Episode 42 - Pence Dominates In Debate, Left Tries to Distract, No on Prop 16

Episode 42 - Pence Dominates In Debate, Left Tries to Distract, No on Prop 16

Pence was incredibly successful at dismantling all of Harris's arguments. So much so that now the Left is working to distract about anything but that debate. 


$35 million contract with Biden friendly PR Firm was cancelled because Secretary of State Alex Padilla doesn't have the power to make such budgetary decisions. 


We also discuss Prop 16 and how it plans on stopping discrimination by making discrimination legal under the California Constitution. 


Show Links



  • Victor Davis Hanson Video
  • https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/must-see-victor-davis-hanson-delivers-passionate-defense-trump-american-worker-authentic-america-represents-video/ 

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What's going on? Everybody think for tuning to

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another episode of the California Underground.

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I'm your host Phil. Less than a month away until we

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all vote for the next President. Whether we reelect President

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Trump or we can with Sleepy Joe Biden, there's a lot happening

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in the last couple weeks and it's always a frantic mad dash

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until the end. And this week has been

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absolutely no exception. We talked last week about

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coronavirus and. President Trump is really.

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Bounce back from it pretty quickly.

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It's it's surprising to see what's really surprising.

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I mean, he's got the man and he never really.

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He never drank, never smoked. A little overweight, but he

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bounced back from it really quickly.

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He has the best care in the world because of the Walter Reed

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hospitals, and he's the president, so he gets the best

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care in the world. But he's bounced back.

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It looks like his doctors are now saying you can go back out

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to public events on Saturday, and it sounds like that's what

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he plans on doing. There was a little bit about the

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VP debate, which I think that Mike Pence absolutely destroyed.

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He did better than I was expecting.

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I'm not gonna lie, he did way better than I was expecting.

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He was calm. He was cool, he's collected.

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He was like he was like a sniper as opposed to Trump's machine

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gun style. Trump is machine, he just.

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He will brute force where you down again and again and again

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when it comes to debate. While Mike Pence was calm, cool,

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collected. He did go over a little bit.

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I think he could have been a little bit more succinct in how

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he responded. Got to the point, because once

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the moderator got involved and started talking over and it was

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kind of hard to hear what he was saying.

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But I think he landed a lot of strong blows against Kamala

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Harris and anybody who really watched that debate.

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Anybody who saw and was honest said it could say that Mike

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Pence came out. The winner of that debate.

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He came out a strong winner. And I think that's the reaction

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you're starting to see from the left.

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This week. Is that Kamala Harris did really

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poorly. She was not able to answer a lot

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of things. She was constantly on defense.

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Mike Pence did a great job putting her on defense the

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entire time and basically kept her honor her toes, and she

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really had no comeback. She was snarky.

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She was her typical Kamala Harris self.

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She was the little cringey she tried to get some of those one

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liners in that she always has. She always works.

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She thinks she was going to get a snippet like the one part

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where she said I'm speaking and Mike Pence said.

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Well then you should speak the truth.

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I think he took a lot of air out of a lot of those.

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Moments with that. Kamala Harris usually looks for

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if you remember back to. In the debates when she tried to

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catch Joe off with that, yes, we can line about.

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Instead of saying no, we can't. Why don't we say yes, we can.

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It's a lot of these presidential debates you have.

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These people who are already geared up.

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They know that maybe their opponents going to walk into a

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sort of line of questioning or an answer, and they get it all

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geared up. Which is kind of like attorneys

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do anyway. Good attorneys already know how

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they're going to lead their opposing party or the opposing

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counsel, and they get them sort of where they want them.

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And then they can kind of hit him with.

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That that knockout punch. But I don't think Kamala Harris

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really laid that punch. I don't think she ever did.

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I think Mike Pence did a great job pushing back on her.

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He was the. It's a perfect antidote to

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Trump's craziness. The first time I think he did a

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great job explaining the record and putting them on defense and

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the fact that he was able to get her to not answer three times.

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Not once twice, but three times to packing the Supreme Court.

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And they for some reason don't seem to want to answer it.

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And when you ask, people say, well why won't they answer it?

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They don't. They don't want to tell you well

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why should we answer it? Trump won't denounce white

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supremacy. OK, well we're going to go back

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to the same old. Trump won't denounce white

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supremacists again and again. Again, that seems to always be

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their fall back. Why won't Trump denounce white

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supremacists and Neo Nazis, even though we've all seen the videos

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they've been flying around social media that Trump has been

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denouncing white supremacists. And Neo Nazis hate groups for

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decades. And every time he's presented

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with it, he always denounces them.

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He always disavows him. He disavowed David Duke as soon

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as he got his endorsement. The Charlottesville hoax.

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That's what I really knew that she was losing, and I think

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that's sort of emblematic of where the left is right now.

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And I saw someone make a good point that they wouldn't be

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invoking the 25th Amendment right now.

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If they were killing it in the polls that their internal polls

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must be showing them something that they don't really like,

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which is why they have to get the attention off of the Kamala

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Harris's performance and instead on the 25th Amendment.

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Or the fact that Trump still has coronavirus.

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Or can he go back out with the coronavirus?

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It's now become. They're trying to distract you

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from everything that's going on. There is a huge declassification

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which they're trying to get your attention away from.

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The declassification of documents involving Obamacare or

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Spygate or Russiagate or whatever you want to call it.

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At this point, I think at this point they see something in the

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internal polls that shows that maybe Joe Biden does not have a

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path to victory. And disregard the national polls

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at this point. Because at this point, the

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national polls. Are just that they are a poll

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that the nation but you don't win the presidency on a national

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popular vote. You win the Presidency by

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winning state by state by state, and you have to look at the

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battleground states where Trump will likely have his path to

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victory and I think it looks more beneficial to President

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Trump than it does Joe Biden. I don't think Joe Biden is going

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to win Florida. He's not going to win Ohio, and

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then it becomes a question of the other states.

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Pennsylvania the Rust Belt. And if Joe Biden doesn't win

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Pennsylvania and he loses Ohio and Florida, it's effectively

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done, and his night is over. Good shot, good try and

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President Trump will win. But The thing is, President

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Trump has to win by a lot this time because they are going to

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cry foul all the way until they get every single vote, or every

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box of mail in votes that they can get and shove in which.

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Infuriates me that they have now allowed for people to continue

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to drop off their ballots even after the election, which is

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crazy to me, that you can watch the results of the election and

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then still have days later, almost a whole week in some

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places to go out and still vote. So if you say Oh well, this

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person is down and this comes back to our talk about local

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elections. If you see someone who is

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winning on one night and then it turns around and they say, OK,

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well, we just need to get 800. Votes to flip this City Council

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seat or this county supervisor seat here in California that can

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make all the difference in accounting in a city in a

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mayoral race, and that's what it really comes down to.

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And that's what's scary is that they are waiting and they can

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hold back a lot of these ballots and then at the last minute go

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and ballot harvest or get as many as they want and turn the

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tide of the present or the elections locally, not

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necessarily presidential. I don't know if there's going to

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be that tight of a race. That presidentially that they're

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going to have to have this huge mail in vote, and if I think if

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it gets to that point where it looks like Trump has won by a

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lot of electoral votes and all of a sudden all these states

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start showing up with different ballots out of nowhere, this is

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one of the reasons why they kind of want to get Amy Coney Barrett

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on the Supreme Court. Not because she's politically a

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conservative, but mostly because she might adhere to the rule law

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that we have an election. This is our election.

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This is when the time stops. You're not supposed to vote

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after the election. There are plenty of safeguards

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in place. If you don't want to get Corona

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or you're scared about coronavirus, there are plenty of

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safeguards in place, and I think the idea that you can extend the

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election out farther and farther after the actual date is

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terrifying. For most people, it's terrifying

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for me because everyone there are a lot of people who are

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predicting this red mirage. Of it can look like President

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Trump wins on election night, but then as the votes trickle in

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mysteriously weeks after all of a sudden looks like Joe Biden

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can win. So that's why there needs to be

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a huge electoral landslide so that it just blows Joe Biden out

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of the water. And statistically there is no

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way for him to make up the ground without cheating without

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getting caught in court. And that's basically it, but.

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I think that this week they. Are starting to freak out.

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I think maybe they see the internal polls.

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Maybe they start to see what people are talking about.

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Maybe they start to see in their battleground states they're

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really losing a lot of votes and that they're losing a lot of

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support. I was watching Tim Pool and he

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was talking about this secret vote or the secret Trump vote

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majority that we all talk about and that one study came out and

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said that actually, there's probably 20% of people who are

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withholding telling polls that they are supporting President

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Trump. Now imagine that 20% swing in

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one way or the other and you have.

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If President Trump had that 20% swing, we're now looking at a

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runaway race and President Trump will win reelection easily.

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But I think that's why they're starting to go with this whole

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idea of the 25th Amendment. And now they're starting to

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build a Commission on it. Which great, we're gonna waste

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more tax dollars on a Commission to pay people to pay lobbyists

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and consultants and attorneys to kind of sit down and look at

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something that we already know long that a good constitutional

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scholar can tell you. In five to 10 minutes, but

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they're going to pay millions of dollars of your tax dollars to

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look at the 25th amendment, and whether it applies to President

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Trump. And this brings me to another

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point that I want to make opening up the show is that the

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Democrats and the left always seem to do these things that

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then eventually bite them in the ass.

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And the biggest example of that is with.

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What happened with Harry Reid getting rid of the filibuster?

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At the time it was politically advantageous for the Democrats

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and they were short sighted. Now you have.

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President Trump, who was able to confirm hundreds of judges, will

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be on his way to three Supreme Court judges because Amy Coney

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Barrett will be confirmed. Looks like they have the votes

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that it's all locked up that there's really nothing they can

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do to stop it. Unless there's a huge.

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Revolt on Amy Coney Barrett at the last minute, which I doubt

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because why would these Republicans turn their back on

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him? And now they're reaping.

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They're reaping what they sow. So now this whole idea of the

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25th amendment the 25th, they want to keep talking about the

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25th amendment. I hope this never comes to pass,

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but if for some reason Joe Biden does win the Presidency.

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Don't you think the Republicans are all of a sudden going to

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turn around and talk about the 25th amendment, don't you think

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they're going to plague Joe Biden with the 25th Amendment

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again and again and again? And they're going to make him

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basically a lame duck president the day he gets inaugurated.

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These are things that Democrats don't ever really see.

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They see it as politically advantageous right now, but they

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don't see it down the line and how it could come back to bite

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them in the ass. Do I think this is also just a

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play to get the attention off the debate?

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Sure, do I think that their internal polls might be showing

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that they're really in trouble? Also a possibility, because

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that's why they're freaking out. Do I think it's weird that the

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morning after Kamala Harris got so destroyed by Mike Pence?

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That all of a sudden, the debate Commission said, uh, you know

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what next next debate is gonna be virtual?

