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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of California underground.
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We have tonight. I another legislative Roundup,
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it's very important to stay up on what is going on in the
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legislature and we figure if we're going to another
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legislative Roundup, we're going to have to bring back Jonathan
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and zaccharas in he is the founder of reopen, California
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schools. He did such a great job last
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time kind of walking us through where the bills are, what's
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going on with them. That weep.
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When Cynthia and I were talking about this, we were like, well,
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we Have to have him back on. So Jonathan, welcome back to the
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program. Why don't you introduce
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yourself? Because for people who are just
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tuning in didn't tune in the last time.
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What is reopen? California schools?
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What's your goal? We were talking about before the
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show, but we'd like to get some more details so people can
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support you. Yeah, thank you for having me.
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I'm glad to be here. So, Reba California schools, you
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know, I wasn't involved in politics or any political
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activism prior to school's been shut down.
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Once they shut down. Down.
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I say this is this is horrible. What's going on?
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And one of the problems we had were at the state level so what
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we did was are found in reopen, California schools.
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It's still going around for that even though schools are open but
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there still is that Veiled Threat.
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I don't think that's going to happen but we still have all
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these other issues that have come up to fight for kids and
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fight the state legislature for what's going on as Hensel.
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You know why we're so versed in these bad bills, that were that,
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we're going to discuss one way to fight that we learned.
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Getting the right. If you have the right school
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board members, right, right? Can it is locally elected?
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You can make a difference. And so some of the next
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Endeavors that we working on will be that to get the right
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candidate selected for school board across the state.
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So I would advise you go to our Facebook group reopen,
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California, schools, or you can follow me on Twitter at reopen,
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see a schools for some important updates coming in that regard.
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Especially if you want to get involved yourself the volunteer,
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run for office. Definitely go to the photo, my
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social media. You and see how you can get
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involved that way, but just go there.
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Anyway, sign up then you'll get updates as election gets closer
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for candidates in your area. Awesome.
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And as always my trusty co-host Cynthia's here as well.
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How are you doing tonight? Cynthia, I'm doing great.
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Thank you, Jonathan for hopping back on.
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You're a great guest that we had lost time and I look forward to
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this round up this time, but I'm doing great.
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So, without further Ado, I know we you kind of proposed a lot of
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well Cynthia came up with a great list of bills.
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Probably, more than enough. But if there's any bill, we can
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just hop right into, I'll let the guest, pick the first bill,
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how about that? And we'll go over that and then
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we'll just kind of do a round robin of which bills we want to
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talk about. See here, what be a good one to
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start with, you know, I think it'd be great to start with
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maybe the one that was the most controversial.
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And luckily, if thankfully is dead, and that would be SP. 871.
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So that was where, you know, in this would be good segue for
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other, things are going to talk about. 871 was a bill that would
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remove the personal belief exemption for any vaccines that
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were added by cdph. And it would have explicitly
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added the 19 vaccine to be added.
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Now mind you there's a lot of coercion happening and on with
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certain school districts at the 12 and older level.
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So you see higher rates in the state vaccinations for those
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groups. But when you look at students
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10:55, it's only about a third of the kids across the state.
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So it's not a very popular issue that people necessarily want
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mandated for them for their kids.
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And so there's a lot of backlash on that new some himself pushed
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us. State mandate, which would have
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had the personal belief exemptions for covid, another
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year. So not until 2023 school year, I
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believe you'll ultimately drop that off together especially
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with some of the data that's coming out about the
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ineffectiveness or at least lack of anyone can get infected still
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with the vaccine. So I don't see that happening
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and then a 71 pan pulled it. He wasn't able to get enough
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votes even in committee ticket that through.
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So he's pulled that bill, that was on February.
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A 24th 2022 that says referral to committee on Judiciary
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rescinded because of limitations placed on a committee hearings
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due to ongoing health and safety risks of covid-19 virus.
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So that's the official but that's not really what happened?
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No, he actually I think even if she does statement see need to
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have the support. So and just to point out, this
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is sort of a preview of what's going to come and you'll see
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this gang of this cast of characters.
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Richard pan, Scott wiener achille Weber and Buffy Wicks.
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They sort of their kind of always in the middle, you know,
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it's especially, dr. Pan.
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He has a lot of bills that he pushed forward, especially when
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it came to covid, he pushed a lot of stuff over.
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It's his last term, he's turned out I believe.
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So it makes sense, he's sort of the sacrificial lamb for
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everything that is super controversial.
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Why not? Just let me take it and I'll do
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it because no one's going to re-elect me.
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Anyway, I'm turned out, but Scott wiener, as always, he's
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always, Middle of enough controversy as well.
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So but that's right off the bat that's good news that bill is
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dead, right? Sorry, I was putting that out as
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a question. It's dead.
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We don't have to worry about it. Is that I should have prefaced,
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whether that was rhetorical or not.
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Cool. All right, so, one down, how
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many more to go? There are plenty more to go.
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Cynthia year up next. Why don't you pick one?
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And we'll hop on that one. Sure.
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So I covered this extensively, that one American news and I
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want to give a shout out to California to work.
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Governance and Laura Powell who you know, facilitates that
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nonpartisan group but they have done a very good job of
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advocating. And speaking about this
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particular bill, I want to cover a be 2098 so it was introduced
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in the assembly by assemblymember Evan low.
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And what this bill is. You know when it comes to the
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discussion on you know Medical in the medical industry you know
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a word that was always toss around is misinformation and
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what this bill particularly does it punishes medical doctors
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positions and treaters for spreading so-called covid
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misinformation and what's interesting about it and what
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you know, the group and what you know, different doctors like dr.
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I think it's a drinker, cure ciotti like it it opens up a can
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of worms. So basically there's a lot of
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different angles to why this bill is a disaster.
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So from the Constitutional standpoint we have to ask
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ourselves what exactly is free speech.
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And you know what? This bill really does, it
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curtails that conversation and to expand to restricting what
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exactly it means to have free speech.
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My argument is like, you know, if there is quote unquote, The
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misinformation the only way to really combat that is through
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free speech. And what that bill does is it
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takes away that opportunity to, you know, talk about that.
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And then you know, from the moral standpoint, it's like
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first of all you don't like these are doctors, their
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positions that are they're allowed to be able to treat and
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say these things. And then it brings up to, you
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know, the other discussion of like what exactly is the right
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form of treatment. And so from the medical
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standpoint also, you know, we're going to talk about scientific.
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Progress having this bill, you know, be gets signed into law.
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It would actually, I would argue, you know, it would it
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would it would it wouldn't progress and have any scientific
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progress because the only way, you know, to have scientific
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progress is through having these discussions and having these
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advancements and whatnot. So, it's not only like an attack
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on free speech and you know, it's also, you know, attack on
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like, you know, Advancing science and it really doesn't
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matter to me. What you're paying else about
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that scene or not, regardless having these discussions on the,
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you know what works and what doesn't depending on your body.
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It's important to have those discussions and then also to
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like it's just a huge gray area and even if like it's vague and
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even if it's wrong, it doesn't give you a right to say what is
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wrong, or right? So Jonathan Island.
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Oh, I know you followed this bill extensively to and I know
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you've given shouts to the The people that I mentioned, not
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sure if there's anything that I missed or anything that you
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wanted to also bring up. Yeah, I just I think you did a
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good job covering it and it just Highway an example of this.
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They want to discipline doctors for, you know, quote
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misinformation. There's a lot of things that
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have changed over the course of this pandemic, right?
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They The Establishment, you know it, which again, the government
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doctors were saying one thing. There's people that recognized
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early that what they were saying was incorrect and challenge that
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some of those people were kicked off Twitter, and then if this
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bill were passed, they would then have to be formally
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disciplined, or could be formally disciplined.
