In this episode of the California Underground Podcast, hosts Phil and Camille discuss the recent political assassination of Charlie Kirk and its implications for California politics. They reflect on the importance of civil discourse, the political reactions to Kirk's death, and the controversial comments made by Jimmy Kimmel. Additionally, they analyze Gavin Newsom's new initiative aimed at addressing the mental health crisis among young men, questioning its timing and effectiveness so soon after Kirk's death. The conversation emphasizes the need for open dialogue across political divides and the challenges of discussing sensitive topics in today's political climate.
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Less than a week after Charlie Kirk's death, Gavin Newsom
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launches an initiative to reach out to young men, much like
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Charlie Kirk did during his life.
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Is it just a coincidence, the timing, or is it suspiciously
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evil? Also, Jimmy Kimmel gets
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cancelled for what he said about Charlie Kirk.
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We're going to talk about all that and more on this episode of
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the California Underground Podcast, starting right now.
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What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to the
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Calvary Underground podcast, the most trusted podcast for all
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things California politics. I am your host, Phil.
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We got a lot to get to tonight, mostly about Charlie Kirk.
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It's a little bit of a different episode tonight.
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I know we usually focus on California specifics on
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California specific political topical news, but obviously the
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Charlie Kirk assassination last week kind of preempts everything
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that's going on in the world right now.
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And Gavin Newsom obviously could not just wait to not take
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political advantage of what is going on.
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We're going to talk about that as well as Jimmy Kimmel.
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But first, if you haven't already and you want to support
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And as always, joining me is my trusty Co host, the best, the
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fastest researcher in the West. Camille.
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How you doing tonight Camille? I'm good, thank you.
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How are you? I'm good getting over being a
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little sick. Just got back from a trip back
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east. Got a little bit of a cold which
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is weird and annoying. But here we are.
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Thursday night, a special Thursday night episode talking
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about, well, the news, the news that is basically all the news
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right now, which is Charlie Kirk.
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I had released a video last week kind of giving my initial
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reaction to it. And I thank everyone who kind of
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tuned in and gave me their thoughts and comments and stuff
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about that. And it's been about, well, it's
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been over a week, right? It happened on Wednesday last
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week and it hasn't gotten easier.
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I will admit that right now it, it hasn't gotten easier.
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I'm still grappling with what happened in the finality of it.
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To me, it it's very odd because it's odd to me because I can't
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seem to get past for whatever reason, I, I think he's still
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like in critical condition and we're all just praying for him
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to come out of it. But then the reality strikes are
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like, no, he's gone, like he's not coming back.
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This is this is a real thing and I've really been struggling with
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that and sort of the fallout of all that.
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So this is our first show since then.
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Since I was traveling last week and we didn't have a show on
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Tuesday, I figured I would let you have the floor and give me
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your thoughts about what happened to Charlie Kirk.
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We can kind of start there and we'll get into Kimmel and
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Newsome as well. And to everybody in the comments
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and chats, you know, let us know your thoughts as well.
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We're, we're paying attention what's going on in the chat.
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Let us know your thoughts about this as well.
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So with that, what are your thoughts?
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Thank you. I actually woke up with a cold.
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So yeah. And I'm glad you said something
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about everyone in the chat because I don't want to say this
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is a safe place. I would love to think this is a
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safe place, but you're making public comments.
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But you know, I think we're all kind of in this together,
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really, probably most of us didn't know him personally, but
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he has some sort of effect on our lives.
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And so please, yes, if you want to share any thoughts in the
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comments about just how you've been dealing with it or just
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your thoughts on everything and where the world is at, please,
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please go ahead and and share. So I will admit I I did not
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follow Charlie or Turning Point on social media, but weirdly
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enough, very recently, like in the last few months, I have
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found myself tuning in to his debates.
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And I absolutely love what he was doing.
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I so appreciate and respect and admire him and how like I would
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watch him. And I want to be like that.
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Like especially, you know, being on this podcast for nearly three
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years, we're often talking about topics and we give our opinions,
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our sides. But do you know you and I have a
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Messiah behind the scenes for a few months now talking about how
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we want to talk to more people. We want to hear their sides.
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We don't just want to be this like conservative talking head.
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We don't want to be like, you need to vote R for everything.
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We, we really want to talk to people and listen to people who
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we don't agree with and hear their sides and hear their point
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of views and see how we can come together.
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We've been talking about that for quite a while.
