In this roundtable discussion, the panel delves into the implications of Prop 50 in California, exploring concerns about its potential to undermine voter rights and serve as a power grab by politicians. The conversation highlights the importance of voter engagement, the influence of social media, and the role of money in politics, while also considering the impact of Trump's involvement in the political landscape. The panelists emphasize the need for clear communication and education around Prop 50 to mobilize voters against it. In this conversation, the participants delve into the complexities of redistricting in California, particularly focusing on Proposition 50 and its implications for future elections. They discuss the political landscape, the influence of money in politics, and the importance of civic engagement. The conversation highlights the need for transparency in government and the role of litigation in protecting citizens' rights. The participants express concerns about the future of California politics and the necessity for voters to mobilize and participate actively in the electoral process.
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What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of the California Underground, Your host, Phil.
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And as you can see, we are surrounded by a whole bunch of
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people. This is the largest roundtable
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discussion we've ever had on the California Underground.
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Very excited. Some new friends, some old
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friends joining us and the topic of today is no on Prop 50.
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We're all discussing no on Prop 50.
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We don't have to give you the background.
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I'm sure you all heard about Prop 50.
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You want to go back and listen to any of our episodes about
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Prop 50? Let's get started.
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I mean, let's hop right into it. If you're in the chat, you're
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live and you have any questions for any of our speakers, please
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shoot them. I'll make do my best to make
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sure we get those questions out. But with that, I guess we'll go
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around the horn and start in alphabetical order order.
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So, April, why don't you introduce yourself first?
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I'm April Silverman, a mom of two boys in Los Angeles, and I
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live in Mayor Karen Bassett neighborhood.
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And yeah, it's a little, it's a little rough out here.
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And I started to get into politics as of last year because
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we started to get a lot of homeless in our neighborhood.
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And I fought back against that. And I they call me the homeless
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vigilante. And basically I got 10 votes
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for down the ballot conservatives last November
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election. And I haven't stopped every day.
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I just, you know, look for things to do and to try to make
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California better. Great Kylie.
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Awesome. Hey guys, I'm Kyle Campbell.
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I host this show that you can see a little part of Politically
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Basic had Phil on the show for. I think that was season 1.
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That was pretty awesome. I'm about to launch season 4, so
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rocking and rolling. I've spent 20 years on the
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campaign side of politics in media and messaging for
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campaigns and essentially helping people navigate media
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when they're running for political office.
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So love politics, love talking about every single issue under
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the sun that is political. Born and raised Californian and
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focus and specialize in a lot of issues having to do with
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combating human trafficking, all forms of human trafficking,
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homelessness, vulnerable kids and youth and just anybody who's
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being exploited or treated badly.
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That pushes my Mama bear button and we're sure having a whole
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lot of that in the state of California.
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So probably know way too much about Prop 50 and excited to be
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on with you guys today. So thanks for having me on.
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Yeah, I'm Zach. Bring it on home.
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Right. Well, it's a pleasure to be with
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you all here. Phil, April, Kyle, Camille.
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My name is Zach Giannino. I am the current vice president
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of the San Diego Young Republicans.
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And as you can tell, this is a very important issue, not just
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for all of us Californians here, but for the youth specifically.
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And I think that's one of my big driving points is that this
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isn't just going to affect you tomorrow.
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This is going to affect us years from now.
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And I think people should see sort of the ramifications.
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So I'm excited to have this conversation.
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There's so much to talk about. And yeah.
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Awesome. Great.
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And everyone knows Camille, of course.
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Let's just like just dive right into it.
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Obviously the title of this episode is No On Prop 50, we
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don't usually take a stance. We're not endorsing anything.
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That's always been our policy. We're not endorsing.
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We're saying like you have to do this, but we are of like mind
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that Prop 50 is a horrible proposition.
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So I was like, why don't we all get together and have this big
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round table discussion and get some other viewpoints because
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you probably heard me and Camille going over it enough.
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So we want to get some more people and some more fresh
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voices in here. So I'm going to open it up to
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the the panel and be and just say like, why don't you tell us
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a little bit about your concerns about Prop 50?
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Why? Why do you why are you concerned
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about this? Is it just a power grab?
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Is it sort of echoing into future generations of of power
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grabs? I know all of you have a lot to
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say about it. So whoever wants to go 1st jump
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in, don't be shy. We could do it alphabetical
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again. How about we do it, Kyle?
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Well, I'm just going to pick you first.
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That's a great choice, Phil. I do have a lot to say.
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I'm glad we're not digging into the background of how this came
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about. But I do think that it informs
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us in what's going on in the state this go around this cycle,
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because what we're seeing happen in the state of California, I
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think is more concerning than ever.
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And Prop 50 is a great example of this.
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Obviously, we have had a lot of issues in this state with
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California super majority kind of going rogue and not listening
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to the people making decisions without listening to the voice
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of the voters. And I think that Prop 50 is just
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a horrific but a very excellent example of what's happening.
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It's so ironic that there are all these No Kings protests over
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the last weekend all up and down the state of California while we
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are dealing with leadership that wants to act like a king and
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take total control and dictate things for for the people of
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this state. You know, we've got 39 million
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people. And the truth of the matter here
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is that Prop 50 shouldn't even be on the ballot as it's
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written. It is hijacking the the entire
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process. It's unconstitutional per our US
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Constitution, but also the state constitution.
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It's legally indefensible. But none of that seems to
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matter. And of course, our state Supreme
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Court right is just chock full of of Democrat voices.
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They're not going to even hear any argument against this, that
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it's unconstitutional. And I believe Steve Hilton, who
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you guys know very well is running for for governor next
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year. It great, tremendous patriot who
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loves this state. He has challenged Prop 50 and
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they've decided to put it on the docket and listen to it the day
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after the election. So we're just seeing nonsense
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after nonsense about this and a lot of people speaking up
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saying, you know what, I don't feel like my vote is going to
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matter. I think they're going to have it
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go certain way no matter what we do.
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And I'm just sensing so much, you know, just hopelessness and
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helplessness amongst the voters. I'm glad we're having this
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discussion today. I think probably one of the most
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important things that we can do is advocate, explain why we are
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taking a position when a lot of us, myself included, like to
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stay neutral on these things. But why it's so critical that we
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do have to get the vote out because these ballot returns
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have been so low. And I just think people are
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throwing their hands up and they're exhausted.
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I know we all are. You know, it is exhausting being
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a Californian and dealing with this crap day after day.
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But this one's so critical and it really has to do a lot with
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the future of how our state is run politically going forward.
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So get out there, team. We, we need you.
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We need you to fill that ballot out.
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It's the only thing on the ballot.
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It's just you can do it, fill in one bubble, get it in the mail
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and we've got to make this thing what I call too big to Gavin
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Rig. April jumped to you.
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It's weird, by the way. It's weird because like we, we
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are like connected on social media.
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So sometimes you see, like, people's usernames all the time.
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So then like you say April and you're like April Calliman.
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OK, Yeah. Not that Barbie.
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It's kind of like when you figure out Batman is Bruce Wayne
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and you're like, oh, now I got to call you by your real name.
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But anyway, April, why are you no on Prop 50?
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I liked, I honestly, I'm very happy to see Arnold
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Schwarzenegger throwing himself out there and going on Bill
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Maher and just speaking about this.
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Like he could be busy retired, you know, just at home resting
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and relaxing. And he's, he finds it's so
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important to talk about this right now.
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And he's saying it's like a huge scam because they're saying
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you're going after Donald Trump and it's a threat to democracy
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and all that. But you guys were like tearing
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up the Constitution from California.
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Like it's totally unconstitutional.
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Like 5.7 million people voted to make this independent Commission
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and we're just literally taking the the power away from the
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people and giving it back to the Sacramento politicians like they
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do. They run everything in our life.
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So they're the real kings, You know, we just have to fight
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back. And it's one, it's just one
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question, but Democrats are never lazy to vote.
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And I feel constantly having to beg people to do it.
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And I'm literally spoon feeding people and doing all the hard
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work and ballot harvesting and everything legal ballot
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harvesting, because that's the California way.
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But Democrats always show up, you know, And it's, I feel like
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it's our people. We get a little bit complacent.
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Zach. Yeah.
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So, Phil, when I first heard this proposition, when it was
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being discussed, I thought it was a joke.
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First I thought it was a joke. And then I had to remind myself
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about my California leadership. And then I had to say, wait a
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minute, they may be serious about this.
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And I, I kid you not to see it make it as far as it has to
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where it is now literally on our ballot.
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To me still is something I, I, I just like already stated, it's
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it's abhorrent policy making it, it's a slippery slope.
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It opens the floodgates. It's petty politics.
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It's Gavin Newsom launching his presidential campaign and
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sacrificing the state of California to do so.
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One thing that I think has been really impactful is not a lot of
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people know they maybe right now know what they want to vote yes
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or no, but a lot of the yeses don't exactly know why.
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And what I have found is when I say, well, I'm opposed to it.
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I'm not just opposed to it because I'm Republican.
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I can list you a laundry list of legitimate articulated reasons.
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And I think online I've been posting a lot about I oppose
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this because and listing stuff and talking about it and letting
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people know where I'm coming from because it's not just, oh,
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I oppose it because it's Republican and Democrats, like,
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no, this is bad for Democrats too.
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Because, you know, and again, I play the thought experiments.