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We're not even going to discuss it with the campaigns.

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Don't you think it's a little weird that that happened that

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they didn't actually wait until maybe later in the morning to

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discuss it with the campaigns? So that at first thing in the

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morning at 8:00 AM, they disclosed we're going to have a

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virtual debate and this is one of those art of the deal

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President Trump moments where he said OK, fine, you wanna have a

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virtual debate? I'm not gonna do it.

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I'll just go have a rally, who cares and he's done that before

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in the primaries. He skipped the debate.

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And it actually ended up the people tuned more.

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Didn't really tune into that debate because they were missing

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President Trump. And then comes out a little bit

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later that they're actually going to postpone it.

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That it looks like it's just going to post.

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Push everything back a little bit to allow President Trump to

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get his negative tests so that he doesn't have coronavirus.

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But all of this seems to be. Smoke bombs to sort of get

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people not on the. Focusing on different things,

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the Democrats really don't have a platform.

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They don't have a platform when it comes to national politics

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right now. I mean, they have a secret

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platform. They have a secret platform of

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socialism, higher taxes using climate change as an excuse to

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take over every sector of your life.

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Getting rid of the Second Amendment.

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These are all things that they secretly know that they want to

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do. That's their secret platform,

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but their public platform has to be different, just like why they

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have Joe Biden instead of Bernie Sanders running for president

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because Joe Biden is the nice, calm old grandfather who's a

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moderate guy. He thinks he's a tough guy from

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the streets of Scranton, PA. Even though he's mostly been in

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the Acela corridor his entire life.

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But that's their secret platform, and we saw it on

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display on Tuesday that there was no platform that Kamala

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Harris could really push, and Mike Pence did an incredible job

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bringing it back to the VP debate.

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Mike Pence did an incredible job pointing out that they don't

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have a record to stand on that their record is not great that

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their platform is contradictory, that they continue to say we

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don't support the green New Deal, and we won't ban fracking,

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and he was able to get. To say we were we're not going

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to ban fracking even though they're on tape, saying that

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they're going to ban fracking. The same thing with packing the

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Supreme Court. He was able to get her to not

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say anything about the Supreme Court and make it look like

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they're hiding the ball again. Name one policy that came out of

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Kamala Harris on Tuesday night. It's hard to say one.

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It's hard to say what they stand for.

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The same thing with the tax rates or the taxes.

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They tried to argue that they won't raise taxes on the middle

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class, but yet they turn around and say, well, we're going to

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repeal the President Trump's tax cuts.

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By doing so, you're raising taxes on virtually everybody.

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But they won't tell you that. Instead, they'll say, well, it's

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just over $400. See, there is really no platform

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for the Democratic Party. This go around and that's why I

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kind of am starting to feel better.

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The contrarian candidate usually never wins.

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For example. People say, well, there might be

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more people who are. Upset and want to get Trump out

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of office. And I'll say to you this.

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It wasn't that long ago I'm I'm old enough to remember.

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When John Kerry ran against George W Bush, now George W Bush

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at that time was a hated man. He was compared to Hitler.

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He was compared to an authoritarian to a tyrant, to a

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dictator. He was called an idiot.

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He was either a masterminding an idiot all at the same time.

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People hated him because of what he did with the wars in Iraq.

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The fact that they had implemented the Patriot Act,

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there was a lot of things that people didn't like about George

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W Bush. He was the devil Incarnate.

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He was the end of the Republic. Sound familiar?

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It's exactly what's going on today.

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The media is pushing that Trump is the end of the Republic that

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we're all going to crumble down if we don't elect.

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This Democratic candidate, that's the end of our country as

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we know it. But what happened in 2004 well?

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We all know how that happened. John Kerry, who was an

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establishment Democrat, had been around forever.

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A senator who had been around forever.

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Ran against George Bush and lost.

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Because outside I didn't really know what their platform was.

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Besides, I'm not George W Bush. Now Fast forward. 16 years

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later. You have another establishment,

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old Democrat candidate. Who is running against a

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incumbent Republican president? And the line is, I'm not Donald

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Trump. Well, I'm not that guy, so you

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better vote for me. I don't think it didn't work

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then, and I don't think it will work now.

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If you don't have anything to run on, people are probably just

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going to sit this one out. People on the fringes, the

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people who aren't really into it, are going to sit this one

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out. And that's what it really comes

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down to. Democrats need the enthusiasm to

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get out the vote, and if they don't have the enthusiasm to get

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out the vote, they don't have the platform to get out the

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vote. They're going to lose.

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As opposed to President Trump, who I think has a platform,

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whether he articulates it or not in a certain way, I think he

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stands for something that a lot of people are recognizing, and

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it's not showing in the polls. I want to play a clip for you,

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Victor Davis Hanson. He is a brilliant writer.

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I always like listening to the Victor Davis Hanson.

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I like reading his articles, he writes an American greatness.

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He writes a lot on California politics, but this is

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specifically him on Tucker Carlson talking about President

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Trump. And the difference between him

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and Biden after that we're going to get into.

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And more California stuff. I promise we're going to get

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this more California stuff. We're going to talk about the

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$35 million contract that was rejected by a state controller

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that we discussed a couple of weeks ago.

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And we're also going to talk about Prop 16 today and how that

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violates the Constitution. But first, let's hear this clip

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and reflect on what Victor Davis Hanson says about the difference

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between Trump and Biden. So thanks for coming out.

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What what did you make of that debate?

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Well, it was pretty clear what their strategy is and you hit on

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a lot of the points is that they're going to talk about

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race, and they're going to talk about Trump as a mass killer,

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and that means they're not going to answer any questions about

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tracking a new Green Deal or packing the cord or who they

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would appoint because they are elite leftist, who have made a

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bargain with desperate hardcore socialists and are not allowed

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to speak that even AOC kind of is in the deal.

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She's had a little anemic. We should actually fracking's

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kind of bad so they know where they're allowed to go and

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whether or not and that and that they take kind of a cue from

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Barack Obama. Guy who went to prep school,

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grew up in an upper middle class.

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Grandmother was a bank official, and then he told us he was part

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of the underclass and he had been a victim of racism.

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And then he was actually a moderate.

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He was going to balance a budget.

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He wasn't going to let China be in debt.

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We weren't going to be in debt to China anymore.

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He said that he was opposed to gay marriage.

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He was going to close the border, and we know where that

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would he had the most liberal. Voting record like Kamala Harris

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almost in the Senate. So we know what they're doing.

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They won't talk, they won't discuss and then what's the

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tactical manner in which they carry out that strategy?

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I think it's triple they're going to stay in seclusion

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because they feel that these polls are accurate and they're

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going to do a run out the clock and not get any controversial

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statement and then play it because they're not authentic.

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People play as if it's good old Kamala who grew up in Oakland

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when actually her parents were PhD.

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She lived a pretty privileged. And lifestyle and good old Joel

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from Scranton. The working class guy who became

00:20:30
a multi millionaire after 5 decades in government.

00:20:33
And they're not gonna come out. And they're not gonna say

00:20:36
anything that's controversial. Joe, you that quote from Joe

00:20:39
Biden proved that and then second, they're going to

00:20:40
outsource this to the media and the Pelosi Democrats.

00:20:44
So every four or five days we're going to get that.

00:20:47
Donald Trump insulted the war dead or he didn't and they were

00:20:50
all encapsulated in Kamala Harris's talking points.

00:20:53
Or he didn't bring up the Assassin's.

00:20:56
With Putin, who were after our soldiers in Afghanistan or Trump

00:21:01
called the the coronavirus. The hoax which we know even

00:21:04
liberal fact checkers have rejected.

00:21:06
Or he said something that Charlottesville and that that's

00:21:09
going to be and right before the coronavirus struck Trump, we

00:21:12
were in the melanias trusted friend, actually taped her phone

00:21:16
call. That was a three day cycle

00:21:18
drama, and now it's Nancy. Now it's the turn of Nancy

00:21:21
Pelosi today say 25th amendment. He's crazy and so that's what

00:21:25
the media's role is. And then.

00:21:27
And then you can see finally these, I'll be Frank Tucker.

00:21:30
The moderators have a modus operandi.

00:21:33
They always have the gotcha question for Trump.

00:21:36
Didn't you say something about not accepting the election?

00:21:40
Didn't you say something that Charlottesville didn't you?

00:21:43
And then to the other side, it's we're not going to ask you

00:21:46
anything about you ain't black or you insulted an African

00:21:49
American journalist and called him basically a junkie and a

00:21:52
cocaine user. Or why Kamala did you call Joe

00:21:56
Biden right? No embarrassing.

00:21:58
Questions like that, so that's what they're hoping at and then

00:22:01
it it begs the question, what's Trump to do about this when he's

00:22:04
a 360 degree opponents in the celebrities in the academic

00:22:09
world and intellectuals and the wealthy and the elite of Silicon

00:22:14
Valley and Wall Street? I think he's got a.

00:22:16
He's got to emphasize that this election is on class.

00:22:19
It's not on race. There's 100 million people.

00:22:22
Muscular people are out there every day, taking a risk that

00:22:25
they're going to be infected. Why they serve you, it's.

00:22:28
At a store, or they bring your door dash food your curbside.

00:22:31
Or are they bring your oven when it blows up from Home Depot or

00:22:36
they're trucking all night or they're producing food?

00:22:39
Are there farming? And yes, they don't always have

00:22:41
the correct mask and maybe they don't social distance, but

00:22:43
they're keeping the country going for whom the zoom and the

00:22:47
Skype class that are in their bike, basements, telemarketing

00:22:50
or teleworking or whatever they do.

00:22:52
And making a lot of money and then hectoring everybody that

00:22:55
they're politically incorrect. Or they're racist or they're

00:22:58
mask. An inch too small or they were

00:23:00
one foot closer and Trump's got to say, you know, I'm I'm one

00:23:04
with these people, I I wanna frack because that frees us from

00:23:08
these middle Middle East quagmires and it gives your kids

00:23:11
good wages and doesn't send your kid to Afghanistan or Iraq.

00:23:14
I want to get out of the Green Deal because I want you to have

00:23:16
a job. I don't want a bunch of elites

00:23:18
in the Bay Area to tell you how to live your life so it's got to

00:23:21
be a classical argument and I think he can say I'm one with

00:23:23
you and I did. I don't have any apologies for

00:23:25
getting sick. That's what the president

00:23:27
supposed to do. You're supposed to take risk.

00:23:29
Meet foreign leaders. Bring individuals into the White

00:23:32
House, crisscrossed the country. Yeah, even have a rally.

00:23:35
I'm not and you know what. When I get sick I'm gonna take

00:23:37
risks by taking experimental drugs if I have to get back on

00:23:40
the job. I am not going to stay in my

00:23:43
basement and quarantine myself and isolate myself and pass

00:23:46
judgments on others that you're not willing to take.