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And I don't want to give too much information away, but
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ironically we had a conversation Tuesday last week before and
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after the podcast about us reaching out to more of the left
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and and having conversations, civil conversations, civil
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discord. And we agree that we need more
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of that. And so I have been for several
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months watching his stuff and just like his debate style and
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how he's so kind, he's so articulate.
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He is, you know, very well read. He's got the facts right there.
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But he's able to have these really friendly discussions and
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prove his point. And I want to be like that.
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I do like I found myself kind of joking, you know, I'm way older
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than Charlie was, but I found myself joking like when I grew
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up. I want to be more like that.
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And, and not 100% like, I don't want to be like, oh, I didn't
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agree with everything he said, but nobody agrees with Phil and
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I don't even agree here all the time.
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But you know, I did find myself being like, I I want to be more
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like that. And and of course, this is we,
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you and I have friends, good friends that are good friends
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with the Kirks. And so it's a little, I think a
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little more close to home because we're talking to people
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who are quite literally, you know, we're, we're going to
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campuses with him. We're sitting right by his side
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at these debates. And so talking to them and just
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realizing how final this loss is, death is, is weird.
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As a Christian, I know it's not final.
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I'm not going to get into that. Like, to each their own with
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their beliefs, but it's still, well, I believe he's in heaven
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and fully alive there. He leaves behind a very young
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wife. He leaves behind very young
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children who will grow up. Never know.
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I can. And as a wife and a mom, that
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really hurts me. So yeah.
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We, we, like you said, we do know people who have gone out to
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turning point events like this. And so we reached out to him and
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obviously it's it's jarring to them and you're not really
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revealing too much. We had been talking, we've been
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talking for a while, kind of like going back and forth with
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this idea of, I know we have a lot of people on the show and
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usually they lean politically a certain way.
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And we've always been talking about not becoming this kind of
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echo chamber where you can come and discuss and we may disagree
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with you. And we've been kicking around
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this idea for a while. And we had discussed an idea on
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Tuesday night after the podcast. So before this had the day
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before this happened about the idea of kind of reaching out,
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getting people on the show. We've been in contacts with
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certain gubernatorial candidates who are definitely not on our
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side, who are interested in coming on the show, having a
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civil discourse. We're not going to agree on
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everything, and we're not going to sit here and pretend like
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we're promoting them. I know people are going to say,
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well, you give this person a platform, but that was something
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that if you're going to go on and honor what Charlie Kirk did
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in your own way, that is something we are now.
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I think I'm, I don't, I don't, I'm not speaking for Camille,
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but I think I'm more motivated or inspired after all of this to
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say, OK, it is time to start talking to people.
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It is time to start reaching across the aisle and talking to
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people and I've always been a big proponent of this myself in
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my personal life of like you got to talk to other people you got
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to talk to people who disagree with you and it's OK, it's OK to
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disagree with you. I have family members who
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disagree with me politically. We have close friends who
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disagree and they are some of the closest friends we have and
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we disagree politically on a number of things.
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But it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, if
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push came to shove and there was an emergency, these are the kind
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of friends who would drop everything and hop on an
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airplane and come help us no matter what, like those kind of
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friends. And then also the, the, the fact
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that you talk to a lot of people about this and you might find
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that you actually, you actually have more in common with people
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than you think this preconceived notion of, well, you're AD or an
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R or team, you know, red team or blue team, I can't talk to you.
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You're so, and so you're so out there.
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I think 9 times out of 10, you're going to talk to people
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and find out that there's a lot you agree with with other
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people. And it's sort of just stuff on
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the periphery that maybe you disagree with, but maybe the big
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chunk in the middle is what you all agree with.
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So yeah, we, we have, we've talked about that.
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So there will be some announcements regarding like
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maybe a different style format, what we're going to try out,
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maybe some sort of panel with people who disagree and have
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like civil conversations. Excuse me.
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So, but that's just outside of all of this.
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Let me know your what your thoughts are.
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I'm going to take a sip of tea real quick.
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I I did think it was kind of bizarre that the timing on our
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conversation, like I said, we've talked about it for quite a
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while, but we literally brought it up again last Tuesday.
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You know, we texted back and forth and then we sat here after
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the podcast and we're like, let's, you know, like writing
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notes. And then we immediately
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contacted our marketing team and we were like, hey, we need to
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put together a meeting. And then it was like we woke up
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the next day and yeah, that was kind of weird, you know?
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But but yeah, I, you know, we've all heard you shouldn't talk
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politics or religion. No, we all need to learn how to
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talk to each other and get along.
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Actually, that's a huge part of the problem here is that we've,
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I think we've been told don't talk about these things.
