Episode 211 - Standing Up to the California Teacher's Association (w/ Special Guest Rebecca Friedrichs)

Episode 211 - Standing Up to the California Teacher's Association (w/ Special Guest Rebecca Friedrichs)

Phil and Camille bring you the latest discussion about all things California politics. and try their best to cut through the insanity of it all.


On this episode, we are joined by Rebecca Friedrichs, lead plaintiff in the case "Friedrichs vs. California Teachers Association" which went all the way to the Supreme Court. She is also the author of "Standing Up to Goliath" which discusses the abuses of the CTA and how much control they have over the state. #california #californiapolitics #teachersunion #publicschool


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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another

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episode of California underground podcast.

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I'm your host Phil along with my trusty co-host the best and

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fastest researcher in the west Camille.

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And tonight we have a very special guest on who has been

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fighting against one of the biggest evils in my opinion in

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California, which is the teachers unions who have gotten

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a little too big for their britches and a little too

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powerful Rebecca. Rebecca friedrichs, who was an

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author. She was an advocate and she's

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gone. On to the Supreme Court with a

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case, we're going to talk about all of that tonight.

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Rebecca, thank you for joining us.

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How are you tonight? I am so happy to be here.

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I'm great. Thanks for having me and I would

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say that the so-called teachers unions aren't really teachers at

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all. We can talk about that later,

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too. Excellent.

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So why don't you tell us a little bit about your backstory

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who you are. So people know who have never

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heard of you before so we can get started there.

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Sure thing. Well, I taught Elementary School

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for 28 years in Southern California.

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I would still be teaching if the classroom haven't gotten so

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corrupt by the Union's. I taught kindergarten through

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fourth grade. I miss my students so much.

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It hurts. Absolutely loved teaching knew.

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I wanted to be a teacher from age 12, And my husband also was

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a professor 42 years and both of us ran into something called the

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teacher unions that we were both forced to fund as a condition of

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employment. And the union was always one

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hundred percent of the time on the opposite spectrum of us as

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teachers. We wanted to do what was right

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for the students. We wanted to teach well, we

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wanted to work hard and the unions were on the opposite of

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that, they did things that were harmful to the children.

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Ha I'm full to our community to our country and they reward

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laziness and all kinds of problems.

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And they also are, were promoting a sexualized agenda,

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in our schools, a radical Marxist agenda in our schools.

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So my husband and I both ran headlong into that.

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So, I would say about a little more than halfway into my

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career. I decided to step up as a union

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rep, because I thought I have to pay these people.

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So, I might as well become a wrap and have a voice, and I was

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shocked. What I learned?

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The inside as a teacher rep for three years, I served on as the

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secretary on my local union. And what I discovered was that

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the local, the teachers agreed with me.

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They were good people, they cared about the kids.

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They didn't want to push a radical agenda.

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They didn't want their dues going to politics, but they were

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all too afraid and didn't know what to do to push back.

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So, I started pushing back and it was basic basically, like,

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banging my head against the wall.

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The Union's don't want to be reformed.

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They are who they are. There they are.

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A Socialist-slash-communist organization that does not

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represent teachers. They use teachers as pawns to

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fund a very radical agenda. And if you have some teachers

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out there tonight, I'm not talking about you, if you're a

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great teacher, we love you. And we want to help you to

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understand that you've been captured, your professions been

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captured by these unions. So because of that, after I

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served as a rep, it I found out that I couldn't make a

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difference from the inside because the unions didn't want

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to be changed. They bullied me.

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Self. They bullied the other teachers,

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who tried to make a difference on the inside?

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I've teacher friends who've been spit upon by union leaders.

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Booed off the platform, they walk try to walk back to their

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seat and be blocked by a big bully who man, you know, who

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would block their passage. So the unions are they use Mafia

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tactics to terrorize? Good teachers and so, because I

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couldn't make a difference as a union rep, and I couldn't

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couldn't, you know, stop their behavior.

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As a teacher, I started writing Ting editorials to expose them

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for who they really are started out in 2012.

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And then in 2013, we filed a lawsuit 10, California teachers.

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I was the lead plaintiff, our case was called friedrichs

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versus California. Teachers Association.

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We not only sued them, but we sued the Nea, the National

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Education Association and our locals.

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And we sued to stop forced unionism for all teachers and

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government employees in the United States of America.

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And eventually there was a win in June of 2018.

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So the Biggest news flash, you need to know is if you're in a

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government Union, you don't have to pay them anymore.

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And your government Union is most likely using your dues to

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push a very radical agenda. That is your very most likely

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against and the gender that harms children, and that is

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against our liberties. So, so, that's that's the quick

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story. It's not a funny story as a

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horrible story, as I said, I've been reading your book and but

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I'm hoping you'll share what you can about some of those actual

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little stories that have happened a long.

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On the way that are horrific, there was there was one story

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that I was reading that sort of, kind of propelled you or one

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story in an article. It was regard.

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It was right around the like there was a recession and it was

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the Great Recession and like, all the teachers got together.

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And you said, hey, we're going to protect all the teachers by

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taking a pay cut and then the union said, what to you, too?

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Yeah, so I was a union rep at this time representing my fellow

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teachers. And it was during the Obama

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Administration with a horrible crash in the economy.

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And we were told that we weren't the the district was not going

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to lay off the ineffective. Teachers or the abusive

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teachers, they were going to lay off all the new teachers because

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the unions pushed for something called last in first out.

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So you could be the worst teacher in the district.

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You keep your job just because you've been there a long time,

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you could be an abuser and keep your job.

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So all these incredible teachers were about to lose their job.

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One of them had been my student teacher.

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Several of them, I had been mentoring three of them had

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together brought up, our district writing scores in

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fourth grade. Just he brought them up in a

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huge way. They should have been rewarded.

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They were all going to be laid off because of this downturn in

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the economy. So as their union rep, I went to

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the teachers on my campus and I said, hey, during a meeting.

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What do you think about taking a small pay cut?

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It was 3%. We were the highest paid

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District in the county at that time, Orange County.

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We can take a three percent pay cut it would save all.

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Jobs. Nobody would be laid off.

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If we keep class sizes down, we worked in a low-income District

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to Title One District. So this would be better for our

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students small class sizes and a lot of our families had taken

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pay cuts and had moved in with Grandma and Grandpa because they

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couldn't afford their rent. So I said, look, this is good

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PR. We're standing with our

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community, literally by taking a small, cut the teachers were

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with me. They said, yes, this is the

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right thing to do. So I took it to the union and

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literally, I nagged force. Six months, I'm a middle child

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of five. I connect, so over and over for

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six months, I was just, you know, look this is what the

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teachers want. This is good for the students.

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I talked to the superintendent, the district said they could do

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it. If we took this small cut, they

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can save all the jobs, the union, every time they said, oh

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no, the teachers don't want this.

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I said, you don't understand. I asked the teachers, I said,

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how about I write a Survey Monkey, you can send it to any

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email address. You want the teachers answer?

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Yes, we want to do this or know where we don't if 51 percent say

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no. I'll back off, I won't say

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another word but it's 51 percent say we want to take the small

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cut and save jobs and keep class sizes down and stand in

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solidarity with our community. Then we move forward.

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Do you know? They wouldn't let me make create

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that SurveyMonkey. They wouldn't take a vote, they

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wouldn't let us talk to the whole staff of the whole

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District about it. Here's what they said to me.

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The president of our Union said Rebecca, don't worry about those

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teachers, who are going to use lose their jobs, the Union's

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going to take care of them, we're going to give them a

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seminar on how How to get unemployment benefits?

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They were dead serious. These teachers were paying a

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thousand dollars a year to be represented by this supposed

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Union. And this Union allowed every one

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of those teachers to be laid off.

