Ep. 262" Convo with Sheriff Bianco

[00:00:00] If you're a California conservative, a libertarian, a moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just the sane person, this is the Political Podcast for you. It's the California Underground Podcast. What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California Underground.

[00:00:31] I'm your host Phil along with me is my trusty co-host, the best and fastest researcher in the West with hopefully better internet this week. And we have tonight a very special guest. I'm your host Phil, and I'm the host of Riverside Chat Bianco Chat.

[00:00:45] How are you welcome to the show? I'm doing very good. Thank you. Happy to be here. Thanks for, thanks for reaching out and looking forward to it. Absolutely. Well, you are quite the sensation online. So we're glad we were able to get you on.

[00:01:01] You've been creating some waves. But before we get into kind of discussing, you know, your past, your social media posts on that, let's get started with who are you? Where did you get started and all that just to introduce yourself to our listeners? Very good.

[00:01:17] My name is Chad Bianco. I'm the sheriff of Riverside County, Southern California. We, I not only am I the sheriff, I am the corner, the public administrator. And we're a very large agency where the second largest sheriff's office in the

[00:01:33] state after Los Angeles, we've got about 4,200 employees operating budget of 1.1 ish billion dollars. Fairly large agency. I think overall nationwide overall sheriff and police were right around number 20, nine to between 19 and 21 depending on the month in size wise. So we're rather large.

[00:01:56] I've been the sheriff of Riverside County since 2018, the November 2018 election. And I've worked for the Riverside County Sheriff's office since 1993. So I'm in my 24 or my 31st year and I'm in year number five as the sheriff. And just so people are aware, sheriff is an elected position. Correct?

[00:02:21] Absolutely. So in the state of California, we are elected. We're elected by the district attorney. We're elected by the district attorney. And we're elected by the district attorney. And this is like that in most parts of the country,

[00:02:32] but there are some states that do not have elected sheriffs. But for here, we are elected where the, the high for each of our respective counties were the highest elected official in the county. We're not broken down by districts or regions or anything like that. It's all one.

[00:02:48] The entire county is who votes. So it's a. It's a state of the art. It's a state of the art. It's a state of the art. And we're elected by everyone in the entire county. So, and again, we like to say on our show how much local elections

[00:03:01] matter. And that sheriff is one position that I don't think people realize is elected and how important that is. And there's positions like police chief of like, so I live in San Diego, the police chief is picked by the mayor who you elect.

[00:03:18] And I'm like, what the difference is in how you approach your job because you're elected as opposed to maybe the police chief of San Diego. The. The sheriff is listed and or is named in the constitution of California. So I'm a constitutionally elected officer.

[00:03:37] And the difference between sheriff and police is just kind of how you laid it out there. A police chief is appointed by either a mayor, a city council, city manager, or sometimes a combination or some type of variation of those. But it's certainly an appointed at will position.

[00:03:55] So the difference is, is my share, my election is every four years and I'm voted in by the people on what they feel should be the direction or who they feel would be leading law enforcement in that county in the direction that they would hope.

[00:04:13] And the major difference is that election and that appointment. So my, I answer only to the voters. I don't answer to the governor, the board of supervisors, the, I mean, even the president. I mean, I don't answer to anyone other than the voters of Riverside County.

[00:04:30] And so major difference of just how that works is unfortunately for now where we are as a society, everything is about politics and a police chief really is at the whim of politicians. And if he does something to, it doesn't really matter if it's

[00:04:51] the right thing to do for public safety. If the politicians decide they don't want something done and he does the right thing and does it anyway, he has that potential of being fired on the spot. And I mean, obviously in now without a job.

[00:05:06] That can't happen to me. It's my job every day to do what I feel is right by law and order for the residents of Riverside County serving them the best. And I politics aside, I don't care about politics. And it's, it's right and wrong.

[00:05:24] It's abiding by the laws and it's how I feel I could best serve our residents not only really in laws, but being a constitutional officer, I am there to safeguard their constitutional rights as well as their, their public safety.

[00:05:39] So let's, let's kind of go down that road a little bit because you've been sheriff since 2018. There was some minor world events that happened between 2018 and now. And a lot of sure. He did. Sorry, did I did I come back? Yeah, you're back now. Oh, okay.

[00:06:05] So I was saying that you've been sheriff since 2018. Some minor world events happened between then and now. Take us through you being sheriff what that was like during the time of 2020 2021 as a sheriff and elected member to, to kind of uphold the constitution in people's rights.

[00:06:28] Yeah, I'll tell you that is a, that is those years being thrust into, into that situation. As I was learning the role of sheriff and what my role was and what my responsibilities were then coming into 2020 with,

[00:06:44] with COVID with civil unrest with the riots that we had and, and all of those things that was, that is certainly not something that anyone warned me about or anyone even thought about. That wasn't something that, that was even on anyone's radar or

[00:07:02] even really in the realm of possibility. So once I really, I don't want to say I had a little bit in as far as the, the COVID part goes right before the civil unrest and all the riots. The first plane that was identified, we know now that

[00:07:22] it wasn't the first plane COVID was here months before they, they thought it was or they admitted that it was, but the first identified plane that was loaded with passengers from Wuhan to America landed in my county and it landed at

[00:07:39] an Air Force base, March Air Force base that's here in Moreno Valley. And we were responsible for quarantining that plane for two weeks while medical determined what was going to be the extent of, of the virus, the testing, the, the taking care of, of people.

[00:07:59] So we had, and that was about two months, but that was in February. That was at the end of January, early February. And then we had about two months before they announced that there was the first case.

[00:08:12] So we were, we knew that the potential of it being bad was, it could be bad. All of the warnings, I mean, the original warnings were 40% of the population is going to die and how, how bad everything was going to be.