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And then no one knows how to talk about them.
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And now this is how we're seeing things so-called resolved, which
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is sick and sad and not the answer.
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And it's not, you know, nobody wants this.
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Even people who are cheering online, nobody wants this.
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I heard a couple people say that this kind of felt like September
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11th, and my gut reaction was, you know, September 11th was
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3000 people. It was an attack from a foreign
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enemy. At first it felt weird to kind
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of compare this to the September 11th, but then when they kind of
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explained it's, it's not because of the magnitude of death.
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It's the fact that it's this realization that is this the
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world we live in now. And that I think is the scariest
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thing is, is this the world we live in now where like, there
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are people out there in the dark corners of the Internet who are
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getting fed these ideas about one person or another.
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And they may just take matters into their own hands and
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believe, like, I'm doing this great service to the country.
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And that that did hit me a little bit of like, oh, are we
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in this kind of weird new paradigm of like, now it's now
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you've opened that door that we can't go back now.
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It's kind of a weird thing, like, OK, we can't go back now
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because what if someone else thinks this is a good idea?
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So that is a little scary to me. Right.
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And I don't want to make the comparison.
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I'm going to make the comparison as much as I don't want to make
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the comparison of Charter Kirk to MLK, but just kind of some of
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the things that I've seen online, like very much objecting
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to, like the flags at half staff and stuff.
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When MLK was killed, Lyndon B Johnson ordered the flags at
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half staff. Many churches were ringing their
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bells for for him. There was also riots in over 100
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cities in America, which we didn't see this time, which
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Hooray that that's a positive. Of course no one wants riots.
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I know Billy Graham made statements.
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The Pope at the time, I think Pope Paul was the 6th.
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I don't, I don't recall he, he made comments, You know, they
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were saying we can't, we can't get violent, we can't riot.
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We need to, you know, turn and love each other and be better in
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our communities, be more accepting of the black people in
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our communities, you know, stuff like that.
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So there were similarities in the response and and you
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obviously we now have MLK Day because of Reagan.
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So I'm not saying all that is necessary or again, I don't want
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to like make that comparison of the same people, but I do see
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similarities in a lot of the things and the response.
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And so I just wanted to kind of like, hey, this has happened
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before, you know? You had brought up, this is the
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one good point that I kind of wanted to discuss and I sent you
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the article before it was really good, an article on Zero Hedge
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about someone had kind of broken down what what they saw from
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this. And I thought it was pretty
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interesting the fact that there are a lot of people online who
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are going, well, now we know who the real fascists are, and
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they've kind of broken down this argument.
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You can go look, go to Zero Hedge.
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You can look up this article, might screen share in a second
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that in a weird way, we're still arguing in this sort of leftist
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paradigm. And the fact that we're still
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just naming every bad person as a fascist is kind of using their
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language. There's a fantastic book.
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It's, it's got to be, Oh my gosh, you got to be 20 / 20
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years old at this time. It's, it was written by, I
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believe, a liberal college professor.
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He was also, I think he was an advisor to Barack Obama in his
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first, in his first run in 2008. And he wrote this book called
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Don't Think of an Elephant. And it was about the power of
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language and the fact that like when you start to frame an
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argument and you you put out the frame, your opponent can only
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argue within that frame. And when they argue in your
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frame, you lose. Like you're going to lose 99% of
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the time because you can't argue in someone else's frame.
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They already have the argument and to that point, what they
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were saying is when they're saw, when people are saying, well,
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now we know who the real fascists are because you shot
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Charlie Kirk and you tried to silence him because you thought
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he was a fascist. You're not.
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You're using their language about fascist because that's
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what the leftist kind of branded everything as bad as a fascist
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or Hitler, all this stuff. But there were other bad types
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of government in a way. And this is maybe why I always
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call leftist status is because there were totalitarians or
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authoritarians who've killed millions of people, Stalin,
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Lenin Pulpit, I mean, you can go on and on and on.
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And these were status, they were authoritarians and stuff like
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that. So I thought that was a pretty
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interesting article to talk about how we we're arguing in
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this weird way we're still arguing and what the left has
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constructed. This left tilt of it's all about
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the fascists and who's a fascist, who's not a fascist.
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And this was another. Let me pull up this real quick
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because I think this is an interesting tweet that they kind
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of broke down. This is from the article again,
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this is on Zero Hedge and this is the title of the article with
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the reactions to Charlie Kirk's assassination reveal.
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And this was from Anna Paulina Luna, which said you don't get
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assassinated for lying. And it shows Charlie Kirk,
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Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, RFKJFK.