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One of them was pregnant lost your medical insurance.

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All of them were just totally demoralized.

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They thought why doesn't the district like they blamed it on

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the district? How come the district?

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And I said, whoa whoa whoa, it wasn't the district.

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It was your union. I was there.

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I tried to fight for you. That Union wouldn't go for it.

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The district went for it. 100%. Percent.

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So that's what the Union's really doing.

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They're chasing great, teachers out of the job, not standing in

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solidarity with teachers, you know, and it's just a moral and

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that's just one of a thousand stories.

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I could tell you that. I faced as a union rep or just

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as a teacher. I think we're speechless

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literally. Yeah, yeah.

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It's just crazy that they were like, you know, don't worry

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about it. Will, you know, have to worry

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about trying to save your jobs and then in the end they're

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like, actually just we're going to teach you how to get

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unemployment. So we're not actually going to

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save your jobs, you can go get unemployment talk to us a little

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bit about this Supreme Court case that I think really kind of

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elevated you and your. Cause what What happened there?

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Kind of explain, I read a little bit about it and this idea of

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like an agency shop or something like that with unions, explain a

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little bit of that so people know what was going on with

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that. Sure.

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So all teachers that were in a unionized school, which is

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basically all public schools in the United States and every

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government employee in a union and just so people have a good

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understanding. The DMV is unionized the VA, the

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CDC. You wonder why?

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They're so, Corrupt, they're unionized the doj.

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The FBI, you name the three letter agency.

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There's people within that agency that are unionized.

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So we have, you know, millions and millions of Americans are

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paying these government unions. And most of them are highly

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corrupt and so agency fees was Which is so corrupt.

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So there was a man, like myself, his name was mr.

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Abood and in 1977, he took a case to the US Supreme Court.

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He was a teacher and he sued Detroit Board of Education to

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try to stop union dues. He didn't want to be unionized,

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he wanted to do, what was right for the children.

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Well, he lost and the Supreme Court made a decision that well,

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mr. Abood is right.

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That people shouldn't have to fund the politics of the Union,

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but since the union has Monopoly, We bargaining control,

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by the way, they got the Monopoly bargaining control by

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asking for it and manipulating the system, the legislature, the

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judicial system to get that power to have the Monopoly

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bargaining control. So in other words, none of us

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can bargain for ourselves only be the union that's assigned to

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you can bargain for you, whether you like them or not.

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So the Supreme Court tried to to make it a split kind of in the

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decision they said the unions have a monopoly bargaining

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control so you have to Everyone has to pay them but you don't

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have to pay their politics that's not right.

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So we're going to create something called agency fees.

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Here's how it worked. So the union would tell you that

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nobody had to be a member and nobody had to pay dues.

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Well, technically, that was true, but everybody had to

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accept their representation and everybody had to pay agency

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fees. The difference between dues and

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fees. When I first started teaching

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was about $50 a years, was paying hundreds of dollars in

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dues, like 700 That time and saving about 50 being an agency

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fee. Payer, I had no vote, I couldn't

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go to meetings, I didn't have a voice, nothing but I still had

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to pay these people. So we thought that was a very

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corrupt system because the Supreme Court allowed the unions

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to decide what they're spending on politics and what they're not

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spending on politics and of course they said oh we're only

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spending this very small amount on politics while they're giving

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billions of dollars to Democrat campaigns all around the

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country. Tree.

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And the other thing we realized as employees was collective,

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bargaining itself in the public sector is political because when

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you're using taxpayer dollars, so I was paid by taxpayers as a

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teacher and the my dues then were paid by taxpayers.

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And when you're using taxpayer dollars to make decisions on how

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much teachers are going to pay be paid or how much is going to

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go into the school budget, instead of a park or, you know,

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whatever, whatever the the cat. Taxpayer dollars are being used

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toward. That's a political decision.

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So our argument was one hundred percent of government employee.

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Dues are political are being used for political purposes.

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So I first started, as I said, writing editorials, to expose

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the Union's for who they really are because they don't really

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represent teachers or other government employees.

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They're just a massive political path.

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Basically. And, you know, use use us and

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The government funding, that pays us to bring great damage to

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the country. So we decided to bring a case

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and move it toward the US Supreme Court in order to

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overturn that 1977 abood decision.

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So abood became president so no court in the country can rule

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against the boobs. So no one could free anybody

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from Forced agency fees or forced pain, forced union, dues

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unless the Supreme Court overturned, Turned that

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precedent. It's very rare for the Supreme

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Court to overturn a precedent, but it was a bad precedent and

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it was unconstitutional. So our case sought to overturn

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that precedent and it was pretty remarkable.

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We are lawyers said look to the lower courts.

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They said look you can't do anything for our clients.

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Are a plainness because you can't rule against the Supreme

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Court precedent. So please just let us move on

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rule against us and let us move toward the US Supreme Court.

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They did that. We got through the local Courts

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in about eight months. We got to the ninth Circuit

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Court of Appeals and about eight months which is miraculous and

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we are cases heard at the US Supreme Court in January of

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2016. A majority of the justices

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agreed with us that collective bargaining in the public sector

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is political all the time. So, 100% of government union,

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dues that they collect from from government employees, it's all

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used for politics. So we had the favor of a

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majority of the Justices and agreeing with that.

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And we were really thrilled about that.

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Because we believe it's unconstitutional to force

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government employees, to pay Union.

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And they no longer have to Yeah, that's sort of similar to.

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I've done some a little bit of work on this first amendment

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stuff in terms of the the like the yet the Janice decision and

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unions and freedom of Association, not being forced to

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pay union dues but going back to specifically, teacher unions,

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like it's insane and you nailed it that this idea of like we're

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we as taxpayers pay Public Schools, pay salaries, those

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salaries are, then that, Chunk of that, goes back to the

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Union's who then turn around and donate back to Democrats who

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then write the laws. That then it's just like this

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horrible, vicious cycle and more and more people just, don't know

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about it in California. I don't think people realize

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this horrible vicious cycle. This this sort of inbreeding

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between the unions and the Democrats.

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It's just, it's really horrible. And I don't, I think people more

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people need to know about it because If they knew what their

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tax dollars were going to and how this is all being funded, a

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lot of people probably would wake up and go like you know

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what where's more are my tax dollars going to am?

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I literally just giving money to fund Democratic campaigns is my

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tax dollars going to fund Democratic campaigns and you can

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always follow the money whenever it comes to anything in

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California. Follow the money 9 times out of

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10, it always ends up back at a union.

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So, I think, You nailed it that it is sort of this weird

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actually vicious cycle. Yeah.

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And I'd love to address what you just said.

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Just to let's say there's some Democrats with me tonight.

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Look, we're not talking about your normal classical Democrat

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out there. You know somebody who voted for

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JFK years ago, somebody who shares good values but just

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happens to be a Democrat. We're talking about radicalized

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people who have a truly, a communist agenda.

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They want to sexualize little children, they They are pushing

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an agenda that there's more than two Sexes.

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That, you know, there's a, an infinite number of genders and

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you can change your gender every day.

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They're pushing critical race Theory, which is a Marxist.

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Theory is basically divide and conquer.

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And I could go on and open borders.

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Defund, the police abolish I Sanctuary cities.

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This is all pushed by the so-called teacher unions and

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their Democrat allies. So these aren't I know a lot of

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classical Democrats who are against all of that stuff.

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So these Your people who are far left radicals, who do not love

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our constitutional Free Republic, they do not believe in

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our constitution, they want to change our country.

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Obama said it fundamentally changed.

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Why would you fundamentally change the greatest Republic?

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That's ever existed the Sprott, the most freedom, because you're

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a communist, your remarks, assistant socialist, whatever

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you want to call yourself. So, that's the thing that people

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have to understand is the, the sorts of politicians That the

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unions are actually supporting are these.

