On this episode, Camille and I discuss some of the highlights of the new laws that are going into effect in 2023 here in California. We discuss laws that range from the "pink tax", to jaywalking, to expanded abortion protections.
Links Mentioned in Show
https://www.foxla.com/news/new-california-laws-2023-january-1
https://calmatters.org/explainers/new-california-laws-2023/
https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/01/california-legislature-2023/
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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of California underground.
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I'm here with my co-host, Camille.
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How are you doing tonight? Camille good.
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Thank you. How are you Phil?
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Excellent for a rainy. Thursday night here.
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In San Diego. We're going to hit with that
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bomb, Cyclone off the Pacific coast.
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Is it raining at much up in Orange County as well?
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Your audio just cut out to do. I cut out?
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No, you didn't cut out. Okay, can you still hear me?
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Yes, I can hear you, but I miss whatever you said after rain.
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Oh, I asked if there was a lot of rain up in Orange County as
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well. Absolutely, we love it.
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We have no way to store it. It's all running off into the
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ocean another topic for another day.
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Another topic for another day, a bill we're not going to cover
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because there was no bill to address that specific concern.
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But the point of tonight's podcast is we're going to be
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talking a lot, about new bills are going into effect.
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So these are bills that were obviously went through the
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legislature last year, there were signed into law by Gavin
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Newsom. I think we got a number
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according to this cow matters article.
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They passed around 1200 bills and nearly 1 became law.
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Thanks to Gavin Newsom. So, there were 1 new laws.
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We're not going to cover all 1.
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We're going to try and it's one of the pilot maybe like 500.
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Yeah. Like, okay, subscribe.
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We don't want to go on too long. We're gonna try and do the, the
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Highlight some of the ones that are probably the most impactful
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some that are typical California that are just kind of silly and
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show you like, when a legislature thinks we have to
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pass laws, they come up with all sorts of laws that they need to
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pass, whether they needed to pass them or not, but it just
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show That they are doing their job or pretending to do their
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job. So the question is, which one do
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we start off with? Do we start off with, like heavy
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or do we start off with like a lighter one to kind of ease into
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it? And then we'll get into the more
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heavy ones? What's your thoughts?
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Let's start light. Okay, let's start.
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Then with the one that I you send me an article right before
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we came on a little bit ago, which was about jaywalking And
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jaywalking contrary to popular belief has not been
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decriminalized. It has been neutered in a sense
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of how strict they can be on jaywalking.
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So the law used to be if you crossed in a area of the street
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that was not a crosswalk. A police officer could come over
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and give you a ticket for jaywalking.
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I don't think I've ever seen. Anyone actually get a ticket for
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jaywalking. I certainly have I've never
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gotten a ticket for jaywalking. I see people running across the
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street all time. No one's ever gotten a ticket
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for jaywalking. This must have been a huge issue
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that the California legislature spent time and our tax dollars
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on writing a law in. Passing this law, that would
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reduce the likelihood that you would get a ticket for
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jaywalking, correct. Correct.
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This was authored by someone in San Francisco.
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Right, I believe so. Yeah, it was, it was a he was
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very add like adamant about This law and let me see if I can pull
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it up, but you had sent me the whole article and it was
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interesting how it went from? It was all about jaywalking, we
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think it's kind of dumb that people get tickets for
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jaywalking. We're going to kind of reduce
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that and in the article took about seven paragraphs before
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they made, it all about equality, and all that stuff.
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And they kind of rolled it all into the San Francisco speech
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of, it's all about equality, and this, that and the other thing
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and Not shockingly enough but so the new law, the freedom.
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It's not what's that freedom? The freedom to walk act, the
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freedom to walk act as if you didn't have freedom to walk
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before. California has now made it even
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easier for you to walk with freedom.
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Gave us that for him they gave us.
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Thanks, thank you, California for giving us freedom.
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To walk, the new law does not decriminalize jaywalking all
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together. And funny story.
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I was on the way back from court this morning and I was in the
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car with an Uber driver, and he was a very sassy, we were driver
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and we're driving up, Fifth Avenue in San Diego and guy runs
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across the street and Uber driver starts honking Adams
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wearing out on which I was like, oh, that's odd for a Uber
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driver. Okay.
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And I said, well, you know, now it's I was not legal to do
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jaywalking and in California and he got very defensive about it
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and you Like no actually, you can still get a ticket.
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It just has to be when it's like, a not safe area.
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That's like, oh, okay. Excuse me, you look kind of
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yelled at me about it. I was like, all right buddy, you
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really up on this law but that's kind of what it is.
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The police have discretion. Now if you're Crossing in an
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area that is deemed to be an immediate Hazard, then you can
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get a ticket. So if it's on like a busy
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highway, or a busy street and your jaywalking, then you can
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get a ticket. And I think it starts at hold
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onto your hats here. Twenty dollars.
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That's the ticket that you might get for jaywalking. okay, if
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it's an immediate hazard, Wouldn't you just get hit by the
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car? I guess it's not that immediate,
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I guess it's immediate. Well this was one thing that the
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guy who wrote the Bill came up with, he said, it's kind of a
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gray area of how does a law enforcement enforce this because
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What's an immediate area or what's immediate Hazard, what's
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dangerous area, all that sort of thing.
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And his point was that there are neighborhoods in California that
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don't have crosswalks. I find that crazy that there are
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neighborhoods in California that don't have crosswalks but I
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think that's more than the Dyckman those areas.
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I don't have a lot of cars either.
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Yeah, if you don't have crosswalks is probably not a
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super busy area but that's that was his whole thing was that?
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It is kind of like subjective again.
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I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for jaywalking.
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I'd like to see like what was the last person who actually got
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a ticket for jaywalking in California.
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But you could find that pretty easily but it's just not
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something. I think the police are out in
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force worried about jaywalking. Do you want to talk really
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briefly about the history of jaywalking and where did it come
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from? Is this a do you have the
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article in front of, you know, because I heard the story
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before. So when they went into a okay, I
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remember this story. The the law came onto the books.
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I think it was they said LA. But I thought it was New York.
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When the automobile first came out, obviously, the streets of
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like New York weren't full of cars because cars were a
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relatively new thing. So people would kind of like
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walk around, they would treat the streets.
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Like we walk are the horses walk here, then automobiles came
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around and Automobiles were like well we need to get through and
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you have all these dumb people walking on the street and we
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need to get through the term. J was actually a Slang term for
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an idiot back then so they would call it jaywalking.
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Meaning, you're an idiot walking in the street.
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But the law itself was pushed by a lot of automobile lobbyists,
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who wanted to kind of take over the roads because it would make
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it easier for drivers to get down the roads.
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So this law basically came about thanks to the wonderful practice
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that is lobbying the auto manufacturers were able to get
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that passed. And then once there was
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Jaywalking laws. Now the police could go out and
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every time you're walking across the street where you weren't
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supposed to, they could issue a lot of tickets and that stop
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people from walking. So that's why we have jaywalking
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laws, okay? One of the quotes from the
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article and I sent you was from assemblymember filtering who
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authored the bill and he said, it's still technically illegal
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to cross the street in the middle of the street.
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But we're directing law enforcement, not to cite people,
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unless there's an immediate Hazard.
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Okay, I get that. But I feel like after reading
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that quote that this is kind of like another police, don't have
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the right to do that and now it's, you know, get another
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thing that can easily be challenged in court for $20
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Yeah, I don't think it's that important again.
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I don't think it's really that big of a deal that we needed to
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address it but I guess it was big enough of a deal that
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somebody in the legislature said I'm going to write a bill to
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kind of move weekend jaywalking so that's the jaywalking law.
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So in case anybody says it's not illegal anymore you have one
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more point on that. Well, okay, so I sent you the
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article a few days ago, OC register on December 30th.
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Published article that in the five years, ending December
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thirty first, twenty Twenty-One, 375 pedestrians were killed by
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vehicles in Orange County. And then in the article that we
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were just talking about a minute ago in it, Los Angeles County
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from January to September 20, 22, 106 pedestrians have been
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killed by drivers so I thought that was Interesting.
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That like, they want to ease up on this, but at the same time, I
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am all for easing up on laws. Because why did we need 1
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more last year? Yeah, and this is just one out
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of 1 and obviously, that was the most important bill.
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We were going to cover tonight. So thank you, everyone for
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listening. We'll see, we'll see you on the
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next one. No, that's not their leak yet,
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don't jaywalk. That's the end of the story.
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All right, let's move on. Another one.
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Now everyone's an expert I want jaywalking is and whether it's
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illegal or not. What's the next one that you
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want to move on to? Well, regarding light laws.
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You mentioned the bicycle law. Yes.
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Yeah. And it was important to you tell
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us why, okay? So we'll do another second light
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one to keep the mood, kind of light for now, because we get
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into some heavier laws. From what I understand is, the
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law is now Now that if you are driving down the street and
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there's a bicyclist in your lane, you have to get over an
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entire Lane to get around that bicycles.
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You can no longer just kind of like scoot around them and kind
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of like just kind of ride the the row or like the line you
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have to get over an entire Lane. This bugs me because where I
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work in downtown San Diego. Ago.