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And the author goes on to say that even then to have Charlie
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Kirk next to these people, you have to reach this sort of
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lionization of left-leaning liberal kind of historical
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figures. So those are basically the only
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four that they could cite to, which again, is sort of arguing
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in their framework of you have to be this good to be recognized
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as someone on this level. But it's almost like one of
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these things. It's not like the other in the
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sense that you have 3 or 4 left-leaning people and then you
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have Charlie Kirk. So that that does change in the
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in sense of the actual, in a sense of of how we're arguing
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about this. And who knows, maybe the maybe
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language changes. But I did want to kind of point
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that out that we are still kind of arguing this weird like
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fashion fascist, not fascist. We're still arguing in their
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paradigm. And in reality, we should be
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talking, we should really be exposing the bad authoritarians
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throughout history and the bad status like Angela.
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Well, what was another person who brought up Bill Ayers was a
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status authoritarian communist and he was a professor.
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He went on to be from Weather Underground, you know, domestic
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terrorist group went on to be a professor.
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Not a big deal. Angela Davis, who provided the
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weapons used in a courtroom attack that left four people
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dead, including a judge, can be lauded as a civil rights icon in
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honor with a documentary narrated narrated by Mumaya Abu
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Jamal. So again, we're kind of in this
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weird paradigm where it's still left-leaning, everything's still
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left-leaning, the argument's left-leaning, the media's
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left-leaning, but I don't know. I thought that was interesting.
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Do you have any thoughts on on? Did you get a chance to check
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out that article? I, I read like half of the
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article, to be honest, right before we hopped on.
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So, but I did find the half that I read it was, yes, very
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interesting that that's exactly what we do.
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You reference the book How to Think of an Elephant.
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I tried reading that book. You recommended it several times
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over the years. I tried reading it.
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I'm going to be honest, I was so bored.
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I was taking notes, but I was like, I I'm have to get back to
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this book someday. It's not a very compelling book.
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I feel like the first chapter is probably the most important and
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then after that it's. OK, well, I read that so OK.
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So as long as you read the first chapter, I think you're you're
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fine. You get the gist of the book.
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So today is actually the the 5th anniversary of Ruth Bader
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Ginsburg's death, which of course she died of natural
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causes when she was older. And I don't, I don't like say
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this to to toot my own horn, but my Facebook memories.
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I'm going to read what I wrote because I have a point.
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Again, I'll pat myself on the back.
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But Ruth RGB spent her entire career fighting for gender
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equality, and for that I am thankful to her and to other
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women who have fought for us. Certainly there are things
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labeled as women's rights that I don't agree with, but I still
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recognize the good that she has done for women.
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Sorry, apparently can't read. She was a daughter, a sister, a
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mother and a grandmother, and her life mattered.
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Very real people are hurting now and mourning her loss.
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So let's recognize that. So just going back to Charlie,
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whether you agreed with him or not, very real people are
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mourning his death. He was a real person.
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He was a son and a father. He was a husband, he was a
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grandson. He was a cousin and an activist.
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You know, he was, he was many things, too many people.
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He was a real person and real people are mourning him.
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And so I think we just all need to recognize that.
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Someone brought up in the chat, and this is probably my final
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point, that we can move on to Jimmy Kimmel.
00:20:59
Someone said Democrats are cooked.
00:21:03
I noticed this. Based on what I've been seeing
00:21:07
in the media, this is a hard argument to for those on the
00:21:14
left. And this is almost an impossible
00:21:17
topic for them to discuss because it it's so it's so hard
00:21:24
for them to rationalize anything because it just comes off as
00:21:28
insensitive. And I've noticed that in media
00:21:31
on panels, whether it's Fox News and The Five or something like
00:21:35
that, like Greg Gutfeld went off on Jessica Tarlov.
00:21:38
And basically it seems like every time someone on the left
00:21:42
is trying to be like, well, you know, it's obviously horrible.
00:21:45
I didn't agree with him politically.
00:21:47
And then all of a sudden you get to that like, but and then as
00:21:51
soon as they say, but, and then all of a sudden like, whoa,
00:21:53
whoa, where's the butt going? Like, where are we going here?
00:21:56
And it ends up being some weird like rationalization.
00:22:00
Uh, well, but you know, I really started with Trump and it's
00:22:04
because Trump is so divisive and stuff like, that's why this
00:22:08
happened. It's like, no, no, you can't,
00:22:09
you can't rationalize it. So there's no way to rationalize
00:22:12
this. You know, Trump being divisive
00:22:15
is not an excuse for you to kill someone.