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Radical left type of people here in California the Union's.

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I wouldn't even say the Democrats.

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The unions have a 2/3 plus super majority in our state

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legislature. And all you have to do is look

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at the bills that they bring forward in that they pass in

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this state. You know, you can kill a baby up

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to 30 days after it's born. Thank you to the Democrat

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majority that are all put into office by the so-called teacher

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unions. The teacher unions could say.

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Oh, we're not. Hi net, but 100% of the people

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they put into office pass that bill.

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So of course, they're behind it. So once you start digging into

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what the union candidates the people that the Union's of put

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into office, like Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff.

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Any super corrupt. Radical Democrat.

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That is not representing any one of us.

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Any, they're not representing. We, the people I'm not speaking

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for us, that are pushing an agenda.

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They were put into the office into office by the so-called

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government unions especially the teacher unions.

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So it's frightening but we could stop it because before we

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brought our case and you mentioned the Janice case, so

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our case was heard in 2016 and we won oral arguments but the

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way the Supreme Court works is you go to oral arguments the

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justices privately make a decision.

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Then they write the decision and the decision comes out months

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later, our case and Little Sisters of the Poor.

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Over the two biggest cases of the year so we knew our case

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would come out at the end of the term sometime in June.

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Well the month after our case was heard Justice Scalia died

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and we I mean even our lawyers like what happens when it's

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Justice dies? Well what we learned is that one

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suggest is dies, you lose that justices vote.

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So even though Scalia voted in our favor, we've lost his boat

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and we got a 4-4 tie, we had asked the justices to rehear our

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case, but at that time, this was during the primaries.

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The 20 before the 2016 election, pretty much most people thought

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Hillary Clinton was going to win, and I think the justices, I

00:19:46
don't know, I haven't talked to them but I think they thought

00:19:49
good grief. If Hillary wins and we give

00:19:51
these teachers another round at hearing their case and Hilary

00:19:54
puts someone on this court, they're going to lose.

00:19:57
And the set precedence is going to be set in concrete.

00:19:59
We're not going to be able to undo this mess, so they didn't

00:20:02
give us a rehearing. Janice was built on our case.

00:20:06
That Mark Janice is a friend of mine, he was in the court during

00:20:08
oral arguments. Next to my husband saying, I'm

00:20:10
really glad your wife's doing this and I don't have to well,

00:20:13
when Scalia died. All of a sudden, the Janice case

00:20:16
was sitting there waiting. And when, when Trump won and

00:20:20
appointed a conservative Justice, the Janice case, move

00:20:22
forward. So the Janice cases, basically

00:20:25
the friedreich's case just redone.

00:20:28
And so in on June 27th, actually my birthday in 2018 is when the

00:20:33
Janice case 1, so that's when all government employees were

00:20:37
freed from Forced unionism, and United States of America.

00:20:40
So, if you're out there and you're either paying a

00:20:42
government Union, or, you know, someone who's paying a

00:20:46
government Union, please, we have a website for kids and

00:20:49
Country dot-org. If you understand that the

00:20:52
unions are a problem. Just click on Union exit, we

00:20:54
have a three-step program all free to you and me help you get

00:20:57
out, help you get alternative liability insurance.

00:20:59
If you're a teacher educator, and any government employee, we

00:21:03
can help you get out of the Union's but the alternative

00:21:05
liability is for the Educators. And then if you're not, it a go

00:21:09
Employee. But you want to educate one.

00:21:11
You want them to know. Oh my gosh.

00:21:13
Did you know your union is behind the destruction of our

00:21:16
American free republic and Behind These open borders.

00:21:19
Letting millions of illegals into our country and etc, etc.

00:21:24
Then just go to our website for kids and Country dot org and

00:21:26
click on adopt, a teacher and would teach you in three

00:21:29
minutes, how to get behind someone and educate them on

00:21:33
what's really going on with their Union.

00:21:34
And we give you access to the information, you need to educate

00:21:38
them. So I think Could we see the

00:21:40
website, one more time? Because that's really important

00:21:42
for at us. Yeah, it's poor kids and Country

00:21:45
dot org and you either click on Union, I mean, adopt a teacher

00:21:50
or Union exit. Okay, thank you.

00:21:53
And I wanted to go back to something.

00:21:54
You said a moment ago about how it's really not the Democrats

00:21:57
and office running things, but rather the unions and you know,

00:22:00
last year was really the year of the mom's running for school

00:22:04
boards, trying to get in and take this over because they were

00:22:07
not going to do this anymore. And they were like Find roll

00:22:10
running. And so I had some friends

00:22:12
running and what I saw was the Union's, I suppose.

00:22:16
It was they were then spending hundreds of thousands and

00:22:20
millions to really try to out win these moms.

00:22:24
They were, you know, people that had no interest which I think is

00:22:27
a part of the problem is that they're just putting in a

00:22:29
candidate just put into candidate as a placeholder to

00:22:32
say, no, we're not going to have these Republican moms in office.

00:22:36
We're going to make sure it's our own candidate and then there

00:22:39
One candidate really doesn't care about the job but they win

00:22:42
because they've got all the you know, the backing of the money

00:22:44
and the unions and everything. And then now we have and this

00:22:47
isn't to say everybody. But now we have the school

00:22:49
board's with the majority of that don't actually care about

00:22:51
their job. They're just there because the

00:22:53
unions want them there. Yeah, and it gets you even more

00:22:59
diabolical than that. So here's what the Union's do

00:23:03
beware. Folks, the PTA was corrupted a

00:23:06
long time ago. There's a whole chapter in my

00:23:08
book, helping people to understand that the PTA got

00:23:12
captured by the unions and the 1960s, and the 1970s the

00:23:15
Union's, bullied them into a stance of neutrality.

00:23:18
So if I was teacher PTA, teacher rep, my whole career, I paid

00:23:22
teacher and and parent PTA dues Decades until I woke up to this

00:23:27
problem and it woke up to it as a teacher, PTA rep.

00:23:31
When I started pushing back on some stuff that was Radical, and

00:23:35
I got slapped and my principal pulled me off at PGA wrap, and

00:23:38
put the union rep in my place. So then I started doing digging

00:23:41
and learning what was really going on with the PTA.

00:23:43
So, if you're in the PTA, leave start your own PTO.

00:23:46
You can learn about that online or do something, you know, just

00:23:49
private ptas corrupt. They're pushing the same exact

00:23:52
agenda go on their website. You'll see the same agenda as

00:23:54
unions. So, so with the, with the unions

00:23:58
do, is they watch these PTA parents?

00:24:01
They find the most radical parents or the meanest,

00:24:04
nastiest, parents. And those are the ones they hand

00:24:07
select to run for school board. If they can manipulate a PTA

00:24:11
parent, if they know, oh, I can get this parent to do what I

00:24:14
want. That's the one they select.

00:24:16
So if you're strong-willed and you have opinions and you do

00:24:18
your own research, they're not going to pick you.

00:24:20
So they pick basically what what Lenin would have called useful

00:24:24
idiots. We're going to do whatever the

00:24:27
union wants them to do moldable, people that can be Puppeteer.

00:24:31
It's sad, but it's happening all over our country to have a lot

00:24:34
of people serving on school boards and this is true of City

00:24:37
council's. This is true of a county boards

00:24:41
all the way up to the presidency people who are hand selected by

00:24:46
unions because either their corrupt and far left, or they're

00:24:50
easily too easy to manipulate. And then you're right, the

00:24:52
Union's, pour millions and millions of dollars into their

00:24:55
edits. These poor people that are truly

00:24:58
can you know, dedicated to their Community, their parents, their

00:25:02
pastors, whoever they are and they're run for office and

00:25:05
they've got, you know, a few hundred bucks or a few thousand

00:25:07
dollars and a few people helping them.

