Sheriff Bianco Jumps Into Governor's Race

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[00:00:59] Good. We had just seen each other. We were at the Bianco announcement, which we're going to get to in a little bit. But first, we are doing something a little bit different for a cringe moment of the week. We are not doing a video. We are not doing a video. You had sent this to me a couple hours ago. And I just, this is one of those cases where you look at it and go, I can't believe, well, I can believe it because it's California. And I can believe this absolutely something.

[00:01:28] It's so entertaining to me. It is. But before we get started, make sure you subscribe, like share all that stuff helps with the algorithm if you're watching on YouTube. So we had made a joke about a year or so ago that an assemblyman came up with a proposal to name a official milkshake in California because that's important. We need to have an official milkshake in California.

[00:01:59] But there's something new that they want to add to the list of official things. If you didn't know, there's already 42 official state symbols. I'm going to read off some of them. Okay. Some of them, I'm sure you already know these, like the bear flag is the official state flag of the entire state, right? You know, the one with the bear on it. Okay. Eureka is the official state motto. Didn't know that, but that makes sense.

[00:02:28] The golden state is the official nickname, right? Okay. I mean, isn't that right behind me? That's a lot with Eureka. Makes sense. Eureka, gold rush. This is where it gets a little bit more interesting. The Augustinophilus marisi is the official state dinosaur. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah. Uh, did you know we have a official state marine reptile?

[00:02:54] I didn't know the Pacific leather backseat. I mean, I've raised here all these things. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. I have an excuse. I moved here, you know, 10 years ago. I don't know all this stuff. I didn't, I wasn't born and raised in California. So I, and I didn't go to California school. I'm going to have to go study this one. I'm going to teach my kids this. Like, uh, the Dungeness crab is the official state crustacean. Okay.

[00:03:19] And our official state fabric is denim. Oh, so at our state flowers, poppy. And yeah, I learned that the hard way one time. Um, we did not get an official state slug that they, they did. They tried. We talked about that on previous episodes. They tried that. They tried the banana slug. Banana slug. It, I guess it didn't pass.

[00:03:42] And the banana slug is found, um, predominantly like around the Redwoods, I guess, which if you know California or is it Sequoias, we have those. That that's a big thing in California. So, so I understand that that makes sense of why that would be our slug. I don't know why we need a state slug, but if we do, yes, I agree. The banana slug fits right in.

[00:04:07] And also the yellow gold color of it goes along with the whole golden theme or the golden state as displayed. We can't really see it right now, but it's often like above your head. It's like a halo. It's like the golden state. Oh yeah. Yep. My background, but not to be outdone. Are you ready for this? Oh, I I've been ready since I found this a couple hours ago.

[00:04:33] They, uh, an assemblyman by the name of Chris Rogers in Santa Rosa wants to designate an official state cryptid. And that cryptid. Well, first off, a cryptid is a creature whose reported existence is unproven. So he wants to designate Bigfoot as the official state cryptid. And this is assembly bill six, six, six, six. Um, More on that.

[00:05:02] I'm not going to say, I mean, is it coincidence that six, six, six, and he wants to do Bigfoot, but, but that's what we're spending our time on. This is what legislators are focused on is, uh, naming Bigfoot as our official state cryptid in California is if we don't have enough official things. And this is what legislators should be, uh, spending our time on, which we've discussed before. And I may be unpopular because we have friends of the show who are assemblymen,

[00:05:29] uh, and assembly women and senators and stuff like that. But I, this is reason like 537, why we need a part-time legislature in California. Okay. And I know everyone's going to say, Oh, but it's a fifth largest economy. How can you do? I'm like, look, most of the stuff that these legislators are doing has nothing to do with us being the fifth largest economy. Like there's no reason for it. And this is example number 1000 of why we don't need legislators.

[00:05:59] To have an unlimited. You said 537. Now it's a reason. It's well, it's, that's how fast it moves in Sacramento is that every second. It's just, they just keep adding more and more reasons why there should be a part-time legislature. Reason 570 to 1000. Why? Yeah, it is. This is laughable. Um, this is what they're spending their time on. And this is what we're paying taxpayer salaries for is so that they can name Bigfoot as the official state cryptid.

[00:06:25] I actually think that a lot of the assembly members would agree with you that it should be a part-time position. And also we've talked about, there should be a cap on how many bills they can, uh, author. And this is a good example of that. And something we've talked about is like, I, I forget how many bills, what 1500, 2000 a year that go to Newsom's desk. And then about just under a thousand actually get signed into law.

[00:06:53] And some of them are so ridiculous and it's like, okay, that's another law. It's another law. But some of them are just, there's something like this, or they renamed a highway or a bench or designated a day as such and such to recognize so-and-so. Um, so, you know, some of it doesn't really like have an effect on our daily lives, but I do question why these things are important and, and back to this. So he wants, did I read it correctly?

[00:07:21] I like quickly browsed through this, laughed at it and sent you the article. And I was like, okay, is this real? It's this April fools. It's good. It's not April, but they want to make a statue, right? He wants not, not just to name this. Is it like, does anyone a statue or am I totally off with that? I don't remember anything about a statue. Okay. So maybe you're wrong with that, but yeah. I don't see anything about a statue. Okay. Okay.

[00:07:46] So I'm wrong about that part, but we don't need a cryptid, but if we're going to have something, we already have the brown bear. Like why? I don't, I don't understand adding this mythical creature. They also go on to say that Bigfoot is not even indigenous solely to California. Right. According to sightings, he's been cited in Colorado, Michigan, New York, Illinois, Florida, Washington, Oregon, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. So he's gotten around. Yes.

[00:08:15] I thought it was more of an Oregon, Colorado thing, to be honest. I didn't think that was a whole thing. I thought it was Pacific Northwest. I don't associate Bigfoot with California. If you're thinking about a cryptid thing that like a creature whose reported existence is unproven, probably a rational Democrat. That might be a good thing. Like a creature whose reported existence has been unproven. But I'm joking. I know.

[00:08:41] I don't understand why he's doing this, but it's our cringe moment of the week because it's just cringe that people spend their time on this. I have to bring up the part where how fitting that it's Assembly Bill 666. That to me just was like the icing on top of this. Yeah. The scary, silly, yet real bill that has been authored.

[00:09:08] And then to just adding, adding more to it, AB 666. And I just thought, okay, I, this is where I feel like the extreme right wingers are going to just run with this of C. They want to like erect this mythical creature. It's the, it's the golden calf, demonic 666 and all the things. And I was like, oh, this just keeps getting better. Oh yeah. Um, it's, it's just a, a plethora of things to mock California.