00:22:17
That's period, full stop. Like there's no way to try and
00:22:21
link this back to Trump and be like, well, it's Trump's
00:22:24
rhetoric and that's why Charlie Kirk got killed.
00:22:28
No, there's no causal link between the two of them.
00:22:33
So it's been kind of interesting to see that, that they can't
00:22:36
argue the, and I feel bad for any like pundit who's on cable
00:22:42
news right now, who's left-leaning, who's trying to
00:22:44
put their two cents in because no matter what, even if they're
00:22:47
good intention, they're trying to add their opinion.
00:22:50
It's just like, Nope, you're trying to rationalize it.
00:22:52
You can't rationalize the, you know, the, the murder of a, a
00:22:57
young man, father and husband and all that stuff.
00:23:00
You can't rationalize it. You know, basically the best
00:23:03
thing you can do is go, this is a horrible tragedy.
00:23:06
This man shouldn't have died and that's the end of it.
00:23:10
So, but someone who couldn't keep their mouth shut about all
00:23:15
this and had to make it political and try and
00:23:17
rationalize this was Jimmy Kimmel.
00:23:19
And soon after Stephen Colbert was cancelled.
00:23:25
Well, actually, not soon after it.
00:23:26
Wasn't he notified like months ago, Stephen Colbert that he was
00:23:28
being cancelled? News or?
00:23:32
What's? Yeah, and he got an Emmy in his
00:23:34
last year before he was cancelled.
00:23:36
So that was sort of a consolation prize for him.
00:23:39
It came out of nowhere that Jimmy Kimmel is been since his
00:23:44
show's been pulled indefinitely. So let's watch the clip now, the
00:23:49
news clip about it, and we'll discuss our thoughts on the
00:23:52
whole Jimmy Kimmel being pulled. We begin with breaking news.
00:23:56
ABC has pulled Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely after comments made
00:24:02
in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:24:04
KTLA. 'S Carlos Saucedo joins us live
00:24:06
in The Newsroom with the latest on the breaking story.
00:24:09
Carlos. Micah Share As you know, this
00:24:11
move is sending shockwaves across the entertainment
00:24:14
industry right here in Hollywood.
00:24:16
Late today, the ABC network announced it would be pulling
00:24:19
Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely following controversial comments
00:24:23
the late night talk show host made during his monologue Monday
00:24:26
night. We had some new lows.
00:24:28
Over the weekend with the Maggot gang desperately trying to
00:24:31
characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
00:24:34
anything other than one of them and everything they can to score
00:24:38
political points from it. Now, Kimmel had suggested that
00:24:42
Charlie Kirk's alleged killer may have magnetized.
00:24:45
The conservative commentator was killed last week in front of
00:24:48
hundreds during a college speaking event in Utah.
00:24:51
The fast moving developments come after the FCC threatened
00:24:54
action against ABC and after Ktla's parent company, Nexstar
00:24:59
Media Group also announced it would be pulling Kimmel from its
00:25:02
ABC affiliates. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr issued
00:25:06
the following warning on the Benny Show this morning,
00:25:09
indicating that AB CS broadcast license was at risk.
00:25:13
And what appears to be an action appears to be an action by Jimmy
00:25:18
Kimmel to play into that narrative that this was somehow
00:25:25
a maggot or Republican motivated person have a license granted by
00:25:30
us at the FCC and if that comes with it, an obligation to
00:25:34
operate in the public interest. But frankly, when you see stuff
00:25:37
like this, I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard
00:25:40
way. These companies can find ways to
00:25:43
change conduct, to take action, frankly on Kimmel or, you know,
00:25:48
there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.
00:25:53
Now the entire ABC network is saying the show is being pulled
00:25:56
for the foreseeable future and reaction is coming in from both
00:26:00
sides of the political aisle including the commander in chief
00:26:03
himself. President Trump, who has a long
00:26:05
standing feud with Kimmel and other late night hosts posted
00:26:09
the following on True Social saying great news for America.
00:26:12
The ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel show is canceled.
00:26:15
Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do
00:26:19
what had to be done. Trump goes on to say the host
00:26:22
over at NBC are next. Now, California Governor Gavin
00:26:26
Newsom also weighing in on the controversial move, saying in
00:26:29
part, quote, firing commentators, canceling shows.
00:26:33
These aren't coincidences. It's coordinated and dangerous.
00:26:37
The GOP does not believe in free speech.
00:26:39
They're censoring you in real time.