00:23:48
The same risk. I think that argument is going

00:23:51
to appeal. A lot of people are getting

00:23:52
tired of the sort of the sort of things that you outlined

00:23:55
tonight. Well, I certainly am the people

00:23:57
who benefited the most from the country seem to despise.

00:24:00
The most which is unsustainable. Professor Vic Jeff Hansen.

00:24:03
Great to see you tonight. Thank you.

00:24:07
Victor Davis Hanson. Like I said, it is a I think a

00:24:09
smart guy. He's very smart guy.

00:24:11
He's always well spoken his writing.

00:24:13
If you ever get a chance, he writes a lot for American

00:24:15
greatness. Just look him up, but I think he

00:24:18
nails it on the head. The real difference here between

00:24:21
Trump and Biden, and it's the difference of Trump wants to

00:24:26
stand for the people who want to get back to work who want to

00:24:28
continue to live their lives and follow these common sense ideas,

00:24:33
or these policies of I want to get to.

00:24:36
Fracking because it's going to provide energy independence, and

00:24:39
these ideas that I want to help you get back to work because we

00:24:42
can't live in our basement forever.

00:24:45
And we've seen in 2020 the rise of this Heckler, the basement

00:24:48
Heckler, and it's been everybody who's lectured everybody about

00:24:53
masks or going out. Or if you want to go to a

00:24:56
restaurant or if you want to go back to your job or anything

00:24:59
like that, we've seen the rise of that Heckler, the person who

00:25:02
is safe in their home, who is the techie, who has a

00:25:05
teleworking job or someone who doesn't have to worry about

00:25:09
actually going to a brick and mortar store has been heckling

00:25:12
everybody else on what to do now.

00:25:14
I think at this point there's been a lot of people pushing

00:25:16
back. I think it will end up in the

00:25:20
polls. You'll see a lot of people

00:25:21
secretly say. I just want to go back to life.

00:25:24
I'll take the risk. I believe I can take the

00:25:28
personal responsibility to do what I need to do and that

00:25:31
really, if we're boiling it down to the most simple of

00:25:34
principles. That's really what this is all

00:25:37
about. Is.

00:25:38
Do you believe in personal responsibility and freedom and

00:25:42
taking risks? Which is really what this

00:25:44
country is built on, is the idea of taking risks.

00:25:48
Putting yourself out there. Maybe you're going to get harmed

00:25:51
economically physically or whatever.

00:25:54
Or are you going to allow an elite ruling class to tell you

00:25:58
what to do for the rest of your life?

00:26:00
And that's I think the message that's the closing argument that

00:26:04
the Trump campaign really has to make heading into these final

00:26:07
weeks is do you want this where you have?

00:26:12
Blue check, Twitter mobs and the coastal elites telling you what

00:26:17
to do with your life. Or do you want to decide what to

00:26:21
do with your life? And that's what it really comes

00:26:24
down to. So now I've talked about that.

00:26:28
I did want to talk a little bit about this article.

00:26:32
We had discussed a couple of weeks ago about the $35 million

00:26:35
contract that was paid for with taxpayer money that was awarded

00:26:39
to a Biden PR firm. Now it wasn't.

00:26:43
I should say it's not a. PR firm that's owned by Joe

00:26:46
Biden. But it is the PR firm that works

00:26:49
with Team Biden and the issue, and I will bring it up real

00:26:52
quickly. The issue you could imagine is

00:26:54
that this contract is was this PR firm contract was entered

00:26:59
into with the Secretary of State Alex Padilla as a part of the

00:27:03
Get out the vote. PR marketing campaign now tell

00:27:09
me doesn't it sound a little odd that you would give $35 million

00:27:13
to a PR marketing firm that is Team Biden?

00:27:20
And is all about get out the vote so you don't think that get

00:27:24
out the vote PR campaign is going to be a little skewed and

00:27:27
not only that, it's $35 million up our tax dollars that Alex

00:27:31
Padilla has paid to them. But in a move that was great.

00:27:36
See. Earlier this week around

00:27:39
Tuesday. That state controller, Betty

00:27:43
Yee, had rejected the contract with SKD Knickerbocker, a

00:27:47
Washington DC based public affairs firm Who's managing

00:27:50
director is Anita Don, a senior adviser on Joe Biden's

00:27:53
presidential campaign and White House communications director

00:27:56
under President Barack Obama. California Republican Party

00:28:00
chairwoman Jessica Millan. A Patterson said this it's

00:28:04
disgraceful to Californians and the state that the state

00:28:07
controller had to explain to Secretary Padilla that he has no

00:28:10
budget authority to make this wasteful and completely

00:28:12
partisan. $35 million expenditure and had to step in

00:28:15
to protect the integrity of our election system.

00:28:18
And it's even worse that Governor Gavin Newsom has

00:28:20
remained silent when the integrity of our election was in

00:28:22
jeopardy. For a headline chasing

00:28:24
politician like Gavin Newsom to not comment about this person,

00:28:28
contract raises. Question of his potential

00:28:30
knowledge and involvement. It goes to say.

00:28:35
Goes on to talk about how the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers

00:28:38
Association was a part of it. Basically it's a win for

00:28:43
California taxpayers, and the fact that we didn't that we

00:28:45
avoided spending $35 million. So good news, I'll keep you

00:28:53
updated. As always, I like to keep

00:28:54
following up on these stories because just giving you the one

00:28:57
detail or the one new story, it doesn't always provide you the

00:29:01
full scope because these things actually continue to happen over

00:29:05
the course of time as next thing I want to talk about is Prop 16

00:29:09
and this was brought on by a listener question.

00:29:12
As always, you can call in and ask questions to the podcast.

00:29:16
You can go to anchor dot FM California underground.

00:29:20
There is a button to leave a message and just like calling

00:29:23
into a radio show, you can go online.

00:29:26
You need to do it real easy right from your phone.

00:29:28
You can do it as many times as you want to make sure your

00:29:30
message is correct so. Let you listen to this question

00:29:34
and then we'll talk more about Prop 16.

00:29:37
Hi Phil, this is Jim from Sunnyvale, CA.

00:29:39
I'm reading the text for Prop 16 and it says they want to allow

00:29:45
the use of skin color in hiring for state jobs for contracts for

00:29:52
the state and for admission to state schools.

00:29:55
This. To me this sounds like racism

00:29:56
straight up and I have a question as a lawyer.

00:30:00
Do you have any idea how Prop 16 would be implemented?

00:30:04
We all have to take 23andMe style genetic tests so the state

00:30:08
would know which racial category we belong to.

00:30:10
Would we, as citizens be given laminated cards like CDLS that

00:30:15
listed our racial identity Tang? I still recall the days when

00:30:19
South African apartheid and race policies were bad, not a how to

00:30:22
manual. So excellent question.

00:30:26
Thank you Jim for calling in or leaving a voice message.

00:30:30
It's always I like to hear other people calling, so make sure if

00:30:33
you want to or you have a question you want to be

00:30:35
discussed. You can control what we talked

00:30:37
about on the podcast, so perhaps 16 is the proposition that looks

00:30:42
to strike a provision from the California Constitution

00:30:44
regarding discrimination based on race.

00:30:48
It's not only race, but it's a whole bunch of other things as

00:30:50
well. So this is part of the

00:30:52
California Constitution and perhaps 16.

00:30:55
Looks to amend the California Constitution by basically

00:30:58
striking out section 31 of Article one that states that the

00:31:03
state shall not discriminate against or grant preferential

00:31:06
treatment to any individual or group on the basis of race, sex,

00:31:10
color, ethnicity or national origin in the operation of

00:31:12
public employment, public education, or public

00:31:14
contracting. This section shall apply only to

00:31:17
action taken after the section's effective date.

00:31:19
Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting bona

00:31:22
fide qualifications based on sex which are reasonably necessary

00:31:25
to the formal. Operation.

00:31:28
That goes on and talk about remedies available for

00:31:31
violations of the section shall be the same regardless of the

00:31:33
intra parties race, sex, ethnicity, or national origin as

00:31:36
or otherwise available for violations that then existing.

00:31:40
So that's really what it is looking to do is to strike all

00:31:44
that from the California Constitution so.

00:31:50
Basically what it is doing is allowing discrimination based on

00:31:54
all these areas in the public sector so.

00:32:00
Let's go back here because there is a site and of course, as

00:32:03
always I do post the link. So if you want it's called stop

00:32:06
prop16.org and they have a lot of stuff about Prop 16 you can

00:32:10
go there. Obviously I'm going to come out.

00:32:12
I'm not going to hide the ball on this one.

00:32:14
This is a strong no for me. This doesn't really make any

00:32:17
sense. I'm not really sure why they

00:32:19
think this is a good idea. For one thing, this is their.

00:32:25
This is their argument in favor of Prop 16, which if it makes

00:32:29
sense to you, let me know yes on Prop 16 means equal opportunity

00:32:34
for all Californians. All of us deserve equal

00:32:36
opportunities to thrive with fair wages, good jobs and

00:32:38
quality schools. Despite living in the most

00:32:41
diverse state in the nation, white men are still

00:32:44
overrepresented in positions of wealth and power in California.

00:32:47
OK, so we're going right after the white met, not even hiding

00:32:49
the ball in that one. Although women, especially women

00:32:52
of color. On the front lines of the

00:32:53
COVID-19 response, they are not rewarded for their sacrifices.

00:32:57
Women should have the same chance of success as men today.

00:33:01
Nearly all public contracts in the jobs that go with them go to

00:33:04
large companies run by older white men.

00:33:08
White women make $0.80 on the dollar.

00:33:11
The wage disparity is even worse for women of color in single

00:33:14
moms. As a result, an elite few are

00:33:18
able to hoard wealth instead of investing it back into

00:33:21
communities. Prop 16 opens up contracting.

00:33:23
Opportunities for women and people of color.

00:33:26
We know that small businesses are the backbone of our economy.

00:33:28
At Main Street businesses owned by women and people of color

00:33:31
lose over 1.1 looks like trillion dollars.

00:33:36
Sorry million billion dollars. One point 1 billion.

00:33:38
I always like Joe Biden. Million trillion billion, $1.1

00:33:41
billion in government contracts every year because of the

00:33:43
current law. We need to support those small

00:33:45
businesses, especially as we rebuild from COVID-19 with

00:33:48
wealth will be invested back into our communities.

00:33:51
Yes, on Prop 16 helps build California stronger.

00:33:54
This fair opportunities for all. Yes on Prop 16 means supporting

00:33:57
women and women of color who served disproportionately as

00:34:00
essential caregivers. Frontline workers during

00:34:02
COVID-19 explain access to solid wages, creating opportunities

00:34:05
for women and women, improving access to quality education.

00:34:08
Both K through 12 schools and higher education for all Calvin

00:34:11
kids. Taking action to prevent

00:34:13
discrimination and ensure equality for all.