[00:09:38] Yeah. To me, this is just, this is completely funny. I don't take this very seriously. Yes. It's a real bill. I'm not on the side of like, this is demonic and this is their, you know, golden calf and 666 and we're all going to hell. Like I'm, I'm not there. I'm just laughing at the, the, the part about like, let's name it. A state cryptic and. State cryptid. Cryptid. So we'll have to keep everyone updated whether this actually passes or not. Um, all right. On to more serious things.

[00:10:07] Uh, we'd brought up that we had visited or we went up to, you drove over. I went up to, um, North, I went East. You went. Yeah. I drove a lot farther up to Riverside where Sheriff Bianco had announced, formally announced. It was sort of rumored. I think the news broke last week on X about that. He was formally running. Uh, we were invited to go up and check it out.

[00:10:32] Um, you know, I was, he, he gave about a 15 minute speech for people who saw we, you know, we were streaming online or on Instagram. Uh, so you could go see his whole speech there. I'm sure there's places where you can go see better quality than for my iPhone. Um, but it was, uh, it was a fun event. It was well organized. I was actually surprised at how well organized it was. It was very professionally done.

[00:11:00] Um, there is a, you know, there's a lot of energy behind Sheriff Bianco. I'm going to say that. And we've, we've seen it on social media. We've seen it on people commenting on the post, uh, you know, reels of this podcast. People have, are very excited about Sheriff Bianco. And I think there's, there's a good reason why he's probably the biggest heavy hitter to jump in on the Republican side. He's probably the guy to jump in on the Republican side.

[00:11:28] I know there's people who have said that Rick Grinnell has thought about running. We are actually talking about that with some other people we know who are at the event that Rick Grinnell is thinking about jumping in. If Kamala runs, um, there's some other ones who've run before like Anthony Tremino is planning Cardone is running. I think he might be helping out with the 10 X California. I don't think he's going to run, uh, based on our conversation. Grant, you can tell me if I'm wrong or not.

[00:11:57] Uh, but it was a very energetic, excited room and there was, there was a lot of energy and a lot of people were very excited to have Sheriff Bianco. There were protesters. I mean, that's, that's a pretty good sign. Okay. Yeah. There were protesters. When I pulled up, there were people standing on the corner with signs about how, you know, he's no human is illegal. And Sheriff Bianco, like, I don't know, he's the merchant of death or something like that.

[00:12:25] Cause he's sheriff, you know, all these crazy things. It was about, I would say about eight to 10 and protesters outside, but I'm like, well, you already got protesters. That's a good sign. That means you've already, you know, you, your name recognition precedes you and you already have enough cache that people are willing to protest you. Obviously if you're not a big person or a big deal, like people aren't going to show up to protest you. Um, what were your thoughts and takeaways from the announcement yesterday? Okay. So I got there a little bit earlier than you.

[00:12:55] So I was kind of hanging out outside for a while and then meandered in. And, um, I guess what happened was it was supposed to be a private invite only event. And then word got out and people were sharing it. And so they had to, I think before you arrived, they actually closed the doors and they were, someone would get up on the microphone and be like, if you leave this room, you're not getting back in. We're sold out. We're packed out.

[00:13:22] Um, people showed up like, like you mentioned, it was, it was very organized and I thought it was organized too. Outside. They had a couple of different merchant booths. Um, some other just kind of Republican is merchant booths that weren't necessarily associated with Bianco. They had a taco stand that they were setting up and then a bakery was giving out free treats.

[00:13:46] And so once my mom and I got in, cause my mom went with me, we, uh, we, they, oh, they had actually had set up chairs, but then removed the chairs because they were like, we're going to have a packed out room. But my mom and I snagged a couple of chairs and just like went in the back and then sat there and waited. And, um, so many people, the majority of people showed up wearing Bianco merchandise, um, or they just grabbed them outside and changed real quick.

[00:14:14] But it was a very, like, I would describe kind of like wild west, you know, they showed up, they're wearing their cowboy boots, their cowboy hats. He shared Bianco had his gun on, you know, in a holster on his hip. Something you really don't. I didn't even notice that. Um, I wish I had taken a photo of it. I noticed it. And, um, and, and then, you know, they're, they're waiting. It wasn't a hot day, but the room was warm because we're, we're packed in there and we're waiting.

[00:14:44] And he wasn't, I don't think he was like late or he showed up, he started talking around 1115. The event was supposed to start at 11. District attorney, Mike Hestron introduced him. That's the district attorney for Riverside County. And then, um, Bianco started talking, but you know, before that they're everyone's good. They grabbed their yard signs. Everyone's holding up yard signs. They're chanting Bianco. So, and I think, I feel like people are going to come after me for saying this, but I felt

[00:15:11] like, and this is not, this is not an endorsement. This is not anything like that, but how it felt to me was on a very much smaller scale, the same energy that we saw when we were at convention at the end of 2023, when Trump showed up, it was like, people were very, very excited, you know, chanting Trump, Trump wearing their Trump gear. And again, this is by no means on the same scale.

[00:15:36] And I'm not even implying that Sheriff Yank was going to win, but it was just that same, like, it was like, I, my takeaway was he's kind of the Trump of California people, you know, the slogan, a lot of people were wearing was only the sheriff can save us. Now people, um, are very excited about him. And as you mentioned, he's so far the biggest name that has been thrown in. There's talk of Rick Grinnell, there's talk of Steve Hilton.

[00:16:02] And, um, but Sheriff Bianco is, he's been a cop for like three decades. And then the elected sheriff for the past six years, he, a lot of what he sees goes back to California issues. You know, he's working with, has worked with like, he's the cops, you know, the sheriffs, they work with schools when there's youth that are getting out of hand, cops are called in. So he's seeing in the education system and like, even like how households, how kids are

[00:16:31] getting out of control and not necessarily paying attention in school and they're disrupting school and stuff like that. And he's seeing that he's dealing with homeless people. So we seeing how the homelessness population is getting out of control. Like, I feel like he, and then of course, drugs and the fentanyl was coming over the border. Like, I feel like so many of the issues that are the big issues in California, he has had to deal with firsthand. He has seen it firsthand dealing with immigration.

[00:16:56] Um, you know, like I just, I think he has so much experience, decades, decades of experience in this. And so I feel like now I've rambled for too long and you should probably try. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Steve Hilton, that was the other name that we were talking about. He wants to, he said he's exploring or he wants to jump in, you know, he had said it on Fox news.

