On this episode we are joined by Zack Gianino who is the head of the "Fed Up With Fletcher" PAC to discuss all about who is Nathan Fletcher. Nathan Fletcher is a San Diego County Supervisor and just recently announced his run for State Senate. We discuss his background and his actions during the pandemic and why you should pay attention to local politicians as they make their way up the ranks of California politics.
Links Mentioned in the Show
https://www.kusi.com/demaio-calls-on-supervisor-nathan-fletcher-to-resign-after-making-false-and-dangerous-smears/
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/controversial-sd-county-supervisor-nathan-fletcher-announces-run-for-state-senate-in-2024/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GUupZzHr2Q
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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of the California underground podcast tonight.
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We have a show dedicated to our one of our favorite politicians
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in California. If not here, in San Diego.
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I've talked about him a lot, but we've never dedicated an entire
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show all to him, so Nathan, if mr.
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Fletcher, if you're out there listening, congratulations.
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You've made it. You have an entire show just
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about you and tonight, we have We have with us.
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Zach who is the head of the fed up with Fletcher pack?
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Zach, thank you for coming on. I know you've been monitoring
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and keeping an eye on Nathan Fletcher for a while now.
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So thank you for coming on. How are you doing tonight?
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Good good, yeah. Yeah.
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Right. When I thought maybe there would
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be some grace period between having to kind of keep the fire
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underneath him. Maybe that's not a good one but
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or a saying but but yeah well we're here already.
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We're talking about the next election because 10 days after
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he unofficially one. He opened up his exploratory
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committee to look into his 2024 already.
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Decided a position without internet means.
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He's not going to fulfill his obligation to four years.
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So there we are. Yeah, and Camille is always my
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co-host. How are you doing tonight?
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Good, thank you. So, how are you?
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I'm good. I'm ready to talk all about
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Nathan Fletcher. There's a lot to cover.
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He's an interesting character, he's pretty controversial.
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I think his notoriety was definitely Amplified during
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covid because he was the chair of the County Board of
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Supervisors and it gave him an enormous power to kind of make
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calls on covid policy. And whether we are open, whether
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we were closed and vaccine mandates.
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Which we're going to talk all about that in his history with
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that, but I think we should start at the beginning.
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I think we should start with, where did Nathan Fletcher come
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from. And I think it's important to
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kind of look at his background and history to lead up to where
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he, where he is today and who he is today.
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So Zach, do you want to start off with kind of going over a
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little bit of background about Nathan Fletcher?
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Slowly so Nathan, if I have to and I'm going to start this off
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with a compliment, Nathan is actually very skilled at
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managing or attempting to manage His Image and he does this such
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a forceful way constantly. That it almost makes whatever
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happened not relevant because he's constantly warping His
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Image and for good reason. Because if you start looking at
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who he was, it's quite, it makes sense.
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Why you would want to cover up this track record of his, he was
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born. So if people don't know, he was
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not born in San Diego. He was born in Nevada and two
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years. After being born there, his
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family had a big divorce dispute going on in his household and
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this is another place that I actually can find empathy.
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Because in order to understand his erratic narcissistic
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behavior today, kind of got to understand a little bit of his
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upbringing. And what environment could have
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caused his behavior today. So there was custody battles
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with his, his mom and dad is Dad coming to Arkansas and trying to
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get custody and Nathan himself described.
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His childhood is being a living hell with his father around and
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his father being very abusive. So it kind of sets a interesting
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foundation for All of his moves and how he goes about his
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political. Endeavours if you will.
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So you want me to just kind of keep because I have a couple
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points that have just kind of frame is his, you know, his
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upbringing. Yeah.
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Yeah, okay. So after he was in the military,
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which I'm sure everybody knows, he was in the Marines.
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He likes to end especially around election time.
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He loves to remind you that he was served here.
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He did this, he did that. That's not to take away from the
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military. I know I personally work with
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the military. Terry.
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So I am very much in respect and understanding of the sacrifice
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and what they go through. However, when it's constantly
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used in deployed in a way to Garner the veteran Vote or you
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know, look at me, I'm a hard, you know, balanced person and he
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lets, you know, uses it very politically but when he got out
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of the military, he actually was a district.
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He was the district director for Duke Cunningham.
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Now, I don't know if many people here in San Diego.
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Probably maybe not know who Duke Cunningham was or is, but he
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resigned from Congress, in 2005, after pleading guilty, to
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accepting 2.4 million dollars in bribes, and Under reporting
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taxable income. So tax evasion, conspiracy to
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commit bribery mail, fraud, wire fraud, and then served eight
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years in prison. So, of course, when you, when
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asked, when Nathan was asked about this heat, I don't know
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what's going on. I'm that's just.
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And then there may be truth to it, but when you're In an office
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like that it you know, what's going on.
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You know, you have to know what's going on.
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So so he does this. He kind of lays back for a
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little bit by not. I wouldn't say disappearing but
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definitely a little bit of a lower profile to re-emerge kind
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of again like I say with a different image and this image
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was he was going to run for now, Phil help me out here on the
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timeline. So it was here and Our mayor of
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San Diego County, or San Diego city of San Diego.
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First first as a Republican, and I think this was after actually
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his State Assembly tenure as a republican.
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Yeah. Okay.
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So you do is assemblymember as a Republican and then when his
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term was up, he then tried running for mayor as Republican,
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didn't get the Republican nomination and / Nathan's Savior
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threw a temper tantrum and decided it was more.
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Beneficial to do a couple things.
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One internally with his family and then to change your
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political party, right? Because that's the quickest way
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to try and pivot. So he changes his political
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party to Independent runs this whole, I'm an independent
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campaign, I'm different. I'm not this, I'm not sad.
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I'm not out of us. Well, that doesn't pan out well
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loses, that election as well. So then he gets a job.
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So that's 2011. Republican Party. 12 Independent
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party. And in that time period, he gets
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a job at Qualcomm. I'm sure a lot of people know
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what Qualcomm is the founder of Qualcomm is name, is Irwin
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Jacobs. He's probably see his name on a
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lot of buildings especially over at UCSD.
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He's actually Nathan Fletcher's Mentor.
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So, the reason that's important is because again, this Saga is
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all connected, all the moves are connected by the affiliations
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and associations on his whole up.
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His is Rise if you will. So Irwin Jacobs actually funded
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Nathan's campaigns in the past. He offered him with zero
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experience. The jobs in the stuff that he
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was going to oversee about a 200 to its disputed, Nathan disputed
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it, but it's a two hundred to four hundred thousand dollar
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job. Just like that.
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Here you go kind of a cushion job, got him set up.
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He stayed doing that for this year's maybe six, but it's 2013
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and I'm getting somewhere in 2013.
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He all of a sudden becomes appointed as the first Professor
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of practice at UCSD. So like the man who Irwin Jacobs
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has donated 300 million dollars to UCSB over his life.
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All of a sudden, Nathan gets a nice.
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Another Christian job at UCSD where he can now, teach
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political science as a Democrat. So it's so it keeps going right?
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So he does this to build this kind of truthfully.
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So I went to UCSD and when I was looking at classes to take, I
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saw Nathan as a professor. I specifically decided to avoid
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taking one of his courses because I knew I wasn't going to
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Learn how the system works, rather learn how to be like
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Nathan. And I thought you much of that
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already at UCSD and I just knew Nathan's, you know, tries to be
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tries to sugarcoat it, but I mean, I can see through it.
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A lot of people can see through it and I just would not going to
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sit in his class although now that I think back it might have
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been a good idea to hold him accountable back then, but it
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might have been fun to actually just sit in and hear how his
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classes went. Missed opportunity.
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Yeah absolutely. Now that I think about it it
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could have been quite a quite a class.
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I'm trying to match on the homework that Professor Nathan
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Fletcher, would probably a sign. It probably be like.
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So here's this article, I wrote and here's a little about me and
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here's what I did in the past now, but come back and write a
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two-page essay on me as a marine.
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Why I'm a great go. Exactly.
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Exactly military. History of if Nathan Fletcher.
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Yep. Where did I serve when did I
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serve? How did I see all about me?
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So and then and then you fast forward a little bit 2018.
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He then again, that there's a couple of years of this rebuild
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from being a professor boom, he's on the scene again.
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Running as a Democrat for the supervisor position which is a
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very high level position in the county and to lose two mayoral
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runs and then go straight to County.
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Leadership was Well interesting, when you know, the connections
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of his his who's in his Circle, right?
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So ran in 2018, he won the position for district for and
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his term was up in 20, or his dad.
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His term was up in 2022. 20:22 happens, unfortunately, wins
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re-election. And then ten days later, opens
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up. Like I said earlier, he opens up
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his exploration committee into Toni Atkins term.
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Doubt seat in 2024 for state senate.
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I mean, I, it makes me speechless because I think the
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audacity of somebody to actively be so uncommitted to your
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community, but it's this is practiced.
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This is believe it or not, he's being coached on these types of
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Maneuvers. And this is the window.
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This is when you do it, right? And then four months prior, make
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sure you hang out with Lorena at the Union's, the state unions.
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Keep going to be State functions.
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Maybe reshare a State Assembly member.
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I mean, it's all. It's all like, it's all
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personal. And I think it's very Elementary
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Consulting that he's getting but it's it's very predictable and
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it you just see that it's constantly trying to strive for
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you know his men are so many terms is Overlord.
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Gavin Newsom you Shalini. So his whole goal I think is to
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be governor and probably president and he's got Lorena
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sitting in the in the union side.
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Funneling money and bringing in state union actors to funnel
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into his campaign and it's already begun.
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If you look at some of the transcripts, you can already
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see. And, you know, it didn't take
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long for me to jot down and where they're coming from, you
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know, it they're all industry leaders here in San Diego.
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And I mean, CEOs of of partnership, CEOs of real estate
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agencies, CEO of the San Diego Opera very Individuals that are
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given 10K, 10K, 10K. And just from these six people
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that's over, 60 dollars. And I think today up-to-date
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he's over a million dollars already raised for this
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election. Yeah, that's kind of a sort of
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his career in a nutshell. Yeah and I didn't get back drop
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and we didn't really touch upon even more of like the personal
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stuff which I found pretty interesting.