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They have taken huge chunks of the Avenues taken all the park
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in a way and they have created specific bike Lanes.
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Now I know not every road has a bike lane but there have been
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numerous times. There was one egregious time
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that I was driving home from work.
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There was a bicyclist in the middle of the car Lane, not the
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bicycle lane. Now there's a lane.
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To the side specifically for bicyclists.
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Because they've been complaining about it and whining for it
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forever. They get their own lane, they're
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still riding the middle of the lane down this Avenue.
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Maybe this is just sour grapes. But at what point do we just
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admit defeat and say, that the bicyclist now own the roads we
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can never, if you're driving a car it's your you know you're
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going to be obsolete pretty soon and it's just going to be the
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bicyclists are going to rule everything.
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I feel like that's where we're going is like the bicyclist get
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All the benefits in the world. They get all the free passes but
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they never have to actually listen to any rules of the road
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anymore. That's how I feel.
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And I feel like this is just another one of those rules.
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It's like okay yeah sure. Let's just give more leeway to
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the bicyclist because that's what we're all trying to strive
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for is riding our bikes to work. Well, they're saving the Earth
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so they should have special privileges.
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Well, pretty soon the 405 is going to be like just all
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bicyclists and just cars like trying to like get around them
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but like the bicyclist will be like in all eight lanes and you
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won't be able to get around them because there won't be any free
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lanes. That would be the next thing.
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Well, no, you just wait soon. They will add a clause for this.
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It would be amended and they will say electric vehicles are
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exempt from that law. They don't have to switch lanes.
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They'll just like you're allowed because you're also saving the
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environment. So you get the same privileges.
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So someone's driving at us. Well, they can just run them
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right over. Well, not yet but coming soon
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I'm sure I mean soon. They will they will do that.
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Yeah, it's just another one of those laws.
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I'm like, I can't believe this is that important, I guess it
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was important to someone in the legislature.
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Also I just have a problem with bicyclist because in my
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neighborhood they ride down the sidewalk all the time.
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When I'm trying to walk my dog, it really freaks her out and she
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liked starts going crazy because there's a bike coming at her.
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Now blame her A big scary bicyclist, when you're a little
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dog but they just they don't list.
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They don't go on the roads like they're supposed to they ride on
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the sidewalks when they're not supposed to, they don't use the
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lanes when they're supposed to. Like, if you're going to give
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all these benefits to bicyclists, why don't you
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actually also put in some like penalties for these bicyclists
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of like, okay, we've given you this Lane, we've given you all
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these rules are giving you all these protections but guess
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what? You have to follow the rules.
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Of the road. You have to go with traffic.
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You can't be on a sidewalk. You'll get pulled over if you're
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doing this wrong and we're going to give you a ticket starting at
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$20. I think if you can't beat them,
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join them. I think you need to get a bike
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with a basket for Winnie. You know, she was like that.
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I don't know how she would feel you feel about that actually.
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She loves car rides so she might actually sit in a basket on a
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bike. See, just like yeah, I would
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not, I don't think I'd want to join them.
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I don't think I can make my commute on a bicycle.
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It took me three hours to get downtown, but I get a hell of a
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workout in. That's for sure.
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So, anyway, alright, next, next law, let's go a little bit more
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serious. Now because this Isn't all about
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like a silly laws. That happen in California.
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Well I'm sorry. That's good.
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I just think it's important to put.
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These are elected officials. So this is what they're working
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on. So it's important to point that
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out because yeah, we're laughing about it but getting paid to do
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this. So we're getting paid a lot of
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money. The white these laws.
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Yeah. Again they're per diems, they're
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getting their salaries. They're getting their benefits
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and this is what they're writing laws for is bicyclists and
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Lanes. All right, let's do a heavy one.
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Okay, what's a heavy? One that you want to?
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You think we should do you choose?
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So I chose the first two. Okay, that's see.
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I'm kind of looking at this article and see what else we
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have. Oh boy, there's so many, we
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already went over bicyclist. Let's talk about.
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Let's go real serious. We're going from bicycles to
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abortion. Let's talk about At the abortion
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law, that passed a b 2. 2, 2, 2, 2, 2 3.
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It protects a woman or pregnant person.
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Okay. Who chooses to end a pregnancy
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from prosecution? Even if the abortion, is self
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induced or happens outside the medical system, it also
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abolishes the requirement that Coroner's, investigator,
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silber's, and protect someone who helps a pregnant person and
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their pregnancy voluntarily from criminal or civil liability.
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Ability. So we already had, we talked
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about last time, we talked about prop one passing, so there's now
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a constitutional right to protect the right to abortion.
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You have this law that just passed.
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That basically says, you cannot go after someone criminally or
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civilly, for self induced or abortions, that happen outside
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of the medical system. So basically, there are no
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restrictions on abortions at all.
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At this point, even if you want a abortion that is not safe or
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not, medically sanctioned, that's okay too.
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And no one can criminally prosecute you, is that what I'm
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taking away from this is that there's something in there
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about. Also the person, assisting with
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the abortion is exempt from Criminal.
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Yes. Anybody who is this listing with
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this? Also will not be criminally
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liable. Okay.
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It could be people performing abortions or helping to perform
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abortions and if they're not medically license or anything
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they could still Not be liable under this law.
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I see lawsuits coming for that one because and an abusive baby
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daddy, whether it's spouse boyfriend domestic partner,
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whatever you want to call it, who doesn't want the baby?
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Which is often obviously a crisis pregnancy.
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Is that like a woman and isn't supported?
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And that's one reason why they would seek abortion but they may
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be trying to get away, he may want the abortion, she doesn't
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They perform the abortion via abusive matters and then claim
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that they were just assisting in it.
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And then it's his word against hers kind of thing.
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I think we're really good pie, and thought of that.
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Yeah. Because if it's outside of
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medical practices, Then yeah. I mean I guess you can't be
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criminally or civilly liable for trying to help perform an
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abortion. Right.
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I mean, I know I think in extremes I do but like, where do
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we draw the line office? There's no one obviously with
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the portion is just free for all this point and I think it's
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interesting that they passed that because they also passed SB
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1375, which is a new law that will give qualified nurse
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practitioners and certified nurse midwives the ability to
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perform first, trimester abortions in California, without
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the supervision of a physician. What was the point in passing
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that law? If we, Let anybody do abortions.
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Like it seems like there was no point.
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So before existing Law requires, if a physician was not in
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attendance at the delivery of the fetus, existing law requires
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the fetal, death to be handled as a death without medical
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attendance. This bill would delete the
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requirement that a coroner would hold in quest for death related,
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to her following known, or suspected self-induced, or
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criminal abortion, and would delete the requirement that an
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unintended fetal death. Be handled as a death without
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medical attendance. So to your scenario before prior
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to this bill, if it was done outside of medical attendance,
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it would be classified as a death, like a homicide.
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Now they've taken away that requirement.
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So it you're right. It is basically a free-for-all
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at this point under this bill so anyone can do it in anyone can
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anyone can perform or assist or do anything and they're not
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really going to be civilly, liable.
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I'm not really sure what the point of this is, is other than
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To say that California is the most free state when it comes to
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abortions and like, how freely you can get abortions.
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And I, why would you even need to go through this process
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outside of medical attendance, when, as we've discussed before,
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there are plenty of clinics and places that will help that are
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taxpayer-funded here in California, that will assist in,
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do it for you, if you can't pay for it.
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And that was, I guess, one of the laws With SB 1375 or one of
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the reasons is because allegedly not up Counties have abortion
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clinics. So this will enable easier
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access. But now for enabling easier
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access. Why do we need to be okay with
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self induced because okay. Obviously I'm against abortion
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and like I've said that many times but I don't want women to
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hurting themselves like we shouldn't.
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Nobody should want women hurting themselves in the process and
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self-induced abortion. That's I mean that's basically
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legalizes. The nightmare scenario that the
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left is always crying about which is wealth.
00:22:00
You outlaw abortion or make it extremely hard to get.
00:22:03
Women will just go to back alleys and get like, coat,
00:22:06
hanger abortions, right? This actually sounds like it
00:22:11
legalizes. The back alley coat, hanger,
00:22:14
abortions, because there's really no liability for anyone
00:22:18
who can Watch wants to assist outside of medical attendance.
00:22:22
So California has legalized this back alley way of doing it and
00:22:27
to me that that sounds kind of strange that they told the right
00:22:32
or people in Republican states that pass a lot of these
00:22:34
heartbeat bills 15 weeks. Well now all these women are
00:22:38
just going to go get illegal abortions yet.
00:22:42
California is now allowing illegal and unsafe abortions and
00:22:48
No one's going to be held criminally liable so they've
00:22:51
created their own nightmare scenario in by passing this
00:22:55
bill. Right.
00:22:57
Yeah, we stay around a term limit on this like.
00:23:00
Is it any week of pregnancy up to birth?
00:23:04
Like what you know to do? I saw something Pregnant.