[00:08:26] But for us, it was one of those considering our inmate population because our inmate population is, I mean, you can consider there was one point in the pan during the pandemic that a cruise ship came down with COVID. Somebody had COVID and the entire ship was stranded out

[00:08:49] and see for two weeks while with all of these people with that are, that now have been exposed and we're getting COVID. Before all of that happened, we realized that a jail is basically a cruise ship. It, a jail is completely isolated.

[00:09:04] The air system is all circulatory through filters, everything else, but nothing, you have to bring everything in, nothing goes out. And so we really had to be concerned about our inmates, which we were, and we had plans in place for if things

[00:09:19] broke out bad and how we were going to manage inmate population, if they were all sick or if we couldn't get into them. So as we're dealing through that and working through that, and I got to tell you from my perspective,

[00:09:33] that's, I guess in hindsight now because I, you know nothing about me, but in my personal being, I'm not, I'm not a very outgoing person into where I don't want anybody knowing about my personal life. I'm not very, it's like, oh yeah, hey, whatever,

[00:09:52] you know, it's all good, but I'm very private. And so I don't necessarily want the limelight. I think I was, it was forced onto me because of all of this and particularly because of COVID. There were several weeks, maybe even a month or so of

[00:10:09] these meetings, of these daily meetings of certainly weekly meetings and then subcommittee meetings and everything else about how we were going to handle COVID. And I got to be really honest with you. I was getting very frustrated as the weeks were moving

[00:10:23] on because we were being told so many contradicting things and different information that was completely opposite of what they were telling us before. And when I questioned that from our medical world, from our medical experts, I was basically attacked that you know, you don't know what you're talking

[00:10:46] about. This is our world. We know what's best for everybody and this is what's going to have to happen. And so then they started talking about, you know, the lockdowns and locking people in their homes and arresting them if they came out of their

[00:11:00] homes and shutting down everyone's business and the church closures and everything else. That's before it really happened. And I was very vocal in these meetings about that's the wrong thing to do. We can't do that. We're in America and you can't stop people from doing those things.

[00:11:17] And I really was pushed aside. They didn't want to hear from me anymore. I was told at one point, you can stop coming to these meetings. We know what you feel. We know what you're going to say. There's no sense in you coming here and just

[00:11:30] saying it every time. So I didn't go anymore. I had no, I had no intention of going anymore. And then came the lockdowns and it was okay for a week. I really did think it was okay for a week. We'll all stay home. Everything will be better.

[00:11:46] We'll get over it and it's fine. Then it went to two weeks, then it went to three weeks. Then it was more and we had a board meeting one day talking about closing everything churches and all of that. And I honestly, I just had enough. I left home.

[00:12:00] I told my wife what I was going to say. She said, no, you can't do that. I don't want to say she threatened me, but she highly suggested that I did not go to the board and say that. But I watched it online.

[00:12:14] I was listening to what they were saying. I could tell that they were going down that path of a complete lockdown and I couldn't take them anymore. And I went to the board meeting. I voiced my concerns. I told them that from a law enforcement perspective,

[00:12:30] I would never arrest anyone for coming outside their home or for not wearing a mask or for not closing their business. And there were many things that went into that. It wasn't just, I wasn't going to defy anything. I didn't believe based on what they were telling us

[00:12:47] on the legal reasons why they could do it, it didn't fit. It didn't meet those requirements of taking away someone's liberties and their freedoms and all of those things. It's like, that doesn't even make sense. What you're telling me does not,

[00:13:02] you've stretched the statute to meet your agenda and you can't violate somebody's rights like that. And then just the fact that all during this time they were, they can't force, but it was very highly suggested that all inmates be released because they knew that internally

[00:13:25] in that closed environment, they were probably all going to get exposed. And for the most part, many of them did, but they wanted them all released because they were afraid everybody was going to die and all of that stuff. And I told them right from the beginning,

[00:13:39] it's never going to happen. I am not releasing the criminals that we have in our jail that are there for, in my jail, they have all harmed other people. We only have people crimes in our jail. And I said, I am not releasing those inmates

[00:13:55] and then you want me to go arrest someone for not wearing a mask or for coming outside their home. And so I took a very hard line and said that I wouldn't do it. I was not going to enforce those orders.

[00:14:06] I was not going to enforce those restrictions. I wanted businesses to know that the sheriff's office was not coming to them. And what that did is it almost, I don't want to say it empowered, but the cities that were around us that aren't affected by me

[00:14:22] that, but they're still in my county, those chiefs of police were all on the same page as me. And then it almost empowered them to go to their council and say, look, we can't do this. We believe exactly what he's doing.

[00:14:36] And we need to do the same thing. We're not, we have real crime that we still have to take care of. It's great that you guys are dealing with this, but that doesn't stop the robberies, the burglaries, the rapes, the stolen properties

[00:14:51] and everything else that we have to deal with. We can't take away from those resources and put them to mask enforcement. And that's kind of the stance we took. So Riverside County really for the most part, we certainly, I certainly, if someone wanted to wear a mask,

[00:15:05] I mean, of course you had to wear a mask or you should wear a mask. And businesses, if they wanted to enforce the rules, great. People went there if they wanted to. If they didn't, they didn't. And for Riverside County, it worked here.