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User license to just find out everything that they had been
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advocating and speaking out against was true, six months
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later. And so this is very scary that
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the trying to do this and this begin, its specific to covid
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misinformation, you know, Pan the way he sells it, you know,
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in a way he can does most of the talking for it but it
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misrepresents a so it's for, you know, blatant misinformation as
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for patients that are being harmed.
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They've taken all that language. Some of that language out of the
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bill. It's continue to move through.
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Kitty. You know, like you mentioned
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California for good governance and I'm just another great
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people have fought against us and are speaking out of every
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hearing but so far it looks like it's it's going through with
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very few amendments. it's one of those bills that it sounds
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dystopian in the way if you explain it to someone and sort
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of layman terms of a doctor could get face, disciplinary
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action for speaking about something that Could be deemed
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by one group of people in one governing body that this is
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misinformation. And I think that's the scariest
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part. Is that something that was,
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maybe they thought it was misinformation a year ago, has
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been coming out, and it's been proven that it's quite the
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opposite. If there's anything, we've
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learned that things, continually change regarding covid and we
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know this is definitely aimed at people talking about covid or
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talking about covid in the wrong way or I should say the wrong.
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I in quotes it's definitely a way to kind of scare or chill
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speech. I'll be interested to see if
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this law passes. If there is some sort of First
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Amendment challenge to it in the courts for the first doctor who
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does sort of get disciplined by this, thereby be a First
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Amendment challenge, probably a liberty of speech, under the
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California Constitution because the actually the liberty of
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speech provision of the California Constitution is
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actually broader than the first amendment when it comes to
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protections. So it'll be interesting to say
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this will probably End up in court and we'll see whether ends
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up in federal court or state court, probably likely state
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court because it is a state law. So keep an eye on it, but it is
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sad. That is just kind of marching
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through the assembly right now and on its way.
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I think we should cover also too you know in case because people
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are going to be following Along on all these bills right now.
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They are, you know, recess so they you know are having a
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little bit of a break and they're going to be back in
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reconvening back at the Capitol in Sacramento, August 1st.
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And that session I think is until the end of August correct?
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Because I know that discussions and like before like election
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season. I think it's like the end of
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August I thought it was a little bit longer but this putting you
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might be right. Yeah, so so if you call I mean
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I'm I know that the Sacramento Capital staffers are still
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working but or actually I don't think they are because I know
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someone that's obligation right now.
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But yeah but there is going to be a lot of work to be done and
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they're going to be back in Sacramento August 1st.
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So it's good that we're just taking this time to educate
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people and you can email them. But as far as like you know,
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reaching out to people, They are out of session until August 1st
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and won't be back until then. So Jonathan you had mentioned
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the bill you recommended there was a good segue to another bill
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and I didn't want to cut you off that there was a Segway to
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another bill that you want to get to.
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Well I think that has to do with as we talk about some of the
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legal challenges school districts at some point one,
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make sure you want to cover 871 kind of ties into that as well
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as other bills that were pushing or that they've been pushing,
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okay? Make sure it's such a pain that
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one I guess. It's my turn.
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I'm going to pick this one. I talked about it yesterday, on
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coffee and California politics, which is SB 918.
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This pill is basically been gutted in a mandate in response
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to the Brewing decision that came out in the Brewing decision
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is the Supreme Court case that allowed to get rid of the good
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cause statement. For when you get your carrying
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concealed permit, you no longer have to prove you need good.
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Cause which was sort of the barrier for a lot of people who
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are trying to get a carrying concealed and a lot of Sheriff's
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were using that as a way to prevent people from getting a
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carrying concealed. So in certain counties like Los
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Angeles County Alameda, County counties like that, Marin County
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is another really bad one. They were basically saying that
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there's no reason for you to actually need a gun and there's
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no good cause that would essentially satisfy it.
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So Brewing came out said that's no longer Impediment, you can
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just apply and the county has to issue it.
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As long as you pass a background check and all that stuff.
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So not to take it laying down, obviously California crafted
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this bill which added a whole bunch of places in places that
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they call sensitive places. Now, in the Supreme Court
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decision, Thomas talked about what these sensitive places are
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that throughout history. These were places that You would
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not carry a gun typically schools, government building
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stuff like that are considered sensitive places, California.
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Took it a step further and said we're going to make everything a
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sensitive place. You can't carry it in a
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restaurant. You can't carry it in church.
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You can't carry it walking by a school.
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You can't carry it in a park. You can't carry it in a zoo.
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I mean, they had to make sure that they differentiate you
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can't carry in a zoo. And the other thing is in or
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around, Any of these places. So even if you're kind of in the
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area of these places, you're not supposed to be carrying and then
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the biggest caveat is that you would not be allowed to carry in
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any private business in or around any private business.
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That does not explicitly put on the front of its business, your
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CCW weapon is welcome in our store.
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So with that said does it sound like there's really any place
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you could carry a firearm in the state of California outside of
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your home. You pretty much know.
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Yeah, I mean you could basically a just outside your driving.
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Yeah, you could probably go walk to your driveway.
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Put it in your car, they're probably figure out a way that
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you can access it in your car. It has to be locked away like in
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the trunk or something like that.
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Even if you have a carry and conceal and yeah, it's there's
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very few places left in California if this bill L
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passes, which it likely will, because there is the political
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momentum to do something about guns in California, and
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obviously, with the Democratic supermajority, there is enough
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momentum and there's enough support that people will back
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this. That a lot of politicians will
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think they got tough on bills and they work on allow people to
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turn California into the wild wild west.
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But it's a scary bill for anyone who is going to get a and this
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is just all the This is why I'm scrolling through.
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This isn't even the actual bill. Surprisingly.
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None of the original authors, or co-sponsors, or co-authors, were
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Scott wiener or dr. Pan or Buffy, Wicks or akela
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Weber, probably because it was gutted, an amended.
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But as of right now on June 29, 2022, it was read a second time
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and amended and re-referred to the committee on Appropriations.
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So that's where it's at right now.
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I would imagine if this does pass, this will be another one
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that ends up in court. In terms of them filing suit
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over a huge infringement. On your second amendment rights
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based on what the brew and decision came down with.
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I don't, I don't think this would hold up in court, we're
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especially in federal court. I think it's important to know
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to one of the co-sponsors is assemblywoman, Mia bonta, and
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she is the wife of raw bonta, there are Attorney General.
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Yeah, she took over or I guess she won a special election when
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her husband got appointed to be attorney general to.
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It's amazing how that all works. Hmm, and this is Kevin McCarty
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thought to be confused with Kevin McCarthy.
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Don't relation comments about that bill.
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So the hearing was was interesting but latest one, I
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want to see it was a quirk. I believe, maybe I'm
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mispronouncing it but he made a comment that was quite
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interesting. He basically was Matt what we've
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been at this At the Supreme Court and said, who is the
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Supreme Court that has to decide what's constitutional?
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I mean, basically right is what he said, he was, he was
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referring to Barbara V Madison in which the when you know,
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wasn't explicitly said that the Supreme Court in the
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Constitution, the Supreme Court can strike down certain
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components the wall. But it's implied.
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As you read that the role of the Supreme Court that they can
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affirm laws as constitutional. And they can say that certain
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laws are unconstitutional. So I think that's what he's
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referring to it as a very crazy rant.
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You should check that out. If you get a chance, I did post
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that one to my personal Twitter which was retweeted by fire
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Firearms, policy Coalition and the second point is there's a
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provision in this bill that changes the law.
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That's not getting too much attention.
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I think as some of the other restrictions and that would be
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what your concealed carry permit.
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You have to be the registered owner, like the individual, who
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purchased the gun and owns the gun, which would mean it would
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exclude, your But your husband, so they have the gonna you want
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to be trained with what? In one weapon, you don't have to
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buy two, you know, essentially, you have to buy two different
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guns of the same type if you wanted to try.