00:25:09
The union has a machine and they bring in as much money as they

00:25:14
need for every single candidate that They are promoting.

00:25:17
And they use unionized employees as coerced boots on the ground.

00:25:23
And I'll even tell you a story in my own.

00:25:25
Unity. I live in a very conservative

00:25:27
part of Southern California and there is a teacher in our

00:25:31
community, he taught in our district, who literally was so

00:25:35
bullied, by the teachers unions that he went door-to-door to

00:25:39
campaign against his own Uncle. He was in agreement with his

00:25:43
uncle. He wanted his uncle to win, but

00:25:46
he campaigned against his uncle because the Union's bullied him,

00:25:49
that harshly. So that's what's going on with

00:25:52
teachers and other government employees.

00:25:54
They're trapped in this mob. Feel like system.

00:25:56
The unions are total that you total Mafia tactics to terrorize

00:26:00
and control the employees. And so then the Union's end up

00:26:05
with all kinds of boots on the ground campaign people.

00:26:09
You see a teacher strike, the majority of those teachers.

00:26:12
Don't want to be out there striking.

00:26:13
They've been bullied into it. They've been told you, you lose

00:26:16
your job. If you don't do it, you cross

00:26:18
the picket line you're bullied for the rest of your career.

00:26:21
So teachers that they just want to go along to get along so they

00:26:24
have a few nasty. Ones in the front, who are there

00:26:27
activists and by the way, I've had teachers report to me from

00:26:30
around the country that antifa and black lives matters show up

00:26:33
for their teacher union strikes, they're out in the front lines

00:26:36
and these terrorized teachers are in the back, holding these

00:26:39
signs they've been you know, bully to carry.

00:26:41
So it's all propaganda. It's all this.

00:26:45
It's this machine that just has run roughshod over teachers over

00:26:50
school's over a communities. And I'm, you know, grateful to

00:26:54
you for helping me to get the And out to your viewers that

00:26:57
they can understand that, don't vote for the person that sends

00:27:00
the most glossy fires to your house.

00:27:02
If it says on there, you know, sponsored by the teachers.

00:27:05
That's the person you vote against, you know, sponsored by

00:27:08
the Union's vote against them. You know, vote for the person

00:27:11
that comes to your door and says, you know, I'm a mom or I'm

00:27:15
a Community member, and I really care.

00:27:16
And I want to stop this radical agenda.

00:27:19
That's who you vote for. Not the glossy, flyers and all

00:27:21
the money that the unions are Corinne and Charlie actions.

00:27:25
I actually took a I'm reading your book on my Kindle app and I

00:27:28
took a screenshot of something you had said about that.

00:27:31
If you don't mind me reading, oh please, I've been, I'm not going

00:27:34
to read your whole book. I want people to pass right at

00:27:37
that. I forget exactly what story you

00:27:41
were talking about it. I think.

00:27:43
Oh, because you guys were trying to do school, vouchers, Choice,

00:27:49
and then you said in the book are mandatory, Jews were used to

00:27:53
produce beautiful campaign Flyers with But they were to

00:27:55
talking points warning, voters of the evils of the vouchers.

00:27:59
These were dispersed of Voters throughout the state along with

00:28:01
phone calls and active campaigning provided by the

00:28:04
pressured assistance of California teachers.

00:28:06
So yes, using your own dues to fund, all these things against

00:28:14
you against parents against against against children,

00:28:17
against the Chill, that's big, big and and against the country,

00:28:20
you know, our American Founders were very, very Liberabit and

00:28:25
careful about the way they set up our educational system.

00:28:27
It was excellent. And it included the classics and

00:28:32
the Bible was our main textbook. We had the Ten Commandments on

00:28:35
every wall of every classroom. We taught her students

00:28:38
astronomy. We taught them Western

00:28:40
Civilization. We taught them accurate history.

00:28:43
Our students were so bright. They could they could read, you

00:28:45
know, over 90% of Americans were not only reading but reading

00:28:49
well and writing and beautiful cursive to and so the unions

00:28:54
have purposely. In and undermine the entire

00:28:57
educational system with all this money that they're pouring into

00:29:00
these campaigns and they do it by deceiving people.

00:29:04
And they use very cleverly worded talking points.

00:29:07
That sound like isn't this nice? Oh, a community school.

00:29:11
A community school is a way to undermine the families and

00:29:13
Community. Schools are all over California

00:29:16
and Newsom put over four billion into Community Schools in the

00:29:19
latest educational budget and literally Community Schools are

00:29:22
communists model and but the way they They sell it.

00:29:26
I mean, I've had sweet wonderful teachers.

00:29:28
Get mad at me for pushing back on Community Schools because

00:29:31
they've bought the LIE. They've bought the propaganda

00:29:34
that it's something good. So, we all just have to wake up

00:29:36
to these cleverly worded messages, and I'll tell a quick

00:29:40
story from that exact situation that you're mentioning.

00:29:43
That was my fifth year of teaching.

00:29:45
So it was like 1993 or something like that and you know I didn't

00:29:50
have kids yet, but I knew that I wanted to have the choice of

00:29:53
whether I homeschooled my kids or put him in.

00:29:55
It's cool or public school or some other, you know, Coop or

00:29:58
whatever. And so the Unions would come

00:30:00
into our mandatory staff meetings every week and they

00:30:03
would bully us and tell us that if vouchers pass, things are

00:30:07
going to go back to the past, you're going to have to wear

00:30:09
dresses, down to, your ankles, are going to be measuring the

00:30:12
length of your dresses. And you're all going to lose

00:30:14
your jobs and only the kids are going to be taught by people who

00:30:18
don't know how to teach and me, they really I'm just terrorize

00:30:22
teachers and Bully. Does it was all lies.

00:30:24
Eyes. And, you know, when I pushed

00:30:28
back, we were in a mandatory staff meeting in every week,

00:30:30
they would pass around papers and say, you all need to sign up

00:30:33
to phone bank against the vouchers.

00:30:36
Well, I've done my due diligence, I'd read about it,

00:30:38
I'd gone to debates about it and really, the time I was on the

00:30:41
fence, but I didn't want to be told by my union that I had to

00:30:44
defeat it. And so that, you know, they

00:30:46
passed around their paperwork and and the union rep at the

00:30:50
time, you know, she saw that I didn't sign, I didn't sign up to

00:30:53
phone bank to defeat bow. Vouchers.

00:30:56
She stopped in the middle of the meeting and you know, why didn't

00:30:58
you sign that? And I said, well, I I'm really

00:31:01
on the fence. I don't think I'm for, you know,

00:31:04
being against Josh. I think I'm for them.

00:31:06
I think I want families to have a choice and I think it might be

00:31:09
a good idea and she just she's immediately.

00:31:12
She goes home. Oh, you're a radical right

00:31:15
winger. And she just called me names and

00:31:18
just isolated me. That's what they do.

00:31:20
They isolate you. And they if you've ever read

00:31:23
Rules for Radicals, Cause that's their, that's their Bible.

00:31:26
They follow Saul alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

00:31:28
There's 12 rules. One of them is find a Target and

00:31:32
forget exactly how he says it, but basically you isolate the

00:31:34
person. So when they do that to you,

00:31:36
everybody else gets terrified. So all the teachers were silent.

00:31:40
I never did sign up, but for the rest of that school year, the

00:31:43
union reps would not talk to me. I was isolated after the

00:31:47
meeting. I had teachers, follow me back

00:31:48
to my classroom and when we were in a private place, they said,

00:31:51
oh, we agree with you 100%. And I said, why didn't you speak

00:31:54
up? Why didn't you not signed up and

00:31:57
they just shrug their shoulders? Every one of them signed up to

00:31:59
phone bank, every one of them went out to defeat belches.

