Ep. 267: Newsom Eliminates Parental Rights

[00:00:06] If you're a California conservative, a libertarian, a moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just the sane person, this is the political podcast for you. It's the California Underground Podcast.

[00:00:27] What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I am your host, Phil. And as always with me, my trusty cohost, the best and fastest researcher in the West, Camille. How are you doing today?

[00:00:38] Good. Good. I'm good. How are you?

[00:00:40] Good. Still reeling from a crazy week last week with the assassination attempt and the RNC and Trump naming J.D. Vance and our episode last week, which was great to have Zach on and get his opinions. There's a lot to cover.

[00:00:56] But it's always nice to take a little break from the California politics when there's a big story like that, because I feel like we always, you know, you can't not talk about a story like that.

[00:01:07] But now, today's episode, we're going hard back into California politics with two different bill issues that we want to talk about. So yeah.

[00:01:18] I know. I feel like last week, there was like the news was just constant. And I literally needed a break. I feel like there's been a little bit of a break.

[00:01:30] Yeah, it feels like it's since Thursday. Yeah, go ahead.

[00:01:34] Well, sorry. I read like Kalanatters and California Globe every day, but I actually took a break. Like I'm like, okay, there's so much national news going on. And I just like, you know, like I can't, I can't absorb it all. And so I literally took a break from like reading all that every day, which I don't, I want to be informed, but it was just nice to kind of like, okay, just take a step back. But now we're back to California.

[00:02:00] Now we're back to California stuff. Right. Well, I mean, there was a lot last week. I mean, starting on Saturday with the assassination attempt. And then there was the RNC and then they named JD Vance's VP.

[00:02:11] And then mixed in amongst all that is these rumors swirling around that Biden's going to announce, you know, the following weekend. And now it appears like I saw a tweet that said Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are now siding with Joe Biden telling them like, no, you should stay in the race.

[00:02:32] When you have like Obama and Pelosi on the other side being like, no, you should get out of the race. I'm like, is there a little friction between the factions of, you know, the Democrat party, the old guard and the new guard, like the Clinton faction and the Obama faction. So this could get really messy.

[00:02:49] I'm going to make this terrible joke. Anyway, the Clintons are just trying to set themselves up to look innocent when Joe Biden dies.

[00:02:57] When he dies.

[00:02:59] Joe Biden did not kill himself.

[00:03:01] But when he suddenly.

[00:03:04] Yes.

[00:03:05] The Clintons are involved. And when suddenly Joe Biden passes away, they're gonna be like, no, we supported him. See, we wanted him in. We weren't involved in this.

[00:03:13] We were all in favor of old Joe running again. Like, sweet. We had no ill intentions.

[00:03:19] Joe, don't come after me.

[00:03:20] Yeah. Don't shut down our podcast.

[00:03:22] Um, so.

[00:03:25] I'll, I think it would be interesting if they end up having a brokered convention.

[00:03:29] I've never seen a brokered convention in my lifetime.

[00:03:32] I don't think many people.

[00:03:34] There's a lot of things we've never seen in our lifetimes that now we're all like living through these.

[00:03:40] Yeah.

[00:03:40] A global pandemic.

[00:03:43] Never thought I'd see that.

[00:03:44] Um, an assassination attempt on a president.

[00:03:46] Never thought I'd see that.

[00:03:48] Um, maybe a broker convention is the next thing.

[00:03:51] I don't.

[00:03:51] I actually don't know when the last brokered convention is.

[00:03:55] But.

[00:03:56] No, when it rains, it pours.

[00:03:57] But anyway.

[00:03:59] Anyway, that's not, that's not what we're talking about tonight.

[00:04:02] We're talking about California politics.

[00:04:04] Um, probably the most controversial thing that we want to start off talking about is Gavin Newsom signed AB 1955.

[00:04:13] And if you don't know what AB 1955 is, uh, it was a bill by assemblyman Chris Ward and the bill prohibits schools from notifying parents if their child is quote gender confused or transitioning to the opposite sex.

[00:04:29] Horrifyingly, the bill's title is super support academic futures and educators for today's youth act.

[00:04:36] That is from California globe.

[00:04:38] Um, so Chris Ward is from San Diego.

[00:04:43] Actually, he was, uh, I think before I'm, he was my, my assemblyman in the district I used to live in, but now I don't think he is anymore.

[00:04:53] And that's so funny when we were chatting, I meant to ask you that, like right before we hopped on with your move.

[00:05:00] I didn't know if you had switched districts of anything.

[00:05:04] I think so.

[00:05:05] Yeah, I think we, we probably switched districts.

[00:05:08] I haven't double checked on that yet.

[00:05:10] Um, but I don't think he's my assembly member anymore.

[00:05:14] And so, yeah, it is his bill.

[00:05:16] I know I've seen a lot of people say that Scott Wiener authored this bill.

[00:05:22] He did not, it was Chris Ward's bill.

[00:05:25] Um, I'm trying to see if, did he coauthor it is the question.

[00:05:30] I mean, of course he supported it.

[00:05:32] I mean, of course he supported it.

[00:05:34] I mean, there's no question he would absolutely support it.

[00:05:38] Uh, but yeah, he was the one who, who put this forth.

[00:05:42] Now, if you don't know like why this is a big deal, you, we kind of got to go back.

[00:05:47] We've had, um, a couple of people on, uh, who have talked about what has been going on in schools

[00:05:55] regarding this parental rights, uh, notification.

[00:05:59] We had Sonia Sean, who was part of, well, she was Chino, Chino Valley school board, Chino Valley

[00:06:06] school board.

[00:06:06] And Sonia explained really kind of what happened was, uh, schools were being, well, school, they were

[00:06:14] implementing these policies and it, correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:06:18] You can jump in here.

[00:06:19] So basically there was this issue of like, they were not telling parents if children were

[00:06:24] identifying as like transgender or they were transitioning.

[00:06:28] And then, uh, districts like Chino Valley came out with ordinances voted on by their school board

[00:06:34] that said, no, if you are aware of something, you have to notify the parents and let them know what's

[00:06:40] going on.

[00:06:40] And that caused like a big uproar with those in Sacramento.

[00:06:46] Uh, uh, Tony Thurman came down.

[00:06:48] He is the head of, uh, education here in California.

[00:06:52] Rob Bonta got involved.

[00:06:54] Gavin Newsom got involved and it became a whole thing of like,

[00:06:57] they, they were just, they couldn't stand for the fact that they were allowing this ordinance.

[00:07:02] You think like a little school district should not draw the ire of such big state officials,

[00:07:07] but it did.

[00:07:08] Um, so they came down, they sued Chino Valley.

[00:07:11] Uh, it's become a whole thing.

[00:07:13] Other schools start to jump in and do the same thing where they were doing parental right

[00:07:17] notifications.

[00:07:19] And it sort of was starting to catch kind of steam and momentum where this was becoming more

[00:07:25] and more popular with school districts of, well, yeah, we as parents should know like what's

[00:07:30] going on with our children, especially if it's something like sexuality and like what they

[00:07:34] think their gender is like, maybe we should know about that.

[00:07:37] Um, so Chris Ward put out this bill, which now squashes all of these local ordinances because

[00:07:46] it now bans any county or city or local school from making any of these parental rights notifications.

[00:07:54] So that's sort of where we're at right now is the state has made it illegal for schools to, uh,

[00:08:03] enforce these parental right notification or answers.

[00:08:06] And basically if a child is transitioning or talking about transitioning, or if they are

[00:08:13] transgender, the school is not allowed to inform the parent without the pupil's consent is what

[00:08:20] I understand after reading the bill.

[00:08:22] So yeah.

[00:08:24] Can I give a good background?

[00:08:26] Well, so the bill does say if they choose to use different pronouns at school.

[00:08:32] So the child may not be physically transitioning, but maybe playing with the idea of like, I,

[00:08:39] you know, I'm Camille and now I'm feeling like maybe I'm, uh, you know, Connor.

[00:08:47] And, um, and so they can start using that name as like, obviously that's like, uh, you know,

[00:08:55] male pronoun or it's a male name and they can start using like, I, so I could be like, I am now

[00:09:00] he, him, I am Connor.

[00:09:03] I'm going to try this out.

[00:09:06] And so teachers can be like, okay, cool.

[00:09:09] Connor, we'll go with that and not tell your parents.

[00:09:12] And I may not be like actually physically transitioning or taking any sort of hormones

[00:09:16] or blockers or whatever, but okay.

[00:09:20] Okay.

[00:09:21] So before we dive into like what this really means as far as the pronouns and all that

[00:09:28] and sexuality, this is once again, Sacramento has come in and taken local control away.

[00:09:35] Mm-hmm.

[00:09:36] School boards should have, you know, each like I'm in orange County.

[00:09:42] Um, the district, the school district that I'm in very conservative and, um, they've have

[00:09:49] passed a lot of, uh, things like banning a lot of things.

[00:09:53] They were one of the first in the state to be in CRT.

[00:09:55] And, um, I know that like we had Leandra blades on.

[00:09:59] She's my, I think she's either the president or vice president of my local school board, even

[00:10:03] though I homeschool, so I'm not a part of that.

[00:10:06] But, um, I know they were banning this as well.

[00:10:10] They were like not banning the, they were allowing teachers, school administrators to

[00:10:15] discuss this with parents.

[00:10:16] Like that was a thing.

[00:10:18] Um, and now I guess that's been taken away.

[00:10:20] Now, like I said, I live in a very conservative area.

[00:10:23] My school district, very conservative.

[00:10:26] We vote conservative.

[00:10:28] We are one of the reddest cities in California, if not in America.