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And so there's other limitations, be able to use a
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gun for family members for training and caring as well.
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So I think that's a provision that hopefully a spot.
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When some of these lawyers take a look at, it will be
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interesting to see because this bill is almost a mirror of what
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they're doing in New York state. So not to be outdone by New York
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State, not to be outmaneuvered on the left, California decided,
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we're going to do exactly the same thing in terms of asking
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for all these ridiculous things references in all that stuff and
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character, which I think I saw it was about a moral character
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statement or something like that.
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I thought how it isn't that basically a good cause
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statement, but in a different kind of way of like I'm a good
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person, I should be able to have this.
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So Will be interesting to see whether the New York law gets
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challenged and then that kind of Falls right away and then that
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President's is taken to here to California and maybe they back
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off. So it this will be a fight and I
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know the Firearms policy and California rifle, Pistol
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Association, gun, owners of California Gun, Owners of
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America and in California will have a lot of work to do a lot
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of lawsuits on their hands, but Speaking of the concept or the
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Supreme Court and who is the Supreme Court to determine what
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the Constitution is, this will be a little off topic, but I
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don't know if any of you saw that AOC was on Stephen Colbert,
00:21:18
the other night, and chew just spewed a bunch of gobbledygook
00:21:21
about the Civil War and how the Confederates invaded, the
00:21:24
Supreme Court and therefore it was illegitimate.
00:21:27
And that's why they came out with these decisions and ever
00:21:30
since then, the Supreme Court is sort of always been illegitimate
00:21:33
since then, and then Abraham Lincoln had to come in and start
00:21:37
The Supreme Court, it was quite the tale.
00:21:39
I think Abraham Lincoln vampire Hunter was more believable than
00:21:43
her tail. About what happened in the Civil
00:21:44
War, Nobody saw that one. Hi.
00:21:55
I didn't see that part of the rent.
00:21:57
Hi, I never thought yes to make me lose brain cells, so I try to
00:22:04
avoid hearing her voice as much as possible.
00:22:09
Yeah, and especially with Stephen Colbert.
00:22:12
Just like a lap dog being like, yeah, absolutely.
00:22:15
That's yeah, Confederates invaded and took over the
00:22:17
Supreme Court and yes, what happened.
00:22:20
Yeah, why we had Dred Scott, and then he was like, are you
00:22:24
running for president in 2020? For which to, which she didn't
00:22:28
say no, she didn't say she was not going to run in 2024.
00:22:31
So yeah, she should run new, some should run.
00:22:35
They should all run. Just make them all as far left.
00:22:39
Possible. All right Jonathan Europe.
00:22:41
What's the next bill? We're going to take a look at,
00:22:44
let's take a look. Let's take a look 1464, I'm
00:22:47
picking all the dead bills. A spear a p, SB 1464.
00:22:54
Yes, p. So this this bill, like I said
00:23:02
is also dead thankfully, but there's there's, you know, some
00:23:08
personal drama that I wasn't. Well, I take it personally drawn
00:23:13
on this of this bill. So this is a bill that would if
00:23:17
a say the Sheriff's Office refuses to carry out the orders
00:23:23
of a health, particular health benefit from public health.
00:23:27
So they say everyone has to be masked.
00:23:29
Indoors. And and the sheriff aren't
00:23:32
enforcing that law. So if someone calls and says,
00:23:35
hey, there's people here not wearing a mask and doors.
00:23:38
And the sheriff says, we're not going to spend resources dealing
00:23:41
with that, then it would strip, the sheriff's fun, their
00:23:46
funding, and send it to cdph. That's what this bill would have
00:23:50
done. So obviously the sheriff
00:23:52
associations, were some law enforcement associations were
00:23:55
against this bill but the bill, but the organization that was in
00:23:59
favor of it was Healthcare Officers, Association of
00:24:03
California, which is a from, obviously that I can understand
00:24:08
is an association then for the health directors and health
00:24:12
officers for each County, which those meant that membership
00:24:15
primarily is funded by our tax dollars and I saw my own
00:24:20
County's Public Health officer as one of the board members of
00:24:25
that and I'm like and I'm and we're just very frustrated that
00:24:30
Rob a doctor Oldham was on there and he didn't stop it.
00:24:33
Like what are you doing? Like you, you know, you know
00:24:36
where I can t, you know, where our supervisor standing over
00:24:39
that, your constituent stand. Why did you let this go through?
00:24:43
And spend our tax payer dollars on actually writing is
00:24:47
supporting a bill to work against their own citizens.
00:24:49
It's so that cuz I guess a little bit of drama in our local
00:24:54
government here as well as an El Dorado County and other health
00:24:56
officers that signed on to this and they're on the board for
00:25:00
that support but ultimately it failed thankfully and and it's
00:25:05
dead for this year. It didn't look like it made it
00:25:08
too far. It says introduced and Senate
00:25:10
back in February and that was about it.
00:25:14
Yeah, it was introduced and I think he had to pull a pick up a
00:25:18
couple times. I want to say because he didn't
00:25:20
have the votes in committee so I think he there was supposed to
00:25:25
be heard. In fact there was supposed yeah
00:25:30
it was pulled the night before and opposition testimony or
00:25:34
Heatley was supposed to testify as one of the opposition
00:25:37
Witnesses. He one who led the recall
00:25:40
against Newsom is also a former officer retired.
00:25:43
Officer, he was supposed to do that and then again, it was
00:25:46
pulled the night the night, before the morning.
00:25:48
He said he didn't have the votes.
00:25:50
Well, he didn't say that. He just, but we know he didn't
00:25:52
have the votes and that's why it's cold.
00:25:56
So another good news, I feel like these are some of the bills
00:25:59
we talked about in the last one and it's good to see that they
00:26:03
are. Some of them are dying and
00:26:05
they're not making it all the way through it.
00:26:06
So as crazy as it is, I don't know if it's pressure or I don't
00:26:10
know if it's it. Did he just didn't have the
00:26:12
votes because of outside pressure and people calling in
00:26:16
and it's pressure. Yeah, it's pressure.
00:26:18
If it wasn't for a bunch of people are getting involved.
00:26:22
I think these would have sailed through and how much of that and
00:26:25
I think that's That people get kind of downtrodden on is, how
00:26:31
much does does these massive call ins and these emails and
00:26:36
all that stuff to all their representatives?
00:26:38
How much noise does that make in their offices?
00:26:41
When a bill like this comes up? Do you believe it actually makes
00:26:45
a difference and bills like this actually get struck down or or
00:26:48
they just don't get the vote. It does make a difference and
00:26:51
having rallies make a difference, right?
00:26:53
So all there's also all also, there's so many things you can
00:26:56
do and it just adds up. So hang around you press on it.
00:27:00
Calling the committee members kind of makes a difference not
00:27:02
as much as I think with your own representative.
00:27:06
So there's, you know, the mass of calling campaigns to Target
00:27:08
the committee members but they may not live in or they may not
00:27:11
be your representative. So if you can get people in that
00:27:16
said, Representatives District the call that's kind of a much
00:27:19
bigger impact calling has a bigger impact than emails.
00:27:22
So it can again, is this about the level of effort and the
00:27:25
focus. And there's just been enough of
00:27:27
it, across the state. You know, I heard reports that
00:27:31
people are mad at pan for this because they're being flooded.
00:27:35
Right? Right before these hearings,
00:27:36
their offices are being flooded from calls against these bills
00:27:41
and like they're pan. Cut it out.
00:27:42
We can't get any work done because your bills are causing
00:27:45
so much controversy and so they'll let some of the stuff
00:27:48
come through some of the milder items but then push, you know,
00:27:52
say no on these other ones and and again, they he You won't
00:27:56
even bring it up for a vote. Are you want bring it to
00:27:59
committee if he doesn't have the vote?
