On this episode we are joined again by Johnathan Zachreson to discuss a legislative roundup now that the legislative session in California is over. Also we discuss the breaking story that the California Teachers Association was caught doing "opposition research" on parents who pushed back on school lockdown policies.
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Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the California
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underground. We have back here again, tonight
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as part of our third legislative Roundup, and this is why it's
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important to continually do these legislative roundups
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because bills, get introduced bills dying committee, a lot of
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stuff happens. Wean the time you hear about the
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news breaking on, Fox news, or oan or Newsmax, or whatever,
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saying california-style crazy, they're doing this bill and then
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by the time, it gets all the way to September.
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Many of these bills actually just died out.
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They don't have the votes. So Jonathan is back with us
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again. He's been our legislative
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Roundup guy. It's also involved with reopen
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schools, reopened California schools, right?
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Is that the full name? We're going we're going to talk
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about another breaking story this week.
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Very interesting what the California Teachers Association
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was doing. Oppo research on people who are
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trying to reopen schools AKA they were looking into what
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parents were. So we got a lot to talk about
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tonight. And as always, My trusty co-host
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Cynthia with me, as well, and in the background is the other
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co-host winning. So if you hear any barking or
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snoring or stuff like that, that's her, but Jonathan.
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Welcome back. How are you doing tonight?
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Good, thank you for having me. So it's busy, busy time of year.
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Well, we have, you know, what 60 days now we have an election.
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So, you know, I'm running for office for school board and a
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lot of people in my area, at least anything across the state
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that are Amped up about the school board races.
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So just working with those folks is keeping us busy.
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Awesome. And Cynthia, how are you doing
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doing great site for this podcast?
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Glad to have Jonathan back. Very excited to see his
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candidacy for School Board Race. I agree with him 100%.
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I think it's the year of the parents and see your families.
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Take back, the education system. Awesome.
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So I guess we'll start off with the legislative Roundup.
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Where there any general thoughts?
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Let's just start there. Let's The bird's eye view of
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General thoughts going into this legislative session where we
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kind of ended up from the first time.
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We did a legislative round up to now, because I remember the
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first time we talked, we kind of talked about this, we really
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focused in on like the vaccine groups and like that group of
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bills that That vaccine working group was really pushing any
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general thoughts. So far on what kind of transpire
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at this legislative session. Yeah, so the vaccine as you
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mentioned, a lot of the bill we talked about last time on the
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vaccine work group, we're high high focus, just because they're
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pretty outrageous. The good news is many of those
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bills die. By the time we got to the end of
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session, there's a few that kind of that went through.
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And in that process may be hot water down a little bit.
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And the vaccine work group bills were dubbed.
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I think the biggest losers by some of the politicos here in
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Sacramento when Get these different packages just with how
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about that did. So it took a lot of work though.
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Amongst what you know a lot of people fighting these bills.
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It's really frustrating. We're spending so much time
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fighting these bills that we don't even have an opportunity
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sometimes to fight for bills. That would help make a
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difference in town, just because things are pretty outrageous
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here. But that's the nature of how
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what, what you know where we are being in California, and that I
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would say that's kind of my summary.
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So one of the most popular I would say is like SB 866 was
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probably the most controversial and that died or I shouldn't say
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died, Senator wiener or favorite.
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One of our favorite Senators pulled that bill at the last
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minute because I don't think he had the votes.
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He was seeing pictures him running around the assembly.
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Trying to get as many votes as possible.
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And support in the end, he didn't have enough support for
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it so he ended up pulling it. Yes.
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Be 866 was of the ones that were Meaning by the time we got to
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the the end of the session was the most controversial left in
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that I would say it's being as 871 that one died.
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Pretty early didn't even it was clear it wasn't getting any
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support multiple legislators came out against 871 early and
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so there's a statement. I want to say very early on that
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one time. Yeah, it's 66 with through
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committee on both Chambers, it passed the Senate so it was
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supposed to go to the floor of the assembly.
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Why? And we didn't think you had the
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votes of I was hearing, it didn't have the votes.
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They amended it to say, well, firstly, 866 was a bill that
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would have allowed teens originally as young as 12 to get
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any vaccine without parental consent, and it was touted that
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the covid-19 we write, which isn't even as an authorized yet
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submergence you use authorization would be allowed
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but I think there's some gray area there but that's how it was
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tattered and at the time, right? Is the way that the code vaccine
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is being administered. It wasn't like a lot of other
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vaccines where you might get them at your pediatricians
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office where your Consulting with your pediatrician.
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I mean, they're going to schools and Clinics and, and nursing
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students spreading nursing students are able to do this.
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And what we hear stories about kids, who maybe have certain
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exemptions already, because of their health conditions, being
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offered bribes at school of pizza and being told forged
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parents signatures. So there's a very, you know,
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there's a lot of nervousness around that just, and also just
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did. General parental rights issues.
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Okay, we're going to be going down this route.
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Like, what other things are we going to say, hey not only, are
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we going to give 12 year olds, the ability to make
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consequential medical decisions. But we're also in a situation
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where because it's medical, we have to keep it from will keep
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the it's kept from the parents. And so, there's a lot of
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concerns about parental rights and even though he amended it
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and got it to move to age 15 and up, it still didn't have the
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votes in the assembly and ever came up for for vote and Died.
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Weiner was blaming, you know, Maga Republicans and
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anti-vaxxers and called out some harassments harassment.
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That was done to his office, which I do not agree with.
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I don't believe you should be, you know, being threatened
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physical violence or the stuff, but he should be threatened to
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be kicked out of office. I don't think that will happen
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with him, and where he's at, unfortunately.
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But yeah, so that's, but really, it was just the parents up in
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arms and all different groups fighting there really wasn't.
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A special interest, funniness it was just, I would say the most
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Grassroots, all these different nonprofits that really didn't
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have the funding that were fighting this and they
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prevailed. And then what was SB?
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871. That was the SBA to another one
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was the one that would require a covid vaccine in order to go to
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school. That one died to that.
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One diver Leon. Yeah, I'm clearly didn't have
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the votes. Yeah.
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So how many of the vaccine I'm looking at this article right
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now? Would you say the the vaccine
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group was successful this session or not as successful as
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their Ambitions set out to be not as successful, like you like
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is there word of the biggest losers?
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This letter says session. Because so many of the bills
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didn't make it and of the ones that did make it, there were the
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least controversial. Once or they're temporary, you
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know. So, you know, example, I think
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1479, that's the Cova testing bill that would require schools
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have a covid testing plan in place but it's not, it doesn't.
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It was watered down to the to extend that doesn't requires
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testing as much is very clear that it doesn't require testing,
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unless cdph were to come in and say that you have to test but
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they're not going to. Because the budget, one of the
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kids agencies is that there's a budget for it.
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The Federal funds run out. The state budget is limited in
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this budget cycle and now has an end date of three years.
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So it doesn't go on indefinitely and really, it's just a little
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bit of an administrative annoyance, you know, to have
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this testing plan, which will probably be something similar to
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what it is now. Which is, we have free engine
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tests for people who have symptoms and they want to take
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one. I mean, that's probably the
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extent of what it's going to be. So it's going to be a reminder,
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for the next three years. But not anything.
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As worrisome as we thought it might have been going in.
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So that was probably the next one that's kind of controversial
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at went through. There's a few other ones I think
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that we are on our agenda to talk about, you know, once that
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relate to privacy, you know, making it easier for schools to
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go in and without even your consent or medical providers to
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go in and put your child's information into a an online
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database and you're automatically opted into it.
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You can't you have to go with the process and opt-out there's
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is that even after you opt out is your information really
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removed from that system. So huge privacy concerns there
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for your kids, in their medical history.
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But yeah, so there's but by and large.
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They are the beliefs controversial ones made it in
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the most controversial ones that we're hearing about didn't make
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it. And that kind of stuff, you
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talked about where California gets a lot of bad press for it
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and think. And luckily we did get bad press
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for. I think that did help in
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defeating these bills. It's always interesting to see
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how these bills get introduced by well, Senators.
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I mean pan is termed out. So he was sort of.
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I feel like the sacrificial lamb on this to just kind of put his
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name on everything and author. Everything and figure.
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I'm just going out with a bang anyway.
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Also, he's got other Ambitions, but you have a lot of these
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Senators, like, Senator pan Center, weiner, who pushed these
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radical pills, and they sound really bad in the press and
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people see Oh, my gosh. California is trying to pass
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this bill and then you're almost pleasantly surprised when it
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comes up to the end of the legislative session and then
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they don't have the vote and you go, huh?
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Maybe sanity did Prevail on some of these, maybe it was politics,
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maybe some people were gain and you know, rightfully so.
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SP H 6X, I have if I had a nickel for every time a parent
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sent me something about SB 866, I could buy myself a nice
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in-and-out burger but that's not that.