00:26:42
So far, we have not heard from Jimmy Kimmel himself.
00:26:45
We'll have much more on this developing story.
00:26:47
For now, we're live in The Newsroom.
00:26:49
Carlos Salcedo, KTLA 5 News. Carlos, thank you all.
00:26:53
Right. Like I said, kind of out of
00:26:57
nowhere I wasn't expecting, I got the tweet notification that
00:27:01
he was polled indefinitely. So I don't do you want me to go
00:27:08
first or do you want to go first?
00:27:09
I could make. One really quick comment, just
00:27:14
this isn't just Jimmy Kimmel, but he just said it.
00:27:17
So it reminded me there has been this thing of Democrats saying
00:27:24
it was one of your own, one of your own.
00:27:26
You guys, we are all part of humanity.
00:27:28
We're all American. We got to get this idea.
00:27:31
This is this is part of the the divisiveness.
00:27:33
We've got to get this idea that we're, you know, it's, it's US
00:27:36
versus them and it has been, but we have to stop doing that,
00:27:39
which goes back to the we have to have the conversations with
00:27:41
each other. We all live amongst each other.
00:27:43
We've got to learn to work this out.
00:27:45
It's not one of us, one of them. We're all a part of humanity.
00:27:49
We're all a part of the United States.
00:27:50
Let's start acting like it, OK? You may continue.
00:27:55
No, excellent point. Well, First off, I will say that
00:27:59
the crying and gnashing of teeth and the clutching of pearls
00:28:05
about free speech, I think it's overblown because First off, as
00:28:11
a private company, the 1st Amendment doesn't protect what
00:28:14
people think it does. Or people think that free speech
00:28:17
is just like golden rule that protects literally everything in
00:28:20
the world, where if you work somewhere and you say something,
00:28:25
you post something and they don't like what you're saying
00:28:27
and it reflects badly on the company, well, that company has
00:28:31
the right to terminate your employment.
00:28:34
Like they're not bound by the 1st Amendment to protect your
00:28:37
speech, especially in this kind of situation where you're a
00:28:41
public figure, a broadcaster, you have a show and you're
00:28:44
saying stuff that could get them in trouble, especially because
00:28:48
you're getting facts completely wrong about what this guy was
00:28:52
just because you're pushing a narrative.
00:28:54
So there's no protection as in the 1st Amendment that that just
00:28:58
doesn't, that doesn't exist in the private employer space.
00:29:01
So this whole idea of they're trying to stifle free speech,
00:29:04
No, you're not. You're not stifling free speech
00:29:07
because a private company said no, we're done with you.
00:29:10
That's it. We're pulling your show.
00:29:13
However, with that said, and I know I was just talking about
00:29:18
this whole rationalization thing, however, I will point out
00:29:22
my issue with this. There is a golden rule that I
00:29:27
live by when it comes to the government, and that is be weary
00:29:31
of the power you create in government because it is very
00:29:35
likely the next administration or your enemy will end up using
00:29:40
it against you. It's kind of like the Patriot
00:29:42
Act. Like the Patriot Act, we all
00:29:44
thought it was a great idea because we're all scared, you
00:29:46
know, out of our minds after 911.
00:29:48
We're like here, just take all of our civil liberties and you
00:29:50
can do whatever you want. Just don't let the terrorists
00:29:52
kill me. That ended up being used against
00:29:55
ton of Americans. So FISA courts, all that stuff.
00:29:58
It was used against Donald Trump, stuff like that.
00:30:01
When you expand the power of the government, it rarely ever
00:30:06
contracts back to its pre action size so that we're still not
00:30:12
back to pre Patriot Act size or we're not back to pre Patriot
00:30:16
Act civil liberties still with us still hanging around that
00:30:19
Patriot Act just called, you know, they just keep renewing
00:30:23
it. And the problem is, is you
00:30:26
expand this power and the next person who comes in is going to
00:30:30
use it. And my fear is that if you set
00:30:33
this precedent of the FCC can start threatening or dropping
00:30:37
these threats on media companies and say, well, we can do this
00:30:41
the easy way or we can do this the hard way because we have
00:30:44
these broadcast license. Who's to say forbid I'm gonna
00:30:49
knock on wood right here. This is AI think this is a wood
00:30:51
desk, if not some sort of plywood from China or something.
00:30:57
God forbid that Gavin Newsom gets in as the president and all
00:31:00
of a sudden his FCC guy starts going around saying, hey, Fox
00:31:04
News or Newsmax or whatever channel you want to say, I don't
00:31:08
like what you're saying. So we can do this the easy way.