00:28:00
And thankfully, a lot of the ones that haven't even passed a
00:28:03
single committee. Excellent.
00:28:06
So more good news. Another covid, built Bites.
00:28:10
The Dust. Especially dr.
00:28:13
Richard pan, who seem to be striking out a lot of these
00:28:16
bills. Cynthia Europe, what Bill do you
00:28:19
want to discuss? Let's finish up in the Assembly
00:28:24
of. This is another vaccine, 1A B
00:28:27
1797 to vaccine registry. Hey, B 1797.
00:28:36
Yes. Okay, so what's going on with
00:28:48
this bill? So if I remember this was
00:28:51
introduced by dr. Kayla Weber.
00:28:55
So basically what's controversial about this bill
00:29:01
is. Yep.
00:29:02
It was introduced by Weber and the other Co-op principal
00:29:07
co-author pan, co-authors low Wicks other, co-authors Newman
00:29:12
and Weiner, not surprised. So what was Any me about this is
00:29:18
basically right now, we already have like Health officers and
00:29:23
the State Department of Public Health which mind you have
00:29:25
already proven they're not in our best interest, you know,
00:29:29
they already have like immunization information
00:29:32
sessions and Earth Systems and what's concerning about this
00:29:37
bill was it would basically require Health Care Providers
00:29:41
and other agencies like schools child care facilities and
00:29:44
family, child care's. And And other County Human
00:29:47
Services agencies, you know, all these different agencies that
00:29:51
are already. Privatized is they would also
00:29:54
be, you know, have to have these immunization systems available.
00:30:00
So I think what was concerning about is, you know, there's
00:30:03
already an attack and are in our government school system, you
00:30:07
know, about be able to having to disclose this information with
00:30:10
mandates. Also being able Force to, you
00:30:14
know, Be forced to take these treatments with if there's other
00:30:18
alternative treatments that you prefer by choice.
00:30:22
But I think the fact that it's also you know making its way
00:30:27
through agencies and systems in our culture that already deemed
00:30:32
as private in society. I think that's that's a huge
00:30:37
concern for me. So it does look like that.
00:30:40
It did pass but it's making its way through.
00:30:43
You know, the assembly system. It's Appropriations Committee.
00:30:48
So I think it is a bill that we should, you know, make sure that
00:30:52
we are Vigilant on. That's, you know, kind of all my
00:30:55
thoughts about it. And for anybody who's interested
00:31:01
in what I'm following, this is open States dot org and you can
00:31:06
just sign up for a free account as you can see up there and if
00:31:08
you're interested you can just go like that.
00:31:10
Follow the bill and they'll send you emails as to what's going on
00:31:14
specifically for each bill. So if you want to, instead of
00:31:16
just checking up on and I think you can do that on the
00:31:18
legislative the actual legislator site.
00:31:22
Can't you you can follow the bills like get email updates and
00:31:25
stuff like that. Yeah you say account you can
00:31:27
follow the I get emails say hey, they've been Signed a committee
00:31:31
where the Pinot with the votes were.
00:31:34
If they've been amended all of that stuff, that's important, if
00:31:37
you want to be ahead of it and call in and stuff like that, you
00:31:40
can certainly follow. There's plenty of ways to follow
00:31:42
these bills. Cool, Jonathan, any thoughts on
00:31:47
this bill? Or It just Echoes Cynthia was
00:31:51
saying a lot of the concerns of privacy issues.
00:31:56
I may have some of the specifics off here but I believe it would
00:32:00
have everybody opt-in automatically or it would be an
00:32:04
opt-out system. So, any kind of vaccination that
00:32:06
your child got, I mean it may be for adults to, you would
00:32:10
automatically be in the system. You couldn't choose to not be in
00:32:13
the system and then the school would be able to automatically
00:32:16
download that not just for the required vaccines, but they can
00:32:18
look at your history for any vaccines.
00:32:20
And so there was a big privacy concern there and it's a very
00:32:23
difficult once the data is in, to try to get your data out,
00:32:26
there's been a lot of issues already for that.
00:32:30
And so that's the biggest issue. Now, the reason they introduced
00:32:32
this bill was because I think they were expecting a mandate of
00:32:34
covid. Vaccines.
00:32:35
And the intent was to make it easier on school districts to
00:32:40
verify vaccination status of the covid.
00:32:43
Vaccine, by implementing this data, to the puts everybody
00:32:47
forces, everybody's information to get in and getting Access to
00:32:51
it forever, you know, an easier format and downloadable because
00:32:55
it's might be cumbersome, right? It was cumbersome right now to
00:32:58
get the covid data for many school districts that we're
00:33:01
trying to implement their own backpacks.
00:33:03
Me actually mandate No we've all been unfortunately.
00:33:08
Take all those other bills are dead.
00:33:09
So this is more just turn into a privacy issue than it does
00:33:13
anything else? So you think it's taken all.
00:33:15
It's lost a lot of teeth. Now that a lot of the other
00:33:17
covid bills have sort of went by the wayside.
00:33:20
Yeah, it was, it was part of the solving.
00:33:21
A problem is that was part of the whole, you know, vaccine
00:33:25
work group of trying to make the whole vaccine mandates covid,
00:33:29
vaccine minutes and schools easier.
00:33:30
So, I want to say takes the teeth out, it still has the
00:33:33
same, privacy concerns still sailing through.
00:33:35
Through the committee's, unfortunately, but the risk of
00:33:40
how it will be used is give me more just broad-based privacy as
00:33:43
opposed to, you know, how are we going to, you know, force force,
00:33:48
kids to be vaccinated and to be able to easily identify that and
00:33:51
exclude them right away type of thing?
00:33:54
And the vaccine work group is for.
00:33:58
It's sort of this gang right here, right?
00:34:01
It's the achille Weber Richard pan, it's got winner, all of
00:34:04
them. Have like we said at the
00:34:06
beginning, they're sort of the ones who were pushing a lot of
00:34:09
these covid bills in the beginning.
00:34:11
Like the whole slot is the ringleader of that, he formed a
00:34:16
group protect us which is a political organization, a separ
00:34:20
not-for-profit but Social social welfare group, we don't know
00:34:27
where the money's coming from up for that organization.
00:34:30
But he's running that and it makes it appear that there's a
00:34:33
third party helping all these bills.
00:34:34
It's frankly just pan and either him funny in it or people who
00:34:39
find him funding it. Well, I'm sure you could have a
00:34:42
couple guesses. I'm sure you'd figure out where
00:34:44
the money's coming from when it comes to Richard pan.
00:34:47
So, one bill, I want to talk about I believe It's this one.
00:34:57
Yes, is SB 8 34? Which is no surprise.
00:35:02
It's a Scott wiener bill and it's got a lot of co-authors to
00:35:06
Buffy Wicks. Josh Newman.
00:35:09
No surprise. But basically this bill and it
00:35:15
would allow the state of California to revoke a non
00:35:19
profits tax exempt, status for, if they were the organization
00:35:26
was founded. To be inciting treason
00:35:28
Insurrection. So it is seditious conspiracy or
00:35:31
Insurrection. So the abstract says, this bill
00:35:37
would authorize the Attorney General to make a finding that a
00:35:40
tax exempt organization has actively engaged in or incited.
00:35:43
The active engagement in Acts or conspiracies to find as criminal
00:35:48
under specified for a law and likely produce imminent
00:35:50
violation of that federal law. So what they're basically doing
00:35:55
is I think this is their January 6 bill that they're trying to
00:35:59
do, which is punished, any sort of nonprofit that may have been
00:36:04
engaged in citing any sort of an Insurrection.