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There's a lot of people who are really concerned with bills like
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that and I think there was a lot of outside pressure and maybe
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moderate Democrats, kind of I said it's not really worth it
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for me. I'm just going to stay away from
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these bills like that. Do you think we always think of
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like the Democrats is one voting Bloc, but you get to really see
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that, then it's not that way. There are different sections and
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moderate Democrats, correct. Yes, and different interest
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groups, right? That push it from what I hear.
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I don't think pan is like, and the assembly side and I think a
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lot of people were frustrated that he was pushing these
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controversial bills through. And forcing some of these
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legislators have to make the public decisions.
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In some cases where they're running for other office,
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whether it's supervisor or whether it's, you know, maybe
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maybe their continued have to run for assembly and it just
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wasn't popular. And, and can tell you these
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offices of these legislators, they were blowing up over some
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of these bills and and they're probably like same pan.
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What do you have to do this? Right, our tire office is
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swamped with these calls because of your bills, right?
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They don't call us. Over anything else.
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They call us over your bills and I don't think they liked them
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very much for that. So to that end, and to the
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credit of everyone calling in, I think they did take those
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moderate positions and kind of break with something more
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radical bills that we saw coming from pan.
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We had Pho couple of Representatives even go out
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publicly on Twitter, there's a little bit of a spat between
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O'Donnell and Weiner. Even added after weiner said,
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put out a statement. They says, we almost had Lots to
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been basically said we almost had the votes.
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Oh Donald re-quote tweeted him and said believe me it wasn't
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even even close. Wow yeah so that was quite
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entertaining to see Yeah, so a b 2098, that was another
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controversial bill, that's headed to newsom's desk, isn't
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it? That's the one regarding doctors
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and the medical board. And if there, Not I don't know.
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The way they say it is if they're not the the actual term
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is if they don't speak on what the scientific consensus is,
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they could be brought up against the boards and may lose their
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license. Yeah, that one was very
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interesting to and a lot of that was pretty controversial as
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well, although it's relating to just Doctors Medical licenses.
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So if a doctor tells our patient, hey, I see that your
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7-channel mail. You know, I don't recommend
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getting the second dose of the covid vaccine for example, or
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they say something usual cloth masks are not effective.
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If you want them to be effective, you have to wear a
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fitted end 95. Mask.
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And, you know, because you have facial hairs, you know, it's not
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going to work. So you got to shave your face
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shape, right? That may not, that goes against,
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you know, the quote standard of care and the general consensus,
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which is coming from government-run, and oftentimes
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partisans running these State Health departments that you can
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then be disciplined by the medical board up to losing your
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license. And and what we've seen is that,
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you know, things that were standard, you know, covid truth.
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It's a year later, we're complete opposite but yet
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someone could have lost been disciplined, lost their license.
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Before that information comes out.
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And you'll have people afraid to speak up at least in California
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to tell their patients that. And so it's very disheartening
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and scary to see that they're going to try to legislate.
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So detailed over those conversations prior to some of
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the Amendments it was it wasn't necessarily as bad or as more
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gray maybe that's why. I wanted to clear it, it
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basically said Gross negligence. So you know, that might be like
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be like telling your patients to go use, get you know, go have
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get some leeches to cure your cope it, right?
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That would be an example of maybe some gross negligence that
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could cause harm, but if you're, you know, generally trying to
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help your patients and you do something maybe that's
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experimental or that's new or that you have a different
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opinion than you might have been okay and spared under the old
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language. Now if it's not the mainstream,
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your Can it? You can be disciplined.
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Well, I was that story of those two doctors here in California,
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who came out, and they got enormous press because they came
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out. So look, we've treated X and I
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forget what it specifically, they said, which drug.
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And I don't want to get in trouble with YouTube for
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whatever drug it was, but let's just say it was one of the drugs
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that they were definitely saying, do not take, it's it's
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not helpful at all and they were saying, no, we're actually
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seeing like a good amount of recovery and even them.
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Speaking out about that, they would have been disciplined.
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They probably would have lost their license.
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By now under a be 2098, I don't know if it's retroactive, maybe
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they go back and say they punish these doctors for speaking out,
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but they had so much press that they were kicked off all social
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media, and they were basically like, shunned from the public
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like because no one wants to talk him out, but that's a
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perfect example of people who doctors who were talking out
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against the narrative, or what the mainstream was, and would be
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prime targets. Agates for losing their license
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or being brought up on. Disciplinary charges in front of
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the Medical Board in California. Yeah, that's right.
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And the way the bill is now is I guess publicly speaking.
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When it have to be a patient of yours but just like they were
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targeted on social media you know that they're going to be
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targeted. So soon as you make a statement
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publicly they're going to go try to see if you said anything to
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your patients at all. And they're still going to
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probably issue a complaint against you.
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And even if you ultimately don't lose your license from something
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like this or even discipline, just going through that process.
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Us is annoying and cumbersome and costly.
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And so, yeah, it does. It is going to stifle free
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speech and and and stifle scientific debate on this issue.
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And just like any issue you, it's important to have healthy
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disagreements, over event, tells koala bears, medicine, Health
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policy science, what have you? We need to have those debates?
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And I think it's also important to like it's science.
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So, when you find out new information, you're supposed to
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change your stance on it. Yeah.
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Right. And not be so ideological about
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it evidence-based. You know, use research talk to
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each other disagree with each other, on this stuff.
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Not censoring cancel. Yeah.
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Like the way to combat these kinds of discussions is with
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free speech and this bill pretty much, which would trifle that It
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would it would cause a chilling effect, definitely.
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Yeah. Be like going back until like
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the Middle Ages and then if a doctor said, you know, I don't
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think we should be bloodletting with leeches and the scientific
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Community said, well that's not the mainstream.
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We love bloodletting with leeches and therefore you're not
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allowed to practice anymore. It sounds ridiculous, but that's
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exactly what it would be. It would be like whatever the
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mainstream is now 10 years. From now, we could look back and
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go man. We really push that like, that's
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insane but So California is looking to do right now.
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Is keep people in line and push the narrative.
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I love that, I love that example.
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Just like smoking women, you know, 70 years ago?
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Yeah, it's like in Forrest Gump. When the doctor rolls in and
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he's got a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.
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And they don't see anything wrong with the fact that a
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doctor smoking in front of you and nobody saw anything wrong
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with smoking any others of the vaccine working.
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Group that you can think of that, either passed or failed
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before we move on to some other some other of these highlighted
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bills and I said, did you have a get a couple on your list that
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you want to talk? I think it was maybe 14 19 and
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and 1797, let me double check here.
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That we may have actually talked about some of those ones.
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I think 1797 is the bill that changes on the Privacy
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standards. Yeah.
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And I think it might have died too.
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I think 1797 went through. But we're pulling up, we're
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finding out. Well, while we're waiting on the
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consensus in a little bit, we are going to talk about this CTA
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spine on parents, if you are listening.
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that so 1797 did pass, but it hasn't been sent to newsom's
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desk yet. So I know that the trying
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there's There's petitions trying to get him to veto that bill.
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Just like there are 2098 1479 trying to get him to veto that
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bill and I think was SB 1479 was at the last one Sofia?
00:20:47
Yeah. Steve.
00:20:52
Swell? I look bad up question.
00:20:56
So I look that up. Jonathan, do you think in
00:20:58
general, because they're speaking of videos for for new
00:21:01
some there was some bills where I guess sanity ones.
00:21:06
Like for example he did beat of that.
00:21:09
Like open drug sight bill and I actually met with James
00:21:13
Gallagher today key just like a policy round table for the lake
00:21:16
and Club, in San Diego. So, I actually asked him that
00:21:19
same question, like, were you surprised by some of these
00:21:22
bills? Houston vetoed or what are your
00:21:24
thoughts on that? You know, as we know just by
00:21:28
tunisians claims he plans on running for president.
00:21:30
So I think you know, I'm not too surprised because imagine him
00:21:35
signing that delaughter letting it become into law.
00:21:37
You could imagine the campaign commercials right now.
00:21:41
I would imagine, 2098 is a B-29 to a similar, maybe not as
00:21:46
controversial in that regard, but you know that it's going to
00:21:49
be used against him in the commercial of you.
00:21:52
Runs for president. So especially if there is a
00:21:54
doctor that is disciplined for some of the stuff that, you
00:21:58
know, up until the 2024 lectures.
00:22:00
So I'm hopeful on 2098, I'm not optimistic, you know, not overly
00:22:04
optimistic, but I think there's a decent chance he could on that
00:22:08
one 1479. I think he's going to sign that
00:22:11
one or just let it go into law. No, it's not as bad anymore and
00:22:16
and I don't and he has a little bit more control over the policy
00:22:19
on that one because he's not going to let.