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I say, hey, 20 years from now, let's say this sticks and this
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stays. And, and it's Republicans now in
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charge over Democrats here in California, like trying to play
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the perspective game with them. And I think it when you have
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conversations with people that actually want to understand this
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proposition, more times than not, from my experience, their
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eyes blow up because they realize this is just bad policy.
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Forget Democrat, this is just bad policy making.
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So there's there's definitely something to communicating why.
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And, and because I've, I've said why multiple times online, I'm
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even having local Democrats reaching out to me and asking
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why privately. Of course they wouldn't want to
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post, you know, online that they're asking me these
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questions. But you can just tell there's
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not a lot of education on the issue.
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And I think that's by design. And I think we have to do that,
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that second piece of like educating why this is horrendous
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policies, policy making proposition.
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So yeah. Well, of course Democrats want
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this, right, because they are significantly in the majority in
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this state and they cannot, they cannot participate in that
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thought exercise, right, Zach? They can't say, well, what if
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this were flipped and what if we had, you know, 40% of Democrats
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looking at potentially only having about 8% representation
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in the state? Of course they would hate that.
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They would never want that and they would never vote for it.
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But that's not the point. The point of this in in shoving
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this down California voters throats and blowing past the
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Constitution and not having it correct on the the prop correct
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or the district correct. And now we're throwing more
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millions and more dollars towards it.
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They're going to ram it through. So it never has the opportunity
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to be flipped, right. The temporary will never be
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temporary. There will never be an
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independent redistricting Commission put back in.
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And this is really the point. And it's so interesting to look
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back and compare this to what was happening during the last
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presidential election when when the Democrat Party thought we
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better ram our candidate through at all costs because we don't
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want anyone to find out what we've done.
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Look at all the things that, you know, Newsom and crew have tried
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to hide that they have done, and then they're passing regulations
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to to continue to cover for themselves.
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And now look at everyone being busted and prosecuted and being
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referred for prosecution who did the very exact thing during the
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Biden administration and thought they were covered and they
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weren't. So I see a lot of parallels
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happening there. And I think it's important that
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the voters understand that their plan is to not have this be
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temporary at all. The the plan is to to make our
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state so powerfully deep blue, so entrenched in this kind of,
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you know, illegal and unconstitutional way of
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leadership that nobody can ever turn it around again.
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And I see that happening in so many different ways.
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And it's, it's really scary. So I think understanding the
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urgency and the importance of this vote is really, really
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critical. Yeah, and just for ground rules,
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this is a free open round to you don't have to wait for me to ask
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questions. So if anybody wants to jump in
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and respond to anything, don't wait for me to ask a question.
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But I was on, I'll bring this up.
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I was on a podcast this past weekend and one thing I had
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brought up is I I think that like Prop 50 for Democrats in
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California is a reaction to how red California went in 2024.
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I honestly think they were like, that Scared the crap out of
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them. Yeah.
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I mean, you had Gavin Newsom going out to the Central Valley,
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you know, begging people, like, why did you vote for Trump?
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I don't get it. I don't understand.
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And then now they see it as an opportunity to be like, oh, we
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can redraw the map to keep it blue for a little bit longer and
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kind of push off this red wave that's happening in California.
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I think that's connected. I don't think that's a
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conspiracy theory to think like, they saw how red California went
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and they were like, oh, this is a good opportunity to turn it
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back more blue. I'll just throw that out there
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if anybody wants to comment on that.
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Yeah. Well I had actually made a reel
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that has gone viral. Weirdly enough, it all it is is
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1 image and it's the master from Politico and it's a 2020 after
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the election of 2020 map compared to 2024 after election.
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And then I just put and it was, I really was being sarcastic,
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but I was like, the real reason that Gavin Newsom wants to
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redistrict you. Posted.
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That that's you. I saw it everywhere I.
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Was going to. Shake, I was going.
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To share that oh. No.
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Way yeah, that was me. And actually somebody shared it,
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somebody big shared it on like just a screenshot on X and like
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it got almost 1 views there.
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But anyway, regardless, humble breath.
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Yeah. So I guess it has really gone
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viral. That's funny.
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Yeah. So the maps are from Politico
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because people have challenged me like you made these maps up.
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OK. I never said the maps were
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congressional. I want to point that out because
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I understand that that was not a Congressional District map, but
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something that a lot of the comments I've gotten on that are
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land doesn't vote, lol. The red areas are all land.
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OK, then why are we redistricting them?
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Why are you voting yes to redistrict this so-called land?
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If nobody lives there, leave it alone, right?
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And then don't worry, I have pages of notes and I'm not going
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to say everything right now. But liberals historically, we're
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all about like, oh, the, the, the underdog, we need to support
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the unrepresented. We need to, you know, like the
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minority. And in California, we
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Republicans or even independents, we are the
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minority. And they're like 9 seats out of
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52 is just way too many. So we would like to remove over
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half of them. But.
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Thank you for supporting the underdog.
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Thank you. Like what?
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Then it's just wild to me how they're literally like, you know
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what? I know that we ate like 70.
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I don't know the math right now, but like 70% of the pie.
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But, you know, we don't want to share the 30% with you or it's
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not even that much. It's just like here, you're 17%.
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We want to, you know, make sure that you only get 10%.
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And then, you know, everyone's argument is it's just temporary.
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Well, OK, that's stupid, but it's just temporary.
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Yes, so was the IRS. So.
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Well, somebody just crunched the numbers.
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It's interesting you bring that up, Camille, and I'm so glad you
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posted that because it's fascinating to look at the
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California map after every election every two years from
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like 1990 is really fascinating to watch it ebb and flow through
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those colors. The revolution that we've had
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here is really remarkable, but somebody just did the number
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crunch on the disparity between voters in Texas and what their
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Congressional District representation that the delta
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between the two. And it's something like it's
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like under 10%, something small, 5 or 6% difference.
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And then they did it here in California as things stand now,
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and it's like 22% now before we're we're going to go even
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further. And so, yeah, it's outrageous.
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It doesn't make sense any way you look at it.
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And and so I think that that when you for certain people who
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need to really understand the basis for this, I think that
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helps. It's like this is the whole
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point of redrawing or redistricting is to make it more
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equitable by district and all of the districts should be as
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similar as possible. And, and people who have that
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mindset, that kind of woke DEI mindset, they don't like that.
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They don't think that's diverse And, and that's what got Texas
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in trouble in the 1st place was the Biden DOJ saying, Hey, you
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got to put these like black and Hispanic districts together.
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And, and you know, that went up the court chain and they're
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like, actually that's pretty unconstitutional.
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You can't do that. But it's so funny that like the,
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the, what they're trying to say is actually a hallmark of our
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Republic. While they scream and cry that
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this is an attack against democracy.
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They're so confused about the fundamentals of how our system
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works and our Electoral College works and how it keeps things
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fair. And so I just think they're
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they're not very smart. I appreciate that you said it's
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stupid because they're stupid and get back to basics,
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understand the point and the purpose of all of this.
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And, and all it really truly is, is a shameless, egregious,
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blatant and transparent power grab.
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And we we need to know that that background behind it so that we
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can call it out. It's ridiculous.
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Would say all you'd have to look at or just real real quick.
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Just her last point, all you'd have to do it to look at is like
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Camille posted, and that's kind of why I wrote it down, is if
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you look at the maps and the trend in the direction and then
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look at the proposals of the new maps, they're legitimately
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trying to dilute the Republican strongholds by pulling in
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Democrat strongholds into Republican majority districts or
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as they currently stand, for instance, California 48, right?
00:19:56
They're trying to they're trying to grab Palm Springs into North
00:20:01
County San Diego as if like that's sort of like, you know,
00:20:05
makes any sense at all. But it again, it does when
00:20:08
you're a Democrat and you're looking to squeeze out all of
00:20:12
the remaining Republican congressional voices.
00:20:14
So I just think the the crazy truth of the matter is right in
00:20:18
front of us of what they're doing, the disingenuous nature
00:20:23
that it it, it's almost just so in your face to try and.
00:20:28
Distract from the fact that it's, yeah, it's it's
00:20:32
disingenuous, especially when you have Sarah Jacobs out here
00:20:35
campaigning for her boyfriend's proposed congressional map,
00:20:39
right? So the maps haven't even passed,
00:20:41
but she's out here campaigning for him, for this new district.
00:20:45
And it's just a mess because it's not about fairness at all.
00:20:47
It's about more Democrats in an already supermajority.
00:20:51
Yeah, they, I think they already had their people lined up too.
00:20:53
Like we've seen Richard Pan is now jumping into the race.
00:20:56
Oh, I cringe and then you know, they that's, I think he's
00:21:01
challenging Kevin Kiley's district and then I forget his
00:21:04
name. Phil, You might know who it is.
00:21:07
Well, all of you might know who it is.
00:21:08
Somebody, this is in the Assembly or is it this the
00:21:13
Senate, the state Senate, who is like stepping down from his role
00:21:16
earlier than planned and then all of a sudden.
00:21:18
It's like. Is that Yeah, I think that's who
00:21:21
it is. And then it's like, oh, he's
00:21:22
looking to run for Congress. Oh, funny how they they
00:21:26
literally have their little plants in place of he's going to
00:21:29
run in this new proposed district.
00:21:31
That mayor. Of course.
00:21:33
Like we passed. But yeah, they, it's like they
00:21:35
already had a whole, you know, that they've probably for months
00:21:39
been having private meetings and setting it up and like, OK,
00:21:42
we're ready to launch. Get ready.