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And Camille also looked into it as well as that he was
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previously married. His previous wife, Mindy,
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correct, Andy Fletcher. Yes, was a high-ranking.
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No relation to Tucker Carlson was a high-ranking George w--
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Bush Aid. So you go from, I think this
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sort of goes to what you're saying about how calculated some
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of his moves are and I don't even You know, I don't want to
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say the First with certainty, it's my opinion.
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That it appears even based on who he married were calculated
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moves to in terms of how he could get political power.
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So, he went from my wife was a high-ranking, George W, bush
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Aid, that didn't work out, it ran into dead ends with the
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Republicans they didn't want to back him for mayor.
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He threw a temper tantrum in a hissy fit, became a Democrat.
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Oh look, who's a Democrat, who is very powerful and has Her
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hands on a lot of levers in Sacramento Lorena Gonzalez.
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And she also has a lot of connections to the unions and
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unions. Love to donate noodles and
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Oodles of money to Democrat politicians.
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So it's kind of the the track record like you're saying.
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The pattern seems to be. He knows he's calculating every
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single move that he does. Like every move leads to
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something else. It's not.
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I'm just doing this because I want to serve my community.
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It's very Very transparent in the fact that you can see,
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everything he does is to do something else.
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And like you said, and I when I was Pro mowing, this specific
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podcast. These are all moves.
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He went from County Supervisor. Now he got that.
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Now he's doing State Senate his next move after State.
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Senate is either going to come back and be mayor of San Diego
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or run for governor of California.
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So, he's got a path of what he's upward trajectory.
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Would you agree with that? Structures and governance can
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see, not just his moves, but the moves of others around him,
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right? Because it's Nathan, can't take
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on a position, without that position, going bacon, or that
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position being, you know, endorse to him.
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And so deals happen. Behind closed doors, where, you
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know, I'll move all run for this show endorse you I'll run there,
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you know? And that's how these Actually
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happen. It's not a conspiracy.
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This is consult. This is why people get paid
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250 for a consulting firm and it's basically, this is what
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they're telling them. They're telling them coordinated
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efforts and at least you you'd want them to seem genuine like,
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oh, you know, I've done all this and we can, you know, and try to
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try to connect it, but it's not, it's very cut and dry.
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It's I'm done with this, like, literally as the election for
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was over. And he won four more years.
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The first campaign he released was we changed San Diego.
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Hashtag, we change San Diego and it was him, excuse my circle,
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jerking around. Basically, you know, every photo
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he took grandstanding. He did all the half-assed.
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Half-baked projects that didn't go anywhere or didn't fully get
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you know followed through but damn it.
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A good picture. Damn they made a nice video.
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No, yeah you got to go on the news and and and rant about it.
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But you why do we still have the same problems?
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Why are the same Advocates coming back over?
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And over saying, nothing's getting done, we need more
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assistance. It's because Nathan doesn't
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actually care about these things seeing them through because he
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wants to just kind of 0, which is mostly the staff doing the
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work. If again you want to know how
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things actually work. The staff does all the work he
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comes in. Oh, I did this.
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I did this and I'm doing it for this.
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It's like it's Disgusting but it's very evident that it's all
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like you said all coordinated calculated and really cold cold,
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hearted cold-shouldered dismissive.
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You know, I've, you know, Lorena has accused me of being a lot of
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things actually, but one of the things, his wife is accused me
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of being is obsessed with Nathan, which I'm obsessed with
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the idea that he embodies everything, I studied to oppose,
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right? He embodies all of the negative
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things. I learned to look out for my
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political thinkers throughout history, like Machiavelli,
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literally explains, who Nathan Fletcher is to the T.
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And so when I see that, I can't help but be fascinated and help,
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not help, but get such a energy to go after the behavior of that
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office, you know? And I it I try to keep it
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positional but when someone is so overtly In, you know, kind of
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so many terms, I could use but when you insult, the can your
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constituents so carelessly. So frivolously you don't you?
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No no no empathy for people going through things.
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You may not be going to. I mean it's It makes, it, it
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makes, He makes himself an easy target for someone like me who
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went to school for political science, who went to, you know,
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who's in this world in these trenches.
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It makes it, he gives us content.
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And that's why there's a whole podcast right now designed to
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talk about him. There's, there's too much, like,
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it's crazy and that's why he's able to continue to confuse and
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mislead people because you got there's a lot to keep up.
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There's a Of research and polling papers, and reading
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documents and looking at finances.
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There's a lot that goes into it. It's not just wake up in the
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morning, make a meme and shitpost, you know, it's, it's
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yeah, people will send me funny memes and I'll post them but
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read the descriptions read the, you know, I articulate the
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concerns. I explain the connections and
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and that's what I think something like.
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This is so important especially now that he's going to the
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state, a state level position. More eyes are going to be coming
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in for the first time. Who's Nathan?
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Oh, you look like a nice Charming.
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Well-spoken, you know, person and I'm doing a little the hand.
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Yeah. The all that good.
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See whether yeah, he and Gamma Nu someone to the Obamas, they
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both do the finger thing. So it's pretty interesting.
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Mannerisms are eerily similar. Yeah.
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It's like they all kind of just sat down and took a class on.
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I mean, and don't get me wrong, Obama was a great public speaker
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and that's probably why everybody Makes them but Nathan
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Fletcher is no, President Obama, I think it's important after.
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We've now, given the background that if people have no idea who
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the heck, we're talking about, I think we should show his State
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Senate announcement. We can show couple other videos
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if we want, we can show the Nathan Fletcher announcing state
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for state senate, which is why we're sitting here doing this
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entire show dedicated to him. I don't know how many other
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podcast What's that you gave him Justice with the picture you
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used for the front for this thing.
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Because yeah, I try to find one that wasn't, I don't know, it's
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hard. I was trying to find a good one
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but I don't know because he looks old way different than the
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the one we use for the podcast. It's about today's a lot.
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Like in the last few years he's aged.
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I think kopecks a little bit of a number of a little credit for
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that too. Yeah.
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Yeah, maybe all this. I was laughing because I was
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like, I get Zach. I have also been accused of
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being obsessed with the candidate because I like to go
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full on research and so, I was like, I appreciate, I appreciate
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this papers. You were waving.
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Yeah, so this is this is from his Twitter and that picture,
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can I just talk about this picture in?
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This is really getting kind of petty that picture of like him
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and his winter gear? I don't know.
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It just ticks me off, is he trying to look tough?
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Is he trying to like I don't know what you're trying to do in
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this picture. Sporty?
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Yeah. Outdoors right.
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Well like you said he does like to be locked, everybody in their
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houses. Yeah.
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He was a big fan of that and like you said he does like to
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bring out the whole thing about Marines whenever it's time and
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he can use it to his political benefit.
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But I also learned, he was a reservist like he wasn't like a
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full-time Marine. He did go on a tour so he did,
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it was like 2004. He won't order to tours, so I
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won't take that away from him. Obviously going over to war is
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not enjoyable, but he was a reservist.
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So let's watch his State Senate announcement, which everybody in
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the political. No saw coming.
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Anyway, so Oh, and a really important lesson, early in my
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time, in the Marine we were at our cold weather, survival
00:22:32
school, high in the mountains freezing, temperature constant
00:22:35
snow only cold food and then one day, what appeared to be a large
00:22:39
Ambiance? No trees started making its way
00:22:42
up the mountain tortious word spread quickly, that they were
00:22:45
bringing hot food. Our Spirits support, but there
00:22:49
was only one truck and there was no way.
00:22:51
There would be enough food for everyone there.
00:22:53
The word went out to get in line to eat by Rank and my spirits
00:22:58
Plumbing has the lowest ranking enlisted Marine there.
00:23:00
I knew they'd run out of food before I had a turning line but
00:23:04
to my surprise, I was directed to the front.
00:23:08
You see in the United States, Marine Corps, when you get
00:23:10
online via by ranked the lowest ranking, Marines, he first the
00:23:13
officers he last we take care of those were responsible for the
00:23:18
hardest. Working individuals are
00:23:19
recognized and perform. I'm running for the California
00:23:24
state senate to break that same approach.
00:23:26
That same leadership lesson, the Marine Corps taught me.
00:23:29
The state government to make sure we're looking out for the
00:23:31
hardest working members of our society.
00:23:34
First? I hope you'll join me.
00:23:37
I want to know what who said, it was a good idea to record on an
00:23:42
iPhone in your backyard because it's not like, he'd they don't
00:23:47
have money to in his campaign to record a professional video, but
00:23:52
I guess. One of his Consultants thought.
00:23:54
Hey, might be a good idea if you just record this on your deck
00:23:58
and they'll look, you'll be more relatable.
00:24:01
If you're sitting there and you're gonna watch shirt.
00:24:03
Yeah, exactly. So initial thoughts of everybody
00:24:09
about his message, but do you think do you think he really
00:24:12
abides by that whole thing of like the hardest working members
00:24:14
of society? Is who we serve first?
00:24:18
Do you think that's kind of in line with how he treated rushed
00:24:22
Workers and medical staff during the pandemic.
00:24:26
Do you think that's in line with the hardest working members of
00:24:28
society? Who eat demonized during that
00:24:31
time? No. 90% of that was literally
00:24:39
90% of that was I'm a marine I was freezing, but I was out
00:24:43
there. I and then 10% was like and that
00:24:47
is why I am running for Senate. Like I don't even what's his,
00:24:53
what's his message? I understand.
00:24:54
I'm not in his district but if I were, what does he do for me?
00:24:57
But he going to like, why do I want him to represent me?
00:25:01
Because he once was in the freezing cold, okay?
00:25:04
Because he's a Marine. Yes, he's a Marine and he has
00:25:07
this great story and he wears a denim shirt.
00:25:11
Let's, let's kind of back up a little bit and talk about that
00:25:15
kind of what I just said about how he treated people during the
00:25:18
pandemic. I think, the way he treated
00:25:21
people during the pandemic, now he wasn't chair the whole time
00:25:24
because it was Greg Cox and then it flipped over to him.
00:25:28
And then he became chair of the County Board of Supervisors.
