Ep. 270: Sheriff Bianco Debates Tony Thurmond

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a California conservative, a libertarian, a moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just the sane person, this is the political podcast for you. It's the California Underground Podcast.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I am your host, Phil, as always with me, my trusted co-host, the best, the fastest researcher in the West, Camille. How are you doing tonight, Camille?

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I am good. Thank you. How are you?

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing well. Keeping busy.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We had a busy week last week in terms of shows and content going out last week. We had two shows. We had a bonus episode all about Kamala Harris. If you haven't checked that out, we went over her whole career in California, how she got to where she was because we figured it was kind of, you know, she is running for president. So it's kind of important we talk about her and she is from California. So we did that. We had Andrew Hayes, who was a fantastic guest.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Andrew is very smart and he's very knowledgeable about all the topics. So it's great to have Andrew on again, focusing back on those local elections. And then I even snuck in a coffee in California politics. So busy week.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I miss that. I seriously feel like I missed a big social event.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's sort of a last minute thing. I was just like, yeah, you know what? I got some time. I was working from home. Why don't I hop on real quick and do a coffee in California politics real quick to kind of follow up on stuff we maybe hadn't covered in the Kamala Harris episode.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, busy week. Tonight we are going to focus again on California politics, but there was big news. There is big Kamala news today breaking news. She has finally picked her VP. This is groundbreaking news.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what everybody has been waiting for and hypothesizing for who she was going to pick because everyone knows that VPs make or break tickets.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But she named her VP. It will be Minnesota governor, Tim Waltz. I knew a little bit about Tim Waltz before this. I did a little bit more reading today.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I was his last name. Waltz. I keep saying it's like Waltz.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're saying like the dance and I don't know.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Waltz or Waltz?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. There's it's W A L Z. So I don't know.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Waltz. I haven't heard his name enough to say either way.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So they picked Minnesota governor Tim Waltz today.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I want to really kind of comment on that quickly and then we'll get back to, uh, what we're actually doing tonight, which is talking about Sheriff Bianco and Tony Thurman.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: If you hear little feetsies in the background, Winnie is exploring the house for some reason.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: My dog just started barking. So this is fun.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It's must be a full moon or something. Dogs are like all over the place right now.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I don't know what's going on.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like all over the place, not sleeping like normal Frenchies.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Frenchies love to sleep and she's wide awake right now.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, uh, my initial thoughts, Tim Waltz.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so here's, here's what I thought.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I think they were planning on picking someone like Josh Shapiro.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think they thought Josh Shapiro makes the most sense.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He's from Pennsylvania.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big swing state.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like basically neither of these candidates can get to the white house without Pennsylvania.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's more moderate.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so that helps out the ticket kind of balances the ticket out, but in a implicit admission from the Democratic Party about how powerful the far left pro-Palestinian wing of the party is, they overlooked them and went with Tim Waltz.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't know if it's because Shapiro said, I don't want to do it.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he wants to wait until 2028 when he can run for president.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So really he's a rising star in the Democratic Party.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, for all those out there who kept saying it's going to be Gavin Newsom.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I never thought it was going to be Gavin Newsom outside of the whole like 12th amendment issue.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I just never thought it would make sense to have two Californians on the ticket.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't think Gavin Newsom won play number two to Kamala Harris.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so Josh Shapiro made the most sense.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think most political nerds who were following say, oh, Josh Shapiro makes the most sense.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's Pennsylvania.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a swing state.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Governor of Minnesota.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's sort of, I guess if you're looking to your VP to help deliver a state that you desperately need.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota is already kind of leaning blue.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it could be a swing state.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It could be a toss up.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but as of right now, it's kind of that light blue leaning blue shade.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's more reliably Democrat.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Trump campaign looks at Minnesota and goes, we can't get to the white house without

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a zero sum game for Kamala Harris in winning that state.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that moves the needle.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it also, the more you look into this walls guy, you do see he is a, uh, far left

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: radical progressive.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's a lot of stuff with COVID.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: If you look at what he did at COVID, he makes Newsom blush.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So like you thought Newsom was bad on COVID.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they were like giving each other notes to be honest.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I have not like, I think you, sorry, I'm interrupting you.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like an hour ago, you were like, Oh, also we're going to talk about walls, waltz, waltz.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, I haven't looked into him at all.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And, and so I sat down right before we got on and spent like 10 minutes reading about

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: some of his stuff.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it's, um, it's not good.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he was in favor of lockdowns.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I know he was, he set up, uh, a site, a website that would allow people to snitch.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We never had that in California.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We never had the snitching website.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was encouraged, but yeah, we never went that far.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely encouraged by California officials to snitch, but they never set up

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: like an official webpage, like, Oh, you can go snitch on your neighbors.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, there were some other crazy things he did during the COVID.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That's absolutely disgusting.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Like snitching on your neighbors on your neighbors, encouraging that.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't it Dr.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Fauci who was like, he, you know, even then he was like, if you see people who are going

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to Thanksgiving, make sure you report them to the authorities.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that he was literally telling people like report people going to Thanksgiving to the

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: authorities.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, as if like the sheriff or the police are going to show up and be like,

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: who cares?

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: These people are celebrating Thanksgiving together.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a Thanksgiving celebration here today on Thanksgiving.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think people really cared about that.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: There were some other things he did and now it's escaping me what he did, but he was

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty radical on COVID.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, big lockdown guy, big supporter of lockdowns, big supporter of snitching on people, lockdowns,

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: but also he was fine with BLM protests.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So he was a strict lockdown governor, but he was also a, we need to allow BLM to peacefully

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: protest, uh, allowing, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of people to gather for the

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: BLM protests.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The picture that has been memed into, uh, the legendary status is the one with the, uh,

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, mostly peaceful protest.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And the guy standing in front of like a burning building that was Minnesota.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So his state was basically ground zero for a lot of BLM activity.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he was obviously in support of BLM.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of social issues.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He's also very far left on in terms of trans rights.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he signed a law that required tampons to be in boys' bathrooms all over the place.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So I, I don't know the more if putting a Uber progressive on the ticket with Kamala Harris,

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: who is already Uber progressive is a good idea.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think it gives them plenty of food for fodder in terms of attack ads.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The Trump campaign has plenty of food for fodder for attack ads, as well as their super packs

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that are sitting on enormous war chests of money that will just run these attack ads through the rust belt

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: all, all the way up until the election.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so does it hurt?

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It could hurt her, but.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It was for like more gun background checks.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It was for more gun background checks.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So while Kamala is trying to like backpedal and say like, Oh, I've never, I don't want

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to ban fracking.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not buying a fracking.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm not for gun confiscation, which are both plays for like Pennsylvania.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know if, if this governor Walsh is going to actually backpedal on a lot of

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: his stuff as well.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Something interesting, interesting the other day, I was listening to a podcast and they were

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: talking about like the VP and who they could pick.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And you and I are political nerds.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like to put it lightly, we spend a lot of time talking about politics.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We spent a lot of time reading about politics and they brought up Hillary Clinton in 2016.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And for the life of me, it took me about a good 10 or 15 seconds being like, who the

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: heck was her VP?

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you remember who it is?

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew where that's where you were going when you said that.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, shoot, this is taking me longer than 10 or 15 seconds.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So who was it?

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It was Tim Kaine from Virginia.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it took me a while to be like, who was her VP?

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess because my point is that like VPs are sort of inconsequential overall, like

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: people aren't running to the polls because they're like, I'm going to vote for this ticket

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: because I love that VP.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that VP is going to do wonderful things.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of inconsequential.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't really move the needle as much as people think they do.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Even, and especially when you're the losing party, like then nobody really remembers who

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: your VP is because like you lost, no one cares who your VP is.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, I, I, I think it's interesting.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't think it's the best pick for her.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's already mumblings on X that like the Democrats have a real bad anti-Semitism

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: problem.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how they address that because while she may say, Oh, this guy was great.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is why I picked him.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's such a leader and you know, all the platitudes they say.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the real reason we all know she didn't pick Josh Shapiro is because they didn't

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: want the party to tear itself apart over this Israel Palestine issue.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So Democrats have a real anti-Semitism issue, how they convey that to voters, especially Jewish

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: democratic voters.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Does Trump make a play for Jewish Democrat voters in New York and make it a little scary?

