Ep. 250 - Do We Need Another Recall?

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[00:00:27] What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California Underground Podcast.

[00:00:31] I'm your host Phil and as always with me is my trusty co-host, the best ambassador researcher in the West.

[00:00:37] Camille, are you over jet lag yet?

[00:00:40] I'm over jet lag. It's been a week.

[00:00:44] We can half-one-ever.

[00:00:45] Yeah. I think I'm finally back to normal.

[00:00:49] I feel like I'm finally back to myself.

[00:00:51] Last week was brutal. There were days that I was just like,

[00:00:55] fall asleep in my desk where I'm just like, I can't do this work anymore.

[00:00:58] This is too much.

[00:00:59] So good to be back on Pacific Standard Time after being over in Europe.

[00:01:05] But today we're going to be talking about because it just got the green light from the Secretary of State

[00:01:09] to start gathering signatures.

[00:01:12] The effort, the second effort to recall Governor Gavin Newsom.

[00:01:17] We're not living Groundhog Day.

[00:01:18] This is not old news.

[00:01:20] That has been rehashed.

[00:01:21] This is actually happening.

[00:01:23] This signature gathering process has been greenlit to start.

[00:01:26] I think it's something like one, let's just say 1.2 million signatures need to be submitted

[00:01:31] by September 3rd.

[00:01:32] So a way we go.

[00:01:35] And we've kind of discussed this back and forth about it

[00:01:38] and I'd as followers on Instagram, like with their thoughts about the recall or a second recall was.

[00:01:45] There's a lot of people who said it's a waste of time and resources, especially in a year where

[00:01:50] it's a presidential election.

[00:01:53] Some people are like, no, we absolutely need to do it.

[00:01:55] You deserve to be recalled.

[00:01:57] So the point of today's episode, even though the title, when you read it, it kind of sounds

[00:02:03] it could be taken in a couple different ways.

[00:02:05] It could be saying, do we need a recall?

[00:02:09] Do we need a second recall?

[00:02:10] Like asking a question.

[00:02:13] Kind of, could maybe it start cascading where it's like, nah, do we really need a second recall?

[00:02:17] Like are we critiquing it?

[00:02:19] But the point of today's episode is to kind of answer that question.

[00:02:24] Does there need to be a second recall?

[00:02:26] Like does Gavin Newsom deserve to be recalled again in terms of where California is?

[00:02:33] Now I know a lot of listeners right off the back are going to be like, yep, absolutely he needs to be recalled.

[00:02:37] But I think we're going to examine more since his recall.

[00:02:43] We're going to look at stuff since then, the promises he's made.

[00:02:46] And see where we're at as things have things gotten worse or better.

[00:02:50] Has he done sort of the same plateaued?

[00:02:52] Any thoughts before we hop into any discussion?

[00:02:57] No, I'll let you lead this.

[00:02:59] I know you kind of have a timeline tonight.

[00:03:02] Time frame.

[00:03:03] So you lead it all to like documents.

[00:03:05] Okay.

[00:03:07] All right, then let's get started.

[00:03:08] We pulled up, or you pulled up, I should say,

[00:03:11] his last state of the state, because correct me if I'm wrong there was no state of the state last year.

[00:03:16] He didn't give them last year.

[00:03:17] Right.

[00:03:18] And I don't know if that's said not.

[00:03:19] I didn't look into that.

[00:03:21] It's just like every couple of times I looked at state of the state 2023 it popped up 2022.

[00:03:26] So I couldn't find whether he gave one last year or not.

[00:03:29] So we're looking at 2022, which works because it's right after right 2021 is when he got recalled or

[00:03:37] they had the recall election is trying to.

[00:03:39] It was in September of 21 that he won the recall if you will.

[00:03:44] And then so it was like six months later in March that he gave the state of the state address.

[00:03:51] Then he, right.

[00:03:53] I guess so he obviously won reelection in 2022 and he did do a little speech like I guess an

[00:04:01] acceptance speech of sorts in 23.

[00:04:05] So maybe that counts as a state of the state?

[00:04:07] Yeah, that's probably what they thought was like he gave his state of the state when he gave his

[00:04:12] biggest acceptance speech.

[00:04:13] Like he marched down that.

[00:04:15] It was like trying to speak Spanish.

[00:04:17] Yeah, that's right and she.

[00:04:19] And he was like, look at how good she is.

[00:04:20] Yeah, I mean, I'm learning Spanish so I don't want to judge but it came off really

[00:04:24] pretty badly on her part.

[00:04:26] It's not like like the whitest person possible trying to speak Spanish.

[00:04:30] But yeah, so 2020 was the last time he gave a state of state where just came in out of COVID.

[00:04:35] I think the state of emergency was over in March of that year.

[00:04:38] So this was around the time he filing relinquish just state of the emergency bars.

[00:04:44] All the COVID stuff started to drift away and it looked like we were kind of heading back on.

[00:04:49] Yeah, we're going back.

[00:04:50] I think all of us for life you were still in a state of emergency but.

[00:04:55] Isn't that insane?

[00:04:57] Right?

[00:04:57] Like a lot of people, I don't think real.

[00:05:00] Maybe they don't remember because they want to block it out.

[00:05:03] But yes, the state of emergency didn't end in California until 2022.

[00:05:08] Two years later after COVID started.

[00:05:10] That's how long they held on to it.

[00:05:12] Even though there was no more restrictions, no one was wearing masks anymore like it was all over.

[00:05:15] There was still a state of emergency going on in 2020.

[00:05:18] So we have some highlights from a state of the state address.

[00:05:20] What we're going to do is we're going to take some of that stuff he said.

[00:05:23] We're not going to watch him or Camille's benefit.

[00:05:26] We're not going to stay here and watch him again.

[00:05:27] So we're going to I got the transcript.

[00:05:29] We're going to look at it.

[00:05:30] We're going to pull some things from it that I highlighted.

[00:05:33] And then we're going to discuss like where is California at this point?

[00:05:37] So that way we can answer the question like,

[00:05:40] does he deserve?

[00:05:40] Do we really need a second recall?

[00:05:42] And also for just to kind of frame it,

[00:05:45] he's termed out in 26 right?

[00:05:50] So maybe we should start right there.

[00:05:52] I think that's a good place to start because a lot of people I think have missed

[00:05:55] conceptions of what a recall does.

[00:05:58] And this is a good way to kind of introduce what is a recall in California.

[00:06:02] So if you don't remember what a recall is or you're kind of confused on

[00:06:07] what the purpose of it is, when you recall the governor first you have a vote.

[00:06:12] So first they have to collect all the signatures and then they have an election.

[00:06:16] And all these people jump in if you remember back in 2021,

[00:06:20] it was a melee of people all running.

[00:06:24] A lot of people's great names that we know who were all of a sudden jumping in the race

[00:06:29] and they were all wanted to replace Newsom.

[00:06:32] The procedure is you have a recall election and there's two questions.

[00:06:38] The first question is, does do you think governor Newsom deserves to be recalled?