[00:10:32] And I think I jokingly brag to you about that all the time, whenever we make a list and

[00:10:37] I kind of, you know, I like send you like, like, so you're not on this list.

[00:10:41] My city is, but, um, so my, my city, that's how we primarily vote and believe.

[00:10:50] And we're not Los Angeles.

[00:10:53] I get that.

[00:10:54] We are not a San Francisco school district.

[00:10:57] Um, very, very different, very different beliefs.

[00:11:02] We discuss that often.

[00:11:03] And that's why local government matters so much because people want to run things different

[00:11:07] ways.

[00:11:08] And then Sacramento comes in and says, no, that's, you don't have any right to do that.

[00:11:13] We're taking away your right to do that.

[00:11:16] And, and then they take it a step further.

[00:11:18] And now we're going to like hide something so extreme from parents.

[00:11:22] That's another thing.

[00:11:23] It's separate parents from, um, from children, from their children.

[00:11:29] And we like, I'm sure you saw when you posted the real, there was a ton of backlash.

[00:11:35] Um, I forget who was speaking, but you had posted a reel about it.

[00:11:39] And there was obviously like a ton of backlash comments on your post.

[00:11:42] People saying, if you're a parent and you don't know what's going on with your child,

[00:11:46] then you're dead at whatever.

[00:11:47] Like you're a terrible parent.

[00:11:48] You're this.

[00:11:49] And you know what?

[00:11:50] I don't, I think that the majority of parents are trying to do the best they can.

[00:11:54] There's always going to be rotten apples, but the majority of parents are doing the

[00:11:56] best they can.

[00:11:57] And in California, most families are dual income because we can't afford to not be.

[00:12:05] And so your children are going to school like eight hours a day, then, you know, possibly

[00:12:12] doing homework or sports or after whatever.

[00:12:14] And you have very limited time with your children.

[00:12:17] If your children, if you work full-time and your children are in school full-time, and I'm

[00:12:22] not saying that makes you a bad parent or that you don't know what's going on in your

[00:12:25] children's life, but young minds are very impressionable.

[00:12:28] And they're now going to school where they're being taught like your family's not safe, but

[00:12:35] we're safe.

[00:12:36] Your secrets are safe with us.

[00:12:39] And, and then a lot of kids are just trying to fit in.

[00:12:42] And if they see that, like the cool thing to do is to be, oh, non-binary or switch genders

[00:12:48] or not have any genders at all or whatever, or I'm not accepted the way that I was born.

[00:12:54] Maybe I'd be better off being the opposite gender.

[00:12:58] You're going to have your kids peer pressured into these things.

[00:13:01] And I know like personally of situations like this of friends, kids who at 12, 13 years old

[00:13:09] were like, I think, you know, I'm, I'm a girl, but I think I'm a boy.

[00:13:12] And it's like, well, why do you think this way?

[00:13:15] And kind of walk it through.

[00:13:16] And then all of a sudden on their own, they start to realize, wait a second.

[00:13:19] I'm not a boy.

[00:13:20] I am a girl.

[00:13:21] And I, I thought I was a boy because of X, Y, and Z.

[00:13:25] And I think they've even published studies that kids tend to resolve this.

[00:13:29] Like they do go through these different phases as they're growing up and then it tends to resolve

[00:13:33] on its own.

[00:13:34] And then if it doesn't, and they're full grown adults whose bodies are now fully formed and

[00:13:39] their brains are fully formed, then they can make these decisions for themselves.

[00:13:43] It shouldn't be anything that's hidden from parents.

[00:13:46] Someone also brought up on like gender conversion therapy.

[00:13:49] Like that was outlawed over a decade ago in California.

[00:13:52] So that point, anyway, I have not rambled on long enough.

[00:13:55] You go.

[00:13:57] Yeah.

[00:13:58] I will talk.

[00:13:59] I'll touch on a couple of things you brought up.

[00:14:01] Um, we've always talked about it here and, you know, we always say local elections matter.

[00:14:07] Um, and I feel like everyone, I think on Sonia Shaw's episode, when she came on, we've talked

[00:14:12] about this before where this does come down to the crux of whether or not Democrats like

[00:14:19] Gavin Newsom actually do believe in quote unquote democracy.

[00:14:22] Um, but they believe in democracy as long as they agree with it.

[00:14:27] And California has 58 counties.

[00:14:29] It is an enormous state.

[00:14:31] It is very diverse from San Diego all the way up to, you know, the last county up on the

[00:14:37] border of Oregon.

[00:14:38] And I apologize.

[00:14:39] I don't know what that is.

[00:14:40] Um, because honestly, I, it's such a big state that anything North of Sacramento to me, it's

[00:14:45] just like the absolute wilderness.

[00:14:47] I don't know what's up there.

[00:14:49] Um,

[00:14:51] Remember we had the, at the convention and I forget who it was, but like, he was very

[00:14:57] much wanting to conserve the wilderness.

[00:15:00] Yeah.

[00:15:00] That would, uh, he's a perfect example.

[00:15:02] He's like really up there, you know, like almost at the border of Oregon.

[00:15:05] And he's like, it's beautiful up there.

[00:15:07] We want to preserve the fishing and the wildlife.

[00:15:09] And we're like, and you're a Republican.

[00:15:11] He's like, yes.

[00:15:12] And it's like, okay, there you go.

[00:15:15] Um, but right.

[00:15:16] There's 58 counties.

[00:15:18] Everyone is completely different.

[00:15:20] LA is different than orange County, San Diego County in your County.

[00:15:23] Like there's different counties all over Riverside.

[00:15:27] I mean, I'm trying, there's so many counties.

[00:15:30] I'm, I named five and there's 58 of them.

[00:15:34] Um, and the fact that Sacramento thinks they can create a blanket rule for

[00:15:39] everybody and take away all local power defeats really the purpose of why we're

[00:15:45] set up the way we're supposed to be set up, which is if you're set up as a

[00:15:49] Republic where it's local governments and counties and city councils and school

[00:15:53] boards, those should be the people who have the most impact on your day-to-day

[00:15:56] lives.

[00:15:57] And I've always been a fan of localization and the, and the fact that power

[00:16:01] should be dispersed as close to the people as possible.

[00:16:07] And I think that's what the founding fathers wanted when they kind of created

[00:16:10] the system we have, it should be as local as possible politics, meaning

[00:16:16] everything that affects your daily life really comes down to who you vote for

[00:16:19] mayor, who you vote for city council, county supervisors, your school board.

[00:16:24] That's really because those people are closest to you and your everyday life.

[00:16:29] They live in your community.

[00:16:31] They know what's going on.

[00:16:33] Maybe they grew up in your community.

[00:16:35] They're, they're intimately familiar with what's going on.

[00:16:37] Um, and that really, I think is the best way for local representative

[00:16:42] government is it has to be local.

[00:16:44] And then when Sacramento, who is hundreds of miles away from Chino Valley goes,

[00:16:49] no, no, no, no, we don't, we don't agree with what you guys are doing.

[00:16:51] Even though it's a school board that, you know, you've duly elected.

[00:16:55] There's no issue about how they were elected or anything like that.

[00:16:58] Even though your voice was, we want these people on our school board and we

[00:17:02] support what they're going to do.

[00:17:05] No, we can't have that.

[00:17:06] Like the, you've gone too far.

[00:17:08] Like that's too much.

[00:17:09] So it's, it's incredibly ironic to see these pro democracy, every vote counts.

[00:17:15] And we want people to have representation, Democrats in Sacramento go, no, no, no,

[00:17:19] we're going to, we're just going to override everything because we think that's

[00:17:22] more important.

[00:17:23] Um, and I think, you know, it should just be left up to the localities.

[00:17:28] If the localities, you know, like your area is very conservative.

[00:17:32] If that is something people in that area want, they should be allowed to have it.

[00:17:37] They should be allowed to vote on it and support the people that they do have it.

[00:17:41] Um, and if you don't like, if you're in an area where you're like,

[00:17:44] if you disagree with that, you have two options.

[00:17:47] You can work to get those people out of office, or you can leave that area to an area that is

[00:17:53] more conducive to the way you believe.

[00:17:56] So, um, that's my point about sort of what you're talking about with localization and

[00:18:01] yeah, the, the post I had put up, there's a lot of people who are kind of, uh, if people

[00:18:07] aren't familiar with what I had posted, it was a real, I had posted on Instagram.

[00:18:11] And I said, okay, and there it is, you know, California has basically said the government

[00:18:18] has control, or I can't remember specifically how I phrased it.

[00:18:23] Government should have control or involvement in your kids' lives.

[00:18:27] Um, and I would say, this is like a slippery slope.

[00:18:30] Like this is the first step into like the government being like, oh, we're going to co-parent

[00:18:34] with you and be like, yeah, you know, we're going to help make decisions for your kids.

[00:18:40] And there were a lot of people who were like, I can't believe you think this is horrible.

[00:18:43] Why do you think that?

[00:18:44] Why do you think it's the government stepping in?

[00:18:47] Well, does, does the school have to tell the parents when the child gets in a fight

[00:18:54] and beats up someone, do they have to tell the parents that?

[00:18:58] Okay.

[00:18:58] That should be something the parents should know about.

[00:19:00] Do they tell the parents when the kids put like, you know, a cherry bomb in someone's

[00:19:05] locker and blow the locker up?

[00:19:08] Probably that's something that they should.

[00:19:09] So you start to go, okay, should the, should the parents know about this?

[00:19:13] Should the parents know about this?

[00:19:14] Should the parents know?

[00:19:14] And this is all behavioral stuff, right?