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, it's, uh, we, we've got our tickets, we've got the two VPs and we've got the two

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: presidents.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, at this point, I think she's locked in.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to do a switcheroo.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of, some people are saying they're going to do a switcheroo at the convention.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they've already like the party has rallied around her.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm sure you have Democrat friends that are already like, hurrah.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I know I do.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I have friends from Minnesota who are very excited about this ticket.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know?

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And just like both sides, like both sides, I, I wasn't jazzed about when they picked JD

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Vance.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't like over the moon being like, yes, this is it.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Jumping up and down and going, oh my God, JD Vance is such a great pick.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't really know a lot about JD Vance.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't really change my feelings about him.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And let's be honest.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: We weren't going to like anyone she picked.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, as Republicans, we were not going to be like, oh my God, she chose that person.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love that person.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm going to vote for her like that.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's like the, you see a lot of these social media posts of like things that

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: never happened of people being like, oh, now that she picked Tim Walz, you know, I'm a

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: MAGA guy, but I'm going to be voting.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's time for a woman president and it's like, I don't think so.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you said, I don't know that it moved the needle really.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a few people out there.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I have liberal friends who were not going to vote for Biden.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: They were very like, I will not vote for Biden.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I will absolutely vote for Trump.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Biden not happening, but Biden's out now.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I don't know where they stand over, you know, with Trump and versus Kamala.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't, I haven't talked to them since.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I have no idea where some of these that were kind of like never Biden's again,

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: like, you know, bye bye Biden.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't know.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, we have to keep in mind a lot of this is like my, which has always been my theory.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think people are picking up on it or other people are saying it's not picking up

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: on my theory.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is just the general theory that people are saying is that the honeymoon is

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: going to start waning for Kamala Harris.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was two weeks ago.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's crazy.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this was like two weeks ago that Kamala Harris jumped into the race and yeah, she's,

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: she's enjoyed a bump.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She's enjoyed that honeymoon bump of everyone.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Astro turfing social media, making it seem like she's the greatest thing to come to the

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: democratic party since Barack Obama.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't think Tim Waltz continues the honeymoon.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: At some point she has to actually get out on the campaign trail and tell people like what

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: her policies are.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So, because so far I don't know what her policies are, like what she stands for.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I saw a video where they asked her on, was it the view about the economy?

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just complete word salad where she smells good.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And she kind of went around and around and then somehow linked the economy.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: The economy inflation is.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's cost more.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And therefore, because prices are high, we pay more because of the high prices, we pay

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: more at the, but she was talking about like defending democracy and abortion.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, how did you get from the economy to defending democracy?

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all you have to do.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Women's rights.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's the only two talking points they ever had.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh yes, the economy.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We're, we're, we'll get there anyway.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Abortion.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And then everyone's like, yes, yes.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Women's rights, women's rights, sports control, abortion.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: This is what we need because if Trump gets elected, we're all the, what was that?

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: The handmaids.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: The handmaids.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_06]: The handmaids too.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I never watched that or read that book.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, which is funny that people say that because Trump was president for four years

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and didn't do any of those things that they're saying he's going to do.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They already said he was going to do before he was president.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to do all the things that they were fear mongering about in 2016 that he never

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: ended up doing when he was president for four years.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But now all of a sudden it's really going to come true.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, those are my thoughts on Kamala because she's a politician from California and

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it's presidential year.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So why not?

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just talk about presidential politics.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's already a honeymoon phase though.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I do think after the DNC, when they like, you know, she's the official, official, even

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: though I think she's already the official, but like once it's official that she's the

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_04]: nominee, I think that that would be like a renewed honeymoon phase.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But then that's probably when she's going to really start campaigning and releasing what

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: her policies are.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And then that's probably when things will either go up or go down, you know, we'll start

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: to see.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll start seeing it.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, if you want to get a little technical, like if you look at the real clear politics

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: average, like popular vote, has she snuck in front of Donald Trump?

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But is this her peak?

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this it for her?

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like she isn't blowing up.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: She isn't matching like what Hillary Clinton did or like what Biden did.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So if this is her peak, that's not very good for them because it means it's going to be

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot closer.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's also also funny enough.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's good for the Republicans that it is a lot closer now, because I think before

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it was such a landslide that like you take advantage of the fact that like, well, it's

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be a landslide.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to do anything.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's spurred the Republican Party into action to be like, OK, we have to get

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: off our butts now and like this is a real race now.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We still got a long time to go.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy how like, you know, 15 days, two weeks is like it feels like an eternity since

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: she's been named or anointed the presumptive nominee.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what's going to happen in two weeks?

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Ballots are going to be dropping about 90 days-ish.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a lot of mail-in ballots going out soon.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they almost turned it perfectly.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But I just want to know if you would support a dance off between Trump and Harris.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not?

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Trump could do his little YMCA dance.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I just.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she could do whatever dance she does.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And Trump does his little YMCA dance.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how we decide the presidency.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's how ridiculous some politics has gotten.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's how we should decide.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we decide the presidency.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like people could maybe make decisions based on.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be like, well, I liked his dance better.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to vote for him.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, on to more California news.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Because before you know it, presidential election will be over.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what's right around the corner for us here in California?

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The governor's race.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And it will not involve Gavin Newsom.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It will involve a whole new cast of characters not named Gavin Newsom.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It will be all fresh games.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: This is totally not what we're talking about.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, he cannot run for governor again.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And we think he wants to run for president.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think he's going to just not run for anything come 2026?

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And like maybe just stay politically active?

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll probably, if Trump wins, I think he steps away from the governor's mansion.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes off and preps his presidential run with his huge war chest that he's sitting on for campaign of democracy or whatever.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it does take a long time to set up.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And usually they announce like a year before, right?

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, isn't it?

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it starts.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like 2027.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he would.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He'd be out of office January 2027, which would put him perfectly to announce running.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: True.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: In the primaries.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: True.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So it almost lines up perfectly for him to like step away from.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It does line up.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Just to start campaigning.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll just roll all that enthusiasm.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Assuming Harris is not president.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Assuming Harris is not president.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: If Trump wins, that's probably going to be.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark it down.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: On this date in 2024, we called it.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll start running in January 2027.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll announce.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: January, February.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll announce his run for presidency.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: If we come back, we get to say, I told you so.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So if most of you didn't know, it was our friend, Danielle,

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: who actually was like, hey, there's a debate on tonight.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't even know there was a debate.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Same.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, Danielle, for letting us know that there was this debate.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a short debate.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It was Tony Thurman versus Chad Bianco.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Sheriff Chad Bianco.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's only 22 minutes long, but it was on Fox 11.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So we want to go over it mostly because Tony Thurman has announced he's running for governor.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And Sheriff Bianco, there's a lot of rumors he will run for governor.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is possibly a preview of two candidates who will be running for governor for California.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I also want to say, I appreciate Alex Nicholson for five.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If I'm your master's name correctly, because it was his show.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: The issue is right.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That did this.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He moderated Alex Nicholson.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel like he was very fair.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not bad.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Alex.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Our good friend, Alex Nicholson.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And I say that just because we met him at the.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_04]: We met him.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, who are you?

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are you?

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He took our car.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You're our best friend.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You're our best friend now.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Good on him for getting this to happen.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, you know, it's not a bad thing that people get on a show.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think more people should debate, to be honest.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: More people in office, even if they're not necessarily going to run against each other.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it brings up and exposes a lot of issues or gives at least we can see the different sides of where people stand on it.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, thinking of like the Newsom versus DeSantis debate that was so random.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think it was great.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I just there should be more of that.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd watch it all day long.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think debates.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's turn a TV show.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Debates.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get to this.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll call it Let's Talk.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you can't.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, well, talk about it off camera, though.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: We can't.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We can't be giving away ideas.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We can't give away all of our ideas.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone will be sitting over coffee and talking.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to say coffee.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You're California now.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so here's the debate.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to kind of watch it and then comment, give our thoughts on this.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, give our final thoughts.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So away we go.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the Tony Thurman, Chad Bianco debate on Fox 11.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's time we put a felon in the White House.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco in a now viral post on Instagram from back

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_07]: in June, where he endorsed Donald Trump for president.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Now, shortly after Trump was convicted in his New York hush money trial, that video, Bianco in his

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_07]: uniform, eliciting calls from Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurman for an

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_07]: investigation and a debate.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Making an endorsement in a state taxpayer funded uniform and badge would seem to violate the

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: rules that we have.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: If the sheriff wants to be governor, I think that there ought to be a debate.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, with more, we are joined by Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco and California Superintendent

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: of Public Instruction Tony Thurman.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here and taking the time out.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: We made it happen.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Good to have you.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to start with that very incident.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll start with you, Superintendent Thurman.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Where does that investigation stand?