[00:06:44] If the yes vote wins, there's a second question.

[00:06:48] And the second question is, if so, who would you like to replace it?

[00:06:53] So that's why we have like 20 candidates.

[00:06:56] And I think it's like you have to get more than like 20% or something

[00:07:00] to actually, or is it just the top vote governor that actually gets it?

[00:07:03] It's a top vote governor.

[00:07:04] So it has to be yes, it has to be 50% plus one vote

[00:07:09] for and then top person most votes wins.

[00:07:16] So hypothetically, in the last election, Newsom didn't get recalled because

[00:07:22] majority of people, a large majority of people voted no, he does not deserve to be recalled.

[00:07:27] So that's it. That's the end of the recall election.

[00:07:30] It doesn't, nobody goes on to the second question.

[00:07:32] Hypocetically, if there was a yes vote and that one,

[00:07:37] we would have Larry Elder who was the top vote governor in that recall election.

[00:07:42] He got the most votes. So he would have become the next governor.

[00:07:46] But only for a short time because we were re-electing that the elections he's

[00:07:52] started again in 20, so it would have been like about a year-ish

[00:07:57] that he would have been and then obviously from there he could have chosen to run again.

[00:08:01] Yeah, Newsom could have just ran it down, just become governor.

[00:08:05] He, we didn't successfully recall him.

[00:08:08] We were able to successfully get the recall, but he still won the special election

[00:08:13] and then he was re-elected the following year.

[00:08:17] And then I'm laughing because you and I were together in person like I'm not the go,

[00:08:21] I think what we started reminiscing about this the recall and all the candidates

[00:08:27] and then it was like two days later where they're like the announcers like

[00:08:31] they're trying to do another recall.

[00:08:33] Yep, here we go again but they they have qualified it and they now have to go start getting

[00:08:38] signatures. That will be that's the tough slog. Well actually the tough slog is actually getting

[00:08:42] enough people to vote yes. And I imagine we won't have another recall until next year anyway which

[00:08:49] actually gets some more time because it's 2026. Well yeah, it'd be like a year and change

[00:08:55] that we'd probably get a new governor. But yeah so that was the craziness to recall.

[00:08:59] Because I know with the 2021 recall they gave additional time due to things being shut down

[00:09:05] in the whole student emergency. I think they gave an additional four months to collect signatures.

[00:09:12] And I forget what the exact timeline was for that I had looked at recently but I don't remember now.

[00:09:18] So they wouldn't be giving that additional time so they only have do you know how many months

[00:09:24] to collect signatures? April, May, June, July, August, five months, five full months because

[00:09:31] it's September 3rd they need to submit signatures by. Okay but then they don't do the

[00:09:38] election quite that and then they set news and I think so selects the election date.

[00:09:44] So I think it has to be within 90 days or something they have to have the recall

[00:09:50] and feel like yeah it has to be quick. Like it can't be dragged out like oh the recall will be

[00:09:56] in next year in November. Like now I have to like be relatively quick because I remember

[00:10:01] was a mad dash and it was like as soon as they got the signatures which was around

[00:10:06] summertime. It's funny how many people waited until they got the signatures and then they all

[00:10:11] jumped in like Larry Elder so yeah we'll see what happens. Re calls bring out

[00:10:20] some of the weirdest politicians you'll find because everybody wants to throw their hat in the

[00:10:25] ring and everybody can run on the recall ballot. That's another one so if you're interested

[00:10:30] that's another topic so if nothing else if a recall does actually get on the ballot

[00:10:35] we'll have plenty of content and people to look at. And the last minute just sorry before we

[00:10:41] divid this I think it cost the state $200 million dollars for the last recall which is just

[00:10:46] it's another important factor to look at. Yeah but a lot of people will say we've spent so much

[00:10:51] money on other frivolous things. That $200 million seems like a drop in the bucket compared to

[00:10:56] whatever else we're spending on. Right so that's that's the process so if people now people can

[00:11:03] kind of think about what is a recall if they didn't know what a recall actually does I think

[00:11:08] because a lot of people got confused and were like wait didn't we recall them already because

[00:11:13] we got the signatures and it was on the ballot but I think they got confused like maybe you

[00:11:17] actually had to show up and vote whether you want them recalled or not. So that's our that's our

[00:11:23] PSA about it if it does happen we'll obviously bring it up more about what a recall is anyway so

[00:11:31] 2022 paint the picture it's March it's two years later after COVID

[00:11:36] Gavin Newsom has just defeated his recall he's in all his glory he's ready to go

[00:11:44] and he's also facing election that year which he then wins. So I'll start with some highlights

[00:11:50] the first off he says tonight is also a moment for us to reflect on what it means to live in a

[00:11:56] society where elected leaders still settle our disagreements by and large with civility and compromise

[00:12:01] which I find funny coming from Gavin Newsom because he does make a habit out of bullying people on

[00:12:08] Twitter and making tonight comments on Twitter about everybody he doesn't agree with so I don't know

[00:12:13] how much civility and compromise he actually believes in. First topic he talked about in January

[00:12:21] we proposed to pause the gas tax increase now it's clear we must go further that's why working

[00:12:28] with the legislative leadership I'll be submitting a proposal to put money back in the pockets of

[00:12:33] Californians to address rising gas prices. Who at a time? I'm sorry who proposed this was

[00:12:42] I don't think it was the Democrats that proposed to pause like a stacks increase

[00:12:47] I feel like the Republicans were like fighting hard for Democrats didn't want to listen to us

[00:12:53] now I think that was definitely a Republican thing and I think they were definitely pushing for

[00:12:58] that it never happened the gas tax has gone up every year since then so in terms of we proposed

[00:13:05] anything I don't know what he's talking about let's see as a mouse in his pocket or something

[00:13:09] because Democrats were not on board with a gas tax or pausing the gas tax increase

[00:13:16] right I never happened. We didn't feel that year. I think it was a real deal. Yeah because I think

[00:13:23] there's what 50 cents or something they were like hey if we pause it we save people 50 cents

[00:13:29] at that time which is a lot of money when you think about it I paid we have this in our notes

[00:13:35] I paid for 99 yesterday at the at the pump for gas at Costco mind you not like an expensive place

[00:13:45] at Costco I paid for 99 you had in your notes how much did you paid recently well I my husband

[00:13:52] tells me my car coming but I looked at all my local gas stations like seven immediately around me

[00:13:57] and every single one was five thirty or more per gallon as of last night that's insane so we're already

[00:14:05] topping off at five dollars at minimum we're already topping off at five dollars and I don't even

[00:14:12] live here like I'm kind of far from the freeway you have like they can easily like this is the only

[00:14:20] gas station for miles or this is the convenient one like I where I live it's considered a bedroom

[00:14:25] community like people don't come here for tourist stuff I guess the next library but like nobody

[00:14:30] really comes here you know it's just people who live here so it's not like they're like oh we'll

[00:14:34] get out like you know everyone this is the community gas station we could just gallon prices it's not

[00:14:39] you go down and say that's why we're working on the legislative leadership I'll be submitting a