[00:17:22] Um, the reason I, I'm not, and I think Bianco has an advantage over people like Rick Rennell or a Steve Hilton is to be quite honest. He is a Californian and I'm not taken away from Rick Rennell or Steve Hilton who probably have moved here and lived here for a little bit. Um, but I just feel like there is that longevity of Bianco has been here and he brought up in his speech how he was here for the California dream. I don't know. Was he born and raised here?

[00:17:51] Or like, I remember he was very raised here. He, he eventually came here in 1989. I'm not sure where he was part of it. He's had a lot more. He's had a lot more experience being here in California on the ground, uh, raise the family here. Um, you know, he's been here and obviously him working as a sheriff and a cop for how many decades, he's on the front lines quite literally of what is happening in California. He was on the front lines. He was elected sheriff.

[00:18:18] We had him on when we had him on, he talked about how he was elected sheriff and then all of a sudden greeted with COVID and he had to figure out COVID, which really his kind of pushback on COVID. What is what propelled him into the national spotlight? Like, so I feel like that has more cache in the sense of like, I don't want to say like there's not really a better word for it politically, but like, there is a feeling of like these bigger

[00:18:43] national names who come in or like, Oh, I'm going to be, uh, you know, I'm going to run for California governor. And they, they have sort of like a little bit of a link to California that, you know, for a lack of a better term, you guess you can call them like carpetbaggers. Like they've come in, they, they don't really live here. So he does have that, um, going for him. And I think that we also talked about, I think there is a big advantage of him jumping out first.

[00:19:10] And I think this, this is a smart move on his part to jump out first, because if you saw that room and you felt the energy, you go, Oh geez, like, okay, there's a lot of people who are beyond behind Chad Bianco. Um, does that push other candidates who are on the fringe to go? I don't have a shot. Like Chad is kind of taken up everything. Um, he's, he's running away with it. Like, there's no reason for me to get in.

[00:19:36] So that is strategically good for him to get in and jump in right away. The other thing that I immediately reminded me of Chad Bianco, the way he is honest and he doesn't censor himself reminds me a lot of Travis Allen. And for those of you probably might not remember who Travis Allen was, Travis Allen was around 2018.

[00:20:01] I think he ran, he was running against governor or Gavin Newsom for his first term. Um, and it was during the primaries and open jungle primary and everybody was in, and this is when they backed John Cox over Travis Allen for some reason, the California GOP. I, I'm going to go ahead and say it was because of money because John Cox is like a billionaire and they figured he's got money. He can do this. But John Cox to me, I just, he's never been an impressive candidate and they got behind

[00:20:30] him twice to run for governor. I, I don't know. Money talks, you know, political consultants and money. Yeah. That should extend because we know it takes millions to run, um, for this, you know, high governor position in a state as large as California. Yeah. Cause to get any recognition, it's going to cost a lot of money for ads and all that. But yeah, I don't, I never understood the appeal of John Cox as well. And then the GOP getting behind him a second time was confusing to me.

[00:20:59] And it just felt like he just likes to jump in and run. Like he just gets a thrill from that. But, but then what does he do outside of that? For also, was it the second time he ran, he toured the state with a live bear? Yes. And I'm like, what, what is this? Is this like a circus act now? Like we were, we're having him tour the state with a live bear. Like that's his gimmick. Um, but more to like why Chad reminds me of Travis Allen.

[00:21:28] Travis Allen was able to harness a lot of grassroots frustration. And I feel like he was the fire breather in that primary that could take it to Gavin Newsom. I think he had the best comeback of anybody that everybody was lighting up social media about was, uh, they were all on the debate stage and Travis Allen said something like,

[00:21:54] I don't know why voters would trust you at the state when people can't even trust you with their wife or something like that. Because he was a legend of the fact that like his best, he slept with his best friend's wife or his campaign manager's wife. And the whole place was like, Whoa, um, I'm gonna have to find that clip now. But anyway, um, yeah, Chad taps into that. And I think that is so crucial for someone who's going to run in California.

[00:22:21] I've always said, just be bold and like, not be afraid to speak your position in California. We get so many people who want to run and like win on the margins. And I don't think that really works in California. If we're trying to over the long haul, move the needle back towards center or back towards whatever far, you know, away from the far left. Um, and you gotta be big and bold.

[00:22:48] You can't be this meek milled, like kind of moderate Democrat, but a Republican, like you, you gotta be big and bold. And I think that's the benefit of Chad Bianco is that he has no filter and he's just gonna, he's going to go out there and say whatever he wants to say. Cause he believes in it. He's going to get pushback and he's going to get hate, but he's going to get, I think he's going to get a lot of people who are going to show up and go like, eh, you know, he's tapped into frustration. I agree with them on a lot of things.

[00:23:15] So, um, all right, the race is on, here we go. 2026, uh, the gubernatorial race. I'm going to find that if you have any thoughts, uh, I'm sure. Yeah. Um, people have asked us because we were there yesterday. People have commented on some of the social media stuff. Like, are you guys endorsing him? Uh, as a, as a podcast, we weren't, we will not endorse anybody.

[00:23:40] We just try to bring you information and facts and, you know, break it down with here's facts. Here's our opinion based on those facts to, you know, take it, if you will, whatever, it's up to you, how you, how you feel, how you believe what you, you know, who you want to back, whatever. I, I do wish California would get behind one Republican, but we are all going to disagree on who that one Republican is.

[00:24:05] Several people like Sheriff Bianco, but then, and I've seen this, you know, on social media where they're like, well, if we're going to just jump in the race, then I'm torn. Uh, Steve Hilton is another possibility. And so I understand we're going to be split between those three. We are, I wish we could get behind one. And, and I understand, but, and this is going to sound so judgmental and I am not an expert. So take this as you will, but having gotten way more involved in politics in the last

[00:24:34] few years, I've always been very politically, like I've always been passionate about it, but because I was a young mom and I was raising a bunch of kids, I didn't have time to actually go out and get involved. And so it's only been the last few years. And just, I, I want to say, I respect anyone who jumps in, they have an issue. It makes them passionate. They jump in and you're putting yourself out there. And, and by putting yourself out there, you're opening yourself up to criticism and, and all kinds of hate. And, and so like, I respect people that are like, you know, this became an issue for me.

[00:25:04] And instead of just whining about it, I'm jumping in. I want to bring awareness. Like, I totally respect that. I totally appreciate that. And I don't even want to like belittle anyone who's ever done this, but we were discussing and I'm not even going to throw out names, but there's just a lot of smaller names who haven't necessarily been active in politics these last few years who are saying they ran in the special election 2021. They ran in 2022 and they're saying they're going to run again. And I just personally kind of wish you guys would sit this one out and put your support behind one of these top three bigger names.