[00:19:17] This is all, if you're causing trouble, if you're aggressive, if you're beating up someone,

[00:19:21] are you acting up in class?

[00:19:22] Should the parents know about this?

[00:19:24] So they know how to go home and address it.

[00:19:27] Why all of a sudden is the line now drawn like, well, this new behavioral trend that is becoming

[00:19:35] more and more popular now, all of a sudden, no, no, no, no.

[00:19:38] The government says you, you can't know about that as a parent.

[00:19:40] You can't know what they're doing at school with that.

[00:19:43] That's our job to, to know what's going on with them.

[00:19:46] You don't get an insight into that.

[00:19:48] We can keep that away from the, from the parents.

[00:19:50] So it's, it's the first step where they kind of go, right.

[00:19:57] We can determine whether or not you should have involvement in your kids' lives based

[00:20:02] on this one factor.

[00:20:05] And where does it end?

[00:20:06] I guess, I guess that's the next question is like, where does it end?

[00:20:10] Where?

[00:20:11] And, and I think we talked about this before, but, and correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:20:16] Wasn't there something passed where California was going to be like a sanctuary state for

[00:20:22] transgender kids?

[00:20:23] Like they were basically going to come to California and be like wards of the state.

[00:20:27] Wasn't that last year or something that they passed that?

[00:20:30] I forget what bill that was exactly.

[00:20:33] Right.

[00:20:33] And it was like a trans sanctuary state.

[00:20:35] So if you're in a different state and you want to get, uh, you know, you want to come

[00:20:40] to California and transition or be transgender, like they will basically take you in and you'll

[00:20:46] be like a ward of the state.

[00:20:48] And, and that includes students, kids within California, no, that I think that included

[00:20:53] kids within California, but they were also, you know, come, we'll take care of you to other

[00:20:59] States.

[00:21:00] And so it was just like, kids could kind of run away.

[00:21:03] Like, Hey kids, you're 15.

[00:21:06] Your parents don't agree with your sexual orientation.

[00:21:09] We'll take care of you.

[00:21:11] Come live in our shelters.

[00:21:13] I don't know.

[00:21:14] I, I'm not sure.

[00:21:15] I forget if they even listed what it was, but I'm unclear about what their plan exactly

[00:21:20] was.

[00:21:23] Somebody.

[00:21:24] And I think that was a Scott Wiener bill.

[00:21:26] If I'm pretty sure.

[00:21:27] I think so.

[00:21:29] I think I saved this on Twitter and now I'm not going to take the time to try and pull

[00:21:33] it up.

[00:21:34] And I'm going to paraphrase and I'm very sorry to not give credit to whoever said this.

[00:21:38] I saw a tweet and she made a very valid point that in the state of California, because a

[00:21:45] big part of this bill is there's evil parents out there, basically right-wing extremists,

[00:21:51] you know, well, not even extremists.

[00:21:53] Just anyone who, you know, flies the American flag or says that they like a Trump policy is

[00:21:58] buys 50 rounds of ammo, buys 50, especially if you're a white guy, whatever, you know,

[00:22:03] like I buying 50 rounds of ammo, you know, you go to church on Sunday, you are now.

[00:22:08] Part of the evil corruption.

[00:22:10] You hate your children if they don't do exactly what, you know, you, they don't believe how

[00:22:14] you believe or whatever.

[00:22:16] And so you're obviously abusive.

[00:22:18] And so if your child comes out to you or comes out in the school and they don't tell you

[00:22:22] it's because, you know, you're obviously going to probably kill your kid or kick them out

[00:22:25] or something really horrific to your child is that's really what this bill was based

[00:22:31] on.

[00:22:31] Um, which is not reality because in the state of California, I'm, I'm pretty sure in across

[00:22:38] the United States, but I know in the state of California, if a teacher suspects that a

[00:22:43] child is being abused at home, they have to say something.

[00:22:46] Right.

[00:22:47] So if they already suspect that and then they speak up about it, then CPS, you know, is going

[00:22:56] to come in and do some investigation and stuff.

[00:22:59] And so therefore a child in that situation will most likely already be removed from the

[00:23:04] home.

[00:23:06] So coming out and there's not, there's, yes, there's again, like we talked about, there's

[00:23:13] always the rotten apple.

[00:23:14] There's there.

[00:23:15] Like I said, I believe most parents are doing the best they can.

[00:23:18] Most parents are not evil.

[00:23:21] Some ruin it for everybody in the sense of this, but we don't have the majority of parents,

[00:23:27] even if they're Christian, even if they're right wing, whatever that are like, okay,

[00:23:32] if my child comes out there, that's it, they're done.

[00:23:35] I'm kicking them out there.

[00:23:36] I'm disowning them.

[00:23:37] Like that's really not the majority at all.

[00:23:44] And I can say this confidently as someone who was raised in a church and knows pastors

[00:23:48] who, you know, would get up and preach that like the Bible says this about, um, you know,

[00:23:54] men and women are meant to be together, not men and men are not women and women.

[00:23:57] And they have had their children come out as gay or bisexual and they have fully embraced

[00:24:03] their child did not kick them out.

[00:24:05] And it's, you know, like whether or not they disagree with their child, they, they still

[00:24:10] love their child very much.

[00:24:11] And like I said, I know this personally, I know several families that I have grown up

[00:24:16] with that, you know, that have kids, my kids ages and they, they, their children are still

[00:24:20] their home and they love them and they're out.

[00:24:22] And we all know that they're out.

[00:24:25] Right.

[00:24:25] Yeah.

[00:24:26] That was stuff that people brought up on that post was, well, you know, what's your,

[00:24:32] what happens if these kids come out and they go home and they get abused?

[00:24:37] Well, to my understanding, like your point is if children are getting abused or they're

[00:24:42] suffering abuse, or they have parents who might harm them, we already have protection in place

[00:24:48] with CPS and laws that say, if you suspect there's abuse, you should probably notify CPS.

[00:24:55] It's not like that has gone away.

[00:24:57] So if you're afraid that they'll go home and get abused because they come out or you think

[00:25:03] these parents are abusive, there are protections already in place.

[00:25:07] Does that mean that you have to create a blanket rule for all parents who are not abusive and

[00:25:16] who love their children?

[00:25:17] And like you said, are doing the best that they can to not know what's going on with their

[00:25:21] kid.

[00:25:21] Um, does it create more strife for the child at home?

[00:25:28] If their school knows and a teacher knows, which again is kind of weird.

[00:25:34] Why would a teacher know like that a kid is transitioning or what their sexual orientation

[00:25:38] is, but the parents don't know that at home.

[00:25:42] Doesn't that create strife as to, well, maybe they feel stress at home and they don't feel

[00:25:46] like they can talk.

[00:25:47] It becomes this whole, like, well, why does the school get to know, but not the parent

[00:25:53] who could probably step in and help?

[00:25:55] And why does the child, it just creates a lot of these questions that we've talked about

[00:26:02] this so many times here in California where they pass a lot of these laws that to them,

[00:26:08] to the politicians are what I label as like feel good laws.

[00:26:11] Like it feels good and it looks good.

[00:26:13] And it, we look like we're doing something great and we're doing something noble, but

[00:26:17] it's almost like California passes these laws and then doesn't realize the ramifications of

[00:26:22] what happens after you pass these laws or down the line, what happens when you pass these laws?

[00:26:28] Um, and you know, we're a couple of days into this law being implemented.

[00:26:34] So who knows maybe a year from now, we'll see what the ramifications actually are, but I just

[00:26:40] can't imagine in any scenario and I'm not a parent, but I can't imagine in a scenario where

[00:26:45] you think there's something that a teacher should know that you should not know about your own

[00:26:50] kid.

[00:26:51] Right.

[00:26:52] Call me crazy.

[00:26:53] And now you pass this law and you're telling kids, Hey, your parents are probably going to hurt

[00:26:59] you.

[00:27:00] If you know, that's basically what's happening is they're, they're putting that on you.

[00:27:05] Now the child is like, well, we've got this law because there's parents out there who will do this.

[00:27:11] And we want to make sure that your parents don't do this to you, but your secret safe with us.

[00:27:16] You can talk to us, come to us and you know, we won't tell your parents it's okay.

[00:27:22] And so they're already like putting that in the kid's mind.

[00:27:26] Like, Oh, I didn't think about that before.

[00:27:29] My parents might disagree with this.

[00:27:32] My parents might want to hurt me over this.

[00:27:33] I like, and then, okay.

[00:27:38] The bill text, hold on.

[00:27:39] Let me, let me pull it up because it says something in here about like, they can't reveal

[00:27:48] any, anything that has to do with their, their gender expression, their, anything relating

[00:27:53] to their sexual orientation.

[00:27:57] I don't want to misquote this bill, but it does say that somewhere in there.

[00:28:01] And, uh, so now let's say it's not your kid.

[00:28:07] It's someone else's kid.

[00:28:08] So now, okay.

[00:28:10] I have three daughters, three, then they're almost 13, 15 and 16.

[00:28:14] So I have teenagers here.

[00:28:16] Let's say one of my daughters, you know, any of that middle school through high school,

[00:28:20] whatever.

[00:28:21] Um, and boys, high school, let's do it with high school.

[00:28:26] Boys are getting bigger.

[00:28:27] And then one decides that he now identifies as a female and he wants to use the girls'

[00:28:35] restrooms.

[00:28:36] He wants to play on the girls' sports.

[00:28:37] The school is not allowed to share this information.

[00:28:40] And so now I've got 15 and 16 year old girls in high school going to their restroom, their

[00:28:45] gym, and there's a, there's a biological male in there.