[00:15:18] We really didn't have any problems. As that's happening, now we have the civil unrest in the country. So not only do I have to deal with a pandemic and a law enforcement aspect, and what I'm feeling are constitutional violations that I'm having to care about

[00:15:38] that I had never even thought about before, then we have the riots and we have cities burning down and we're watching this come to us. And I do have to say, I was very upset and very disappointed with the way those riots and the lootings

[00:15:58] and all of those things were being handled by law enforcement. But we didn't have it in Riverside. So it eventually came to us after three or four days of Los Angeles. And we kind of got word from Intel Word that they were heading to us

[00:16:15] after they were being arrested in LA. And knowing that, knowing that they were coming to us, knowing that I thought it was being handled wrong, we had an absolute zero tolerance for any type of riot situation. Being a constitutional officer,

[00:16:37] I certainly had to uphold their rights to protest, to uphold their rights to gather and do all of those things. But there is a very big difference between a march and a protest and a riot. And these, when I would see on the news of mostly peaceful protests,

[00:16:58] there's no such thing as a mostly peaceful protest because it's either peaceful or it's not. And when it is not, it is illegal and we have to do everything we can to not only stop it from happening, but protect the people that are either there

[00:17:14] or residents or bystanders or something like that. So we had an absolute zero tolerance policy. And knowing that it was going to happen, we engaged with the protesters, we laid the ground rules to them. And I was very, very specific and upfront and honest with them and said,

[00:17:36] I will be right there on the front lines making sure that you can protest, but the moment you change and go violent protest or cause damage or it moves from a peaceful protest, we will end it and we will end it quickly.

[00:17:52] And they agreed, they knew it, they said they would. And we actually that night, we put a curfew out. We had our border supervisors do an emergency curfew that we made, I think it was seven or eight o'clock at night and they started their protest in the afternoon.

[00:18:09] So they knew they had four or five, six hours that they were going to be able to protest. We had roughly estimating about 10,000 people in our downtown area. And I had about a thousand deputies.

[00:18:21] There was no way that I was going to do what I saw on TV with people running through the streets and cops by themselves not being able to do anything because of the violence and the things that were going on.

[00:18:33] We were going to make sure that we handled it and we handled it correctly. And sure enough, we actually allowed them to go past the curfew because they were behaving. It was just a normal protest. And then at one point, I remember seeing something

[00:18:51] flying through the sky and a water bottle that was frozen ended up hitting right next to one of my deputies. And as that slow motion thing was coming through the crowd, you could just feel the tension on their side change. Then the protest went to yelling

[00:19:13] and then more items started flying. And immediately we gave the order to disperse and proceeded to disperse them. It took us about 20 minutes, maybe 30, no more than 30, and we had our entire 14-square block area of downtown vacated. They had all dispersed.

[00:19:37] Most of them had all left either in cars or were walking or whatever the case may be. We only had one building damaged. It was not looted. They just broke a window, but they were prevented by other law enforcement that was there from going inside.

[00:19:50] We had no damage to buildings, no damages to businesses, and there was not one single person hurt. There was not an injury by law enforcement and there was not an injury that was reported to us from anyone that was in the crowd. And they never came back.

[00:20:06] We had a few small protests in the coming weeks that they were maybe 100 people, and they were very peaceful. We allowed them to protest, but for Riverside County after we set the tone on day one, they never came back. There were social media groups that we followed

[00:20:25] that we were getting intel from. They were all talking about it. We're not going back to Riverside County. We'll go to LA. We'll go to other places because we're being allowed to proceed and they don't mess around in Riverside, and we were happy about that.

[00:20:41] That was our goal. And for the last several years, we've had some protests even coming up into what we're seeing now with Israel and Hamas and Palestine and everything else, but those protests are extremely small. Even on our college, on our UCR, we have here in Riverside,

[00:21:01] University of California, Riverside, they had a very small protest, but they 100% knew that we were there and they were extremely peaceful. They were there for a couple of days. Chancellor told them it was time to go and they left. And we liked that.

[00:21:16] We want them to be able to protest. We don't want the violence. We don't want any of those things. And consistently from law enforcement and even from the university and from city leaders, they all attribute it back to that 2020, we set the tone.

[00:21:32] And that was, I will take the credit for it. You know, I had to work with CHP and I had to work with our local Riverside Police Department. They were fully on board and we were all able to do that together.

[00:21:48] But they were, I made it very clear to them, I wanted them helping me, but I was doing it with or without them and we weren't going to put up with what was going on in the rest of the state and the rest of the country.

[00:22:00] So my first year in office was a drinking from a fire hose of trying to learn everything. What's my role? Who is the sheriff? What does the sheriff do? The second year was COVID disaster and civil unrest. And I will tell you that year number three,

[00:22:19] I mean it could have, I don't care what happened in year three. I don't even remember because it was just normal business. It was the things you do every day. It was not the daily drama and the daily uncertainty and unknown, the politics that was 2020 and some of 2021.

[00:22:41] So, and that goes for all law enforcement. We were all put in the same boat and we were all, you know, shaking our heads and lots of meetings and conference calls and trying to go over best practices and how we would do things.

[00:22:54] And it really, we all know, I mean the public might not benefit from it, but well it does now, but they didn't at the time. Law enforcement consistently has always operated in silos. We, the sheriff's offices, the sheriff's office, Riverside police is Riverside police, Corona is Corona police.

[00:23:13] And we, everything's all close to the best. And because all of that happened and because we had to have those relationships, even with our partners in San Bernardino County, it can, we completely knocked those things down and then discussions throughout the rest of the state.

[00:23:29] We operate differently now. It's not something we wish we would have went through, but we certainly know that when we came out the other end, we are better serving the public because we realized those barriers were obstacles and we are much better servants of the public

[00:23:45] when we don't care that we're independent law enforcement. We're all the same thing. Well, there's a lot I want to touch upon in that because there's a lot we can discuss and break down, but there is a question from our chat online.