00:25:33
He's sort of ruled with an iron fist during that time and
00:25:36
basically mimicked, whatever Newsome did in terms of trying
00:25:40
to lock people down, shutting down restaurants, one part.
00:25:43
I found was very interesting was Hugh is very much ahead of all
00:25:48
we want to lock everybody down, shut down your businesses.
00:25:50
We can't open, everybody has to stay home.
00:25:54
But then like, there was that one brief period where we try to
00:25:57
reopen in San Diego and somehow he wiggled his way into a
00:26:02
promotional commercial of everyone come back to the
00:26:06
Gaslamp because it's open which I thought was hilarious.
00:26:09
That the guy who forced all these restaurants on Fifth
00:26:13
Avenue to lock down and shut down.
00:26:15
He was now all of a sudden promoting like, hey guys, we did
00:26:18
it. Thanks to me, Nathan, Fletcher,
00:26:21
and come back down to Gaslamp. So Zach, why don't you tell us a
00:26:25
little bit about Nathan Fletcher around the time of pandemic
00:26:30
because I think, That's when everybody starts to figure out
00:26:32
who he was because nobody knew what a County Supervisor was
00:26:35
prior to covid. So yeah, you sleep late, it out
00:26:43
very well because he was kind of, you know, in the Shadows on
00:26:47
the board and it wasn't until covid where he went above and
00:26:51
beyond to take the microphone to be the one to threaten the
00:26:54
beach, goers to tell you what you couldn't couldn't do to send
00:26:59
the sheriff's to threaten business owners and try to, you
00:27:04
know, season this cease and desist.
00:27:07
Orders. So at the time actually, I was
00:27:11
living in Pacific Beach when all of this happened and I was
00:27:18
enjoying going to the beach because I lived on Garnett, it
00:27:21
was right there. I was enjoying getting exercise
00:27:22
and being out and being active. And so I was kind of pissed off
00:27:25
that, you know, these rules which one didn't make any sense
00:27:29
to me, but the way they were being enforced, I had to see it
00:27:32
for myself. So I would go to the beach and
00:27:35
see, you know, you can sit here Here, but 20 feet over there is,
00:27:40
is red tape or yellow tape. And then another 10 20 feet, you
00:27:45
can sit and it just it made zero sense.
00:27:47
You had police chasing people on beaches with their, you know,
00:27:50
their their Cruisers. Take me, a fulfilling the orders
00:27:54
of these help these Health orders.
00:27:57
And he, I think, And again, this gets into like psychology and
00:28:05
sociology because in order for somebody to have the audacity
00:28:09
not just the audacity but to have the authority to declare
00:28:14
what he declared in this country.
00:28:17
It had to be during a tragic event or something that could be
00:28:21
really, really harped on his being at like a doomsday
00:28:25
situation. Forget everything we stand for
00:28:28
or, you know, forget the boundaries we don't ever cross,
00:28:31
it doesn't matter anymore. And This is what you're going to
00:28:33
do and you're going to obey and there's videos and I'm sure.
00:28:37
I mean you can play one but there's videos out there of him
00:28:40
just like looks like he is our father and I don't know about
00:28:45
you but I don't nobody talk to me, especially Vishal like that
00:28:50
because that that sets the relationship and if the
00:28:53
relationship is that I you know I am your your kid.
00:28:57
Then you look at yourself as the parent and I don't like that
00:29:00
relationship between myself and an elected official that I pay
00:29:03
their salary. Yeah, it doesn't.
00:29:05
I don't kids don't pay their child salaries but in this
00:29:08
situation we are even. So he Yeah, I mean I mean
00:29:17
there's a lot it's there's a lot that Nathan gained during the
00:29:21
beginning because there was such, you know confusion it was
00:29:24
one thing after another and then all of a sudden the streets are
00:29:27
quiet. Businesses are, shut down.
00:29:29
And you think people are just going to naturally stay quiet to
00:29:32
that and just kind of, oh, well, you know, there's just my
00:29:35
business, you know, supplying food for my family and keeping a
00:29:40
roof, over my head, whatever know, these parents, these
00:29:44
doctors these Physicians. Actions these police officers
00:29:47
these teachers, the I mean I could go on and on and on and on
00:29:50
all started to show up at the city at these County board
00:29:54
meetings and that's where things started to really heat up for
00:29:59
Fletcher because keep couldn't, he was protected behind that
00:30:03
Podium and the News cameras for like a year and you know, there
00:30:08
was no in person meetings, there was nothing going on.
00:30:10
He could just Lecture us order us to stay in and go to sleep
00:30:16
and or or go to Big Bear for a vacation while we're all locked
00:30:19
in our houses here, which he did it.
00:30:25
He used all that momentum. And I'm kind of my train of
00:30:31
thought. Oh yeah.
00:30:33
So and then everybody starts coming to these meetings and now
00:30:35
he's got nowhere to go. And so what do you do when
00:30:38
you've got nowhere to go? And you have to respond to your
00:30:41
constituents Your neighbors that are there to grieve.
00:30:46
You label them a Nazi. You label them, conspiracy
00:30:49
theorist, you label them crazy, you label them.
00:30:51
Right wing, the label that things are all terms.
00:30:53
He used, you demonize this group of people, no matter how much,
00:30:57
and how many of there are, you demonize them to such a level
00:31:01
that anybody on looking a new Watchers are going to either do
00:31:05
two, things are going to say, oh yeah, it's crazy conspiracy
00:31:07
theorist or Going to listen to them, and they're just going to
00:31:12
believe what Nathan says. So it just dust it.
00:31:15
Dismisses, the real struggle, that people went through, and I
00:31:23
guess, and I'm a sinner. It's not a funny laugh.
00:31:26
It's more being on the side of talking to business owners and
00:31:30
listening to people who were like, don't eat didn't even know
00:31:34
who Nathan was, but are asking like me or other people?
00:31:36
Like, why doesn't this man care about, like our situations?
00:31:41
And, you know, like, and I'll never forget one person said it
00:31:44
in such a sincere, heart broken tone.
00:31:49
And and it just, I think that pissed me off more because
00:31:55
Nathan wasn't being, is not being a good leader.
00:31:57
He's not, he's not taking in the concerns of everybody.
00:32:00
He's got his view rather of your suffering, he's got a view and
00:32:04
he's sticking to it. And, and I got really, I guess
00:32:08
personally invested in going after Nathan.
00:32:11
During covid-19 because and I'm at Liberty, to share, this is
00:32:18
I've gotten permission. My mom actually was took a flu
00:32:24
vaccine and the flu vaccine paralyzed her from the waist
00:32:28
down and gave her GBS, right? Which is a nervous nervous and
00:32:34
everlasting nervous system like disease.
00:32:37
Well, during that time, my mom. Obviously, she's rushed to the
00:32:42
hospital, she's she's in and, you know, intensive care,
00:32:45
they're studying their do all these studies UCSD determines
00:32:49
that it was the flu vaccine that caused this reaction in my mom
00:32:53
system and and paralyzed her. Luckily, and thankfully, she's
00:32:58
gotten back to, you know, she's rehab doorway into Mobility, but
00:33:02
there was several months during all of this chaos, where I
00:33:04
thought I was going to lose my mom because you can die from
00:33:08
these types of failures to your internal system.
00:33:11
And UCSD Publishers and over my wallet is I have the documents.
00:33:17
They gave a published document to my mom stating because of
00:33:22
this reaction to from the flu vaccine.
00:33:25
It's advised, you stay away from the covid-19 vaccine due to
00:33:28
similar components in the vaccines and to hear that to
00:33:34
have it in documentation. And then to look at my County
00:33:38
board supervisor who's actually relying on UCSD Medical experts
00:33:42
to give him direction are saying the complete opposite.
00:33:46
They're saying that stories like that are misinformation or
00:33:50
disinformation or, you know, oh, it's just a, you know, it's just
00:33:53
a, it's so rare. And, you know, my mom being the
00:33:57
person, she was, she was finding people also going through this
00:34:01
situation and connecting me with them.
00:34:03
And then I'm like, wait a minute, there's a bigger story
00:34:05
happening. That's being suppressed here
00:34:07
because one I have a direct connection to not just not it
00:34:11
and it wasn't the covid vaccine, right?
00:34:12
But the reactions to to a vaccine in general I was
00:34:18
firsthand experiencing and then hearing my supervisor say 99% of
00:34:23
fit you know all you do just quoting things, we know aren't
00:34:26
true, we know our debunked, we know is just BS that were given.
00:34:30
Boom boom boom boom. And he just spews it and so
00:34:34
hearing him talk about people like my mom in situations that
00:34:39
she was in as being Not important that lit.
00:34:43
A fire underneath me even more because I wasn't going to let
00:34:46
him continue to speak in the way.
00:34:49
He was speaking about the people, he was speaking about
00:34:51
when I watched what I just watched happen.
00:34:53
And so that I that truly, and then that on top of 15 hours, 15
00:35:03
hours of public comment, that's, that's unheard of at a County
00:35:08
board meeting. If you ever went to, a County
00:35:09
board meeting prior to covid, you'd probably be the only
00:35:12
person in there and I'm not even joking.
00:35:15
I was one of the Nerds that would go to those things, right?
00:35:17
So this this whole packed house packed, house alone was not a
00:35:22
thing. Let alone people out.
00:35:25
The door is wrapping the building and rallying outside
00:35:29
all at the same time, thousands of people coming in to support
00:35:33
and to speak in opposition to declaring covid-19 o
00:35:38
misinformation a Public Health crisis.
00:35:41
And we're going to have these czars decide what's right?
00:35:44
And what's not right and all that rubbish not to see him take
00:35:49
15 hours of grueling heartbreaking intensive public
00:35:57
comment and again knowing how boards work, right?
00:36:01
You can table items, you can amend them, you can revisit
00:36:03
them, you can. You can even depending on the
00:36:06
item you can alter it on the spot.
00:36:10
After that 15-hour meeting, he's like, all right, we're going to
00:36:14
vote. Not just I mean and we know he
00:36:18
gets on social media during the meetings and he's distracted and
00:36:21
not actually present. So, you know, there's that.
00:36:24
But you, you know, ethically and morally.