00:22:20
Cdph mandate testing at. So then we won't have to be
00:22:24
dealing with that. But yeah, I think you know 2098,
00:22:27
I think for 1797 he's going to probably let that pass.
00:22:31
I don't think he's going to be to that one.
00:22:34
There's just nothing. I've said, this yesterday was
00:22:39
the Silver Lining to Gavin? Newsom running is that.
00:22:43
Yeah, he might actually moderate a lot of his positions.
00:22:47
Yeah, coming up then for the next two or six years is he's
00:22:51
going to veto a law. Lot of bills that are very
00:22:54
crazy. So he's going to make an enemy
00:22:55
out of Scott wiener because got weiners going to be very upset
00:22:59
with a lot of the radical bills. He tries to get past and keep
00:23:01
getting vetoed by Newsom, but I think that's one of the Silver.
00:23:05
Linings, I know it's politics but hey, I'll take it.
00:23:08
I'll take a moderate Newsome who's not trying to push every
00:23:11
single radical agenda through. Well, I guess I guess lesson for
00:23:15
us is, you know, we should always have a California
00:23:17
governor running for president every time.
00:23:21
And we should be hoping that whoever get it'll be like.
00:23:24
Well, I hope they want to run for president because if they do
00:23:29
sooner or later they're going to moderate their positions they're
00:23:31
not going to be crazy. Yes.
00:23:33
Exactly. Because the people in Iowa don't
00:23:36
want to hear crazy stuff and they don't want open truck, you
00:23:38
sites and all that stuff. So definitely not going to work
00:23:42
out. Did you find that bill Cynthia
00:23:45
or do you want me to hop on one of mine that I You can hop on
00:23:49
one of yours. Well, I brought this up with the
00:23:52
last one because it was gutted and amended at the last minute
00:23:55
after the Bruin decision. And we were kind of waiting up
00:23:58
until the last minute to hear. And I was checking my Twitter
00:24:02
until the end of the session and SB 918 is dead or the session
00:24:08
which was effectively. So if I can try and parse out
00:24:13
what happened here, the Supreme Court ruled on Bruin and Bruin
00:24:18
basically said you don't need good cause for carrying
00:24:21
concealed anymore, the current law as written requires that.
00:24:26
If you're going to get a carrying concealed in
00:24:28
California, you need to pass a test that requires good cause.
00:24:32
So currently the law on the books which could create a whole
00:24:37
Fiasco with a lot of issues is unconstitutional as written.
00:24:43
So therefore it's almost it's void because it's
00:24:45
unconstitutional. So they had to Write a new bill,
00:24:49
that would replace this law and be in line with growing.
00:24:55
So it was in line with Bruin, but they added about 100 places
00:24:59
that you could not carry and conceal in the state of
00:25:01
California. And they included, obviously,
00:25:04
couldn't go in churches, you couldn't go schools were already
00:25:07
part of it, but the big thing was Private businesses.
00:25:12
Couldn't go into any more private businesses, unless they
00:25:14
put a sign on the door that said Guns and Carrie are welcome,
00:25:20
which good luck in California for anybody who wants to put
00:25:22
that on their front door. And the worst part is, you can't
00:25:26
be on the sidewalks or the parking lots adjacent to any of
00:25:29
these sensitive places, meaning that you could basically carry
00:25:34
your gun in your driveway, to your car, and then leave it in
00:25:37
your car. Wherever you go, you wouldn't be
00:25:39
able to carry it anywhere. Thankfully, it died.
00:25:43
I don't know if they're gonna try again.
00:25:45
I feel like a lot of times. These bills get a lot of
00:25:49
political momentum because of what's going on because the
00:25:53
Brewing decision. But they're going to have to one
00:25:56
way or another they're going to have to fix the law as it is.
00:25:59
So they'll probably be another shot at it.
00:26:02
I don't know if it'll be as radical will say but until then
00:26:06
for all those carrying concealed holders out there like myself we
00:26:11
get to enjoy More places to carry and conceal.
00:26:15
We don't have to worry about that for several more months
00:26:17
until they introduce more things.
00:26:19
So I'm happy SP 918 is dead. Yeah, no.
00:26:24
It was quite surprising and I don't know all the politics
00:26:27
behind that one. I do know.
00:26:29
There was concern over that. It would be challenged
00:26:31
immediately and they would lose immediately and then maybe
00:26:35
that's part of it right. It would just look bad.
00:26:37
That thing. Look, great.
00:26:38
This law. That would immediately be
00:26:40
overturned by a judge because it was just so it's some ways.
00:26:45
It was almost worse than the existing law that was on their
00:26:48
books. You know, I would, you know, the
00:26:50
part. I think it says it shall there's
00:26:52
a shallow in there. So in some counties Where I'm at
00:26:54
in Placer County, it's much easier to get a concealed carry
00:26:58
permit but you know in San Francisco.
00:27:00
What there's like a dozen of Pete.
00:27:02
Dozen permits issued. That's all they have.
00:27:04
It's not that night. Yeah, it's ridiculous number.
00:27:08
And so now they have to I'm Vonda even put out a statement
00:27:11
that says you have to, basically let people get concealed carry
00:27:15
in these counties, and I think a 19-8 was trying to fix that
00:27:19
before, and I think they even had an urgency Clause that's
00:27:22
part of the problem. That's what I heard that it had
00:27:25
an urgency Clause to get it to go into effect immediately to
00:27:28
stop. I think maybe somebody's
00:27:31
Concealed Carry Permits from happening and because they have
00:27:34
that urgency Clause they needed to get, it was a 2/3, right?
00:27:38
Of the vote that caused a whole build a fail, the easily had
00:27:42
enough votes to overturn just to make it going effect, January
00:27:47
first. So if they would have not been
00:27:49
greedy and not putting the urgency Clause, they could have
00:27:51
easily passed this thing and it would have been the law.
00:27:53
Jen. Very first now between now and
00:27:55
January 1st, there have been a lot of people trying to get
00:27:57
their Concealed Carry Permits but up until that and they
00:28:01
probably need some sort of delay to have that happen.
00:28:04
Now, they have to wait till next legislative session.
00:28:06
It probably could pass but it's going to be January 1st of 2024
00:28:12
before. That would take effect Yeah.
00:28:15
So for and as I tell everybody go out and get him because you
00:28:20
have this law on the books, that is technically unconstitutional.
00:28:24
And there shall issue. So go out and get those ecw's
00:28:28
and I agree. I think the law even if it
00:28:31
passed as is if they just hit copy and just submitted the same
00:28:35
exact bill, I think it would ultimately get overturned in
00:28:39
court. It would get slapped down pretty
00:28:40
quickly. I would venture to say even in
00:28:42
the ninth circuit, it might actually get Lockdown because
00:28:45
it's so in direct conflict with the Supreme Court decision which
00:28:49
actually on a separate note they did a three panel judge or three
00:28:53
panel three-panel judge. Why does that sound weird a
00:28:57
panel of three judges on the ninth circuit did just overturn
00:29:02
the 21 and under rifle ban here in California.
00:29:08
So you're going to start seeing a lot of these Second Amendment
00:29:12
cases and second amendment issues in California.
00:29:14
I think start to fall under the Bruin decision but that's a
00:29:17
whole different, so different episode, but SP 918.
00:29:22
It's dead for the session. Enjoy it.
00:29:25
Go out and get those ecw's Cynthia.
00:29:29
Yeah so I think so I did just kind of like a quick search on
00:29:33
all the other ones that because what I did was I looked at her
00:29:36
last legislative Roundup but yeah, I think maybe 20 idea That
00:29:42
probably will get signed into law by new some EB 1797.
00:29:47
They'll probably get signs. SB 866.
00:29:51
That was a win for parents and then.
00:29:52
Yeah, I think the other ones like they either didn't have the
00:29:55
votes in committees or at the end the session when they're
00:29:59
trying to rush those bills. They didn't really make it to
00:30:02
the floor in the ends. So I thought we could transition
00:30:05
to the to that Jonathan's specifically wanted to go over.
00:30:10
One of them was be 913 and that had something to do with Los
00:30:16
Angeles Unified School District. John if you wanted to talk with
00:30:23
that, this one so California, Ed code spells out how much school
00:30:29
board members can get paid a month.
00:30:32
And if you're really small District, I want to say, I don't
00:30:35
know exactly what this is amount, but it's not very much
00:30:38
like $40 a mothers. And the maximum that you can get
00:30:42
paid is two thousand dollars a month and the way that they
00:30:45
determine this, it's a schedule based off enrollment, so if you
00:30:49
have more than it originally, was more than 400 students
00:30:53
in your in your District, then you can have.
00:30:56
You can get paid $2000 a month, right?
00:31:00
It's not, that's that's what San Diego unified gets paid.
00:31:03
Their that's what I think that about 18 a year or maybe she
00:31:07
thought. Yeah, or 24 is what it
00:31:10
would. The next level is San Diego
00:31:12
unified and they get 18. So 1500 a month where I'm at.