00:31:11
We can do this the hard way and all of a sudden starts leaning
00:31:13
on these networks to cancel people or maybe take their show
00:31:17
off. I don't know.
00:31:19
I, I, I'm always worried about that.
00:31:22
And that might be one of my biggest critiques of the Trump
00:31:24
administration so far as he's taking kind of some steps where
00:31:26
I'm like, you expand this a little too far.
00:31:30
Someone's going to use this against the conservatives if
00:31:34
somebody else gets into power. That's always my biggest fear.
00:31:37
I don't feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel.
00:31:38
He's been sort of a, a, a kind of a political peddler for a
00:31:42
long time now. He's not funny.
00:31:44
I don't remember when late night shows had to be basically like
00:31:49
stump speeches every night about politics.
00:31:52
Why? They're lecturing us about
00:31:54
politics all the time. I miss the Jimmy Kimmel of the
00:31:56
Man show. Those were the days.
00:31:59
I don't feel bad for him. Private employer can fire do
00:32:01
whatever they want, but I just worry about the repercussions of
00:32:05
expanding the government to too big where it can be used against
00:32:08
use. What are your thoughts?
00:32:13
Yeah, I definitely agree with you on that.
00:32:16
I haven't watched Jimmy Kimble of years.
00:32:17
Late night TV used to be funny, used to be an escape from
00:32:20
politics, and then it became not funny at all about politics.
00:32:23
And so it was like, all right, I love politics, but this is my
00:32:27
thing. I'm going to go watch the
00:32:28
reality TV next Star, I'm assuming, which is the parent
00:32:34
company of Disney, ABC, etcetera.
00:32:37
I'm assuming that they had advertisers calling in saying
00:32:41
we're going to pull out and they probably had to make this
00:32:44
decision. But now he hasn't been fired.
00:32:47
He's been pulled indefinitely from the air.
00:32:48
And I honestly do wonder if after this all blows over and
00:32:52
the new cycle switches and we have something else that we're
00:32:55
all up in arms about, I do wonder if he'll just be back.
00:32:58
Like they'll just reinstate him, you know, come next spring,
00:33:01
summer or something like that. I don't know.
00:33:03
And I'm sure he's getting paid while he's on this indefinite
00:33:07
leave. Like you said, a private
00:33:11
company, they have a right to fire somebody if it does.
00:33:13
It's not up to their standards. I know that people are saying,
00:33:16
well, his ratings have been tanking.
00:33:17
I looked at his ratings since like 2018 and yes, they have
00:33:20
been dropping, but not like majorly.
00:33:23
It's been a very slow year by year and and maybe I don't know
00:33:27
what TV standards are, what ratings are for these shows.
00:33:30
So it's possible that he did tank low enough that they were
00:33:34
like, we may not renew the contract next year.
00:33:37
And maybe this wasn't easy out. I, you know, I have no inside
00:33:40
knowledge of that whatsoever. But I, I don't like this game
00:33:46
and, and I'm going to play it now.
00:33:49
And people have been playing it on me all week on social media.
00:33:52
I posted something about Charlie Kirk, you know, this is woken up
00:33:56
an army. And I quoted a Bible verse that
00:33:59
was very like these. We're not fighting with weapons
00:34:01
of this world. And I was commenting on the fact
00:34:04
that in the wake of his death, I saw, and I'm sure all of you saw
00:34:07
all of our social media people were like, I'm going back to
00:34:10
church or I need to find God. I need to get right with God.
00:34:13
And so I was posting a response to that like we're seeing kind
00:34:17
of a revival happen, if you will, of all these people who
00:34:19
want to go back to church or go to church for the first time.
00:34:23
So I posted about that and I have gotten so many negative
00:34:26
comments on that from people who clearly didn't read what I was
00:34:29
writing. And you know, they, they want us
00:34:33
cancelled and to shut up and everything.
00:34:35
And where were you with Melissa Hurtata?
00:34:38
Was that her last name? Did you post about her and her
00:34:41
husband and her dog? What about the children?
00:34:43
What about this? What about that?
00:34:45
And OK, not to go into all that, but for everyone that said that
00:34:51
Ron and McDaniel, the I think she was the chair one of the
00:34:55
RNC, was hired by NBC as a commentator last year and fired
00:34:59
four days later for her beliefs. So, I mean, were you OK with
00:35:06
that people? Not probably not this audience,
00:35:09
but as far as the audience that's, you know, oh, how dare
00:35:12
Trump do this. Well, that was into the Biden
00:35:14
administration. Like, was that OK with you then?