00:36:28
How do you sleep at night when you have people crying who have
00:36:31
never been to a meeting ever in their life because of the chaos
00:36:35
you're creating on the streets liquor, literally and
00:36:37
figuratively. And See him respond in this just
00:36:43
like I don't give about any of this.
00:36:46
I'm just going to push my agenda, as I've been told to
00:36:50
push and carry on that to me was where That's that next day, I
00:36:56
opened up fed up with Fletcher, that's when that it started.
00:36:59
That was the straw that I was like, enough enough.
00:37:02
I'm to I'm invested without being as impactful as I could
00:37:06
be, and fed up with Fletcher, was a vehicle that I could at
00:37:11
least bring awareness to, and, and kind of Trent, you know, you
00:37:17
see Memes or it's like, they say this and is like translation,
00:37:21
That's how I kind of felt fed up with Fletcher, was with
00:37:23
everything he did, because it was like, this is what he's
00:37:26
saying, but this is actually what he means because this is
00:37:28
actually what he did right there saying stuff and doing things
00:37:32
and, you know, they're on different pages.
00:37:35
So that's kind of at least kind of going into, we're better.
00:37:41
But Fletcher was birthed from. And the reason for this like
00:37:44
enough is enough, like, we're not, we're not done with
00:37:47
Fletcher. We're not, you know, where we
00:37:49
disagree with like, You know, we're fed up because Fletcher,
00:37:52
embodies not just who he is personally, but an attitude and
00:37:56
a behavior from elected officials.
00:37:58
We need to put an absolute stop to because if we don't, it only
00:38:02
gets worse, it only gets more bullying.
00:38:04
It only gets more slanderous. It only gets more more conniving
00:38:08
and we know Nathan is very conniving and very sneaky
00:38:12
because people who were supporting fed up with Fletcher,
00:38:16
actively told me, They worked with Fletcher or around him and
00:38:21
couldn't come public or join me on Fed Up series because they're
00:38:25
afraid of retaliation on their job because that's when Nathan
00:38:28
was, he would call donors. If he saw you donate to an
00:38:31
opposition, he calls employers, if he sees you speaking out
00:38:34
against like, this is the type of stuff he does.
00:38:37
And that to me is, again, he's trying to control the narrative
00:38:42
as much as he can and fed up with Fletcher, was a kind of a
00:38:47
catchy phrase. Way of trying to break challenge
00:38:50
The Branding of Nathan here in San Diego where he had to
00:38:54
Grapple with. You're not a saint Nathan you
00:38:58
know. And I think we're doing that.
00:39:00
I mean we were not successful, the throwing him but I think
00:39:06
we've generated a hub of a One-Stop shop.
00:39:11
Where at any point you can go down and look at what he has
00:39:15
said because we use direct quotes.
00:39:18
You can see What he is talked about, we have direct videos and
00:39:22
my biggest part of doing all, this was to give it a One-Stop
00:39:26
shop because Nathan likes to and move things out of the way.
00:39:30
And so that was the goal of trying to on this not fed up
00:39:36
with the County Board. It's not fed up with government
00:39:38
not fed up with pot, sped up with Fletcher and I think that
00:39:42
again, that's why we're having this podcast is so important
00:39:45
because he's not just a typical Joe Schmo running for office,
00:39:49
and it's like like know why would we spend this much time
00:39:52
and energy on somebody who's trying to improve their help,
00:39:55
the community, democrat or republican?
00:39:57
No, right. There's more to who he is and
00:40:02
not even getting into WikiLeaks. Is that's a whole rabbit hole
00:40:06
that again. People will dismiss as being a
00:40:09
conspiracy but you can look at it yourself and look at the
00:40:14
email exchanges between him and John podesta discussing Lorena
00:40:19
Gonzalez, and how basically, and then there's no other way of
00:40:22
saying he was pimping. Her out and trying to pimp
00:40:25
himself out to the Hillary campaign and upper Democratic
00:40:29
Leadership at a time where he was kind of getting shit on my
00:40:32
local San Diego and community. Yeah, so it's like you gotta
00:40:36
connect all these little things back to what we start.
00:40:39
We, when we started to see why somebody like Nathan deserves
00:40:43
and has earned this type of opposition in this type of
00:40:46
focus. So yeah, yeah, kind of just
00:40:51
ranting now. So I know it's that's why I
00:40:53
like, I kind of took it all the way to how you started fed up
00:40:57
with Fletcher. I didn't even have to ask the
00:40:59
question. You just kind of prompted.
00:41:01
The the answer, here's a couple videos.
00:41:05
You were talking about like, how Fletcher and Loreena both are,
00:41:11
and I've called them this before, they're the biggest
00:41:13
bullies, in San Diego, politics, Loreena, I think more so than
00:41:17
Nathan, I think Lorraine is definitely more of a bully from
00:41:22
what I see, she's just not a pleasant woman, she's blocked me
00:41:25
on Twitter which is I take that. Yeah, I take that I take that
00:41:30
with pride, that Lorena Gonzalez block me.
00:41:32
So I don't I don't see her tweets anymore.
00:41:36
But you're right that they do they speak out of both sides of
00:41:40
their mouth and it wasn't it was just a couple weeks ago that
00:41:44
Nathan Fletcher, gave his acceptance speech for his second
00:41:47
term of County supervisor and his whole speech was about unity
00:41:52
and let's come together and these past couple of years have
00:41:55
been really rough on us. So I hope that we can we can
00:41:58
start to work together and and then all of a sudden he's back
00:42:02
on Twitter like name-calling. When people and calling
00:42:06
opposition or Republicans, he doesn't agree with.
00:42:08
And then you're like. Did you just literally give a
00:42:11
speech about unity and you're out here again being divisive?
00:42:17
There's this video where he's always use Unity.
00:42:22
It's not like Unity is just like just their puzzle word.
00:42:25
I'm here for Unity. I'm not even know what that
00:42:27
means but I'm just going to throw it out there because
00:42:29
someone once said it it's like biting the other night and his
00:42:32
State of the Union talked about Unity.
00:42:35
And we have to work through this together and then immediately
00:42:37
afterwards, he's like bashing some Republicans or something
00:42:40
like that, so you're too. Yeah, let's see.
00:42:45
I'm going to pull up this one because this was one.
00:42:48
He did to D to do. Here we go.
00:42:53
This is one. We had a fancy little press
00:42:55
conference with all the medical experts, so but poor
00:43:06
decision-making driven by politics is impacting our
00:43:10
ability to respond. I desperately fought time and
00:43:14
again to avoid the situation we face today in June.
00:43:21
Call for Unity being sent across San Diego County by local
00:43:24
leaders and medical experts. In the ongoing fight against the
00:43:27
coronavirus, good afternoon, and thank you so much for watching.
00:43:29
I'm Heather Myers and I'm sell Escobedo saw me amid the recent
00:43:32
vision and disagreement there, reminding San diegoans to stay
00:43:36
together to stay safe to stop the spread and prevent more
00:43:39
restrictions snooze. 87 Irani is tracking it.
00:43:42
Horace is a building with what one County Supervisor is saying.
00:43:48
Good afternoon that media conference was up about 30
00:43:51
minutes ago, with supervisor, Nathan Fletcher, and several
00:43:54
leaders within the Health Community and their ideas were
00:43:58
similar to those of Jim Desmond where they've been going back
00:44:02
and forth, Desmond and Fletcher, both saying that they're here
00:44:06
completely to support businesses and to help them along the way.
00:44:09
But with very different approaches Fletcher, supports
00:44:12
the idea of following along with the state's guidelines and
00:44:15
listening to the tiered system, which could potentially We push
00:44:18
us back into a more restrictive tier as of tomorrow.
00:44:21
Whereas Desmond believes that a lot of those businesses should
00:44:24
be going to pause right there just because I must have blocked
00:44:29
out that traumatic memory of the tier system.
00:44:34
I completely forgot about that, we were like constantly going,
00:44:38
are we in the red tear, the orange tear or what what is it?
00:44:44
Mom is it teal like well what are we doing here?
00:44:47
Can I Can I go to a restaurant? Do I have to order doordash like
00:44:51
what's going on here? And I blocked that out.
00:44:55
It's only not that many years ago, but that's what trauma does
00:44:59
you just kind of? Push it out and sweaty State
00:45:03
guidelines are and reopening regardless of those rules.
00:45:06
So take a listen to some of what Nathan Fletcher had to say
00:45:09
today. Contrary to what, some of my
00:45:12
colleagues are telling you. This pandemic was not caused by
00:45:16
the state of California. Contrary to what some of my
00:45:20
colleagues because you're telling you, this pandemic was
00:45:22
not caused by Governor Gavin. Newsom, it isn't the fault of
00:45:27
San Diego State University. And it certainly isn't the fault
00:45:31
of a color-coded metric system. So although some of their ideas
00:45:35
are similar in their support of small businesses, there is a big
00:45:38
difference in how they're going about handling the pandemic,
00:45:42
Fletcher, and Desmond will be a part of a County Board of
00:45:45
Supervisors. Meeting that takes place later
00:45:47
on today, where they're still discussing the Of legal action
00:45:50
against the state. If we move backward into that
00:45:53
more restrictive, tear, that tier one.
00:45:55
They believed that by excluding San Diego State University's
00:45:58
case numbers that we could securely.
00:46:00
Stay firmly in that to your to that we're in right now and not
00:46:03
be a danger of reverting back to Tier 1.
00:46:06
So still no word whether or not a law suit is on the way between
00:46:08
the county and the state that next Board of Supervisors
00:46:11
meeting is today and that small business rally is at 4 p.m.
00:46:15
And then tomorrow we hear from the state on its net sits next.
00:46:19
It's assessment as to whether or not we remain into your to or
00:46:22
move backward into tier one that lady getting her hair done.
00:46:28
Outside of outside is like man guy working out in a mask.
00:46:34
Just I remember working out in a mask and I was like we were just
00:46:38
happy to be back in the gym because Jim's were like I was
00:46:41
working out outside in a parking lot.
00:46:43
At a crunch fishing and it was like winter time.