00:21:43
We're going to, you know, we're going to put you all in place
00:21:45
and show those Republicans. Remember last year in the
00:21:52
election when they went crazy and they said Elon Musk bought
00:21:55
the election? They kept like, like they're the
00:21:58
ones who have the money at all times and like they have George
00:22:02
Soros putting money into this. They have Wilson, they put, they
00:22:05
have the Netflix guy. They have all this money going
00:22:08
in here. And I, I started to see before
00:22:11
even this started, like when you saw Gavin's like trying to like
00:22:15
soft launch his presidential run for like even before this whole
00:22:19
thing happened. And basically I can see the bots
00:22:23
on X, they're all coming out and they're saying the exact same
00:22:28
thing at the exact same millisecond from different
00:22:30
accounts for Gavin. And then on TikTok, which I'm
00:22:33
just learning because all the kids are on it and everyone said
00:22:36
I need to go on it too. So it's different than Instagram
00:22:41
and it's like more Instagram's more of like an echo chamber
00:22:43
kind of and so is XA little bit based on your politics.
00:22:47
And so with TikTok, I think it's it wants you to like have this
00:22:50
like engagement rage bait. So I post about no on prop 50 or
00:22:55
anything Trump related or anything.
00:22:57
And I'm getting like yes, on prop 50, yes, like non-stop and
00:23:00
the same comments. Now we know exactly based on
00:23:03
your post, we're going to do yes on prop 50.
00:23:05
Like they're paying for all these bots and all the this,
00:23:09
like this army of influencers or dancing and twerking for Gavin
00:23:13
Newsom for the past few months that just appeared from one day
00:23:16
to the next and nobody knows about it.
00:23:17
Nobody's talking about it. So it's just like really hard
00:23:21
because we have to push against this machine basically.
00:23:25
We can see the spreadsheet, the spreadsheet that just was
00:23:28
released of all the money that went into the No Kings protests
00:23:32
nationwide. I mean, it's just outrageous how
00:23:35
much money is going in. And you know that that's
00:23:37
happening with all of these other efforts.
00:23:39
I mean, the taxpayers are funding this assault on
00:23:42
ourselves, which makes it like insult to injury, right?
00:23:46
You know, it's so painful every day to to slog through living
00:23:51
here and write that check and pay those taxes, knowing that
00:23:54
it's it's going to counterproductive causes and
00:23:59
that's why we're losing so many people.
00:24:00
But the the flow of money politically is so screwed up in
00:24:05
this country. I mean, you can get around rules
00:24:08
so easily. Nobody's tracking it.
00:24:09
But but it's interesting times because lately, thanks to people
00:24:12
like Kevin Kiley or Bill Assailant or.
00:24:15
Are these people these? Warriors who are now, you know,
00:24:18
they're like superheroes for us. They're coming out.
00:24:20
They're exposing how this money has been spent and it is it's
00:24:25
just one in the line. This money that's gone into yes
00:24:28
on 50 is just one thing in a line of outrageous spending of
00:24:34
taxpayers, hard earned, hard worked for money that's been
00:24:38
taxed and cut and sliced right. We've got nothing left and here
00:24:41
it is going to to essentially manipulate the voter and trick
00:24:46
the voter. If you guys read your ballot
00:24:50
packet, what is it the the voter guide?
00:24:53
And I mean, most people probably throw it away.
00:24:56
I hope you don't. I mean, I actually don't care if
00:24:59
you throw it away. Truly just vote no.
00:25:01
But. It's online though.
00:25:04
Yeah, IA. Big old nerd with this stuff and
00:25:09
I wanted to read the language that they had around this
00:25:12
because I'm seeing the ads and I'm hearing the the messaging
00:25:15
that they're putting around this and being a media messaging
00:25:18
person for so long. I'm like, how are they going to
00:25:20
how are they going to finesse the wording and and motivate
00:25:23
people to vote yes on 50 to that that strips independence away
00:25:29
from voters and and takes control and they just flat out
00:25:34
say down is up. They do a 180.
00:25:38
They're, they're completely just flat out lying that we have lost
00:25:43
the guardrails that have managed how we operate in this space for
00:25:48
so many decades now. We know that of course
00:25:51
politicians are going to kind of work around the edges, right?
00:25:55
But this one is so blatant. And if you read what it says in
00:26:00
the in the voter guide, it's like, well, Texas did this and
00:26:03
Trump did that. And that means we can you're
00:26:07
talking about two completely different scenarios and and it
00:26:11
just makes absolutely no sense. And they're counting on the
00:26:14
people just simply listening to those those hot takes, easy to
00:26:19
grab on words like this. You know, this gives voters a
00:26:22
voice. This protects democracy.
00:26:25
And they think that voters are going to be so stupid and so
00:26:30
exhausted and not having time to do their homework or their
00:26:33
research on their own that they're just like, OK, yes, no,
00:26:37
don't do that. This.
00:26:39
It's just the blatant lying about what this prop is about
00:26:46
has actually truly shocked me and I thought that I did not
00:26:49
have any ability to be shocked left.
00:26:51
No, but didn't Kamala rename the the proposition that allowed
00:26:55
everyone to steal under $950? The Safe Neighborhoods Act?
00:27:00
So like actually. You're very creative.
00:27:03
You're. Creative.
00:27:04
Yeah, I feel this is a question. I didn't do my homework.
00:27:07
Let me ask you, I thought, was I wrong, Phil?
00:27:10
Did they didn't they pass some law that said that you have you
00:27:13
can't do that. We talked about this on the show
00:27:16
when I had you on It's like isn't that wasn't that at some
00:27:19
point in California history not allowed that you could you could
00:27:23
be so in non factual in the wording having to do with these
00:27:28
ballot propositions. Yeah, they, they've cleaned
00:27:31
that. I don't know which one it
00:27:32
specifically was, but it was after that one because it was so
00:27:37
misleading that now there's a law that the Attorney General
00:27:40
can't make it up. Like it's free ice cream and
00:27:44
puppies and reality. It's like we're going to tax you
00:27:47
to hell and whatever. So you there's been cases of
00:27:50
like the attorney general's been brought to court for misleading
00:27:54
voters. I I think Xavier Becerra was one
00:27:57
of them. A couple of times he was brought
00:27:59
into court for exactly that, like he was miss naming what the
00:28:03
proposition does to to lead people and he had to be forced
00:28:06
to like change it over. There was another one that was
00:28:09
like a proposition that was started by Republicans and then
00:28:13
the attorney general came in and like crushed it somehow by like
00:28:17
changing the whole name. It was the gas tax.
00:28:19
Maybe that was it the gas tax when they screwed everyone on
00:28:22
the gas tax and they made it seem like, oh, if you if you
00:28:25
vote yes, then you support. It was like confusing because
00:28:29
you wanted yes to get rid of the gas tax, but in reality was no,
00:28:33
we don't want a gas tax. So they kind of like.
00:28:35
This one such a beautiful example of that very thing.
00:28:38
I think it's just so obvious. I mean, where are the lawsuits?
00:28:42
Is is anyone suing? Maybe this is the right question
00:28:45
for you instead of that's wrong, why are they doing that?
00:28:47
We know why they're doing it. Who's suing over it?
00:28:51
This is the cat, the state that everyone's supposed to sue.
00:28:53
They sue for everything. But when it comes to like the
00:28:56
tyranny here, no one opens their mouth.
00:28:59
Everyone's like little obedient, you know, no one's protesting.
00:29:02
No one's anything on our side whatsoever.
00:29:05
Yeah. We shared a couple episodes ago.
00:29:08
There's the commercial where their whole thing is regarding
00:29:14
Charles Munger Junior who donated for no on Prop 50.
00:29:17
They're like, you know, anti abortion pearls, Munger, anti
00:29:23
LGBTQ. So they're, you know, Prop 50 is
00:29:26
so good guys that we're going to lie about what it is.
00:29:28
It has nothing to do with abortion rights, nothing to do
00:29:33
with LGBTQ, but they're making it like you're going to lose
00:29:37
your rights if you vote no. You know, you need to vote yes
00:29:40
on this. And all they have to do,
00:29:41
especially in these polarizing times, is just be like Trump
00:29:45
wants no. You need to, you know, stand up
00:29:48
Trump. And Camille, what I've found
00:29:51
going back and forth with people on this topic is I I simply say,
00:29:55
hey, just defend this proposition without mentioning
00:29:57
Trump or Texas. I'm all ears.
00:30:00
Just do that without mentioning those two people that really
00:30:02
have nothing to do with congressional districts here.
00:30:04
But but please. And they either block me or just
00:30:07
don't respond. So it's a constant like they run
00:30:10
into a wall when you keep pushing the questioning of like
00:30:14
explain it without these two names, evil villains that you've
00:30:17
been given to run with, but they they can't.
00:30:20
So that should. They can't.
00:30:22
They can't do that on. They can't defend any position
00:30:24
that they have now. That's pretty much a hallmark of
00:30:26
the Democrat Party right now. I, I love it when people do
00:30:29
those man on the street interviews with like people at
00:30:31
these protests and they're like, so how is Trump like a king?
00:30:34
And then they literally just lose their ability to speak at
00:30:37
all. And it's just amazing.