00:23:13
Of course they have to put in performed by a person thin the
00:23:15
pregnant person perspective. Of course that makes literally
00:23:20
no sense. Bill Rogers, repairs.
00:23:24
Today I bring a civil action. It doesn't really say Due to do
00:23:34
who wrote this bill because this is dripping with Bay Area,
00:23:39
gobbledygook language. It's gotta be who wrote this has
00:23:45
got to be like Let me see. Oh yeah, makes sense Buffy
00:23:51
Wicks. Yep.
00:23:54
Buffy. Wicks is almost, I would
00:23:56
probably say on the level of radical as Scott wiener.
00:24:00
She doesn't get nearly enough attention, which I think is a
00:24:03
shame. I think Scott winner gets a lot
00:24:05
more attention because a lot of what he pushes seems to be stuff
00:24:10
involving your children. So obviously he gets a lot more
00:24:13
of the fire but the stuff that she pushes is this is Absolutely
00:24:18
awful. This has reproductive Justice is
00:24:22
the human right to control our body, sexuality, gender work,
00:24:24
and reproduction that right can only be achieved when all
00:24:28
people, particularly women and girls have on women and girls?
00:24:31
What about all pregnant people? That's not very, that's like a
00:24:37
derogatory term. Now how dare she say?
00:24:40
Just women and girls up what? I thought.
00:24:42
Men could get pregnant to the Joker.
00:24:45
Got pregnant in the new car. Mike book.
00:24:48
That was the whole hubbub today, if you saw that has the complete
00:24:52
economic social and political power, and resources to make
00:24:55
healthy decisions about their bodies, families, and
00:24:57
communities, in all areas, Alive's at the core of the
00:25:00
reproductive Justice. It's the belief that in the
00:25:01
right to bodily autonomy, the right to have children, the
00:25:05
right to not have children a right to parent the children.
00:25:07
We have dignity and respect and safe and sustainable
00:25:10
communities. Now, again, I don't want to go
00:25:12
to that. We've talked about this before
00:25:13
and we'll save it for another time, but I love that they
00:25:16
always put Here, the right to have children, is what we're
00:25:20
after. And protecting and you and I
00:25:22
both know that California. They don't really care about you
00:25:25
having children. They don't want you to have
00:25:27
children. They want you to not have
00:25:29
children, but but if you do take them to drag shows that your
00:25:34
local public school. Yeah.
00:25:37
If you do have children, just let you know that the state does
00:25:40
own them, you have no say over that across the country.
00:25:43
People have been criminally prosecuted for having
00:25:45
miscarriages, or still Burrs or four.
00:25:47
Self managing an abortion. I don't want to know what a
00:25:52
self-managed. How you self-managed an
00:25:54
abortion? But it sounds awful.
00:25:57
That just sounds. I mean, that sounds criminal in
00:26:01
my mind but it's no longer criminal in California, trying
00:26:06
to find a nice. Can I say this?
00:26:08
I don't know what to get you shut down, but it is utter
00:26:11
bullshit that they keep saying, that women are getting
00:26:15
criminalized for having miscarriages.
00:26:18
I'm so tired of that argument. Go on curse words.
00:26:26
No it is. It's just nonsense.
00:26:28
It's absolute nonsense. Nobody, nobody is getting
00:26:31
criminalized for having an abortion that is never had or
00:26:33
not sir. For having a miscarriage that
00:26:35
has never happened. Yeah, that's a weird but æneas
00:26:39
miscarriage like it's just yeah I don't think I've ever heard of
00:26:45
a story of someone going to jail for a miscarriage like that
00:26:49
doesn't but no there's no example in my mind of someone
00:26:56
who's been criminally prosecuted for miscarriages or still pers
00:27:00
for that matter. Like, who's been criminally
00:27:02
prosecuted for a stillbirth or a miscarriage to say, You had
00:27:07
intent on you know ending this the life of this baby and
00:27:14
self-managing abortion. That's different.
00:27:17
You haven't met your trying to? Yeah, that's you.
00:27:20
Killed your baby. Yeah, you had the intent to,
00:27:24
there was something living in you and you killed it.
00:27:27
So you didn't Yeah. That's that's very frustrating
00:27:31
to me, miscarriages. Spontaneous miscarriage has to
00:27:34
be correct. Are so common, they're still
00:27:38
calling. So if that were the case, then
00:27:41
when that would be I'm sorry. Birthing persons would be being
00:27:45
arrested left and right. So existing Law requires a
00:27:49
corner, to register a fetal death after 20 weeks of
00:27:52
gestation. Unless it is the result of a
00:27:54
legal abortion. Got this?
00:27:57
This Geez, this just keeps getting worse like this.
00:28:03
This bill is really really awful.
00:28:07
It's so that's the existing law and then obviously they got rid
00:28:09
of it. Pregnancies can end of the range
00:28:16
of outcomes Nationwide as many as one in five known
00:28:20
pregnancies. End in miscarriage and
00:28:22
California, as many as two thousand three hundred sixty
00:28:24
five pregnancies per year and in stillbirth meeting per natal
00:28:28
loss. After 20 weeks gestation, many
00:28:31
pregnancy, losses have no explanation.
00:28:34
People also need to end pregnancies by abortion,
00:28:36
including self-managed abortion. Which means outside of the.
00:28:41
Yeah. So this bill on that note this
00:28:47
Bills going into effect this year.
00:28:48
So that should be interesting to see.
00:28:51
Get it on the first or is it going in like July?
00:28:56
Yes. Beginning January 1st 2023.
00:29:00
This is one of the bills that will go into effect.
00:29:02
It's already gone into effect, so, okay and me being an
00:29:05
extremist This is such a segue for assisted euthanization of
00:29:13
ourselves like this is, you know, like yeah you know I mean
00:29:17
we're already on our way there but you know that this is just
00:29:19
going to be one of those things. Well it's okay to, you know,
00:29:22
kill the unborn baby. It's okay to self-induce an
00:29:25
abortion. Why would?
00:29:26
Why isn't it okay to help someone?
00:29:30
I felt so funny. I'm sorry.
00:29:34
I should not laugh at that at all.
00:29:35
It's not funny. It's sick.
00:29:38
Well, it's funny because it's just so crazy.
00:29:41
That this is where we've gotten that, like, the left has gotten
00:29:44
so obsessed with pushing abortion rights as far as
00:29:49
possible. That they're just like
00:29:52
California just trying to out Lefty like the rest of the
00:29:55
country and be like look at how free and open we are.
00:29:58
You can self manage your own abortion, you won't get
00:30:00
criminally prosecuted for it. So I like to ask if abortion
00:30:06
were done to be a gunshot then would you want it illegal?
00:30:10
Mmm. Yeah, it's a good question
00:30:14
because guns are icky in California, which brings us to,
00:30:19
I guess our next law which they kind of like intermingle and
00:30:28
sort of what the framework of how.
00:30:30
This bill this abortion bill is a kind of the mirror opposite of
00:30:35
what they were trying to prevent in Texas and in Stead California
00:30:42
came up with a law to kind of thumb their nose at Texas and
00:30:48
this is SB. Hold on language.
00:30:51
Sb7 1327 and so basically this was all predicated on the bill
00:30:59
that was passed in Texas where private citizens could basically
00:31:05
go out. And if someone was performing an
00:31:08
abortion illegally private citizens would basically have
00:31:11
the right to bring a civil or criminal action, civil action
00:31:16
and two and then kind of report all these people and in the idea
00:31:20
was that you are kind of marshaling all the private
00:31:24
citizens to keep an eye out for a legal abortions that are being
00:31:27
performed in the state of Texas that would go against their
00:31:31
there. I think it's a heartbeat Bill
00:31:33
somewhat, like, 15 weeks So in a way, because Gavin Newsom has to
00:31:40
pick a fight with every Republican.
00:31:42
Governor that is as popular more popular than him.
00:31:46
He said well guess what? We're going to do the same thing
00:31:50
but we're going to do it for guns and basically what it does,
00:31:58
it allows private citizens to collect 10 dollars by suing.
00:32:01
Those who make or sell illegal ghost guns, or assault-style
00:32:06
weapons. To to do.
00:32:10
And basically it's all predicated on this shaky shaky
00:32:14
legal precedents. That is also starred in Texas.
00:32:17
They're not even sure if like, Texas can do what it's doing but
00:32:20
California is basically saying, well, if Texas can get away with
00:32:23
it, then we're going to try and get away with it.
00:32:27
It's another one of those infringement laws on gun rights.
00:32:32
I think it has to do with Like manufacturers and retail stores
00:32:37
can also be sued for ten thousand dollars.
00:32:40
It's basically a way to scare more gun manufacturers and
00:32:42
retailers out of the state, but it is interesting that the law,
00:32:46
the abortion law we were just talking about.
00:32:50
Good is what Texas was trying to prevent, which was illegal
00:32:55
abortions. So, the Texas, if Texas people
00:32:58
could sue California for performing the abortions that
00:33:02
are illegal. That's exactly what they're for.
00:33:07
There's calls this a political stunt, which it is, but it's,
00:33:10
yeah, they're mad at Texas for, for the severe.