00:34:17
So that's their argument in favor of Prop 16.

00:34:22
Like I said, if you can decipher what that really means.

00:34:28
Then please explain it to me because that argument seems to

00:34:31
be all over the map. Of course it seems like it was

00:34:33
written by someone off the politics subreddit.

00:34:37
It goes right into attacking the old.

00:34:39
The Boogeyman that is older white men and white men in

00:34:42
general. And it says that somehow this

00:34:45
law by getting rid of this will improve wages for women and

00:34:49
women of color. And then it even goes on to say

00:34:52
that it will access more better jobs.

00:34:56
Quality schools. Again, I'm not really sure.

00:34:58
Quality schools have anything to do with this, but when you have

00:35:01
a proposition that is really bad on the core, what's the best

00:35:05
thing you can do? Throw something about schools in

00:35:07
there and this is always a dead giveaway when they try and go

00:35:11
heavy on the kids in the schools that doesn't really have

00:35:13
anything to do with the proposition.

00:35:15
It's usually a good sign that they're trying to slip 1 by you

00:35:18
and make you think. Oh, this sounds good.

00:35:21
It's for the children. It's for children in schools,

00:35:24
when in reality you have to look at it.

00:35:27
And the ironic thing is that at the end.

00:35:28
Say taking action to prevent discrimination, ensure equal

00:35:31
opportunity for all, which it doesn't.

00:35:34
How does Prop 16 ensure equal opportunity for all?

00:35:39
Because getting rid of this language allows for the exact

00:35:43
thing that they're trying to prevent, which is

00:35:46
discrimination, because if you're allowed to under the

00:35:49
California Constitution now discriminate based on race, sex,

00:35:52
national origin, or anything like that, when it comes to

00:35:55
public contracts and public work, you can.

00:35:59
Absolutely discriminate based on all those things and instead

00:36:04
people who are in power. So in this case people who are

00:36:08
in power, we have a democratic supermajority, a Democratic

00:36:11
governor, those people in power get to choose pick and choose

00:36:15
who are the winners and losers and.

00:36:19
Nothing and this is something that I think might be

00:36:21
infuriating to most people is instead of picking maybe the

00:36:24
best candidate for the job or the best contract for the job.

00:36:28
Or the best person for this government contract, they're now

00:36:31
going to pick based on identity politics.

00:36:36
Which if it comes to your tax dollars in California, is really

00:36:40
good at wasting your tax dollars.

00:36:42
As if there's an endless supply they are now not going to pick

00:36:45
on who has the best budget. Who has the best projection?

00:36:49
Who has the best proposal? Who can get it done faster?

00:36:52
Who has the best history of getting the job done?

00:36:55
Instead, they're going to start going out and awarding a lot of

00:36:59
these contracts based on identity politics.

00:37:04
Does that sound like that really makes any sense when it comes to

00:37:07
your tax dollars? I don't think so.

00:37:10
I think really it comes down to whoever is the best for the job,

00:37:13
regardless of skin color, regardless of ethnicity or sex

00:37:17
or national origin or anything like that, I don't think it

00:37:21
really should come down to any of that.

00:37:24
So the argument against Prop 16. Goes like this.

00:37:28
The California legislature wants you to strike these precious

00:37:30
words from our Constitution. We've already went over it.

00:37:33
Those words adopted by California voters in 1996 as

00:37:35
Prop 209. She remained firmly in place

00:37:37
only by treating everyone equally can estate as

00:37:39
brilliantly diverse as California be fair to everyone?

00:37:43
Repeal would be a step backward. Discrimination of this kind is

00:37:46
poisonous. It will divide a set of time we

00:37:48
desperately need to unite. Politicians want to give

00:37:50
preferential treatment to their favorites.

00:37:52
They think they can fix past discrimination against racial

00:37:55
minorities and women by discriminating against.

00:37:57
Other racial minorities and men who are innocent of any

00:38:01
wrongdoing. Punishing innocent people will

00:38:03
only cause a never ending cycle of resentment.

00:38:06
The only way to stop discrimination is to stop

00:38:08
discrimination. Not every Asian American or

00:38:12
white is advantage. Not every Latino or black is

00:38:15
disadvantaged. Our state has successful men and

00:38:17
women of all races and ethnicities.

00:38:19
Let's not perpetuate the stereotype that minorities and

00:38:21
women can't make it unless they get special preferences.

00:38:25
At the same time, our state has also has.

00:38:27
Men and women of all races and ethnicities who could use a

00:38:32
little extra break. Current law allows for

00:38:34
affirmative action of this kind. So as long as it doesn't

00:38:36
discriminate or get preferential treatment and it goes on to say

00:38:41
more about this, you can read the official ballot language

00:38:44
that you get in your books. But I agree with it, I agree

00:38:47
that it's at a certain point. I always wonder when identity

00:38:51
politics becomes no more than just insulting anybody of

00:38:55
different races or ethnicities or gender.

00:38:57
At that point, the idea that the left keeps selling well, you

00:39:01
can't be successful. If you're a woman, you can't be

00:39:04
successful. If you're Latino or black, you

00:39:06
can't be successful. If you're Asian or and it

00:39:09
becomes this idea of you literally look at people based

00:39:12
on their skin or their gender and make a whole determination

00:39:15
about their ability based on those things alone.

00:39:21
And in this case this is really it just so backwards to me that

00:39:27
they want to end discrimination by actually giving the

00:39:31
government power to discriminate.

00:39:33
Doesn't really make any sense to me, and again, it comes back to

00:39:37
the economics of it. It's not the person who's the

00:39:39
best for this government contract.

00:39:40
It is now going to be whoever they want to pick based on

00:39:44
identity politics. And maybe and I think if I were

00:39:49
someone I would want to know I got picked to be the best or I

00:39:53
got picked out of everybody else because I was the best.

00:39:57
I wouldn't want to know that I got picked because of my skin

00:39:59
color where I came from or my agenda or anything like that.

00:40:02
I don't want to know it was because my work was qualified to

00:40:06
be picked as the best, but going back to Jim's question about

00:40:11
this. My thought is this, even if this

00:40:14
does pass, because I think it's a crazy idea to even pass and

00:40:18
there's one of these things that I think it just came out so

00:40:22
wrong and so poorly worded, and there's really no reason for it

00:40:26
other than they want to be able to pick winners and losers based

00:40:29
on this new trend of identity politics.

00:40:33
If this does pass. It will as soon as someone gets

00:40:38
discriminated against, it will immediately go to federal court

00:40:41
and be probably struck down under the Equal protection

00:40:44
clause. So now if we are looking at a

00:40:47
Supreme Court that will be 6 to 3.

00:40:51
They will look at and say this is what the equal protection

00:40:53
Clause says. It was written to protect.

00:40:58
Obviously free slaves after the Civil War, but then it was

00:41:02
broadened throughout our history to protect people of race,

00:41:05
gender, ethnicity, stuff like that.

00:41:08
That's what the equal protection clause is for.

00:41:11
So if you can discriminate people based on that.

00:41:15
Let me go back. Sorry if California thinks they

00:41:19
can discriminate based on those characteristics, I would not

00:41:22
venture it. I would not be shocked for the

00:41:24
the lawyer who is licking their lips right now waiting for that

00:41:29
case to pop up where they get discriminated against and they

00:41:31
can be dragged into federal court for violating the 14th

00:41:34
amendment of the Constitution under the Equal Protection

00:41:36
clause because. I don't wanna get too wonky here

00:41:40
when it comes to constitutional law, but I like constitutional

00:41:44
law so this is me talking a little bit about it.

00:41:46
The Equal protection clause whenever you have these issues

00:41:49
of being discriminated or violating rights, there's always

00:41:52
these different tests. And I've talked about this

00:41:55
before, strict scrutiny, intermediate scrutiny, rational

00:41:57
basis, those are really the three tests under constitutional

00:42:01
law which they judge law statutes and actions.

00:42:04
In this specific case. Race is what we call a suspect

00:42:09
class, and whenever you discriminate and infringe on

00:42:12
someone's rights based on race, it has to pass a strict scrutiny

00:42:16
test. Strict scrutiny is absolutely

00:42:19
the hardest constitutional test that you can actually muster.

00:42:23
It is almost impossible to pass unless it's national security

00:42:27
and something that absolutely needs to be implemented for

00:42:31
national security. National security seems to Trump

00:42:33
everything, because if we can't protect our country.

00:42:37
And there's really no Constitution that's going to be

00:42:39
left afterwards if we can't protect our country, but race,

00:42:42
gender, national origin, stuff like that all falls under what

00:42:46
is called a suspect class and will trigger strict scrutiny.

00:42:49
So the minute this actually happens, and California is known

00:42:52
for taking the US Constitution and taking it more as a

00:42:55
suggestion rather than what is the law of the land, remember

00:42:59
that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

00:43:03
It overrides any state constitution.

00:43:05
That's why there's the supremacy clause in the US.

00:43:07
Constitution and. At the end of the day, someone's

00:43:12
going to get sued for an equal protection violation. 14th

00:43:16
amendment. That's what I think will happen.

00:43:18
So even if it does pass, I think there's still the fail safe of

00:43:22
that. The Equal protection clause of

00:43:24
the Constitution will protect and will eventually find out

00:43:27
that they can't do what they're doing, and they can't

00:43:30
discriminate based on race, and that they, the end of the day.

00:43:34
the US Constitution will inevitably drag them into court,

00:43:37
and that they will eventually lose, because it's almost.

00:43:40
A blatant case of, well, we have the equal protection clause,

00:43:43
which was created to protect the rights of those.

00:43:46
If your rights are infringed upon based on.

00:43:50
Race sexual all these things. Then at the end of the day, the

00:43:54
Equal protection Clause is going to supersede and override any of

00:43:58
these actions. So California is really kind of

00:44:02
asking for it in the sense they're almost begging for a

00:44:04
huge federal lawsuit under this. And like I said, there's going

00:44:08
to be an attorney who is licking their lips ready to go to sue

00:44:12
the state or whatever state agency over this.

00:44:15
And it's going to make headlines and.

00:44:18
But I also don't think it's actually going to pass.

00:44:21
If it does, it would be a shock to me, because I think there's a

00:44:24
lot of people who are more rational in that, like I said,

00:44:27
vote no on this. This is a ridiculous

00:44:29
proposition. This makes no sense at all.

00:44:32
They are trying to fight racism by introducing more racism into

00:44:37
the state of California and award contracts based on

00:44:39
identity politics rather than who is the best for the job.

00:44:43
So with that said to Jim, who asked the question, thank you

00:44:47
for that. Was like going over these

00:44:49
propositions with you, especially right before the

00:44:51
election and going to go over more on Wednesday with the live.

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I'll be taking next week off for the podcast.

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Less than a month away until we all vote for the next President.