[00:24:00] Are you okay to take in a question? It's not a gotcha question. It's a good question. Oh yeah. It says, Sheriff, what are your thoughts on the unconstitutional prop A that residents in LA County voted in favor of the prop

[00:24:12] that allows the Board of Supervisors to remove a sheriff from office? And for anyone else who's watching, if you have a question for Chad, please put it in the chat. We'll fire away. Yeah, that was it. That's a horrible,

[00:24:24] that was an absolutely horrible thing to do and to go through. And we watched it happening because they were trying to do it in the state. They were trying to pass a law to make all sheriffs to take the

[00:24:36] voting away from everyone in the counties across the state and make those sheriffs appointed by the board. And I get, I get joked with all the time that they, you know, it was a, I can't remember the AB, the bill number, the assembly bill number,

[00:24:52] but they used to just call it the be on colo because they knew that because I was that vocal front, because I was that, that, that person going against the governor, not blindly doing what I'm told, you know, by the governor and,

[00:25:07] and being the muscle for his agenda. They tried legally through the legislature to make it so statewide. We were no longer a constitutionally elected office. We were an appointed office. And that's strictly so they could have political control. I hope everybody listening or watching can,

[00:25:28] can see the, the benefit of having an elected official rat that you can unelect rather than an appointed person that has to be worried about whether somebody's having a bad day or whatever political side they're on.

[00:25:43] Putting those muscles or the, you know, flexing that muscle or putting that thumb and forcing them to do something they didn't want to do, or that they shouldn't do, that is a political motive rather than a legal or a, or a right mode. And so that failed.

[00:26:00] It failed miserably because we were very vocal about it and we were calling them out on, on what they were doing. And they moved it to just Los Angeles kind of knowing that it would be

[00:26:13] easier to do in Los Angeles because of all the drama that was going on and because of the voter base that they had, that they could turn against the sheriff and paint him out to be this bad person and then get that vote to get that to pass.

[00:26:27] And then their ultimate goal is, oh look, you can do it in LA. Now we're going to come forward with the bill again and say, hey, we're just going to make the rest of the state like Los Angeles.

[00:26:37] And they tried the next year and we shot it down again. We were able to get that bill, a bill stopped before it was able to be voted on. And we know they'll bring it back, but people have to absolutely realize,

[00:26:50] and I'm not talking about the power of the sheriff. I'm talking about the power of the people, the power of the residents of that county to control the law enforcement in their area, whether it's their city,

[00:27:03] the city of Los Angeles or the county of Los Angeles or the county of Riverside. It is up to the people who that's, that's how we were designed. That's how this country was made great by having people that you can elect into positions of authority

[00:27:19] that you want certain things to happen. And it's, it's by far better. You can see just really during the COVID thing, there were a lot of police agencies, police chiefs.

[00:27:34] And this is where I had my heartache with a lot of them is they did things that they knew was ethically wrong for them to do. And while it was right, whether they could do it or not doesn't mean it's right.

[00:27:47] Just because it's right, because the governor said it was doesn't really mean it's right. And so when those police officers were, or police chiefs were pressured by their city council or by their mayor or by a city manager threatening them with their job

[00:28:03] to do something that they knew that they shouldn't do, there's something really wrong with that, especially when it comes to law enforcement. And I'll give an example and my wife doesn't let me like me talking about this,

[00:28:15] but I believe it's a perfect example of where an elected official is more important than a appointed official for law enforcement. And it I'll take you back to Jim Crow laws.

[00:28:30] And I wish I had been the sheriff and elected sheriff during those during that time of segregation and laws that were that were obviously we all know

[00:28:42] and we can look back and say they knew it at the time that they were violating people's constitutional rights because of the color of their skin. We knew everyone knew they were racist.

[00:28:53] I wish I would have been there at that time because in those places in those times, those were appointed law enforcement officers that were being pressured by politics to enforce those laws. And if they had someone that was represented,

[00:29:11] that was a representative of the people that was doing the right thing by the people, I believe and I hope, I know I would, but I hope there would be many others in there at the time that would have stood up and said,

[00:29:24] these are absolutely wrong. We're not enforcing those those laws because anyone with common sense can see their it's unconstitutional. And so bringing that forward, you have to admit and you have to realize that we are in a completely polarized political world where everything is being made politics.

[00:29:46] And whether you whether you like me or not, or whether you whether you believe I'm I'm right or too far right or middle or somewhat moderate left, whatever it is you believe doesn't really matter.

[00:30:05] Everyone in Riverside County knows that all I'm going to do is the right thing and that political pressure is not going to intimidate me or or, you know, blackmail me

[00:30:15] or coerce me into doing something that I know is wrong, that is not for the benefit of the people. And Los Angeles lost that.

[00:30:24] Now every place in the state, if I do something illegal, I can be removed from office that I mean that's just to give me anyone can we can remove any little any elected official can be removed for illegal behavior.

[00:30:40] The problem with what they did and what they want in the state is they just they with a four fifths vote. If if you're not like by four fifths of the vote, then they can unelect you for whatever reason they deem necessary.

[00:30:54] And for our safety for public safety in whatever area you are in that is the that is absolutely the wrong way to go when now you're talking about you're not talking about right wrong morals ethics, legal not legal constitutional or not.

[00:31:11] You're talking about politics and that law enforcement official is going to be beholden to politics. That's not what we were designed for that's not the part we we play in the the trifecta that makes up the government of of a Constitution, and it's completely wrong.

[00:31:32] There's to your point, I think people need to look at we must have. Did I come back? Hello. For us over just a second. It's always what it's always right when I first start talking I'm like it's like the computer knows.

[00:31:49] Yeah, I think to your point it's it's different when you're appointed by a politician and you're a bureaucrat.

[00:31:56] And you have to play that political game of oh I got a piece this person I you know if I want to keep my job and keep moving up the ladder I got to the only people you have to appease or the other bureaucrats.