[00:25:34] And I see that you found the clip. So, uh, yeah, so this is from 2018. This is a, the open jungle primary debate with Travis Allen. This is what he said. The question is very simple. Ladies and gentlemen, if you can't trust Gavin with his best friend's wife, how can you trust him with your state? That was a, that was a pretty good line. Um, I remember back on Twitter when I checked on Twitter, I was like, Whoa, people were like,

[00:26:04] damn Travis Allen just like knocked out Gavin Newsom. Um, um, but it's that kind of like, you know, brash, no holds barred, no filter that Chad Bianco reminds me of. And, and that was like, there was, there was a big movement behind Travis Allen. And I feel like the party really, um, I feel like the party really betrayed a lot of Republican voters when they went with John Cox over Travis Allen.

[00:26:33] And I really hope that there isn't a situation where like the GOP, well, they don't really do that anymore. They don't back any governors, right? Like that's their thing now. They don't back. Yeah. There was a lot of backlash about that with the special election where they said, we don't feel like that's what we're supposed to be doing. We, we want to register voters. We want to educate people. But then I, then they endorsed Larry Elder, I believe. Yeah. I think when it, yeah, that was weird.

[00:27:00] They said they weren't going to endorse anybody and then they endorsed Larry Elder like right at the end. They just got so much pushback from. Yeah. But I hope that's not what happens here is like, they go with the, the, like the person with the most money, I guess. And like the shiny object of like, this is good for the party, but not good for the state kind of thing. Like, I hope they don't make the same mistake again is what I'm saying.

[00:27:26] I hope they don't make the same 2018 mistake where they pushed aside Travis Allen and all of his grassroots support and sort of the excitement and enthusiasm that Travis Allen had built up in favor of somebody who just because they have billions of dollars, like who has the personality of a, of a wet noodle. Sorry, John. I just, I didn't, I never found you that exciting. Not that he's ever going to come on the show. Anyway.

[00:27:50] You brought up yesterday and not, not to say I'm not trying to be negative about Bianco's campaign. I'm not saying he will or won't win, but you brought up like, even if he doesn't win, he definitely has the opportunity to bring awareness to so many issues and get people to vote on ballot. Is that, is that what you were saying yesterday? Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like. Well, yeah. And, and that's why I think like it, it works. If you are someone who has no filter in that sense of like, you are going to talk about

[00:28:20] this stuff and you're not going to be, you know, you're not going to be wishy-washy about it. And I think that that is very important to have someone like that. And like, even if he doesn't win, it helps to have someone at the top of the ticket who excites people. That's another thing you got to think about like, who's going to excite people? Like a John Cox. I know I keep beating up on John Cox, but he wasn't that great. But there was no enthusiasm for John Cox in the gubernatorial race in 2018.

[00:28:50] Right. Right. And that affects down ballot. Like it affects like congressional races. It affects legislative races. It affects city council and mayor's races. Like you have to have someone at the top of the ticket that people are going to say, I'm going to show up and vote because I really want to vote for this guy or girl. And it's really important to me. But if you don't have someone at the top of the ticket, who's really driving someone to the polls.

[00:29:16] Like we saw it with, you know, we just saw it several months ago. We Trump at the top of the ticket. It got a lot of people to show up. And a lot of people voted, flipped a couple of seats, several seats. Lots of counties went red. Like that is what we're talking about. And having someone at the top of the ticket who garners that type of excitement and enthusiasm helps overall.

[00:29:42] There are so many like factors into why it's important who you get at the top of the ticket. So it'll be interesting to see who goes where. We are not at the point yet. It's not this convention coming. I would probably say fall convention. You'll see a lot of politicking as to like who is going to come out on top at the California GOP convention.

[00:30:11] I feel like that's definitely a convention we have to go do a live podcast at because there's going to be a ton of people running around. So here we go. And as for that, we don't know. That's so quick. The GOP conventions in like two weeks for the spring convention. But so then what? Six months, seven months. We're back to the next one where I don't know if they'll necessarily start endorsing yet because I'm not sure if the spring 2026 convention will be before or after primaries.

[00:30:40] But yeah, this fall convention, it will come up fast, you guys. Like it feels like the 2026 elections are so far away and they are. But election cycles, they go so fast. You know, Blanco has just thrown in his name yesterday, officially yesterday. And we're 16-ish months out from November 2026. But it's going to fly by. Like now is the time to get involved and get started and start researching. Look at your candidates.

[00:31:10] It will also be, now I'm just hypothesizing here because we keep hearing more and more rumblings about Kamala Harris wanting to run for governor of California. I'm just imagining the entertainment value of having Chad Bianco go up against Kamala Harris. Do you think, because there's been reverse, although I haven't heard anything really recently, but you know, Katie Porter was a possible, she was a possible candidate.

[00:31:38] Do you think if Kamala Harris does run that Katie Porter will bow out? Well, she doesn't officially bowed it, but. Here's me reading the tea leaves and you can call me a conspiracy theorist all you want. My theory why, so Rob Bonta was on the fence. We were kind of like, is he in, is he not in? I thought I've read that he was in. He formally announced, he said, I'm not running. I'm going to run for attorney general again.

[00:32:04] I think Kamala's people got to him behind the scenes and said, look, Kamala wants to run for governor. You're either with us or against us. So back out. And he probably was like, well, she's probably the biggest Democrat out there right now. Which is not really saying a lot for the Democratic Party nationally. That that's the biggest person. That's the torchbearer standard bearer. Yeah. But they did vote for her. I mean. Right.

[00:32:33] So it will be interesting. She is so, I guess, just grading and it'll be interesting. California is a different beast. She did not win California in the primary back in 2020 or 2019. So just gives you an idea of like how popular she was compared to other Democrat candidates. She also didn't win in the primary. She didn't win anything in the primary. She didn't. I don't think she, she didn't get one vote in the primary.

[00:33:01] So, you know, take that for what she didn't win any votes. So she didn't win any states and she didn't even win California. Well, she was out even before California. It was like she was, she got zero votes and then she dropped out really quickly right after Iowa. I think it was, it was pretty quick for her to go, go out. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see her versus Chad Bianco because I feel like Chad Bianco will not hold back on someone like Kamala Harris.