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you gone to the Attorney General of California, Rob Bonta, to open an investigation into the

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: sheriff?

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: My understanding is that there are some who are looking into it.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But again, we're here because I was just struck that you'd have someone who would say that

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: they want a felon in the White House.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And as many of the issues that we're talking about have to deal with public safety, just

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the concern that someone would advocate for a person who tried to overthrow our government

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and in doing so cause the harm of many people, including police officers.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And so.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Pause.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect timing.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, commercial break anyway.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Commercial break.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_04]: First off.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: She right off the bat asks Tony Thurman, you know, did you so have you filed a complaint

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_04]: or something to open an investigation into this?

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And he says, my understanding is there's people doing it.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he brushes it off and then goes off to say the reason we're here is because

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_04]: he said.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he wants a felon in the White House.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, we know that's like some little tongue in cheek thing that people are saying,

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_04]: which I think it's cringe of like, I'm voting for a felon, like cute.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Get out of here.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and Tony is very intelligent and he knows that he knows that that's exactly what Sheriff

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Bianco is saying and doing.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's just doing the, the little cringy felon in the White House thing.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But what he's really mad about is that Sheriff Bianco endorsed Trump.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, let's not pretend that if it was, if he had endorsed Biden, because that was who

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: the nominee was at the time, Tony Thurman would have never, ever said anything.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And so he's like, he keeps switching his reasons for why this debate is happening.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: This debate is happening because he endorsed somebody while in uniform.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: This debate is happening because he endorsed someone who tried to overthrow the government.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_04]: This debate is happening because he wants to run for governor.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what is it?

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you are actually concerned, you go open the freaking investigation yourself.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, Sheriff Bianco is an elected official.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: The FPPC is wide open for complaints.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You and I have done plenty of them.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, Tony Thurman has been in office long enough and he's a super intelligent man and he knows

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: this.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And so for him to deflect, to be like, I believe someone else is looking into that.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You're the one with the issue.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: You take care of it.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't wait around for someone else to solve your problems.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is to everyone like, quit crying.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, oh, this happened.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: This happened.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_04]: What are we going to do?

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Someone needs to fix it.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Go fix it yourself.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Go complain yourself.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, come on.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's my commentary.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: One minute into this.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's anybody who has access to the tools and the levers to make this investigation

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: happen, it will be Tony Thurman.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He's up there in Sacramento as the head of an entire state department.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm sure he has Rob Bonta's cell phone number.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he knows where his office is.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, this comment was made.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many months ago.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a long time ago because when was Trump found guilty?

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We did.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we did that episode a long time ago.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So April, May.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was several months ago.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, there's been no news of whether or not there's been an investigation opened into

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Sheriff Bianco.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And you would think in California, they would pounce on the opportunity if this was like,

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: if this was legitimate, they would have pounced on the opportunity and Rob Bonta because

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll get into it later.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But Tony Thurman and Rob Bonta did not wait at all when they wanted to bring the hammer

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: down on Chino Valley with AB 19 with like the transgender power or parental notification.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Tony Thurman literally showed up.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he literally showed up at the meeting.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he took the opportunity to go there.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Rob Bonta made a whole big thing about Newsom made a whole big thing about it.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the fact that he's kind of, for lack of a better term, kind of like pussyfooting

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: around like, well, there might be an investigation.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Some people are looking into it.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, eh, nobody's looking into this.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if, if they really want to make an example of Sheriff Bianco, who is wildly popular here

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: in California, likely if he announces likely to be the majority, like overwhelming

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: front runner for the Republican party to be the gubernatorial candidate in 2028.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, six, this would have, this would have happened already.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And, and if his, his reason is, well, you're a tax pay, you know, you're sitting in a taxpayer

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: funded car and you're doing a tax, but you're paid by the taxpayers.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Well then like, I guess no politicians and nobody elected can ever endorse anybody.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But he wants to make it about the uniform, but like, that's probably how Tony Thurman shows

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: up to work.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's technically in uniform here.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, did you use your Tony Thurman's being a little bitch about this?

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you use, uh, your taxpayer funded salary to buy that suit that you have?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that taxpayer funded uniform you're wearing right now?

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Tony Thurman.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that like, so, you know, it's, that's one of the lamest reasons to say, well, he's,

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: you know.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Joe is, is this show recorded in LA?

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He probably used tax dollars to fly to it.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where, I think he lives up North.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine so in Sacramento, I mean, Riverside, Sheriff Bianco probably just drove

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: over, but, um, yeah, it's all, it's already sort of a bad start for Tony Thurman that like

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: he's trying to, and you can see like Sheriff Bianco is already sitting there and smugged.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like rolling his eyes and he's like smirking.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, this is like, oh man, this is really what he's going to try and bring up right out

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: of the gate.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So, all right, let's keep going.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, was that a bit of a, it actually is.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_05]: There are many things that are concerning to me that he just said, but the biggest one

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_05]: was him coming on line and trying to somehow truly, it was him get a little bit of fame

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_05]: for his governor run off of a viral video.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And the disturbing thing for me was that we have the person in charge of education in our

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_05]: state that failed to educate himself, do his homework about whether or not it was true

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_05]: or not that I violated some law.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And then he went on national or local news, uh, saying that I did.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And he repeatedly social media saying that I have violated these, these laws.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So the truth of the matter is I did not.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I have spoken to numerous investigators over the last five years because there's always

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05]: people that don't know the law and they complain and they file complaints.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I have spoken to local investigators and federal investigators.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And regardless of what he thinks, the sheriff is, does not apply to that law or that rule.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And I am exempt because I'm an elected official and the specifically the office of sheriff does

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_05]: not apply to that.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_05]: A chief of police would, one of my employees would, and then a technical part of the law

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_05]: that of course he didn't educate himself on is that I am not considered an officer or an employee

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_05]: of the sheriff's department.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I am the elected sheriff of Riverside County and I am separate from the employees of the organization.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_05]: If I could.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a lot of thoughts on that.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_05]: If I could.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_07]: And the fact that he's wearing the uniform today.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, you know, anyone can make a mistake, but when the sheriff doubled down

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_02]: as an elected official to say that it's his badge, his uniform, he can do with it what he wants.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's disrespectful to the people who elect us.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there are rules.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not about whether or not you're elected or you're a rank and file officer.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_02]: There are clearly established rules that say that public officials, elected officials

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: don't engage in politics when we are on the clock, when we are working.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's all we were saying.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_05]: There are actually there are no laws that say that.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And the fact that we're there, we're sitting here talking about things that are not true.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And now I have told everyone, including yourself, that you are completely wrong.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_05]: You have accused me of committing a crime multiple times on television and your social media.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Anytime you want to fix it and apologize.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll wait.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: There is no open investigation into the sheriff.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: My office doesn't have the power to do an investigation.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We're reaching out to state agencies that can.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is not the first time that this has happened.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There's been a L.A.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: County sheriff who did the same thing, made a political endorsement in uniform, and he took

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: it back.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And you doubled down on it.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_07]: And that just said a lot of things like the Hatch Act and other things where you're not

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_07]: supposed to do official work.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I will let people bury themselves as much as they want.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And when it keeps getting worse and worse and worse, then I'll show you the letters.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I guarantee.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a comment?