[00:32:07] And then it gets into this entrenchment of well did anybody like this bureaucrat but for you it's if people don't like you as an elected official the recourse is well every several years, we have an election and the people go to the ballot and they could get rid of you, or they

[00:32:24] could you lose me again. Why is it always when I'm talking the recourse is the recourse is that the recourse is every couple of years. People can come in and vote and vote you out and put someone else new in so that's your who you're beholden to right.

[00:32:43] Right, and honestly that that really is how it should be. And there's the politicians that were trying to make this happen. They certainly don't want their role like that. I mean they don't want the governor Newsom, you know, Mr ego and Mr narcissist.

[00:33:00] Certainly not going to allow a an appointed board or an elected board to remove him. Right.

[00:33:09] But yet they wanted, it was just the sheriff, but not a city council member, not a governor, not a lieutenant governor, not anybody else that's in any form of government, none of our legislators.

[00:33:22] It's, it's only that person at the time that was defying their political agenda and everyone saw through it. It was easy to see through.

[00:33:33] I mean, it's the we believe in protecting democracy as long as we agree with that democracy right and we saw that today with the Supreme Court decision. I mean it's on full display Gavin Newsom doesn't want you voting on certain things.

[00:33:50] We saw him push to get rid of this tax initiative and now he's pushing behind closed doors to get rid of the ballot initiative that would reform prop 47.

[00:33:59] And I know you have a lot of thoughts on that. So what are your thoughts on the the ballot measure that we're all going to be voting on to reform prop 47?

[00:34:06] Yeah, I've got tons of them. I will try and keep it brief because I need to be concise for everybody that's listening.

[00:34:13] We, we don't know what proposition number this is going to be yet it hasn't been assigned. But we know it's called the the homelessness the drug addiction and theft reduction act.

[00:34:24] That name has been applied already so we know it's called that which is good. That's a good thing. Everyone has to absolutely know this must pass almost 80% of the state of California polling multiple polling, 80% consistently want prop 47 repealed or drastically changed.

[00:34:50] And this is going to be the proposition that does it. The legislature cannot do it. The governor even today said that the the legislature could make fixes.

[00:35:00] That is an absolute dishonest statement and he knows it's dishonest because prop 47 was put in place by the voters and it can only be changed by the voters. So prop 47 must be fixed by us passing this proposition in November. And here comes the problem.

[00:35:21] Everyone knows by now we it's been several of the last years informing the general public that prop 47 has been the downfall of public safety in California. And it started in 2014 when they lied to us in the naming of the proposition and what the proposition was going to do.

[00:35:42] And they called it the safe streets and safe schools initiative. It had absolutely nothing to do with safe streets it had absolutely nothing to do with safe schools but if I tell you right now, we need to make schools safe and streets safe.

[00:35:57] And we're all going to agree. Yes, you're right. And oh here's the proposition. I'm voting for it. That's what happened in 2014 they absolutely lied to us and misled us into passing prop 47 knowing that voters had to unapprove it in the future.

[00:36:19] And so we changed. And so fast forward to now in 2020, we had a ballot on or we had a the similar instance where we had a proposition that was going to make substantial changes to 47 almost repeal 47 and we got it on the ballot.

[00:36:40] And it ended up being named and the wording that they put on there. When I saw it when I got my ballot, and I read my ballot. I'm like we're done. There's no way this thing passes. It should have passed and eat and it was shot down.

[00:36:55] I knew it was not going to pass when we got our mail in ballots and my wife was filling out hers.

[00:37:01] And she said she said the name of the ballot or the initiative and she's like, oh that's a no. And I'm like, oh my gosh, stop. No, that is a yes.

[00:37:08] And she's like, well, it says right here it's going to do this. I'm like, I know but that's not true. And so it was voted down.

[00:37:17] And so now fast forward to this year. We were successful in getting it on the ballot again. Luckily, we got a good name for it. It's not a deceiving name.

[00:37:29] It really is. It is concerning what we're talking about. Democratic leadership including the governor did not believe we were going to get enough signatures. They didn't think we had the money. They didn't think we had the ability to get it on the ballot because it had just failed.

[00:37:45] They were wrong. So as we're moving forward and it became obvious that we were going to pass it and then we turn in all of these signatures, and it's like, oh my gosh, we've got it.

[00:37:56] There's no way this is not going to be on the ballot. They had to come up with a plan to somehow get rid of it and somehow make it not pass.

[00:38:05] The governor as early as last week or as late as last week said that Prop 47 does not have to be changed. We don't have to go backward. Well, we don't have to go backward. What we have to do is move forward from this horrible place that we are.

[00:38:24] And the only way we move forward is by getting rid of some of those provisions in Prop 47. So as we are going into November, the good thing about this year is a substantial portion of our legislators are up for reelection.

[00:38:42] Combine that with the state of California, the regular people of California. We all go to the grocery store. We all try and go out to dinner. We all try and go to businesses, open our businesses, take our kids to school.

[00:38:57] And we are being overrun with life in California being extremely violent. Theft is rampant. We're afraid of all of the... You can't go into a grocery store without being accosted by someone that's homeless.

[00:39:15] Businesses are being closed because of all the theft. We're in a horrible place in public safety. The legislature knows it, so they came up with a set of bills. I think there's 11 of them and they call it their package.

[00:39:31] And mind you, this is all Democrat. They don't want any Republican support. They want to tell California that the Democrats are going to fix the problem. And here's their crime and safety bills. There's a group of about 11 of them. They are extremely weak.

[00:39:45] They are very watered down, and they have no teeth in them at the end. But they sound good. They really do. And they are at least... You may have to arrest somebody 100 more times, but at least there's a potential of them having a consequence.