[00:14:42] proposal to put money back in the pockets of California and so address resident gas prices

[00:14:47] but at a time when we've been heating and burning up one thing we cannot do is repeat the mistakes

[00:14:53] of the past by embracing polluters drilling even more oil which only leads even more extreme

[00:14:58] whether more extreme drought and more wildfire so there's a graph that I think people have seen

[00:15:08] let me see if I can pull it up if you want to talk amongst yourselves why I pull up a screenshot of

[00:15:12] it so this is a graph that a lot of people have seen before this is basically how much the state adds

[00:15:22] on to other price of our gallons so it's $130 the gallon this is 2022 mind you sure it's only

[00:15:28] gone up since then well yeah it's every July first and we have another little increase it always

[00:15:35] goes up a little bit and then you'd send $12.00 state and local sales tax 25 cents for cap and trade

[00:15:43] 22 cents for low carbon fuel standard 18 cents federal excise 51 cents state excise tax so a lot

[00:15:51] of that is state taxes now if you remember his big solution to solving this problem is was he wanted

[00:16:04] to wait for he wanted to blame the oil companies and say that it's the oil companies who are

[00:16:11] gouging Californians intentionally right because they don't want to gouge any other people in any

[00:16:17] other states so in Florida they don't want to gouge people in Florida in Texas they don't want to

[00:16:23] gouge people in Texas any other Midwestern state Nebraska they don't want to gouge people there but

[00:16:29] they have a vendetta against California and they've decided we're going to gouge prices specifically

[00:16:37] here by so much more so this was funny enough this is actually a year ago this article March 27th 2023

[00:16:47] in the LA Times uh California law makers approved Newsom's oil bill here's what you need to know

[00:16:54] after months of deliberation the final bill does not cap oil refinery profits for penalize the

[00:17:00] industry as Newsom had intended when he accused companies of intentionally driving up gas prices

[00:17:04] to boost revenue instead the bill SBX12 gives the California Energy Commission the power to set

[00:17:12] up set a cap and impose penalties through a regulatory process if it decides that oil companies are

[00:17:18] making excessive profits and that penalty will not result in higher prices for consumers sounds like

[00:17:24] it does anything or doesn't just sound like it's more regulatory oversight that won't do anything

[00:17:30] yeah it's still stuck all the time watching because this big plan was he wanted to do this windfall

[00:17:36] tax profit we've talked about this before it doesn't windfall tax actually do anything or windfall

[00:17:40] profit tax it showed in the 70s they tried to do that which in the Carter that didn't work most of

[00:17:46] them it doesn't ever really work it doesn't doesn't do what it's intended to do it sounds nice it's

[00:17:52] a buzz word but it doesn't actually do what it needs to do and this bill didn't even include it anyway

[00:17:59] the legislation focuses on transparency including requiring the industry to provide more information

[00:18:04] about maintenance and pricing decisions in order to allow state officials to better understand

[00:18:08] the market and deter companies from gouging consumers quote even when we are not experiencing a spike

[00:18:15] we pay higher prices than in other states even when we account for our taxes and environmental

[00:18:19] policies said assembly member juck wee urwin of thousand oaks you know that califian's pay as

[00:18:25] much as 260 more per gallon the residents of other states at one point last year this is unacceptable

[00:18:31] well if we look back at that graph accounting for the amount of taxes and regulatory fees that

[00:18:36] actually go into a gallon of gas I think the bill is not facing the right by it should be looking

[00:18:43] inwards rather than outwards as to why gas is so expensive here let's see let me

[00:18:51] profit in placing additional requirements on our findings could drive companies out of the state

[00:18:55] reducing supply and increasing fuel costs the oil groups said the industry at urge the state

[00:19:00] to take more time to understand the bill's potential effects on supplies so instead of a cap approved

[00:19:07] by lawmakers sp x12 allows the energy commission to establish a maximum gross gasoline refining

[00:19:13] and a penalty for exceeding that margin if they do necessary before setting a cap and penalty

[00:19:18] commission must find the benefits of doing so outweigh potential costs to consumers so

[00:19:24] so we've put it here it's been year exactly a year has everything happened I have not seen

[00:19:33] a report I've not seen gas prices go down I don't think I've seen oil companies shirk away from like

[00:19:39] this I you know this idea of they're actually gouging them I mean yeah today we're all paying over

[00:19:45] five dollars a gallon for gas so I've definitely not seen gas prices go down there is a little bit more

[00:19:53] than I want to say California's average gas price is not the only not only the highest in the nation

[00:19:58] this is from California globe the article that you've sent over it is even higher than Hawaii's

[00:20:03] gas price per gallon which to me isn't saying because Hawaii's supposed to have the most expensive

[00:20:08] gas because it's an island and there's no refinery like it's literally an island you have to

[00:20:13] bring oil to and gas to I know they say California is like figuratively a island when it comes

[00:20:20] to refineries and gas but Hawaii is quite literally an island and it's cheaper to buy gas in Hawaii

[00:20:25] in October 22nd senator Shannon Grove of Baker's Field Boiled Down the actual pro-an

[00:20:30] Californian's highest in the nation gas prices and gas taxes any letter to the governor highlights

[00:20:35] Californians isely markets which are just said it's kind of like an island and inability to

[00:20:40] access additional fuel that meets California's stringent standards against the environmental

[00:20:45] policies the most hostile regulatory requirements the most aggressive environmental policies the

[00:20:50] extraordinary expense of cap and tree the highest tax per dollar gasoline and possible standards

[00:20:55] that are not found in any other state in the nation and limited supply so in 90 although I thought

[00:21:02] this was really interesting because we've talked about this in terms of how many refineries they're

[00:21:07] actually potentially are in California and how much they've shut down and we've made this argument

[00:21:13] that if you want to if you're all about protecting workers rights and reducing carbon and the environment

[00:21:21] you should be drilling for oil here we need oil oil something we definitely need we need

[00:21:26] through a fine oil so why don't we drill oil here ensure that workers have protections they get a

[00:21:36] good wage they have all that and the American employment law system protecting them also it

[00:21:42] travels afar list is since it's not coming from Ecuador or Latin America or any other country far

[00:21:47] thousands of miles away accomplishes two goals protectors workers rights creates great middle class

[00:21:53] jobs and upper middle class jobs and it reduces carbon so I don't know why don't we think about that

[00:22:02] way not think no for do away it's not the California way to actually think about let's produce more

[00:22:07] oil in 1982 California had 43 operational oil refineries any population nearly 25 million

[00:22:16] today we have only 11 operational oil refineries and a population nearly 40 million

[00:22:23] and those 40 million residents are driving more cars to have more houses and apartments working

[00:22:27] more commercial buildings shopping in more stores and traveling more across the state all of which

[00:22:32] which takes more traditional energy so there you have it um so to answer the question did he tackle the

[00:22:43] issue of rising gas prices based on his state of the speech in 2012 I would give a lot of no

[00:22:50] rhinos down because at the end I'm probably gonna make a comment about all the things he caught on