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I do.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So Herman just brought up that there was an L.A.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody sheriff something who did this and then took it back.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That's cowardly.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, cool story, bro.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's being a coward.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm so tired of these, like, oh, I, I was, you know, people, people complained

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_04]: or people didn't like what I said.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I take it back.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, I don't.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That's stand by what you say.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you found out that you were absolutely wrong, then you should say I was wrong.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But this is, this was a matter of opinion that he's talking about.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Somebody endorsed somebody.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: That's their, their opinion is that that person is the best person for the job.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And so he's like encouraged, like, well, you need to take it back.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Nope.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Nope.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: No take backs.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That's again, that's just cowardly.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So Tony Thurman supports cowardly behavior.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Not cool.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Tony Thurman supports bullying people into submission.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what it comes down to.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what he's a fan of.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, we've seen that in his history that he's a fan of bullying people into submission.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, this comes back to the fact that if, if this was so wrong and so illegal, every sheriff's department in California has legal counsel, whether it's counsel that works for him or it's outside counsel.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's lawyers everywhere.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And if there was a problem with what Sheriff Bianco did and legal counsel stepped in and said, you know, sheriff, like you shouldn't have done that.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, because I'm, you know, based on this law, like you shouldn't have done this.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Then maybe he'd, okay, maybe he'd have to retract it and go back.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that it's been so long and there's been no consequence, there's been no investigation, there's nothing going on, makes me think that, yeah, Sheriff Bianco's right.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do what he's saying.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny how Tony Thurman backpedaled on like his original claim where he's like, well, he shouldn't do it when he's in uniform or with the badge on or da, da, da.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like public officials can't do that.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he kind of like changed the parameters of why he thinks this is all wrong.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So he just doesn't like that.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He endorsed Trump.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, he doesn't like that.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He endorsed Trump and he doesn't like that.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not backing down.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So, well, any, probably, even though there's no official announcement yet, there's obviously lots of chatter.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure that he would like to tear down Bianco now before, like hopefully get him out.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He'd like to draw first blood.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Bianco is great, but I don't think, and obviously there's, we're going to have a couple of years before we even see this, but I just, I don't see a Republican getting elected as governor of California next election.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But Tony Thurman's over there shaking in his tax paid dollar shoes.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of funny.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: If nothing else, the one that if somebody had asked me about like why it's important having a governor, like who can, who can speak out, even though there's like a, you know, way outside chance of them winning here in California.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I still think it's important to have an outspoken Republican governor who is going to at least use their platform to call out everything that's wrong with California.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and he has a track record of doing so.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And he has a track record and he's, he's very popular.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that goes a long way to get people.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like the whole presidential, like you want to help the down ballots.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of helps the idea of like, you want to get people engaged.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to get people knowledgeable about the issues.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to call out what's going on in California.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of reminds me of like Travis Allen, like Travis Allen was very outspoken.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He was very, you know, no holds barred.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He was wildly popular.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The Republican Party decided we like people with money.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So they went with John Cox instead and like killed all of his momentum.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think like he was a great Republican candidate because he had no issue calling Newsom out.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so maybe that's why they're going after him now because they're like, you know, we want to knock him down a bit so that he doesn't cause problems and get people all riled up in 2026.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So to you, if he complained, which I think he did, they won't tell me they block out the address, but he got the same letter that they send me and say, this is what we gave them.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And it explains that the office of sheriff is different.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about, let's talk about, uh, public safety, which you know a lot about you do too, as well, of course, but you as sheriff, you're very much against prop 47.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: There is a ballot on the upcoming, uh, election on in November to amend prop 47, which for our viewers, a little refresher that this reclassifies nonviolent crimes from felonies to misdemeanors.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And on the ballot, this November will be prop 36, which is the amendment to prop 47.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is this the answer in your belief to solving the crime public safety issue?

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't the end all answer, but we know in a public state from a public safety standpoint.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And really the voters know 80% of the population of California knows that prop 47 has been the beginning of the end really was AB 109, but prop 47 then started the ball rolling.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_05]: The beginning of the end for public safety in California, whether you're talking about homeless, whether you're talking about drugs, whether you're talking about theft, all of those things drastically increased.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And you can look and see the drastic increase since 47.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone knows what those consequences were going to be.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_05]: We told the legislature what those consequences were going to be, and we've tried to get it fixed.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_05]: We know now that we were 100% lied to by our state government, specifically our attorney general, who happens to be the person he's endorsing for president now.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And we were sold a bill of goods with the safe streets and safe schools initiative, which we know now had nothing to do with safe streets and safe schools.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It was about decriminalization.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_05]: It was about no accountability for criminal behavior, raising the limits of theft, no accountability for drugs.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It should be a crime of what we have done with drugs and the homeless in that we cannot get them into services now.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And that was all taken away by prop 47.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_07]: So this effort to reform prop 47, now prop 36, has been supported by some liberal Democrats, including the mayor of San Francisco, the mayor of San Jose.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Do you support it?

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: First thing I want to say, just in correction, Sheriff, the legislature didn't pass prop 47.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The people did.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The people of California did.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: An overwhelming vote.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But to that point, people are tired of having their cars broken into their homes and their businesses.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I myself have had two different times a car broken into my daughter's car stolen.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: We do need accountability.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I've been on a lot of police ride along.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I come from a law enforcement family.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I was raised by two police officers.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: My brother's retired police.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And as I talk to officers, they talk about arresting the same person twice in the same night.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there has to be reform.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're taking a look at prop 36.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working with a lot of legislators right now as we speak to create real consequences for those who commit retail threat, to go after those rings who are helping to steal the stuff and then sell it again on eBay and other places.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We need change.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But just locking people up is not the solution.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We need intervention programs.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And as governor, I would start a campaign immediately to put 2,000 more officers on the streets of California to help keep our communities safe and to build intervention programs to also make sure that we have ways to prevent the crime.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So do you back prop 36?

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking a look at it right now as we speak.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know yet.

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you supposed to agree with Bianco on anything?

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I love Bianco's reaction where he's just like, are you kidding me?

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like literally went back in his chair.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're on audio and you didn't see it, you literally went back in his chair, rolled his eyes and put his hands up.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's funny seeing Democrats.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this would have been a good point to bring up is like, well, why did your party try and kill prop 36 all these times?

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you?

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Why did your party try and introduce poison pill legislation?

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is your party so afraid to let prop?

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's the big question for me is like, why are Democrats so afraid of prop 36 passing?

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, well, just London breed apparently supports it.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know that, but so it's Alex just said that.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's yeah.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, she's trying to moderate because San Francisco is obviously in a lot of trouble.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's a whole mess.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But right here, right now, he couldn't even say I agree with a lot that's in there or anything.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's like he just wants to straight up be like, I'm not with you on anything, Bianco.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, we're not.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to agree here.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, there's no like.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Certainly we can reach across the aisle and agree on this.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we definitely need to do something about this in prop 36.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's been passed by the voters in a democratic process.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But they can't.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It just goes to my my theory, which is always, I think, 100 percent accurate is that politicians will never, ever, ever, ever admit they were wrong and that they have to admit defeat.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Democrats in California will never, ever, ever, ever admit that prop 47 and AB 109, all these bills that they did to kind of go soft on crime were an absolute disaster.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They will never admit that they made a mistake.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They will go back.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They will try and tweak it.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll try and say we can reform it.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll say like he's talking about like working with people on different legislation.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, OK, you're the superintendent.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not right in the legislative process.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was former assembly.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he was former assembly.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, maybe or something.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He forgot what job he was elected to do twice.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because clearly it's not like helping education since we're ranked towards the bottom of education.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get to that.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it just it's always true.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Politicians will never, ever admit that they were wrong about something.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And prop 47 is such a perfect example of like, yeah, they'll never admit that they were wrong on prop 47 and they're not going to be wrong.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Prop 47, which was re or was named by now presidential candidate Kamala Harris.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it the Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act or something like that?

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like totally misleading.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they'll never admit that they were wrong.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why they always kind of just talk around the subject of like, well, we need to do this.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to put 2000 police officers on that.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We probably need way more than 2000 police officers in California.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: In San Diego alone city, not county.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You probably need 2000 in San Francisco right now or L.A.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like 2000 in the state is like, OK, so that's not a lot of people to 2000 additional people at the border.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need about 2000 more people at the border, not like the six that Gavin Newsom.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a star, but can we do that like 2000 a month?

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we put like 2000 California National Guard at the border right now?

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that would be a start.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so yeah, it's this is one where I think Bianco obviously has the upper hand.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He knows way more about this than Tony Thurman.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just it's not his area of expertise.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's trying to make it sound like he's making this assertive move on public safety.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: All this working with legislators, authoring whatever, like, OK, maybe that's why education is failing in California.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not paying attention to what you're supposed to be doing.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So I support legislation that creates more accountability for his entire time in the legislature was supporting criminals.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_05]: His first bill was a benefit to a criminal, not the victims.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Name it.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You gave more credits, time, time credits for credit time served.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So they didn't have to pay court imposed fines and costs.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_05]: That was your first bill.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You did it.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to deny it?