00:33:15
Abortion law. So then first we're like we're
00:33:19
The state for abortions, come to California and will help you get
00:33:22
an abortion will help you get an abortion legally will allow you
00:33:27
apparently to come here and do a self-induced abortion and we'll
00:33:32
make sure that nurse practitioners can a Form first,
00:33:34
trimester abortions, all up and down the state where they don't
00:33:37
have abortion clinics. So what is the point of the law?
00:33:41
Because it's so very relevant. It's just So this cow matters
00:33:47
article, they go on to say that first of all, SB 1327 would
00:33:52
self-destruct if the Texas Supreme Court or the u.s.
00:33:54
Supreme Court invalidates the Texas law.
00:33:57
Secondly, there's very little chance that there would be a
00:33:59
successful lawsuit. The firearms that are
00:34:01
specifically targeted by the legislation already illegal
00:34:04
under California law and the major arms makers, that Newsome
00:34:07
implies would be punished. Take great pains, not to sell
00:34:10
the prohibited products, makers of Black Market, Ghost guns,
00:34:14
could be sued. But only if one could find them,
00:34:16
and even if they were identified, they're not likely
00:34:19
to be wealthy enough to attract the attention of a fee.
00:34:21
Motivated attorney It's interesting.
00:34:26
The language I'm looking at right now, says, the bill would
00:34:28
make these Provisions inoperative upon invalidation of
00:34:33
a specified in a specified law, in Texas, and will repeal its
00:34:37
provisions on January 1st of the following year?
00:34:41
Well, I mean, if a law is found to be unconstitutional and
00:34:47
against both the California and the US Constitution, you don't
00:34:51
get time to wind it down. It's immediately struck down,
00:34:56
but they want to make sure that they're getting okay.
00:35:00
Yeah, sorry the article goes on to say finally, a federal law
00:35:03
right to were roundly, protects Firearms manufacturers from
00:35:06
liability suits? Yeah.
00:35:10
So this is absolutely a political stunt, so
00:35:13
congratulations, your tax dollars.
00:35:15
Well, spent on another law, that was just a political stunt for
00:35:19
Gavin Newsom. And likely if the Supreme Court
00:35:23
ends up turning over the Texas law, this will also go the way
00:35:27
of the dodo bird as well. There is another law regarding
00:35:32
guns that they did pass. Let me see if I can find it, you
00:35:36
do too. And then I'm going to let you
00:35:41
pick the next one. Oh my goodness.
00:35:44
I'm looking at all these laws and there's so many I don't have
00:35:48
it specifically in front of me. They did pass a law that
00:35:54
prevents the selling of firearms.
00:35:59
And ammunition on any state ground state.
00:36:04
Yes, State grounds which basically means all those gun
00:36:08
shows that are held on like State fairgrounds and stuff like
00:36:10
that are basically you can no longer have any of those.
00:36:15
So I hope you enjoyed like your big gun shows like the Del Mar
00:36:19
one that comes down here. Well it's interesting is that
00:36:23
brings in money for the state. Yeah.
00:36:27
Because they mean, rent it and they pay a whole bunch of money
00:36:29
to rent out that. I'm sure.
00:36:31
Every vendor has to get a city business license, you know.
00:36:36
And then they Brent the facility which makes money.
00:36:38
And then, of course, it brings interest, which brings in local
00:36:41
money. So, why would they want to do
00:36:44
away with that? Because guns are icky.
00:36:50
That's basically California's position on all gun stuff.
00:36:53
Guns are a key. All right, I've already picked
00:36:56
two in a row so why don't you pick the next one?
00:37:00
All right, we're going to kind of lighten silly, the pink tax.
00:37:04
Oh good. I was holding stuff.
00:37:06
Yes, hoping that was the one you'd pick employee.
00:37:12
So this would prohibit an individual or business from
00:37:16
charging a different Price for a product based on the customers
00:37:19
gender by the ending, this practice, this bill would
00:37:21
eliminate the pink tax, which supporters called the additional
00:37:24
cost of female consumers to products are considered
00:37:27
substantially similar. If they share a brand as well as
00:37:29
similar materials, functions and Designs.
00:37:32
So the bill authorizes, the Attorney General to seek a court
00:37:35
order to stop violations and courts to impose a penalty of as
00:37:39
much as ten thousand dollars for the first violations and 1
00:37:43
for each subsequent violation. so basically, A product such as
00:37:51
razor blades, I guess, shampoo. What not?
00:37:55
I don't deodorant, hmm. I guess they charge more, if
00:37:58
it's marketed towards women and it has more feminine colors.
00:38:01
I should've said, way then, I should have said different
00:38:04
gender and no, I'm serious. I don't think that the word
00:38:09
woman is in the bill. So So it could be, is it a blue
00:38:16
tax as well? Like, if they over?
00:38:18
So, if they overcharged guys products, because it's marketed
00:38:21
towards guys, is that like the same thing.
00:38:25
So, like, if guys products are more than what women's products
00:38:27
are, is it the same thing? But, but that's see so many
00:38:33
things about this. I sent you a screenshot.
00:38:36
Do you have it? I do get that.
00:38:39
I did. So, because it made me laugh.
00:38:44
Like I said, the word woman is not in this bill.
00:38:48
And this is a tick tock that Gavin did a while back, they
00:38:53
were very excited about this. So, I took a screenshot of The
00:38:55
Tick-Tock, the intro. I don't see it yet.
00:39:00
I'm hold on. Keep talking talking to me.
00:39:05
So, it's pulling up. It's okay.
00:39:11
I really want someone to myself. First off, my opinion on this is
00:39:19
that it's not going to lower the cost of items marketed towards
00:39:24
females. It's just going to raise the
00:39:25
cost of items were going to towards Mayo.
00:39:27
Like okay, we're not going to you know, lower this pink
00:39:30
deodorant. We're just going to raise the
00:39:31
cost of the blue children. Bam done.
00:39:34
So that's it. Nothing.
00:39:35
Like, that's why I figured of course.
00:39:37
But he he says but could you read it to me these?
00:39:42
Because I, it's very small, my skirt.
00:39:43
Yeah, it says products. With packaging and designed
00:39:47
targeted for women cost approximately 2 dollars
00:39:50
extra a year. And his caption says California
00:39:54
has eliminated. The pink tax, little
00:39:57
hand-clapping emoji and then the first comment under is yah and
00:40:05
we love you but he says Walnut. Like, targeted for women.
00:40:14
I'm not even trying to be funny, but they, they keep doing what
00:40:18
they're accusing. All of us doing of this whole
00:40:20
like, gender Rising thing and gender is fluid and how dare we
00:40:24
say woman and these products are geared towards women.
00:40:26
No, it's geared towards person who identifies the system,
00:40:29
whatever. But yet he goes, and uses the
00:40:31
verbiage that we're not supposed to be using.
00:40:33
And so, and then they call it pink tax because they're
00:40:36
associating pink with women which The Stereotype that has a
00:40:42
pink but it's just like you're doing it wrong cabin.
00:40:46
Yeah, on a serious note. Free market Society.
00:40:56
Well yeah. I mean you would have waiting so
00:40:58
to be yes. And I guess if you don't like it
00:41:04
or if you know if you if you don't like these products, I'm
00:41:07
going to pull the screenshot away.
00:41:10
I mean I guess if you just don't like it and you find that these
00:41:13
products don't to you you can just pay for something else.
00:41:17
Like I've heard before that, I've heard like friends who I
00:41:23
know who identify as Women, because they were women say,
00:41:29
like, oh, I'll buy men's razors because men's razors are cheaper
00:41:32
than women's razors. Now, I don't know if that's
00:41:34
true. It's really true.
00:41:37
Maybe it's because really the same but that maybe they are
00:41:41
completely the same. And so I've heard that before.
00:41:48
I pull up this article. I wonder if I could scan real
00:41:51
quick. I just find it.
00:41:54
Like you're saying it is interesting that if we believe
00:41:58
in gender fluidity, and that gender is just sort of this
00:42:03
social construct and they say stuff like pregnant person's
00:42:06
then. Why do they Champion these bills
00:42:08
that are exclusively for women? And it may backfire in a way of
00:42:14
like what if guys stuff turns out to be more expensive than
00:42:18
women and it's the same exact thing?
00:42:20
What if I go to pick up a bar of Old Spice deodorant and I go,
00:42:25
hey, this Old Spice. Deodorant is more expensive than
00:42:29
the women's Dove deodorant. Like, do I get to make a claim
00:42:33
because they're technically the same thing?
00:42:36
Like, where, how do you define like what's exactly?
00:42:39
The same thing? That's kind of like I'm trying
00:42:43
to think of a good example, it's out.
00:42:48
It's kind of like how pharmaceutical companies get to
00:42:52
continue the copyright of something and hold the copyright
00:42:56
of it or patent for it forever is because they'll change like a
00:42:59
little thing here and there. So this drug that's supposed to
00:43:02
be generic is now not generic anymore because it has one
00:43:06
compound different. So how do you tell if my Old
00:43:11
Spice deodorant is the same exact thing as your Dove women's
00:43:19
deodorant and what if I find a men's product that is all
00:43:25
natural? Like, there's some guys
00:43:27
deodorant that's like all natural, like $14 a bar.