[00:28:50] And now sure they could come to me and say something, but then what?

[00:28:55] But if they're uncomfortable with this and I go to the school and the school's like,

[00:28:58] Oh, well, we can't do anything about it.

[00:29:00] We, you know, like, so now this affects my kids who maybe aren't identifying as other

[00:29:07] genders.

[00:29:08] And, and I'm not saying that all transgender people is, well, like transgender women, like

[00:29:15] I'm not saying they're all violent and they're all sexual predators or anything like that.

[00:29:18] But even if they're not, like, I know for me, I didn't even want to change.

[00:29:25] Like I grew up with three sisters and I didn't even want to change in front of them.

[00:29:28] Okay.

[00:29:29] Like, okay, whatever that's on me, but let alone going into the high school gym and changing

[00:29:34] in front of other girls.

[00:29:35] And now a boy, like, why are we wanting to put our kids in this situation?

[00:29:42] And the school's like, well, this is, you know, this is how they choose to express themselves.

[00:29:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:48] And that's a, that's a great point as to a ramification that I could absolutely see happening

[00:29:54] within the next year is somebody's kid comes home and says, you know, I'm uncomfortable

[00:30:00] because somebody, you know, Bobby, who was a big football player now wants to transition

[00:30:05] into a girl and now he's getting changed in our locker room and it's uncomfortable because

[00:30:09] he stares at us.

[00:30:10] And then the parent goes, wait, what is that?

[00:30:12] What?

[00:30:12] And then they go to the school board and go, why didn't, why are we not being told that

[00:30:16] this is happening?

[00:30:17] Oh, well, we can't under this new law.

[00:30:20] Like it's, it's up to us, you know, like we, we can't, our hands are tied.

[00:30:24] We can't tell anybody.

[00:30:26] Um, on that point, I actually found an interesting video that I wanted to share about how parent

[00:30:32] or like some teachers are like, we don't want to be the gender police.

[00:30:36] Um, and I bet there's a lot of parents who are teachers who don't want to be gender

[00:30:42] police.

[00:30:42] Like this is not in their job description.

[00:30:44] I would imagine the vast majority of teachers here in California who are hardworking, get

[00:30:49] up and go to work every day.

[00:30:51] They don't want to be a part of this to them.

[00:30:52] They're probably like, this is not what I got into teaching for.

[00:30:55] I did not get into teaching to be keeping secrets from parents and becoming the gender

[00:31:01] police on who's transitioning, who's not transitioning.

[00:31:03] Like that's not what I wanted to get into this for.

[00:31:06] And it's like, we keep asking our teachers to take on like more and more of, uh, like

[00:31:12] these responsibilities.

[00:31:13] That's not what they're supposed to be doing.

[00:31:15] It's kind of like the same argument with like police officers.

[00:31:17] We keep asking police officers to become like Superman.

[00:31:21] Like they do everything.

[00:31:22] They put out fires.

[00:31:22] They can medically resuscitate you.

[00:31:25] Like it's all these things.

[00:31:26] At a certain point, a lot of these people just go, I don't want to even do this anymore.

[00:31:29] So I'm out.

[00:31:31] Um, but this was interesting testimony back when the bill was being heard in front of committee

[00:31:35] and I found it today.

[00:31:36] So I will share it.

[00:31:38] Um, and we can comment on it.

[00:31:43] Good afternoon.

[00:31:45] My name is Arian Adam Chikova and I live in San Francisco.

[00:31:49] I'm a progressive Democrat and I have been a CTA high school teacher for 22 years.

[00:31:55] I am a lifelong LGB activist.

[00:31:58] I am a mother of a formerly trans identified son.

[00:32:03] 10 years ago, no students identified as transgender.

[00:32:07] Now every class has at least a few students who identify as something other than their own sex.

[00:32:14] My son's trans identity was a result of anxiety, loneliness, and too much time on the internet.

[00:32:21] Like so many other youth.

[00:32:23] Sadly, these children who reject their sex believe that they were born.

[00:32:28] They are not wrong.

[00:32:29] They are not wrong and dissociate with their natural bodies, which results in a downward spiral of their already fragile mental state.

[00:32:36] We as teachers are told, trained, mandated to accept the child's pronouncement at face value and keep this secret from parents.

[00:32:48] We game the students records to automatically change names and pronouns depending upon the recipient and lie to parents.

[00:32:57] Senators said teachers do not want to be the gender police.

[00:33:01] That is true.

[00:33:03] Teachers also do not want to be liars or co-conspirators in the social transition of students.

[00:33:09] Parents should be trusted to make decisions for their own kids.

[00:33:13] We should not be making an assumption of guilt about parents when it comes to their own children.

[00:33:19] Teachers should nurture, not obstruct the parent-child bond.

[00:33:23] Teachers are evaluated on how well we value and respect students' families and their role.

[00:33:31] AB 1955 obliterates that mutual respect.

[00:33:35] The Senate was filled with coming out stories.

[00:33:39] And the bill's author erroneously equates coming out as gay to the adoption of a transgender identity.

[00:33:47] Being gay carries no chance of irreversible medicalization to fit a sense of self.

[00:33:53] Nor does it require active deception by schools.

[00:33:58] In children, trans ideation is almost always accompanied by other serious mental health issues.

[00:34:06] Secrecy from parents is not the answer.

[00:34:09] This bill will only hurt children.

[00:34:12] Vote no and thank you.

[00:34:19] So, yeah, I found that today before we hopped on.

[00:34:22] And I thought it was interesting.

[00:34:24] If you are listening to the audio, you can see this woman who clearly, I mean, if you saw her out on the street, she would look like what you would imagine a progressive Democrat looks like.

[00:34:38] You know, the blue hair and the mohawk style.

[00:34:42] And she is saying very adamantly, like, we don't want to be the gender police.

[00:34:47] We don't want to be co-conspirators.

[00:34:49] We don't want to be liars.

[00:34:50] Like, this is not our job.

[00:34:51] And, like, they're conflating.

[00:34:53] They're trying to say, like, coming out as gay is the same as transitioning.

[00:34:57] And, you know, it's creating this sort of murky issue for teachers who now have to deal with this and be these, like she said, co-conspirators, which is a good way to put it.

[00:35:11] They are involuntary co-conspirators who now have to keep secrets on behalf of these children from parents.

[00:35:21] And even she, as a progressive Democrat, a self-evide progressive Democrat, said she had a child who was, I believe she said, he was transitioning.

[00:35:31] And then it was a lot to do with, like, mental health issues.

[00:35:35] And then they kind of cleaned up.

[00:35:36] Like, she worked on the mental health with him.

[00:35:39] And then he's no longer transitioning.

[00:35:41] So to her, it's like, okay, these are two separate things.

[00:35:45] You're trying to conflate, like, coming out as gay and transitioning for a child as the same thing.

[00:35:53] But that was testimony in front of the Assembly regarding this bill.

[00:35:59] I don't know who that was who kept telling her to, like, stop talking.

[00:36:02] But you could clearly see he didn't want to hear any more of what her testimony was.

[00:36:07] Kind of rude, to be honest.

[00:36:10] But, yeah, what were your thoughts watching that?

[00:36:13] Yeah, I thought it was interesting because, like I mentioned, it's basically you're accused of being a right-wing religious faggot, etc.

[00:36:24] If you, you know, that's kind of why this bill was created.

[00:36:27] And yet she herself says, I'm a progressive Democrat and I'm against this bill.

[00:36:33] And so it's not, it's not just, it's sane people who understand that children are children and their bodies and brains are developing.

[00:36:44] And, you know, they're all going to develop at different paces.

[00:36:49] And children shouldn't, like, we shouldn't just readily accept this and say yes and then push it on them when the very next day, week, year, they could be like, wait a second, that's not what I wanted.

[00:37:00] And then I know this bill isn't, like, about puberty blockers and hormones and stuff.

[00:37:05] But when you start encouraging that and then going down that route, you're doing irreversible damage to children.

[00:37:12] Mm-hmm.

[00:37:13] And, and you mentioned slippery slope.

[00:37:16] And the slippery slope, absolutely.

[00:37:19] I, I, I don't consider myself a right-wing extremist, but I always think in extremes than I have my whole life because I've said, like, I remember having these conversations 15, 20 years ago saying, well, you know, I get that this is an extreme.

[00:37:37] But once we pass this, we're going to, the next thing is going to be this and this.

[00:37:40] And these are things that it's like, oh, you're going to say, no, we would never pass that.

[00:37:45] We would never pass that.

[00:37:46] We absolutely are passing that.

[00:37:47] Things that I'm not saying that I, oh, I'm so smart and had the forethought, but absolutely.

[00:37:52] I saw all these things coming 15, 20 years ago because I was like, nope, it starts here, but this is where we're going to be in 15, 20 years.

[00:37:58] And it's like, yeah, this is where we are now.

[00:38:00] And here we are, you know, governing a stamp of approval on it.

[00:38:03] This is probably a really silly thought, but if we're going to say, you know, we need to do this to protect children because there's bad parents out there.

[00:38:13] Well, okay, now let's look at grades.

[00:38:16] When the grades start slipping, are we going to hide grades from parents?

[00:38:19] Because, you know, there's parents out there who won't allow, you know, they get mad at their children.

[00:38:24] They punish them, whatever, if they come home with less than an A.

[00:38:27] So are we now going to say, oh, we're going to do away with grades or we're going to hide grades.

[00:38:31] Parents can't see grades anymore because, you know, it should be up to a child when they're comfortable sharing this with their parents.

[00:38:37] And maybe they're never comfortable sharing it.

[00:38:39] Right.

[00:38:41] Yeah.