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Whether we reelect President Trump or we go sleepy.

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Joe Biden. There's a lot happening in the

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last couple weeks and it's always a frantic mad dash until

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the end. And this week has been

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absolutely no exception. We talked last week about

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coronavirus and. President Trump has really

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bounced back from it pretty quickly.

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It's surprising to see not really surprising me.

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He's got the man and he never really.

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He never drank, never smoked. A little overweight, but he

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bounced back from it really quickly.

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He has the best care in the world because of the Walter Reed

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hospitals, and he's the president, so he gets the best

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care in the world. But he's bounced back.

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It looks like it's doctors are now saying you can go back out

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to public events on Saturday, and it sounds like that's what

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he plans on doing. There was a little bit about the

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VP debate, which I think that Mike Pence absolutely destroyed.

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He did better than I was expecting.

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I'm not gonna lie, he did way better than I was expecting.

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He was calm. He was cool, he's collected.

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He was like he was like a sniper as opposed to Trump's machine

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gun style. Trump is machine, he just.

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He will brute force where you down again and again and again

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when it comes to debate. While Mike Pence was calm, cool,

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collected. He did go over a little bit.

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I think he could have been a little bit more succinct in how

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he responded. Got to the point, because once

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the moderator got involved and started talking over them, it

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was kind of hard to hear what he was saying, but I think he

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landed a lot of strong blows against Kamala Harris and

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anybody who really watched that debate.

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Anybody who saw and was honest said it could say that Mike

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Pence came out. The winner of that debate.

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He came out a strong winner. And I think that's the reaction

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you're starting to see from the left.

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This week. Is that Kamala Harris did really

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poorly. She was not able to answer a lot

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of things. She was constantly on defense.

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Mike Pence did a great job putting her on defense the

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entire time and basically kept her honor her toes, and she

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really had no comeback. She was snarky.

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She was her typical Kamala herself.

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She was the little cringy she tried to get some of those one

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liners in that she always has. She always works.

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She thinks she was going to get a snippet like the one part

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where she said I'm speaking and Mike Pence said.

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Well then you should speak the truth.

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I think he took a lot of air out of a lot of those.

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Moments with that. Kamala Harris usually looks for

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if you remember back to. In the debates when she tried to

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catch Joe off with that, yes, we can line about.

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Instead of saying no, we can't. Why don't we say yes, we can.

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It's a lot of these presidential debates you have.

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These people who are already geared up.

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They know that maybe their opponents going to walk into a

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sort of line of questioning or an answer, and they get it all

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geared up. Which is kind of like attorneys

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do anyway. Good attorneys already know how

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they're going to lead their opposing party or the opposing

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counsel, and they get them. Sort of where they want them,

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and then they can kind of hit them with that that knockout

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punch, but I don't think Kamala Harris really laid that that

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punch. I don't think she ever did.

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I think Mike Pence did a great job pushing back on her.

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He was the. It's a perfect antidote to

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Trump's craziness. The first time I think he did a

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great job explaining the record and putting them on defense and

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the fact that he was able to get her to not answer three times.

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Not once twice, but three times to packing the Supreme Court.

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And they for some reason don't seem to want to answer it.

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And when you ask, people say, well why won't they answer it?

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They don't. They don't want to tell you well

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why should we answer it? Trump won't denounce white

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supremacy. OK, well we're going to go back

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to the same old. Trump won't denounce white

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supremacists again and again. Again, that seems to always be

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their fall back. Why won't Trump denounce white

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supremacists and Neo Nazis, even though we've all seen the videos

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they've been flying around social media that Trump has been

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denouncing white supremacists. And Neo Nazis hate groups for

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decades. And every time he's presented

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with it, he always denounces them.

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He always disavows him. He disavowed David Duke as soon

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as he got his endorsement. The Charlottesville hoax.

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That's what I really knew that she was losing, and I think

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that's sort of emblematic of where the left is right now.

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And I saw someone make a good point that they wouldn't be

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invoking the 25th Amendment right now.

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If they were killing it in the polls that their internal polls

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must be showing them something that they don't really like,

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which is why they have to get the attention off of the Kamala

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Harris's performance and instead on the 25th Amendment.

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Or the fact that Trump still has coronavirus.

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Or can he go back out with the coronavirus?

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It's now become. They're trying to distract you

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from everything that's going on. There is a huge declassification

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which they're trying to get your attention away from.

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The declassification of documents involving Obamacare or

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Spygate or Russiagate or whatever you want to call it.

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At this point, I think at this point they see something in the

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internal polls that shows that maybe Joe Biden does not have a

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path to victory. And disregard the national polls

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at this point. Because at this point, the

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national polls. Are just that they are a poll

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the nation, but you don't win the presidency on a national

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popular vote. You win the Presidency by

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winning state by state by state, and you have to look at the

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battleground states where Trump will likely have his path to

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victory and I think it looks more beneficial to President

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Trump than it does Joe Biden. I don't think Joe Biden is going

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to win Florida. He's not going to win Ohio, and

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then it becomes a question of the other states.

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Pennsylvania the Rust Belt. And if Joe Biden doesn't win

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Pennsylvania and he loses Ohio and Florida, it's effectively

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done, and his night is over. Good shot, good try and

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President Trump will win. But The thing is, President

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Trump has to win by a lot this time because they are going to

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cry foul all the way until they get every single vote, or every

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box of mail in votes that they can get and shove in which.

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Infuriates me that they have now allowed for people to continue

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to drop off their ballots even after the election, which is

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crazy to me, that you can watch the results of the election and

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then still have days later, almost a whole week in some

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places to go out and still vote. So if you say Oh well, this

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person is down and this comes back to our talk about local

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elections. If you see someone who is

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winning on one night and then it turns around and they say, OK,

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well, we just need to get 800. Votes to flip this City Council

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seat or this county supervisor seat here in California that can

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make all the difference in accounting in a city in a

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mayoral race, and that's what it really comes down to.

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And that's what's scary is that they are waiting and they can

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hold back a lot of these ballots and then at the last minute go

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and ballot harvest or get as many as they want and turn the

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tide of the present or the elections locally, not

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necessarily presidential. I don't know if there's going to

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be that tight of a race. That presidentially that they're

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going to have to have this huge mail in vote, and if I think if

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it gets to that point where it looks like Trump has won by a

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lot of electoral votes and all of a sudden all these states

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start showing up with different ballots out of nowhere, this is

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one of the reasons why they kind of want to get Amy Coney Barrett

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on the Supreme Court. Not because she's politically a

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conservative, but mostly because she might adhere to the rule law

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that we have an election. This is our election.

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This is when the time stops. You're not supposed to vote

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after the election. There are plenty of safeguards

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in place. If you don't want to get Corona

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or you're scared about coronavirus, there are plenty of

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safeguards in place, and I think the idea that you can extend the

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election out farther and farther after the actual date is

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terrifying. For most people, it's terrifying

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for me because everyone there are a lot of people who are

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predicting this red mirage. Of it can look like President

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Trump wins on election night, but then as the votes trickle in

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mysteriously weeks after all of a sudden looks like Joe Biden

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can win. So that's why there needs to be

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a huge electoral landslide so that it just blows Joe Biden out

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of the water. And statistically there is no

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way for him to make up the ground without cheating without

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getting caught in court. And that's basically it, but.

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I think that this week they. Are starting to freak out.

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I think maybe they see the internal polls.

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Maybe they start to see what people are talking about.

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Maybe they start to see in their battleground states they're

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really losing a lot of votes and that they're losing a lot of

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support. I was watching Tim Pool and he

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was talking about this secret vote or the secret Trump vote

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majority that we all talk about and that one study came out and

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said that actually, there's probably 20% of people who are

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withholding telling polls that they are supporting President

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Trump. Now imagine that 20% swing in

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one way or the other and you have.

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If President Trump had that 20% swing, we're now looking at a

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runaway race and President Trump will win reelection easily.

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But I think that's why they're starting to go with this whole

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idea of the 25th Amendment. And now they're starting to

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build a Commission on it. Which great, we're gonna waste

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more tax dollars on a Commission to pay people to pay lobbyists

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and consultants and attorneys to kind of sit down and look at

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something that we already know long that a good constitutional

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scholar can tell you. In five to 10 minutes, but

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they're going to pay millions of dollars of your tax dollars to

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look at the 25th amendment, and whether it applies to President

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Trump. And this brings me to another

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point that I want to make opening up the show is that the

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Democrats and the left always seem to do these things that

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then eventually bite them in the ass.

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And the biggest example of that is with.

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What happened with Harry Reid getting rid of the filibuster?

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At the time it was politically advantageous for the Democrats

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and they were short sighted. Now you have.

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President Trump, who was able to confirm hundreds of judges, will

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be on his way to three Supreme Court judges because Amy Coney

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Barrett will be confirmed. Looks like they have the votes

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that it's all locked up that there's really nothing they can

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do to stop it. Unless there's a huge.

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Revolt on Amy Coney Barrett at the last minute, which I doubt

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because why would these Republicans turn their back on

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him? And now they're reaping.

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They're reaping what they sow. So now this whole idea of the

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25th amendment the 25th, they want to keep talking about the

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25th amendment. I hope this never comes to pass,

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but if for some reason Joe Biden does win the Presidency.

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Don't you think the Republicans are all of a sudden going to

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turn around and talk about the 25th amendment, don't you think

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they're going to plague Joe Biden with the 25th Amendment

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again and again and again? And they're going to make him

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basically a lame duck president the day he gets inaugurated.

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These are things that Democrats don't ever really see.

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They see it as politically advantageous right now, but they

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don't see it down the line and how it could come back to bite

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them in the ass. Do I think this is also just a

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play to get the attention off the debate?

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Sure, do I think that their internal polls might be showing

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that they're really in trouble? Also a possibility, because

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that's why they're freaking out. Do I think it's weird that the

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morning after Kamala Harris got so destroyed by Mike Pence?

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That all of a sudden, the debate Commission said, you know what?

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Next next debate is gonna be virtual.

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We're not even going to discuss it with the campaigns.

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Don't you think it's a little weird that that happened that

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they didn't actually wait until maybe later in the morning to

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discuss it with the campaigns? So that at first thing in the

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morning at 8:00 AM, they disclosed we're going to have a

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virtual debate and this is one of those art of the deal

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President Trump moments where he said OK, fine, you wanna have a

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virtual debate? I'm not gonna do it.

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I'll just go have a rally, who cares and he's done that before

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in the primaries. He skipped the debate and it

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actually ended up the people tuned more.

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Didn't really tune into that debate because they were missing

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President Trump. And then comes out a little bit

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later that they're actually going to postpone it.

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That it looks like it's just going to push everything back a

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little bit to allow President Trump to get his negative tests

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so that he doesn't have coronavirus.

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But all of this seems to be. Smoke bombs to sort of get

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people not on the. Focusing on different things,

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the Democrats really don't have a platform.