00:46:46
And like we were bundled, we had like three layers and I It's
00:46:50
horrible but you know trying to be healthy during a pandemic was
00:46:54
not allowed under the tier system and Nathan Fletcher, so
00:47:00
don't try to eat healthy. Yeah, you kind of hear In that
00:47:05
clip. You showed that was his tone and
00:47:08
an attitude. Every time he took the podium
00:47:10
during 98 was yelling at the public.
00:47:13
It was, it was like, it's not our fault.
00:47:16
Get back in your house. We didn't do this.
00:47:19
This. The beach like it's like what
00:47:24
you're saying. Sorry, don't go on.
00:47:27
I just say it's it's what? Yeah.
00:47:30
Never mind. It was.
00:47:32
Go ahead. Do I just want to know what's
00:47:34
with all the people standing behind him?
00:47:36
Who just like, they literally look like, they were just like
00:47:39
plants. Like, like I'm like, sitting
00:47:41
there going. How long did it take them to set
00:47:43
up the scene? You know, we just feel so fake
00:47:45
and calculated to me, okay. You to do a little bit closer,
00:47:48
right spot like that. Okay, wait note like, that's how
00:47:51
it feels to me with the nurses and like the professionals, like
00:47:53
it just seems such a setup if you'd like.
00:47:55
The top ridiculous. Well they were properly socially
00:47:58
distanced plants. If you notice they were all at,
00:48:02
all of them six feet apart. We I think it's actually the
00:48:05
other day. I was like, I was like, where do
00:48:08
they find these people like in the middle of the day?
00:48:10
Like what do they call up random people in the like hey you want
00:48:13
to be the backdrop of a political speech.
00:48:16
Sure come stomping versus yeah. Like these nurses are more than
00:48:23
so but yeah, you can. Until it, you were saying about
00:48:27
his his whole thing about like unity and like we have to work
00:48:30
together and but at the same time, he's he's like lecturing
00:48:35
people and you, I think you said it best, it was like a parent,
00:48:38
lecturing kids like, no, no you can't go out, it's past your
00:48:41
curfew and like, no, no, you haven't done your homework and
00:48:45
you haven't eaten your vegetables.
00:48:46
And we're in the wrong tier, we're in purple tear or whatever
00:48:50
and we can't do that. That's that was his tone all of
00:48:55
Covid-19 and most Democrats to it was mostly they would hide
00:49:01
behind this. Moral argument of moral
00:49:05
superiority of well we're trying to save lives Not discounting or
00:49:12
talking to your grandma Killers. But let's not talk about the
00:49:20
effect of losing your business, economic hardship, suicide
00:49:25
rates, child abuse domestic of it.
00:49:28
Let's not talk about any of that, sort of extremes, a, or
00:49:33
consequential damage, or collateral damage of your
00:49:36
policy. So let's not talk about any of
00:49:37
that stuff. You're just trying to Kill
00:49:39
Grandma. So that was their tone kill
00:49:41
Nathan, Fletcher. He understood the assignment.
00:49:45
When it came down, from Gavin Newsom, and all the Democrats,
00:49:48
he understood, the assignment. Like, this is how I'm going to
00:49:51
talk, and I'm going to lecture and yell at all the people who
00:49:53
are big bad mean he's so can we do an entire episode on covid-19
00:49:59
PTSD because oh my God, that video just triggered me, the
00:50:04
watching, all my stuff. Amazing to me.
00:50:10
Oh my gosh. How much I actually blocked out.
00:50:14
Like seriously, look at lady Gainer haircut outside.
00:50:18
I'm like, what is this lady to, oh my gosh, they had to get
00:50:22
their haircuts outside. Like, you couldn't wait to get
00:50:25
back yard, haircuts. Like my bar rule, like she was
00:50:27
doing backyard haircuts. I mean, but it was pretty cool.
00:50:32
The only cool thing was like a whole Speakeasy culture that
00:50:35
arose in San Diego of like businesses that were In against
00:50:39
it. And like they would just be
00:50:41
like, all word of mouth open, like this restaurants, open
00:50:45
inside. And like there was a really good
00:50:47
sushi restaurant. It's not there anymore, but
00:50:51
they, they had constructed this whole facade in the front.
00:50:58
They had an Asian market and they put up a wall.
00:51:01
And so it looked like you drove by it.
00:51:02
Just looked like a tiny little Asian mini-market, but behind
00:51:06
the wall was a entire sushi restaurant that Nobody could see
00:51:09
driving by. It was.
00:51:12
Excellent Sushi. Did you have to have a password
00:51:16
to get in? Not really one of the owners was
00:51:22
is a fan of the podcast. So she kind of reached out was
00:51:24
like, you should come down and have sushi.
00:51:26
And I was like great. And then everybody, we told was
00:51:28
like, you know, a place where you can eat inside.
00:51:31
And it was like, yeah, let's go. And they were like, but it's
00:51:35
don't tell anybody about it. It's a secret.
00:51:38
So But yeah, my gosh. So obviously there was a lot of
00:51:45
reasons why people wanted to go back to business or not or go
00:51:50
back to doing what they're doing.
00:51:53
Yes I did need a haircut during covid during the shame on you +.
00:51:59
Yeah I mean my I'm sorry I wanted a haircut.
00:52:02
I was not happy with my hair. At the time, I had to literally
00:52:09
smuggle my hairdressers into my places to get haircuts, like, 80
00:52:16
felt like I was doing something so illegal.
00:52:20
Your parents act like, I know, I act like it, just, it just
00:52:28
forget those moments where it's, like, you should.
00:52:31
We we were doing, why? Looks like I got hit in the face
00:52:35
with this Amnesia as well and just kind of like, oh, this is
00:52:39
the way. Because, yeah, they weren't at
00:52:41
this, that the shops they couldn't be.
00:52:43
So it's like, we had to learn how to to survive or stay
00:52:49
productive. I know in a way that felt gross,
00:52:54
which is shouldn't have because it's like, as funny.
00:52:57
Everyone was saying, all this is, this is just the new normal
00:53:00
and I was, I refused to sing a new normal because I was like,
00:53:03
none out this is A temporary blip in history.
00:53:07
This is New. Normal means, this is how it's
00:53:09
going to be forever. Although it sometimes it felt
00:53:12
like that's how it was going to be forever because it just never
00:53:15
ended here in California. But yeah.
00:53:17
The new normal two more towards him going three weeks fake
00:53:23
reopening. Yeah, can I bring it back with
00:53:28
Lester? There was a time where I was
00:53:30
like it was early on in the pandemic.
00:53:32
I know we're getting off topic about like, the pan Making stuff
00:53:35
like that. But just all of this kind of
00:53:36
rolls into like Nathan Fletcher. Yeah, being in control, I was in
00:53:41
a chat room with other lawyers and we were chatting about
00:53:44
something. I was like, I was like, man, I
00:53:47
really wish I could go back to just eating inside, like I miss
00:53:51
going to restaurants and this one other attorney.
00:53:55
So brainwashed just goes. He just went off on me about
00:53:59
like, you would want to go back because you're a right winger.
00:54:03
And you're a A racist and you want to kill minorities and that
00:54:07
I you don't care. It's your white privilege.
00:54:09
I'm like I don't know how you got all that from.
00:54:11
I just want to sit inside a restaurant when I eat and not
00:54:14
outside on the street where it's cold, but that's how brainwashed
00:54:19
people were. And people were listening to
00:54:21
politicians like Nathan Fletcher because they were spewing a lot
00:54:24
of divisive talk during that time while.
00:54:28
Also, at the same time, saying we should all unify and come
00:54:30
together. I do have the video cued up that
00:54:34
got Him in a lot of hot water, where he started to call out.
00:54:37
Basically, every Republican and Trump supporter every name in
00:54:40
the book, should I q-- that one up?
00:54:44
Sure. Alright this is this is a good
00:54:47
one. I'd say.
00:54:51
Do to do to do to relive but educational.
00:54:56
Yeah, you are. Thank you.
00:55:05
Mayor Garcia. It's my privilege to join.
00:55:08
Assemblymember chiu mayor, Gloria civil rights leaders, and
00:55:12
the chair of our Democratic party and joining, can't
00:55:14
California Democrats. It really is unfortunate that in
00:55:19
this day and age. We have to come together.
00:55:21
Either to denounce acts of terrorism against our own
00:55:23
country acts of terrorism, against the will of the American
00:55:28
people who turned out in record numbers to have their voice
00:55:31
heard and have their votes counted at the de combat veteran
00:55:35
of the United States Marine Corps.
00:55:36
I trained to respond to situations like an embassy,
00:55:40
being overrun by enemies of America.
00:55:43
But I never imagined, I would see the day where the Saints
00:55:47
situation would play out with the US Capitol being overrun.
00:55:51
Fight enemies of America. This was a direct attack on our
00:55:55
democracy on free and fair elections in the peaceful
00:55:59
transition of power. In 2016.
00:56:01
I did not like the outcome of the election results and I
00:56:04
accepted them and it motivated me to work harder in 2020.
00:56:09
What we are seeing happen across, our country is inspired
00:56:13
and motivated directly by Donald Trump.
00:56:16
Trump and trumpism pose, an existential threat to our peace.
00:56:21
V democracy. And so I'm joining fellow
00:56:23
Democrats today as we take a stand against right-wing.
00:56:26
Militia groups, against the proud boys, white nationalist.
00:56:29
And everyone who is encouraging violence on our democracy but
00:56:34
these same extremist be same. Trump inspired conspiracy.
00:56:39
Theorists are now seeking to undermine our democracy in
00:56:43
California. They are involved in recall
00:56:46
elections against our governor. Gavin Newsom, the recall efforts
00:56:50
led by proton. Stream of seek to undermine
00:56:53
Democratic process across our state.
00:56:56
There is substantial evidence that those who are leading this
00:56:59
recall effort, our LinkedIn associate with Neo-Nazi with
00:57:02
white supremacist with right-wing militia groups and
00:57:05
cannot stand for this proposal right there because it's just
00:57:12
talk about guy who couldn't be more divisive right there.