[00:22:55] this ginger deliver wrong yeah it doesn't sound like he fixed gas prices two years I know he sent

[00:23:00] out he sent out money but that was two years ago yeah was that what the visa gift card things were

[00:23:07] think so they were like just prepaid debit cards which I don't think people were specifically

[00:23:13] using for gas um credit and it was I think up to 400 for vehicle up to two vehicles per household

[00:23:24] we didn't get any I think we got to or we got one yes our first we were like going through stuff

[00:23:34] and then like we found something and I found something I look at my wife and I go you didn't

[00:23:39] activate this card and she's like no I thought it was like junk mail I thought it was like one of

[00:23:42] those junk about credit cards I'm like no this is like an actual card and she called up the number

[00:23:48] and they're like this is preloaded with a hundred dollars it's now active and she's like oh

[00:23:54] got a hundred bucks it's like no it's our money anyway so

[00:23:59] this was interesting he brought up in the state of the speech he kind of did this like

[00:24:05] loosely based like drilling even more oil which only leads to even more

[00:24:08] trim weather more trim drought more wildfire he kind of tied drilling for oil

[00:24:15] to the wildfires that we've experienced um I was trying to see if there's I mean of course there's

[00:24:21] plenty of things to say like yeah oils bad and refining for oil is bad and for polluters

[00:24:27] I've never seen any direct correlation between the wildfires happening

[00:24:31] and drilling for oil or how much we drill for oil here in California it seems like those are not

[00:24:37] really like directly connected it's not like the drilling starts the wildfires there was lots of

[00:24:44] fires whenever one of the really big fires PG need to credit this obviously not the word fault

[00:24:51] the admitted quality yeah is there responsibility and and obviously that's not all the fires

[00:24:58] but um I do know that California is really bad about cleaning up the brush

[00:25:06] done you know ignite easily during a hot summer and we don't store water that we get during

[00:25:11] our very rainy years and so we don't have available water so yeah I don't know how you can

[00:25:18] blame that on oil I mean it's a 10-inch hole I mean it's a tenuous argument you can say well

[00:25:25] drilling for oil might cause carbon and global warming which is still a whole debatable issue anyway

[00:25:32] but to directly cause and say like oh oil is why we have wildfires in California it's real

[00:25:38] tenuous stretch to say that they're connected somehow they're not I mean if you're arguing as well

[00:25:46] we got to get rid of oil and you have to pay six dollars at the pump because we have wildfires

[00:25:51] and it's kind of like why don't or you can just do your job and like you know protect forests

[00:25:56] and actually do forest management and have plenty of water that's a novel idea too

[00:26:00] and not just blame it on oil because we all know oil big oil is always the big bogeyman for

[00:26:06] democrats they've been going after big oil since I even started following politics it's always

[00:26:11] the big bogeyman his big oil but his solution because we don't want to have people use gasoline

[00:26:18] or oil anymore in the cars is obviously electric vehicles he goes on to say underscoring the

[00:26:26] importance of excelling california's leadership in clean technology and I apologize to everyone

[00:26:30] out there I don't do a good Gavin Newsom impersonation so I'm just not even going to drive

[00:26:35] it's too raspy my voice would hurt this is not a not just a national security environmental justice

[00:26:41] imperative clean energy is this generation's greatest economic opportunity a perfect example

[00:26:48] are dominance in electric vehicle sales and manufacturing it was california's policies that created

[00:26:53] this market now we have the opportunity to extend this leadership to secure a critical component

[00:26:58] of the supply chain for batteries like tapping the one world's largest lithium reserves right here

[00:27:03] in california so right there there's always this concern about actually mining lithium it's like

[00:27:08] messy you have to use shocker you have to use trucks and equipment that are powered by oil to actually

[00:27:16] get the lithium out to create the batteries creates a lot of carbon so it's not an absolute clean

[00:27:24] operation to go get that lithium our nation leading climate investments 38 billion will ensure

[00:27:31] that other innovations will surely follow not by recreating the 20th century by extracting more oil

[00:27:37] but by extracting new ideas drilling for new talent by running our economy in a carbon free engine

[00:27:47] it's a cute use of words right there

[00:27:53] his speech writer must have thought they were really like clever when they did that they were like

[00:27:57] I got this is gonna be good i'm gonna use like oil terms to talk about what we need to be doing um

[00:28:03] okay electric vehicles but this really isn't like new sums fault per se but since then do you think

[00:28:11] EVs have gotten more popular or less popular well i think they're a little more popular

[00:28:17] i think tesla people want tesla's i think tip people want tesla's just for the tesla name

[00:28:23] i swear if it was gas powered they'd still be getting one but the thing is like there's a tons

[00:28:30] around me um i don't know about i don't you know i don't go anywhere so i don't know about it

[00:28:36] there's tons of tesla's all the road around me people are still completing about their inability

[00:28:40] to charge them yeah so this year i think EVs the news is that EVs have hit a wall

[00:28:48] EV sales have hit a wall yes people want EVs they think maybe people think it's a good idea

[00:28:54] but i think the reality of implementing it is much harder than they were expecting and i think a

[00:28:59] lot of places who thought and this is something else Gavin Newsom proposed is that all cars in

[00:29:04] california are going to have to be electric by 2030 so or what six years away from that um and we

[00:29:11] have quite a long way to go before everyone has an EV now that's not to say you can't like go buy a car

[00:29:18] it just car sales perhaps right they don't have to be EVs by 2030 it's just you won't be able to buy

[00:29:26] a gas powered car in california that's what they're trying to do i don't think they're gonna

[00:29:31] accomplish that goal i think that's probably gonna be pushed off like five years every time we get

[00:29:35] close it's gonna get pushed off five years because it's just kind of i just don't think it's not actually

[00:29:40] a cool observation about that so we you know went out of country a couple weeks ago we we

[00:29:47] and we drove it's easier six of us and all of our luggage is easier for us to drive to the airport

[00:29:52] in park and so we paid for like this one structure and it's three or four levels and the bottom

[00:29:59] level is primarily EV parking with the chargers and it was mostly empty i have i just took my

[00:30:08] yard to or all the dawns to put down Monday and there's they had redone the parking lot recently

[00:30:14] with a bunch of EV you know charging spots they're usually all empty and it's so frustrating

[00:30:20] because i need a spot like right from the dentist no there's it's all EV parking and like i'm seeing

[00:30:26] implemented more and more and there there's often like let's say six seven eight spots and they'll

[00:30:31] be maybe one part in them so i understand yeah we notice that a lot too but but you're right like

[00:30:40] that means that the demand is not there yet right so this is from Forbes magazine uh this came how

[00:30:49] oh march 24th couple days ago uh in a sobering revelation from a Boston consulting group study

[00:30:56] the vast majority of potential EV adopters want three things to happen but for those seriously

[00:31:00] consider switching from gas to EV they want under 20 minute charging times which has been a big concern

[00:31:06] a 350 mile plus driving range and a sticker price of under $50,000 it's only one EV the Hyundai i