00:32:02
So this is manipulation. This is bullying.

00:32:05
This is Mafia tactics. This is lies.

00:32:08
This is propaganda. And so this is what a California

00:32:11
has been going through for decades, and this is how our

00:32:15
state's been captured. This is how we've been

00:32:17
undermined. I believe California is a

00:32:20
majority conservative State and I'm not saying majority

00:32:23
Republican that everyone would call them.

00:32:25
Such a republican. But I think the majority of

00:32:27
Californians, want freedom, low taxes.

00:32:31
I think they went the gas prices to go down.

00:32:33
I think they don't want to depict be dependent on our

00:32:35
enemies. I think they want our borders

00:32:37
secure. I don't think they want their

00:32:39
children sexualized in our schools.

00:32:40
I think their children, what they want their children to

00:32:42
learn how to read. You know, we have millions of

00:32:45
functional illiterates now thanks to the unions and the way

00:32:48
they destroyed our educational system, so I think the majority

00:32:51
of Americans want. What we want.

00:32:54
We have Majoritarian values, give us freedom, protect our

00:32:59
kids help us to educate our kids and get out of our way.

00:33:02
Let us live and the Democrats who are supported by the radical

00:33:06
Unions. That's not what they want.

00:33:08
They want to control us their tyrants.

00:33:10
So I'm glad people are waking up to who they really are.

00:33:15
Yeah, I have Travis. I just want I want to make a

00:33:24
comment that I think covid in a way.

00:33:28
And I've said this before on different episodes in different

00:33:31
shows covid. I think really exposed the rot

00:33:36
of a lot of California institutions from Sacramento,

00:33:40
the inefficiency the bureaucracy, and the backlash

00:33:44
against schools. Those may have been the Silver

00:33:47
Lining, even though a lot of kids have to suffer through Zoom

00:33:49
classes and stuff like that. I think a lot of teacher or

00:33:52
parents were able to see what is being taught in school and

00:33:57
what's the curriculum? And I think it just absolutely

00:34:00
horrified. A lot of parents to go, wow, is

00:34:03
this really what's happening in my school is this what my kid is

00:34:06
learning like. And then I think it's kind of

00:34:10
snowballed into this momentum of people getting involved in

00:34:14
school boards. Learning more about how to run

00:34:16
for school board. And I think that's to your point

00:34:20
that I think a lot of people are for these common-sense things.

00:34:23
They want to send their kids to school, so they can learn how to

00:34:26
do math and read and write and social studies and history, and

00:34:30
all that stuff. But then, at the end of the day,

00:34:33
they look at these radical ideologies being taught to them,

00:34:37
and they just go. What the heck are we doing here?

00:34:39
Like this isn't, this isn't what we signed up for.

00:34:41
This isn't what we want. Do you see that more like, you

00:34:45
think after covid, there's been more of a push back by parents

00:34:49
to be like what's going on in our school, showing up at school

00:34:52
board, meetings, and being more involved Yes you are 100% right.

00:34:58
Thank God. So pre-code I have been

00:35:00
preaching the same message you don't for 35 years.

00:35:05
I've been pushing against the union since I was a student

00:35:07
teacher because that's when I first found out about their

00:35:10
Shenanigans, I watched a teacher abusing little first-graders

00:35:13
every day and found out for my master teacher that that teacher

00:35:16
was protected by the unions and the kids were out of luck.

00:35:18
So I never wanted to pay the Union's.

00:35:19
I was always aware of their evils.

00:35:21
I didn't know how evil until I got deep more deeply.

00:35:26
But I can tell you, people didn't believe me before, when

00:35:29
I've been blowing, the whistle about sex, ed for a long time

00:35:32
blowing. The whistle about the Union's

00:35:34
radical agenda and people thought, you know, you don't

00:35:37
know what you're talking about. It can't pop, it can't possibly

00:35:40
be going on until covid. So the beauty of covid, I agree

00:35:44
with you, we call it the, we released a movie last year,

00:35:47
whose children are they? And we also call it the silver

00:35:49
lining of covid because it awakened a sleeping giant Called

00:35:55
parents and good teachers and so you described how it awakened

00:35:59
parents and how it brought great damage to children.

00:36:02
But thank God at least it awaken their parents, it also awakened

00:36:06
teachers. So what most people don't

00:36:08
realize is the majority of teachers would never teach those

00:36:11
radical agendas never, they wouldn't touch it with a

00:36:14
ten-foot pole and so with the unions have done is well, let's

00:36:20
just take this exit. When the Union's wrote the

00:36:23
California, healthy youth Act, Sex ed comprehensive sexuality

00:36:27
education. Yes the Union's, right?

00:36:28
These things and then they get the legislators they put into

00:36:31
office to bring these bills. In this case, it was surely Nash

00:36:34
Weber. Who after she was able to get

00:36:36
this radical sex. Ed, put into our state.

00:36:39
You know passenger State, she was rewarded by being named.

00:36:42
The Secretary of State very woman, Thunder percent pushes,

00:36:49
the radical Union agenda. We need to get her out of there,

00:36:52
out of Secretary of State position, in any other position.

00:36:55
Asian. She does not serve the people of

00:36:57
California at all. She serves the union.

00:36:59
She serves her master which is not us.

00:37:02
And in America, by the way, we the people are the master, We

00:37:05
Are The Sovereign, they're supposed to be serving us.

00:37:07
Not serving some you know a lobbyist group or political

00:37:10
agenda or special interest group.

00:37:12
But anyway, what happened with with the covid with teachers,

00:37:15
woke up. So I'm just going to tell you a

00:37:17
story about one group of teachers.

00:37:18
But this is this is true all around the country.

00:37:22
So in Los Angeles Unified School District.

00:37:24
The Largest District in this country.

00:37:26
One of the most corrupt districts in this country run by

00:37:31
just radical teacher. Union leadership, there are over

00:37:36
1 employees that were either fired or otherwise put on online

00:37:42
learning or whatever because they refused to take

00:37:45
experimental shot called covid-19.

00:37:47
I won't call it vaccine, it's an experimental shot, they refuse

00:37:51
to take it. They, you know, they put in

00:37:53
religious, Options medical exemptions and LAUSD refused to

00:37:58
accept their exemptions and or put them on relegated them to

00:38:02
online learning, you know, still to this day.

00:38:04
These people are not allowed to come on two campuses because

00:38:07
they haven't gotten shot. Many of them lost their job,

00:38:09
lost their way of living. Well this woke them up.

00:38:13
These are teachers who stood in the picket line last time.

00:38:17
You know years few years ago in LAUSD had to strike.

00:38:20
They didn't this time. Do you know about 300 teachers,

00:38:22
cross the picket line of month or two ago?

00:38:25
When LAUSD have their strike that didn't make the news of

00:38:27
course not. The media is never media is

00:38:29
controlled by the unions and the left.

00:38:31
Why would they tell us? The teachers are upset these are

00:38:35
really good. Many of them Godly teachers who

00:38:38
really love the students and want to do what's right for the

00:38:40
children but they didn't understand how radical and evil

00:38:43
their Union was until the covid until they started seeing, you

00:38:48
know what a lot of these activists Union activist

00:38:51
teachers were teaching and then what a lot of those teachers

00:38:54
still Don't know, and I'd like to tell you, please share with

00:38:57
the teachers all around our state and all around our country

00:39:00
is when the Union's, push these radicals, sex laws, bringing the

00:39:04
sex, the radical sex ed into our schools, they write things into

00:39:10
the law in California, it says that.