00:30:38
But but no, Camille, I saw that commercial that you guys had
00:30:42
posted on your account. And I think it's, it's very
00:30:45
indicative of how desperate they are to get this pushed through.
00:30:49
And that worries me more than almost anything is that they
00:30:53
will throw out the, hey, you know, abortion rights are at
00:30:57
risk. You're, you know, not just
00:30:59
democracy, but they're going to start attaching every single
00:31:03
thing that people could potentially care about and say
00:31:06
if you don't vote yes on 50, then you're going to lose these
00:31:09
rights. And it's just amazing because a
00:31:12
yes on 50 vote does mean that you lose your rights.
00:31:15
You lose your right to an independent Commission to help
00:31:20
make sure that these districts are fair.
00:31:22
You you. It is a threat to democracy in
00:31:24
our Republic because it is unjust and unconstitutional.
00:31:29
But the fact that they are pushing that fear mongering so
00:31:33
hard makes me think #1 they're going to do whatever it takes to
00:31:36
get this through and #2 that ain't going to be legitimate the
00:31:40
way that they do that. Well, we had also shared one ad
00:31:45
that I was like, you know what? I hate the ad, but I will give
00:31:48
him props for at least being honest.
00:31:50
It was Tom Steyer's ad that he funded himself, and it was some
00:31:54
guy playing Trump. And it was him like Trump
00:31:57
getting mad at Prop 50 passing and him throwing McDonald's and
00:32:00
stuff like that in the White House.
00:32:02
And the end of the ad goes, stick it to Trump, vote yes on
00:32:06
Prop 50. I'm like, you know what?
00:32:07
At least you're being honest. Because that seems to be the
00:32:10
only argument I hear from the other side.
00:32:12
Like I can't, I can't get anyone to articulate whether it be on
00:32:17
Reddit, whether it be on TikTok or Instagram or anywhere in
00:32:20
person. Like tell me why you're voting
00:32:23
yes. And this is a good idea.
00:32:25
And they're like, well, because Trump did this.
00:32:26
It's like, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope.
00:32:28
You're already out. Like you already missed.
00:32:29
Like, it's not about Trump. You're just a fan of
00:32:32
disenfranchising voters. It's kind of like the people who
00:32:35
still support Katie Porter. I'm like, oh, you support
00:32:37
abusive bosses. It's cool.
00:32:39
Good to know. But that's that the Trump angle
00:32:42
is interesting because I read something today that that Trump
00:32:45
might weigh in on Prop 50 like in the coming weeks or so.
00:32:51
And I want to get your guys's feel on that.
00:32:53
I'm not quite sure that helps. If Trump gets involved, like he,
00:32:58
he puts his finger on the, the scale, like just let it be like
00:33:01
let California figure it out. I feel like if he gets involved,
00:33:05
it's going to get more. It's going to galvanized the yes
00:33:08
votes even more. That's so interesting that he
00:33:12
that you said that he's going to may weigh in because like with
00:33:15
what's going on with the mayoral race in New York, that's a
00:33:18
disaster right now. He he'll make little comments
00:33:22
here and there. He's not in all the way.
00:33:25
I think he could have done more because I think it's really like
00:33:28
really frightening what's going to happen there.
00:33:32
But it's it's interesting though, because I don't know.
00:33:35
I don't know if he's going to get involved in this one.
00:33:37
I think people are going to that weren't planning on voting or
00:33:39
even knew are going to run towards it.
00:33:42
I mean, the whole debate last week, the mayoral debate
00:33:44
basically was Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump every single word
00:33:47
the entire time. So that is the magic word for
00:33:50
them. I don't know what they're going
00:33:51
to do in 3 1/2 years from now who they're going to, they're
00:33:54
going to say JD Vance, like it doesn't have a good ring to it
00:33:56
like that. They're not going to be able to
00:33:58
do that about everything. But him getting involved in
00:34:00
California, they love like from what I'm seeing on social media
00:34:05
when Gavin is fighting with him and I don't know how much of it
00:34:08
is actually like organic and real and not bots, but they love
00:34:12
it. They they're so excited about
00:34:14
Gavin like the superhero fighting the big, you know,
00:34:17
orange Cheeto man. They just, they love that.
00:34:19
So it could be a big problem if he, like I, talked about it, I
00:34:22
think. Yeah, I think the smart play
00:34:25
here is have Trump stay out of it.
00:34:28
Obviously they use everything he says and and does against him,
00:34:31
even when he's not doing anything, they'll find something
00:34:33
to use against him. But I think the real smart play
00:34:36
here and the good strategy, the the sharp strategy is to bring
00:34:40
Vance in because if we're looking ahead to 28, that is a
00:34:44
potential matchup. The person who can cut him down
00:34:47
the most right now and say, hey, keep it up, brother.
00:34:50
I'm taking notes on every single thing that you're doing, and I'm
00:34:53
going to use that against you when it comes time for for your
00:34:57
primary and the 2028 presidential election.
00:35:00
So I'd like to see Vance weigh in more.
00:35:02
He's been pretty quiet, which which could be a strategy in
00:35:06
itself, but but I think also, you know, it can be very smart
00:35:11
to just give people a long rope and let them hang themselves
00:35:15
with it. The problem is in the meantime,
00:35:17
the people of this state continue to suffer the profound
00:35:21
consequences of these, you know, horrible self-serving decisions
00:35:25
and actions that are super majority and Newsom and crew are
00:35:28
doing so. We'll see.
00:35:30
I hope Trump, I think he's not giving credence.
00:35:34
He's not giving any deference to Newsome.
00:35:36
He's like, that's not worth my time.
00:35:37
You know, he's small potatoes. I'm big time.
00:35:39
I've I'm creating peace in the Middle East.
00:35:42
You know, he's over here copying my tweets.
00:35:44
Like that's not worth it for me to spend time, you know,
00:35:47
responding to him. And I think it's a really smart
00:35:49
strategy. Yeah, I definitely hope he stay
00:35:53
silent because the second that he takes a stance, all the
00:35:56
Democrats, you know, whatever, he said, office.
00:36:02
Yeah, Here in San Diego, we see it from every level of of
00:36:05
office. All you have to do is slap a
00:36:07
Trump right next to your opponent and boom, the race is
00:36:11
off and you're going to get all of these unions and people
00:36:13
together like it's the end of the world.
00:36:15
And so, yeah, I think it's probably optically better for
00:36:18
him maybe to just sort of look beyond it because, yeah.
00:36:23
They did it to Rick Caruso and he had nothing to do with
00:36:26
anything with Trump related. They called him in that it's
00:36:29
like a billionaire boy toy womanizer.
00:36:32
Like they tried to make him like he looks nothing like Trump.
00:36:35
He acts nothing like like there's no connection
00:36:38
whatsoever. But it really worked Like a lot
00:36:40
of people I remember like were like, OK, we're voting for Karen
00:36:43
Vass because he's a womanizer and he's like Trump and they're
00:36:46
but they're buddies and they're this.
00:36:47
He didn't even vote for him. He had nothing to do with him
00:36:50
and it just, it's like a kryptonite for them.
00:36:52
They freak out. Yeah, I, I fail to see like,
00:36:58
outside of Zach, all of you have brought up great points about
00:37:02
how no one can really articulate, like, why they think
00:37:07
this is a good idea outside of it's Trump.
00:37:10
I mean, they got Barack Obama to do an ad that I see 2000 times a
00:37:14
day when I'm watching TV. I got like the news on, I have
00:37:18
like CNBC on just watching the markets and stuff like that.
00:37:21
And it's on every single commercial break I have to see
00:37:24
Barack Obama lie about how like this just protecting democracy
00:37:28
and brings people back. And they're redistricting.
00:37:31
And that's another thing that I don't understand.
00:37:35
And I think, Kyle, you brought it up about like, why the gap in
00:37:40
time? Like if, if this is truly, oh,
00:37:42
we're doing it just this once, just to stick it to Texas to
00:37:46
protect democracy, why does it have to last till 2030?
00:37:51
Like, why not just say that? Question.
00:37:53
I don't get that. And I I I don't.
00:37:55
Trust. Like, why are you not giving up
00:37:57
your power until 2030? Is it because in 20-30, you can
00:38:00
then come back to the voters and be like, hey, remember how we
00:38:04
did such a great job redistricting and making
00:38:06
California super, super blue? Like, well, we're going to do
00:38:10
that again. Why don't you vote for it again?
00:38:12
Like the census, right? Yeah, the census is.
00:38:15
Not happening. Obviously that's not going to
00:38:17
happen. A lot of people don't understand
00:38:19
what the prop says that it's temporary through, you know,
00:38:23
it's not temporary through next year.
00:38:25
It's temporary for several years.
00:38:27
And we don't know what things are going to look like by 20-30.
00:38:31
We don't know who's going to be in leadership.
00:38:32
So that's clearly, you know, manufactured by design.
00:38:36
But I think what what played out here, if we can just step back
00:38:39
and take an overview of all these pieces, all these little
00:38:42
puzzle pieces filling in the picture for us, You know, they
00:38:45
took their window. I think they have been looking
00:38:48
for some reason to, to do something here.
00:38:51
And I, I do believe that it, the wheels were put in motion when
00:38:56
Biden's DOJ sued Galveston County years ago.
00:39:00
I, I think that was the play then most unfortunately for the
00:39:04
Democrats, that didn't end up going their way.
00:39:06
Everyone got real quiet about it.