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They don't have a platform when it comes to national politics

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right now. I mean, they have a secret

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platform. They have a secret platform of

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socialism, higher taxes using climate change as an excuse to

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take over every sector of your life.

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Getting rid of the Second Amendment.

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These are all things that they secretly know that they want to

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do. That's their secret platform,

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but their public platform has to be different, just like why they

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have Joe Biden instead of Bernie Sanders running for president

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because Joe Biden is the nice, calm old grandfather who's a

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moderate guy. He thinks he's a tough guy from

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the streets of Scranton, PA. Even though he's mostly been in

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the Acela corridor his entire life.

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But that's their secret platform, and we saw it on

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display on Tuesday that there was no platform that Kamala

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Harris could really push, and Mike Pence did an incredible job

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bringing it back to the VP debate.

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Mike Pence did an incredible job pointing out that they don't

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have a record to stand on that their record is not great that

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their platform is contradictory, that they continue to say we

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don't support the green New Deal, and we won't ban fracking,

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and he was able to get. Were to say we were.

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We're not going to ban fracking, even though they're on tape,

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saying that they're going to ban fracking.

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The same thing with packing the Supreme Court.

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He was able to get her to not say anything about the Supreme

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Court and make it look like they're hiding the ball again.

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Name one policy that came out of Kamala Harris on Tuesday night.

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It's hard to say one. It's hard to say what they stand

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for. The same thing with the tax

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rates or the taxes. They tried to argue that they

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won't raise taxes on the middle class, but yet they turn around

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and say, well, we're going to repeal the President Trump's tax

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cuts. By doing so, you're raising

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taxes on virtually everybody. But they won't tell you that.

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Instead, they'll say, well, it's just over $400.

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See, there is really no platform for the Democratic Party that's

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go around and that's why I kind of am starting to feel better.

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The contrarian candidate usually never wins.

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For example. People say, well, there might be

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more people who are. Upset and want to get Trump out

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of office. And I'll say to you this.

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It wasn't that long ago. I'm old enough to remember.

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When John Kerry ran against George W Bush, now George W Bush

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at that time was a hated man. He was compared to Hitler.

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He was compared to an authoritarian to a tyrant, to a

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dictator. He was called an idiot.

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He was either a masterminding an idiot all at the same time.

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People hated him because of what he did with the wars in Iraq.

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The fact that they had implemented the Patriot Act,

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there was a lot of things that people didn't like about George

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W Bush. He was the devil Incarnate.

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He was the end of the Republic. Sound familiar?

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It's exactly what's going on today.

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The media is pushing that Trump is the end of the Republic that

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we're all going to crumble down if we don't elect.

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This Democratic candidate, that's the end of our country as

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we know it. But what happened in 2004 well?

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We all know how that happened. John Kerry, who was an

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establishment Democrat, had been around forever.

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A senator who had been around forever.

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Ran against George Bush and lost.

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Because outside I didn't really know what their platform was.

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Besides, I'm not George W Bush. Now Fast forward. 16 years

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later. You have another establishment,

00:17:05
old Democrat candidate. Who is running against a

00:17:10
incumbent Republican president? And the line is, I'm not Donald

00:17:16
Trump. Well, I'm not that guy, so you

00:17:19
better vote for me. I don't think it didn't work

00:17:23
then, and I don't think it will work now.

00:17:25
If you don't have anything to run on, people are probably just

00:17:28
going to sit this one out. People on the fringes, the

00:17:31
people who aren't really into it, are going to sit this one

00:17:33
out. And that's what it really comes

00:17:36
down to. Democrats need the enthusiasm to

00:17:40
get out the vote, and if they don't have the enthusiasm to get

00:17:43
out the vote, they don't have the platform to get out the

00:17:45
vote. They're going to lose.

00:17:50
As opposed to President Trump, who I think has a platform,

00:17:53
whether he articulates it or not in a certain way, I think he

00:17:58
stands for something that a lot of people are recognizing, and

00:18:01
it's not showing in the polls. I want to play a clip for you,

00:18:04
Victor Davis Hanson. He is a brilliant writer.

00:18:07
I always like listening to the Victor Davis Hanson.

00:18:09
I like reading his articles, he writes an American greatness.

00:18:11
He writes a lot on California politics, but this is

00:18:14
specifically him on Tucker Carlson talking about President

00:18:17
Trump. And the difference between him

00:18:21
and Biden after that we're going to get into.

00:18:25
And more California stuff. I promise we're going to get

00:18:28
this more California stuff. We're going to talk about the

00:18:30
$35 million contract that was rejected by a state controller

00:18:33
that we discussed a couple of weeks ago.

00:18:35
And we're also going to talk about Prop 16 today and how that

00:18:39
violates the Constitution. But first, let's hear this clip

00:18:42
and reflect on what Victor Davis Hanson says about the difference

00:18:46
between Trump and Biden. So thanks for coming out.

00:18:50
What what did you make of that debate?

00:18:54
Well, it was pretty clear what their strategy is and you hit on

00:18:57
a lot of the points is that they're going to talk about

00:19:00
race, and they're going to talk about Trump as a mass killer,

00:19:03
and that means they're not going to answer any questions about

00:19:07
tracking a new Green Deal or packing the cord or who they

00:19:10
would appoint because they are elite leftist, who have made a

00:19:15
bargain with desperate hardcore socialists and are not allowed

00:19:19
to speak that even AOC kind of is in the deal.

00:19:22
She's had a little anemic. We have actually fracking's kind

00:19:25
of bad so they know where they're allowed to go and

00:19:28
whether or not and that and that they take kind of a cue from

00:19:31
Barack Obama guy who went to prep school, grew up in an upper

00:19:34
middle class. Grandmother was a bank official,

00:19:37
and then he told us he was part of the underclass and he had

00:19:40
been a victim of racism. And then he was actually a

00:19:43
moderate. He was going to balance the

00:19:44
budget. He wasn't going to let China be

00:19:46
in debt. We weren't going to be in debt

00:19:47
to China anymore. He said that he was opposed to

00:19:51
gay marriage. He was going to close the

00:19:52
border, and we know where that would he had the most liberal.

00:19:55
Voting record like Kamala Harris almost in the Senate.

00:19:58
So we know what they're doing. They won't talk, they won't

00:20:00
discuss and then what's the tactical manner in which they

00:20:04
carry out that strategy? I think it's triple they're

00:20:06
going to stay in seclusion because they feel that these

00:20:10
polls are accurate and they're going to do a run out the clock

00:20:13
and not get any controversial statement and then play it

00:20:17
because they're not authentic. People play as if it's good old

00:20:20
Kamala who grew up in Oakland when actually her parents were

00:20:23
PhD. She lived a pretty privileged.

00:20:26
And lifestyle and good old Joel from Scranton.

00:20:28
The working class guy who became a multimillionaire after 5

00:20:31
decades in government. And they're not gonna come out.

00:20:34
And they're not gonna say anything that's controversial.

00:20:37
Joe, you that quote from Joe Biden proved that and then

00:20:40
second, they're going to outsource this to the media and

00:20:43
the Pelosi Democrats. So every four or five days we're

00:20:46
going to get that. Donald Trump insulted the war

00:20:49
dead or he didn't and they were all encapsulated in Kamala

00:20:52
Harris's talking points. Or he didn't bring up the

00:20:56
Assassin's. With Putin, who were after our

00:20:58
soldiers in Afghanistan or Trump called the the coronavirus a

00:21:03
hoax, which we know even liberal fact checkers have rejected.

00:21:06
Or he said something that Charlottesville and that that's

00:21:09
going to be and right before the coronavirus struck Trump, we

00:21:12
were in the melanias trusted friend, actually taped her phone

00:21:16
call. That was a three day cycle

00:21:18
drama, and now it's Nancy. Now it's the turn of Nancy

00:21:21
Pelosi today say 25th amendment. He's crazy and so that's what

00:21:25
the media's role is. And then.

00:21:27
And then you can see finally these, I'll be Frank Tucker.

00:21:30
The moderators have a modus operandi.

00:21:33
They always have the gotcha question for Trump.

00:21:36
Didn't you say something about not accepting the election?

00:21:40
Didn't you say something that Charlottesville didn't you?

00:21:43
And then to the other side, it's we're not going to ask you

00:21:46
anything about you ain't black or you insulted an African

00:21:49
American journalist and call him basically a junkie and a cocaine

00:21:53
user. Or why Kamala did you call Joe

00:21:56
Biden right? No embarrassing.

00:21:58
Questions like that, so that's what they're hoping at and then

00:22:01
it it begs the question, what's Trump to do about this when he's

00:22:04
it's a 360 degree opponents in the celebrities in the academic

00:22:09
world and intellectuals and the wealthy and the elite of Silicon

00:22:14
Valley and Wall Street? I think he's got a.

00:22:16
He's got to emphasize that this election is on class.

00:22:19
It's not on race. There's 100 million people.

00:22:22
Muscular people are out there every day, taking a risk that

00:22:25
they're going to be infected. Why they serve you, it's.

00:22:28
At a store, or they bring your DoorDash food your curbside?

00:22:31
Or are they bring your oven when it blows up from Home Depot or

00:22:36
they're trucking all night or they're producing food?

00:22:39
Are there farming? And yes, they don't always have

00:22:41
the correct mask and maybe they don't social distance, but

00:22:43
they're keeping the country going for whom the zoom and the

00:22:47
Skype class that are in their bike, basements, telemarketing

00:22:50
or teleworking or whatever they do.

00:22:52
And making a lot of money and then hectoring everybody that

00:22:55
they're politically incorrect. Or they're racist or their mask.

00:22:58
An inch too small or they were one foot closer and Trump's got

00:23:02
to say, you know, I'm I'm one with these people, I I wanna

00:23:05
frack because that frees us from these middle Middle East

00:23:09
quagmires and it gives your kids good wages and doesn't send your

00:23:12
kid to Afghanistan or Iraq. I want to get out of the Green

00:23:15
Deal because I want you to have a job.

00:23:17
I don't want a bunch of elites in the Bay Area to tell you how

00:23:19
to live your life so it's got to be a class of argument and I

00:23:22
think he can say I'm one with you and I did.

00:23:24
I don't have any apologies for getting sick.

00:23:26
That's what the president is supposed to do.

00:23:27
You're supposed to take risk. Meet foreign leaders.

00:23:30
Bring individuals into the White House, crisscrossed the country.

00:23:34
Yeah, even have a rally. I'm not and you know what.

00:23:36
When I get sick I'm gonna take risks by taking experimental

00:23:39
drugs if I have to get back on the job.

00:23:41
I am not going to stay in my basement and quarantine myself

00:23:45
and isolate myself and pass judgments on others that you're

00:23:48
not willing to take. The same risk.

00:23:49
I think that argument is going to appeal.