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You're missing.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to die?

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You're missing.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_05]: You're missing.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate the opportunity to speak.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what is your vision for public safety?

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: As I've said, I'll put 2000 officers on the street.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working right now in real time with legislators to create more consequences and accountability for him.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: His policy is.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Prop 36.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's his policy.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep playing.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: No, you.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I was allowed to.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You finished your comment.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That was.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That was.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I interrupted.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That was all.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Prop 36.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's his.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's his position.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We have, though.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_04]: In the notes.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We have.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_04]: What Sheriff Bianco was talking about.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm hmm.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It was in 2015.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_04]: AB 1375.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That Thurman authored.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was exactly what Sheriff Bianco said.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_04]: That.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Like increase the amount of credits.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was even.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_04]: People that were in for felonies as well.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Could.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't fully understand it.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I sent it to you.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Or added it to the notes.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Hoping that you could get all like lawyer about it.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But maybe you don't want to.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But also.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_04]: When he's like.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate the chance to respond.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Deny or.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Or say yes.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I did author this.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_04]: X, Y, and Z.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He immediately deflects and goes.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Answer the damn question.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I already see how he's going to be.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_04]: As a politician.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean he is a politician.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But when he's running for governor.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I already see.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just not going to be able to answer questions.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not going to give straight answers.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_04]: If he even does a.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Actual real debate up on stage.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_04]: With.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You know people that are actually running.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just going to deflect everything.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And just not.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he won't even answer.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He won't.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He won't give real responses.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I get.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's their whole game.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Tired of it.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_01]: From what I understood from this law.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_01]: AB 1375.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it's about.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Fines.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And like you can't imprison someone.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_01]: If they can't pay a fine.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And they lower the amount.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: For the daily fines.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And they can be released.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There was two.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think I only said the one.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I yeah.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand these.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_04]: How they're authored.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you just.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I just.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to try and understand.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I have you.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you just explain.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I just lawyer it up.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Please.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that was the one I was looking at.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So why don't we keep watching.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll see if I can find it.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll see if I can lawyer it up for you.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: For anyone who commits a crime.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Whether it be retail theft.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Or anything.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: In my experience as an elected official.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I've done more to help reduce violent crimes.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: In the cities that I've represented.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: By building strong programs.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Working with law enforcement.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What's your vision?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you just made that whole thing up.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: My record is clear.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I've spent 31 years.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_05]: In law enforcement.

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: On the front lines of law enforcement.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Trying to keep people safe.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Arresting the same people over and over.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: While the people in Sacramento.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Him.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Repeatedly voted for soft on crime policies.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Making us less safe.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: More rights.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And benefits to criminals.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Than actual.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_07]: How do you respond to that superintendent?

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean what he's saying is that in the past.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Your proposals were soft on crime.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_07]: How do you respond to that?

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You're talking about the future.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_07]: But in terms of your past voting record.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I disagree with the blatant mischaracterizations.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That the sheriff is making.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like you're making this personal.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked you what your vision was.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: For keeping our state safe.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't heard you say that.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You're looking for ways to attack my record.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That speaks for itself.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I led programs that are record proven.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: In the country.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: For reducing violent crime.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: In our communities.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And I will continue to do that.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Here in our state.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me ask you.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You have made the official announcement.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: To run for governor in 2026.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's correct.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Why haven't you taken the time.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: To formulate an opinion about Prop 36.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it is such a controversial.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And important ballot in November.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very new measure.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That I'm taking a look at.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately the voters will decide.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: If they're going to pass it or not.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I've spent the last several weeks.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Working on measures that I think are important.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: To this state.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Including how do we give immediate consequences.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: To those who commit crimes.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Those bills are going to be passed.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Any day now.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And I've been working on that.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: As well as building programs.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He you know.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Said.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_04]: To be.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Thurman said to Bianco.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You haven't given a plan.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_04]: For your safety.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Again.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Bianco.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Has not said he's running for governor.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_04]: There's chatter.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_04]: People want him to.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't said I'm running for governor.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Therefore.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why he's supposed to have all these plans in place.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Because what if he doesn't run for governor?

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Why?

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Why is he going to have plans?

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And then.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Now here we go with Thurman again.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_04]: With all the measures he's working on.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Thurman.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You have a job.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Superintendent.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a job right now.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That you should be doing.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're already running for.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You're already running for governor.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Two years away.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Please do your job.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's summer break.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you could be working on things that.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Could be implemented into.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Fixing education for this coming school year.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But now it's going to start.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Like this month.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess most schools start this month.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I forget.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We're already in August.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like looking at Bianca.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like well where's your plan?

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Well that's not my job bro.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So there was another bill that I found.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Regarding.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This was SB 10.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Establishes new provisions for the criminal justice system.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That he voted on.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He voted in support of.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Requires the Department of Corrections to conduct a pretrial risk assessment of individuals before they're released without bail.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Prohibits defendants charged with public offenses and deemed a high risk from being released from custody with money bail.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Authorizes the individual or entity in charge of jail to approve and sign a pretrial release order with a collection of money bail.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Defines that a release agreement includes the following information.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: A promise to appear at all court ordered times and places.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: A promise not to depart the state of California.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: An agreement to waive extradition.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: An agreement to obey all laws and orders by the court.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: This is one that I think in terms of pretrial assessment.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of look at whether or not they should let this person out.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is sort of the whole thing with like bail.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And how do you set bail?

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Reading between the lines.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This seems like it went softer on bail.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And made it harder to keep people in jail on bail.

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're looking for an example.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: SB 10 is one law that he voted in support of.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Programs to support some of our important needs in the state.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Just yesterday we launched a new campaign.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's going to allow us to build 2 million more housing units in the state.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working on addressing homelessness.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the superintendent working on homelessness?

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not your job.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be a really long podcast.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Just being so annoyed at this guy for not doing his job.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I want her.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I want.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'm going to go file and comply with the FPPC about this guy.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Like literally not doing his job.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And here he's fully admitting it.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That that's.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He's busy with all these other random things.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about dereliction of duty.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like coming after Sheriff Bianco because he recorded a phone video supporting Trump.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And now he's like here I am.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm working on stuff for homelessness and you know things for housing.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like that's not your job.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I said that's your job.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Lance Christensen would have been done much better if they hadn't put him at the tiny bottom of the ballot under the judges where most people I don't think look because most people don't pay attention to judges.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I think that Lance would have been like almost tied with Tony Thurman.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of got screwed on them.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Has nothing to do with this.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Ballot placement is a big thing.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And Lance is a good guy who knows a lot about it.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Lance watches this and pulls his hair out.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Well and Lance actually has.

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He's an educator.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he has a history in education.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_01]: This wasn't you know.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know this wasn't a step up for him from the legislature so that he could.

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Pave his way for governorship.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And two million homes.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I never get the idea of like we're working on stuff to build two million homes.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the government getting involved in building homes?

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The governor.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Government shouldn't be involved in building.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The one way the government can help build homes.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Is to get the hell out of the way.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the way you get like the government to help build homes.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Is you.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Gut and get rid of CEQA.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And you reduce all the taxes and regulations on builders.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And away we go.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You let the developers come in and build a crap ton of homes.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how you increase home supply.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But the government should not be.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Working on building two million homes.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not your role.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Let the.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Let the free market figure it out.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Just get out of the way.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Even.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_04]: If that is their role.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you be like.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_04]: The superintendent of education should definitely.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You should definitely be on this right now.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_01]: If there's things that I think the superintendent of education should be on.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely homelessness and building housing.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And crime and safety.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Crime and safety is important for schools.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't be at the top of the list though.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Crime and safety issues in the state.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's where I put my.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And these are housing units and public land right with.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Correct.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_07]: School district.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_07]: School district.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Which is a whole nother.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we're going to talk about education in our next break.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So our conversation.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have a housing plan.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Superintendent Thurman and Sheriff Bianco.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I have an education plan.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I'd like to hear it.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_07]: It will continue.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk education.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a break.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_03]: When we come back.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Stay with us.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And welcome back to Fox 7 News.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Again.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to keep moving along here.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is he asking if Sheriff Bianco.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is a sheriff of a county.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Has a housing plan.