00:36:07
I'm not sure whether or not there's going to be any due
00:36:13
process with a bill like this, whether it's going to be sort of
00:36:16
like a red flag law, where we take away your tax exempt,
00:36:19
status, and then you have to figure out how to get it back
00:36:21
but This is again, one of those like, political Witch Hunt
00:36:25
bills, led by Scott, weiner, who believes I'm going to punish all
00:36:28
these nonprofits. The one thing I'm afraid of with
00:36:32
with any bill in California is that it's going to be abused by
00:36:37
somebody at some point and some nonprofits going to lose their
00:36:41
tax-exempt status just because Democrats don't like them where
00:36:45
they feel like they want to knock them out from being a
00:36:47
non-profit. So Where is it at as of June
00:36:52
28th, due passes, amended and re-referred to the committee on
00:36:55
Appropriations. So that's where it's at right
00:36:58
now. If you are a non-profit out
00:37:00
there and they figure out, they think you might have been
00:37:04
inciting Insurrection or treason or whatever claim they want to
00:37:08
throw at you. That's, that's the issue.
00:37:12
You could be facing. So I personally think this bill
00:37:17
is pretty benign, just with how it's written.
00:37:20
The pain did not provide a single example and could not
00:37:24
provide a single example, of what organization would have
00:37:27
been impacted in California from this bill, right?
00:37:30
There's usually, when you pass a law, there's a, there's a
00:37:32
particular case, like a having this crazy thing happened.
00:37:35
We got up. You gotta make it illegal, there
00:37:37
wasn't an example, it is. I think he's doing it to just
00:37:39
make it seem like he could put on his resume that he passed a
00:37:41
bill, you know, to fight Insurrection.
00:37:44
No, generate six instructions for stuff.
00:37:47
So, you know, then when you look at the language, there's there's
00:37:49
already Ready like Federal preemption issues, you know,
00:37:52
it's your tax status is based at the federal level so they can't
00:37:57
take that away. It's about federal laws and you
00:38:00
know, you talk about due process of the Attorney General's is
00:38:02
going to make a finding as opposed to having, you know,
00:38:05
your conviction or normal due process of going through the
00:38:08
courts, it is an idiotic bill. I don't think it's ever going to
00:38:10
be used against anybody. And if they do, I think they
00:38:13
would immediately creative challenge that and winning
00:38:16
Court. Unless of course, you actually
00:38:19
were convicted At the federal level of some sort of
00:38:21
insurrection. And then you have a valid may be
00:38:24
valid case, but I think losing your tasks tax-exempt.
00:38:27
Status is probably the least of your worries if you're convicted
00:38:30
of instruction. It's a good point.
00:38:33
Yeah, so you're saying that California, drafted a bill that
00:38:38
has a patil Ian legal issues already facing it as soon as it
00:38:43
gets past, is that? Yes, correct and may not ever be
00:38:47
used just because it's so absurd.
00:38:48
Yeah. So it seems like It was written
00:38:50
by like a 5th grader as opposed to people who are actually in
00:38:53
charge of writing our laws, which is, it seems that way.
00:38:59
It seems, they write a lot of these laws, Just For The Virtue
00:39:02
signal and the, the ability to go out on Twitter and say, oh,
00:39:07
look at this great bill. It's kind of like, who's the
00:39:11
who's the young Alex League The Young assemblyman from?
00:39:15
Yeah. The Bay Area AOC 2.0.
00:39:19
Yeah, he's an AOC. Why does he still live with his
00:39:22
mom? I wouldn't let them hit them.
00:39:25
He's like 23 years old, so he hasn't really hit the real world
00:39:27
yet or what however old he is. But I feel like a lot of this
00:39:31
stuff he does is very symbolic and virtue signaling.
00:39:36
Like, he doesn't understand what goes into it.
00:39:38
He doesn't understand the legal ramifications.
00:39:40
He's just like I'm going to pass this bill and it's going to
00:39:43
sound great on Twitter in my 140 characters and people will love
00:39:47
me for it. So, That could be most of our
00:39:50
California legislature. Sadly.
00:39:53
Yeah I think each legislator has 40 bills that can introduce each
00:39:57
session. I'm a favorite lotion lower that
00:40:00
like five and get rid of a lot of this nonsense.
00:40:04
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:05
It does seem like there's a lot of bills.
00:40:07
Like you don't have to just pass bills to pass bills and I think
00:40:11
that's one thing that maybe Sacramento could ease up on a
00:40:14
little bit. It feels like there is a deluge
00:40:16
of an enormous amount Bills that come through every year, it may
00:40:21
be Jonathan. You mean, you know, a little bit
00:40:23
more about the process of how all these bills are sort of
00:40:26
introduced all it wants and it sort of like a race to how many
00:40:29
you can get past that a certain point.
00:40:31
And it just seems like there's hundreds and hundreds of bills
00:40:33
that all drop it once and everybody's gotta kind of like
00:40:37
rummage through them. At the beginning of the year.
00:40:39
Is that correct? Or am I way off?
00:40:41
Yes, kind of like, you know, sure, people in the political
00:40:44
world of sin. It's a it's different seasons of
00:40:47
politics, right? So, the first of the year is
00:40:50
pretty well, just with all the bills that drop and a lot of
00:40:54
them are placeholder bills. You know, expecting stuff to
00:40:57
come like, 918 was like that. It was they had some of the
00:41:00
language drafted, but they're just waiting until the Supreme
00:41:03
Court decisions and then they just got an amended and people
00:41:10
can introduce bills later on through the legislation
00:41:12
legislative process through the session throughout the year,
00:41:15
right? Yes.
00:41:18
But there are certain rules which are the rules can always
00:41:21
be suspended, that prevent a lot of that from happening.
00:41:24
And usually, those kind of situations are reserved for,
00:41:27
like, very, you know, what the color urgent things and I mean,
00:41:30
SCA 10, I think was one of those right after the Supreme Court,
00:41:34
such a situation would overturn Roe v-- Wade.
00:41:37
California response was to pass a constitutional amendment to
00:41:41
ban our to, to quote and try an abortion into the Constitution.
00:41:46
With very vague language that leaves the door open to allowing
00:41:49
abortions all the way up through birth.
00:41:52
And so it was very, you know, you have two sides of it.
00:41:56
Basically was poorly written poorly executed, and I actually
00:42:00
think the Democrats may have shot themselves in the foot on
00:42:02
that one. And that may not actually pass
00:42:05
in November, but we'll see. See what the outcome is, what
00:42:09
that? But that was an example of one
00:42:11
that they brought up later in session.
00:42:12
I mean if we wanted I'm just kind of sorry.
00:42:16
Go ahead Cynthia. No, it's okay.
00:42:21
I have room talk. My one piece about reforms for
00:42:24
the legislature. I wish that.
00:42:26
Actually, to be honest, I wish this.
00:42:29
The position was part-time because then these people
00:42:32
wouldn't like depend on this, you know, for their livelihood
00:42:35
and, you know, for their, their Fame and their ladder climbing
00:42:39
and their political career. I also wish that That there were
00:42:43
more Representatives because you know, 80 people, we have like
00:42:47
the third largest economy in the world like I just think that's
00:42:50
insane. And then the other the last
00:42:52
pieces I also wish like we're talking about like bills.
00:42:57
I wish these people that would actually make a difference.
00:43:01
I would want to know like their calendars.
00:43:04
Like, I don't know specifics. Right.
00:43:07
Because I know that it's privacy but like for example like if an
00:43:10
assembly member like, if they An excused absence, or it was not
00:43:14
excused where they in a committee meeting just, like,
00:43:18
basic things like that. So, we could just kind of, so we
00:43:20
could just know, like, you know where representatives are again,
00:43:23
I only know specifics. I don't need to know if they're
00:43:25
at like a dentist appointment, or they had a family death.
00:43:28
Like, I don't even know that, but I just would like to know.
00:43:31
Like, for example, if we look at the votes, why weren't they
00:43:35
there at the meeting? That's all.