[00:38:41] I mean, it could, I could clearly see that and I could clearly see, and, you know, people who listen to the show know we're not conspiracy theorists that we put out a lot.

[00:38:52] If we're thinking about this, it's because we've thought about it critically.

[00:38:55] We kind of put our thought behind it.

[00:38:57] I could definitely see where it starts to creep into other aspects of the student's life where they're like, oh, no, okay.

[00:39:04] You can't see grades unless the pupil consents to it because, you know, that creates an unnecessary stressor on the child and the child's development.

[00:39:12] And it's like, again, why is Sacramento injecting themselves into the life development of what children turn out to be?

[00:39:21] That is not really your role.

[00:39:23] Your role is to teach math and history and science and like these basic skills to go to high school and then maybe go to college.

[00:39:34] Like that was never your role and school is just public schools, I should clarify, just in California become these overbearing nanny state kind of operations where they believe, well, you send your kid to our facility.

[00:39:50] So therefore we kind of have freeway with them.

[00:39:52] And it's like, no, that's not how it works.

[00:39:55] So speaking of ramifications.

[00:39:57] Go ahead.

[00:39:58] Okay.

[00:39:59] So the story is going to sound so off topic, but I'm going to make it make sense.

[00:40:03] Okay.

[00:40:03] Okay.

[00:40:04] So I have my 12 year old daughter.

[00:40:06] She's almost 13 in February, 2020, when she was just eight years old, she stopped talking completely to anyone, anywhere in any situation.

[00:40:17] So I have always homeschooled all my kids.

[00:40:20] And at the time I had her in a homeschool program where she went to one day a week, like enrichment classes.

[00:40:28] And she'd been going for a couple of years, something like that.

[00:40:31] So she stops talking.

[00:40:33] And there had been historically, since she had started talking, you know, at a year or whatever, where she would go mute for like, it was just kind of odd.

[00:40:45] She would just randomly go mute.

[00:40:46] And, and just stare at us, not say anything.

[00:40:50] And it would be like a few hours.

[00:40:51] And then, and then it would be like, Oh, like maybe the whole day.

[00:40:56] And then she put them the next day, she would wake up talking.

[00:40:58] We thought she was like being stubborn.

[00:41:00] Okay.

[00:41:00] Cause this wasn't like happening all the time.

[00:41:03] It was just a thing.

[00:41:05] Um, and then we couldn't bribe her out of it.

[00:41:08] Like, you know, it'd be like, Oh, live, you can, you can have extra time on your iPad.

[00:41:13] We'll give you candy, whatever.

[00:41:15] And she wouldn't speak.

[00:41:16] And then we're like, wow, she's like really stubborn.

[00:41:18] Well, then I think it was like Valentine's day week in 2020.

[00:41:22] She also went like two or three days without talking.

[00:41:24] And right away I was like, well, that's not normal.

[00:41:26] And of course me, and I'm like all over the internet going, what is this?

[00:41:29] And all I could come up with was something called, um, selective mutism, which then left untreated becomes progressive mutism.

[00:41:38] Mutism.

[00:41:38] So selective mutism is when a child only selectively speaks such as they don't, they won't talk at school, but they'll talk at home.

[00:41:46] And so parents don't see that this is happening because their child is totally normal at home, but not talking at school.

[00:41:54] And again, if left untreated, it becomes progressive mutism where they stop talking altogether.

[00:41:58] So she didn't say a single word to anybody for six months.

[00:42:04] And, um, so she was in that program that I mentioned.

[00:42:07] And so when I start going down like the rabbit hole of that, and then, I mean, I won't even get into the fiasco.

[00:42:13] We finally found a therapist who could actually like has treated that.

[00:42:17] Cause it's such a rare thing that most haven't even heard of it.

[00:42:20] And then there's all sorts of information on selective mutism.

[00:42:25] But once you hit progressive mutism, it's like, you're on your own.

[00:42:28] Like nobody knows what to do.

[00:42:29] You're like, good luck with you.

[00:42:31] And so I found a therapist who had had one situation, like he was in orange County.

[00:42:36] And, um, so we started her on therapy.

[00:42:39] She had like her one or two weeks and then the world shut down.

[00:42:43] And, um, so that was a whole separate thing.

[00:42:46] But anyway, right away, I contacted the little school program that she was in.

[00:42:49] She had three different teachers for her different classes.

[00:42:52] And, um, I, I asked them, I'm like, have you guys seen this?

[00:42:56] Is she speaking at school?

[00:42:57] And then they, they talked like what the administrator or whatever, she talked to the other three teachers.

[00:43:02] And she sent me an email back, letting me know that no, she stops talking.

[00:43:05] She doesn't talk at school at all.

[00:43:07] And when she's called them for questions, even the other students say, oh, she doesn't talk.

[00:43:10] She doesn't talk.

[00:43:11] I am not blaming them whatsoever for any of this.

[00:43:15] I wish that I had been told this because she started the program talking.

[00:43:19] I wish that as soon as it was like, not one day, but after a few weeks, you know, a few months, they were like, hey, just to let you know, Olivia is not speaking in class anymore.

[00:43:30] I don't know if this is happening at home too, but we wanted to let you know.

[00:43:35] She quit talking.

[00:43:36] I would have loved that intervention.

[00:43:38] Absolutely would have loved to know because it went by the time I found out it turned out it had been going on for quite a while.

[00:43:44] And I only found out because they asked and they weren't, it's not like they were told they could.

[00:43:50] And I'm just saying as a parent, I didn't know that that was going on at school.

[00:43:56] And it wasn't until she completely stopped talking at home that I started asking questions.

[00:44:00] And I'm a homeschool mom.

[00:44:01] I'm with my kids all the time.

[00:44:02] And I even say I, because I've been a stay-at-home mom and a homeschool mom since the beginning.

[00:44:07] I don't have like all moms have mom guilt.

[00:44:10] I don't have any mom guilt over.

[00:44:11] I missed something.

[00:44:12] I didn't miss anything.

[00:44:14] I was there for their first steps and their first words.

[00:44:16] And, you know, like I'm with my kids all the time.

[00:44:19] I literally stay home with them.

[00:44:20] And I mentioned to you the other day, I still have, my teenagers are not embarrassed to be seen with us.

[00:44:24] They love to go to lunch with us.

[00:44:25] They love to hang out with us.

[00:44:27] They love to hang out with my parents.

[00:44:28] Like I'm a very hands-on parent and I'm not, this isn't like, yay me.

[00:44:31] I'm saying we're like a close family.

[00:44:33] So this whole, like, if you don't know what's going on at home and parents or teachers shouldn't have to say anything,

[00:44:39] I would have loved to have been told.

[00:44:42] Because then it would have been something that I would have started questioning earlier.

[00:44:45] You know, instead we had this full-on six months of silence and it was bizarre.

[00:44:50] Anyway, that is my final note on that.

[00:44:53] Yeah, well, final note is parents need to be involved in case stuff happens.

[00:44:59] They need to be involved because the parents have to tackle it.

[00:45:03] But speaking of ramifications in terms of what could happen, I'm still getting used to this new setup.

[00:45:12] What could happen, Elon Musk, not one to not do the dramatics.

[00:45:21] He has announced that SpaceX and X are both leaving California.

[00:45:28] This was a report from KTLA 5.

[00:45:31] So this was a news report on it.

[00:45:33] Elon Musk packing up, moving out.

[00:45:35] Adios.

[00:45:35] Well, none of this should be a big surprise to anybody who's either been following the news or listening to us because we've been about this for a while now.

[00:45:43] But Elon Musk just minutes ago tweeting out that he is going to move both SpaceX and Twitter, a.k.a. X, to Texas from California.

[00:45:53] SpaceX is currently headquartered right here in Hawthorne.

[00:45:57] You're looking at it right there.

[00:45:58] Now, they've already got a lot of operations in Texas, but the headquarters is here.

[00:46:02] Twitter's headquarters is up in San Francisco.

[00:46:06] Now, Musk says that he is making this move because of Governor Gavin Newsom signing a new law that bars school districts from requiring that parent notified of a child's gender identification change.

[00:46:21] So the law here in California is now a school can't rat out a kid if he or she has decided to identify differently on the gender front.

[00:46:31] Musk has a transgender daughter himself from whom he is reportedly estranged.

[00:46:36] What these transgender issues have to do with either the commercial exploitation of space or social media?

[00:46:42] Well, it's unclear.

[00:46:43] What is clear is that Musk has been aiming towards Texas for quite some time now.

[00:46:49] Just last week, we were talking here about how at the San Francisco headquarters of Twitter, they are already looking for tenants to sublease a big portion of the building.

[00:46:58] That's kind of a giveaway that they've had a move out of the building in the States for quite some time.

[00:47:03] And like I say, there have been a lot of reports that SpaceX wouldn't be long in here in California because they've got so many operations over in Texas.

[00:47:11] SpaceX will now be based in Boca Chica, Texas, whereas Twitter will be in Austin, Texas.

[00:47:18] Musk, for his part, has been making his conservative leaning as much more in recent days.

[00:47:24] Just right after the shooting of President Trump over the weekend, Musk came right out and endorsed the former president.

[00:47:33] All right.

[00:47:34] So Musk is out.

[00:47:36] He said, this is the final straw.

[00:47:38] I am not going to allow our businesses to do anything.

[00:47:41] I can actually feel bad for people who find out secondhand who like work at that headquarters in L.A.

[00:47:47] And they're like, they find out like from a news report that they're moving the headquarters to Austin or and you're like, damn, like I had this good job at SpaceX.

[00:47:58] Like now what am I going to do?