00:39:08
You know, when something happens, either you like it and
00:39:10
you don't want anyone to like, notice that other people don't
00:39:13
like it and everyone gets quiet or you don't like it.
00:39:16
You don't want anybody to say anything.
00:39:18
So they got the Dems got real quiet about what that higher
00:39:22
court decision was about Galveston and those minority
00:39:26
majority districts. And so everybody just kind of
00:39:29
like held tight. Well, here comes Trump in the
00:39:31
White House, you know, this past January and his DOJ is like,
00:39:35
hey, you guys, we got a win here, you can flip those.
00:39:40
And I think they thought, well, what do we do now?
00:39:42
Here's our window. We can blame it on Trump.
00:39:45
We can blame it on Texas. If those Texas, Texas
00:39:48
redistricting redraws of those maps had gained blue seats and
00:39:53
blue districts, nothing's happening.
00:39:57
The fact that you what? How many do they pick up?
00:39:59
Four or five seats 5. Seats.
00:40:02
Why? They're tracking 5 here, yeah.
00:40:04
They were all over that they were locked and loaded ready to
00:40:08
go. They saw their opening.
00:40:09
They're like, here we go the plans back.
00:40:12
We're we're back on track team and and they went for it.
00:40:16
And and Phil, I sent you on Instagram this compilation
00:40:22
video. I don't know if you guys have
00:40:23
seen it or if we're able to show it here on this on this live,
00:40:27
but it's our friend, Senator Shannon Grove, who we love and
00:40:30
she is she is at the mic saying who drew the maps?
00:40:34
Why won't they say, like, who was involved in this?
00:40:38
And then cut to every single interview with these assembly
00:40:43
members and they will not answer the question.
00:40:46
We're being transparent. But who drew it?
00:40:48
Nothing. Well, we're being so
00:40:49
transparent. We have a process.
00:40:51
It is shocking when you see those interviews side by side by
00:40:55
side about how shady this whole thing was.
00:40:59
So I I think it's worth a watch. Yeah, somebody in the chat said,
00:41:02
Oh yeah, you can totally take my freedom temporarily in quotes.
00:41:06
What did we learn about the government is that they never
00:41:09
take your freedom temporarily. That we we paint the.
00:41:12
Promise we're going to give it back.
00:41:14
What's interesting is actually so Texas, you know, was going
00:41:18
through all this and then there's like all these lawsuits
00:41:21
and and then they're kind of dropping some all that.
00:41:24
But technically California did this special session to vote on
00:41:30
this happening. And then they're like, OK, yes,
00:41:33
we're we're going to have this election.
00:41:35
And it was after that that Texas then officially went with their
00:41:40
redistricting. So technically, California did
00:41:43
it first. I mean, it's a technicality, but
00:41:46
technically California decided to redistrict before Texas
00:41:50
decided to redistrict. Yeah, I know.
00:41:52
I think they've been at this for a very, very long time and and
00:41:55
they seem to be on some kind of a shot clock.
00:41:58
And I do think that it has to do with next November and, and
00:42:02
Newsom not not being in position anymore, especially after the
00:42:06
debacle that is Katie Porter and her just general human presence,
00:42:12
not just as a candidate, but as a person, person, You know, they
00:42:18
thought that was in the bag and that she thought she had that in
00:42:21
the bag. And her interviews just she was
00:42:24
emanating this, this, you know, elitist.
00:42:28
Like I don't need these Trump voters.
00:42:30
I'm going to win. I've been assured to win.
00:42:32
And then it cracked open the Pandora's box of all of her
00:42:37
former interviews, which are glorious to watch, like watching
00:42:41
a train wreck right in front of your eyes.
00:42:43
And I think that has even put fuel on the fire that is
00:42:47
motivating them to get 50 through because now they're
00:42:50
worried about her and they're worried about who could
00:42:52
potentially win next November for that gubernatorial seat.
00:42:57
They're going to push her out the second this proposition goes
00:43:01
through for that in my opinion. I don't think they're letting
00:43:04
her represent them. They can't have another Kamala
00:43:07
running or like she's worse than Kamala.
00:43:09
No, I don't know who they're going to, who they're going to
00:43:11
have. They have the, what's it called
00:43:13
that What's the Spanish guy? You know, the one who was crying
00:43:16
with ice. Banta.
00:43:18
Christino. Yeah, I keep thinking Julio,
00:43:21
Jose, you know, like JD Vance. Would call him.
00:43:23
But he wants to jump in, I think, But I don't think they're
00:43:27
going to let Katie Porter. I think there's a lot more
00:43:29
videos out there and the second they, you know, double down on
00:43:32
her and endorse her, like the floodgates are going to open.
00:43:36
Camille, I know you're, you're like super investigative into
00:43:40
finances and financials. Have you looked into the company
00:43:44
that did do the redistricting for?
00:43:48
You know what? I have not.
00:43:49
And I I did intend to, and I haven't.
00:43:51
Because there's something floating on.
00:43:53
Oh, I bring it up because there's something floating
00:43:55
online about a, you know, I guess you just, I don't know
00:43:59
what form it is, but it shows financing, financing from the
00:44:04
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which
00:44:06
donated $108 to the Redistricting Partners LLC,
00:44:11
which is I guess the company that is looking to do these
00:44:15
redistricting. So I think there is certainly
00:44:18
conflicts when it comes to the company behind the
00:44:21
redistricting. I mean, I don't, I don't mean to
00:44:26
sound like condescending like, oh, of course, yeah, of course.
00:44:28
Because we've seen this with, you know, what was Panera
00:44:32
donated to Gavin Newsom. Therefore they're exempt from
00:44:36
this. Like this is just.
00:44:37
Crazy. It's so bizarre to me.
00:44:40
Like I, I know, I know I have friends that are Democrats.
00:44:44
I know they're good people. I just, it's the policies in
00:44:47
California that are absolutely insane to me that people still
00:44:51
go, oh, yeah, that's a good idea.
00:44:53
Oh, they're exempt. That's not questionable.
00:44:56
That's totally normal. Oh, Katie Porter dumped mashed
00:44:59
potatoes on her ex husband's head.
00:45:00
Like I she's a leader. Like, come on, people.
00:45:05
Come on man, you know. Zach, was that the company that
00:45:10
is Paul Mitchell, not the shampoo Paul Mitchell.
00:45:12
But I, I know it's Paul Mitchell who's married to Jody Hicks, who
00:45:17
is the head of Planned Parenthood political action
00:45:20
committee. So and she was up there at the
00:45:23
original like Prop 50 rally screaming and yelling about
00:45:26
Trump. And, you know, if if Trump wins
00:45:29
more House representatives, it's going to be a national abortion
00:45:31
ban. It's all connected.
00:45:34
I mean, it's it's not like shocking to be like, oh, the
00:45:37
head of Planned Parenthood political action committee is is
00:45:41
like married to the guy who is purposely redrawing the
00:45:45
districts in the Democrats favor.
00:45:46
Wow, how shocking. It's almost like having Lorena
00:45:49
Gonzalez and the unions redraw the map and say like, oh, that's
00:45:52
fair. Yeah, if Lorena Gonzalez redraws
00:45:54
it, I'm sure it's absolutely fair.
00:45:57
Well, there's also a reason that they were so tight lipped about
00:46:00
who was redrawing these. But if you if you chase the
00:46:03
money and the connections, it's really, really the stuff that
00:46:07
nightmares are made of. But but the question that I have
00:46:10
for you guys, Phil and Camille mostly, you know, Phil, I know
00:46:14
that you are a constitutional law attorney, bom, bom bom.
00:46:20
Here's the question, Camille, are you an attorney?
00:46:25
No. You're just you're just super
00:46:27
smart and you're like, you've got that research brain.
00:46:30
I appreciate that. I just.
00:46:31
Enjoy research. I'm a yeah.
00:46:32
I'm a stay at home homeschool mom.
00:46:34
Well. I love that.
00:46:35
I mean, that's like some of the absolute smartest people that we
00:46:38
have in our entire country. So I'm super grateful to you for
00:46:41
doing that and and having that big juicy brain because I think
00:46:44
you both can answer this question.
00:46:47
We keep seeing this over and over, right?
00:46:48
It's corrupt to the core. We're not following rules.
00:46:52
We're just trampling over the state constitution, the state
00:46:55
Supreme Court. Like, do whatever you want, It's
00:46:57
fine. We said so.
00:46:58
Yeah. And it puts it puts
00:47:02
conservatives and people who are rule followers and constitution
00:47:06
followers on the back foot. And this is something that we're
00:47:10
seeing over and over and over again.
00:47:11
You know, we had this huge push for some of this legislation
00:47:13
that Newsom actually just signed.
00:47:16
And, and it seems like all of our attempts to get the word out
00:47:21
and, and scream as loud as we could.
00:47:23
You know, we're not screechers. We're not screeders over here on
00:47:26
this side of things. We're reasonable and logical.
00:47:29
And we think, OK, well, we're going to, we're going to follow
00:47:31
the rules and we expect that other people will too.
00:47:34
And so how is this fought from a litigation perspective?
00:47:41
Should should this there be funny business around this vote?
00:47:46
I don't know. I'm seeing these ballot returns.