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Because he.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not running for governor.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Why does it matter what he says about housing.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Sheriff Bianco's too busy.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know actually doing his job.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: To come up with.

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing like what he's supposed to do.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Not coming up with housing solutions.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I do love how snarky Sheriff Bianco is.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I like.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate that he's not holding back.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I think he'll make a good candidate.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he'll.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll go to the mat with a lot of these.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: These Democrat candidates.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether he wins or not.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Far outside chance.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It will be fun to see him.

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Go in there.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No holds barred.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Next time.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That was Michael.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Marta.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_03]: As now back to our special debate.

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_03]: We turn to the issue of education.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Earlier this month.

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_03]: As we reported right here on Fox 11.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Governor Gavin Newsom signed.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Assembly Bill 1955.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_03]: The controversial bill prohibits.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_03]: California school districts.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_03]: From notifying parents.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_03]: About a student's desire.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_03]: To change sexual orientation.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Or gender identity.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Proponents say.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The law protects.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_03]: LGBTQ plus students.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Opponents who have.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Already filed a lawsuit.

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Challenging the law.

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Say it violates the rights of parents.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Now back to our special debate.

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Between California Superintendent.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Of Public Instruction.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Tony Thurman.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And Riverside County.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Sheriff Chad Bianco.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_07]: So Mr. Superintendent.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Since this is your purview.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Let's start with you.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_07]: You support this.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Why is it a good idea?

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I've worked on SB 1955.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Here are the facts.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And actually.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It does nothing to block their.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to get into.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_04]: This bill.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But isn't this AB.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It's AB 1955.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is SB.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Which okay.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a big deal.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But like he's talking about.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_04]: How he's you know.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Read this so much.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Or worked on it so much.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he has no idea.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Who actually.

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: The assembly.

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Where it actually came from.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Senate.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And so.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I won't get into.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We've obviously discussed.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_04]: This one a million times.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyone can go back.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And look at probably any podcast.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_04]: From the last two months.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And we have.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally gone over.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_04]: AB 1955.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_04]: A million times.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Carry on.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The right parents.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It actually says.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That when there are any discussions.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That are going to take place.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_02]: About a child sexual orientation.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That that conversation.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Should happen.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That child.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And their parent.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want government.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Involved in making decisions.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_02]: About our children.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that something.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That you'd want to see.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're going to speak.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Against this matter.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But actually what it does.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it protects young people.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stop it right here.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Why there are opponents.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: To AB 1955.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Is they do not want.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The government involved.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: In these situations.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: In making these decisions.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And you have now legalized.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Public employees.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: To make these decisions.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And have the government get involved.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So yes.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: To answer your question.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Thurman.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want the government involved.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is why people are opposed to AB 1955.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Also this.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I paused it on the perfect shot.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If you can see Sheriff Bianco's face.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh I cannot wait.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: To tear this guy a new one.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_02]: From being forcibly outed.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And research shows.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That when you target.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_02]: LGBTQ plus students in this way.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You propel them towards suicide.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: 40% of LGBTQ plus kids.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Are experiencing.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Or considering suicide.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But when you do the opposite.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And you support them.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They do better in school.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: They have better attendance.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And it is just a misnomer.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: For those who have said.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That this takes away parent rights.

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: This actually reaffirms.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: The rights that parents.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And their families should have.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: To work on these issues.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say something.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I said I wasn't going to go off.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But he just said it right there.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He said.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: When you support them.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: They.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: They do better in school.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_04]: They're.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_04]: They're showing up.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_04]: They're.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_04]: They're working hard.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_04]: They're happier.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_04]: They're having less suicidal thoughts.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Or whatever.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is why we need to support them.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But he doesn't want the parents.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_04]: To be allowed to support them.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants it hidden from the parents.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_04]: This is again.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_04]: The separation.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That the government is trying to do.

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Between parents.

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And children.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Of we're going to support them.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to do this for them.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to hide them.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_04]: From the parents.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I said I wasn't going to comment.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But I did.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Because he.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Just said it right there.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Shoes together.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Sheriff.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Bianco.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you have a very different perspective on this.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Since he took.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Over this position.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Talking about.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Mental health.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_05]: 70% increase.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_05]: In mental health issues.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_05]: In high school.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Or I mean.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_05]: In school aged children.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So there's a huge problem there.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_05]: The good thing about talking to a cop.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Especially a leader.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Of a law enforcement agency.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Is you absolutely.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Have to get the truth from me.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_05]: It is impossible for me.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Unless I want to be fired.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And removed.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_05]: For lying.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't lie.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_05]: As a cop.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_05]: There's only one of us here.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That can do that.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_05]: This bill is absolutely.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Horrible.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This bill is absolutely.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Horrible.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And it certainly.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Takes away the rights of teachers.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_05]: To inform parents.

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And what it does.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it prevents.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_05]: School districts.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_05]: From having their own rules.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And laws.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Of saying that teachers.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Will notify parents.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Or that you.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_05]: A teacher.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Can notify a parent.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_05]: This took away.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: This took away that ability.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: For schools to do that.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_05]: In the event.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_05]: We come up with a policy.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_05]: That says.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You can no longer talk to the students.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_05]: An end around.

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Ridiculous.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Law.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That as a parent.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And as a grandparent.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely horrible.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_05]: That.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_05]: There is no parent.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: In the state.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_05]: That supports this.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're going to put law.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to pass a law.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to make some policy.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The role of government.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Not even close to the role of government.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it the role of government.

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: To interfere in the lives of families.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And their children.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And to tell them what they should.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And shouldn't do.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You just did.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You are making.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The case.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You are not as slick.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: As you think Mr. Thurman.

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You are making.

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The case.

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: For the other side.

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: In my head.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm giving Bianco.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: A standing ovation right now.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're literally.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Making our case.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The government should not be involved.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: In these decisions.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And families.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't support AB 1955.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Stop passing laws.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Stop passing laws.

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like AB 1955.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Did that by passing 1955.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you agree or disagree?

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I just said that government.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Should not be involved.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: In the lives of our families.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And that this is a decision.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That should get made.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Between parents and their children.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you agree or disagree?

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You're absolutely right.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why government.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Should stay out of it.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I support this bill.

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it keeps government.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: By putting government.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: In it.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Keeps teachers.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Teaching.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is their job.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We've heard from a lot of parents.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That say this really just muddies the water.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: When it comes to my parental rights.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: When I drop my kid off at school.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever that they choose to tell.

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: My.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Their teacher.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That should.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That should be relayed to me.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So that is their right.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: As a parent.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And you say.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The bill does not say that.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: A teacher cannot engage in communication.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: With the parent.

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It simply says that the district.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Cannot.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure we read the bill.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is quite literally what it says.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot do.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Is you cannot.

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Communicate that.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's literally what the bill says.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So any employees of any of these schools.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Cannot notify parents.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Without the consent of the child.

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it goes down from like.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like the school board.

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: To the.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_04]: The district.

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_04]: The.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Like yeah.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: All.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: All the employees.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I was reading it again last night.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And again.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I am not the best at reading these.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: The text of these bills.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm not a lawyer.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't read stuff like that.

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean I read it.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But I don't know.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like my mind does not think.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: The way that these bills are authored.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It definitely was like.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Or an employee.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Or an employee.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Or an employee.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Of these governing bodies.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So teachers.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Are absolutely prohibited.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I also like.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That Tony Thurman said.

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The job of the teachers.

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Is to focus on teaching.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He's making great points.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Against AB 1955.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The intent of education.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Would be to focus on education.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It requires teachers.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: To forcibly out a student.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Who might be.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Having questions about their safety.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But if.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But if a student says.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be known.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm a female.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And I want to be known.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: As the he pronoun now.

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that what this law says?

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It prevents the child.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Or prevents the teacher.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: From notifying the parent of that.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Teachers don't have the experience.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: To make the decisions.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: About who's LGBTQ plus.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Or who isn't.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And what.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Again.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Did he get it?

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Did he get hit on the head.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Before he walked into this.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's making.