[00:31:13] i knock i know i i don't even i say that long range meeting those criteria as the industry has

[00:31:20] a long way to go so says in the us EV sales have increased since 2016 in 2017 they were around 65

[00:31:26] thousand EV sold and by 2022 that number had ballooned out to over 800,000 sales following an

[00:31:33] upper trend EV sales increased 51% the first half of 20 still those gains represented decline

[00:31:38] from the 71% growth in the same period last year in addition Tesla the market leader with over half

[00:31:43] of all EV sales recently revealed this lowest quarterly profitability in previous two years was

[00:31:48] caused a $138 billion decline in a value of the company shares meanwhile in Britain last year

[00:31:55] prime minister rishi soon alchemy the major you turn on the country's planned van of gas

[00:32:00] sling vehicles to be announced that the government was post-planned its introduction from 2030

[00:32:04] to 2030 uh another company to maximize profitability general motor says announced it's pulling back

[00:32:09] on its plans to build 400,000 EVs by mid 2024 two years ago the company said it'll phase out

[00:32:15] internal combustion by 20 plants to collaborate with haunted to develop a range of more recently

[00:32:20] priced EVs have also been scrapped executive is at four so they don't currently require the

[00:32:24] production capacity to fill demand thus they are post-rolling billions of dollars in EV investment

[00:32:30] finally goes on to say there's also strong evidence that shows most individuals who buy electric

[00:32:34] also own an internal combustion engine powered vehicle quote they are not switching to electric

[00:32:40] vehicles from their gas powered vehicles most electric vehicles are bought as quote compliments

[00:32:45] not as replacements according to economic economists they're merely increasing the overall

[00:32:51] quantity of automobiles they have on hand so this idea we're leading the way and we're plowing

[00:32:59] forward with EVs and it's kind of slowing down at this point i think more people are

[00:33:08] seeing that the infrastructure is not there like you say it's just it's not convenient we don't know

[00:33:12] like good people it's hard to find charging stations unless you're a Tesla i think Tesla

[00:33:17] finds it for you and they'll give you directions but most of the electric vehicle other ones they

[00:33:22] don't have super charging it takes hours it's a long time a lot of people live in apartments so like

[00:33:27] already charge it they have charge like so uh yeah this idea of like electric vehicles are

[00:33:33] going to be paving the way for California and then we're gonna be ready in 2030 to do that i don't

[00:33:38] think that's gonna be a reality i think that's probably gonna fall short really thoughts three it's

[00:33:43] quite a pushback like you said is it works not ready for yeah i think it's just it's it's it's a lofty

[00:33:50] goal i just don't think it's gonna happen i like that article said there's a lot of people who still

[00:33:54] have a gas powered car for plenty of other reasons probably reliability long distance trips they know

[00:34:01] they can do it but maybe they have a little electric car that they can kind of just hop around town

[00:34:06] which makes more sense you could have all of us put a forward to like buy a new Tesla think about now

[00:34:10] like for us we have a few teenagers and we would if our kids went a by far or we want to help them buy

[00:34:17] a car or whatever like you imagine like my husband and i like we each replace our car with an electric

[00:34:22] car right now we need to spend or somehow our kids need to afford to which okay different subjects

[00:34:30] that we will go off on but like fast food places are even hiring kids anymore because they're like

[00:34:34] i'm gonna take a 16 year old 20 bucks an hour and so how are my kids ever supposed to buy a car a

[00:34:39] little loan of 58,000 100,000 dollar electric car anyway yeah before to live like this it's not

[00:34:48] getting easier in California that's for sure it's game much harder uh his next topic you want to turn

[00:34:55] to is the economy because i say when it comes to the economy California is unmatched we dominate and

[00:35:02] research innovation entrepreneurialism venture capital and remain the world's fifth largest economy

[00:35:08] our GDP growth is a well i think we're gonna talk about that our GDP growth is consistently outpaced

[00:35:14] not only the rest of the country but most other large western democracies in December alone

[00:35:20] 25% of americans jobs would be right here in California a million new jobs in the last 12 months

[00:35:26] more new business starts during the worst of the pandemic in Texas and Florida combined

[00:35:33] comment about the this this statistic that they love to use with business applications

[00:35:41] casual i was watching some video on youtube like walk don't run

[00:35:45] he made a good point which is they they like to say oh most business applications and businesses

[00:35:51] it's something like 70% of those applications first off we don't even know like what they are

[00:35:57] we don't know they're not gonna necessarily be big businesses many of them are just like LLCs

[00:36:04] so here in California if you want to be a freelancer you have to be an LLC so that contributes to how

[00:36:10] many you start it's just you you're not creating jobs and we don't know whether these businesses are

[00:36:16] created actually creating a lot of jobs like they can just be someone's sole business but

[00:36:21] California just got some great news and by great i mean absolutely horrible about the economy and

[00:36:27] where they're at the ap wrote California's unemployment rate is the highest in the nation

[00:36:34] slower job growth is to blame so what what they should be this is March 22nd 22

[00:36:42] i wish i had a sound board like the price is right that like horn that goes bump bump bump but i don't

[00:36:48] the California's unemployment rate is now the highest in the country reaching 5.3%

[00:36:52] February following new data that revealed job growth in the nation's most popular state was much

[00:36:58] lower last year than previously thought sad California lost a staggering 2.7 million jobs at the

[00:37:06] start of the coronavirus pandemic losses brought on my Gavin Newsom state home order which forced

[00:37:10] many businesses close the state had added more than 3 million jobs since then a remarkable

[00:37:15] streak that averages over 66,000 new jobs her mom's the coin of the state employment development

[00:37:21] but this year while the data initially showed California added 300,000 jobs between September 2022

[00:37:29] and September 2023 the corrected numbers released earlier this month show that the state added

[00:37:35] just 50,000 jobs during that period oh my gosh that is white at difference that is a enormous

[00:37:43] difference um that's just two totally different things yeah that is that's that's quite misleading

[00:37:53] 300,000 and you've only added 50,000 50,000 jobs at as in California in a state of 40 million people

[00:38:00] wow a lot of jobs that's really horrible just as also as an aside whenever you see jobs numbers

[00:38:07] in like the news or so and so created this many jobs wait three months and then go back because

[00:38:15] a lot of these government agencies once they start to get the real numbers in this has been happening

[00:38:20] with the Biden administration like this entire administration this will be like look we created

[00:38:24] this many jobs and then they go back and are like just kidding we only created like you know how many

[00:38:29] millions jobs like it's not that many jobs um always wait a little bit when I release jobs numbers

[00:38:35] in the economy because the hard that has to come in and then they'll fix it yeah I'm still

[00:38:40] we really fast because I don't think we said at the beginning news then we like let me

[00:38:46] sure everyone knows but news them actually postponed his state of the state address this year

[00:38:51] or hasn't done it at all and that's kind of what we're like right this could be our own state

[00:38:57] of state let's let's talk what's really going on but it'll be interesting to see if he even does