[00:40:00] So they got law enforcement to get behind them. And we endorsed all of those bills. It wasn't ideal, but we knew this was the best we were going to get. So we're like, we'll take anything we can.

[00:40:10] Now we passed the ballot. We're going to be with the initiative. It's approved. It's going to be on the ballot. And now they're panicked because how are they going to get us to not vote for that?

[00:40:25] So this is what they came up with. They will pass this group of 11 bills and they will do it in emergency fashion. And what that does is it allows the governor to sign that bill immediately, and the law takes effect immediately upon signing.

[00:40:42] So we're going to have 11 within the next several weeks. We will have 11 bills that are signed into law and they go into effect immediately. What that will allow them to do is say, we care so much about public safety.

[00:40:57] We passed these 11 bills and we got it put into effect immediately. We're moving forward. Now we're coming up on that, on our election in November with the ballot measure for 47. And they have now inserted an amendment into all 11 of those bills that says if this ballot initiative,

[00:41:22] the Drug Homelessness and Thief Reduction Act, if that passes, all of these 11 bills will be automatically repealed. What that does is it allows the Attorney General to now go in and write the narrative in our ballot books

[00:41:42] that when we read it, and if you think about your ballot books, it says a vote for this would do this.

[00:41:49] A vote against this would do this. So what they're going to do is they're going to say a vote for this proposition would immediately repeal these 11 wonderful bills that we put in place to save California. And that's why you shouldn't vote for this proposition.

[00:42:10] It is extremely disingenuous. It is extremely unethical, immoral and wrong. And they are absolutely lying to the people.

[00:42:20] The Governor, Governor Newsom, Attorney General Bonta, the Senate Pro Tem and the Speaker of the Assembly are absolutely lying to the Californians in what they are doing with this all out of the out of out of a an agenda driven, idealized, idealized

[00:42:38] ideological outlook and push for Californians that is being really orchestrated and enabled by Prop 47. They don't want Prop 47 repealed or changed, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure that we vote the wrong way.

[00:42:59] What they did in 2014 to trick us into voting for Prop 47, they are going to attempt the same thing in November to trick us into not approving this ballot measure that will fix most of the aspects of Prop 47.

[00:43:18] Well, I guess we got lucky that they didn't name it like the kill puppies initiative or something like that. Like it's sort of close.

[00:43:26] But with everything going on, do you see, I've been seeing Democratic politicians feeling the pressure and I've been seeing several of them just starting to back away from these bills and saying, oh, I'm taking my name off it.

[00:43:39] Like you said, to your point, a lot of them are from reelection. So maybe they're going, this is a hot potato. I don't really want. I'm going to step back from it. Because I don't want to be caught in the hole like I'm trying to sabotage this reform.

[00:43:54] While you're off, I'll go off. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, we lost you for a little bit, but I know where you're going and you're absolutely right in that we have to make this happen.

[00:44:07] And we have to, we can't, we can't fall victim to it again. We can't, we have to do everything we can to make sure we get the word out to the people of what they're supposed to vote for how they should vote and really how we're going to fix California.

[00:44:20] And you are exactly right that our legislature, some of them are even of those 11 bills. I know that there was at least one that the author pulled his bill rather than insert that language, that poison pill.

[00:44:37] And the other language that would have done that, he was like, there's no way I'm not doing this. I'm not even going to have that a bill anymore because it's wrong. And some of them are coming out and saying it's wrong.

[00:44:48] And I can tell you that from my perspective of me being involved in Sacramento for the last several years and being extremely vocal.

[00:44:57] And I'm being approached now by Democrats and they are, they are running their bills by me first saying, do you have a suggestion? Would you oppose this? Is this a good or bad thing for public safety?

[00:45:12] Do you have, if we could make you happy with an amendment, would you not oppose it? And last year, the year before, that would have never happened. Never would that have happened.

[00:45:25] They had complete control and they were just, they were, you know, thumbing their noses at us in law enforcement. They didn't ask about anything. They didn't have to. They have complete control of everything.

[00:45:36] But now knowing that the tides are changing and that some of the Democrats, and I want to make this perfectly clear for everybody out there because I get branded as this right wing extremist, which really I am not.

[00:45:48] I'm very moderate. I certainly am a conservative Republican, but I'm not, I certainly not an extremist. I believe we need an equal representative, representative government of Democrats and Republicans.

[00:46:01] We can't have a one party rule where you do everything that you want. We've been that way for 30 years and look at where we are. California has been run by nothing but Democrats for the last 30 years.

[00:46:14] Education, law and order, laws are legislature are cities. Everything in California is 100% controlled by Democrats. Right. The big problem with that that I see, they all don't believe the same thing. There's a big difference between a progressive leftist and a Democrat.

[00:46:37] And what we are seeing now is that Democrats are pulling back and saying, wait a minute. I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that socialism communism anti American thing.

[00:46:49] Yes, I'm a Democrat, but I can't agree with that anymore. I'm not going along with it anymore just because we go along with party lines no matter what.

[00:46:59] And we're seeing by seeing some of these legislatures in the last couple of days speaking out against leadership saying we can't do that. That's wrong.

[00:47:08] We're not doing right by the people pulling their bills, asking law enforcement for their opinion on bills and for our input and helping make a bad bill a good bill.

[00:47:19] We're seeing that in the last several months because they know that people are tired of it. Californians are tired of it.

[00:47:28] And the only way we're getting out of this is when the Democrats and the Republicans come together to get rid of the complete whack jobs that are on both ends of the spectrum.

[00:47:40] The elite left's progressives that have 100% control of our state, our governor, our lieutenant governor, our attorney general, our secretary of state, the head of both houses.

[00:47:54] Those people quite honestly they've got to go. They are the ones that are threatening people. They are threatening their own party to support the governor's mission with these bills and fighting against, insert the poison pill.