00:31:16
You know, the school district has a little over 10, so
00:31:18
they can get paid. $400 a month. There were some Clauses and that
00:31:22
allows you to raise it, five percent every year.
00:31:24
But the board have to, you know, make that decision.
00:31:29
Now this was on the books since 1979, at least, it may have been
00:31:33
there prior so those dollars today are worth, you know those
00:31:37
amounts. You know, if they were being
00:31:39
adjusted for inflation. I would be over four times the
00:31:41
amount that they are, so that's still be quite a bit, right?
00:31:46
But a lot of school boards don't want to do that and they try to
00:31:49
look at it as a volunteer completely voluntary position
00:31:51
and almost like you're lucky if you get anything but in LAUSD
00:31:56
said they were getting paid. I want to say like forty
00:31:58
thousand dollars up until 2017 and then they put this
00:32:02
compensation committee through the city.
00:32:05
And they said, you know what, actually, we think this board
00:32:08
member should get paid Five thousand dollars a year.
00:32:12
On top of that, they might be. They have their own staff,
00:32:14
right? I mean, the budget is huge for
00:32:16
board and so, they've been getting paid 125 thousand a
00:32:19
year. If they don't have any other
00:32:20
jobs, which is a complete violation of Ed code and they've
00:32:25
been doing that for years and I've been kind of hammering this
00:32:28
as I kind of identify this because I think I think some of
00:32:30
these other board positions in smaller or medium-sized
00:32:33
districts are too small. You're not getting enough Canon.
00:32:36
Some parents want to see you know I'll do this.
00:32:38
I'll go through the trouble. To sacrifice, you know, 10 hours
00:32:42
a week or 15 hours a week to do this because, you know, you
00:32:48
might get in some case, you make you pay $40 a month for
00:32:51
something like that and and, you know, parents are busy.
00:32:55
We have you, no obligations of her own.
00:32:56
And so I think you need a fairly compensate to have qualified
00:32:59
individuals run for Sunday's offices.
00:33:01
But anyway, I have been hammering, this, but LAUSD was
00:33:04
seeing a problem one is, I think they potentially could be sued
00:33:08
and then to their enrollment was declining. 400 they think by
00:33:12
next year, they'll be under 400 students.
00:33:15
So they get hertzberg to write a bill.
00:33:19
Well then I guess LAUSD wrote the Bill, they sponsored it and
00:33:21
hertzberg introduced it. That does a couple of things.
00:33:24
If it keeps a bunch of other exemptions the LAUSD had but it
00:33:27
lowers that 400 threshold down to 250 for a lot of these
00:33:33
exemptions and it writes a brand new exemption.
00:33:37
So instead of that schedule, that I just talked about of how
00:33:40
School board members, get paid if a school board has more than
00:33:44
250 students. Then they can get paid be an
00:33:49
alternative method if it's done through some sort of, like, if
00:33:53
it's recommended through the city or county, which is what La
00:33:56
did. So, basically LAUSD wrote this
00:33:58
bill to say, what we did is now going to be legal going forward,
00:34:02
even though they violated the law for the last 56 years, it's
00:34:06
going to be legal going forward and a picked a number 250.
00:34:11
That only applies to them in applies, to them for quite some
00:34:13
time where San Diego unified. I want to say is 80
00:34:17
students. So this bill was specifically
00:34:19
targeted towards LAUSD written by LASD giving them exemptions
00:34:23
and allowing them to get paid 125 thousand dollars a year.
00:34:27
When the next closest pay schedule for school.
00:34:29
Board member is eighteen thousand dollars a year.
00:34:35
So it's it's something I think is kind of crazy.
00:34:38
It wouldn't have much opposition.
00:34:39
It kind of passed all the way through all these committees.
00:34:43
It was just seemed as like a fixing bill, that was needed
00:34:46
because lausd's enrollment was declining.
00:34:48
That's how kind of how it was sold.
00:34:50
So just Pat easily passed. It was until I was researching.
00:34:53
Other bills, that came up and like, whoa, all this thing I've
00:34:55
been harping about now is going to change Ed code, but it just
00:34:58
shows you just, you know, corruption to just
00:35:01
Ridiculousness of these bills in California and how they're
00:35:04
targeted towards Bunch of scripts.
00:35:08
Well, special interest groups have a lot to say with a lot of
00:35:10
these bills. So that's not especially when it
00:35:12
comes to education you know that firsthand.
00:35:15
Yeah. Okay.
00:35:18
What's what's next on? The list we got?
00:35:21
Yeah, just real quick 80/20. It was a 25-54 or anything.
00:35:26
It was just going through all my all our text messages.
00:35:29
It is a B25. 84-84. Yes.
00:35:33
Okay, yes. So that one was a bill that was
00:35:36
introduced by the California School Board Association because
00:35:40
they thought it was too easy to recall school board members
00:35:45
Right? So they write this bill that
00:35:48
really effectively does nothing and then they tout it as a win
00:35:53
for protecting school board members from being recalled and
00:35:56
one of the key aspects in this bill was it raised the initial
00:36:01
signatures for the notice of intention.
00:36:04
So if you're trying to recall someone you have to get certain
00:36:07
citizens in the community to sign this as we want to recall
00:36:09
this person because they did these bad things and then they
00:36:12
have to submit it again to post it publicly.
00:36:15
I think in the newspaper for 32 and SB out there for 30 days or
00:36:18
something like that. So it used to be 10 to 20
00:36:21
signatures depending on the size of the jurisdiction with state
00:36:25
law, they got that to be raised, I think to 30 to 50 signatures.
00:36:30
I may be off on some of those numbers but 50 was the max,
00:36:33
right. I don't think it's still at hard
00:36:34
to get 50 signatures of a notice of intention, but that's what
00:36:38
they were saying. This is going to make it more
00:36:39
difficult for school board members to get recalled which Is
00:36:45
absurd because the limits of getting someone recalled or
00:36:48
still in place. So, you guys still have to have
00:36:50
anywhere I think from 30 to 15 percent of people registered
00:36:56
voters in your District to recall someone.
00:36:59
So, you know, if you're in a small District, I think it's
00:37:01
30%, and if you're in a larger District, it's 15%.
00:37:04
So still going to take, you know, in many cases, thousands
00:37:08
if not tens of thousands of Voters to sign these petitions
00:37:11
to get these school board members recall.
00:37:14
Maybe in cases like LAUSD, you might even need to have over
00:37:18
100 people sign these recall petitions and so it didn't
00:37:23
really do anything in that regard.
00:37:25
And there's one area they could have fixed which they chose not
00:37:27
to and that is if someone gets a point to say there's a vacancy
00:37:31
on the school board, if somebody gets appointed then the within
00:37:37
30 days. I so you can get just in many
00:37:39
cases, 200 signatures and get that person kicked off and then
00:37:44
Force the school district to have a special election which
00:37:46
could cost them tens of thousands of dollars.
00:37:49
They didn't address that loophole that only applies to
00:37:53
school board. Appointments doesn't apply to
00:37:54
any other point. We can't do that.
00:37:56
If the legislate, you know, the an in kind of appointments that
00:37:58
Newsome does, whether it's a, you know, a senate appointment.
00:38:02
Whether it was any kind of other vacancy that we have, you know,
00:38:06
just requires a small percent, like 2%.
00:38:08
No, only for school board's. Does happen.
00:38:11
Doesn't have a, the council's does happen for a County
00:38:13
Supervisors. Scores.
00:38:15
They decided not to fix that one.
00:38:17
That caused a special election done.
00:38:19
San Diego. Actually, it was a sending you
00:38:22
do. I believe it was Tiny humans was
00:38:24
a spoiled, the room that was appointed and teachers union was
00:38:28
to make me good segue to the next one.
00:38:29
The local teachers union are San dieguito which happens to be the
00:38:33
situation that we're at now, they went around and easily
00:38:37
collected, you know, I think I was like two hundred signatures
00:38:40
from the community and guy and recalled and force them out.
00:38:42
Especially watching costing, the district tens of thousands of
00:38:44
Dollars. Anyways, just it's just kind of
00:38:48
nothing to see us be Aid. Not really understanding or
00:38:51
either misrepresenting what they actually did.
00:38:54
They didn't fix anything and pretending like they did.
00:38:57
This wasn't a sort of, in reaction or response to those
00:39:02
San Francisco school board members being recalled.
00:39:05
Was it? Excuse me there.
00:39:09
Um it kind of was right and that took a lot of effort, you know.
00:39:14
It did get done, it was it was good though.
00:39:16
School board members needed to get recall but it wasn't easy.
00:39:20
And, and so CSV writes this bill and acts like they made it
00:39:23
harder for someone to get recalled and adds us.
00:39:25
Absolutely nothing in that regard for them to get recalls.