[00:39:02] one but you can see why he doesn't want to do one what is he going to talk about? I mean he'll

[00:39:06] fix he'll figure out how to spin it um they'll talk probably about social justice issues to probably

[00:39:11] talk about at California but you know 500 million abortion pills or something like that like

[00:39:17] that's a big thing to do but a prop one pass and now we got billions of dollars to throw it homeless

[00:39:22] non-profits and construction unions um I mean help homeless that's that's what they want to do

[00:39:27] they want to help almost not enrich their nonprofit and union buddies yeah so you're right they

[00:39:33] he this was something we were kind of bad in around like should we do our own stays they speech but

[00:39:37] then we kind of wrapped it into this recall idea uh he's been delaying it and postponing it because

[00:39:42] he wanted to wait until he saw what happened with prop one because he didn't want to do a state of the

[00:39:46] state if prop one failed because that's like his signature proposition or or piece of legislation uh

[00:39:55] I think California's economy is the leading edge of the national economic slowdown said soon

[00:40:01] won son a professor of finance and economics at Loyola Marymount University seven of California's

[00:40:06] 11 job sectors lost jobs in February that's not good

[00:40:12] that's an overwhelming majority of job sectors lost jobs just last month

[00:40:18] the largest decrease was in construction with 9,900 jobs lost or reflection of disruptions from

[00:40:25] a series of strong storms that hit the state in February the job loss would have been much worse

[00:40:30] had it not been for a strong showing among the health care sector led by increases in the jobs

[00:40:35] such as acupuncturists and tie additions according to the state employment development department

[00:40:40] so thank you acupuncturists and dieticians for keeping those jobs numbers

[00:40:44] better than what we expect we owe a debt of gratitude to the acupuncturists and dieticians who are

[00:40:51] keeping our economy up right now uh the economic slowdown has made a sway the state's budget which for

[00:40:56] the second year in a row is now facing a multi-billion dollar deficit we've talked about this 73

[00:41:00] billion dollars there's another article you sent me was it the OC register yes you actually

[00:41:06] out of that one I did okay right it just goes on to talk more about it but they said for example

[00:41:13] it estimated the first half of 2020 through the state gained an average of 32,500 jobs each month

[00:41:20] but in January revised that to an average loss of 400 jobs from up let that sink in that's all

[00:41:29] they well they said they added 32 but then they revised it to negative so what went completely

[00:41:37] in the opposite direction so those jobs they said they added did it actually happen running these

[00:41:43] numbers imagine being that far off to be like yeah we had 32,000 jobs this month and then a month

[00:41:52] later it's like just kidding we lost 400 jobs this month uh recent poll by the public policy

[00:41:57] institute of California found that a jury of Californians think the state has headed the wrong

[00:42:01] direction predict bad economic times with the state of the economy in the next 12 months yeah okay

[00:42:06] so Californians not feeling good about the economy California is the California way

[00:42:14] that was the whole theme of this state of the state he kept saying this is the California way

[00:42:19] so this is the California way uh let's see he goes on to say speaking or not believing people behind

[00:42:25] no state took older steps to protect public health and human life over the last two years

[00:42:30] are lockdowns to stress as they were saved lives true or false that's such a loaded question

[00:42:37] but we i'm sure you can find data that says the lockdowns prevented covid from spreading in certain areas

[00:42:46] did it save lives i mean here we are looking at people to have jobs sorry keep getting

[00:42:51] people have jobs did that save your life people people lost businesses people committed suicide

[00:43:00] mental health got worse homelessness got worse did this really save lives like obviously my answer is

[00:43:09] no this didn't save lives and maybe the technical answer is it saves them lives from covid but when

[00:43:16] you start looking at it from all angles it warmed lives it destroyed just going back i forgot to ask

[00:43:23] you to tally do you think he's done better on the economy kept his promises 2022 if you want to write

[00:43:28] that down no it means it's definitely not worse our mask mandates save lives that's what he said

[00:43:36] um this was in the Chicago sometimes the research shows sorry mandates are just wrong they're wrong

[00:43:43] research shows cdc exaggerate the evidence for mass to flight covid i'm not a person who like and i

[00:43:51] saw people wearing like not a lot of people but while i was drawing like there's people wearing masks

[00:43:55] and i remember somebody hitting on your plane and my initial thought was like really

[00:44:00] i did i went there but then i stopped myself because i thought okay that person believes this mask

[00:44:05] is helping her or maybe preventing her from spreading something and i'm like okay i'm not

[00:44:12] mad about that like she believes she's doing this for good for her or other people whatever fun

[00:44:19] like i'm not i'm not gonna be cool and judge her about that but man i've never been that way either

[00:44:26] i like if i see people out in public with masks on still i'm like yeah i don't really care like as long

[00:44:34] as you're not forcing me to actually do it hurting me but don't tell me that i'm asking

[00:44:41] and that's where that was so ridiculous when they tried to mandate the vaccines and they tried to

[00:44:46] mandate the masks and they tried to mandate you into staying home and they like no no and i will never

[00:44:53] understand anyone who actually looks at the government and thinks oh you need to tell me what to do

[00:44:57] like i i wonder how people even mentally get there like talk about mental health issues

[00:45:02] how do you possibly look at the government people you don't know think oh you absolutely know

[00:45:08] better than me they can't even do math on jobs guys they don't know what's good for you they

[00:45:12] wouldn't even have a mask yeah they're not good at math i don't think you should listen to them

[00:45:18] specifically on this for your personal health so the study was published the study was published by

[00:45:25] Cochrane Library in authority of collection scientific databases analyzed 18 randomized control

[00:45:31] trials that aim to measure the impact of surgical mass or N95 respirators on the transmission

[00:45:36] of respiratory viruses found that wearing a mask in public places probably makes little or no

[00:45:41] difference to the number of infections so there you have it so on his claim that his lockdowns

[00:45:47] and mass mandates save lives did it or did it not okay here's the big one that he talked about

[00:45:55] he says but there's another crisis we're still tackling oh well that's the crisis of homelessness

[00:46:01] which is worsened over the last decade not only here in California but across the nation just a few

[00:46:05] years ago California lacked any comprehensive strategy no accountability no meaningful state

[00:46:11] resources to solve the problem but that's all changed in just three years we not only have a

[00:46:16] comprehensive plan we're also requiring new accountability and providing unprecedented

[00:46:20] investment for cities and counties if you want to go back and listen to our whole podcast on

[00:46:24] Propelon it we go in depth on Propelon with the whole plan for Propelon is so this is two years ago

[00:46:33] got a new sum said two years ago he said they have a comprehensive plan for new accountability

[00:46:39] between those two years I don't think that plan was ever implemented because now we have Propelon

[00:46:45] because this the reason they sold Propelon what's that I have no solace all this okay go ahead

[00:46:53] well this is when he starts talking about care court or maybe he'd be talking about prior to that

[00:46:58] but again this is March of 2022 so this is two years ago and I can't believe March 2022 was two years ago