[00:33:29] And then you really see a stark difference between two different Californias of like, I guess you could say the rural areas, inland areas versus the coastal elites. Yeah. That's what that election is going to be about is like Kamala Harris, San Francisco, Bay Area elite millionaire versus like the hardworking men and women of everywhere else in California.

[00:34:01] I also just a side note, I do like riding up to or driving up to Riverside because it reminds me California is a big, beautiful state. You know, San Diego is beautiful. Don't get me wrong. But it is nice to get out of San Diego and drive up and be like, there is so much more to California than just this little coastal town. So did you drive up the 15? I did. And I got to see a lot of the signs that remind you, oh, we're still in America out here. Like, you know, God bless America. A lot of American flags.

[00:34:31] So I have to just ask, because it's been a while since I've driven that because we've had rain somewhat recently. Was it, was it green? Were the hills green? Were there flowers? It's so not the point of the podcast, but I'm just very curious. No, it was very brown and dead. Oh, okay. Yeah. Do it again next week. Yeah, I'm not, but I'm not driving up to 15 anytime soon again. But it is nice to drive up. I need to explore more of California.

[00:34:58] Maybe someone in the comments should tell me like where else I should visit in California. I want to really go up to like the Redwoods or someplace up there. I want to go to the state of Jefferson. I bet it's beautiful up there. Anyway, so we got a lot to look forward to. Obviously, he's the first big name out of anybody. I think I don't know anybody else who's really jumped in, even on the Democratic side. So, oh, Tony Atkins jumped in, but she's not really a big name. She's been named for San Diego. She's a huge name for San Diego.

[00:35:28] Chad Bianco, maybe we're known in Southern California right now. But here we go. Big Sur, Yellowstone. I've never been to Yellowstone. I need to go to Yellowstone. Look at that. There's so many beautiful places. A lot of beautiful places in California. We really do live in a beautiful state. It is. It's a beautiful state. I don't know if I consider Daniel Mercury as one of the big names. Someone said in the chat, that's definitely not one of the big names. What's going on, everybody?

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[00:36:50] They'll get that discount, support the show. You can support Stopbox. And this is proudly made in the good old U.S. of A. So go to stopbox.com forward slash California underground for your discount. And let's get back to the show. All right. So one of the issues that Chad Bianco obviously is very outspoken about is the border and migrants. News breaking out of San Diego.

[00:37:14] The migrant shelter that was here has now shut down because there's been no new arrivals. All because of Trump. No new arrivals since. Since Trump. There is a video. I'm going to play the video. So this video is from Fox News. You sent me the tweet from Bill. I forget his name. Bill Melugan. Melugan. I'm not even sure. It was just like he's from Fox, L.A.

[00:37:45] So. But he explains what is going on in the state or in San Diego. So. A San Diego migrant shelter shutting its doors after receiving no migrants since President Trump's inauguration. National Border Patrol Council President Paul Perez will be here on that in just moments. But first, let's get the news from Bill Melugan. He is live out of Los Angeles for us. So, Bill, how many migrants had come to this NGO recently?

[00:38:16] Sandra, believe it or not, literally zero. This NGO says not a single migrant has come to their shelter since President Trump took office. That shelter is now closing down and laying off 115 employees. And Trump has officially cut off their FEMA funding. Jewish Family Service San Diego has been running a rapid response migrant shelter that offered migrants things like care packages, food, legal services, travel coordination, medical screenings, immigration case management, you name it, they offered it.

[00:38:45] FEMA records show they had been allocated $22 million last year. But the NGO says they've never received any of that money. Jewish Family Service San Diego points the finger at President Trump, saying in part, quote, with migrants no longer able to use the CBP-1 application, the shelter has not received new families and individuals released from short-term federal custody. Due to recent changes in federal funding and policy, the shelter services will be paused until there's a better understanding of future community needs.

[00:39:15] Now, the Trump White House is reacting, telling Fox News, quote, promises made, promises kept. President Donald Trump ended the app that facilitated the movement of illegal immigrants into our country. Let's hope these empty shelters are now used to take care of Americans in need. One San Diego County supervisor says the Biden administration released over 150,000 illegal aliens onto San Diego County streets just last year alone.

[00:39:40] That's Republican Jim Desmond, and he tells Fox he's happy to see the border now effectively closed with no more migrants going to that shelter. I'm glad that this problem is no longer exists. I'm glad that moving forward, this is not going to be a drain on the federal government. And maybe the federal government can start giving back to Americans as opposed to people who came across illegally. And Supervisor Desmond tells us the number of smuggling boats landing on San Diego County shores

[00:40:09] has also plummeted since Trump took office, as the Coast Guard is now much more proactive in the area. Sandra? Bill Malugin on that for us. Bill, thank you. Thank you, Bill Malugin. So Jim Desmond, Supervisor Jim Desmond, we had him on the show. He's running for Congress. He has been very passionate about this issue for years. He has been calling attention to just the absolute influx of migrants coming over that

[00:40:35] San Diego wasn't equipped to handle, and they were taking over a lot of San Diego's funds that were allocated for different things and that they no longer could be used for that because they were trying to take care of all these immigrants that were showing up and the boats and everything. I felt very happy for Jim in this moment. Because I know this is something he has been passionately outspoken about and fighting against for years. Years.

[00:41:03] So it's just like to see him being like, we're not seeing this anymore. I just feel like, you did it, Jim. It's happened for you. Yeah, when he was on the show, he talked about this a lot. He is always talking about this a lot. He brings the alarm bell more than anybody else, especially on that panel, that board of supervisors. Yeah. He's one of two Republicans on that board of supervisors. Joel Anderson does not really do anything.

[00:41:33] Misses a lot of votes. Jim is definitely on top of this stuff. And I always try to reshare a lot of his stuff because it's so crazy what you see for the past four years of what you saw from our government. And it was from the county level in San Diego down to the city level. And the amount of money, I think they were awarding $5 million to help build the shelter. Like that was county funds, like taxpayer funds in San Diego County for this shelter.

[00:42:02] And, you know, they just named themselves a super sanctuary state or super sanctuary county and all that. So it is that's a good pickup. For Jim, it's probably like I've been yelling about this for a long time. And now stuff is finally actually happening because Trump is in office. It is the Trump effect is big. It's like the deterrent of not coming here because it's not welcoming anymore is a huge deterrent.

[00:42:30] Like just that stance is so powerful to the rest of the world of like we're not putting up with this anymore. So don't even try. It's not going to be as easy. The CBP one app after they shut that off was like just caused chaos. They didn't know what they were doing. It is it is. I saw I watched a quick video of like Tom Homan. He was on Fox News as well. And they asked him about it.