00:39:29
Still just as easy. If someone's appointed and it's
00:39:31
just as easy to get or just as hard, I guess to get the number
00:39:35
required signatures for an elected School Board member
00:39:38
Yeah, it was in response to I think not just not just there,
00:39:41
but there's a small District that they were able to recall
00:39:45
some school board members. Because if you do have it, if
00:39:48
someone dumps money from outside in some of the small school
00:39:51
district, you probably could do it because if you only have, you
00:39:53
know, thousand voters there, right?
00:39:55
You might cap. That's only 300 signatures might
00:40:00
be a lot Community, but you know it'd be easy for some Outsider
00:40:03
to write a check to get 300 signatures.
00:40:06
Yeah, absolutely. You mentioned Teachers Union as
00:40:11
a good Segway? Was that a sec way to your next
00:40:14
bill or the next story? Oh, the start of the CTS.
00:40:17
Final parents would be if you want to die.
00:40:20
Yeah, I'm the one, the one bill I want to talk about and going
00:40:25
back to Newsome's push to become more of a moderate.
00:40:29
For the presidential election, though.
00:40:32
He says, he's not going to was at Senate Bill 1338, which was
00:40:37
too. Create his care Court proposal,
00:40:41
which was probably controversial, I would say it
00:40:44
absolutely is controversial to a lot of civil rights.
00:40:46
Advocates was this idea that they are going to bring back?
00:40:52
Forced. Court-ordered, whatever you want
00:40:57
to call it mental treatment for the homeless and the bill is, I
00:41:03
understand it basically gives you a choice, which is you can
00:41:07
be criminally convicted. Or you can go to this mandatory
00:41:12
treatment and that's one of their ways that they want to
00:41:16
help clean up. California, is this care Court?
00:41:19
Michael shellenberger says, it's a knockoff of what he did, but
00:41:24
worse, of course he did. But I think it's interesting
00:41:27
that he is doing something that actually is more stick than
00:41:32
carrot in California. That seems to love more carrot
00:41:37
For Those who commit crimes and those who are getting in
00:41:41
trouble. And for him to kind of, put this
00:41:43
hard line of what you either have to get treatment, or you're
00:41:46
going to go to jail, because you can't can't be out there and
00:41:49
can't be doing all these crazy things.
00:41:52
So I'll be interested to see where this goes.
00:41:54
If it does have an actual effect, I don't think we're
00:41:58
going to be going back to like the little white Vans in the
00:42:00
guys in the straitjackets kind of rounding people up.
00:42:03
But it's People are going to fight this and people are not
00:42:07
going to be happy about it and we'll see where it goes and see
00:42:10
if it's a success or if it's just pandering for the election
00:42:14
to try and clean up the state. Yeah, I don't know too much
00:42:19
about the details of the bill. My understanding is it passed
00:42:22
unanimously did not in the legislature.
00:42:28
Let's say that the it doesn't say what it, what the vote total
00:42:33
was, but yeah, it's on his way to the debt his desk.
00:42:37
So yeah, I don't know the details, but I heard his maybe
00:42:44
some people who didn't go far enough, all right, California's
00:42:47
been moving this direction of, removing those sticks, right?
00:42:50
I've been able to help people that need help, right?
00:42:54
That tickle, to give them that help before some get the help.
00:42:57
Because they're just there's big removing, you know, you can't,
00:43:01
you can't, they could be camping out and doing drugs in front of
00:43:04
a school almost and you're a law enforcement restricted from
00:43:08
doing anything about it, because the way the law is written.
00:43:11
So hopefully this brings us back in the right direction in that
00:43:15
regard. So we can have people get that
00:43:17
help that they need and, and really provide that stick to in
00:43:21
order to make sure that they will decide to do that and get
00:43:24
them on the right track. But, but yes, it will be yet to
00:43:28
be seen how effective it will be.
00:43:29
And if we need to go even more in that direction, if more
00:43:33
details need to come out from it, but it's definitely an issue
00:43:37
that that he needs to address because it's just an incredibly
00:43:40
bad in California and the policies before were.
00:43:43
Let's not do anything to actually help homeless, but will
00:43:46
continue to give money to this homeless industrial complex of
00:43:50
these peoples making money off of the issue as opposed to
00:43:53
fixing issues. I mean I would just like to not
00:43:58
have to go take my dog for her morning walk and see a homeless
00:44:03
person dropped trou in a public park and take a dump but You
00:44:07
know, that may be asking too much in California, so we'll see
00:44:10
what happens. Well, the story of the meth
00:44:12
poop. I saw going around social media.
00:44:15
Oh my God, the dogs were getting sick because they were eating
00:44:19
the poop of homeless people. And it had meth roommate, like
00:44:23
meth residue in it. I think, I think weiner even
00:44:26
tweeted about that being said, like, stop it.
00:44:29
You know, that's, you know, stop spreading false news or
00:44:32
something. Yeah, he's always is always fast
00:44:35
if there's bad news about San, He's like, stop spreading it.
00:44:38
It's bad. It's fake news.
00:44:40
It's just all you like, right-wingers.
00:44:42
He always blames. Like, right Wingers and it's
00:44:44
like, how many right-wingers do you think are in California?
00:44:47
That are actually doing this? They make it sound like they're
00:44:51
everywhere. But there.
00:44:53
Yeah, they always be always tell that they're the majority,
00:44:56
right? And then when something wrong
00:44:58
bad happens or like oh it's the Republicans it's their fault
00:45:01
even though we're outnumbered I'll know like and if any of the
00:45:04
viewers, how are on technology? You should follow Scott.
00:45:07
Got winner on Tick Tock. It's a pretty phenomenal.
00:45:11
I know I took fell down in today.
00:45:14
Did you send me the video of him doing that?
00:45:16
Walk of yeah like his sassy walk that he was doing or something?
00:45:23
I didn't send that video but I was are actually no, I did the
00:45:27
one that the one where he's walking in high heels Well, was
00:45:32
he in high heels, I just saw him holding glasses and doing like a
00:45:35
sassy walk down some steps. Okay?
00:45:37
Maybe that was in right-wingers are like attacking you and he's
00:45:39
like, oh yeah they're jealous. No, that was a tick.
00:45:42
Tock you posted today or recently, but I know that I was
00:45:46
the one that sent you like the first video.
00:45:48
He posted as so Jonathan. I have a grand Tick-Tock but he
00:45:52
literally, it's a video of him walking on the sidewalk with a
00:45:56
friend with a bike and he's wearing high heels and he's like
00:46:01
Sorry, we're going to go Robin, I'm not on TV and you're
00:46:04
reinforcing good reasons why I'm not a tick that I only know
00:46:11
covid. Changed my mind about Tick-Tock.
00:46:14
All I get are dog videos and cooking videos.
00:46:19
Basically all I get I don't get the the twerking or anything
00:46:22
like that. I don't get any of it, the
00:46:24
dances. Yeah.
00:46:25
Okay the first rubs it m in high heels unless you're 67 and of
00:46:30
walk downhill in. 4-inch heels are not allowed to comment.
00:46:36
It's literally, it's him walking down.
00:46:38
Yeah, it's him walking. I remember, I remember I text
00:46:41
you that and then you like Drop. And then I think he followed it
00:46:44
after that, but it's just. It's too good too good.
00:46:48
It's got Winter Hill, provide, at least how many more years of
00:46:51
entertainment and content. All right, any more bills should
00:46:55
do. We want to hop onto the next
00:46:56
topic? That Jonathan was at the middle
00:46:59
of a big breaking news. This week that I thought was
00:47:02
really fascinating. It sure makinen of let them
00:47:05
breathe actually. Shared it with me.
00:47:07
That was the first I heard of it.
00:47:09
So Jonathan. Do you want to let us know what
00:47:11
happened this week and tell us all about, you know, Spill the
00:47:17
Beans, what happened this week? What's the Scandal?
00:47:21
Oh my gosh. Yeah, so let's let's go back to
00:47:25
April of, you know, spring of 2021 what was happening.
00:47:31
Schools are just beginning to open up and it was because of
00:47:34
the efforts of parents then. In San Diego, there is the north
00:47:39
county there, they sued their school district.
00:47:42
They sued Governor some over the rules, some of the arbitrary
00:47:46
covid-19 because their schools weren't opening and, and they
00:47:50
could have opened full-time. And so part of it was the state,
00:47:54
some of those that are local school district.
00:47:57
Refusing open. And we have a situation here at
00:48:00
San dieguito, which is the same school district.
00:48:02
I mentioned earlier where they recall that school board.
00:48:05
Over just 200 signatures that was appointed.
00:48:09
So that school district they they said they had to see their
00:48:14
school district there and they want and so the CTA, let's take
00:48:21
a step back. Sorry that same Union sued in
00:48:23
December to keep their School, District closed, the school
00:48:25
district because of parents, we're going to open in January
00:48:28
and the school district was like nope.