00:39:13
If teachers are unqualified to teach this, then we'll bring in

00:39:17
the experts. What does that mean in orwellian

00:39:20
Newspeak? That the language that the union

00:39:22
speak the propaganda lies, that means if Teacher is going to

00:39:25
say, whoa, I'm not teaching that that's child abuse, right?

00:39:28
So teacher won't teach it. They bring in the experts who

00:39:31
are the experts Planned Parenthood.

00:39:33
Yeah, so people don't realize Planned, Parenthood has

00:39:35
contracts with school districts all over this country, all over

00:39:39
California. All Over States, all around this

00:39:41
nation and parents, you know, file, some foias, all over the

00:39:44
place and find out. If your school district has

00:39:46
planned parenthood, I would wager my money.

00:39:48
If you're in California, your school district is very likely

00:39:51
working with Planned Parenthood so it's not your teacher that's

00:39:54
teaching this Radical agenda, it's Planned Parenthood or some

00:39:57
other radical, you know, special interest group that's being

00:40:00
brought in and getting a lot of your tax dollars to harm your

00:40:02
children. So this is a very deep evil

00:40:06
agenda, and the unions are the root of it.

00:40:08
And so, in my opinion, we need to make these government unions

00:40:12
illegal. Again, they don't belong in our

00:40:14
schools, their friends don't belong in our schools, like the

00:40:17
ACLU and Southern Poverty, Law Center, and all these other

00:40:20
organizations that have infiltrated, our schools, it'll

00:40:23
belong. Their schools should be run by

00:40:25
Parents the teachers, the parents higher good teachers,

00:40:29
the good motives and we as neighborhoods should be

00:40:33
controlling our schools. Not a bunch of special interest

00:40:35
groups, or the state or the feds Federal money shouldn't be

00:40:39
involved in our schools at all. So we have a, we have a big

00:40:41
battle to fight, but I think people are finally awake enough

00:40:44
to do it and our kids are worth it.

00:40:45
And by the way, our freedoms are worth it to absolutely.

00:40:50
I it baffles my mind when I read articles about, you know, oh,

00:40:54
these He's crazy. Parents coming in and trying to

00:40:57
take over the schools and then the comments will be like, these

00:41:01
parents are so unqualified and have no idea what they're

00:41:03
talking about. And they need to just step aside

00:41:06
and let the teachers, let the school's, you know, educate

00:41:08
their kids and they shouldn't have a say in the curriculum

00:41:11
because they didn't go to school for this.

00:41:13
And I'm just so I homeschool. Yeah.

00:41:15
Good for you. And I won't always homeschooled

00:41:19
and it's kind of it's not funny but it's kind of funny because

00:41:21
when I started homeschooling, my oldest is a junior.

00:41:25
High school now. But so, 12 years ago, I guess my

00:41:29
big concern was, I'm a Christian and I don't want my kids

00:41:32
learning about evolution of the school system.

00:41:34
I want to teach creation. That was actually like my big

00:41:37
concern 15 years ago and every year, it's just now I laugh at

00:41:43
how silly that is, like, oh, I could just teach them that at

00:41:45
home, but the rest of what's going on in schools.

00:41:48
No, absolutely not. I will work my answer.

00:41:50
When people say, well, why do you homeschool how long do you

00:41:52
plan to home school? And I'd say oh, as long as it

00:41:54
works, its Long as it works. Now, I have gotten through this

00:41:58
far. I have four kids in my hand gets

00:42:00
about to finish sixth grade and I'm like, no, I will never.

00:42:03
They are not going to public school ever.

00:42:05
I won't I can't and I like I know there's great teachers, I

00:42:09
am friends with many great teachers.

00:42:10
I have teachers in my family but I will not.

00:42:13
I refuse to put my kids with I can't well, God bless you

00:42:18
Camille. And and you know and you really

00:42:21
you're following as a Christian. You're following God's directive

00:42:24
to you and his Precepts. Because the scripture tells us

00:42:27
that we are to raise and educate, our own children, that

00:42:30
is our job, and the scripture is very clear about it.

00:42:33
So God bless you and I really feel like it's the homeschooled

00:42:37
kids that are going to save this country because they actually

00:42:39
know they understand the Constitution.

00:42:42
They understand, you know how our government is supposed to

00:42:45
work. We are not a democracy.

00:42:46
We are a constitutional Free Republic.

00:42:48
Most people don't know that. So your children, they probably

00:42:51
are learning the Western Civ. They're reading the Bible,

00:42:53
they're probably reading the classics.

00:42:55
Your kids can help save our country, so thank you.

00:42:57
But I wanted to address something you said and that is

00:43:01
this whole narrative that parents aren't smart enough.

00:43:05
That is a lie that the teachers unions have been pushing for

00:43:09
decades are not teachers. The Union's the unions that

00:43:13
claim to represent teachers and I'm sad to report that there are

00:43:17
many teachers that fall from for this narrative and it's because

00:43:19
they hear it over and over and over, they hear it in their

00:43:22
teacher College, they hear it on campus.

00:43:24
But You sit down with a truly good honest, caring teacher and

00:43:28
you help them to understand. This is propaganda, you've been

00:43:31
manipulated, you've been propagandize, once they start to

00:43:34
see the truth. They break free of these

00:43:36
narratives, so I have personally read in black and white because

00:43:41
I do so much research on the Union's where they stated in

00:43:45
their documents, how parents, you know, are not capable of

00:43:49
teaching their own kids and they don't want parents teach their

00:43:51
own kids. It's very obvious with their

00:43:53
agenda that they are. Trying to undermine parents.

00:43:56
They are undermining parents and they they want this.

00:43:59
They State this constantly Randi Weingarten when she was on when

00:44:03
she lied under oath. When she testified before

00:44:06
Congress, a couple weeks ago everybody was alarmed that she

00:44:09
was lying about that the her organization American Federation

00:44:14
of teachers didn't, you know, try to keep the schools closed.

00:44:17
Of course, she did that she had backroom deal with the CDC.

00:44:20
They followed her guidance. I mean, crazy.

00:44:22
She's not a scientist, not a teacher either.

00:44:25
It's not parent by the way, she's just a radical left

00:44:28
Community organizer who has a lot of power and a lot of money

00:44:31
makes about 500 Grand a year off the backs of teachers.

00:44:34
So that woman not only lied to Congress under oath but she kept

00:44:40
talking about how great Community Schools are she kept

00:44:43
talking about and Community, Schools are communists model and

00:44:46
so people didn't understand the things that were coming out of

00:44:49
her mouth. She was pushing a very radical

00:44:53
agenda and making it sound. Very sweet, making it sound

00:44:57
like, teachers are the experts and teachers know everything and

00:45:00
we need to, you know, support these wonderful teachers.

00:45:03
Yes we should support. Wonderful teachers who are

00:45:05
supporting parents and who are doing a great job and who are

00:45:08
not, you know, manipulating children or sexualizing them or

00:45:12
you know teaching them to be social justice Warriors or

00:45:15
whatever. If you're a great teacher and

00:45:16
you're doing your job teaching kids to read and write and to be

00:45:19
patriotic and moral and respectful, you know, hooray.

00:45:24
Thank God for you and you work with parents and you serve them

00:45:27
great. But that's not what the unions

00:45:29
are doing their behind this whole narrative.

00:45:32
That parents can't do it. And I run into so many parents,

00:45:36
who tell me, there's no way I can homeschool, I just don't

00:45:38
understand. Yes, you can.

00:45:41
I don't care if you don't speak English, you can do a better

00:45:45
job. Homeschooling your children in

00:45:47
English. Even if you don't speak English,

00:45:49
then the schools are going to do educating your children.

00:45:51
That's how corrupt our schools are.

00:45:52
There's some good teachers, but there's a A lot of radical stuff

00:45:55
going on and you're going to do a better job on your own.