[00:42:58] And he goes, this just shows you like how secure the border is in just a matter of like weeks since President Trump has taken over that light switch. He just like. Yeah. It's unbelievable how it went from like tens of thousands a month to nothing. Like they've just figured out like just close it. Just make it hard. Make it we can go back and forth.

[00:43:24] And that's not really the point of tonight's episode is to go back and forth about like whether or not the immigration system needs to be fixed. And should we make it harder or easier? It really is just more of a complete reversal from the Biden administration.

[00:43:40] I mean, the fact that we were welcoming so many or the Biden administration was basically welcoming so many migrants that we were building shelters with taxpayer money for migrants and then releasing. What do they say? 150,000 into San Diego County. Like where do we have any idea where they are? Do we have any idea what they're doing? Like where did they go?

[00:44:07] And that's just that's that was the Biden administration that right there was a whole Biden administration. And then all of a sudden the polar opposite happens with President Trump where he goes, no, we're not doing this anymore. We're not we're not funding these migrant shelters. We're cutting off FEMA funding to these NGOs. I did look this up because I was really interested in now, especially with all the like Doge USAID stuff like Jewish Family Service of San Diego.

[00:44:34] You can go to USA spending dot gov obligated amount of money that they were getting. So the Department of Homeland Security obligated. I don't think they're getting anymore because they ended it. Twenty two point one million dollars was obligated to this organization. Just this organization. Yeah, I was gonna say that's just one migrant facility within San Diego County. Right. That is just one migrant.

[00:45:00] That is just one NGO that they have stopped the funding for. I'm pretty sure it was either Trump or Kristi Noem who got in there and was like, nope, like this is we're not doing this anymore. I think it was Kristi Noem who came out and said we're not spending any more federal money on a lot of this migrant. So I forget where I was going with that story. But yeah, it is. It is so stark in terms of.

[00:45:30] Just what it looks like from a president by administration to a president Trump administration where we were rolling out the welcome mat before and building brand new migrant facilities to migrant facilities are now being shut down because there's no one coming across the border. So to clarify, neither you are against immigration. We want to see. No, no, no. Like I'm not of the belief that every migrant is a horrific criminal who, you know, is going to do horrendous things.

[00:46:00] A lot of people, they come here because they do believe there's an American dream and they want to achieve that. And so definitely not against legal immigration, but even with like having Jorge Ventura on just a couple of weeks ago where he talked about the border crisis is really a humanitarian crisis and a lot of what we're not seeing because, you know, there's the liberal bleeding heart of like they just want to come here for a better life. Well, that's not necessarily the case with so many coming across the border.

[00:46:30] And in fact, it's human cruelty, the way that we've had open borders and what we've allowed to happen because of no accountability. And so, you know, we're just for like, OK, we've got we've got to close this off and figure out because we do need reform and we've got to figure out how to allow people to come in here legally and not just lose track of them and not lose track of criminals and children.

[00:46:52] I mean, so many children that we've there was they've said they recovered like tens of thousands, but there was as of like last year, like 300,000 plus missing children, minors that, you know, came into the border were lost. And that's not that's not compassion. And that's certainly not, you know, it just to go along with there. And I'm not saying they're the homeless people, but like it's not compassion to give the homeless people sterile needles so they can do their drugs like that's that's not helping anybody.

[00:47:19] And then to go back to kind of American first policies, we know that we have so many homeless veterans. We know that the the VA needs reform like my dad is a veteran and he has he was injured in Vietnam and has been fighting. Vietnam was how many years ago? I mean, it was before I was born. He has been fighting with the VA to get them to fund surgery that he needs.

[00:47:43] And it's just like, let's let's help our people that actually, you know, are our veterans that have gone and and fought for us and been injured and we're paying them such low wages and stuff like that. And it's just like there there is absolutely a time and place for migrants to come into this country, but it just needs to be reined in and really like just a system with accountability and reform. That's all.

[00:48:37] Majority, not a large majority, but a majority of the popular vote and the electoral vote. It's not working anymore. And it's not working because people are kind of going, wait a second. I'm smart enough to tell the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration. And there's probably a lot of people who legally immigrated here who look at illegal immigration are like, wait a second.

[00:48:59] I had to go through 10 years of, you know, attorney's fees and waiting and interviews and forms and all of this stuff to get my citizenship. And then if you're at the Biden administration, you're looking at it going like. And you're looking at it going. All these people who are being let in all of a sudden. It's it's not fair to a lot of people. So I apologize. My chickens are freaking out, which means something's happening.

[00:49:29] And so I'm like texting my family. Oh, chicken, chicken disaster. Chicken crisis. OK, I'll keep I'll keep talking about illegal immigration. Yeah, they try and conflate these two things. And it's I think it just falls on deaf ears now because people are sitting here going like there's a difference between illegal and legal immigration. But again, it is it is the stark difference between the president, Trump and president by administration where we are.

[00:49:58] We have migrant shelters that are being paid for with taxpayer dollars. Twenty two million dollars is a lot of money for a migrant shelter. And San Diego County, I think, put five million dollars towards it as well. And it's all closed up now. So in other news, since we have a couple minutes left, there is more news about you had brought up homeless and being compassionate towards homeless people. This is actually a good segue.

[00:50:28] Let me pull this article up. This Bay Area city has just passed the most extreme encampment ban in California. This is actually pretty harsh encampment ban. So some people are taking their ability to ban encampments really extreme. This is from KQED.

[00:50:50] Fremont city leaders on Tuesday night passed what could be the state's most extreme anti camping law over widespread condemnation from legal advocates and homeless services providers. The ordinance bans camping on not only public property, but also private land, including on residential property for more than three consecutive nights.

[00:51:10] And what appears to be the first ban of its kind, it also prohibits anyone from, quote, permitting, aiding and abetting or concealing camping on those grounds. A provision so broad advocates warning could give a chilling effect on outreach, food distribution and other efforts to provide much needed help to unhoused. A violation is punishable up to six months in jail or a fine of one thousand dollars. Cities across California. Oh, wait, this is from the mayor.

[00:51:40] We must balance accountability with compassion. Mayor Raj saw one said we can't just say let's just leave things as they are because whatever we're doing is not enough. Cities across California have cracked down on encampments since the Supreme Court gave local officials more power to do so last summer, though none to the extent of Fremont. Right. So this is interesting because I think it was just this last weekend's episode where we discussed that.