00:57:17
Basically, if you don't agree with me, if you voted for Trump
00:57:20
and got it, God, Forbid, you don't like our Lord and savior
00:57:25
his most, holy highness. Gavin Newsom how dare you
00:57:31
question his authority? And start a recall and the fact
00:57:35
that he just loved basically everybody who supported the
00:57:38
recall as neo-nazis white supremacist, right-wingers
00:57:42
right-wing militia and all that stuff.
00:57:45
It was some of the most like, disgusting stuff I ever heard
00:57:49
him say and when I heard him say that, I was like I wasn't
00:57:51
surprised, but also, I was like, you know, this is just the type
00:57:56
of person Nathan Fletcher is, is that he'll, he will drag your
00:58:00
name through the mud and call you every name in the book, if
00:58:05
he doesn't, if you're a political opponent, just like
00:58:08
his wife Lorena Gonzalez. So I don't know how he pretends,
00:58:11
he stands for Unity. Also, if we were playing a
00:58:13
drinking game, we'd probably be a little tipsy by.
00:58:16
Now, if he mentioned every time he was a marine and if we took a
00:58:20
shot every time he mentioned, He was emergency.
00:58:22
So I saw Zack take a sip after the last one.
00:58:24
And I was like, Zach. Also Mama, Zach was already.
00:58:28
He's like, I'm playing my own game.
00:58:31
That made me think we really need to say these things sooner.
00:58:34
We really need to start the podcast with and tonight's
00:58:37
buzzword is, yeah, someone in the chat goes Halal democracy.
00:58:44
Somebody else's was this before. One of his newly District cities
00:58:47
was burned down by his non-violence, Yeah, I mean
00:58:52
excellent point that he likes to kind of gloss over the fact that
00:58:56
there was the 2020 Summer of Love which was supported by
00:58:59
democrats. But any comments before we kind
00:59:04
of continue, we all know what this video.
00:59:06
Yes, I wanted to say. I think again, everything is
00:59:10
calculated and specific. He's read at.
00:59:13
Look at his eyes, use reading off of very thought-out
00:59:19
scripted. Agenda.
00:59:22
And he says it caught my mind. He says our governor that would
00:59:27
oppose our governor, the governor, or a governor.
00:59:32
Like that language, right there, that does something to people
00:59:35
when listening. It's, you know, it's us for its
00:59:38
then it's the basic, you know, divide-and-conquer rhetoric.
00:59:41
But it's just the way he pivots and makes it's not just
00:59:46
disagreements. It's you're An Enemy of the
00:59:49
State. Bye. like you're, you're you're
00:59:54
Trying to undermine. When funny enough it's him who's
01:00:00
actually undermining the process by funneling money and you know
01:00:05
yeah so on and so forth. So I just thought is very worth
01:00:08
pointing out, it's you know, our governor like oh our beloved
01:00:12
Governor versus the governor and and another one last thing.
01:00:18
When I was going door to door talking to people, for the
01:00:21
primaries to go against Nathan, I can.
01:00:25
It's worth noting because of how many people I spoke to that were
01:00:29
Hispanic citizens here and said, when he called me a Nazi for
01:00:34
voting against Gavin, I said in, it was that was the thing that
01:00:38
pissed off people who were not white, that had a problem with
01:00:42
Gavin, which new / there was a lot of them.
01:00:45
And so that, it's just, It's either tone deaf or he knows how
01:00:50
he's being, you know, insightful hmm Camille, any thoughts before
01:00:56
we continue on? Yes, please back to being
01:01:03
triggered. I'm not really triggered.
01:01:04
But this whole you know, people who didn't want the vaccine
01:01:07
better conspiracy theorist. So I have been a parent for over
01:01:11
17 years and fill as you know, I love to research and all that.
01:01:16
Like The second I found out I was pregnant.
01:01:18
I was basically like, okay but you know what it how am I going
01:01:22
to like, what's good for kids, what's not?
01:01:25
And I like facts, I am not a conspiracy theorist.
01:01:28
I don't tend to get emotional over issues.
01:01:31
I just like, give me the facts and then I'll respond.
01:01:33
And so I did my own research and chose to delay and not get
01:01:38
certain vaccines for my kids because I felt like I was making
01:01:43
the right decision for them based on what I read.
01:01:46
Almost 18 years ago when I found out, I was pregnant, you know?
01:01:49
And so the of course that was pre way before Trump pray before
01:01:54
covid. So, I just like researched and
01:01:57
facts that does not make me a conspiracy theorist.
01:01:59
If I choose to not vaccinate certain vaccines, or any or
01:02:03
myself or my kids, that just makes me someone who's making
01:02:06
decisions that are best for myself.
01:02:08
So, I get very annoyed when, you know, you guys are just
01:02:11
conspiracy like know. I've always been like that, I
01:02:13
vote just that's just You know, again pre Trump regarding Nathan
01:02:18
Fletcher real quick because there are people who obviously
01:02:20
agree with the lockdown because he got re-elected.
01:02:23
There are insane people who believe with this, you know,
01:02:26
tyrannical leadership. But on that note he cannot be
01:02:30
trusted. He is a liar.
01:02:32
He needs a flip-flopper. So I just want to touch on that
01:02:35
for a second because even in May of 2014 after he had her 2013
01:02:39
after he had switched from Republican to independent and
01:02:42
then to Democrat, he put out this whole nicely.
01:02:45
Worded email. And then he shared it on his
01:02:46
Facebook post. May of 2013 where he's like, I
01:02:49
have no plans to run for office. I don't know that I ever will.
01:02:53
I just want to let you all know that.
01:02:54
I'm now registered Democrat less than four months later.
01:02:57
He was running for mayor of San Diego so he already knew he I
01:03:00
mean he had to have known he wanted like he jumped on that
01:03:03
right away. So already this man cannot be
01:03:05
trusted, okay? And he has switched parties so
01:03:07
many times. So how can you even know what
01:03:10
he's going to do? If he would he does because he's
01:03:13
ultimately going to win the Senate position.
01:03:15
So we know that's not applicable.
01:03:16
See, he's got it. So when he wins this, who knows
01:03:19
what he's going to do? Who knows what he's going to
01:03:21
say? Hey, you guys, you can't trust
01:03:22
him. You cannot trust his leadership
01:03:23
because we don't even know who he is, because he doesn't even
01:03:25
know who he is. So there's we're talking about a
01:03:28
grown adult who's just like being whipped around by women in
01:03:32
his life, who are more important than he is.
01:03:34
And, you know, that's where he gets worried is.
01:03:37
So he's not even like a man. He's just kind of a little boy,
01:03:40
trying to figure out who he is doing all these things.
01:03:43
And I think I had one other point and now I'm kind of
01:03:45
forgetting it. But anyway, you can carry on
01:03:47
video. I almost don't want to continue
01:03:51
on with the video. I think that was a good
01:03:52
summation of Nathan Fletcher, in general.
01:03:56
But yeah, one of the video because it's full of, you know,
01:04:00
Nathan Fletcher, golden bits. Could I remembered my point?
01:04:05
I'm sorry. Okay.
01:04:06
Okay. Say it really fast.
01:04:07
So basically touching all exact said about, you know,
01:04:11
politicians are not our parents and when they start to act like
01:04:13
they are your parent into that, you're the child.
01:04:15
And that, that's the established relationship.
01:04:17
I just want to touch on that that we have to remember.
01:04:19
Number to anyone listening politicians?
01:04:22
They are like, did they are who they are?
01:04:25
Because of us, they are nobody without us to not put up with
01:04:30
this. They are nobody without us and
01:04:32
we can make them nobody's really fast.
01:04:35
If we stand up to them, they are not our parents.
01:04:37
They do not own us. They do not control us.
01:04:39
They do not run our lives. Yeah, it's the one thing the
01:04:45
Kryptonite of all politicians is the fear of losing power.
01:04:50
It will make any politician flip their positions, change their
01:04:54
whole, political philosophy on the podcast pre-show.
01:04:59
I was talking about how London Bri the mayor of San Francisco
01:05:02
moved from far left all the way to the middle, because people in
01:05:07
San Francisco were fed up with the far left stuff, which is
01:05:10
crazy to think that people in San, Francisco are getting fed
01:05:12
up with the far left stuff. But yeah, nothing scares
01:05:17
politicians more than than losing power.
01:05:20
Power and so that's the one Kryptonite we.
01:05:23
As voters. Always have is, at least for
01:05:27
now. We still have the power of the
01:05:28
recall. We still have the power of
01:05:30
referendum and we saw the pilot of the, the power of The Ballot
01:05:34
Box. So that's why you got to put the
01:05:38
fear of God into him, that we can come out and we can change
01:05:42
it and vote them out and because if you take their power away,
01:05:46
you've ended their career, it's all about like Nathan Fletcher's
01:05:49
of Example of if we don't stop them at some point, he's gonna
01:05:55
keep going and he's going to keep going up the ladder more
01:05:57
and more and more to the point where he's like Untouchable,
01:06:00
where he becomes the next Gavin Newsom.
01:06:02
And he's like, he's got a 26 million dollar War chest and
01:06:06
he's running for governor. And there's nothing you can do
01:06:07
to stop them at that point and nobody who runs against them.
01:06:10
The ghost of Ronald Reagan could come back and he'd still beat
01:06:12
him. So let's finish up this video.
01:06:16
See what other unifying words? Mr. Fletcher has as for us, And
01:06:24
show them that we will outwork and out organized and we intend
01:06:28
to preserve our democracy and improve.
01:06:31
Preserve our democratically elected governor.
01:06:34
In this state, adding fuel to the fire as a former mayor of my
01:06:39
city and the city of San Diego. A mayor who is trying to exploit
01:06:44
a environment of extremism to undermine and undercut.
01:06:48
The leadership of our governor, and I would be Kevin Faulkner.
01:06:52
Our governor has led during one of the most difficult times in
01:06:56
the history of our country responding to the covid-19.
01:06:59
Pandemic with science-based data, driven approaches, one of
01:07:03
the most difficult situations that has ever been encountered
01:07:06
by any governor in anytime, but he's also battle wildfires and
01:07:10
natural disasters and a series of social unrest, and he has
01:07:13
done it all with consistency with purpose and a commitment to
01:07:17
serving the people of California.