[00:48:09] We have to defeat this Prop 47 fix, even though they know the Prop 47 has to be fixed. And so those people that are destroying this state need to we all need to band together and quite honestly they got to be voted out.

[00:48:24] Two election cycles we can do it. This election cycle in November we can get rid of the ones that refuse to go along with the normal Californian and the next one in 2026 we get rid of the rest of them.

[00:48:35] And I'm not saying replace Democrats with Republicans. I'm saying replace them with normal people that actually have character, integrity and honesty that want to do something right by the people they are representing, not a political ideological agenda.

[00:48:51] All right, so fast forward. Yeah, very well said fast forward three years. Governor Bianco's being sworn in I'm not making any suggestions but you know we know the rumors.

[00:49:02] What is a what is public safety and Bianco's California look like what would be your ideal of like what should happen to bring public safety back to California.

[00:49:13] Yeah, I know we can do it. I know we have to do it and I will tell you this there is a there is a horrible consequence for going too far in one direction. And I got to be honest with you.

[00:49:27] What happened in our in our political system, we have gone way too far towards socialism. And my fear is that we are going because of that pendulum swing that it's going to go way too back too far the other way.

[00:49:42] In 2026 if I was the governor I would ensure that that pendulum did not go past what was healthy for a strong economy for a strong California for for a strong public safety.

[00:49:54] Public safety has been in decline for 30 years, whether you like the street the three strikes law or not it worked and people were actually when you see a consequence from someone else.

[00:50:09] Oh my gosh, that their third strike and they really did go away for 25 years. It stopped people it's like okay to is enough. And when you say to for the normal person to is to but in the criminal world to is like 20.

[00:50:26] It wasn't their second crime it was their 100th crime. It was just this is how they added up to the two bad ones or the three bad ones. So, I know we have to dedicate more to public safety we whether you like it or not California has has experienced a large population growth over the last 40 years and our prison system has shrunk.

[00:50:50] Crime hasn't shrunk criminals don't shrink and there's so much this argument goes back so back and forth so easy and there's so many intricacies in it, but everyone wants to compare ourselves and you play with fear.

[00:51:03] And you say, you know the you make up words like mass incarceration, there's absolutely no such thing. There is no such thing as mass incarceration. We didn't randomly round up random people and throw them in in prisons.

[00:51:15] We had a major crime problem. We had a we had mass crime and we held people accountable so we put them in jail. That's all that was going on.

[00:51:26] People like to say that the United States of America the greatest country in the world in the history of the world has the most people in prison.

[00:51:34] Okay, well who cares. We're also the only free country real truly free country in the entire world. And when you compare us where there's zero crime in the Middle East, there's no theft in the Middle East.

[00:51:47] There's tons of crime in in California. Do you know why there's no theft in the Middle East? Because you get your hand cut off.

[00:51:54] There's a serious consequence for bad behavior in different countries. In the United States, when we take away the punishment I certainly would never advocate for for corporal punishment.

[00:52:07] But when you take away a jail term or a prison term or the loss of freedom as a consequence for your bad behavior, there's no there's no incentive to not do bad behavior.

[00:52:18] And when you and that's really what we've done. There has to be more prisons. We have to completely get rid of all of the bad things with prop 47, all of our homeless issues that we have.

[00:52:30] Stop calling them homeless. They're not homeless. They all had homes they were kicked out of their homes because they're they're addicted to drugs, alcohol and they were causing their families problems and they kicked them out onto the streets.

[00:52:44] They have a drug induced psychosis problem that we seriously need to address. If we would force them into alcohol and drug rehabs to where we could then if they still have that chemical imbalance, then we could moderate that with with the use of psychotropic medications

[00:53:01] and everything else. Then we could truly fix these people. But as long as you just keep saying it's a homeless problem, and just keep dumping money into these nonprofits that are really just extents extensions of political people and their friends that are siphoning money laundering

[00:53:16] tax money into into a nonprofit and calling it. We are right there with you. I know. Thank you. I'm telling you, in that situation where I'm being sworn in, it's not just public safety.

[00:53:31] I truly am a believer that we are the greatest country in the world for a reason. And the last several decades, if not many decades, we've been in decline because we have allowed government, particularly California, New York, and now we're seeing our own federal

[00:53:51] government. We have allowed government to become too big and they control our lives. Talk about what happened today with the government with the governor basically imposing himself on a set of judges who were appointed by him or someone like him to just go along with them

[00:54:10] and say the people, the we the people, the we the Californians no longer have control of government. Government's going to tell us how we do things and when we do things and they're not going to allow us to vote on something.

[00:54:26] There is something dreadfully wrong in our system when a part of government has grown so big and so one sided that we've lost track of what that government is there for. And that government is truly there for people. It's there for us to make it's to facilitate us making our lives better.

[00:54:46] And some of that is jails. Some of that is removing the people that harm us, removing the people that steal from our stores that cause costs to go up and to cause businesses to close. So there's our education system, our education.

[00:55:01] If you look at every metric in California, every metric that would that would say this is the greatest place in the world, we're about last or dead last. And if you look at all the things that if you want to be the best in the world.

[00:55:16] These are the things you wouldn't do or about number one or number two. And we've completely gone opposite of what we should be doing for for our residents for me and for you on how we can better our lives and better our families lives and the rules, the restrictions, the regulations, and now just the complete government control, the weaponization of government.

[00:55:39] That is completely, completely at the direction at the at the guidance suggestion of the governor. And we unfortunately haven't had a good one in a long time. We've had a lot of firsts.

[00:55:58] We haven't had a lot of leaders. And what this, I believe what what California is is absolutely dying for and in dire need of is is a is an honest person with character integrity that isn't going to lie to them.