[00:48:01] So, you know, Elon Musk has definitely not been shy to share his feelings about what's going on in California.

[00:48:08] Moving SpaceX out of L.A., the headquarters is a big blow in terms of at least corporations and jobs and tax revenue going to Texas.

[00:48:19] So and now I didn't even I heard it was just SpaceX and this is the first time I'm hearing that's also X is leaving San Francisco.

[00:48:28] So the fact that they're both leaving and X to, you know, Twitter slash X to leave San Francisco, where it's been for a long time, probably just another blow to San Francisco.

[00:48:41] But yeah, it is interesting how this might have a ramification on how people see California, whether they want to raise kids here or not.

[00:48:50] And maybe they see the writing on the wall like we've been talking about, like you've seen the writing on the wall.

[00:48:55] And to a lot of people, this is scary because they're like, well, where does this go from here?

[00:49:00] Like, where else are we going to where else is Sacramento going to start infringing on our rights to know about our kids?

[00:49:06] And where is this going to go?

[00:49:08] So do people start to flee because of this?

[00:49:11] I don't think this was it's weird for someone who is as politically savvy as Gavin Newsom is for him to sign this.

[00:49:19] Especially when we all know he has presidential ambitions.

[00:49:21] It is it is weird that he would sign this knowing that there's likely going to be a backlash.

[00:49:31] Well, do you want to segue into our topic?

[00:49:34] Because I feel like it kind of falls within it.

[00:49:38] Oh, yeah.

[00:49:39] Because, yeah.

[00:49:42] They're saying, which Elon Musk did come out and say because of AB1955, but he also said and other policies that Newsom has been pushing.

[00:49:54] And he didn't specifically say which ones.

[00:49:56] And so I guess it's unfair of me to speculate.

[00:49:58] However, this bill that Newsom vetoed, I feel like probably had an influence on Musk moving his the two companies out of California as well.

[00:50:12] Right.

[00:50:13] Right.

[00:50:14] There is another really quick before we hop onto the next topic to finish.

[00:50:19] Wrap this all up.

[00:50:20] This is not the end of AB1955.

[00:50:24] Chino Valley Unified School District and a handful of parents have filed lawsuit against Gavin Newsom over the bill.

[00:50:31] School quote.

[00:50:32] School officials do not have the right to keep secrets from parents, but parents do have a constitutional right to know what their minor children are doing at school.

[00:50:38] So, said Emily Ray, a lawyer representing the district.

[00:50:42] Some conservative groups, including the California Family Council, said the law violates parents' privacy.

[00:50:48] Quote, this bill undermines their fundamental role and places boys and girls in potential jeopardy.

[00:50:54] Moms and dads have both a constitutional and divine mandate to guide and protect their kids.

[00:50:58] And AB1955 egregiously violates this sacred trust.

[00:51:03] At least six states have requirements that schools notify parents or minors disclose that they are transgender or asked to be referred to with a different pronoun.

[00:51:12] According to the Associated Press reporting, Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee.

[00:51:18] Virginia asks school boards to adopt similar policies, but does not have a law.

[00:51:23] Arizona and Idaho also require schools to provide certain information to parents, but do not specify gender expression or sexual orientation.

[00:51:30] In New Jersey, Attorney General Matt Platkin last year sued four school districts, claiming their policies violate an anti-discrimination law that allows gender expression information to be shared with a student's family only with their permission or if there's a risk of the student's health and safety.

[00:51:48] So, as to the saying that has been said ad nauseum, so as California goes, so does the nation.

[00:51:55] And it appears, you know, Gavin Newsom's trying to be on the cutting edge of this.

[00:51:59] And I didn't actually know that this was a national thing.

[00:52:03] I didn't realize that this was spreading across the nation.

[00:52:07] Um, but it does put into perspective the severity of like when California passes a law about it and it's the first in the nation to do it.

[00:52:14] That's a big deal.

[00:52:16] Um, but in a smooth ways to transition since, uh, Gavin Newsom obviously does not approve of transparency with your children in relation to public schools.

[00:52:27] Uh, he also doesn't approve of transparency when it comes to spending, uh, on homelessness.

[00:52:34] Uh, this is from just the news.com.

[00:52:37] It said Newsom vetoed an unopposed bill that would have required the state to evaluate the money it gives to cities and counties for homelessness program, saying it would create unnecessary ongoing workload.

[00:52:48] And the other actions already to increase oversight rendered the bill redundant.

[00:52:53] Earlier this year, a state audit found the state was not adequately tracking the outcomes for much of its recent $24 billion in homelessness spending.

[00:53:01] I saw someone make a comment about this, that they are now going to use unnecessary ongoing workload as an excuse for not doing anything.

[00:53:09] Um, or why they don't want to tell people like, I'm not going to tell you because it's an unnecessary ongoing workload.

[00:53:15] If I have to tell you everything that I'm doing.

[00:53:18] Um, so this bill is AB 2570.

[00:53:23] It was written by our friend, Joe Patterson of Rockland, uh, state assemblyman, Joe Patterson.

[00:53:28] He said, this was a bipartisan bill with no opposition.

[00:53:31] Clearly the legislature agreed on the need to rein in Newsom's wasteful spending on ineffective homelessness programs.

[00:53:37] I'm glad we were able to get some safeguards written into the budget, but that the state can't keep cutting corners on accountability when dishing out billions of taxpayer dollars and seeing the problem get worse.

[00:53:48] Um, he goes on to say, I believe that by requiring a status update and review of the homeless housing assistance and prevention program in the department of housing and community development, annual report to the governor.

[00:54:00] In both houses of the legislature, we will, we will be able to shed light on the flaws and our plan of action and addressing the overwhelming homelessness issue in our state.

[00:54:11] Um, basically it goes on to say it's redundant.

[00:54:15] There isn't any reason to have this.

[00:54:17] Um, in his letter, he says the bill is redundant to these efforts and creates an unnecessary ongoing workload for the department without providing additional accountability or transparency to taxpayers.

[00:54:28] So, uh, and finally, uh, California lawmakers haven't used their power to override a governor's veto, a two thirds vote since 1980.

[00:54:38] So who knows?

[00:54:39] Maybe they, it is a bipartisan bill with no opposition.

[00:54:42] So maybe they can get two thirds to actually go ahead and get this over in.

[00:54:50] Um, but yeah, we've done a whole episode on this in terms of the $24 billion that was lost.

[00:54:56] And it's just, uh, the, it's just astounding.

[00:55:01] If you're a Californian who pays taxes and the amount of money we spend on homelessness, and then you see that we're also $73 billion, uh, budget deficit.

[00:55:10] Um, and then he goes, well, we don't need to be accountable to the money that we're spending.

[00:55:16] Like, that's ridiculous.

[00:55:17] That's an ongoing, uh, workload.

[00:55:19] What is it?

[00:55:20] It's a process and unnecessary ongoing workload.

[00:55:23] Like why, why would you ask us to report?

[00:55:26] And we watched that video of that girl getting grilled in Sacramento for not knowing quite literally anything.

[00:55:33] Like she showed up to Sacramento and was just like, we don't have the data.

[00:55:37] We have no idea.

[00:55:38] And he's like 2021, 2022.

[00:55:40] Like you guys don't have any data on like any of that.

[00:55:43] Nope.

[00:55:44] No, no, no.

[00:55:45] We just, we don't know.

[00:55:46] We don't know where the money's going.

[00:55:47] We don't know if any of these programs are, uh, doing what they're supposed to do.

[00:55:54] We're just like, we're taking the money and it's going somewhere.

[00:55:56] So, um, a interesting move by Gavin Newsom, uh, obviously it doesn't help for someone who

[00:56:05] is like making the argument that we needed prop one because we needed more accountability

[00:56:12] in Sacramento and needed more control over it.

[00:56:16] And then the legislature goes, okay, we'll send us a report of what you're spending on.

[00:56:21] And then he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:56:24] Hold on.

[00:56:26] You want me to tell you where the money's going?

[00:56:29] And that sounds like a lot of work.

[00:56:31] I don't think we should do that.

[00:56:32] I'm going to veto this bill.

[00:56:34] It does kind of go against, he's having contradicting statements of, well, we need more transparency

[00:56:39] and accountability, which I'm going to get tough on with prop one.

[00:56:43] And then he goes, nah, we don't need more, nor more transparency and accountability.

[00:56:47] So what are your thoughts?

[00:56:48] You like finding things, you know, nobody needs to know anything is his MO apparently.

[00:56:54] Okay.

[00:56:54] We're in a relationship with the government, whether we want to be or not like the people,

[00:56:58] the government, right.

[00:56:59] There's like a relationship there.

[00:57:01] Um, can you imagine a business and their accountants?

[00:57:06] Like, oh, I don't know where the money went.

[00:57:07] Why are you asking me?

[00:57:10] What do you, what do you mean?

[00:57:11] You want to know about the finances in 2020 and 2020?

[00:57:15] Like, why would I know that?

[00:57:16] Okay.

[00:57:17] Now you're married.

[00:57:18] I'm married.

[00:57:19] You guys probably have a savings account and checking account.

[00:57:22] Can you imagine if you had money?

[00:57:25] Like, I know you guys would like to buy, buy a home.

[00:57:27] Can you imagine if you have like your savings account and you guys are saving towards a home

[00:57:31] and then one day you happen to check the savings account and all the money is gone and you ask

[00:57:36] your wife about it and she's like, I don't know what I spent it on.

[00:57:41] I don't know what I did.

[00:57:42] I don't know.

[00:57:43] To, to ask me to provide you with what I did, it would be an unnecessary ongoing workload.