01:07:18
If you contrast, that with Kevin Faulkner, who half, Fast his way
01:07:22
through his term in office, setting, low expectations,
01:07:25
cutting them in half and then delaying it for his successor.
01:07:29
You have a clear contrast and Leadership he left now, mayor
01:07:34
Todd Gloria. A structural budget deficit, a
01:07:37
homeless crisis, billions of dollars in unfunded clean water,
01:07:41
obligations a pension disaster of his own, making a series of
01:07:45
failed, real estate, boondoggles and years of backlogs of
01:07:49
problems and an inability to Difficult decisions.
01:07:53
And that is a stark contrast to what we see in Governor news and
01:07:57
leading our state and California.
01:07:58
Democrats stand with Governor, Newsom against this recall and
01:08:02
against the Trump efforts. It should also be noted that
01:08:05
mayor Faulkner joined President, Donald Trump on the day.
01:08:08
He announced for re-election in the Oval Office.
01:08:12
Trump went on Sean Hannity, that night to brag about how much
01:08:15
mayor Faulkner, supported building a wall along, our
01:08:18
Southern border and just recently, mayor Faulkner made
01:08:21
clear that he Did in fact cast his vote for Donald Trump?
01:08:24
That is not the approach that we need in the state of California.
01:08:27
And today, I'm joining the Democratic party, my fellow
01:08:30
Democrats in, taking a strong stand against extremism against
01:08:34
what we are seeing and on behalf of the Democracy in our country.
01:08:38
And it's my pleasure to join here today.
01:08:39
I almost kind of have a laughable image of my mind of
01:08:44
like after that was over. He's like a little puppy dog.
01:08:48
And he's like did I do good guys.
01:08:49
Did I get a treat now? Yeah, you know, like is go good
01:08:54
boy. That's a good boy.
01:08:56
Looks like your boy naked, Twitter.
01:09:01
Checking his text messages. The Gaijin, see that?
01:09:04
Oh my gosh. Did I do a good job?
01:09:07
Oh my God. I'm gonna talk about fanboying
01:09:11
for anybody, anybody, fanboying, and anybody when Gavin's in the
01:09:16
city for 56 minutes, and Nathan is waiting for him, at the
01:09:19
freaking tarmac like Like the guide obsesses over Gabon.
01:09:26
So it's just again the doublespeak it's like anybody
01:09:29
paying attention to you? How do you like girls freaking
01:09:34
liar? But there's like yeah, it's just
01:09:37
it's crazy, it's laughable. And I forgotten like you know
01:09:44
the funny thing is like if you know Kevin Faulkner he is the
01:09:48
farthest thing. He is definitely a moderate
01:09:51
Republican to the point where a lot of people call them a rhino.
01:09:55
Yeah, but I mean he is the farthest thing from like an Uber
01:09:59
Maga right-wing. Yeah.
01:10:01
Looking like he's absolutely fact that Trump so I guess
01:10:06
that's it, this whole thing. I guess that tarnishes whole
01:10:10
like how It's all they had back then was well, you were
01:10:13
associated with Trump, so therefore, we're going to
01:10:16
tarnish you and call you racist Neo-Nazi.
01:10:18
And I think they, they, there's a reason why Nathan Fletcher
01:10:25
went after Kevin Faulkner, so hard on.
01:10:27
This was specifically, because they knew in the polling, Kevin
01:10:31
Faulkner was likely, the biggest threat to Gavin.
01:10:34
Newsom, it's my belief that this is just my belief.
01:10:39
You can people can disagree with Me or not if it hadn't been for
01:10:42
Larry Elder entering the race. I think the recall would have
01:10:44
been a lot closer and I think someone like Kevin Faulkner
01:10:47
probably would have made a very strong, run to replace Gavin
01:10:51
Newsom and I think that's what they knew was going to happen
01:10:54
because no one was really Democrats weren't really into
01:10:56
the recall at that point. So they all new.
01:10:59
Let's go after Falkner and try and turn them into a trump
01:11:02
Republican, it didn't work. Until they got Larry Elder and
01:11:06
then they go oh here's our Trump Republican.
01:11:09
Now we can go after them and defeat.
01:11:10
The recall forget Faulkner beat him at that Mayoral race with
01:11:15
that that special race. When Bob filner had his 2013,
01:11:20
Faulkner won that race. Ultimately February 2014.
01:11:24
So he still licking his wounds Nathan is yeah that so any any
01:11:28
chance that he can just stick it to Faulkner.
01:11:31
Yeah same thing with Carl demaio he has a thing against Even Fox.
01:11:35
Yeah, everyone who's lost to Kevin?
01:11:37
Faulkner has like this axe to grind with him, which is kind of
01:11:40
funny, but that's I think that encapsulate sore, that's a good
01:11:45
way to cap off who Nathan Fletcher is.
01:11:47
I think that video is a perfect way to kind of sum up the bully
01:11:52
that Nathan Fletcher is. At the end of the day, he will
01:11:57
call you every name in the book. If you're a political enemy, he
01:12:00
does not care about Unity. He uses the buzz words of our
01:12:04
democracy secrecy and all this BS to try and say all the right
01:12:09
things and Zack you nailed it on the head.
01:12:12
He literally was just going down his speech.
01:12:16
That was probably written to him.
01:12:19
So, yeah. And doing his little finger
01:12:20
thing that it's some speechwriters, okay, you're
01:12:23
going to hit this buzzword, you're going to hit this.
01:12:25
Buzzword, you're going to say neo-nazis are going to see white
01:12:28
supremacist. You're going to say we have to
01:12:29
defend our democracy and it's like he is the product of Of
01:12:36
political, consultants, and focus groups in a room like
01:12:39
saying, okay, this is how you become the perfect Democratic
01:12:42
politician in California. You just say these things and
01:12:44
you'll keep going. So, I mean, he, I don't think he
01:12:48
has any backbone or spine to be his own man.
01:12:52
And Camille said that as well. Like, he just kind of bounces
01:12:54
from person to person, whoever can help them, move up the
01:12:57
ladder. Whatever you want me to say,
01:13:00
I'll pick myself out, I don't care.
01:13:02
I just want to get more power. Thoughts.
01:13:10
Yeah, actually I forgot to mention and 28 2008 when he was
01:13:14
an assemblyman there was he said passed something called he also
01:13:17
didn't build Chelsea's law and I'm sorry.
01:13:20
I don't have all the facts on that but I know it had something
01:13:22
to do with the woman. Does anyone know she had
01:13:25
disappeared? I don't remember.
01:13:29
She was murdered or not. I believe that was the case.
01:13:31
But he used her parents as like the poster child for his for
01:13:34
his, you know, I did this and I was actually reading an article
01:13:38
about it and From that time. And so many of the comments were
01:13:42
that, they felt like people felt like it was.
01:13:45
It's really cold and cruel to the parents and how he he just
01:13:49
hopped on. You know, again these
01:13:51
politicians never let a tragedy go to waste, but he immediately
01:13:54
harped on that he wasn't close to situation at all.
01:13:56
And he was just like, I'm going to get these morning parents, as
01:13:59
you know, the poster child for my video and show I did this and
01:14:04
like people just felt like it wasn't even authentic, it was
01:14:06
just trying to get, you know. Points out there.
01:14:11
And so, I just want to say that again, that speaks to who he is
01:14:14
as a person, and his leadership and how he will be as a senator.
01:14:22
Absolutely. Hey, he even on his current
01:14:26
state senate website, you references Chelsea's law and how
01:14:30
you know I'm I'm the, I'm the reason that that exists and
01:14:36
yeah, and it's like Just the same.
01:14:39
I didn't you crazy as a Marine. It does.
01:14:43
Yes of course. Okay and it just I think it's
01:14:47
telling when you have to go so deep into the the bag of what
01:14:52
I've done. But over 10 years ago to say I
01:14:57
know this is what I'm doing or I've done and it's like well
01:15:01
you've also been in office for how many years and you know
01:15:03
everything is we're going to start this.
01:15:05
We're going to start this like dude at some point you got to
01:15:08
start because it's like the problem is getting worse and
01:15:11
you're getting more powerful. Also, what gives yeah, how about
01:15:16
let's talk about how you divorced your wife and then
01:15:17
tried to get out of spousal and child support and how you ruined
01:15:21
businesses and didn't want people going to the beach and
01:15:24
let's talk about that. She mentioned that on your
01:15:27
website Fletcher. Of course not.
01:15:31
Yeah, well I think we've I think if Nathan Fletcher, only knew we
01:15:37
talked about him for a full hour and 20 minutes, we probably
01:15:40
could keep talking Fletcher. I don't know in his weird world,
01:15:44
he might see, he might be flattered.
01:15:48
We spent so much time talking about him but oh no, he is that
01:15:54
we're taking up so much time to talk about.
01:15:57
I just got that. He actually tried to buy the one
01:16:01
of the community members made a shirt that shows Nathan and it's
01:16:04
like Tyrant. Have you seen that shirt?
01:16:07
It's kind of like the Obama hope like heck but it says Tyrant
01:16:12
Fletcher interest. Nathan actually reached out to
01:16:16
that person to buy a shirt. And while the story behind him
01:16:21
creating that shirt was to keep funding his household during the
01:16:25
pandemic because his business was shut down.
01:16:28
So he used that to try and like get money to keep things moving
01:16:34
and Nathan, you know, in his cozy little, you know, Place
01:16:38
thinks it's funny and he's like, hey, and I'd like to buy one and
01:16:42
it's like, dude, you insensitive POS, like, you don't even know
01:16:47
why you're on a shirt. You just.
01:16:49
And people used to hate you, like, you make it easy, but, but
01:16:54
you best believe, there are specific reasons why people get
01:16:57
as passionate as they do, and he just continues to be
01:17:02
unaccountable to all of his his sins.
01:17:05
If you will. And, you know, it to be honest,
01:17:09
I don't think it's actually hit me that he's running for state
01:17:12
senate as much as I'm aware of it as much as I can write about
01:17:15
it, unless I can think about it. It hasn't really hit me. because
01:17:20
I look at someone like that, like I said earlier and it's Why
01:17:24
do you, why? I mean I would Democrats trust
01:17:28
somebody like that. I mean just as a person as a
01:17:30
human to human forget your labels, a democratic.