[00:56:16] That is that is really truly there for them and not a political agenda, not a not a personal. I want to I want to be president agenda. It's someone that actually cares and has integrity that they are that when the person talks they know they can be telling the truth.

[00:56:31] I mean, there is absolutely no way that anyone in this state can turn on the TV, see Governor Newsom, watch him talk. There is no one that believes anything that's coming out of his mouth.

[00:56:42] And it's very unfortunate that we've got to that spot. And I think people are dying for someone like them that they can just trust. Well, I want to get we're coming up on the an hour.

[00:56:55] It feels frozen. Again, it always happens right when I open my mouth. Am I back yet?

[00:57:00] Okay, it's always right when I talk. I'm sitting here enjoying Chad talking and something nothing happens. All right, real quick, we have a couple minutes left. I want to get your opinion on the southern border and what's going on there before we wrap up because we're coming up on an hour.

[00:57:17] Okay, very good. We are being if you're watching the news you're being completely misled and lied to about what's happening at the border. The border is 100% completely wide open. I have been to the border numerous times.

[00:57:29] The the sheriff relationship with the chiefs of the Border Patrol and even the head of the Border Patrol. I have a great relationship with them a great dialogue with them and they tell me the truth.

[00:57:39] I witnessed the truth. Our border is 100% completely open. Every single person that comes across is processed by Border Patrol and allowed into the country at the direction of our president. And there is nothing they can do about it.

[00:57:55] The FBI director has completely told me to my face that they have absolutely no idea how many terrorists are in this country that have come across this open border. They don't know where they are. They don't know who they are and they don't know how many there are, but they know they're there.

[00:58:13] And it is a matter of time before we have a terrorist event on our soil that our federal government cannot protect us from because of our open border. Drugs are being brought across the border in droves that there are drugs flooding our streets like we could never have imagined in a law enforcement world.

[00:58:31] And we keep getting played on our emotions by the media and by our government government officials saying that these people are coming here to better their lives. And they're these family units. There's no family units coming across the border.

[00:58:44] When the news goes out there and shows a newscast, they always show a kid and a woman. That doesn't happen. It's like how they either pulled that from old footage or they're just cherry picking for days and days waiting for that perfect shot.

[00:58:58] Because these are middle aged men, young and middle aged men from all different countries from China, from Pakistan, from all of the stands. Every country that has a stand at the end, that's where these people are coming from.

[00:59:14] Russia, China, North and South Africa very rarely are people from Mexico or Southern America other than Venezuela and those types of things coming across. It's people that are coming here to do us harm or coming to benefit from a free society.

[00:59:34] And we're seeing it with the rising crime, these homicides that have happened where these women were raped and murdered by illegal immigrants. Our border is our number one threat and concern right now.

[00:59:46] And everyone needs to absolutely realize that with a stroke of a pen, our president opened the border and with a stroke of a pen, he could close it and they choose not to.

[01:00:00] And it, the, you have to realize it's common sense now. If it doesn't make sense, it has to be on purpose. This is a purposeful opening of the border to allow all of these people in.

[01:00:15] And it's seriously is our number one concern for crime, for drugs, for human trafficking and for terrorism. And in the law enforcement world we are very concerned about it.

[01:00:31] Well, I know we're coming up on the hour I don't want to take up too much of your time. This was an amazing episode. I feel like we could talk for probably another two hours.

[01:00:42] And who knows, maybe we can have you on again when you do make a big announcement about something. And we can talk then but open invitation if you ever want to come back chat this was an incredible conversation.

[01:00:54] Thank you for everything you do and speaking up to I think your following shows people appreciate your honesty.

[01:01:02] You being open and speaking your mind. So thank you for coming on and doing what you're doing and not being afraid to speak your mind in California, which is a rare thing a lot of people need to do more of it so where can people find you more of Camille has a question.

[01:01:18] I'm here. I have a comment and a question that's actually off topic but a few weeks ago you posted you celebrated your 24th anniversary so happy anniversary. Thank you for your fantastic. Any quick happy marriage advice. As a man. I know my wife is always right.

[01:01:42] It a high there truly is something to the happy wife happy life. And we have a great relationship we, we have great communication.

[01:01:53] I think I probably learned a great lesson from my dad and they you just you just submit and give in, and some things aren't worth fighting over. And you just move on and you make each other happy and and it all works out in the end. All right.

[01:02:13] She's standing right off camera. She's standing off camera staring at you isn't she. Yeah, she's making sure you said the right thing. Yeah so as I was saying where can people go find you and follow you to get more of your insights like tonight.

[01:02:31] Well, my social media I have Facebook page that's Sheriff Chad Bianco.

[01:02:37] Sheriff Bianco is my Instagram page. I really we, I do everything I can to to answer any questions posed to me or comments. I usually see most of them. I do have to admit when things happen like this last video that happened.

[01:02:54] It's absolutely impossible for me to see the questions to request and those types of things. But I will say one thing that I learned about this last video is people are dying for the truth.

[01:03:08] They're dying to hear something that is new and honest and open. And the reaction that I got from the politicians that I know already don't like me. It's only going to get better from here on out.

[01:03:27] It's one of those. Oh, you didn't like that one will hold my beer because you're certainly going to not like the rest of them. And all I'm going to do I've decided that the platform that I have all of this is concerning public safety and I'm going to take it upon myself

[01:03:47] because the news media won't do it. I'm going to inform the public of what's happening in Sacramento, and we're going to get this change so I'm going to be very vocal. I'm going to be very into politics into right and wrong not DNR.

[01:04:01] It's going to be what's right and wrong and what's best for California. And the vast majority of that will be on Facebook and Instagram. Great. I encourage everyone to go follow and hear more of your insights, good insight.

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