00:47:48
It's super discouraging. Let's say, let's say you know,
00:47:51
it does it does pass. What are the ways to to either
00:47:57
appeal for injunctions or or do say like there was some
00:48:01
inappropriate funding or something to kind of stop it or
00:48:05
slow it down? Or is at that point, do you guys
00:48:08
think we're just sunk and that no push back, No, you know,
00:48:13
litigation, lawsuits in any ways of bringing out that corruption
00:48:17
is going to do anything about it?
00:48:20
Camille, you want to tackle this one?
00:48:22
No, she's like, you know. Definitely an attorney question.
00:48:28
Well, I was going to bring up, I believe the Supreme Court is
00:48:32
actually reviewing a case on the Voting Rights Act right now,
00:48:37
which might make all of this like move to begin with.
00:48:39
Like they they may change the Voting Rights Act.
00:48:42
And then that changes the requirements for all these
00:48:44
districts that are being redrawn.
00:48:45
So like the requirement for Texas to do what they have to do
00:48:50
like would change. And I think I saw a picture of
00:48:52
like Georgia, if like they didn't have the Voting Rights
00:48:55
Act, like it gets even more red. But to answer your question
00:48:59
about litigation, I think the problem is, is there's just not
00:49:03
the willpower or the the backing.
00:49:07
And I, I've said on this show, Camille and I have said on this
00:49:10
show, you can't give up on California.
00:49:12
This is the we're on the front lines of like pushing back
00:49:16
against statism in this country. And it it only gets worse if we
00:49:20
just let California do whatever the hell it wants.
00:49:24
If we were able to find like, I don't know, a billionaire with
00:49:27
deep pockets who believes in like freedom of speech and free
00:49:30
markets. I don't know if they a
00:49:32
billionaire like that exists. Maybe he invented like a
00:49:37
electric car or something. But he could fund like a
00:49:41
litigation non profit. Like I think there's one that or
00:49:44
even fund like Pacific Research or Pacific Legal Center, that's
00:49:48
how you're going to start like winning.
00:49:50
Like you always see these updates from like the Firearms
00:49:52
Policy Coalition who's always suing Gavin Newsom as soon as
00:49:56
anything Second Amendment comes down the Pike.
00:49:58
And they usually end up winning because they have backing,
00:50:02
because they have a ton of backing.
00:50:03
They have a lot of Second Amendment people who fund them.
00:50:05
They go to court and they win. I think here in California you
00:50:09
have to have like a California specific non profit law firm
00:50:15
that literally just is full frontal attack blitzkrieging the
00:50:19
hell out of like, oh, San Diego did something unconstitutional.
00:50:23
Great, we're going to take you to court.
00:50:25
And then, oh, somebody did something unconstitutional even
00:50:28
under the California Constitution.
00:50:30
Like you got to keep in mind there's a ton of stuff under the
00:50:32
California Constitution. Oh, they did something wrong in
00:50:35
LA. Great.
00:50:36
We're going to go file a written mandamus that they have to do
00:50:38
this or they did something wrong and they got to return taxpayer
00:50:41
money per this part of the California Constitution.
00:50:43
Like that's how I think you win in the courts and in battle.
00:50:47
It's like you just have to be everywhere.
00:50:50
And then it kind of puts a lot of politicians on their
00:50:53
strategically like those, you know, the far left ones or the
00:50:57
status. It kind of puts them on their
00:50:59
their heels because they're like, oh, wait a second, if I do
00:51:02
this, I'm probably going to this will be taken to court and
00:51:06
overturned. Like right now.
00:51:08
The problem in my opinion is there's there's no one, like
00:51:14
there's no one to hold anybody accountable.
00:51:15
Like who? Who's gonna hold anybody
00:51:17
accountable? Rob Bond is gonna hold Gavin
00:51:19
that. Organization, I'm so glad to
00:51:21
hear you say that. We have that group.
00:51:23
It's Pacific Justice Institute. Is that who you were thinking
00:51:25
of? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:26
OK. So you know, you guys know I do
00:51:28
a ton of work with them and I Co host one of their shows and they
00:51:32
have 36 offices, 26 states, a ton of attorneys, a ton of
00:51:37
cases, their religious freedom, parental rights, civil
00:51:41
liberties, they're so. Busy.
00:51:44
They're so busy helping people sue and it's every state.
00:51:49
Texas has a ton of problems in education.
00:51:51
Camille, you probably know about that.
00:51:53
Like Washington state, Good Lord, they're busy in Washington
00:51:56
because, you know, people's, people's rights are being
00:51:58
trampled on every day. They just can't keep up with the
00:52:02
work. And so I'm glad to hear your
00:52:03
take on that. I think that we need more and I,
00:52:05
I hope people can support organizations like that because
00:52:09
they are the ones sticking up for the citizens and the little
00:52:13
guys when when we don't have the ability on our own to, to sue.
00:52:18
I'd love to sue Gavin Newsom. I also know that he would just
00:52:23
then use again our taxpayer dollars to invite me into
00:52:28
oblivion and probably ruin my life.
00:52:30
But but you know, it's like this whole David and Goliath thing
00:52:33
going on. And, and, and I do hope that
00:52:36
that lawsuits and this pushback does offer some consequence
00:52:40
because there are times it does kind of feel hopeless.
00:52:44
But I, but I think the more we talk about this kind of
00:52:47
legislation, these propositions, you know, these Assembly bills
00:52:51
and Senate bills that are just so horrid and the more pushback
00:52:56
there is, the better. So, so again, I'm really glad
00:52:58
we're having this conversation and laying out for people why
00:53:01
this one is so critical because if if it does go, I just don't
00:53:06
think we're going to get it back right.
00:53:10
And I and I psychologically real.
00:53:12
I just want to make this point real quick.
00:53:14
I, maybe I'm getting a little like heady here.
00:53:17
I, I think psychologically it comes back to what happened in
00:53:20
2024 where I think Democrats saw the map get so red and they
00:53:27
literally went, holy shit, there's way more Republicans and
00:53:30
MAGA people in California than we thought.
00:53:32
And I think that scares them to think like, there's more people
00:53:35
who can support these nonprofits.
00:53:37
There's more people who can support these PACs.
00:53:39
There's more people who are going to get behind these
00:53:41
politicians. Like there's more.
00:53:43
I think they looked at that map and went, there's way more
00:53:45
political power opposed to us than we realized.
00:53:49
We've been living in this world of like, oh, everything we, we
00:53:52
have the state on lockdown. We have everything.
00:53:54
We have a super majority. I think that map scared the crap
00:53:57
out of them. And what you know, shows like
00:54:01
ours and and influencers like you guys is like a great way to
00:54:05
to show like there's there's more of us out there than you
00:54:08
think. And that's really what it's
00:54:10
about is giving people that hope of there's there's millions of
00:54:15
us out here who are not far left status like they have up in
00:54:19
Sacramento. And that's what I think scares
00:54:21
the political elite in California is that there's an
00:54:24
army of us out here in California and that scares them
00:54:28
to their core. So sorry, Camille, you can.
00:54:30
Well, that's OK. That's actually a perfect segue
00:54:32
into what I was going to say. So, you know, not to be
00:54:37
pessimistic, but I'm pretty sure we all see the writing on the
00:54:39
wall. Yes, it's likely going to.
00:54:42
It's likely going to pass. However, there is still a chance
00:54:47
that even if it does pass come June in the primaries or sorry,
00:54:52
come November, we actually don't they they don't win those
00:54:57
districts and that we might actually flip more districts
00:55:00
because we are seeing people fed up and starting to wake up and
00:55:04
vote red and they're over these policies.
00:55:06
And so they're like, I think more people are going to
00:55:09
downvote Republican. And so it's like, it would be
00:55:13
actually hilarious to me if yes passes and then come and, you
00:55:17
know, next November, like they didn't win all the seats that
00:55:21
they thought they were going to win with this stupid waste of
00:55:23
money proposition that they're doing.
00:55:26
And regarding the law thing, which Phil, you could chime it
00:55:28
on this, but it does concern me that even if somebody does sue,
00:55:33
litigation takes so long that it might be 20-30 by the time they
00:55:37
even you know, where to, to, to do something legally or for it
00:55:42
to get anywhere. Well, with the good thing about
00:55:45
constitutional law is that usually you can get some sort of
00:55:48
injunction because a violation of a constitutional right is an
00:55:52
immediate harm to citizens. So usually that's the first
00:55:55
thing you ask for is a preliminary injunction of like,
00:55:57
stop doing this. Don't take away my gun rights
00:55:59
so. And just to give a small glimmer
00:56:03
of hope here, I know, I know COVID lockdowns sort of seem
00:56:07
like a fever dream, but it feels also just like yesterday.
00:56:11
And here in San Diego, while our local leaders were brazen and
00:56:15
just violating everybody's rights, like free, you know,
00:56:19
free for all. When organizations like we were
00:56:22
mentioning we have one here reopened San Diego, got involved
00:56:26
into the trenches and said, no, that's unconstitutional.
00:56:29
And what they were talking about was the city of San Diego trying
00:56:33
to mandate anybody that wants to run for City Council in San
00:56:36
Diego needs to be vaccinated. And so how horrific and dystopic
00:56:42
that sounds. It was challenged and brought to
00:56:44
court it it they reopened one in court and it was struck down as
00:56:50
unconstitutional and the city had to repeal it.
00:56:53
So that right there to me. And they didn't, of course,
00:56:56
didn't advertise that the local media didn't barely touch on it
00:56:59
and one article mentioned it and then that was it.