00:43:36
That's my piece on that things that I think would make the
00:43:39
legislature better. Yeah, I agree with that.
00:43:44
It goes to whole point of having too many pills.
00:43:47
It's really frustrating that you you get a witness.
00:43:50
It does a great job on opposition or say in favor of a
00:43:54
bill to have the hearing room completely empty, right.
00:43:59
And then they come back at the very end people show up in the
00:44:02
last 10 minutes. They all vote on bills that even
00:44:04
here and listen, not even paying attention to.
00:44:07
And it's just so frustrating that our legislators just have
00:44:10
so much that they can't give focused actually Determine if
00:44:13
this is a good bill or not. Yeah, go on Fell service,
00:44:17
letting something definitely needs to be a lot more
00:44:21
representative. I think, I definitely see a lot
00:44:23
more assembly members. I think there should be, Senator
00:44:26
should be two from each County. I think California is so big.
00:44:30
It could be almost like its own country.
00:44:33
In the sense that we have such big counties, they're like our
00:44:35
own little States. We should get two per County,
00:44:39
why not? And I think that would be fair,
00:44:41
especially for red counties. There's a lot to fix and Also
00:44:45
think their salary needs to be greatly reduced as well.
00:44:48
I don't think they need to be living high on the hog as much
00:44:51
as they do and make it part time and see how many people flock to
00:44:55
being a legislature if they're not going to be paid full-time
00:44:58
and six figures. So I don't think people would be
00:45:04
rushing to do it but the one thing I was going to say though,
00:45:08
this wasn't really on our legislator round up but Jonathan
00:45:11
brought up a good point which is with SCA tan that is technically
00:45:16
part of the legislature has proposed this Constitutional
00:45:19
Amendment, enshrining the right to abortion even though there
00:45:23
are laws that do protect the right to abortion.
00:45:28
I think this I kind of agree with you.
00:45:31
I think this might be an overreach.
00:45:32
I think it may not be the slam dunk that they think it is.
00:45:36
And I think the more people look at it and the more people
00:45:40
question it and poke and prod at it, I think you made it, you may
00:45:43
be surprised how many voters you turn off because of this
00:45:46
amendment. And I think I talked about this
00:45:49
recently, maybe it was last week about how you may turn off
00:45:54
certain demographics of the voters, you may turn off.
00:45:57
Hispanic voters may have turn off Asian-American voters.
00:45:59
Us who are not necessarily super liberal or Progressive on the
00:46:04
idea of proportion who were more religious.
00:46:05
So I would agree on that, that they may have overstepped their
00:46:09
and, and shot themselves in the foot on SCA 10.
00:46:14
And I want to emphasize is now proposition.
00:46:17
Go ahead, no, go ahead, drop it. This is I was just going to say
00:46:21
that was officially proposition one.
00:46:23
So everyone in other voters and they going to hear about it from
00:46:25
now on is probably going to be propped one prop 1A.
00:46:29
The abortion and yeah I just want to emphasize its abortion
00:46:35
up to the point of birth for and you don't have to give a reason
00:46:39
for. That is literally what the bill
00:46:40
says. I just want to make that known
00:46:43
because our attorney general is going to have a field day on
00:46:46
trying to, you know, manipulate the text.
00:46:49
But I just want it to be known on this program that prop one.
00:46:53
It's abortion for any reason up to the point of birth and that
00:46:58
is all Does it have a title yet prop 1?
00:47:05
Not not yet. I don't know if it was, I don't
00:47:08
think. I imagine that the Attorney
00:47:10
General's going to give us some flowery language of like
00:47:12
protecting women's bodily Integrity or women's rights or
00:47:17
something. He'll be, it will be like the
00:47:18
most wonderful title in the world and very restrictive on
00:47:22
what the opposition can write. I'm sure they'll be some Court
00:47:26
battles. Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:47:28
I mean, another one of the downfalls of having Oh, no.
00:47:33
I was just going to say that go ahead.
00:47:34
Some guys, you guys actually bring up a good point too
00:47:37
because like, for the 2020 cycle, I think out of like the
00:47:41
11 or 12 propositions that we have on the ballot, like eight
00:47:44
of them that the California Republican party endorses, like,
00:47:47
actually the voters, a great web.
00:47:49
So I think you guys bring up a good point that.
00:47:52
Like, even though, yeah, we are mostly Democrat here in
00:47:55
California, but maybe there is some hope in like a threshold
00:48:00
that like, even the Liberals like, Like this is a bit much.
00:48:04
So I think it will be very interesting to see how this
00:48:06
works out in November. Yeah, and and again, that's been
00:48:11
too much time on Prop one, but it it I did put a pull together
00:48:15
and I think it should be about messaging.
00:48:16
So put a Twitter poll, which isn't scientific, but I posted
00:48:20
it on as many liberal journalists that were at viral
00:48:26
tweets about it on, on those threats.
00:48:29
So that way I can try to get Fair representation, I didn't
00:48:32
want it to just be people who followed me.
00:48:34
And it basically asked that question posing as a, hey,
00:48:37
existing law allows Orson through 24 weeks for any reason
00:48:42
and after that for the life of the mother, SCA 10 would open
00:48:45
the doors to allow birth for any reason through birth, will you
00:48:49
support it? And I want to say like 42
00:48:51
percent said yes. So it was mostly rejected.
00:48:55
Like if that was it was pretty interesting.
00:48:59
How many people rejected it? And it is interesting.
00:49:03
How here in California? Everyone thinks we're as kooky
00:49:07
as possible, but when you look at proposition specifically
00:49:11
Californians, do seem to vote center right on a lot of
00:49:14
propositions, you know, it's almost like you look at it and
00:49:17
go, you would think a lot of this stuff would pass
00:49:19
overwhelmingly, but there's a lot of stuff that was voted down
00:49:23
in the last time around that people are like, I thought that
00:49:26
would definitely put nope, didn't doesn't pass here in
00:49:28
California. The affirmative action was one
00:49:31
obviously. Taxes are always voted down
00:49:33
property, taxes always voted down stuff like that.
00:49:36
So I'll be interested to see if there's a message or a shot
00:49:40
across the bow. That this was not a good idea.
00:49:42
They may have overstepped their boundaries with prop one but We
00:49:48
could talk about abortion all night but that's not the point
00:49:51
of Tonight Show. Who's up next?
00:49:54
I think Jonathan you're up next. I think I just did last one so
00:49:58
all right. Yeah.
00:49:59
Let's talk about 1479 that is the covid testing bill.
00:50:04
That's currently testing, is working dip.
00:50:08
What was it? 1479 1479 SP.
00:50:14
Yeah. This is a bill that I personally
00:50:17
have testified twice at an office opposition as the lead
00:50:20
witness. I've worked with others as lead.
00:50:23
Witness opposing this bill And this bill is likely to pass.
00:50:29
However, it is going to be water down quite a bit, so this bill
00:50:35
required. It was going to require every
00:50:39
school district had to assign have at least one person that
00:50:42
they hired for this liaison or covid, person covid, testing
00:50:45
person. It would require every school.
00:50:48
District had a plan to be in compliance with cdph.
00:50:51
It would also be contingent on any kind of federal funding
00:50:54
allocated. This of, as well, as any state
00:50:58
funding, and it's just, it's been watered out.
00:51:02
So, we were able to get some other groups that were opposing.
00:51:06
This bill. We were able to get the
00:51:07
California school board a minute or Association of California.
00:51:12
School administrators ASCA. I think it is basically those
00:51:15
who represent California school administrators.