00:45:58
Not only that you're going to learn because I don't know about

00:46:01
y'all, but I went to public schools in California, and I was

00:46:05
an a student, some B's. My dad did not allow sees a

00:46:09
very, you know, very dedicated student.

00:46:11
And there was a lot, they did not teach me, they never pulled

00:46:14
down a map, they never taught us Western Civilization, I had to

00:46:17
learn all that myself. My government class was full of

00:46:21
football players who were so out of control in the teacher.

00:46:23
I have no control over. Class, we didn't learn anything.

00:46:26
So we didn't even learn about Constitution or the three

00:46:28
branches of government had to teach myself.

00:46:31
So parents, I am telling you, I don't care who you are, how

00:46:34
little education you have, how, you know, broken your English.

00:46:38
You can teach your children to home, better than the public

00:46:41
schools are going to teach your children and I hope you'll do

00:46:43
it. I hope you won't listen to the

00:46:44
propaganda of the unions anymore.

00:46:46
They want your kids, they want to manipulate and control your

00:46:49
kids and their tyrants. They want to control our

00:46:52
country. Don't let him do that.

00:46:54
Hold on to your kids. Kids, thank you so much for

00:46:56
that. I get really passionate about

00:46:57
home school. So thank you.

00:46:59
And also if like I graduated from public high school here in

00:47:04
Orange County and if our K through 12 systems are so great,

00:47:08
then by the time we graduate we should be capable of teaching

00:47:11
children what we learned. So if we aren't capable, then I

00:47:15
guess they failed us. And so that's on them.

00:47:17
Exactly. And there's one other thing I

00:47:19
want to tell your, your, your viewers, especially the home

00:47:21
schoolers or those who are thinking about home schooling or

00:47:24
have been Afraid to home-school, did you know that in the old

00:47:27
days of America when our schools were great?

00:47:29
And you know, our country was thriving and we were

00:47:32
entrepreneurial. I mean we were you know, we

00:47:34
didn't have a bunch of functionally illiterate.

00:47:37
We didn't even have dyslexia just like Tis the fault of the

00:47:39
unions to because they pulled out phonics.

00:47:41
But anyway, that's another story for another day but when our

00:47:44
country was doing so well and our education system was the

00:47:48
Envy of the world, do you know the teachers did not have to

00:47:52
have a college degree? They just learned in our

00:47:57
one-room School houses or a little Dame schools they learned

00:48:00
in our system. It wasn't called public in those

00:48:03
days that they just learned in our American educational system.

00:48:06
They learned so much that they knew more.

00:48:09
When they graduated the eighth grade, then we know when we

00:48:11
graduate college today, it's pathetic but the Union's of done

00:48:15
to our educational system, you might think you had a great

00:48:18
education here in America. You didn't, you didn't unless

00:48:21
you're maybe 85 90 years old, our education It hasn't been or

00:48:25
you went to Hillsdale College or, you know, some special

00:48:28
private school or you were homeschooled.

00:48:30
Our educational system has literally been flipped on its

00:48:33
head and so if the teachers of the greatest educational system

00:48:39
in the past, didn't have a college degree.

00:48:42
Why would you need one? You don't you just need no just

00:48:45
need to know how to teach well and have some good curricula and

00:48:48
that's available out there and obviously Camille can help you

00:48:51
find that. So can we have four kids and

00:48:52
center.org So with with a couple minutes left, I was gonna throw

00:49:01
this out to the viewers are watching.

00:49:02
If you have any comments or questions for Rebecca, we're

00:49:05
going to be finishing up in about 10 minutes coming up on

00:49:09
the hour but I guess I wanted to bring it all home with you know,

00:49:14
what can we do? What is the next step?

00:49:16
What is the action items that people who are as well?

00:49:21
What can we do to help with this entire battle?

00:49:23
How can we get involved? Volved.

00:49:26
I am so glad you asked this because we do have action items

00:49:30
for kids and Country dot org. And the key is, you have to

00:49:34
educate people who are still paying government unions.

00:49:37
And there are millions of them and you likely have one in your

00:49:40
life. Do you know someone who works

00:49:41
for the VA or the DMV or the department of Ed or who's a

00:49:46
teacher or a nurse working in a government system?

00:49:51
There's just there's so many government employees out there

00:49:53
someone who's working you know, as a Coworker.

00:49:56
They're all paying union dues and they're paying these corrupt

00:49:59
unions who are destroying your kids, our country, which is why

00:50:04
we call herself for kids and Country because we're for saving

00:50:06
those two things and you can help.

00:50:10
So, what do you do? You come to for kids and country

00:50:12
dot-org? That's our website.

00:50:14
You can just click on join the movement.

00:50:16
It'll take you to a page that gives you all these little

00:50:18
buttons that helps you to discover everything we can help

00:50:20
you do. But the two most important to us

00:50:23
is or you know to help you make the Action item is Adopt, a

00:50:28
teacher and Union exit. So, adopt a teacher takes three

00:50:31
minutes to learn how to do it. You're basically just embracing

00:50:35
any educator, you know, could be a, principal could be a school

00:50:37
board member. I could be a janitor, I don't

00:50:39
care, they're working in the school system, their pay in the

00:50:41
Union's, you just put your arm around, you educate them.

00:50:45
You're going to forget all the things I told you, you're not.

00:50:47
I can't remember what Rebecca said.

00:50:48
I wrote a book called standing up to Goliath.

00:50:50
You can see it on our website, see where to order it if you

00:50:52
want one. And I even have it on audio,

00:50:55
it's On Kindle. So there's no excuses.

00:50:57
Everybody can can read it, it's an easy read, it's all stories.

00:51:01
And so, and then we have a lot of toolkits and things on our

00:51:04
website, to all free of charge to you that you can read.

00:51:07
And and just understand the answers teachers are going to

00:51:10
ask you questions. You can't answer.

00:51:11
That's why we have a teacher toolkit.

00:51:13
That answers all the questions for them because they're going

00:51:15
to ask you the tough ones, that you can't answer.

00:51:17
So, adopt, a teacher is number one, learn how to do that, start

00:51:20
educating every every educator, you know, anyone who's involved

00:51:23
in school and other government employees?

00:51:26
We're paying unions about what these unions are.

00:51:28
Really about government unions. And not talking about private

00:51:30
sector unions. Not talking about your

00:51:32
construction friend. Don't get mad at me, mr.

00:51:34
Construction worker, talking about government and then the

00:51:38
second thing is click on our Union exit.

00:51:40
Once you, understand how corrupt these unions are.

00:51:42
And you don't want to fund the demise of the greatest Republic,

00:51:46
you don't want to fund the demise of your freedom, or your

00:51:48
children, or your family. You don't want to lose your home

00:51:52
or anything that you can lose with.

00:51:53
You see this radical agenda that's going on the unions.

00:51:56
Biden in office. You're upset with with Biden's

00:51:58
doing and the radical people. He puts in positions, they're

00:52:02
all chosen by the so-called teachers union so and other

00:52:06
radical Union. So, click Union exit, it's a

00:52:08
three-step process. We help you to get out of the

00:52:11
Union's. It's free of charge to you and

00:52:15
getting as many people out of the government unions as

00:52:17
possible is, is the first step in ending.

00:52:21
This nightmare, it's my goal to, to make the Union's illegal

00:52:25
again. And we Work on that every day,

00:52:27
getting our message out. So help us get our message out

00:52:30
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00:52:31
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00:52:34
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00:52:36
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00:52:39
If you want just helping people to know the truth.

00:52:43
The truth sets you free, right? So helping them to know the

00:52:45
truth and to stop funding. The lies is is where we start.

00:52:52
Absolutely. I actually have another question

00:52:55
for you about something that I read in your book.