00:43:31
Do I get to compare that to women's deodorant?
00:43:33
Like, I guess it's sort of subjective and I guess it's up
00:43:39
to The state to kind of poop, like, who reports this is, it
00:43:45
private citizens because the state's not going around looking
00:43:49
at Target and going like, oh, these deodorants look the same.
00:43:52
But once more expensive, guess we're suing you in a lever
00:43:56
because it's the same thing. If next week you decide to do an
00:44:02
experiment to figure out if Dove and Old Spice are actually the
00:44:06
same and you're paying twice as much or something.
00:44:09
And then you let the Attorney General know and they do in fact
00:44:13
impose a fine it's not going to you.
00:44:15
You were not hurt you the consumer.
00:44:18
Don't get that money. It's just gonna go to the state.
00:44:22
No, it doesn't help them. Like they're cheering for this
00:44:27
passage of the pink tax and they're going to save you so
00:44:29
much money. By getting money from the no
00:44:33
longer free markets. Yeah well it's another one of
00:44:39
those laws I think that and people will set like the
00:44:43
comments all say like yeah that's queen.
00:44:45
Go we love you guy by Newsome but it's not something like you
00:44:50
and your daddy. I just felt my stomach queasy.
00:45:00
It's not something that's like going to change overnight.
00:45:02
It's not like you're going to walk into Target or wherever.
00:45:06
And all of a sudden be like, oh, mighty odorant doesn't cost more
00:45:10
than the guys deodorant anymore. Thanks Gavin.
00:45:12
Newsom like it's just sort of like an empty victory of like a.
00:45:17
We did this and we got rid of the pink tax because there's a
00:45:21
law. If you want to, you can report
00:45:23
it and these companies will have to abide by it, but that's it's
00:45:27
not going to overnight. Like you're not going to you
00:45:30
know this is a January first bill.
00:45:32
This is already in effect. You're not going to see a
00:45:34
difference right away. But it is what maybe people in
00:45:40
the comments were watching. Maybe they are, they can let me
00:45:42
know, or let us know. Do they think?
00:45:44
There's a big difference between guys products and girls products
00:45:47
when it comes to basically the same thing?
00:45:50
I don't know, I don't really look at girls products when I go
00:45:53
into Target, so I know shocker. But if you want to let us know
00:46:00
in the comments, I I don't think it's a big difference.
00:46:02
And again, not really changing sort of the big important issues
00:46:07
of California. All Right, Moving On.
00:46:11
Let's see. Do do do, do do.
00:46:13
Do, I'm trying to look through all the ones out.
00:46:17
There was one I wanted to talk about Out, that is going into
00:46:21
effect. It's not going into effect on
00:46:23
January 1st, it's going into effect or they are on a
00:46:26
timeline, who knows, what's going to get pushed back or not?
00:46:30
It's this whole care Court idea and I'm going to try and boil
00:46:33
down. What the heck this care Court
00:46:36
thing is we talked about it on the last podcast.
00:46:39
What care cord is care court is basically people petitioners can
00:46:48
file a petition. Did you choose to allow for
00:46:54
people to sort of be submitted to court if they have like
00:46:58
schizophrenic issues, or mental health issues?
00:47:02
It passed with like resounding support from both parties.
00:47:07
Now, that's not saying much because the Republican party
00:47:09
doesn't really exist in Sacramento but either way, only
00:47:12
two of the states Andhra try legislators vote against it and
00:47:16
it was signed into law on September 14th.
00:47:20
It will theoretically, theoretically work like this,
00:47:23
family close friends First Responders and behavioral health
00:47:25
workers will be able to submit a petition to court signed under
00:47:28
penalty of perjury on behalf of a person with untreated
00:47:31
schizophrenia Spectrum. Room or other psychotic
00:47:33
disorders, that shows why they qualify for care Court.
00:47:37
In order to qualify the person must be either unlikely to
00:47:40
survive safely without supervision or be a threat to
00:47:44
themselves or others without support.
00:47:46
Petition must include either an affidavit from a licensed
00:47:49
Healthcare professional to examine them or try to or proof.
00:47:52
The person was recently detained under intensive treatment the
00:47:56
court would then order a clinical evaluation of person
00:47:59
and review the evaluation see if the person qualifies for care
00:48:01
court services. If they do, they'll get a legal
00:48:04
counsel and a supporter and Advocate to walk them through
00:48:08
the process as well as a care plan that can include
00:48:10
recommended treatment medication and housing medication can be
00:48:14
court ordered but not forcibly administered.
00:48:16
During 12 months a participant will have to attend hearings to
00:48:19
make sure they're adhering to the plan and counties are
00:48:21
providing the court-ordered Services following a year.
00:48:26
A person could receive another year of treatment or a
00:48:29
graduation plan, which would not be enforceable by the Or if a
00:48:32
person received the court mandate services but failed to
00:48:35
complete their treatment. They could be considered by the
00:48:37
court for conservatorship though.
00:48:39
Refusing medication alone will be grounds for failure.
00:48:42
The idea is to make it easier for people who need help but may
00:48:46
not be seeking it to get it before they lose legal autonomy
00:48:50
or end up in jail. So long story short, it is going
00:48:57
to be implemented in seven out of the 58 counties San La Orange
00:49:04
County, San Diego County. I like to say, Placer county is
00:49:08
another one. I can't think of the other one,
00:49:11
but there are Seven Counties, they're kind of like rolling it
00:49:14
out little by little. So they're letting sort of the
00:49:16
big counties would probably the most homeless, try it out first,
00:49:24
which probably might not be the greatest idea because they're
00:49:26
also the busiest. So there's probably gonna be a
00:49:28
lot of demand for it. Orange County's ready to go.
00:49:32
According To them because they said they already have a drug
00:49:35
and mental health court. So they're kind of already ready
00:49:37
for this. It's an idea to kind of tackle
00:49:42
homelessness by forcing. A lot of the homeless, with
00:49:45
mental issues into this care court system.
00:49:48
Basically saying, you're going to be ordered to go through this
00:49:52
mental rehab and all of that you're, you know, we're going to
00:49:56
keep checking up on you. If you're not listening to it
00:49:59
there will be consequences so you can't fall out of this
00:50:03
program and I guess that's sort of the carrot and the stick.
00:50:07
It's like you petition. The court says, hey yeah, looks
00:50:11
like you need some help. They're going to order you on
00:50:14
this plan if not, or if you don't make it through the whole
00:50:18
12 months, then we can either have a conservatorship or put
00:50:23
you in jail. The problem with this is is the
00:50:29
framework for how they would do. This is kind of stymied by this
00:50:36
what they call LPS. A ships.
00:50:40
And I hope I'm not getting like super wonky for the listeners
00:50:43
out there who are probably like I'm falling asleep because I
00:50:46
don't have any idea. What the heck this guy's talking
00:50:47
about. LPS stands for the lanterman
00:50:53
Petra short act which in 1967 was sort of when they started to
00:51:01
phase out. Mental institutions here in
00:51:04
California, it used to be and the olden days, you know, if
00:51:09
there was a crazy person on the street, you'll Patty wagon can
00:51:13
roll up with a straitjacket and say, okay, you're coming with
00:51:16
us, you're a little bit of a danger to society.
00:51:18
You look like you're out of your mind.
00:51:20
Ronald Reagan of all, people was actually the governor when he
00:51:24
signed this and started to get rid of all mental health
00:51:27
institutions in California, which I think set us on this
00:51:31
path of where we are now. So the Lanta this whole LPS
00:51:35
conservatorship is very hard to get.
00:51:40
It's not an easy process. They made it hard on purpose.
00:51:44
A lot of people including one of our favorite state senators, all
00:51:48
the enough Scott wiener is actually been trying to loosen
00:51:52
it to allow for more conservatorships of people with
00:51:55
mental disorders who are kind of out there because they know that
00:52:00
this law has gotten a little bit too.
00:52:03
Strict and they kind of need to relax it if they're going to
00:52:06
tackle this homelessness issue. So we've kind of come full
00:52:10
circle since 1967 where they got rid of the mental health
00:52:13
institutions. They thought it was a good thing
00:52:15
because they're protecting civil rights.
00:52:17
Now, we're sort of all the way back around and we've seen the
00:52:20
result of 50 years or so 40 or 50 years of what happens when
00:52:26
you kind of Let It Go for too long.
00:52:27
Now, you have cities that are basically overrun with homeless
00:52:30
people and a lot of them dealing with mental health issues.
00:52:34
Who? So that's going into effect in
00:52:37
October. It will, I should say it's set
00:52:40
to go into effect by October, they pushed it back already from
00:52:43
June. Now, it's going to be October.
00:52:45
We'll see what happens, but both of our counties will have care
00:52:48
courts by October of this year. So thoughts on that, while I
00:52:55
take a sip of my tea after all, that, that was a lot.