00:51:17
They opposed it because there's going to be a burden on them and
00:51:22
they were able to. It hasn't shown up yet in the
00:51:24
language, but it looks like they can agree to these amendments
00:51:28
which would eliminate the requirement for them to hire
00:51:31
somebody. It would put more of the onus of
00:51:34
any kind of program on. Cdph, we look at the governor's
00:51:38
budget. There's just not a lot of budget
00:51:40
to require testing. I mean they and their budget
00:51:43
really was pushing these over-the-counter tests.
00:51:46
So I imagine the play and I've already seen the testing plan
00:51:49
from cdph, for next year, it doesn't require testing it, just
00:51:53
it pushes making testing available.
00:51:56
And so these plans are probably just going to be every School
00:51:59
site is going to have to have these over-the-counter that
00:52:03
antigen test the rapid tests available to students.
00:52:06
So that way, if they're sick, they can offer them.
00:52:08
If teachers want to take one they'll have to have them on
00:52:11
site so teachers can take them if they feel like it and I think
00:52:14
that's going to be the extent of what happens.
00:52:16
The other benefit the other Amendment that's happening is
00:52:18
it's going to Sunset after three years.
00:52:20
That was another concern, like how long are we going to be
00:52:22
dealing with this? We're just going to put this in
00:52:24
the legislation. The As law and not ever since
00:52:29
ever. And so those are some things I
00:52:32
wish it was not going to pass. It looks like it's going to pass
00:52:35
but it's heavily watered down and it's not going to have an
00:52:38
impact that we were worried about.
00:52:39
That's going to ultimately may have cdph required covid.
00:52:41
Testing at school So basically a paper tiger.
00:52:46
Would you say like at this point of this bill?
00:52:50
Yeah. I mean it's not going to they
00:52:53
don't even need to pass this bill.
00:52:54
Honestly. They could have just done if the
00:52:56
budget and imagine both schools would comply.
00:53:00
If these are say hey we're going to give you all this money for
00:53:02
testing CD creatures. Going to have this program.
00:53:05
Only thing is they have to have a formal plan and I don't know
00:53:10
how complicated that's going to be, probably very basic.
00:53:14
Okay, so as long as cdph doesn't change, course some say, oh now
00:53:18
we ever going to change or some say we're going to require
00:53:21
testing, that's always still a possibility.
00:53:23
But based off the budget and CD pictures, intentions for next
00:53:26
year we're not seeing that. Is it just that those because it
00:53:31
has sort of slow down? One thing?
00:53:35
I wonder how much of this these covid bills have just kind of
00:53:39
lost steam because covid has really kind of subsided.
00:53:44
Our society and how much it's just kind of like it may have
00:53:47
been. Maybe these were introduced, we
00:53:49
all thought it was this big still a big scare, but it just
00:53:52
seems like we've kind of moved on in society from covid.
00:53:56
So a lot of these bills just kind of getting watered down or
00:53:58
they're just not getting the votes that they need and people
00:54:01
just don't want to deal with the controversy.
00:54:02
Is that or is that something that's?
00:54:04
That makes sense. Yeah, I think so.
00:54:07
I think timing was not Advanced favor, he had to wait until
00:54:11
January. Like so we talked about this
00:54:13
cycle to Reduce some of these bills and you know he what I
00:54:17
don't think Newsome wanted a past eight.
00:54:19
Didn't want him to introduce 871.
00:54:21
For example, he did it anyway and it was the he was thinking
00:54:26
I've got to push this through because they were peeking and
00:54:28
covid right now. It's January.
00:54:28
But the time these are hurt, we knew that covid-19, you know,
00:54:32
the rates were going to subside. We see, you know, cases are
00:54:35
higher than they were last summer yet, we're not doing
00:54:37
anything. I mean the vaccines were
00:54:39
available to everyone 12 and older last summer covid.
00:54:42
Higher last. Yeah, we have way more
00:54:45
restrictions last year, mmm. So they can tell you, the
00:54:49
temperament is not good book doesn't look, good politically.
00:54:52
They don't want to focus on this because they recognize hey there
00:54:55
really isn't anything. We can do at this point and so
00:54:59
something that we have to learn to live with and I think you're
00:55:01
right, the appetizers fallen and so we're not going to get the
00:55:04
most complicated ones. And there is one bill that is
00:55:06
still scary that's left. I would say you know this one I
00:55:10
don't want it to pass but it's not as critical not passing a A
00:55:15
SB 866. If we still haven't addressed
00:55:18
yet, let's jump right into it since we got a couple more
00:55:21
minutes left him as well. Good segue?
00:55:25
Yeah, side note. It's the same cast of
00:55:27
characters. The same words can all agree.
00:55:30
That is always pushing this. So what's the number SP 866.
00:55:35
That's be 866. Okay, I got this up here.
00:55:39
All right. Who wants to hop a driving one
00:55:42
chat about this one yesterday. Yeah, so this bill initially
00:55:46
would have required are allowed. Anybody?
00:55:49
12 and older are 12 through 17 to get any vaccine without
00:55:56
parental consent. And right now state law allows
00:56:02
HPV, I think it's HPV. Hepatitis because they're under
00:56:05
the category of of STD prevention that you can still
00:56:10
get those vaccines without parental consent.
00:56:14
This specific issue with this one is covid-19, it's all
00:56:17
vaccines, but covid-19 Target. As we look at how covid vaccines
00:56:22
were generally administered to youth, there's lots of problems,
00:56:25
right? Most of the vaccines weren't
00:56:27
done at your doctor's office with your primary care, provider
00:56:29
most and in many cases their incentives Financial incentives,
00:56:34
Pizza gift cards. New shoes, right?
00:56:37
Other done on campus that some school sites.
00:56:42
They are done by individuals that had temporary permission to
00:56:46
do it. So a nursing student, you know,
00:56:49
could be, you know, you could be a brand new nursing student and
00:56:51
just go through. I think like, I don't know, line
00:56:54
training is very basic training and then you can then
00:56:57
administer, this vaccine front for Coca and so this would
00:57:01
remove parent involvement. At all for any vaccine.
00:57:05
But the concern is just how covid-19 ministered if there are
00:57:09
men. It's like okay only if it was
00:57:11
done by your primary care provider or if you had another
00:57:13
adult that can watch over you and look for adverse reactions
00:57:15
there may have been some more support he didn't wasn't
00:57:18
interested in that it went through committee.
00:57:20
It got to the I think it past the not in the Senate.
00:57:26
I think you can pass the Senate, I think we could maybe take a
00:57:29
look at the history of it. I don't recall.
00:57:30
I think it was in the assembly. Yeah, and he went through the
00:57:34
Senate went through all the all the committee's and assembly and
00:57:37
then on the it's been listed on the assembly floor as a
00:57:41
potential vote for a while has been brought up because he
00:57:44
doesn't have the votes at the past on the floor.
00:57:47
So he issued an amendment to up the age from 12 or he accept an
00:57:52
amendment that I think Wicks but through that would move from 12
00:57:56
Years to 15 years. So it would just it would make
00:58:00
it maybe a little bit less controversial because it's
00:58:01
older. It is weird that he picked 15.
00:58:04
Years because there's still another issue in that he
00:58:07
contends. That it allows versions with
00:58:10
authorization vaccine without consent.
00:58:13
That's not the bill language says, there's no such that
00:58:16
doesn't say. It was uses federally approved
00:58:19
and that's a very distinct language.
00:58:20
So there's even argument that the 15 open it because there is
00:58:24
a federally approved for 60 and older but not for under 16 and
00:58:29
so it, I don't why he chose 15, honestly, if I was him I would
00:58:33
have put it at 60 But I feel like he's just trying to push
00:58:35
the limits as much as possible. I felt like as a compromised, it
00:58:38
didn't come up through this last through the end of June so it
00:58:43
might come up in August but I would say that it's if I had to
00:58:47
guess this one won't pass the assembly, I don't think he has
00:58:50
the votes for it. I don't give it 100%, it still
00:58:53
could, but that's the most opposition is probably the most
00:58:56
dangerous Bill attacking parental rights.