00:48:30
Nope. Are the the teachers you know?
00:48:31
No no no no we can't do this and they sue CTA, help them they sue
00:48:35
to keep schools closed for another three months.
00:48:39
Then parents sued one, right? They got schools open.
00:48:44
Well there's this weird. It's there is this in the CTA in
00:48:50
particular they believe that all these parents that we're coming
00:48:53
together to fight for the kids to have an in-person education.
00:48:57
It was due to some sort of conspiracy that there's some
00:49:00
right-wing dark money out there coming in and funding these
00:49:04
groups, their dark groups, and they're taking all those losses.
00:49:07
So, the CTA, which we find out through these emails was
00:49:11
researching various parent groups and in He notices an
00:49:14
email for and swimmer, a researcher for CTA sent an
00:49:18
email. She got the information because
00:49:20
of connections that were made through this lawsuit earlier at
00:49:24
San dieguito from the CT, a lawyer.
00:49:26
And he knows that there's these, these other parents that have
00:49:29
dirt on other parents which let me go tangential here.
00:49:33
You know the way that some of these the city operates and some
00:49:36
of these other local unions that are involved with CTA is they
00:49:40
have these front B's parent groups that are aligned with So,
00:49:43
any time that there's an issue that the union wants to push
00:49:47
their seat, he's pushing they'll contact these groups that are,
00:49:49
maybe they're part of PTA, or they're involved with politics
00:49:52
of everything goes on there, and then they have a paid that way,
00:49:57
they have a parent voice that can represent one side of it,
00:50:00
that represents their views, so we see how they operate it large
00:50:04
funds, different networks. And so it's just projection onto
00:50:07
these other parent groups with well, if they were doing this
00:50:09
because we do these things, they must be doing this and they said
00:50:13
This email saying, hey we're researching all these different
00:50:16
parent groups and they mentioned parent Association by name and
00:50:20
they were trying to figure information out about this
00:50:22
grouping. So a couple of changes happen,
00:50:25
they take talk about what they're doing why they're doing
00:50:27
it and then they accidentally someone accidentally CCS the
00:50:32
principal. His name is Adam, one of these
00:50:35
other parents names where was Adam gets mixed up in it and
00:50:39
sends it to the principal and then they start freaking out
00:50:42
like oh, oh, Do we need to do any damage control?
00:50:46
I like well maybe you know you have a relationship with him,
00:50:48
can you ask them to delete it? So then they Loop the principal
00:50:52
back in and says he's so busy. And she actually said it, struck
00:50:56
the to, he's so busy. I think he will delete it.
00:50:59
Right looting that he's quite right.
00:51:02
Well, you know, now, if you're a public records request, you
00:51:05
something unrelated, this comes up and as you can imagine, some
00:51:11
of these parents were shocked. It was shared.
00:51:15
I want to say like, on Friday or Thursday of last week on a
00:51:20
private Facebook group, which then at that point, it was
00:51:24
shared with me. And I'm like, what?
00:51:26
I think we're going on the weekend that I sought.
00:51:28
I'm like this, this What we've been thinking, this whole time
00:51:31
that the CDA is spending their time doing this is going after
00:51:34
these parents, we see it in the comments, we see it on social
00:51:37
media. Now, we have evidence that the
00:51:39
CTA was funding opposition research on parents of simply
00:51:43
wanted to get their school zone and so I knew it was going to be
00:51:47
big. I kind of want to make sure I
00:51:49
got all the facts. Right.
00:51:50
I got the I got the information from the public records request.
00:51:54
My redacted emails of everybody that wasn't the government
00:51:57
official because I want, you know, even though you can
00:52:00
probably find it, I didn't want Twitter to flag me and take it
00:52:03
down as we saw today. I think with Jay bhattacharya on
00:52:07
his post on some other criticism of journalists.
00:52:11
Right? That's beside the point.
00:52:12
But I, you know, did that made? Sure it got a fax right posted
00:52:15
it and sure enough it goes crazy and afternoons picked it up.
00:52:18
It was Fox Federalist. Daily Caller, daily wire.
00:52:23
I think the next day after Fox published it or that same day,
00:52:27
Fox published it. It was just all Open that wall
00:52:30
to wall coverage for every hour box was picking it up and
00:52:33
talking about. So I mean it's obvious.
00:52:38
I feel like this was this a shock that they were doing this
00:52:42
or do you feel like you knew all along that this ETA was doing
00:52:46
stuff like this behind the curtain when it comes to
00:52:50
opposition research or looking into parents or do you do where
00:52:55
you kind of shocked that this was the level, the how good low
00:52:58
they would go on this? I was shocked, we had it in
00:53:00
writing but I wasn't shocked that it was being done.
00:53:04
We've seen that the CTA And and utilities with a must on the
00:53:08
California Federation of teachers sign.
00:53:11
So those are powerful State unions.
00:53:12
It's not surprising at all. And I guess my message is that,
00:53:16
you know, this is how the money is being spent.
00:53:18
It's not being spent on better policies for first teachers,
00:53:22
right, is what you think it should be.
00:53:23
One of the things that's being spent is touka is researching
00:53:27
your constituents essentially and spending money going after
00:53:30
them trying to dig dirt. And and so it didn't surprise us
00:53:34
because we've seen it. We saw the effect Of it.
00:53:36
We thought it was the case and now, we did see her writing.
00:53:41
This is around the same time, in March of 21, something similar
00:53:44
happened. So parents were rallying and in
00:53:47
LA, to try to get schools to reopen, and people were quoted
00:53:50
in the media. And so, you ti la funded, a
00:53:54
researcher contractor, to try to find out more information on who
00:53:59
these people were that being we're being quoted in the media
00:54:02
and their, their whole goal in that was to paint the Who wanted
00:54:06
their is thesis was if you wanted open schools, you're
00:54:09
racist, you're white, you're white, you're white, white
00:54:12
nationalist, and you're a bigot that's kind of message.
00:54:15
They're trying to sell. So they're trying to get
00:54:17
research on who it was that was ultimately quoted here.
00:54:22
They wanted to get the ethnicities and the back the
00:54:24
financial background like are you?
00:54:25
Well off, are you rich, like you rich white parent or you?
00:54:28
You know you know maybe poor, maybe you're black or Latino so
00:54:34
they were they were trying to To say, like trying to paint this
00:54:37
picture, rich, white parents. So they went after this
00:54:39
professor who is Middle Eastern. And, and if they that's
00:54:45
Baltimore, that's how we got this information was because
00:54:48
this researcher kind of spelled out, the goal of the research to
00:54:51
clearly to this parent that was quoted.
00:54:54
And so we saw evidence of it back then that you ti la was
00:54:57
doing right. But we thought let's just let me
00:54:59
that's just you ti la. We know utility is very radical.
00:55:02
They were responsible for school closures, you know, we have the
00:55:05
the The teachers union president there, she was saying things
00:55:08
like, well, you know, I'm paraphrasing here.
00:55:11
But, you know, babies, may not may not have learned their their
00:55:13
ABCs, but at least they know the, you know, you know, protest
00:55:18
in coup and just like we talked with, we turned our kids in a
00:55:21
radicals, we're not teaching them actually, you know, Reading
00:55:23
Writing arithmetic. But we're letting them be good,
00:55:26
radicals, and, and so we saw that there, but we didn't
00:55:30
necessarily know for sure that CTA was doing it.
00:55:33
Which is larger. The sure enough, that's what,
00:55:35
that's what. A union dues for the many
00:55:36
teachers that are listening. That's what your funding.
00:55:39
And so if you're upset with it which imagine you are the way
00:55:43
that you can do that is opt out of the CTA.
00:55:46
You don't have to give them your money Supreme Court decision.
00:55:50
Janice I don't know who the other side of the Virginia's was
00:55:54
the side petitioning, was able to win and you can opt out of
00:55:57
the Union not have to be so you do not have to give your money
00:56:01
to these political operatives who are spending it you know on
00:56:05
issues that you may be Care about our disagree with on
00:56:09
opposition, research on the parents of the families that are
00:56:12
there to serve. Is that technically a dossier
00:56:15
air? I mean, I guess you see, if they
00:56:19
have individual files, I know. But the ones and in l.a.
00:56:22
probably with that case, they probably had files on them.
00:56:25
We joke that some of us parents have been active for a while,
00:56:27
they promised they'd probably have files on us as well.
00:56:30
You know, I like to see that, right?
00:56:31
Can you give me my file? I like to know what's in it and
00:56:35
at the same time I was getting threats online, like just crazy
00:56:39
stuff that people assume that I was just fun to play some dark
00:56:42
money. They're doing these weird web, I
00:56:44
don't know if they're called, but they would run like my
00:56:47
Social media into this sort of diagram, it will show that like
00:56:51
because of people who retweeted me.