[00:52:09] It seems like like Nancy Tong is the new chairman for the San Francisco Democratic Party Committee. Right. And so we were talking about like they're kind of losing some of their extreme policies. And now this is a Bay Area city that is like suddenly they want to ban these homeless camps. So it's just it is interesting.

[00:52:35] These these cities are they do seem to be like, wait, we've we've gone too far. We we've gotten out of hand. Well, this was part of this was going to be on this weekend's episode because we're talking about San Francisco going more moderate. So it kind of worked together. This idea of like Bay Area going a little bit more moderate. We just didn't have any time. So we ran out of time. Again, we always think like we don't have enough stuff to talk about.

[00:53:01] And then we start talking about stuff and we're like, it's already been an hour and now we got to cut it off too much. Keep it for the next episode, which, by the way, we're doing two episodes a week now. So make sure you hit that notification bell and subscribe. We are doing two episodes a week now. The other one comes out Sunday at eight o'clock. So go check it out. But yeah, this was interesting that they are taking this really, really extreme.

[00:53:28] And it's like not trying to find a word. It is for for this area, Bay Area to take such a harsh, harsh position. It was almost shocking to be like, wait, this was the first city to get this tough on this. This wasn't like, you know, this wasn't Riverside. This wasn't an empire. This wasn't any of those more rural communities. This was Fremont in the Bay Area.

[00:53:58] And I think this is part of voters being fed up with all money and no, absolutely no results. Yeah, I had posted last week. We had just talked about the L.A. homeless services and about how they're handing out contracts to their husband. And they have a seven hundred million dollar like budget. And homelessness in L.A. has not gotten better. It looks like a third world country when you look at like downtown Los Angeles.

[00:54:27] So I think this really is like voters pushing back on this stuff and cities being like, look, the voters want us to get tough on homelessness. We've tried the nice approach and it's not working anymore. So we have to get tough. And I think that's also Democrats are seeing this on the on the like they're seeing the tea leaves politically that voters want them to get tough on homelessness. They're tired of homelessness. They're tired of like do something about it.

[00:54:56] Like at this point, our patience has run out. We try to be as compassionate as possible. We don't know what else to do. We've we've spent tens of millions of dollars. We've spent billions of dollars at this point on building homeless shelters and beds and all of this stuff. And we keep saying we got to help them and find them places to live. And it never changes. It gets worse. Like every year we see it gets worse and worse and worse. Like you look at the numbers and they're like, oh, well, homelessness went up in California again this year.

[00:55:25] You're like, so what did we just spend billions of dollars on? What did we just pass eight billion dollars prop one last year to help with homelessness? And six billion. But it'll become like eight, 10 billion by the time. Yeah. With interest, it will be eight to 10 billion dollars by the time it's all said and done. And after we pay it off. So the taxpayers are going to be on the hook for eight to 10 billion dollars. But we're probably only going to see six billion of it actually going to the homeless industrial complex.

[00:55:53] And that's what I'm I'm going to start calling it the homeless industrial complex from now on, because in all honesty, like that's all it is. We've seen it firsthand. We've reported and talked about it. We did cover a policy scheme. Yeah. And we I still want to look into like L.A. H.S.A. more because there is a. We have tabs open still like from because there's interesting stuff.

[00:56:16] Yeah, I'm sure if we dig into that more, I bet is one big, ugly, you know, I don't know what else we're going to say, but like one big, ugly pile of crap in L.A. H.S.A. And how where money is going. Well, transparency is so important.

[00:56:35] As we've talked about, California doesn't open the books and people will not necessarily people, but people within the government are freaking out about the whole Doge thing, which is not concentrated on California. But certainly we need our own Doge system. We should not be afraid to audit the government and where our tax dollars are going, because I have to remind you guys, these these are our tax dollars that are that our kids are like the bonds. Our kids are going to be responsible for.

[00:57:03] We're literally putting debt on our kids and our unborn grandkids and stuff. And so there should be transparency. We should know where they're going. We should absolutely get to see it went to this and it was able to fix this or feed this or do build this. You know, we need to 100 percent transparency of where these dollars are going. And then when they're going nowhere, well, except to, you know, NGO CEOs pockets, then we've got to say, OK, this is enough. We have to stop this. This isn't fair. This isn't right.

[00:57:34] And again, it's not like on a selfish level. I don't hate homeless people and I don't want to see them on the streets or hungry. But literally, if we were taxed way less, my husband and I could help a whole family for a year, whereas and so many more people could do that. We're whereas like we know it's going to 16 government employees before it gets to one homeless person. And then what's left for them is just pennies on the dollar.

[00:58:04] So we need homelessness reform. I mean, it's actually more compassionate to demand. Like transparency and an audit on this, because if you really care about the situation, you could say, no, no, we need to stop all this money and we need an audit to figure out where the hell did all that money go?

[00:58:28] And I know they Josh Hoover was part of getting them to start looking at where all this money is going. The result was people showed up to hearings and we're like, well, we have no idea where the money is going, which to me should I don't it should make every Californians blood boil that people who are in the homeless department of Sacramento are showing up and going. We don't know where the money went. And you go, what? What do you mean you don't know where the money went?

[00:58:56] That was on a previous episode that that one was we were pretty upset about that. And they just they didn't care. They just had like no remorse at all. They were just they showed up. Their job. Their job. No, where it was going. And then they showed up to a trial, a hearing, whatever. I don't know the label term. You know, with like they were supposed to show up with the answers and their answers were, I don't know. So I don't like it. And they were so they acted all like nonchalant, but also like offended.

[00:59:24] Like, how dare you ask me where why I don't have the answer to what my job is? Like, I'm paid to know this information. And how dare you question me about it? Well, you said trial, but I don't know if you that was like a like a psychological slip.

[00:59:38] But honestly, between everything we've been seeing with Doge and everything we see with California, I feel like the founders forgot to implement some sort of punishment for public actors who do not do their job and do it with complete negligence. Like, honestly. Well, also, the founding fathers didn't see the government being this big. No, they they have vision that the government.

[01:00:04] And so, no, but I think there should be like, I don't know. These people just they don't do their job. They show up. They don't expect to be held accountable. And you sit there and you go, OK, so what is like our recourse as taxpayers and voters when you look at that? And it's like this entrenched bureaucracy that you go, I don't know what to do here. And I feel like they've lost.

[01:00:28] We don't have a mechanism to be like, maybe you should be on trial for negligence because you've squandered billions of dollars. Like if you squander billions of dollars in the private sector and private life, you go to jail like you go to jail because you've defrauded people. But the government, they just kind of throw up their hands and they're like, yeah, whatever. We don't know where the money went. Who cares? What are you going to do about it? Like we don't we don't know.