00:52:57
Do you know if it's still true? Because you mentioned that the

00:53:01
Union's like something about, I think they're funding twice as

00:53:05
much as big Pharma is, is that still?

00:53:08
Oh yeah, that's why I'm so glad you brought that up.

00:53:11
So, and that was out of California to there was a, can't

00:53:14
remember the name of the commission but it was a

00:53:16
nonpartisan commission that did a study on the top 15 highest

00:53:22
donors to Little campaigns in the state of California,

00:53:25
California, Teachers Association topped the list and they spent

00:53:29
double more than double that of big Pharma.

00:53:32
So everyone especially since covid, they see that big farm is

00:53:34
the bad guy. They see, you know, all the

00:53:36
manipulation in the lies and they want to fill us full of all

00:53:39
these pills and shots and make a sick but they don't understand

00:53:42
the teachers unions. Spend more than double than big

00:53:45
Pharma and the teachers unions have control your kids and

00:53:49
they're not really representing teachers, and they're not really

00:53:51
a union right there. Just this political ad More,

00:53:54
it's collecting your tax dollars to push their agenda.

00:53:58
Yes, that's still very true that commission has not done a

00:54:01
current study, so that particular study is a little bit

00:54:04
dated now a few years ago. But yeah, that continues to be

00:54:08
true that and I think, on that list of 15, the majority of them

00:54:13
were government unions. Other government unions like,

00:54:15
SEIU AFL-CIO. So it's not just the teachers

00:54:19
unions these unions. I mean, when you dig Ginn.

00:54:23
Look the teachers unions alone are bringing in close to 5

00:54:28
billion with AB e annually tax-free and they're spending it

00:54:34
all on politics and if you add up all the other government

00:54:37
unions out there who are unionizing millions and millions

00:54:40
of Americans. Can you imagine the billions and

00:54:42
billions? They're bringing in, that's free

00:54:45
to destroy your freedoms. So this is, I mean like this is

00:54:49
a, you know, alert alert what are the fire?

00:54:53
I just call it a five-alarm fire.

00:54:57
I mean, it doesn't get any worse.

00:54:58
It doesn't get any worse. The schools are on fire.

00:55:00
Your kids are inside. The unions.

00:55:02
Are the ones that Lit the match. They're the ones, put it on

00:55:04
fire. So we have to stop these people.

00:55:07
They are a domestic, you know, threat people who are serving in

00:55:12
our government. They've taken an oath of office

00:55:15
to protect and defend against domestic enemies if they are in

00:55:18
bed with the teacher, unions or these other corrupt unions there

00:55:22
100%. Against their oath, they should

00:55:24
be standing against these people who are threatening our very way

00:55:27
of life and our children. So it's a big deal.

00:55:32
Yeah, just want to finish Murray.

00:55:37
Rothbard wrote in anatomy the state.

00:55:39
He talked about. Why is the state so, obsessed

00:55:42
with having public education? It's because then they can push

00:55:46
their agenda through the state. What they want you to think, and

00:55:50
what they want you to do. And that's why they have such an

00:55:53
enormous, hold on, public education, and everything.

00:55:58
You've talked about tonight just reaffirms that That they want to

00:56:03
have absolute total control over public education so that they

00:56:07
can control what your kids are learning that they follow their

00:56:10
orders, that they grow up believing a certain thing that

00:56:15
the state wants you to believe. So, yes, it's a great great

00:56:20
book. I recommend anybody check it out

00:56:22
but I also recommend that you check out your book where else

00:56:25
can people find and learn more about you and working?

00:56:30
They pick up a copy of your book.

00:56:32
Thanks for asking. So they can find me at four kids

00:56:35
and Country dot org or they can find us for kids in country on

00:56:39
pretty much any social media platform.

00:56:41
We are no surprise Shadow band on Facebook and Instagram, so

00:56:46
people don't see our post but where they're nonetheless, you

00:56:48
can go to our page and see our post.

00:56:51
And my book is pretty much any where books are sold online, and

00:56:54
they can find a direct link on our website for kids and Country

00:56:57
dot org, and the book is called standing up to Goliath and just

00:57:01
really quickly. And What you just said, fill our

00:57:04
American Founders, who knew exactly how to have freedom.

00:57:09
They told us very clearly in their writings that the only way

00:57:12
to keep a free republic is with a well-educated moral citizenry.

00:57:17
That can self-govern these unions want to undermine our

00:57:20
freedoms and undermine our Republic they are tyrants who

00:57:23
want to control us so that's why they're undermining, our great

00:57:26
education, our morals so we can self-govern.

00:57:30
So it's really a big deal that we not.

00:57:32
Have federal government involved in our schools.

00:57:35
Putting money in our schools and the state government's supposed

00:57:37
to be very hands-off. They're not supposed to be

00:57:39
pouring in all the money they're pouring in.

00:57:41
So, we just have to think differently, people have gotten

00:57:44
addicted, really 20, a free public education, that's not how

00:57:48
America was founded. And that's not how we stayed

00:57:50
free. So one of the ways we can

00:57:52
restore America and keep our freedoms is to break free of

00:57:57
this government funded public school system because it really

00:57:59
is like, you said, Phil, it's a way to allow Oh, the tyrants to

00:58:03
control. Absolutely Camille any final

00:58:08
thoughts before we sign off for the night Ivy you know I get

00:58:11
extreme. I'm like encouraging people Mass

00:58:14
Exodus from the public schools, defund public education but now

00:58:17
it sounds like it's more like defund the Union's.

00:58:20
So I have to do when you do it all know, we need to do it all.

00:58:23
I agree with you in all aspects of his.

00:58:24
Yeah I'm part of another organization public school exit.

00:58:27
And we say that mass Exodus from the public schools.

00:58:29
I agree and I agree we shouldn't have public schools anymore.

00:58:34
I need to go back to what we used to do.

00:58:35
And, and yes, please defund. The unions and let's fight and

00:58:39
fight and fight to make them illegal, because they truly are

00:58:42
dangerous to our children, and to our liberties, Alright so

00:58:48
we're in agreeance think we're all immigrants here?

00:58:52
Yeah you fund public education, defund the unions.

00:58:55
Well Rebecca thank you for coming on tonight.

00:58:57
It's been a pleasure. Welcome back anytime that you

00:59:00
want to talk about. If there's any updates or

00:59:02
anything you want to let our viewers or listeners.

00:59:04
Now, welcome back anytime. So thank you for coming on.

00:59:08
So appreciate that. You were here.

00:59:09
I'm very excited that you were here.

00:59:11
Thank you. Well, thank you.

00:59:14
I'm going to kind of like embarrass Camille now.

00:59:16
She leaves. She was like Fangirl No hard

00:59:18
over this episode specifically, so excited about this one.

00:59:23
It was like back in the beginning of December that I

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started co-hosting and right away.

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I was like, I want her back on. I want her back on, and I start

00:59:30
reaching out to anybody that knew you, and then they're like,

00:59:32
well, it's the holidays, maybe after holidays, and I was just

00:59:35
like, how can I get her? Oh, I'm so glad we got

00:59:38
connected. And I'd love to come on again.

00:59:40
And I actually have a brand-new 3-minute Sizzle reel.

00:59:43
I'd love to show your audience at some point, so let's do it

00:59:46
soon. Right.

00:59:48
Definitely whatever you want to come back.

00:59:49
So and for everyone who's listening, thank you for tuning

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in. And the best way the best free

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way to support this podcast and share it with anybody,

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especially this one, share it with people who don't know about

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what's going on with the unions and public schools and all that

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stuff. Share it with someone say hey do

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you know about what's going on with our public schools?

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And these unions definitely very informational and what Rebecca

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has to say and then go check out our resources and with that

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we'll say good night. Night.

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Have a good night, everybody. Night.

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Have a good night, everybody.