00:56:53
It was just this weird thing like it should like all these
00:56:55
webs like a spider web of all that was connected to and
00:56:58
therefore that that was like evidence that I was part of some
00:57:02
Dark Wing. Adopt, you know, right, wing
00:57:04
dark, you know, entity and really I was just a front group,
00:57:09
you know, and she was constantly going on for months about how
00:57:12
all she has the receipts and she's gonna dig up and she oh,
00:57:15
I'm going to be doomed when I'm, you know.
00:57:17
She's done with me like all this nonsense and I was just laughing
00:57:21
at the chi must have had his biggest crush on me or
00:57:23
something. Because she probably wants to
00:57:27
date you. So exactly exactly words of a
00:57:30
oh, say, hey don't remember her name but you know, if she ever
00:57:33
watches us, I know you wanted to take but unfortunately you can't
00:57:40
date her, so sorry. I am married, man.
00:57:48
The cute little marshmallow I do.
00:57:50
I do three months, three months old, so it was his anything come
00:57:55
out of this. Do you think for the CTA, or is
00:57:57
it just a blemish on their record or do you think the
00:58:01
numbers? Which I'm now hearing because
00:58:09
people bring them to my attention is pretty radical.
00:58:12
She's some pretty crazy stuff on social media.
00:58:14
She locked all of her social media accounts and then she
00:58:16
later, deleted her Twitter account.
00:58:19
I'd love to be a fly on the wall, for those conversations at
00:58:21
CTA headquarters CTA headquarters.
00:58:24
But, you know, they're not going to respond.
00:58:25
They're not going to put out a statement, right?
00:58:27
Because I'll just draw more attention to this, but I think
00:58:30
what it does do is it, damages their reputation, and I'm hoping
00:58:33
that teachers, see this and say this is the organization that
00:58:37
I'm supporting With my with these you need to use of almost
00:58:40
a thousand dollars a year. I know I'm done with this, I'm
00:58:43
going to end my membership and I'm going to not give my money
00:58:46
to an organization that ultimately hurts our professions
00:58:49
reputation and hurts our families.
00:58:52
So you know I think the probably do damage control maybe they'll
00:58:56
maybe see maybe CTA will try to do some sort of fake parent
00:58:58
Outreach to make it seem like they're competing try to fix it
00:59:03
image. Who knows?
00:59:03
Maybe they'll actually do real Outreach, who knows?
00:59:06
But we'll see. I think Kitt, I think this point
00:59:08
probably is going to be a pretty big, knock a pretty big
00:59:11
flourish. So, if anything else, it's more
00:59:15
of a fear victory of we were proven, right?
00:59:20
We knew that they were doing dirty stuff on us.
00:59:23
It, you know, just throw it on the pile of stuff that people
00:59:27
who were called Fringe extremist for two years, are now being
00:59:31
proved and right on. It's just the pile keeps getting
00:59:33
bigger and bigger. Yeah, so that's basically where
00:59:36
we're at is that we knew the CTA was working behind the scenes
00:59:40
and they weren't spying or doing Oppo.
00:59:42
Research on people. Figure out what's going on and
00:59:45
who they were? Who was funding them?
00:59:47
Yeah, an education is bigger than your cycle.
00:59:49
Right now we just saw the test scores and there's where this
00:59:52
weird part where people are now recognizing how bad the school
00:59:56
closures were. And now you have the very same
00:59:58
people that were either advocating for schools to close
01:00:01
or censoring people who are trying to get schools to open
01:00:04
coming out and saying recognizing this and then trying
01:00:07
to blame Trump for some reason this or try to blame Republicans
01:00:12
right? Even though Those it was people
01:00:14
like Trump and 20 July. Twenty twenty said, school
01:00:18
should open on. That's really all you needed to
01:00:20
do. We knew it was safe and that
01:00:21
time but somehow they're trying to blame him for that.
01:00:24
And in many ways maybe they, maybe he is to blame because a
01:00:27
lot of people in these blue areas have Trump derangement
01:00:29
syndrome. And so the moment that truck
01:00:31
took that position, they had to take the opposite position and
01:00:34
keep schools closed but we saw two Santa's open schools up in
01:00:37
Florida. We just find other other red
01:00:40
States. They were doing just fine.
01:00:43
There's some blue Cities within red states that weren't, but
01:00:45
overall the state to refine and not here in California, and we
01:00:51
now have some sort of revisionism going on whether
01:00:53
acting like it was the prior Administration that did it.
01:00:56
And it was, it was us Democrats. The Democrats.
01:00:59
Beginner was us Democrats that got schools open and trying to
01:01:03
blame Trump and the Republicans is pretty, pretty sad.
01:01:06
And I don't think anyone's buying it, but of course, we're
01:01:09
going into an election year and the pulley must show how Bad
01:01:13
this issue is and they have to try to change history.
01:01:18
So speaking of a gas lighting. Yeah.
01:01:21
So speaking of Elections because we're coming up on the hour, as
01:01:25
you mentioned earlier, you announced your candidacy to run
01:01:29
for school board. So since we're on this topic of
01:01:31
like gaslighting, well, it's on Twitter people, follow you, do
01:01:35
you have any update about what's going on with the Sacramento Bee
01:01:41
and then maybe give a background to the To the audience to like.
01:01:45
Yeah, I thought you were going to kind of lead into that
01:01:48
Cynthia other going to say well we know you announced your
01:01:51
candidacy and speaking of gaslighting.
01:01:53
How is your candidacy of going? Yeah.
01:01:56
What are you going with this? How's it going over there?
01:02:04
Yeah, so for those who don't know the SEC be sorry, I have a
01:02:08
dogs here barking in the background one second here.
01:02:16
So yeah. So Sac B is a their sack be in
01:02:21
the sack be editorial board. So I want to make sure this
01:02:23
distinguished. They don't want to just you know
01:02:25
people do disagree with the sack be in general.
01:02:27
I don't want to put the sack be journalists in this category but
01:02:31
we have the sack be editorial board.
01:02:32
That has attacked our politicians here in Placer
01:02:34
County got after school board, members gone up for posture
01:02:37
County. Supervisors.
01:02:38
Going after a business owners that took a position that hey we
01:02:42
should be open Target them. Write nasty things about the
01:02:45
false things about Them. And then after this editorial
01:02:48
board is one journalist in particular, does this?
01:02:51
She then blocks them on Twitter. She's blocked reopen California
01:02:55
schools on Twitter. Right?
01:02:57
So this act the editorial board has refused to even consider an
01:03:04
endorsement for have an endorsement meeting for the most
01:03:07
consequential Education Office race, the state superintendent
01:03:11
of Public Instruction, they're not doing that.
01:03:14
They're not doing any other school board.
01:03:16
Races in our area and we have dozens of school board races
01:03:19
money. So I and some of which are much
01:03:21
larger than the school district that I'm running.
01:03:24
But no, there's two districts that they want to have
01:03:26
endorsement means for the district.
01:03:28
And I'm running Roseville city school, district and Rockland
01:03:32
Unified School District. Now, what do those two school
01:03:34
districts have in common? Well, they either have someone.
01:03:37
They have two people running that have been the most vocal
01:03:41
one of the most vocal people about getting our schools to
01:03:43
reopen. And that's still that's it.
01:03:47
That's what we have in common. She's not interested in the
01:03:50
school districts. Next door that, you know, might
01:03:53
have four times as many students that has, you know, might be
01:03:56
pretty consequential because they have expanded seats.
01:03:58
No, just our races and so, I get an email from the same
01:04:02
journalist. I blocked me on Twitter.
01:04:03
Inviting me to this endorsement meeting.
01:04:07
I've now received an email from her boss, the editor for the
01:04:11
editorial board. I need to get back to him.
01:04:15
But I'm going to ask him a couple questions, like, why do
01:04:18
you think this could be impartial if she's blocked
01:04:22
people on Twitter and already has shown how she feels about
01:04:27
some of the positions we've taken?
01:04:29
Why are you only focused on our races and not even the state
01:04:32
superintendents race? You know, sauce to be asking a
01:04:35
couple of questions about that and see what he says before I
01:04:38
make my ultimate decision. So but yeah, it's just it's just
01:04:45
funny. Kevin Kylie's put out a state,
01:04:48
kind of chemically Joe Patterson up here.
01:04:50
They refused to even participate just because of the attacks that
01:04:55
this particular board and and frankly, they've become
01:04:59
irrelevant, you know, everyone up here knows.
01:05:03
They're just even even people on their side I think recognize who
01:05:08
they are and what they are. So it honestly if I would have
01:05:11
gotten an endorsement from them, People would be questioning.
01:05:16
Some of my supporters might be questioning who I am and what I
01:05:19
stand for. So it is quite an interesting
01:05:25
situation. no more political drama and yeah, you know, it's a
01:05:37
I would but the gas lighting though, I am keep going back to
01:05:39
that in the gaslighting of Jonathan and his candidacy.