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The argument.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is like that video.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: We showed.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Of that.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And he knows.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He's starting to falter here.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He knows.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That he.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He starts to realize.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He's making the opposite points.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But we showed that video.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Of that progressive Democrat.

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Who was a teacher.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Who came out.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And said.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have the experience.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: To be.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Involuntary.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Co-conspirators.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: In this.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not our job.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not our role.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not mental health professionals.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's making that case.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's making that case.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That teachers are not equipped.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: To handle this.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So why would you make it a law.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That.

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They have to.

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Do this.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: At what point.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Do we expect teachers.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: To start doing investigations.

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: About what students.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We bring teachers in.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: To help them support our kids.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: To learn.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say something.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Kids.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Adults.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Dealing with these issues.

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Of struggling with their identity.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Can get.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Into the rabbit hole of it.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: That they do go into a deep depression.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And are considering suicide.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to deny that.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_04]: What if a kid.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually has supportive.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Parents.

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know.

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You've been a teenager.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You know how teenagers are.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: We like to think that we.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Can solve everything.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And we know everything.

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And we don't need our parents.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Our parents are so uncool.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_04]: When we're teenagers.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And all that.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I have a great relationship.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: With my teenagers.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: What if.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a kid.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Struggling with this.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_04]: They're Josephine.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're now going by Joe.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: At school.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: They.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't know what to do.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: With all of this.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And they do kill themselves.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And parent intervention.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Could have prevented that.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I bet that.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Exists in many cases.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What happens when that.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Situation happens.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And the parents go.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Why.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: What happened?

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Holding the school.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Responsible.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: For holding on to this information.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Results in them.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing harm to themselves.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Because of that.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The lawsuits will fly.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm saying.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Learn.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And all this bill says is.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that when it comes to someone's.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Sexual orientation.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a personal matter.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That should be worked out.

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Between them and their family.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many other issues.

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so confused.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Is Tony Thurman in favor?

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like is he.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he against AB 1955?

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why Bianca is just sitting there like.

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he read SB 1955 or not.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he read the wrong bill.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But he definitely came unprepared to talk about it.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Um.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it sounds like he's.

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the problem with getting.

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: A little out over your skis.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Before.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Long before.

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The gubernatorial race.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_04]: There's Phil and his ancient sayings.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Getting out above.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Skis.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Carry on.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We were already.

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So we got it.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the issues.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Of when you're out on the campaign trail.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: For so long.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Before.

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You give yourself more opportunities.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: To make flubs like this.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And like.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not running a.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: A discipline.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Principle campaign.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's not narrow in focus.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's two years away.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we still have a long time to go.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Before.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We even start thinking about gubernatorial candidates.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Who've announced.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: There's via.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We go.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's Tony Atkins.

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And stuff like that.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But like.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what happens when you do this.

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that you.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Aren't as polished.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You create this fodder.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That like.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Now down the line.

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're.

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They can use this clip.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And be like.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Well.

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like Tony Thurman's.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: In fit.

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Is actually opposed to AB 1955.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Just a little comment on the political.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Politicking of this.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Issues.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Like even.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_07]: A permission slip for a field trip.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_07]: You have to get a parent for.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So why would this go to your parent?

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Where would parents start?

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What they call.

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Every time they heard a child use.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_02]: A pronoun.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't mean anything about their sexual orientation.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_02]: All it says is.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: All it does is take away the right of a parent to be there.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Or a teacher to be a caring adult.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: If the student needs someone to talk to.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Teachers are some of our best mentors.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You talked about counseling.

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: If I could finish.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I brought the resources in.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So we can have 10,000 more counselors in our schools.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So they can get help.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: For the things that impacted them.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Since the pandemic.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would we take away the right of any.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Caring adult.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: To help a young person.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's struggling with their sexual orientation.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Or bullying.

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Or any issue.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If they've come out.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But you just.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But you just said.

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not sexual orientation.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And now you're saying it is sexual orientation.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is what we're talking about in school.

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_05]: They're not coming out.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: They're not being outed.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: They're already outed.

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_05]: They've already outed themselves.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_05]: We're just keeping it from their parents.

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Students don't have rights.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Kids don't have rights.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Now this next part.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he flubs up a little bit.

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not a polished politician.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway.

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a good point.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That he makes.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're already out.

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And you've already told people.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You're out.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you've already outed yourself.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like and that's.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of contradictory.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: In the sense of like.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well if you're already out.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're just keeping it from your family.

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And your parents.

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody will know.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Except your parents.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like your friends.

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Will know.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Classmates will know.

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: That's good.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Teachers will know.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So like why is it.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody at school.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: When they're in school knows.

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But the parents can't know.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good point.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: By Bianca.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like this big secret.

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They've already outed themselves.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I.

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Responsible for my kids.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_05]: My kids didn't have rights.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: From a law enforcement.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Kids have.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Have rights.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Kids.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Parents.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Parents.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Are responsible for their children.

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to say that they're not.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Are.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Well I think it's both right.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Well it depends.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: If.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So I probably misspoke and said yes.

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: They certainly have rights.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: They are U.S. citizens.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_05]: They are humans.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: They have rights.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But parents.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Are responsible for their children.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And that.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't allow.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_05]: They are their legal guardians.

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_05]: We don't allow a year old.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: To decide that he's going to be a dog.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And act like a dog all day long.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Without the teacher saying.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_05]: How is that relevant?

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we have.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we have.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_05]: A problem with your child.

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And their pronouns.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And what they believe.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And you have a right to know.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_05]: What's happening with your child.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I think.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we just heard a dangerous policy.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: In how you view young people.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That they don't have any rights.

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: In comparing them to dogs.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That is.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Caring them to dogs.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't.

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That is.

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is how you know.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's floundering.

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Is because.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a weak.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Ass attempt.

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: At trying to take down.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sheriff Bianco.

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he goes.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh they have no rights.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And you compared them to dogs.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what he said.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't compare them to dogs.

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Said.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to pretend.

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: To be a dog.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: All day.

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Then.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Parents should probably know.

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like your kid.

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Has an issue.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he thinks he's a dog.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's Tony Thurman's.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Feeble attempt.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: At trying to.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Take down Bianco.

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the only attempt.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He has.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Most of the kids.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Who've been forced.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Be outed.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they've called me.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And they've asked me.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: To come to their schools.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: They have not.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Outed themselves.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But someone has decided.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That they should be.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Outed.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Again.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: That goes against.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Their well-being.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And their support.

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's a reckless policy.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're going to be.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Governor of the state.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We could keep.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_07]: We could keep talking about this forever.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_07]: But let's go just more broadly.

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_07]: In terms of education.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Obviously.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_07]: During the pandemic.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_07]: We had learning loss.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_07]: We had a lot of parents.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_07]: That were frustrated.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_07]: That kids.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Mental health issues.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Didn't come back to school earlier.

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_07]: We had the largest school closures.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_07]: In the nation.

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_07]: So going forward.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_07]: What is the plan.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_07]: In terms of.

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Ameliorating some of that learning loss.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And improving California schools.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no question.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Our students.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like adults.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Were impacted by the pandemic.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And mental health.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're dealing with.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Learning gaps.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That actually existed.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Before the pandemic.

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And got worse.

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Our state is better positioned.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Than any others.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_02]: To help our kids bounce back.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We're giving them extra tutoring.

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Longer school time.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We are spending a billion dollars a year.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_02]: In arts education.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Which addresses many things.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Including our students.

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Academics.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Reading coaches.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And specialists.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: To make sure that our kids.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Learn to read by third grade.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're working to make sure.

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That we get 10,000 more mental health.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I may.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long time.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Since I was a little kid.

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I've.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I remember reading.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Before I was in third grade.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Kids learn to read.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: At all different ages.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_04]: What he just said.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_04]: On paper is fine.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Well.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Not the.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Not the fact that we're so far behind.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But as far as what he's.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Doing.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_04]: To.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Increase.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Help.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And education.

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And yes.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think most kids do read.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: By first grade.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're reading.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I know that I have had kids read.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: As early as four.

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And as late as eight.

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: At home school.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That was not a concern for me.

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Um.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They'll.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They'll get it.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And they.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They did.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Bianca's going to make a great job.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Great point next.

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And so.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Health clinicians.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: In our schools.