00:58:59
Just the approach that you know, that they're taking and it's the
00:59:03
stuff. Policy.
00:59:05
And so I think I'm hopeful that one more pass and it's probably
00:59:08
the worst one that's left. So when it says in actions order
00:59:13
to third reading at what point of the process is a reading.
00:59:18
What does that mean for? So I can don't recall, I think
00:59:21
it has to just basically be printed for a three-day at three
00:59:26
different times for two votes. Just give, I think I believe if
00:59:29
I understand that correctly it's to give legislators enough time
00:59:31
to read it. Which I don't think actually
00:59:35
read them. So but like I said, every day,
00:59:39
every level, every assembly floor session.
00:59:41
Since the 16th, it's been eligible to be brought up for a
00:59:45
vote and it hasn't been brought up.
00:59:47
And so that could be a Rendon is not letting it come up.
00:59:51
It could be. That wiener knows he doesn't
00:59:52
have the votes. So he's not going to bring it up
00:59:54
until he thinks he has the votes.
00:59:57
And in any any wind that we think it's going to be heard.
01:00:00
I can tell you, there's been massive a calls to Offices.
01:00:05
Now a days, even when with your committee, there are some
01:00:08
Democrats that Mansion for one was an example.
01:00:11
He voted no to pass it in committee which is surprising.
01:00:16
So he's going to be, you know, there's been a few
01:00:18
Representatives Democrat Pat, Patrick O'Donnell has come out
01:00:22
publicly against it. There's a few other Democrats
01:00:24
that have publicly come out against Amy 66.
01:00:27
So I imagine it, it's probably not going to pass or if it does
01:00:31
it's can barely passed. And then there's Courtney court
01:00:35
issues, you know, can be challenged.
01:00:36
I think there's already groups planning on suing if it passes
01:00:42
Well, it keeps lawyers busy a lot of these bells, that's for
01:00:44
sure. There's always plenty to do and
01:00:48
you have a legislature that likes to pass these types of
01:00:50
bills. Yeah, I think it is might be
01:00:53
another one that because covid is subsiding and societies kind
01:00:57
of moving on from it. It doesn't have.
01:01:00
I don't even think this really had the steam going into when it
01:01:05
was introduced. I think it kind of ruffled
01:01:07
parents the wrong way, that And you nailed it on the head which
01:01:12
is there are ways that people kind of bribe or entice minors
01:01:18
to get the vaccine and if they have the ability to do it on
01:01:21
their own, let's have a piece of party and let's give away stuff
01:01:25
and gift cards and if you get the vaccine this isn't like a
01:01:28
blood drive. Where if you do blood drive?
01:01:30
We give you a Rubio's, fish, taco coupon or something like
01:01:33
that. It's yeah, absolutely.
01:01:38
So it's not like you can you can That honor.
01:01:41
So I think this might be another one.
01:01:43
That's kind of losing steam. It may be a little too
01:01:45
controversial, and they'll definitely be enough parent on
01:01:50
social media organizing getting calls to action, who will be
01:01:54
sending out the call to action blowing, the horn of War, to be
01:01:58
blowing up their legislative offices.
01:02:00
And I don't think they really want that because I think When
01:02:06
it comes to a lot of these bills there may be some who are fine
01:02:09
with the heat. I'm not sure every one of them
01:02:12
is fine with the heat and especially local politicians
01:02:15
like this. And I don't think a lot of these
01:02:18
politicians planned on being so well-known or getting so much
01:02:22
attention being in the state legislature.
01:02:25
But now they're getting a lot of attention and they may not like
01:02:27
having so much attention but that's just my own personal
01:02:31
theory that goes up and down from State.
01:02:34
Are all the way down to your city council.
01:02:36
I think people a lot of these politicians.
01:02:37
They plan on being so in the spotlight but covid kind of
01:02:41
thrust them all into the spotlight.
01:02:47
Opportunity to do that. Probably.
01:02:52
Yeah, I think some of them definitely.
01:02:54
I mean Scott weiner is definitely one who he knows he
01:02:58
can get away with wild stuff. Evan low is another one, who
01:03:01
knows? He can get away with wild stuff.
01:03:04
He'll face literally no repercussions.
01:03:06
Richard pans on his way out. Alex, Lee Buffy, Wicks is
01:03:10
another one. She's from Oakland area, so
01:03:13
she's going to face no repercussions.
01:03:15
So there, Yeah, she's in a pretty strong District down here
01:03:22
in San Diego. So, you know, there's a lot of
01:03:24
these Democrats are in strong districts who know they're not
01:03:26
going to get any blowback especially from people in their
01:03:30
Community or in their their District.
01:03:33
So they just go ahead and do it doesn't mean that everyone else
01:03:36
in the assembly or in the Senate loves the fact that these couple
01:03:40
loud politicians are bringing on a lot of heat and controversy
01:03:45
for for their normal day job. So Was there any other last bill
01:03:51
that we want to get to? We've been here about an hour?
01:03:53
Jonathan's very busy man, I don't want to keep them, he has
01:03:56
been doing a lot of work so any last bill before we sign off for
01:04:01
the evening there's just two blasts to honor list.
01:04:07
I don't think that there's any major updates, we just kind of
01:04:10
share like where they are in the committee.
01:04:12
So the first one is SB 13. 90 it's censoring you on social
01:04:16
media for so-called misinformation Shannon.
01:04:21
I believe the remaining two bills on almost dead 1390.
01:04:25
I haven't seen an official statement but it went nowhere.
01:04:32
Okay, and I met a lot of. Imagine this would be a lot of
01:04:35
backlash from social media companies because it's a pretty
01:04:38
heavy regulation. Yep.
01:04:39
Yeah, distance, not it back in February and it didn't go.
01:04:43
And look, Richard pan, all by himself, another one.
01:04:46
He struck out on all by himself. Yeah, the last time is sp 1920s,
01:04:52
is a medical board of California.
01:04:54
Could inspect businesses and Physicians and patient records.
01:05:01
Cats, pull that one and and Hurtado issued a statement on
01:05:05
that one that she pulled the bill.
01:05:07
Yeah, so that's another Dead one.
01:05:10
Cool. Yeah.
01:05:12
And she is the lone author and that's basically it for our
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legislative will round up. Great.
01:05:19
Well, I guess we kind of covered everything we want to cover
01:05:22
tonight. I don't know if there'll be any
01:05:24
more legislative roundups. We need to do this year.
01:05:27
If there is, we'll definitely have Jonathan back.
01:05:30
We could definitely have them. Talk more about propositions as
01:05:33
well. I mean he's a smart guy, we can
01:05:35
have them on to really talk about anything.
01:05:36
It doesn't just have to be legislative stuff, could be
01:05:39
educational stuff so Jonathan where can people come and find
01:05:45
you and support you and your cause Yes.
01:05:49
On Twitter, there's two places in for reopen, California
01:05:52
schools, it's a tree Open Sea, a schools or my personal Twitter
01:05:56
that gives beyond the education aspect.
01:05:58
So you can see more, you know, my broader positions on things
01:06:03
that is at the J is a course in. So at Jay-Z ACH are eson.
01:06:08
You can also find a reopen California schools on Facebook,
01:06:12
just search for reopen, California schools and I believe
01:06:14
it's the same, you know, group idea, which is a trio.
01:06:19
RCA, schools are excellent. And Cynthia.
01:06:22
Where can people find you? I know you're always on Twitter
01:06:25
tweeting away, so where can people find you?
01:06:27
Yeah, so my name is pretty unique you can find me on
01:06:31
Cynthia, Crowley cynthiadawne2. Same is khaliq aui, you can find
01:06:37
me on all the social media like Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,
01:06:43
Excellent. Well, that's it for tonight's
01:06:45
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