00:57:01
But like that was ginormous at a time they had arrogance up their
00:57:05
ass. Excuse my language, but the way
00:57:08
they spoke about how certain they were to see them lose on
00:57:12
constitutionality was a beautiful slap in the face.
00:57:15
So while the writing on the wall may not look as positive, things
00:57:19
could happen. But as you know, what we could
00:57:21
see there is still an opportunity I think legally in
00:57:26
the state to try and push back against them implementing
00:57:29
something. But it's not, you know, not it's
00:57:32
not all. Well, I was going to say April
00:57:34
in your hometown. I mean, you, you got the gift of
00:57:37
Bill Saley as US attorney and he's like a pull on a China
00:57:41
shopper. Like he, he's diving into all
00:57:45
the corruption that's going on in LA and like, that's enormous
00:57:49
because like, no one's been guarding the, the hen house
00:57:51
right now. And it's like he's going in
00:57:54
there. But nobody cared till he
00:57:56
started. I've been begging all the
00:57:58
reporters to talk to me about the the homeless issue.
00:58:01
I know people that are loaded the past two years that were
00:58:05
like middle class. They are rolling.
00:58:09
They're all in bed with Karen Bass.
00:58:11
They're all building housing that nobody's accepting, all the
00:58:14
numbers showing it when they actually do have an audit that
00:58:17
nobody even accepts the housing and these people are building.
00:58:21
You should see the parties they're throwing for their kids.
00:58:24
I mean, blowing millions of dollars like it's not normal
00:58:27
what's going on here. So I'm so happy that we have him
00:58:31
here now, at least somebody to expose this because that's
00:58:34
coming out of all our pockets. You know, we're all being
00:58:36
affected while everyone else is enjoying and going to the South
00:58:40
of France and throwing $1 bar mitzvahs, you
00:58:42
know? Yeah.
00:58:46
We'll ask you another question real quick.
00:58:48
Well, we just have a minute. Just I want.
00:58:50
I really want to. We have all the time, I said.
00:58:52
An hour, but I mean. I want to walk this forward
00:58:55
really quickly and and there's something about this prop that I
00:58:59
don't understand how this would work going forward.
00:59:01
And I do think, Phil, you probably can answer this
00:59:03
question should Prop 50 pass and and the independent
00:59:08
redistricting Commission is removed and now there is the
00:59:12
ability for this other state leadership to redraw these
00:59:16
districts. Can that happen at any time
00:59:20
then? So between when it goes into
00:59:23
effect and 2030, let's say to Camille's point, you know,
00:59:27
people are so livid over Prop 50 passing that, you know, it
00:59:31
actually turns turns the vote. Well, let's say that state
00:59:35
leadership says, well, we don't like that that happened.
00:59:37
Can they just redraw them again? I mean, is there some kind of
00:59:40
process or limit or timeline to how frequently these districts
00:59:45
can be redrawn then in this time frame?
00:59:51
I mean, I, I haven't memorized the voter language, but if it
00:59:55
says it gives it power back to legislature without the language
01:00:00
of finality of like this is it, we're doing it this one time and
01:00:04
then it'll go back to the independent redistricting
01:00:06
committee. I wouldn't put it past Democrats
01:00:10
to try and do it again in like a couple years at the next midterm
01:00:14
election. Be like, we're going to, you
01:00:16
know, this, we, we figured this one's not fair, so we're going
01:00:18
to redraw it again. And that may be a good like note
01:00:22
to end on is sort of the future ramifications and get your guys
01:00:29
opinion on this. I'm worried about the tit for
01:00:32
tat kind of like using the political process in this like
01:00:35
political warfare. Like it was kind of accepted
01:00:38
that like, OK, we fight things out at the ballot box with ideas
01:00:42
and our platforms and stuff like that.
01:00:45
Now we've somehow gotten into a weird war over, we're just going
01:00:49
to change the maps and we're just going to like, we're going
01:00:51
to battle each other. Like Illinois want to get
01:00:53
involved, Massachusetts want to get involved.
01:00:55
We're all like now just going to redistrict to rig the election
01:00:59
how we want it. Like that feels like we're
01:01:02
teetering on the edge of like destroying the Republic and what
01:01:06
holds us together. That may be the biggest thing
01:01:10
that scares the crap out of me is like, once states start doing
01:01:12
that, are we even a Republic anymore?
01:01:16
Are we even the United States where we follow a set of rules
01:01:19
of like you redraw your districts and they sit there for
01:01:22
10 years. We're not even following those
01:01:24
rules anymore. So I'll throw that out to you
01:01:26
guys, whoever wants to hop in. Like if you're concerned about
01:01:29
the bigger, like long term kind of catastrophic, I'm not trying
01:01:34
to be black billed here, but the catastrophic damage this could
01:01:37
do to like the fabric of our country.
01:01:39
I'm not trying to be too depressing at the end of this
01:01:42
episode about how the constitution everything might
01:01:44
call crumbling down after this. But anyway, whoever wants to
01:01:48
jump in after that cheery note? I mean, I'll just add to the
01:01:53
sentiment. Like I said, I thought this was
01:01:54
a joke because of how horrific it was.
01:01:56
And now that I realize, obviously it's not a joke, your
01:02:00
concerns are not just I mean, this is like, this is exactly
01:02:04
the way things will can and have gone in the past in other
01:02:07
countries. I mean, I studied international
01:02:09
relations. I I, I feel like countries are
01:02:11
living organisms. I've watched them rise and die.
01:02:14
And these are similar tactics of the tit for tat the OK, now our
01:02:19
ideas aren't clashing anymore. Let's start using institutions
01:02:24
to clash. Let's start lawfare.
01:02:26
Let's start redistricting. Let's because you're right,
01:02:28
there is an elevation in the political discourse today and
01:02:32
it's not based on discourse and dialogue.
01:02:35
It's based on on intimidation and structural changes.
01:02:40
So I do think that's a legit fear.
01:02:42
And that's one of the things I tell young people when talking
01:02:45
or my peers when talking about these issues is like, this is
01:02:48
something that's going to disenfranchise not just
01:02:52
Republican, Democrat, our system of government.
01:02:55
And moving forward, like you said, when's the when do we
01:02:58
stop? When do we just go back to 10
01:03:00
years? Or is it whenever someone's
01:03:02
upset they redraw? I mean, this is stuff that like
01:03:04
Robespierre did during the French Revolution, like when he
01:03:07
couldn't get enough Jacobins in the legislature, he just said,
01:03:11
oh, OK, I'm just going to swap all you out and put all my guys
01:03:14
in. And that's how I'm going to take
01:03:15
over. And it's like, that's what it
01:03:17
feels like. It's like, well, we can't get
01:03:18
enough representatives in Congress the normal way, the way
01:03:23
it's supposed to, so let's just cheat and get everybody in there
01:03:26
as much as we can. That's what it feels like.
01:03:29
Right. Yeah, Sorry.
01:03:33
I I should let the guests go first.
01:03:35
If we have you here for a reason.
01:03:37
Go ahead, ladies. Kamil, you have such good input
01:03:41
here, so please we want to hear from you too.
01:03:44
Thank you. I, you know, we haven't heard
01:03:49
the argument recently of pack the courts, but I feel like they
01:03:53
could use this if they now, on the one hand, if every state
01:03:57
decides to redistricted response it, they've said or like ChatGPT
01:04:03
or whatever has said, Republicans would actually come
01:04:05
out ahead, which that should scare Democrats.
01:04:08
But but if they do start to do this and get their way, can't
01:04:10
they then use it to pack the courts and pass that?
01:04:13
And and like I mean exactly like Phil said, where does it end?
01:04:18
That was my exact point I was going to make actually, was that
01:04:22
this will be used. No, no, this, this will be used.
01:04:25
It's this finger pointing and blame placing in order to
01:04:29
justify and distract the voter and and fill your right.
01:04:34
You know, we, we are drifting so far from the intention of why
01:04:39
our country is a Republic and why we don't ever let majority
01:04:43
rule infect our, our process of decision making.
01:04:48
And, and this sort of top down with the voter and the people at
01:04:52
the top. We aren't a monarchy.
01:04:55
That's the point. And, and it's interesting to see
01:04:59
that we are inching ever, ever closer in this state to, to
01:05:03
operating like 1. And it is scary.
01:05:05
And I think it's OK that people listening tonight to this
01:05:09
understand how vital this vote is.
01:05:12
I would say in the last 15 years, maybe this is probably
01:05:15
one of the most critical votes and and ballot propositions in
01:05:19
terms of how things are going to go forward and how we are just
01:05:23
sort of letting go of those guard rails that are that are
01:05:25
keeping some kind of reasonability in place for
01:05:30
protecting the way that we operate as a Republic.
01:05:34
So I would just encourage everyone just that now's the
01:05:37
time. Get off your Duff, fill out the
01:05:40
bubble, put it in the mail, please.
01:05:42
Like it's literally the easiest thing to do.
01:05:45
And I have a lot of concern with our heads are in policy and
01:05:50
legislation and California specific movement all day long.
01:05:54
This one is really highly concerning.
01:05:58
Please vote. Yeah, I, I think that COVID,
01:06:05
when it all has started, everybody freaked out all of a
01:06:08
sudden, Oh my God, we don't have rights.
01:06:10
All these things are happening. We started learning and waking
01:06:13
up and like, Oh my gosh, like all these things, they're able
01:06:15
to do this. They're able to do that to us.