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: To help our kids.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting free meals.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to make a point.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Our schools have been overcrowded.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: For decades now.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And we also.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: We have a lot.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Of immigration here.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: If you guys had that.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Where you lived.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: For the most part.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: A classroom.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: In New Jersey.

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have that problem.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: In New Jersey.

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: This definitely been.

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: A problem in California.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: For decades.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Already with the overcrowded.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And then.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Out of the immigration.

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Where a lot of school.

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of children.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: English is not their first language.

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And a class can pretty much.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Only operate.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_04]: As fast as the slowest kid.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: For the most part.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Or those kids get left behind.

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And so.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That is.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely a California issue.

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Of kids learning to read later.

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: They're.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You have one teacher.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: 30.

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: 35 students.

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's.

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a tough one.

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: At 900 million.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We fed 900 million families.

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: During the pandemic.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You said there are.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: 900 million.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: 900 million.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: 900 million.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like.

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: 33 million people.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: In California.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: How many.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You fed 900.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: 33 million.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: In the U.S.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So you.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: California fed.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Three times.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: As much.

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: As many people.

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There are in the United States.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: During the pandemic.

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We should look into.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have a huge deficit.

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I.

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we should look into that.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of.

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Scary.

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That the superintendent.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Of education.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: In California.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: California.

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't know.

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: How many people.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Are.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: In.

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The state.

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He.

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We spent 900 million.

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I did look it up.

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And couldn't find.

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: An exact answer.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But I know that.

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_04]: During the.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Pandemic.

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: There was like.

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: 11.5 billion.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: In EBT cards.

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: That went out to California.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It was federal funds.

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Only 9 billion.

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Of them.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Were actually spent.

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Because.

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: The cards.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Which.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You had even mentioned before.

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I know you're not on EBT.

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But like the gas rebate stuff.

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Or whatever.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It looked like junk mail.

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And these funds do expire.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they just go back.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: To the federal.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Um.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_04]: To federal government.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to figure out.

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Where this.

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: 900 million.

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Because.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: 900 million.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: 90 million.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Both of those are inaccurate.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like.

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it.

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The money he was talking about.

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Was it 900 million meals.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Even that.

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Is crazy.

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to spend 10 minutes.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Talking about this.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to know.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: What the heck.

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: He's talking about.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Nine.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We fed 900 million families.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's impressive.

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Impressive.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't exist.

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_06]: World hunger.

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: While we're at it.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: As superintendent.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I cured cancer.

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Which was not my job.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But I did it anyway.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm just such an overachiever.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We're closed longer.

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We actually took the action.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: To make sure that our schools.

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Could open safely.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So that people could be in school.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Safe from COVID.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So they could be learning.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We got a million computers.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: For our students.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I worked on getting.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Eight million dollars.

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: For broadband.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: To make sure our students.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Can learn.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Our schools closed.

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Our kids didn't even have computers.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I dug in there.

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: To make sure that we would get.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: These resources for our kids.

[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I hear you making.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Blame and platitudes.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm very interested.

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: If you have a real vision.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: For serving the students of our state.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they need a great deal.

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I will actually.

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me interject and say.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That we have less than a minute.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Sheriff.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You have hinted at a run.

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: For governor in 2026.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you ready to make that announcement tonight?

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm the sheriff of Versailles County.

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And for the next several months.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: My goal is to make sure that Prop 36 is passed.

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And not lied to.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: To the public.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently he doesn't know either.

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But the public has to know.

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: That Prop 36 must be passed.

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And I've read what the attorney general.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Has now put out in the ballot.

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_05]: For the descriptions.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's another lie.

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's another Prop 47.

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: We need to combat this.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe 30 seconds on education.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Your thought on what he just said.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Well.

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Historically.

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: He has been a social worker.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Not an educator.

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We are the worst in the country.

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: When it comes to education.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: We have the lowest literacy rate.

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_05]: For adults.

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: We have.

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: They celebrate.

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_05]: 34% of our kids.

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Being grade level literate.

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: In math.

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And 46% grade level literate.

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: In language arts.

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And they celebrate that.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_05]: We spend more money per student.

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Than anyone in the country.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And we are the bottom of the list.

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: When it comes to education.

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And now he wants to spend.

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Really waste.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_05]: 14 billion dollars.

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_05]: On 75,000 acres.

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Of school property.

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: What I want to know.

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Where this entire state needs to be fixed.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: How does a school.

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Have 75,000 acres.

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Of real property.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I can address that.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_05]: That is 14 billion dollars.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Real quickly.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_05]: This will be the last word.

[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: The school has failed to educate our kids.

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And they waste it spending money on property.

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: One correction for you, Sheriff.

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I spent 10 years working in our schools.

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Just to be clear.

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get to speak for what my career is.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Just like I wouldn't do that to you.

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Your record does.

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You are someone who has said.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You would support a president.

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Who wants to get rid of the U.S. Department of Education.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That would take away resources.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: For kids with disabilities.

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And special education.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And low income students.

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It actually would.

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: May I finish?

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: May I finish?

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: For governor.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And one of my lead priorities.

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Is to build 2.3 million housing units.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: We are in a housing crisis.

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And it just so happens.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: That our schools across the state.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Possess 75,000 acres of land.

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That can be developed upon.

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And schools have done this.

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They can use surplus property.

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: To build for their teachers.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And classified staff.

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Who cannot afford to live where they work.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a significant opportunity.

[01:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: For California communities.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to help lead it.

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to help lead the state.

[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: To address housing.

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And homelessness.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Final thoughts.

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think.

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's my final thought.

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're.

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We went way over.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Our normal time.

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if you're.

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Tony Thurman.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You go back to the drawing board.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you got taken to task.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: By Sheriff Bianco.

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is not running for governor.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a trained politician.

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a.

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Polish politician.

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's been in the legislature.

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And in the upper halls.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Of Sacramento.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He did.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is.

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Us actually looking at what he said.

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of stuff he said.

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Contradicted what he was trying to prove.

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of AB 1955.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The question of.

[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the superintendent.

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Of education.

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Involved in housing.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And homelessness.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of this stuff.

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's trying to.

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He's pointing.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying to Bianco.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You're pointing the finger.

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And blaming.

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to turn around.

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And say you didn't propose any solutions.

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: To any of these issues.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But again.

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Bianco's not running for governor.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And the whole issue started.

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Bianco.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Was in uniform.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Endorsing Trump.

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And Tony Thurman expected.

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Bianco to.

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Come up with a whole plan.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: To save the state.

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Sounds like once again.

[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Thurman's trying to outsource jobs.

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh I don't need to launch the investigation.

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't need it.

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he thought.

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to roll in there.

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And like.

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Wipe the floor with Bianco.

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And.

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he got.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Resoundingly.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Thumped.

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: This might be a preview.

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Of the gubernatorial race.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: In.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: For.

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Two years.

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Already.

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm.

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Thurman's going to be it.

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Thurman will be it either.

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Out of the.

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Those who've.

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Announced.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You have Tony Thurman.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Tony Atkins.

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Viera Gosa.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll probably.

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll have like a.

[01:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Harris situation.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we'll have someone.

[01:23:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Step in four months prior to the election.

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Running for governor.

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Kamala Harris will run.

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: She might be out of a job in.

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Two years.

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So who knows.

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she runs for governor of California.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Also.

[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm confused about this school land.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean.

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't live in like.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You know.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: A whole rural area.

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And maybe there are schools.

[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Sitting on acres and acres.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But like.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: In my head.

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm picturing.

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: They're building housing.

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: On like the football fields.

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And so.

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just wondering.

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what.

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't literally mean that.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But like for real.

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: What.

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: What is the land currently being used for.

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Across these schools.

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it there.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it their PE time?

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it their what?

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like.

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: What are.

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not being used at all.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And why do they have so much?

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I would like to know more about that.

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Why.

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the government holding on to so much real property.

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then claiming.

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have enough housing.

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good question.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But we went way over.

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Any final.

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Other final thoughts.

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Before we look.

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a jam-packed episode.

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Got a lot to get through.

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the way.

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Until the presidential election.

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We still got propositions.

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't even.

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Dove into the propositions.

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably have to do several episodes on that.

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's.

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So many.

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably have to break it into a couple different episodes.

[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: More candidates.

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: More people coming on.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a busy stretch from here until November.

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