00:23:51
A lot of people are getting tired of the sort of the sort of

00:23:54
things that you outlined tonight.

00:23:56
Well, I certainly am the people who benefited the most from the

00:23:59
country seem to despise. The most which is unsustainable.

00:24:02
Professor Vic Jeff Hansen. Great to see you tonight.

00:24:04
Thank you. Victor Davis Hanson.

00:24:08
Like I said, it is a I think a smart guy.

00:24:10
He's very smart guy. He's always well spoken his

00:24:13
writing. If you ever get a chance, he

00:24:14
writes a lot for American greatness.

00:24:16
Just look him up, but I think he nails it on the head.

00:24:19
The real difference here between Trump and Biden, and it's the

00:24:24
difference of Trump wants to stand for the people who want to

00:24:27
get back to work who want to continue to live their lives and

00:24:31
follow these common sense ideas, or these policies of I want to

00:24:35
get to fracking because it's going to provide energy into.

00:24:38
Pendants and these ideas that I want to help you get back to

00:24:41
work because we can't live in our basement forever.

00:24:45
And we've seen in 2020 the rise of this Heckler, the basement

00:24:48
Heckler, and it's been everybody who's lectured everybody about

00:24:53
masks or going out. Or if you want to go to a

00:24:56
restaurant or if you want to go back to your job or anything

00:24:59
like that, we've seen the rise of that Heckler, the person who

00:25:02
is safe in their home, who is the techie, who has a

00:25:05
teleworking job or someone who doesn't have to worry about

00:25:09
actually going to a brick and mortar store has been heckling

00:25:12
everybody else on what to do. Now I think at this point

00:25:15
there's been a lot of people pushing back.

00:25:18
I think it will end up in the polls.

00:25:20
You'll see a lot of people secretly say.

00:25:22
I just want to go back to life. I'll take the risk.

00:25:26
I believe I can take the personal responsibility to do

00:25:29
what I need to do and that really, if we're boiling it down

00:25:33
to the most simple of principles.

00:25:35
That's really what this is all about.

00:25:37
Is. Do you believe in personal

00:25:40
responsibility and freedom and taking risks?

00:25:43
Which is really what this country is built on, is the idea

00:25:46
of taking risks. Putting yourself out there.

00:25:49
Maybe you're going to get harmed economically physically or

00:25:52
whatever. Or are you going to allow an

00:25:56
elite ruling class to tell you what to do for the rest of your

00:25:59
life? And that's I think the message

00:26:02
that's the closing argument that the Trump campaign really has to

00:26:05
make heading into these final weeks is do you want this where

00:26:10
you have? Blue check, Twitter mobs and the

00:26:15
coastal elites telling you what to do with your life.

00:26:19
Or do you want to decide what to do with your life?

00:26:23
And that's what it really comes down to.

00:26:26
So now I've talked about that. I did want to talk a little bit

00:26:30
about this article. We had discussed a couple of

00:26:33
weeks ago about the $35 million contract that was paid for with

00:26:37
taxpayer money that was awarded to a Biden PR firm.

00:26:42
Now it wasn't. I should say it's not a.

00:26:45
PR firm that's owned by Joe Biden.

00:26:47
But it is the PR firm that works with Team Biden and the issue,

00:26:50
and I will bring it up real quickly.

00:26:53
The issue you could imagine is that this contract is was this

00:26:56
PR firm contract was entered into with the Secretary of State

00:27:01
Alex Padilla as a part of the Get out the vote.

00:27:06
PR marketing campaign now tell me doesn't it sound a little odd

00:27:12
that you would give $35 million to a PR marketing firm that is

00:27:18
Team Biden? And is all about get out the

00:27:22
vote so you don't think that get out the vote PR campaign is

00:27:25
going to be a little skewed and not only that, it's $35 million

00:27:28
up our tax dollars that Alex Padilla has paid to them.

00:27:33
But in a move that was great. See.

00:27:37
Earlier this week around Tuesday.

00:27:42
That state controller, Betty Yee, had rejected the contract

00:27:45
with SKD Knickerbocker, a Washington DC based public

00:27:49
affairs firm Who's managing director is Anita Don, a senior

00:27:52
adviser on Joe Biden's presidential campaign and White

00:27:54
House communications director under President Barack Obama.

00:27:59
California Republican Party chairwoman Jessica Milan A

00:28:02
Patterson said this it's disgraceful of Californians and

00:28:06
the state that the state controller had to explain to

00:28:08
Secretary Padilla that he has no budget authority to make this

00:28:11
wasteful and completely parse and $35 million expenditure and

00:28:15
had to step in to protect the integrity of our election

00:28:17
system. And it's even worse.

00:28:19
That governor Gavin Newsom has remained silent when the

00:28:21
integrity of our election was in jeopardy.

00:28:23
For a headline chasing politician like Gavin Newsom to

00:28:26
not comment about this person contract.

00:28:28
This is the question of his potential knowledge and

00:28:30
involvement. It goes to say.

00:28:35
Goes on to talk about how the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers

00:28:38
Association was a part of it. Basically it's a win for

00:28:43
California taxpayers, and the fact that we didn't that we

00:28:45
avoided spending $35 million. So good news, I'll keep you

00:28:53
updated. As always, I like to keep

00:28:54
following up on these stories because just giving you the one

00:28:57
detail or the one new story doesn't always provide you the

00:29:01
full scope because these things actually continue to happen over

00:29:05
the course of time as next thing I want to talk about Prop 16 and

00:29:09
this was brought on by a listener question as always, you

00:29:13
can call in and ask questions to the podcast.

00:29:16
You can go to anchor dot FM California underground.

00:29:20
There is a button to leave a message and just like calling

00:29:23
into a radio show, you can go online.

00:29:26
You need to do it real easy right from your phone.

00:29:28
You can do it as many times as you want to make sure your

00:29:30
message is correct, so let you listen to this question and then

00:29:34
we'll talk more about Prop 16. Hi Phil, this is Jim from

00:29:38
Sunnyvale, CA. I'm reading the text for Prop 16

00:29:43
and it says they want to allow the use of skin color in hiring

00:29:49
for. State jobs for contracts for the

00:29:52
state and for admission to state schools.

00:29:55
This. To me this sounds like racism

00:29:56
straight up and I have a question as a lawyer.

00:30:00
Do you have any idea how Prop 16 would be implemented?

00:30:03
Would we all have to take 23andMe style genetic tests so

00:30:08
the state would know which racial category we belong to?

00:30:10
Would we as citizens be given laminated cards like CDLS that

00:30:15
listed our racial identity Tang? I still recall the days when

00:30:19
South African apartheid and race.

00:30:20
Policies were bad, not how to manual?

00:30:25
So excellent question. Thank you Jim for calling in or

00:30:29
leaving a voice message. It's always I like to hear other

00:30:31
people calling, so make sure if you want to or you have a

00:30:34
question you wanna be discussed. You can control what we talked

00:30:37
about on the podcast. So props 16 is the proposition

00:30:41
that looks to strike a provision from the California Constitution

00:30:44
regarding discrimination based on race.

00:30:48
It's not only race, but it's a whole bunch of other things as

00:30:50
well. So this is part of the

00:30:52
California Constitution and perhaps. 16 looks to amend the

00:30:57
California Constitution by basically striking out section

00:31:00
31 of Article one that states that the state shall not

00:31:04
discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to any

00:31:07
individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity

00:31:10
or national origin in the operation of public employment,

00:31:13
public education, or public contracting.

00:31:16
This section shall apply only to action taken after the section

00:31:19
is effective date. Nothing in this section shall be

00:31:20
interpreted as prohibiting bona fide qualifications based on sex

00:31:23
which are reasonably necessary to the formal.

00:31:26
Operation. That goes on his talk about

00:31:30
remedies available for violations of the section shall

00:31:32
be the same regardless of the intra parties race, sex,

00:31:34
ethnicity, or national origin as or otherwise available for

00:31:37
violations that then existing. So that's really what it is

00:31:42
looking to do is to strike all that from the California

00:31:46
Constitution so. Basically what it is doing is

00:31:51
allowing discrimination based on all these areas in the public

00:31:56
sector so. Let's go back here because there

00:32:02
is a site and of course, as always I do post the link.

00:32:05
So if you want it's called stop prop16.org and they have a lot

00:32:09
of stuff about Prop 16 you can go there.

00:32:11
Obviously I'm going to come out. I'm not going to hide the ball

00:32:13
on this one. This is a strong no for me.

00:32:16
This doesn't really make any sense.

00:32:18
I'm not really sure why they think this is a good idea.

00:32:23
For one thing, this is their. This is their argument in favor

00:32:26
of Prop 16, which if it makes sense to you, let me know yes on

00:32:32
Prop 16 means equal opportunity for all Californians.

00:32:35
All of us deserve equal opportunities to thrive with

00:32:37
fair wages, good jobs and quality schools.

00:32:40
Despite living in the most diverse state in the nation,

00:32:42
white men are still overrepresented in positions of

00:32:45
wealth and power in California. OK, so we're going right after

00:32:48
the white met, not even hiding the ball in that one.

00:32:51
Although women, especially women of color.

00:32:53
On the front lines of the COVID-19 response, they are not

00:32:55
rewarded for their sacrifices. Women should have the same

00:32:58
chance of success as men today. Nearly all public contracts in

00:33:03
the jobs that go with them go to large companies run by older

00:33:07
white men. White women make $0.80 on the

00:33:11
dollar. The wage disparity is even worse

00:33:13
for women of color in single moms.

00:33:15
As a result, an elite few are able to hoard wealth instead of

00:33:20
investing it back into communities.

00:33:21
Prop 16 opens up contracting. Opportunities for women and

00:33:24
people of color. We know that small businesses

00:33:27
are the backbone of our economy. At Main Street businesses owned

00:33:30
by women and people of color lose over 1.1 looks like

00:33:33
trillion dollars. Sorry million billion dollars.

00:33:37
One point 1 billion. I always like Joe Biden.

00:33:39
Million trillion billion, $1.1 billion in government contracts

00:33:42
every year because of the current law.

00:33:44
We need to support those small businesses, especially as we

00:33:46
rebuild from COVID-19 with wealth will be invested back

00:33:49
into our communities. Yes, on Prop 16 helps build

00:33:53
California stronger. This fair opportunities for all.

00:33:55
Yes on Prop 16 means supporting women and women of color who

00:33:59
served as proportionately as essential caregivers.

00:34:01
Frontline workers during COVID-19 expand access to solid

00:34:04
wages, creating opportunities for women and women, improving

00:34:07
access to quality education. Both K through 12 schools and

00:34:10
higher education for all Calvin kids.

00:34:11
Taking action to prevent discrimination and ensure

00:34:14
equality for all. So that's their argument in

00:34:19
favor of Prop 16. Like I said, if you can decipher

00:34:25
what that really means. Then please explain it to me

00:34:29
because that argument seems to be all over the map.