01:06:17
And I just feel like we had like, it was, it's quiet.
01:06:20
It's like this like quiet situation going on.
01:06:23
And they're doing all this stuff behind the scenes, like, oh, we
01:06:26
got Trump in office. Wonderful.
01:06:28
Everything's good. And they're just always like
01:06:31
working, passing these little props and these little bills and
01:06:34
everything under your nose because there's so many people
01:06:36
who are not, you know, involved and they think, okay, everything
01:06:40
is all good now Trump's in office, we're good to go.
01:06:42
And it's just, it's a slippery slope.
01:06:44
And I feel like it's just like this, the calm before the storm.
01:06:49
And I just feel like it's like it's escalating.
01:06:51
And there's something else that they're always, that they always
01:06:54
have up under their sleeve. And just, I'm just very
01:06:56
concerned that like, it's not going to be the end of this, you
01:06:59
know? And who knows why they're
01:07:01
passing this and what they really haven't.
01:07:03
Like there's something else going on that we just don't know
01:07:06
about. And that's why they're pushing
01:07:08
this to distract us. Everyone should be like, on top
01:07:11
of Newsom with everything going on with the fires, like the fact
01:07:14
that nobody's saying anything. This was like the perfect time
01:07:17
to swoop in and distract from his horrible response that
01:07:21
nothing's been built there. You know, no one's ever moving
01:07:24
back there. And anytime soon, you know, by
01:07:26
20-30, I doubt it. And so he just brought this
01:07:30
whole thing in like, nothing to see here.
01:07:31
I'm going to distract you with this like a magician.
01:07:34
So it's just, it's very alarming and I don't know what, you know
01:07:37
what's coming, but everybody's got to just vote.
01:07:39
It takes literally 2 seconds. It's super easy.
01:07:42
Yes. And what's interesting too is
01:07:44
which of course, we've all brought this up a million times,
01:07:47
but you know, Prop 36, which overwhelmingly passed in
01:07:50
California, including obviously Democrats.
01:07:53
So even Democrats, you should be concerned about the fact that
01:07:55
you voted to pass Prop 36, Gavin Newsom said we can't fund it.
01:08:01
There's no money. And it magically came up with,
01:08:05
you know, nearly $300 million to have this special election.
01:08:10
And so why aren't you challenging the man that you put
01:08:12
in office of we voted on this proposition, we wanted to fund
01:08:17
it. We agreed that that was a good
01:08:19
use of tax dollars. You said, no, we don't have the
01:08:22
money, but here it is. What what were you doing all
01:08:24
that time? Where did this money come from
01:08:26
if we didn't have it before You guys come on, challenge,
01:08:31
challenge the governor that you elected on his policies.
01:08:36
It's a good question. Yeah, like April said.
01:08:38
Like it's. Go ahead.
01:08:41
Yeah, no, I was just gonna say like, it's a great point April
01:08:43
made is people got so excited that Trump got reelected and
01:08:47
they were like, that's it cool. We won, It's over.
01:08:51
It's like, it's like Top Gun, roll the credits.
01:08:54
You know, it's all good. Like it's all that.
01:08:56
We won. America's back.
01:08:58
Look. At Miami right now, Miami,
01:09:00
they're trying to pass a mayor in there.
01:09:03
I don't know how they did it, some loophole.
01:09:05
It's a year before the race. Nobody even knew.
01:09:08
All of a sudden she's like a Soros funded Democrat socialist,
01:09:12
like anti-Semitic jihadi person and it's Miami.
01:09:16
It's like full of Jews and she's like, no bail reform homeless
01:09:20
encampments like Karen Bass on freaking steroids in Miami
01:09:25
because you all thought, oh, we're all good.
01:09:27
We got Ron De Santis, everything is great.
01:09:29
We can walk around with guns strapped to our like, no, that's
01:09:33
exactly what they do. You're distracted thinking
01:09:35
everything's fine. And little by little they do
01:09:37
these local races. Look at Arizona, Arizona thought
01:09:40
it was red. And look how they got, you know,
01:09:42
Katie Hobbs in there. Did they ever get her out?
01:09:44
I mean, with the conflict of interest there, that she
01:09:46
literally oversaw her own election and all the fraud,
01:09:50
that's the problem. It's very hard to backtrack
01:09:52
these things. She got in trouble for so much
01:09:54
fraud and all these things, but nobody's talking about it,
01:09:58
everyone. Forgets you've heard that saying
01:10:00
right about conservatives about Republican when we lose, we quit
01:10:05
and when we win, we quit. And so I think if if we are
01:10:09
still sadly, not too many days past Charlie Kirk's murder and
01:10:17
death and and we cannot lose hold of that fire, that every
01:10:21
person in their own way needs to figure out how to have their
01:10:23
voice heard to do something to to make videos and put them out
01:10:27
there on TikTok, right? Like, even if you get the hate
01:10:30
in return, do something like get out there, encourage people to
01:10:34
vote. Go collect your friends signed
01:10:38
and sealed and filled out ballots and ballot harvest the
01:10:41
right legal way. Everyone has a different way
01:10:45
that is unique to them that they can participate in this,
01:10:48
participate in your civic duty. This is our, this is our right.
01:10:51
People fought very hard for us to have this ability.
01:10:55
So I would just encourage everyone to to do your part in
01:10:58
the way that you can. And, and we cannot quit now.
01:11:02
We we've got to keep going. Yeah, my mom brought up today.
01:11:05
She's like, California has made it so much easier for everyone
01:11:07
to vote and yet less people vote.
01:11:10
So if you haven't voted yet, get your friends together this week.
01:11:14
You're all just going to pile into whoever has the largest
01:11:16
car. Go drive through fast food, get
01:11:19
yourself some large diet Cokes, and then just drive up to a
01:11:21
ballot box and drop off your ballots.
01:11:23
Make it, make it your girls night out, your guys night,
01:11:27
couples date, whatever, go do it.
01:11:31
Make it a party. Make it a whole night out.
01:11:33
All right, Well, thank you everyone for, well, you know how
01:11:38
I like to say, like I sit down and have a glass of whiskey
01:11:40
before my full ballot next year. Why not make it a whole house
01:11:44
party? Don't drink.
01:11:45
And drive. Don't drink and drive Uber to
01:11:48
your bell box or or way MO or something like that.
01:11:51
They don't pop. People for for driving drunk
01:11:53
anymore Camille in this state so oh.
01:11:55
Yeah. I missed that one.
01:12:00
I'm kidding. You definitely will get in
01:12:01
trouble. Don't.
01:12:02
You yeah, that is not advice to go out drinking and driving.
01:12:05
That is, we do not endorse. That crack on the sidewalk?
01:12:09
That's OK. Oh my gosh.
01:12:10
And color self homeless. Jaywalking.
01:12:13
So, you know, go ahead and. Go ahead and do, yeah.
01:12:16
You'll get 12 ballots, That OK? Now we're we'll have to, we'll
01:12:22
have to have another roundtable about like all the problems, all
01:12:25
those dumb laws with California. We could probably have a three
01:12:27
hour show about dumb laws in California.
01:12:29
Multiple. Hours.
01:12:31
Well, I want to thank you guys for coming on.
01:12:33
This was an amazing roundtable. I feel like we could have talked
01:12:36
for like 3 hours, but there's a lot of great discussion about no
01:12:41
on Prop 50, a lot of other things we touched upon.
01:12:45
So before we log off for the night, I want our guests to let
01:12:49
the viewers and listeners know where they can go find them,
01:12:52
where they can go follow them, stuff like that.
01:12:53
Keep up with them and their input and all that.
01:12:55
And yeah, just let us know where where we can find you.
01:13:01
Awesome. Thank you, guys.
01:13:02
Thanks for having us. This was fantastic.
01:13:04
I hope we can do it again. Appreciate you guys and
01:13:06
appreciate everything that California Underground is doing.
01:13:08
You guys keep up the great work. If you want to follow along and
01:13:11
get your basics broken down all the time, I'm at Politically
01:13:15
Basic and at Being Kyle Campbell.
01:13:19
April. I'm at Cala Cali Maga Barbie on
01:13:24
Instagram, that's my main page, but I'm also on TikTok and X and
01:13:29
YouTube and I've been talking a lot about the other election,
01:13:32
not just California right now, but exposing what's going on in
01:13:36
the New Jersey and New York City race.
01:13:38
They asked me to get involved in Virginia also, so talking about
01:13:42
all the things basically. Awesome, Zach round us at.
01:13:48
Yeah, so again, Phil, you know, I love what you do and I
01:13:51
appreciate you having this conversation.
01:13:52
We need to have more of it. I'm going to give a shameless
01:13:55
plug to our October 25th deployment for no on Prop 50.
01:14:01
It's going to be in Poway. And if you're in Poway, CA,
01:14:04
we're going to be hitting the neighborhoods from 8:00 AM to
01:14:06
12:00. And then we're going to San
01:14:07
Diego Young Republicans is going to provide lunch.
01:14:10
So definitely, regardless of what's writing written on the
01:14:14
wall, we, we know, you know, we have been raised here in
01:14:17
California to have thick skin and continue to fight.
01:14:20
So we're going to continue to fight.
01:14:21
You can follow me at Zach Giannino or follow us San Diego
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Young Republicans on our social media.
01:14:28
Awesome. Right, well, thank you again
01:14:29
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01:14:38
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01:14:41
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