01:17:33
How do you actually trust somebody that has given you?
01:17:36
Every reason to not trust them personally politically
01:17:40
economically, like he's given us every reason to be like oh this
01:17:45
is a politician, you don't vote for and so it just I still don't
01:17:49
have that answer. I think a lot of it has to do
01:17:52
with union dues and people being, you know, I know how
01:17:56
unions work I. When I was a student trustee, at
01:17:58
Grossmont College, the Union's held the board hostage and used.
01:18:01
Well, we're not going to teach students next tomorrow.
01:18:03
If you don't, you know, do XYZ. So I know how like they do not
01:18:08
care as long as they get, you know, whatever it is they want.
01:18:11
And so I think the reason to kind of answer something you
01:18:14
said earlier is like, oh it's in the bag.
01:18:16
It's, you know, it's in the back.
01:18:17
Well, that's because cuz he's cultivated relationships with
01:18:21
these people for so long that they have such influence over
01:18:26
all these other people and when those people are incentivized to
01:18:29
vote a certain way because your boss or CEO or Union boss tells
01:18:33
you to they do and that's 10 year 10, here 10 here
01:18:37
and it's like that adds up. And then when you got that on
01:18:40
Lock and you got Lorena's just spewing the rhetoric to keep you
01:18:43
fired up, you don't need to, you don't need votes from other
01:18:47
people, you have it. Cured and that's what disgusts
01:18:50
me of even talking about. Tony, I can see, oh, it's a
01:18:53
shoo-in. No, it shouldn't be, you know,
01:18:56
like it actually shouldn't be. It should be an opportunity for
01:19:00
people to question him and, and juxtaposed a different vision
01:19:04
and it's like we're already here.
01:19:06
Oh yeah. It's and I'm not, you know, I'm
01:19:08
just that, that is the sentiment is like, oh, he's gonna oh, so
01:19:11
he's gonna be the state senate. Senator was going to run for it
01:19:15
but it's like no, he wanted already.
01:19:19
And I think that right there speaks to a broken system that
01:19:22
democrats should fear because God forbid it's a, it's a
01:19:25
republican. How are you going to?
01:19:27
What are you gonna do then? If it's just all Republicans are
01:19:29
you know, there's places like that and they would be shitting
01:19:32
her pants if they lived in the situation like that which exists
01:19:35
in this country. So to see them turn a blind eye.
01:19:38
I just think I don't know, it's crazy.
01:19:42
And I talked to so many Democrats that are fed up with
01:19:45
him. So, I don't, I'm trying to find
01:19:47
these 75 people who are just willing to write their write his
01:19:52
name down, but it's harder task than you'd think.
01:19:57
Yeah. So I guess this is a good time
01:20:04
to bring up this question to finish out because he's running
01:20:09
for state. Senate will fed up with Fletcher
01:20:13
be continuing the fight against Fletcher and his State Senate
01:20:16
run. So good question and I kind of
01:20:21
thought it might come up. So obviously like I said in the
01:20:25
beginning, I thought there'd be some grace period to readjust
01:20:29
how we're going to deal with these for next year's.
01:20:32
And that was cut in half to actually cut into like a fourth
01:20:38
because now he's going to start he's campaigning for the next
01:20:41
position into year. Like we're already in the
01:20:42
campaign season so I not to be invested in to keep things
01:20:48
moving in. Keep.
01:20:49
I mean, I'm sure he thought after 20 after the election,
01:20:51
there wasn't going to be another post about them on from that
01:20:54
page, and I'm sure a lot of people thought that but and
01:20:58
yeah, I've slowed down sure but I'm still Fed Up.
01:21:03
It did that wasn't that? Wasn't just a just a phase like
01:21:06
no, he still exists in this County as a leader.
01:21:10
I have a problem with it and I'm willing to sacrifice my time and
01:21:13
my own money to bring awareness to that.
01:21:16
So as for 2024, So just to just to explain kind of like the
01:21:22
logistics behind it. The pack itself, is the saint,
01:21:26
is the pack that I created is, the San Diego fact pack.
01:21:30
So that's the, that's the actual mechanism register with the
01:21:33
state of California. Now, with that, the campaign fed
01:21:37
up with Fletcher is was against for his supervisor 2022, race.
01:21:43
So, the funding was only specified to go after him in
01:21:46
that race. And then, when that race was
01:21:48
over, Are we closing it down? It takes a phone call and a half
01:21:53
to start it up again. So it's not like it's a
01:21:55
treacherous thing to be like, okay, well there's excitement to
01:21:59
fundraise and there's excitement to like bring more publicity I
01:22:02
can you know, I can be turned on easily and I think in this is to
01:22:06
anybody who's in Leadership positions Republicans fed up
01:22:13
with Fletcher, as an awesome opportunity to be creative in
01:22:17
the way you oppose him. And, and I say that, because a
01:22:21
text message actually was sent to most people here in San
01:22:24
Diego. And even on social media, the
01:22:27
Republican party is fundraising against Nathan $39.
01:22:31
Stop his state senate seat. Well, This, I could go on into a
01:22:37
whole different rabbit hole, but I think there's an opportunity
01:22:40
to have a very again, that's creative and non non predictable
01:22:46
approach with fed up with Fletcher.
01:22:48
I've tried to embody some of that and bring surface more of a
01:22:54
personalized experience of going against him.
01:22:56
And I think if that excitement because I don't that the thing
01:23:00
that will stop fed up with Fletcher, from being as like
01:23:03
boots-on-the-ground fundraiser. Like doing what we did is more
01:23:07
disenfranchised people. You know, I I can't pass out
01:23:12
10 hangers and feed myself, you know, by myself.
01:23:18
So if that excitement and energy is not there, then it's going to
01:23:21
be a lot. It's going to be difficult to
01:23:23
even be effect. Be route to be realistic and in
01:23:27
being effective, I've seen crazier things happen in
01:23:30
politics. So I will never say it.
01:23:33
Takes one. Turn of events to say, holy
01:23:37
crap, there's an opportunity, a window, let's take it so that's
01:23:41
always there. But it's really going to be.
01:23:44
How does the community respond to this?
01:23:46
So they just more like up. That's it.
01:23:49
He's done. He's Governor like just write
01:23:51
these, it's a Dun Dun game, he's Unstoppable or will people.
01:23:57
New region really bring the heat and say, all right this is an
01:24:01
opportunity with all this District 2 And all these
01:24:05
different regions to oppose them.
01:24:07
But it's Toni Atkins. So there's it's a kind of one of
01:24:14
those things but I'm staying open to it.
01:24:16
I've been posting here and there and me paying attention to
01:24:21
Nathan's moves and decisions. It doesn't stop.
01:24:25
So Yeah, awesome. So anybody who's out there,
01:24:30
listening, if you're interested in getting involved in joining
01:24:34
Zack and his fight, check them out, fed up with Fletcher, on
01:24:37
Twitter and on Instagram, you can find them there.
01:24:41
Facebook message him, Facebook, go check them out there and say
01:24:44
hey I LinkedIn podcast all those LinkedIn.
01:24:48
LinkedIn if you want to make it professional and what you know
01:24:51
but not go there as well. Are you on any?
01:24:56
Other is fed up. Fletcher on hinge or anything
01:24:59
like that, or I should be a plate marketing way of trying to
01:25:04
get chocolate. Yeah, really fed up with
01:25:07
Fletcher swipe right or something like that, but yeah,
01:25:10
if you're if you're interested, reach out to Zach because you
01:25:16
got to stop them while they're still local before, they get too
01:25:19
big, and that's Fletcher's. Definitely on his way up to
01:25:23
getting too big where we can kind of stop them before we for
01:25:27
Too long, we're saying governor, Fletcher, and then we're all
01:25:29
throwing up in my mouth. So, but we could go on and on
01:25:34
about Nathan Fletcher. I want to thank Zack for coming
01:25:37
on and educating us about Nathan Fletcher and yeah, it's been a
01:25:44
fun episode and I hope Nathan Fletcher does listen to this and
01:25:48
I know his director of marketing and Communications has reached
01:25:51
out to me for him to come on to the show.
01:25:53
I think, after they kind of did a little research, they figured
01:25:56
out. We might not be the most.
01:25:57
Friendly show in the world trim to come on, but hey, if Fletcher
01:26:01
wants to come on, he's playing some hon.
01:26:03
I told you I would have loved to have more Lon So, ya know, they,
01:26:09
they actively watch all of my stories.
01:26:11
So my personal and fed up of Fletcher, I caught Nathan post
01:26:15
watching the story about me broadcasting about this, so he's
01:26:19
aware of it happening and I'm sure tonight, or right now,
01:26:23
you've made it Bill, I've made it.
01:26:26
I've got on my fish Ali. Yeah, with the minute.
01:26:29
He tweets about number us. When you're yeah I'll be excited
01:26:33
to see right-wing extremists talk on.
01:26:37
A podcast, we're just so obsessed with me.
01:26:41
Oh my gosh. Reminds me of when I was in the
01:26:44
Marines, I learned overcome. This kind of behavior from these
01:26:50
people though. I learned in the Marines, how to
01:26:56
push back on bullies? Great.
01:27:00
Well, thank you Phillip. I really enjoyed coming on and,
01:27:03
like I said, I watch your episodes because you've given
01:27:07
Give such of about, you know, I think a very balanced way of
01:27:10
looking at issues that are already hyper-partisan and so I
01:27:15
always appreciated your commentary and I know that your
01:27:19
audience is there not just sit back and chill.
01:27:23
Like you've got an AG, you've got to, you've got to an
01:27:25
audience that is engaging and so I look forward to hopefully
01:27:29
connecting with more people as we get closer to this looming
01:27:33
2020 for state senate race. So thank you again for having
01:27:37
Having me Camille. Thank you as well for for Co
01:27:40
having me. Sure, thanks for coming on.
01:27:44
Yeah, fun lots of teeth. So keeps filling up, they'll be
01:27:50
more every single day and we didn't even start a Lorena
01:27:53
Gonzalez, but that's a whole different show.
01:27:55
We could do a whole Arena Gonzalez show, but as I like to
01:27:59
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