[00:47:07] so he I don't know if this was when he announced it or first prior but anyway obviously he's talking

[00:47:12] up care for which is like what you're talking about he's about to go into so it was not established

[00:47:19] until October 2023 I get there's a system there's a process in place it takes time it's voted on

[00:47:26] whatever but that was 19 months later October 2023 was only a handful of months ago

[00:47:34] as of January of this year it was only implemented into eight counties we have 58 counties in

[00:47:41] government eight counties out of 58 have care court which all at you taco care court is in a second

[00:47:50] and in that October to January they only had two applicants maybe that's a lot for eight counties

[00:47:59] but how many homeless people do we have and only 220 applicants for this program that took 19

[00:48:08] months to establish baby yeah I actually went to a home it's actually funny I was sitting

[00:48:18] I got the news that prop one passed while I was sitting in a seminar about care court

[00:48:27] with someone with the judge who actually practices care court here in San Diego I think she's the

[00:48:32] only one who does it um they said they had like 58 cases so far in San Diego like that's all

[00:48:40] they have so far it's very early like they just started it's very early we went over the whole thing

[00:48:44] I'm not gonna bore you to death with like what care court is but basically it's like they can

[00:48:48] petition uh it gives them an opportunity to go into to get some rehab get some services get clean

[00:48:55] all that stuff basically kind of grabs people and you know paramet I even learned like paramedics

[00:49:03] and first responders can petition for somebody who could be like does we have to get under a

[00:49:08] roommate a community leader such as a policeman fire mt uh judge attorney etc and so I like I

[00:49:19] could go apply for somebody if like it was one of you know like my sisters or something that they don't

[00:49:25] need it sorry I just use hypothetical examples yeah like I could be I can be someone who could

[00:49:31] go apply and then they look at the case I believe you have to have an extreme mental illness

[00:49:36] such as schizophrenia I think it's extreme mental illness yeah something along those lines

[00:49:41] grave disability which I think also includes substance abuse yes so that's something that the

[00:49:48] legislature has tweaked because before it was grave disability was a whole different set of things

[00:49:56] and now adding substance abuse changes the dynamic of like okay someone's high on math or something

[00:50:03] running around the street screaming about stuff like okay that's a grave disability we can get them

[00:50:07] into care court but you bring up a good point which is it's only you know this is two years ago he's

[00:50:13] been talking about care court at this point we're literally just getting it off the ground not that many

[00:50:18] it's like 50 people in San Diego thousands of people here in San Diego who are homeless so not really

[00:50:25] I don't think it's moving the needle quite yet care court you know what budget was for that I don't

[00:50:31] I should have written a down I probably haven't actually don't remember what the budget was for that

[00:50:39] yeah I don't have the right sign here one thing that stood out to me I was looking at different

[00:50:47] counties there questions you know FAQs about care court and one thing with someone you know

[00:50:54] were the questions like well what about housing and it was like well on an as

[00:51:00] needed an available basis and I'm like okay well what housing would be available for this I don't

[00:51:05] even know I'm often do more research into all that but it's like I think it's an inpatient

[00:51:11] service for I don't remember how many months but whatever the time is they bring the person in they

[00:51:17] try to rehab them and then if there's not housing available I guess they're just released back out

[00:51:22] into you know if someone could take them in worried if not they're just released back out on the

[00:51:27] streets good luck have them about yeah there's no jobs well as we've learned they're not going to

[00:51:34] accounting how many jobs California is adding so there's no jobs there's no jobs just for numbers the

[00:51:39] last department tally of homelessness in California according to Cal matters is 128 percent of

[00:51:46] the nation's homeless population that's up nearly 40 percent from five years ago and this

[00:51:51] article is from 20 so the news some didn't even give care court a fair chance before he started

[00:51:57] pushing prop one and I just yeah care court isn't for our homeless person I get that it's more like

[00:52:02] because every homeless person is not mentally ill every homeless person is not a drug addict as we

[00:52:07] talked in an episode a few weeks ago a lot of people are being driven into homelessness five

[00:52:14] lot of jobs surprise price slow I get that not every homeless person is having this issue but

[00:52:24] I don't think that I don't think it's only like 220 let's just be fair and say there's 300 applicants

[00:52:30] but like it's I don't think that of 180,000 homeless people only 300 of them have mental health issues

[00:52:36] and certainly it hasn't expanded into even all of California there's just eight states for

[00:52:41] eight counties excuse me trying it out right now but so care for your chance okay sorry go ahead

[00:52:47] so do you think he's delivered on his promise to solve homelessness since 2020 you totally froze after

[00:52:52] you said so oh I said um do you think he's saw has he delivered on his promise to solve homelessness since

[00:53:00] 2020 all right no one's going to solve homelessness but has he even come even a little little

[00:53:06] close to fix it no no okay he hasn't made a dent in home okay so okay the last one I want to talk

[00:53:14] about really quickly is he talks about crime and he quotes Bobby Kennedy not RFK Jr. the Bobby

[00:53:23] Kenny OG Bobby Kennedy he says a nation this is Bobby Kennedy's quote which surrenders to crime

[00:53:30] whether by any difference for heavy-handed rep rep repression is a society which has resigned

[00:53:34] itself to failure. Newsom then says our approach is to be neither indifferent to the realities of

[00:53:40] the present day nor revert to heavy-handed policies that have marked the failures of the past we're

[00:53:45] funding local law enforcement and prosecutors to invest in solve more crime bolstering the attorney

[00:53:49] general's office prosecuting organized theft rings and getting illegal guns off the streets

[00:53:55] but we're also investing hundreds of millions in new programs to tackle the real causes of crime

[00:53:59] doubling down proven violence prevention programs that's the California way so real quick

[00:54:06] this is from the public policy institute of California before I go onto the numbers do you think he

[00:54:14] has made a dent in reversing the crime rate increase in California okay

[00:54:22] uh california's violent crime rate increased in 2022 california's violent crime increased by 5.7

[00:54:29] percent from orange and 68 crimes per 100,000 residents in 2021 to 495 and 205 aggravate a

[00:54:35] assault for 67 percent reported violent crimes violent crime has increased in recent years like the

[00:54:42] nation-calfine seeing increases in violent crimes in the years since the pandemic it states

[00:54:46] violent crime rate is up by 13.5 percent compared to the pre-COVID rate 2019 so not tackling crime

[00:54:56] and crime is not going down so do you think he's delivered on his promise to help decrease crime in

[00:55:02] California? To decrease no it sounds like he is not but you know he did propose a 26th amendment to

[00:55:09] get rid of all guns and so that should help right? Yeah uh that's his new thing as he wants the 26th

[00:55:15] amendment to ban I don't know guns he finds scary and all these you know leftist pipe dreams

[00:55:24] about guns it'll never pass I mean it's ridiculous no one if anybody knows anything about passing

[00:55:30] amendments really hard to do you're not going to get three quarters of the states to agree to a 26th

[00:55:36] amendment to limit that much gun rights um but you know it's a good political talking point so