[00:57:48] Like, I know you contributed to that with your paycheck and I contributed that with my

[00:57:52] paycheck, but why, why do you need to know what I did with it?

[00:57:55] Yeah.

[00:57:56] I don't know.

[00:57:57] No, like that's redundant.

[00:58:00] Don't ask me to.

[00:58:01] That actually happened to, you know, to share a personal story that actually happened to,

[00:58:06] to me and my wife really early on in our marriage.

[00:58:11] We both like one day had a realization that like we were like, well, who's like watching

[00:58:18] what's going on with our money?

[00:58:20] And we kind of looked at each other.

[00:58:21] I was like, well, I thought you were watching what's going on with it.

[00:58:23] No, no, no.

[00:58:23] I thought you were watching what's going on with our money.

[00:58:25] And like, it just occurred, like neither of us knew what was going on with our money.

[00:58:28] And we just assumed like the other person was, um, which obviously if no one's paying attention

[00:58:35] to the money, that could be kind of scary as to like what happens.

[00:58:39] Uh, since then we've, we've hopped on YNAB.

[00:58:42] They're not a sponsor of the show, but YNAB is a great program.

[00:58:45] Um, we've been YNAB crazy ever since.

[00:58:48] And we track every single dollar.

[00:58:50] And let me tell you, great marriage advice for anybody newlyweds out there, get the finances

[00:58:56] stuff, like figured out and like, you know, whether you want to have one person, just do

[00:59:01] it.

[00:59:01] Like I read that it's better to just have one person, just do it, take care of it.

[00:59:05] Cause like that way it doesn't create friction, but just get that taken care of.

[00:59:09] Like they always say the number one reason people get divorced is because of money.

[00:59:13] And when everyone's on the same page regarding money, that always makes it a lot better.

[00:59:18] Um, little life lesson here on the California underground podcast.

[00:59:22] Anyway, so, uh, we're not giving marriage advice.

[00:59:28] We're not giving marriage advice.

[00:59:31] Um, well, you know, I, I had about two or three people ask me on Instagram marriage advice

[00:59:38] and I just, there's so many people asking me about all these people asking me about it.

[00:59:43] So I figured I'm going to share it with you.

[00:59:46] Like you have a big following.

[00:59:48] You must, you must know marriage.

[00:59:50] So, you know, they're just, they're just, they won't even leave you alone.

[00:59:54] I, they just won't stop pestering me.

[00:59:56] I, at first it was one message.

[00:59:58] Then it was two messages.

[01:00:00] And then I got three and I said, they won't stop.

[01:00:01] You mentioned you were married and they were like, Oh, you're an influencer.

[01:00:04] You're an expert on marriage.

[01:00:06] Yeah.

[01:00:06] Let me, you know, let me ask you and have you share, by the way, do you have any links

[01:00:11] I could use to buy stuff from you?

[01:00:13] People who watch this might be confused.

[01:00:15] We're just making fun of influencers.

[01:00:17] We're just making fun of influencers.

[01:00:20] So many messages asking me about my skincare, my teapot, my dog.

[01:00:25] My shirt that I made.

[01:00:27] And not look magically.

[01:00:30] We've, we've.

[01:00:31] So many people said that I should run for office.

[01:00:34] Oh my God.

[01:00:35] People love my shirt.

[01:00:36] Like three or four people said they love my shirt.

[01:00:38] So now it's available for sale guys.

[01:00:40] Go check out our link.

[01:00:42] Please quit messaging me about my makeup and clothes.

[01:00:46] My God.

[01:00:47] Stop.

[01:00:48] Where I shot this personal.

[01:00:49] Like.

[01:00:50] Really?

[01:00:50] They just won't leave me alone.

[01:00:52] Anyway, we've gotten a way big tangent about what we're talking about.

[01:00:58] Everyone just canceled us.

[01:01:02] Everyone's just like, I don't, I don't know what the heck you guys are talking about.

[01:01:06] We're now we're getting actual hate messages.

[01:01:06] Like we're, we probably like if.

[01:01:09] If next week we're like, we got so many hate messages.

[01:01:11] That's probably true.

[01:01:12] We probably didn't get so many.

[01:01:14] We do say negatively.

[01:01:14] We're like, we got so many hate messages.

[01:01:16] People will be like, are you saying you got three or four hate messages?

[01:01:19] Or did you really get a lot of hate messages?

[01:01:22] Um, so anyway, uh, regarding transparency and we need to know what the heck's going on with

[01:01:30] homelessness in California and accountability.

[01:01:33] Uh, I found this article from Cal matters and it does involve, uh, my hometown of San

[01:01:39] Diego and our little tent city that's out on a parking lot roasting in the sun.

[01:01:44] Um, so this has really nothing.

[01:01:47] Bring, just bring some marshmallows and some chocolate.

[01:01:51] Yeah.

[01:01:52] That when they, when they first built it, all the comments were you put tents on a parking

[01:02:00] lot that is directly in the sun for like eight hours a day.

[01:02:03] And then they like a reporter went out and took one of those thermometer gun or temperature

[01:02:07] guns and like pointed it inside the tent.

[01:02:09] It was like 120 degrees inside the tent closed.

[01:02:12] And it's like, yeah, that brilliant idea.

[01:02:16] Um, so regarding transparency and accountability, uh, they had passed this law, uh, regarding

[01:02:25] safety and sort of the, uh, sort of the safety and the adequacy of homeless shelters in California.

[01:02:32] And it turns out this is from Cal matters.

[01:02:34] And the title is California passed a law to fix unsafe homeless shelters.

[01:02:38] Cities and counties are ignoring it.

[01:02:41] Uh, goes on to say those able to find a shelter will step into a world rife with reports of

[01:02:47] violence, theft, health hazards, a lack of accountability, public records obtained by

[01:02:51] Cal matter show that most cities and counties have seemingly ignored a recent state law that

[01:02:57] aimed to reform dangerous conditions and shelters in 2021, following early reports of

[01:03:02] maggots flooding and sexual harassment and shelters.

[01:03:06] The state legislature created a new system requiring local governments to inspect the facilities after

[01:03:11] complaints and file annual reports on shelter conditions, including plans to fix safety and

[01:03:16] building code violations.

[01:03:18] Cal matters found that just five of California's 58 counties, Lake Los Angeles, Monterey, Orange,

[01:03:26] Orange, congratulations, Orange County, and Yuba have filed shelter reports.

[01:03:30] Only four of the state's 478 cities filed reports, Fairfield, Petaluma, Santa Rosa, and Woodland.

[01:03:40] So not a lot of people are listening to this.

[01:03:43] Um, somebody says, quote, it is shocking.

[01:03:46] Number one, that there's so little reporting considering that this is part of the legislation.

[01:03:49] The law's author, Assemblymember Sharon Quirk Silva, a Democrat who represents parts of Orange

[01:03:55] and LA counties, were asking for the basics here.

[01:03:59] Police call logs, shelter incident reports, and other record records obtained by Cal matters

[01:04:04] provide a hint of what's missing as a result of the failure to report.

[01:04:07] A child falling out of a unreinforced window in San Mateo County and being hospitalized.

[01:04:15] Hospitalized, hospitalized, multiple allegations of sexual harassment in Contra Costa County,

[01:04:19] food shortages in Placer County, and deaths, mold, and vermin in many places across the state.

[01:04:25] Oh boy.

[01:04:27] Um, what happens in these shelters is largely a black box.

[01:04:30] No state agency keeps an updated list of how many shelters are operating or where,

[01:04:34] officials told Cal matters.

[01:04:36] There is no state licensing process for shelters.

[01:04:39] The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development tracks numbers of emergency shelter beds

[01:04:42] and how long people live in them.

[01:04:44] No information about resident deaths, health, or safety.

[01:04:48] So.

[01:04:48] But how dare we expect transparency in the spending?

[01:04:53] Right.

[01:04:54] So, in terms of kind of relaying it back to AB 2570, if we're asking the governor to provide,

[01:05:02] if he wants to take all the responsibility like Gavin Newsom loves to do, he loves to centralize

[01:05:07] all the power in one thing, especially under him.

[01:05:11] Wouldn't we want some transparency of like what's going on?

[01:05:14] And now, right now, we have no idea of like what's going on at these homeless shelters.

[01:05:18] And they sound like absolutely horrible places to send people.

[01:05:22] And if Prop 1's whole goal is we need to build more shelters and beds, yet at the end of it,

[01:05:29] we don't know how safe the shelters and beds are.

[01:05:35] Again, why don't we have any idea of like where this money is going so we can track it

[01:05:41] and be like, is this a good investment or not?

[01:05:43] Oh, you know, 10 million went to this shelter and it's rat infested.

[01:05:49] Right.

[01:05:50] Maybe there's a problem there.

[01:05:52] We had Mayor Bill Wells on a few weeks ago and he did bring that up that on any given night,

[01:05:58] there's X amount of homeless people on the street, but there's also X amount of beds available

[01:06:01] in the shelters.

[01:06:02] But now you read that and you see they probably feel safer on the street than in the shelter.

[01:06:07] I don't see how either one is safer, but I guess it is sort of like you walk in and

[01:06:14] you're like, nope, or you stay there a night or two and you've had your experience and you're like,

[01:06:18] well, I'm never going back to that.

[01:06:19] So I'm going to, you know, try my luck with a tent in a parking lot.

[01:06:23] That's 120 degrees.

[01:06:25] Well, lucky for you.

[01:06:27] The article talks about that.

[01:06:29] Oh, I sincerely haven't read the article.

[01:06:33] It goes, residents of one Huntington Beach shelter recently complained to health officials

[01:06:37] about mold, never ending cases of pneumonia and neighbors walking around with infected open sores.