00:52:59
I feel like, wow, I don't I don't even my thoughts are
00:53:04
actually all over the place right now, so I don't have any
00:53:08
weight yet. I will say this.
00:53:12
Tell us her hands, you know, I'll try to say this without
00:53:15
throwing up in my mouth. This lines up perfectly, this is
00:53:20
will be the first year of newsom's new Administration.
00:53:24
So he still has four more years to go.
00:53:27
If this ends up being a success, this might be the biggest
00:53:32
political success of his entire political career.
00:53:38
And it would, I mean, we already talked about he wants to run for
00:53:42
president. This would be a huge feather in
00:53:46
his cap to kind of Look, I was the governor and you have to put
00:53:52
your hands on your hips. I was the governor who solved
00:53:56
homelessness in California, which nobody said was possible
00:53:59
and everyone made fun of California.
00:54:01
For having homeless I solve homelessness.
00:54:04
Now, the far left Progressive wing of the party who is all up
00:54:09
in arms about civil rights, and you can't just scoop up people
00:54:12
and throw them into these facilities or these rehab
00:54:15
facilities may not like it. But when you're running for
00:54:19
president, yeah, doesn't make that big of a difference to him.
00:54:24
Especially we trying to actually win the White House, but it
00:54:27
would be the biggest political Victory if it pays off for him,
00:54:31
if it turns into a disaster and turns into a boondoggle.
00:54:36
Completely different story and we'll just be another smear on
00:54:39
his whole career as governor. Which way do you want it to go?
00:54:47
I selfishly, you know, it's tough because I want it to
00:54:52
succeed because, well, it's just begun gotten to be such a bad
00:54:57
issue in California. I mean, you can't go anywhere.
00:55:01
Lots of places in my neighborhood.
00:55:02
There's a lot of homeless, we don't even feel safe walking
00:55:05
down the street, you know, downtown has gotten really,
00:55:10
really bad under Todd Gloria. So, on one hand, I'm kind of
00:55:13
like, We kind of need to do something on the other hand, I
00:55:18
don't want Gavin Newsom to get the political win, but then
00:55:22
that's just being really selfish Eileen that I want.
00:55:25
I want something to be done like something has to be done,
00:55:28
whether it's Gavin Newsom, or the ghost of Ronald Reagan, I
00:55:32
don't really care. Something has to happen here
00:55:34
with the homeless and I'll be interested to see how this kind
00:55:39
of pans out in the future. Yeah, it will be interesting to
00:55:45
see how how long is that cuz don't, they have to kind of
00:55:50
report back on things, but then, you know, like a year or
00:55:53
whatever. Like, you know what?
00:55:56
For though, I do like do they decide it succeeds or it
00:56:00
doesn't? I think there's probably going
00:56:04
to be there's probably some oversight committee who's
00:56:06
watching all of this and what's going on?
00:56:07
All right, the first couple of years are going to be tough
00:56:12
because you don't really have an idea of like how much it's going
00:56:17
to cost to do all this. Like the state is basically
00:56:20
funding, all these counties to do this and put all this into
00:56:23
motion. They, you know, they have no
00:56:27
idea. One of the quotes I saw was even
00:56:30
like how many people you have. if the employee is like a shot
00:56:33
in the dark of like, You know I know are you going to get
00:56:37
court-appointed attorneys like private attorneys, who will work
00:56:40
for a reduced wage or hourly wage to do it?
00:56:45
Which is something they already do?
00:56:46
They have court appointed attorneys for conservatorships
00:56:49
but that's a different type of conservatorships.
00:56:52
So would that be something that they start to implement or ask
00:56:55
them? There's a lot of questions I
00:56:58
think I was actually discussing this with somebody on Twitter
00:57:00
and they're like, do you have any details?
00:57:02
And I was like, no, even someone like me who's in this area of
00:57:07
Law and knows this, I'm sitting there going, I have no idea
00:57:12
actually I've no idea what was going to happen, but it's going
00:57:16
to be interesting. So for all the people who are in
00:57:18
those counties, keep an eye out because by October things might
00:57:23
change, maybe they won't change. Well, it's okay.
00:57:27
It's not going to change that quick actually.
00:57:29
No. And so, I actually think if it
00:57:32
is successful, it's not going to be successful.
00:57:34
For the next four years, there's going to be a lot of trial and
00:57:36
error. Yeah.
00:57:37
And so, even if they're seeing some improvement, I don't think
00:57:40
it's going to actually be a big win for Gavin during his time
00:57:44
here in California was our governor.
00:57:46
Like, I think we would be looking at closer to, like,
00:57:49
eight ten years down the road to really see if there's been a big
00:57:53
Improvement, big success. Because like you said, there's
00:57:56
so much unknown. Yeah.
00:57:57
And and there was gonna be a lot of trial and error which sorry
00:58:02
conservatives. But we're going to have to give
00:58:03
some room. For grace for that.
00:58:04
We can't start complaining in a year when things didn't
00:58:07
literally have this big impact because it's just, there are so
00:58:10
many complicated pieces to it. Yeah.
00:58:14
And if anybody knows anything about the government, it never
00:58:16
gets rolled out perfectly on the first.
00:58:18
Try if ever it gets rolled out perfectly or well.
00:58:23
And I wouldn't be surprised if there is a ton of lawsuits from
00:58:26
like the ACLU that hold it up. And like so I wouldn't be
00:58:30
surprised if stuff like it gets caught in federal court gets
00:58:33
caught in state. Cork goes up to the California
00:58:35
Supreme Court, but it did get a lot of legislative support
00:58:40
because I guess people were like, it's something.
00:58:43
It's at least some sort of solution.
00:58:46
Some. All right, got a couple more
00:58:49
before we finish off the night. Is there any that you want to
00:58:54
specifically focus on? I think the SP 107.
00:58:58
It's important. The transgender youth.
00:59:04
I would like for you to talk about this because there's
00:59:06
obviously a lot of legal stuff and I have a question for you
00:59:09
after you speak. Sure.
00:59:13
So this is one of this Ascot I think this was with Scott wiener
00:59:17
Bill, not surprisingly as transforms.
00:59:22
No, no, actually a be 107 so it's not actually Scott wiener
00:59:27
because it came from the assembly.
00:59:29
Let's say, apologies Scott. We I'm okay sorry, it's got
00:59:33
wiener. Oh no, wait Sb.
00:59:37
OH they got it. Wrong on the article, it's SB
00:59:39
1070. I'm looking at the the Fox 11
00:59:43
article that list them all out. So I retract my apology my
00:59:46
apologies to is goner. Yeah, absolutely, retractor
00:59:49
apology. No apologies.
00:59:53
No, apologies Scott wiener II had a feeling.
00:59:57
This was his bill because he always tweets about About it and
00:59:59
brags about it. The bill aims to stop other
01:00:03
states from punishing, children who come to California for
01:00:06
transgender surgeries. And other gender affirming care
01:00:08
is designed to stop Texas and other conservative States.
01:00:11
From removing children from parents, who allow them to
01:00:14
receive gender affirming? Healthcare defined as medically.
01:00:16
Necessary. Healthcare that respects, the
01:00:18
gender identity of the patient as experienced and defined by
01:00:21
the patient, I would include hormone therapy to suppress
01:00:25
secondary sex characteristics and other treatments to a Find
01:00:29
the patient's appearance or physical body with the patient's
01:00:32
gender identity. The law will block out of state
01:00:35
subpoenas stop Health Providers from sharing information with
01:00:38
out of state entities, related to gender for me care and wicked
01:00:41
California, courts authority to make an initial child.
01:00:44
Custody determinant is the child is in California with proposed.
01:00:48
Obtaining gender affirming care. Yeah, this one is excusing.
01:00:54
This one has a whole bunch of legal issues because first off,
01:01:03
if these are true children and they are minors, you don't have
01:01:08
the authority as a state on its own to basically, tell the
01:01:12
parents to go pound sand if they're in another state.
01:01:16
So if a child decides against their parents will I'm going to
01:01:19
somehow get to California. I'm going to get the surgery.
01:01:23
I don't know how they're going to get the surgery unless
01:01:26
someone's paying for it or like an ant.
01:01:31
Colors to like, but the parents still have legal control over
01:01:35
their children. So the fact that California is
01:01:38
basically saying, nope, if a state says, hey, bring my
01:01:43
children back, they're not supposed to be in California,
01:01:44
getting gender affirming Surgery.
01:01:46
California is saying, yeah, we're not going to listen to
01:01:50
your subpoenas and we're not going to abide by it.
01:01:54
It's interesting in the Text of this, the United States
01:01:59
Constitution, generally requires the state to give full faith and
01:02:02
credit to the public acts records and judicial presents
01:02:04
proceedings of every other state.
01:02:07
Existing law authorizes upon the demand made by another state,
01:02:10
the extradition of a person charge of command act in the
01:02:13
state. The results of crime demanding
01:02:14
State existing law, says for procedures, by which a person
01:02:17
may enforce a judgment, for the payment of money child custody
01:02:20
issue, orders by the court of a state, other than California.