[01:00:56] And like so many of these people are entrenched, like because it's just turnover from Democrat to Democrat. You're like, I'm never going to lose my job. Who cares? But I had a job with a nonprofit making six hundred thousand a year. So, you know, whatever. And that's what's sad, too, is like it's hard to figure out which nonprofits to trust. Like you can say like I'm all for nonprofits and charities helping because I think they do a better job of like stretching.

[01:01:25] A dollar to help people. And because they have to fight for those dollars much more than the government has to fight for those dollars, like they have to actually go out and get people to donate to them on a regular basis. But even there's a lot of like nonprofits that you can go like, how much are you paying your CEO? You're paying your CEO like five hundred thousand dollars is supposed to be helping the homeless people. Like, what are we doing here? Like this isn't you're not really a good nonprofit. So, yes, there are many, many great nonprofits out there.

[01:01:54] I feel like we say I'm nonprofits a lot, but I think I think of one that are just taking advantage of everybody. I think of the one down here. It's a Catholic charity. Father Joe's Village, which was started a long time ago by a guy named Father Joe. And it's grown to be such an enormous operation. Like it feeds so many people every single day. Huge soup kitchen. And now I believe they're building their own affordable housing.

[01:02:24] Like they're doing this all on their own, like with donations. But that's an example of like private charities that work and get it done and they're actually helping people. So back to our original point, I don't think it's not compassionate to be like we need to cut off all this money and figure out where it's going first before we keep spending it more and more and more.

[01:02:46] And I don't think Prop 1 would have ever had a prayer of passing if it came out after the news that we lost $24 billion for homelessness. If it came. That's probably another reason we speculated so much on why he did that sooner than later. Oh, yeah. We like that's probably just another reason. We haven't knew that that would come out eventually. Yeah, he knew if I get this on the ballot in March, I have a better chance of getting this passed.

[01:03:13] If it comes out in November after they find out we've lost $24 billion, this will never pass. Yeah. So that's my thoughts. I think if we cut back on government spending and figure out where it's going and be more efficient, we could actually help more people. But call me crazy. Yeah. In summary. In summary. Health and government is out of control and pretty much everything here needs reform. Great. That's it. That's the end of the podcast.

[01:03:43] We don't need to say anything else. Everything. Education. Our prisons. Our health care. Everything. Our homelessness. For, you know, support for veterans. Immigration. Nailed it. It literally, it all just needs. So we don't even have to do another podcast after this. You just need to understand that everything government-wise in California needs reform. That's it. That's the bottom line. That is the secret to saving California. All right. Well, it's been fun hosting this podcast for how many years? Since 2018. 2018. This is it.

[01:04:13] We didn't make it to 300, but we got close. No. Moral of the story is, I don't know why. We had Andre on. Rest in peace. He was the founder of Open Books. He was the CEO and founder of Open the Books. He just passed away recently. And everyone's always like, we need a Doge in California. I posted this on Instagram the other day. Go check out Open the Books and support them. Because people are like, well, they can't do anything.

[01:04:43] I'm like, information is power. Information is power. Like, the more people see is coming out in California. And they worked really hard to try and open the books. Pun intended, I guess. To open and get access to the state's checkbook by law. Like, they went through the courts. They went through an appellate court and all that and got shot down. And the California courts were like, nope.

[01:05:13] Controller says, or Comptroller says, we don't need to show you what we spend our money on. Which, mind-boggling that they think taxpayers don't have a right to say. I cannot. I don't know how a judge comes to that ruling. I literally don't even understand how anyone could think that that's okay. But yeah, they fight hard. So, I know Doge is the big thing. Everyone's like, we need a Doge in California.

[01:05:40] There's a lot of nonprofits and groups like Open the Books who are doing great work. Transparent California. We refer to Transparent California a lot. Todd Madison, he's been on the show. You ever want to look up a salary? They have everybody's salary in California, on Transparent California. You can go there and type in someone's name. Public, public, not everybody's salary. Yeah, public, public, public salaries. Not my salary.

[01:06:09] That'd be pretty crazy if it was like, hey, let me put in this person's salary. Let me put in a John's salary next door. Literally, if you work at a school, if you are an elected official, all that's on there. And it's crazy. It's crazy how much money we spend. Yeah. And this is all from the government themselves. So it's not like they're making these numbers up. They get these huge blocks of data.

[01:06:37] It was like every year, like they get blocks of data from the counties and they have to upload it. That's where they're like, their records are two years behind. Yeah. Because it's just so much data that they have to pull up that they're always kind of like a year behind. They have to wait for everybody. Right. But anyway. 2003 was just recently released. So it's only up to 2023. You're not going to find 2024 salaries until like this time next year.

[01:07:02] But the point is, point remains, there are plenty of organizations out there who are doing work like Doge and exposing a lot of this stuff. You can go support them. Like I said, Open the Books is definitely a big one. They do this across the country. They've done a lot in California. Transparent California is another one. They show us all the information on all the public employees. So go support them. Don't wait for Elon Musk to come by with Doge because I don't think he's going to come by with Doge to California.

[01:07:31] And maybe we need to put more pressure on our elected leaders and say like, why don't you guys show us what you spend money on? If you don't have anything to hide, why don't you tell us like what's what you're spending your money on? Kind of like the same argument with what's going on with Democrats and Doge right now. Like, why are they all fighting this? Why are they fighting people finding out what's going on with our federal money? So we are at an hour. We're actually a couple minutes over an hour. Do you have any final thoughts? I don't know if anyone cares, but my tickets are fine.

[01:08:03] Thank God. Like my heart kind of stopped when I hear him freaking out. And then I'm like texting my kids. I'm like, just tell me if they're okay or not. They're like, they're all good. Okay. Good. Because it's important. I just gave Phil eggs yesterday. It's important. I got 12 organic cage-free eggs yesterday. And I sold them for a hundred dollars. So good for you. IRS don't audit me. No, I'm just kidding. We haven't, we haven't cracked in. We're like hoarding eggs now.

[01:08:32] Like we got a dozen from Trader Joe's and we got it. And then we got a dozen from you. So we're just going to start hoarding. Not much, Liesl. Don't be in the order. Well, we're going to see how long we can hold on to them. But for now, we don't have to worry about eggs. We're not going to go down this egg rabbit hole again. We talked about enough on the last episode. So any final thoughts before we log off? No. Okay. All right. Thanks to everyone who tuned in and everybody who is here on the chat.

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