[01:06:43] Homeless people and their families have filed lawsuits in several cities over shelter,

[01:06:47] sexual assaults and wrongful deaths.

[01:06:49] In San Diego, Sharon Descans has been bouncing between shelters and a borrowed van after being

[01:06:55] evicted from a newer kind of publicly funded tent city where she weathered unpaid labor,

[01:07:01] multiple neighbors deaths and flashes of chaos.

[01:07:03] Quote, people are pulling swords on each other and hitting each other with two by fours.

[01:07:09] All I wanted from day I got there was to get out.

[01:07:14] So sword fights and people beating the crap out of each other with two by fours.

[01:07:19] That sounds so ancient.

[01:07:26] Yeah, I don't know where they got the swords from, but yeah.

[01:07:29] Well, yeah, I read, I didn't even read the article.

[01:07:32] There's like a head on OC register about someone getting killed with a sword somewhere.

[01:07:36] Maybe it was a homeless shelter.

[01:07:37] I should go read the article.

[01:07:38] But no, that was like a headline today or yesterday.

[01:07:44] But seriously, like if you're reading something about sword fights and like two by fours, doesn't

[01:07:50] that to you sound so ancient?

[01:07:53] Like, no, we don't do that in modern times.

[01:07:56] We're better than that.

[01:07:58] We're a civilized country.

[01:07:59] We're civilized.

[01:08:00] Are we not?

[01:08:01] Apparently not.

[01:08:01] We don't stab people with swords and beat them over the head with two by fours.

[01:08:04] Well, in these homeless shelters, they do.

[01:08:07] At a site called Ola, Descans and many neighbors lived in Eskimo brand ice fishing huts that

[01:08:14] multiple residents said were prone to leaking during the rain.

[01:08:16] So these are the tents.

[01:08:18] Her anxiety spiked at the makeshift shelter.

[01:08:20] She said since she didn't have a door to lock and witness widespread drug use and unpredictable

[01:08:25] outbursts.

[01:08:26] One neighbor died of cancer alone in his tent, Descans said, after what seemed like days without

[01:08:31] anyone checking in on them.

[01:08:34] So San Diego is one of the many places that have not submitted any reports since 2021.

[01:08:41] We had a homeless encampment kind of near us.

[01:08:45] We, um, in Anaheim, there's the Santa Santa.

[01:08:51] Okay.

[01:08:51] I shouldn't make up the name.

[01:08:53] There's a riverbed and there was a tent city started accumulating there.

[01:08:58] And then, um, and it was getting worse and worse.

[01:09:01] It was getting pretty crazy.

[01:09:02] Now I'm not going to lie.

[01:09:03] Like in your Melinda, they pretty much don't allow homeless people.

[01:09:07] Like they're like, we'll, we'll find you a shelter.

[01:09:09] And I don't know if they actually do, but they're, they're, they're kind of like taken

[01:09:15] out and, and there's, there's churches and stuff that feed them and everything.

[01:09:18] But like, we don't have them sleeping on benches and in tents in your Melinda and in parts of

[01:09:23] Anaheim Hills, but the riverbed that is kind of an Anaheim Hills area, there was a huge tent

[01:09:28] encampment growing there.

[01:09:30] Well, then they, there started to be like fires and of course, drug use and stuff.

[01:09:34] And then one fire spread and killed somebody, a homeless person inside of a tent.

[01:09:38] And so that the city or the County came in and like cleared it up.

[01:09:42] And of course, like they reported on everything that was found, which was like thousands of

[01:09:46] needles and the sleeping conditions and everything.

[01:09:49] So the shelters aren't safe.

[01:09:52] The tent camps aren't safe women.

[01:09:55] And we've, we've talked about this before, like in San Francisco, where they're sleeping

[01:09:58] on the street, like there's these people with their, their legal drug use and the women

[01:10:03] are passed out and it's basically legal to just rape them.

[01:10:08] And that's, we don't want this, this again, this is not compassionate.

[01:10:13] I see we've kind of called me up past time.

[01:10:15] So I'm trying to be careful, but like we've talked about these laws that are supposed to

[01:10:19] be for compassion and stuff.

[01:10:20] There's nothing compassionate about these, these laws.

[01:10:23] There has to be transparency.

[01:10:25] If we want to actually help homeless people, we can't just put them into moldy.

[01:10:34] Diseased rape houses.

[01:10:39] But then we can't killing each other with swords.

[01:10:41] Like go beyond the street and leave your needles everywhere where, you know, passerbyers might

[01:10:46] accidentally get jabbed for wearing sandals or where the tents are 120 degrees and people

[01:10:51] are baking to death.

[01:10:52] And like none, none of that is compassionate.

[01:10:55] And yet we are throwing billions and billions of dollars at this.

[01:10:59] Yeah.

[01:10:59] It just makes, and then we don't know where it went and they go, how dare you ask?

[01:11:04] We don't know.

[01:11:07] That's work.

[01:11:09] Or what was it?

[01:11:10] What was the quote?

[01:11:11] Unnecessary ongoing workload.

[01:11:13] Yeah.

[01:11:15] Like that's too much work for us to tell you where the money's going.

[01:11:18] So I think you, you perfectly summed it up.

[01:11:20] Like it's, you have Democrats who pushed and pushed and pushed and finally got their way

[01:11:28] with prop one, especially Gavin Newsom.

[01:11:31] They wanted, you know, billions more dollars after we've already spent $24 billion that we

[01:11:37] have no idea.

[01:11:38] And we still don't like we've done that episode.

[01:11:41] How long ago are we just, I guess we're just fine with it.

[01:11:46] I guess we're just fine with that $24 billion is gone because there hasn't been any news on

[01:11:50] like where it went.

[01:11:52] Like we haven't gotten any update or reports.

[01:11:54] So I guess we all just wash our hands of like where $24 billion went and nobody won't.

[01:11:58] And the same thing will probably happen with the money for prop one with this bond is, you

[01:12:03] know, taxpayers will be on the hook to pay back that bond for $10 billion by the time it's all

[01:12:08] said and done with interest and inflation.

[01:12:11] And you look at the conditions on the ground of how bad this all is across the state, like

[01:12:19] the state's not complying.

[01:12:21] They're not playing ball with any of these laws.

[01:12:24] Like homeless people are dying in tents of cancer because no one's checking on them or

[01:12:28] heat stroke or anything like it's just getting really bad out there for them.

[01:12:33] And their whole thing is just give us more money.

[01:12:37] Like that will fix the problem.

[01:12:38] Like obviously like it's we didn't spend enough before with $24 billion.

[01:12:44] So now just give us $10 more billion.

[01:12:48] And I'm saying $10 billion because, you know, with inflation and everything, it's going to

[01:12:52] end up being $10 billion.

[01:12:54] I think it was like $6 billion is what we agreed to a little or what people voted for

[01:12:58] and agreed to.

[01:12:59] I didn't agree to it.

[01:13:00] I voted no on it.

[01:13:03] But yeah, it's it's it doesn't show like anybody knows what they're doing.

[01:13:08] I mean, everyone's pointing the finger at somebody else and their only solution is let's just

[01:13:13] throw more money at it, which, you know, I think homelessness.

[01:13:18] And we talked about this last week about how with what's going on national politics, I don't

[01:13:24] think any smart Democrats going to want to jump in and replace Joe Biden right now.

[01:13:29] I don't think Newsom's going to want to do that right now, mostly because they think it's

[01:13:34] going to be a Trump landslide.

[01:13:37] But this issues like this and the other one we just talked about, AB 1955, I think these

[01:13:43] are two issues that could automatically like sink Gavin Newsom's presidential ambitions

[01:13:48] like before he even gets started.

[01:13:52] That might be a good way to wrap the show is is I think these two things homelessness, the

[01:13:57] lack of transparency on homelessness, how bad it's been, how much money he spent on it to

[01:14:02] not see any, any improvement.

[01:14:05] And then this whole issue with parental rights, these might be two albatrosses around his neck

[01:14:11] when it comes to running for president in 2028.

[01:14:14] What are your thoughts?

[01:14:16] Well, yeah, I think especially red states aren't going to be on board with that.

[01:14:21] And I just going back to the unnecessary workload, this is absolutely necessary workload.

[01:14:27] So until we rein in and get to our insurance and figure out what's going on, it can't be

[01:14:33] fixed.

[01:14:33] You said you can't just throw more money at it.

[01:14:37] Yeah, there's there's a fire and we're just like throwing money and going, I can't believe

[01:14:41] this is burning up.

[01:14:42] Yeah.

[01:14:44] Yeah, it's just it's unfathomable to think that that that you clearly didn't know how

[01:14:50] to spend twenty four billion dollars.

[01:14:52] You don't know what you spend it on and then you have the audacity it has for more money

[01:14:56] and then you have even more audacity to be like, how dare you ask where we're spending

[01:14:59] it?

[01:15:00] Like we don't have to tell you that.

[01:15:02] That's not part of our job.

[01:15:06] So something else we want to keep you abreast of is going on.

[01:15:10] Gavin Newsom doesn't want you to know where the homeless spending is going.

[01:15:14] So that should be fun in 2028.

[01:15:16] Someone should ask him that question on the debate stage, whatever Democrats running against

[01:15:20] them in the primary.

[01:15:21] But yeah, I think it's a good place to wrap.

[01:15:25] We're we're a little over an hour.

[01:15:27] Any final thoughts before we hop off?

[01:15:30] No, I think I think I said too much.

[01:15:34] So we covered the gamut on this one.

[01:15:37] All right.

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