01:02:25
So Scott wiener already admits in the first opening line that
01:02:31
the United States Constitution requires that states, give full
01:02:35
faith and credit to their laws and their proceedings.
01:02:40
This bill basically says shove it up your bum because we're not
01:02:43
going to listen to that. So while we say that we're not
01:02:46
going to listen to it so if Texas says you need to send
01:02:50
these children back, we have a child custody order California's
01:02:54
going to say nope sorry go pound sand so I think there's going to
01:03:00
be a lot of issues. I would be surprised if this
01:03:03
becomes I want to be surprised if this actually gets sued in
01:03:07
federal court. And it actually makes it to the
01:03:10
Supreme Court because this is a big constitutional question of
01:03:14
the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the United States
01:03:17
Constitution and can States basically, just tell other
01:03:20
states to go, you know, go shove it because we want to push this
01:03:25
radical agenda and you can't make us say no or do anything
01:03:28
else. Even though in this is all what
01:03:30
we were saying before. Is that California doesn't view
01:03:34
you as the parent of your child California sees themselves as
01:03:38
the None of your child even if you're you're from out of state,
01:03:42
they still see it as your child. So those are my legal thoughts
01:03:47
on it. Is there an age minimum in this,
01:03:50
like three year olds like five year olds.
01:03:53
What is the age minimum here? If any 10 and up like, like
01:03:59
Define child in this bill, I want to know that.
01:04:04
Yeah, that would be in, you know, let's see.
01:04:06
Do a Ctrl f. Age agencies.
01:04:15
Marriage. Now, that's not what we want.
01:04:22
It doesn't say, it doesn't give an age so I guess any child.
01:04:25
So I'm sure that'll be challenged.
01:04:27
But then also like for divorced, parents in their custody
01:04:32
agreements, it will talk about most likely.
01:04:35
If you were smart in, your custody agreement is going to
01:04:37
talk about medical decisions for the child, you know, gets to
01:04:40
get. And so imagine like you know,
01:04:43
one parent is anti the gender affirming care, and the other
01:04:47
parents like about we're going to California and you You can't
01:04:49
do anything about it, like that's going to get challenged
01:04:51
right away and those in their home States at least.
01:04:54
Yep. So that'll be a whole mess
01:04:57
there. And this is just sad.
01:05:03
Anyway, I performing hysterectomies on girls, like
01:05:09
Prince your body. Don't do that to you again.
01:05:12
Kid, there's all like your rib cage Falls.
01:05:15
There's constant pain. Not necessarily all the time.
01:05:18
I don't have one, I was reading about them but I was because I
01:05:21
was like what you know, if they start performing these things on
01:05:24
women that are sometimes necessary like what happens with
01:05:28
the girls and then it's like why why do that to these young
01:05:31
girls? Anyway that's a different topic
01:05:33
but yeah I try to be I guess as a Californian.
01:05:40
I try to be as libertine in a lot of my social stuff.
01:05:44
In terms of, you know what, man, you do you like, you're an
01:05:49
adult, you can do what you want. I'm not going to sit here, but
01:05:54
exactly all of a sudden. I turn into a complete, like, I
01:05:58
go on the opposite end of the spectrum.
01:06:00
I become like, Mussolini where I'm like, nope, you start
01:06:04
touching kids and you start dealing with kids and all this
01:06:07
stuff. Nope, I put my foot down.
01:06:09
This isn't allowed like just stop like and and this is what I
01:06:13
think bugs me about Scott, Weiner.
01:06:15
And why I have this compulsive need that every time he tweets
01:06:18
out something stupid. I have to kind of reply to it
01:06:21
because I just feel like I always have to get a word in
01:06:24
with him. And I'm glad that he finally got
01:06:28
put on blast on the national stage for that.
01:06:30
Like, fo did you that? Did you follow that the whole
01:06:32
fo, like, voicemail or whatever? He did.
01:06:35
The jussie Smollett. He liked wrote out his Apple
01:06:41
notes like the voicemail of supposedly, because Charlie
01:06:46
Kirk, put Scott wiener on blast for one of the weird things.
01:06:52
Charlie, Kirk tweeted or posted it to his like National
01:06:55
audience. He's got millions of followers,
01:06:58
so everyone came out of the Woodworks and it's like
01:07:00
attacking them on social media. And so he showed a transcript of
01:07:07
Voicemail that somebody laughed and it was like the most
01:07:10
stereotypical like hey, you know, maggot is elbow pain, like
01:07:15
you should go and die and thought it.
01:07:17
But it's like, okay, well if you have the voicemail just you can
01:07:23
screen record it and you can play us the voicemail instead he
01:07:27
just had like an apple no with it with the transcript of what
01:07:32
they, what they said, let me guess you deleted it.
01:07:36
It before he could record it, I guess.
01:07:39
But yeah, that's not how transcripts come forward.
01:07:42
They don't come through into your Apple notes.
01:07:44
So a lot of people called him out for being the new jussie
01:07:47
Smollett for pretending like he's a big thing.
01:07:51
I mean, it's that's a dumb thing to call him out for because
01:07:56
there's lot worse, but start somewhere.
01:07:58
Yeah, I think there's a lot more anti Scott wiener people out
01:08:03
there than there was before. Anyway, the point of what I was
01:08:06
getting at was when it comes to kids, like just the kids, leave
01:08:11
the kids out of it, you know, just leave the kids out of it
01:08:14
and there should be this whole like let's just start basically
01:08:20
allowing the trafficking of children across state lines to
01:08:25
California, so they can do these gender affirming surgeries.
01:08:30
It's just so odd to me and just like, I don't know, I don't know
01:08:36
what else to say besides just like leave the kids alone and
01:08:39
and stop pushing all the stuff on them.
01:08:41
So I don't, this is a horrible law.
01:08:45
I hope it goes up to the Supreme Court and I hope the Supreme
01:08:47
Court knocks it down and saying like you can't do this and you
01:08:51
can't tell other states to go pound saying when it comes to
01:08:53
custody battles and what children can do and so Yeah.
01:09:00
I mean that's been the big thing is, I was trying to take away
01:09:03
parental rights like you say, leave the kids alone.
01:09:05
Yeah. That's been one of our biggest
01:09:07
fights. Yeah, it's alone.
01:09:11
Like yeah. Gun rights.
01:09:14
Yeah. We worked globally work.
01:09:17
Yeah. Just leave us alone.
01:09:19
Yep, just basically all of that. Leave us alone.
01:09:24
Let's see, let's get we being around out with a couple more
01:09:28
because there's a whole bunch but the Lunar New Year is now a
01:09:33
state holiday. Should you let I've been waiting
01:09:37
on that one, when this. All right.
01:09:40
To the 2023. The lunar.
01:09:43
You New Year falls on January 22nd.
01:09:46
Holliday coming soon. So I don't know if my work
01:09:51
recognize it, but I'm going to ask, I'm going to say, you know,
01:09:54
the Lunar New Year is always great.
01:09:55
Holiday workers can also choose to take off, genocide
01:09:59
Remembrance Day, which is April 24th.
01:10:02
That sounds like a cherry holiday Juneteenth or Native
01:10:06
American day September 22nd. So there's like and then there's
01:10:09
Cesar Chavez, which the courts are actually always shut down
01:10:12
for Cesar Chavez Day. Wage transparency.
01:10:18
This requires companies, that employ at least, 15 people to
01:10:20
include salary ranges in all job, postings of provide them
01:10:23
existing employees upon request. So, it just gives information
01:10:28
about salaries. They're going to be like one
01:10:31
dollar to 1 million dollars. It could be anywhere between
01:10:37
those things like a two-dollar 1550.
01:10:41
That's the new minimum wage now because of inflation.
01:10:45
Yep, that's another one. Like fifteen fifteen fifty.
01:10:47
An hour to 1 million dollars an hour 15 for the right to know
01:10:52
that went into effect. It was working dollars an hour
01:10:58
and fifteen dollars an hour for employers least least, six
01:11:03
cities raising their minimum wage higher than 1550.
01:11:06
I know San Diego just raised their minimum wage to 1630.
01:11:11
Yes, that should be great for small businesses.
01:11:14
Somehow we talked about jaywalking hit and run, there is
01:11:19
another one I saw that I thought oh this one this one's really
01:11:23
interesting. And I thought this whole thing
01:11:25
we were talking about like California misgender rain and
01:11:30
kind of all going against, they're not walking the walk and
01:11:33
talking the talk. They want to do this new thing
01:11:37
called the feather alert. Did you read this right?
01:11:42
Yes, I'm familiar. So, for people listening, the
01:11:46
feather alert allows law enforcement agencies to request
01:11:49
to CHP to initiate an alert when an indigenous person has been
01:11:52
kidnapped abducted or reported missing under unexplained or
01:11:56
suspicious circumstances, consistent with the Department's
01:12:00
existing Amber blue and silver alert.
01:12:02
This new feather alert program encourages the use of radio
01:12:05
television social media to spread information.
01:12:09
I just found that. Yeah, go ahead.