[00:55:42] all right so we've gone through a whole bunch of things we've gone through crime homelessness

[00:55:46] the economy firemen oil all that stuff I guess to close out because we're at the top of the hour do you

[00:55:55] think we need a second recall of Gavin Newsom after reviewing everything that he has failed to do

[00:56:02] do you think it's warranted to say he does need another recall? I have to explain it's all this

[00:56:07] uh he's a failure he is rooting our state he's an absolute failure he needs to go

[00:56:15] will core like he but I think you know where I stand with it is an election year I feel like our

[00:56:22] time-focused energy money all the things we should really just flip seats in the assembly to get

[00:56:30] rid of the supermajority because you have to remember if we don't have a supermajority sending crazy

[00:56:35] bills to Newsom there won't be crazy bills for Newsom to sign and policy does matter I mean most

[00:56:42] of this is stupid policies he's signed into law they're absolutely asked nine and we've learned no

[00:56:49] one can math so let's flip seats I understand I have no respect for Newsom there's nothing to justify

[00:56:57] any of this I was gonna ask you which what kind of out of time that I was gonna say is there even

[00:57:00] anything good we can say that Newsom did for California I don't even know I don't have an answer to

[00:57:06] that but I would say next to the recall and please everyone really get out and get people to

[00:57:12] flip seats get people to vote get like seriously spend your time and energy instead of

[00:57:17] collecting signatures for a recall I mean maybe we can do both then I don't want to tell people

[00:57:22] like what to believe in if if that's your caption do it personally me I say no don't let's

[00:57:30] let's show Newsom like that's what we can really stick it to him flip the flip these seats

[00:57:34] start overturning a lot of these bills start you know introducing new ones to outdo these

[00:57:41] disgusting stupid policies fix things and then like show everyone look how like

[00:57:46] runderhand useless show how asked nine years and don't let it run for president ever because he

[00:57:53] would just be a laughing joke in the interimation right no there's all valid points I think

[00:58:02] it the long term health of California is in flipping the legislature we've said that a thousand times

[00:58:09] if you want to really change things in California you got to flip the legislature or at least

[00:58:14] break yeah I mean flipping the legislature is going to be a long time coming but breaking the

[00:58:19] super majority makes a big difference like you said it does change the dynamic in Sacramento

[00:58:25] you're not getting so many crazy Bay Area politician bills that are getting to news from Stask yeah

[00:58:31] I would say if you want to show your disgust with how California is being run you know start

[00:58:37] flipping those seats start flipping an assembly seat or a senate seat or something like that

[00:58:41] I think that sends a bigger message to those in power in California when things start

[00:58:49] seats flip from Democrats or Republican or just away from Democrat doesn't be too Republican

[00:58:56] could be independent or Victorian whatever but I think that sends a more powerful message

[00:59:02] to everybody in Sacramento if they start to lose their grip on the state and

[00:59:07] sure we can look at all this stuff and say does Newson deserve to be recalled based on that job

[00:59:16] performance yes he does deserve to be recalled he's delivered on literally nothing things have

[00:59:20] only gotten worse I can't think of one thing that's actually happened that's gotten better under

[00:59:27] Gavin Newsom so yeah does he deserve to get recalled sure but it's like take that same energy to

[00:59:33] recall Gavin Newsom and put it towards local elections that actually will have an impact on

[00:59:42] California because I don't you know we can recall they can get the signatures they can get a

[00:59:47] million signatures again put it back on the ballot try again I believe it's probably gonna end

[00:59:53] up still being 64 to he'll win again in a landslide hold defeated and then we'll be back at

[00:59:58] square one so it's a mixed bag I think he deserves to be recalled so I think there's better

[01:00:06] things to spend our time money on yeah I think with these better races especially this year

[01:00:12] 2024 is big year so presidential years are always big there's a lot of seats in the state

[01:00:17] legislature that are vulnerable and applicable so focus on those and it's pretty well we saw

[01:00:24] the attitude of which I totally understand and I'm not judging anyone but it gets exhausting

[01:00:29] and people put a lot of energy into the recall and they were very excited to have this option to

[01:00:34] recall him then it didn't go through and so many people then you know 2022 was just right around

[01:00:40] the corner and they were like what's the point of voting so like my coach didn't matter it didn't

[01:00:44] do anything we tried to recall him and they get that like and so it just feel like if that happens

[01:00:49] again and then you know he still stays in office and people are gonna go into 2026 with that

[01:00:55] like it even more worse attitude like we tried we've tried we did it we put all of our energy

[01:01:01] and time and money into it and it got us nowhere so why do I want to vote now what's the point

[01:01:06] yeah and again I don't say that judgey Lee like we can't burnt out and I just feel like

[01:01:12] that's why we already have an election going on let's really show them where we stand at this

[01:01:18] election more importantly you know new sum is for a lack of not I don't want to compliment him

[01:01:28] he he is remaining relatively as moderate as possible so that he can run for president in 20

[01:01:36] which is a blessing in disguise for us Californians that he has vetoed a lot of stuff that's far

[01:01:41] left if you want it he's gonna be gone in two years regardless so whether we recall him he's gone

[01:01:46] next year he's gone in two years it doesn't really change anything he'll be gone I'm worried about

[01:01:52] the next person up who could be even more far left than news which is why again focusing on the

[01:02:00] state legislature is so important because if you focus on the state legislature break that super

[01:02:07] majority then all of a sudden that far left governor doesn't have as much power to pass as much as

[01:02:14] he wants so it's protecting the future by focusing on the legislature not just Gavin Newsome and Reed

[01:02:21] yes any final thoughts before we sign off yes just to do a really quick recap so we talked about how

[01:02:29] he's failed with fixing gas prices and electric vehicles are kind of going nowhere right now

[01:02:35] he's failed with jobs job growth not that that's really the government's job but

[01:02:40] clearly they've lied about what's been going on or wrong whatever he didn't save lives like he said

[01:02:46] hasn't solved it or even made a debt and homelessness crime rates are higher we did even get to

[01:02:52] the fact that homeowners insurance policies are being just canceled across the state and homeowners

[01:02:58] insurance companies are like nope not I'm gonna do that anymore and they're still pushing reparations

[01:03:04] and the fact that we have what what is our deficit right now it is like in the $73 billion

[01:03:12] and now proc one past and we think we're gonna afford all these things and yet our unemployment

[01:03:18] is the highest in the nation so good luck California good luck yeah it's not pretty

[01:03:26] much we have each and you know and those listening you always have this podcast where

[01:03:31] we try to inform you with a sense of brevity and lightness to it to at least make you laugh about

[01:03:38] what's going on so try to keep you informed as much as possible but yeah it's it's rough out there

[01:03:44] but again focus on local start flipping things here and there you can start seeing positive change

[01:03:51] with that we assure you will be making fun of everyone who runs against new sum because oh my gosh

[01:03:59] we had some sunny offline conversations oh my gosh yeah I can't wait to see the circus that rolls into

[01:04:04] town if there is actually a recall anyway on that note like thank everyone for tuning in as always

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