01:05:45
But let's kind of shift real quick, but before we sign off,
01:05:48
because I do want to give you a chance to talk about sorry and I
01:05:53
think there was a chain reaction between my dog barking and then
01:05:55
setting off your dogs barking. So, I think it was a big bark
01:06:00
chain from one end of California to the other.
01:06:04
But before we sign off, I want to Sort of let people know what
01:06:08
you're doing, which is running for school board and maybe you
01:06:10
can tell people why you're running, what your goal is, I
01:06:13
mean, we've already just gone over.
01:06:16
What's wrong with education? There's a lot of stuff wrong
01:06:18
with education in California, test scores are down.
01:06:22
You have this ETA who is spying on parents.
01:06:24
I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on and tell us about your
01:06:29
goals and why you want to make an impact through the school
01:06:32
board and why you're running. Yeah.
01:06:35
So I'm obviously the Very traditional thing you may want
01:06:38
good curriculum. We want to see schools.
01:06:39
We want normalcy for our kids, in our staff at schools.
01:06:44
But I would say some of the extra pieces that maybe don't
01:06:47
get talked about as much and it was just a passion of mine is
01:06:50
how do we fight back on the state and many kids?
01:06:53
How do we work together with other local jurisdictions?
01:06:56
Including other school boards to come together to either speak at
01:07:00
the capital against right? Resolutions against bills fight
01:07:04
these bills because we can't, you know, Can you get that hand
01:07:07
of these policies from the state that are so damaging and
01:07:10
destructive in, or at least annoying to our school districts
01:07:13
and our administrators and our teachers.
01:07:15
So how do we work together to do that?
01:07:17
Such I think more of a maybe an on an uncommon thing that I'd
01:07:21
like to achieve the other thing which I just put out on my
01:07:24
social media two days ago, you know, I did I did put out an
01:07:28
advance knowing this story was going, we had was going to come
01:07:31
because I did just get here about it but Our teachers were
01:07:36
great at reopening schools where I was at.
01:07:38
They're not very well represented by the California
01:07:41
Teachers Association. I would like to see our teachers
01:07:46
disassociate from California Teachers Association.
01:07:49
They can save themselves a thousand dollars a year, and
01:07:53
they feel a little bit of that. But by not their money to know,
01:07:59
or organization that heart aspect of something that like a
01:08:03
change. And again, just you Of that
01:08:07
great the shoes just warming, make sure that you know, again
01:08:14
clap to fight, you know, to fight you make sure you're
01:08:16
following a but we're not but, you know, not going as radical
01:08:22
as some of these other school districts or what, the
01:08:23
California Department of Education is doing on.
01:08:26
We could go together and we might actually be able to form
01:08:28
something in a cost-effective way by working with these
01:08:31
districts in working at the county level or maybe, you know,
01:08:35
cost a couple different counties in our area.
01:08:36
So those are some of the goals that I have.
01:08:38
I did a show in Cynthia, I did get my walk piece today right
01:08:42
here such as shown or so, it's pretty good.
01:08:44
I got some in the back here. Got Kevin Kylie's endorsement.
01:08:49
How do you Halls endorsement? Wonderful, people really
01:08:52
appreciative of their support and I'm looking forward to
01:08:56
winning this race in having to see on us the school board.
01:09:02
You're kind of breaking up that was thinking like, oh, the cta's
01:09:04
spying on you, they're already breaking into the transmitter on
01:09:10
this connection, right? Probably, you know, who knows
01:09:13
that he ran in some races people that follow, you know, home and
01:09:18
all the stuff because, well, they want to find out.
01:09:21
Do you really live in the district?
01:09:22
I think I'd be upset at this point.
01:09:24
I think that I don't live Minister but it's pretty insane
01:09:28
of these very local date races. How much For the CTA, my put
01:09:33
into finding a candidate. And you're going to hear some,
01:09:38
there's going to be some local news there San Diego.
01:09:40
You might here soon, there might be some news up here, but
01:09:43
there's some active same kind of politicking happening.
01:09:47
Whether they're deathly, afraid, the cta's.
01:09:50
Definitely afraid that candidates like myself.
01:09:53
Are going to get elected, is what we're seeing.
01:09:55
And it's showing through their actions and hopefully the
01:09:59
tactics actually bite them. Elves because kick themselves
01:10:04
because it's going to it's going to hurt them.
01:10:07
I think in the end when we see this come out, Yeah and like I
01:10:13
say always people want to figure out how they can make a
01:10:15
difference or they think it's too hard or they're like, oh I
01:10:19
don't know what to do. I'm like they always need
01:10:23
someone on school board, you know, and I think school boards,
01:10:25
one of those positions that people kind of they kind of
01:10:29
gloss over they think it's not that big of a deal.
01:10:32
It's a big deal after two years and you saw what happened in
01:10:35
California with schools being closed and your kids education
01:10:39
suffering and a huge impact on your life and your kid's life
01:10:44
now. Yep.
01:10:44
And even if you don't have kids, property values, it can affect
01:10:48
your property values. If you want good schools, if you
01:10:51
don't have a fiscally responsible School District,
01:10:53
next thing, you know, you're going to be facing Bond measure
01:10:55
after Bond. Measure to raise your taxes.
01:10:59
To pay for their fiscal, you know, malfeasance.
01:11:03
And so matters really does matter in many cases, you know,
01:11:07
we don't have a lot of say, frankly at the state level and
01:11:10
depending these Ultra Blue areas, you know, if you have
01:11:13
someone in confident, they're going to stay in your right.
01:11:16
If you have a lot more say in influence over local politics
01:11:20
than you think. And so School Board is
01:11:22
definitely something to get involved in and pay attention to
01:11:25
And if you want to find out more about me or support me, you can
01:11:28
go to Zach person. Dot coms, EA CH are ESO n.com.
01:11:33
I've about me and I do have a donate button in case you feel
01:11:36
so good. Damn, you took my line for me.
01:11:43
It was gonna be my next point, was it?
01:11:44
Okay? I was going to go into my whole,
01:11:48
like closings, Bill, thanks for coming on, blah, blah.
01:11:51
Where can we find her way? You know, I do that at the end
01:11:54
of every show but you know, I guess I take it away.
01:11:57
Jonathan, why don't you just take us out?
01:12:02
Well, thank you, thank you for having me.
01:12:06
You can find me at Jay's Ackerson on Twitter.
01:12:10
Same thing with Facebook. It's just been cats a person and
01:12:13
I do have Instagram. Now, you know, it's just
01:12:16
reposting. I think what I say on Facebook,
01:12:18
but I find me there and my website, I kids Ackerson.com.
01:12:23
So, hey, you know, when you're running for office, you got
01:12:27
these things, these things add up right besides I got I got
01:12:30
yard signs, this things add up. So I'm getting less and Shy
01:12:35
about asking for contributions because they're necessary to be
01:12:39
successful in campaign so maybe that's why I jumped the gun
01:12:43
there a little bit. You're very anxious as pretty.
01:12:46
Okay, I've talked to plenty of candidates who say the same
01:12:51
thing. They don't people think mailers
01:12:53
are cheap and walk. It's not those materials are not
01:12:56
cheap and they are crucial to winning though you know.
01:13:01
Not just having a hundred thousand followers on Instagram
01:13:04
is not going to win you elections.
01:13:06
So, for all those people who think social media influencers
01:13:09
are going to win elections, that's not how it works.
01:13:11
You have to get out, you have to do the ground game.
01:13:12
You have to do the mailers, you have to get your name out there
01:13:15
and that costs a lot of money. So you want to help out.
01:13:19
If you're listening, you are listening to someone who is
01:13:22
going to be a great candidate for school board.
01:13:25
Knows a lot about education, maybe someday, he'll move up the
01:13:28
ranks, more in education in California, we can only help go
01:13:32
check out Jonathan site so I'll take it over to Cynthia,
01:13:36
Cynthia, where can people find you?
01:13:39
And your, your thoughts and everything that's going on.
01:13:43
You can follow me on Instagram and Twitter and Facebook.
01:13:46
You can just search me up a Cynthia Crowley.
01:13:48
So it's cynthiadawne2. Name is Kyle week.
01:13:52
Aui Cynthia is a Savage on Twitter so she's a good follow.
01:13:59
If you all are here, Savage takes on everything.
01:14:02
Just go follow her on Twitter, she's fiery, but most
01:14:05
apparently, she's Oh, go ahead. What are you chicken.
01:14:12
I'm on take talk to, she's on Tick-Tock as well, so go follow
01:14:16
her over there. And to everyone who tuned in
01:14:19
tonight, I'll play us out. It's okay.
01:14:21
Jonathan, I won't put you on the spot for everyone who is
01:14:25
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