01:12:13
We're they pre I'm serious where they previously excluded from
01:12:17
Amber Alerts. That one confused me, I'm more
01:12:21
focused on the fact that they decided to call it the feather
01:12:25
alert. For indigenous people.
01:12:29
I was like, okay. I mean, it seems like you kind
01:12:34
of can't go in there. One of the most stereotypical
01:12:36
things about indigenous people of feather, like, feather,
01:12:39
headdresses and stuff like that, which not all indigenous people
01:12:43
wear. But sure that be like, if a
01:12:46
Mexican person went Missin, they'd be like a sombrero lawyer
01:12:49
or something like that. That's what it makes me feel
01:12:51
like so, and I can say that because my wife is Mexican.
01:12:55
So Should probably find that hilarious.
01:13:00
But now if you see an alert on your phone, for a feather alert,
01:13:04
you know what a feather alert is indigenous person has gone
01:13:06
missing. I think that's basically at the
01:13:09
rest of them. I'll post the links in the show
01:13:12
notes, if anybody wants to kind of go through these themselves,
01:13:16
and again, there were a thousand kolbus, 1000 were signed into
01:13:21
law 997. Go through them all, God bless,
01:13:26
if you can, these are just sort of the highlights tree loss that
01:13:33
you actually liked. Whether we talked about them or
01:13:36
not, did California pass any laws that you agree with toll
01:13:40
exemptions for some veterans? I saw this one, this one look
01:13:42
good. If you're a disabled veteran,
01:13:47
Pearl Harbor, Survivor prisoner of war or to Veterans who
01:13:51
receive distinction such as the Purple Heart Congressional Medal
01:13:53
of Honor. If you get plates that show,
01:13:57
you're a veteran, you won't have to pay tolls on any roads or
01:14:01
highways. A veteran or all the things you
01:14:05
just listed in addition, it only applies that are issued to those
01:14:11
things. Those disabled veteran, Pearl
01:14:13
Harbor. So, not all veterans.
01:14:16
But I mean, it should be all veterans, but it's a nice little
01:14:19
gesture. So I don't know.
01:14:22
I, I'm not a fan of passing more laws, just for the sake of,
01:14:27
passing the laws. So, It's tough for me to say I
01:14:33
like this new law. Don't think stuck out to me is
01:14:38
like, I'm glad this law is going out.
01:14:42
There was a law about criminal records before in.
01:14:47
This is also getting sort of like legally wonky.
01:14:50
It used to be when you want to an expungement.
01:14:53
You could only get an expungement of your record if
01:14:56
you were on probation and you completed your probation.
01:14:59
But if you were sentenced to prison State Prison, you could
01:15:02
knock it in expungement. I do like that, they've expanded
01:15:06
that so people can get a second chance if they have, like, they
01:15:09
have to go to state prison for something.
01:15:11
They've done their time completed their sentence moving
01:15:15
on with their lives and never want to do anything again, they
01:15:18
can get the expungement. I know some people will probably
01:15:20
think, you know, you're getting letting people off and all that
01:15:23
stuff and I do and if you served your time, A crime.
01:15:28
So that if you committed that you can't see it.
01:15:30
You're you're not allowed to right, right?
01:15:33
Yeah. It's it's a lot to do with like,
01:15:35
sexual crimes, right by usually, like whenever you've been
01:15:41
convicted of that, there's no chance of you ever really
01:15:44
getting any sort of Second Chance, serious or violent
01:15:48
crimes as well. But, you know, something that
01:15:53
sentence you to State Prison. And you can get expunged.
01:15:57
So if you've done your, I guess if you served your debt to
01:16:00
society, you can get expunged to move on with your life.
01:16:06
So I like that, that was pretty good.
01:16:08
Are there any laws that you like out of all of these laws is
01:16:11
that, the pink tax? You're happy.
01:16:12
The pink text do anything for me.
01:16:18
And like I said, free market does away the free market so
01:16:21
that annoyed me because there should be people should be
01:16:25
allowed to compete businesses along.
01:16:28
We didn't discuss that really annoys me is the DNA for rape
01:16:32
kits that can, they cannot be used to power and other crimes,
01:16:37
that frustrated, me, because we should definitely have a
01:16:40
database of rapists DNA. To help solve other crimes but
01:16:46
that are now exempt. I guess that it's if you know,
01:16:50
basically any DNA from a rape kit, can only be used for that
01:16:55
crime, not against other. Like they can, I guess say, oh
01:17:01
it's a match for this. Yeah.
01:17:05
Yeah, that's an odd one. You know, there's some things
01:17:08
that they pass your like the legislature in the couch it in
01:17:13
like, Social justice and all that.
01:17:17
But in reality the way it looks the most average Californians
01:17:21
and people, is it just seems like you're trying to help
01:17:24
criminals more get off and not like, we should be cracking down
01:17:30
like crime is a number one, is one of the top issues and
01:17:32
California along with homelessness near making it
01:17:35
easier. So, that's what never understand
01:17:39
either though, is that we're so, like, worried about abortions,
01:17:42
for women, who were raped, but we are not worried about the
01:17:45
rain, Pist. It's like no this woman
01:17:47
shouldn't have to go through this pregnancy, but that man
01:17:49
should be free. Let's be soft on crime for the
01:17:53
rapist. Let's not use his DNA to see if
01:17:55
he also raped other women, but you know, let's put him in jail
01:18:00
for a night. Also wasn't a cannot be used to
01:18:03
convict a criminal, our rap song lyrics.
01:18:09
Yeah. That was, that was a big thing,
01:18:10
I think, who was it? Who was one of the one famous,
01:18:13
like, La rapper was involved with that.
01:18:16
So like, even if your rap lyrics Say, Like I want to kill this
01:18:20
person like they can't use it in court that was I guess a big
01:18:26
issue. Oh, the bill knows
01:18:28
decriminalizing artistic expression, aims to restrict the
01:18:30
use of rap lyrics as evidenced by prosecutors and criminal
01:18:33
cases. the law would require judges to press prosecutors in
01:18:37
the purpose behind including lyrics as evidence and intergate
01:18:40
whether doing so injects racial bias into the proceedings, Yeah,
01:18:49
so I don't know. I guess you didn't like the fur
01:18:54
ban. Are you a big fur fan?
01:18:58
Okay. It's not that it's all the way
01:19:00
to and actually start. I was like, it's Taxidermy
01:19:02
illegal now. Like I was like, literally like
01:19:04
trying to and like whatever. I just close my town, it doesn't
01:19:07
apply to products or those used for religious or dropping
01:19:10
purposes and Enix lose the sale of leather dog and cat fur.
01:19:17
That sounds good. Why wouldn't I want to wear dog
01:19:19
or cat fur? But I can, I can keep my cat.
01:19:22
I have a nice cat fur coat. What are you talking about?
01:19:25
I have no fur coats. Cowhides, dear sheep and goat
01:19:29
skin and anything preserved. Through taxidermy?
01:19:34
So okay. Okay I was I was surprised that
01:19:38
California I just thought fur had fallen out of Vogue so much
01:19:42
because of the social pressure campaign that I just figured it
01:19:46
was already banned across the country but now it's the first
01:19:51
state to ban the sale and manufacture of new for a
01:19:53
product. So go California.
01:19:56
I would that was a big. That was something that I'm sure
01:20:00
everyone was really worried about was the scourge of Our
01:20:04
products in California. Hey, all the celebrities sorry.
01:20:09
Let's go see all the celebrities that are getting those posed
01:20:11
naked for PETA. It was important to them.
01:20:14
They stripped down for Animals. I'm sure that's a all.
01:20:18
They did it for ya. For altruistic reasons.
01:20:24
That's why I'm sure they all got naked.
01:20:28
All right, so with that, like I said, I'm going to put the links
01:20:33
in the show notes. It's if you want to go look at
01:20:35
them some more, there's a lot. So like I said, we're not, we
01:20:39
weren't going to be able to get through a lot of them.
01:20:42
We got through, probably about, I would say less than 1% of them
01:20:47
tonight. I think we got through the big
01:20:50
highlights. We I think we got through the
01:20:51
big ones and it was we've been talking for an hour and a half.
01:20:56
Yeah. So I'm sure we'll see.
01:20:59
Another glut of Twelve hundred bills coming down the pike this
01:21:04
month and next month as you follow those as well.
01:21:10
Yeah they started yesterday session.
01:21:11
So I'm watching want to see only one day comes in California
01:21:16
where we don't need to feel the need to pass 1200 laws, every
01:21:20
single year, just for the sake of passing laws.
01:21:24
Hopefully maybe someday we'll get there but I just don't
01:21:28
understand why legislators this. Why I think state legislators
01:21:32
need to be part-time jobs because there's no reason to
01:21:35
have 1200 bills and 1000 new laws every single year passed in
01:21:41
California. Just gets to a point where
01:21:43
you're like, what do you legislating on obviously, fur
01:21:47
bands and pink tax and bicyclists in lanes and stuff
01:21:52
like that. That's what you end up legislate
01:21:54
on. So, any final thoughts Camille
01:21:56
before we sign off for the night.
01:21:59
No, I think we talked long enough.
01:22:02
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