00:34:32
Of course it seems like it was written by someone off the

00:34:35
politics subreddit. It goes right into attacking the

00:34:38
old. The Boogeyman that is older

00:34:41
white men and white men in general.

00:34:43
And it says that somehow this law by getting rid of this will

00:34:47
improve wages for women and women of color.

00:34:51
And then it even goes on to say that it will access more better

00:34:55
jobs. Quality schools.

00:34:57
Again, I'm not really sure. Quality schools have anything to

00:35:00
do with this, but when you have a proposition that is really bad

00:35:03
on the core, what's the best thing you can do?

00:35:06
Throw something about schools in there and this is always a dead

00:35:10
giveaway when they try and go heavy on the kids in the schools

00:35:12
that doesn't really have anything to do with the

00:35:14
proposition. It's usually a good sign that

00:35:16
they're trying to slip 1 by you and make you think.

00:35:20
Oh, this sounds good. It's for the children.

00:35:22
It's for children in schools, when in reality you have to look

00:35:25
at it. And the ironic thing is that at

00:35:28
the end. Say taking action to prevent

00:35:30
discrimination, ensure equal opportunity for all, which it

00:35:33
doesn't. How does Prop 16 ensure equal

00:35:38
opportunity for all? Because getting rid of this

00:35:40
language allows for the exact thing that they're trying to

00:35:45
prevent, which is discrimination, because if

00:35:48
you're allowed to under the California Constitution now

00:35:51
discriminate based on race, sex, national origin, or anything

00:35:54
like that, when it comes to public contracts and public

00:35:57
work, you can. Absolutely discriminate based on

00:36:01
all those things and instead people who are in power.

00:36:06
So in this case people who are in power, we have a democratic

00:36:09
supermajority, a Democratic governor.

00:36:12
Those people in power get to choose pick and choose who are

00:36:16
the winners and losers and. Nothing and this is something

00:36:20
that I think might be infuriating to most people is

00:36:23
instead of picking maybe the best candidate for the job or

00:36:26
the best contract for the job. Or the best person for this

00:36:29
government contract, they're now going to pick based on identity

00:36:35
politics. Which if it comes to your tax

00:36:38
dollars in California, is really good at wasting your tax

00:36:42
dollars. As if there's an endless supply

00:36:44
they are now not going to pick on who has the best budget.

00:36:47
Who has the best projection? Who has the best proposal?

00:36:50
Who can get it done faster? Who has the best history of

00:36:53
getting the job done? Instead, they're going to start

00:36:57
going out and awarding a lot of these contracts based on

00:37:00
identity politics. Does that sound like that really

00:37:06
makes any sense when it comes to your tax dollars?

00:37:09
I don't think so. I think really it comes down to

00:37:12
whoever is the best for the job, regardless of skin color,

00:37:15
regardless of ethnicity or sex or national origin or anything

00:37:19
like that, I don't think it really should come down to any

00:37:22
of that. So the argument against Prop 16.

00:37:27
Goes like this. The California legislature wants

00:37:29
you to strike these precious words from our Constitution.

00:37:31
We've already went over it. Those words adopt by California

00:37:34
voters in 1996 as Prop 209. She remained firmly in place

00:37:37
only by treating everyone equally can estate as

00:37:39
brilliantly diverse as California.

00:37:41
To be fair to everyone, repeal would be a step.

00:37:44
Backward. Discrimination of this kind is

00:37:46
poisonous. It will divide us at a time we

00:37:48
desperately need to unite. Politicians want to give

00:37:50
preferential treatment to their favorites.

00:37:52
They think they can fix past discrimination against racial

00:37:55
minorities and women by discriminating against.

00:37:58
Other racial minorities and men who are innocent of any

00:38:01
wrongdoing. Punishing innocent people will

00:38:03
only cause a never ending cycle of resentment.

00:38:06
The only way to stop discrimination is to stop

00:38:08
discrimination. Not every Asian American or

00:38:12
white is advantage. Not every Latino or black is

00:38:15
disadvantaged. Our state has successful men and

00:38:17
women of all races and ethnicities.

00:38:19
Let's not perpetuate the stereotype that minorities and

00:38:21
women can't make it unless they get special preferences.

00:38:25
At the same time, our state has also, as men and women.

00:38:28
Laurie says and ethnicities who could use a little extra break.

00:38:33
Current law allows for affirmative action of this kind,

00:38:36
so as long as it doesn't discriminate or get preferential

00:38:38
treatment and it goes on to say more about this, you can read

00:38:42
the official ballot language that you get in your books.

00:38:45
But I agree with it, I agree that it's at a certain point.

00:38:50
I always wonder when identity politics becomes no more than

00:38:53
just insulting anybody of different races or ethnicities

00:38:56
or gender on that point. The idea that the left keeps

00:39:00
selling well, you can't be successful if you're a woman,

00:39:04
you can't be successful. If you're Latino or black, you

00:39:06
can't be successful. If you're Asian or and it

00:39:09
becomes this idea of you literally look at people based

00:39:12
on their skin or their gender and make a whole determination

00:39:15
about their ability based on those things alone.

00:39:21
And in this case this is really it just so backwards to me that

00:39:27
they want to end discrimination by actually giving the

00:39:31
government power to discriminate.

00:39:33
Doesn't really make any sense to me, and again, it comes back to

00:39:37
the economics of it. It's not the person who's the

00:39:39
best for this government contract.

00:39:40
It is now going to be whoever they want to pick based on

00:39:44
identity politics. And maybe and I think if I were

00:39:49
someone I would want to know I got picked to be the best or I

00:39:53
got picked out of everybody else because I was the best.

00:39:57
I wouldn't want to know that I got picked because of my skin

00:39:59
color where I came from or my agenda or anything like that.

00:40:02
I don't want to know it was because my work was qualified to

00:40:06
be picked as the best, but going back to Jim's question about

00:40:11
this. My thought is this, even if this

00:40:14
does pass, because I think it's a crazy idea to even pass and

00:40:18
there's one of these things that I think it just came out so

00:40:22
wrong and so poorly worded, and there's really no reason for it

00:40:26
other than they want to be able to pick winners and losers based

00:40:29
on this new trend of identity politics.

00:40:33
If this does pass. It will as soon as someone gets

00:40:38
discriminated against, it will immediately go to federal court

00:40:41
and be probably struck down under the Equal protection

00:40:44
clause. So now if we are looking at a

00:40:47
Supreme Court that will be 6 to 3.

00:40:51
They will look at and say this is what the equal protection

00:40:53
Clause says. It was written to protect.

00:40:58
Obviously free slaves after the Civil War, but then it was

00:41:02
broadened throughout our history to protect people of race,

00:41:05
gender, ethnicity, stuff like that.

00:41:08
That's what the equal protection clause is for.

00:41:11
So if you can discriminate people based on that.

00:41:15
Let me go back. Sorry if California thinks they

00:41:19
can discriminate based on those characteristics, I would not

00:41:22
venture it. I would not be shocked for the

00:41:24
lawyer who is licking their lips right now waiting for that case

00:41:29
to pop up where they get discriminated against and they

00:41:31
can be dragged into federal court for violating the 14th

00:41:34
amendment of the Constitution under the Equal Protection

00:41:36
clause because. I don't wanna get too wonky here

00:41:40
when it comes to constitutional law, but I like constitutional

00:41:44
law so this is me talking a little bit about it.

00:41:46
The Equal protection clause whenever you have these issues

00:41:49
of being discriminated or violating rights, there's always

00:41:52
these different tests. And I've talked about this

00:41:55
before, strict scrutiny, intermediate scrutiny, rational

00:41:57
basis, those are really the three tests under constitutional

00:42:01
law which they judge law statutes and actions.

00:42:04
In this specific case. Race is what we call a suspect

00:42:09
class, and whenever you discriminate and infringe on

00:42:12
someone's rights based on race, it has to pass a strict scrutiny

00:42:16
test. Strict scrutiny is absolutely

00:42:19
the hardest constitutional test that you can actually muster.

00:42:23
It is almost impossible to pass unless it's national security

00:42:27
and something that absolutely needs to be implemented for

00:42:31
national security. National security seems to Trump

00:42:33
everything, because if we can't protect our country.

00:42:37
And there's really no Constitution that's going to be

00:42:39
left afterwards if we can't protect our country, but race,

00:42:42
gender, national origin, stuff like that all falls under what

00:42:46
is called a suspect class and will trigger strict scrutiny.

00:42:49
So the minute this actually happens, and California is known

00:42:52
for taking the US Constitution and taking it more as a

00:42:55
suggestion rather than what is the law of the land, remember

00:42:59
that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

00:43:03
It overrides any state constitution.

00:43:05
That's why there's the supremacy clause in the US.

00:43:07
Constitution and. At the end of the day, someone's

00:43:12
going to get sued for an equal protection violation. 14th

00:43:16
amendment. That's what I think will happen.

00:43:18
So even if it does pass, I think there's still the fail safe of

00:43:22
that. The Equal protection clause of

00:43:24
the Constitution will protect and will eventually find out

00:43:27
that they can't do what they're doing, and they can't

00:43:30
discriminate based on race, and that they, the end of the day.

00:43:34
the US Constitution will inevitably drag them into court,

00:43:37
and that they will eventually lose because it's almost a

00:43:40
blatant. Case of, well, we have the equal

00:43:42
protection clause which was created to protect the rights of

00:43:45
those. If your rights are infringed

00:43:47
upon based on. Race sexual all these things.

00:43:52
Then at the end of the day, the Equal protection Clause is going

00:43:55
to supersede and override any of these actions.

00:43:59
So California is really kind of asking for it.

00:44:03
In this sense, they're almost begging for a huge federal

00:44:05
lawsuit under this. And like I said, there's going

00:44:08
to be an attorney who is licking their lips ready to go to sue

00:44:12
the state or whatever state agency over this.

00:44:15
And it's going to make headlines and.

00:44:18
But I also don't think it's actually going to pass.

00:44:21
If it does, it would be a shock to me, because I think there's a

00:44:24
lot of people who are more rational in that, like I said,

00:44:27
vote no on this. This is a ridiculous

00:44:29
proposition. This makes no sense at all.

00:44:32
They are trying to fight racism by introducing more racism into

00:44:37
the state of California and award contracts based on

00:44:39
identity politics rather than who is the best for the job.

00:44:43
So with that said to Jim, who asked the question, thank you

00:44:47
for that. I was like going over these

00:44:49
propositions with you, especially right before the

00:44:51
election and going to go over more on Wednesday with the live.

00:44:56
I'll be taking next week off for the podcast.

00:44:57
So next week on the live at 9:00 AM on every Wednesday, it's

00:45:00
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00:45:03
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00:45:06
propositions, but until then, thank you for tuning in.

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