00:35:17
Yeah, Ninja 515-O brought up sort of the same stuff that
00:35:25
we've seen regarding COVID and social media bans and all that
00:35:29
stuff and the crackdowns. No, I'm not agreeing to Ninja's
00:35:34
point. I'm not agreeing that those were
00:35:37
OK. I'm not saying like, oh, that's
00:35:39
fine, we should. That was all bad, too.
00:35:42
Believe me, we were. I was doing shows, I was posting
00:35:46
on Instagram and I was seeing people get kicked off of
00:35:49
Instagram left and right over what they were talking about
00:35:52
during COVID. And COVID was a interesting time
00:35:55
for people who were in this space of like political
00:35:58
influencers and people were like, Oh my gosh, my account got
00:36:01
hacked or my account got taken down or something like that.
00:36:04
I'm not OK with that either. I'm not OK with big companies
00:36:07
banning and stuff like that, I think.
00:36:10
But there is sort of the marketplace of ideas where, you
00:36:15
know, Elon Musk buying Twitter was probably one of the most
00:36:18
monumental things to happen in our culture, probably changed
00:36:21
the course of the 2024 election because you had someone who
00:36:25
goes, hey, I believe that everyone should be able to say
00:36:28
what they want. And I, I don't really care like
00:36:30
about putting these restrictions and, and all this stuff.
00:36:33
And it changed the landscape because now you look at it's
00:36:35
like Instagram, Facebook, all of them, they're all kind of
00:36:39
falling in line where it's like, OK, now you can kind of say what
00:36:42
with say whatever you want. And you see stuff on Instagram
00:36:44
now that are like that. I you would have never seen four
00:36:48
or five years ago, especially during COVID, you would never
00:36:50
seen stuff like this. I'm not OK with any of it.
00:36:54
I'm not OK with any of it. I'm not OK with the government
00:36:57
under the bite administration leaning on social media
00:37:00
companies to say you need to ban people talking about critiquing
00:37:05
the vaccine and COVID restrictions and stuff like
00:37:07
that. And I'm not OK with the FCC
00:37:09
leaning on people either to say, OK, well, we don't like your
00:37:12
speech, so we may start revoking your license.
00:37:15
I'm anti big government. So when you, when you start from
00:37:20
a place like that, when you start from I'm anti big
00:37:23
government and giving the state more power, Well, it doesn't
00:37:27
matter if you're red or blue, whenever you get more power, if
00:37:30
you're Republican or Democrat, I don't like it.
00:37:32
I don't like the fact that politicians give themselves more
00:37:35
and more power. Also interesting, we have sort
00:37:39
of like a side conversation, people debating like who's going
00:37:42
to be a good presidential candidate for the Republicans in
00:37:45
2028. It's been kind of fascinating to
00:37:47
watch. People are debating whether it's
00:37:49
Rubio or Vance. So you guys can keep talking
00:37:52
about I'm kind of interested in listening to all your comments
00:37:55
in the chat box going back and forth about Rubio and who's
00:37:59
going to be a good presidential candidate.
00:38:02
All right, any other thoughts about Kimmel before we get on to
00:38:06
the main story about good old Gavin Newsom?
00:38:08
Which is why I'm wearing my my noodle shirt.
00:38:11
Gavin Newsom trying to I think he's I.
00:38:13
Always know thoughts. I always have lots of thoughts,
00:38:17
but but I know we're, we're talking about this longer than
00:38:20
we intended and it sounds like the comments will be interesting
00:38:22
to get to. So let's let's go to Newsome so
00:38:25
we can maybe get to some of the comments if we have time.
00:38:29
Sure yeah, keep those comments coming.
00:38:31
We'll get to them. I'm, I'm keeping an eye on.
00:38:33
So if you see me like looking off screen during this whole
00:38:35
live stream, it's not gonna be here though.
00:38:38
Yeah, I'm not. It's not like I'm like ignoring
00:38:39
Camille and I'm not looking. I'm just kind of like keeping an
00:38:41
eye on you guys. I got to press all the buttons
00:38:43
and stuff, Chucky. FIFO when I'm like looking at
00:38:46
things, looking up things, I'm here.
00:38:48
No, but everyone in thank you for being here in the chat.
00:38:51
We appreciate you. Oh, Ninja brought up a good
00:38:54
point, which I I forgot about this.
00:38:56
This is actually a great point. Pam Bondi should be fired for
00:38:59
talking about censoring hate speech.
00:39:01
Yeah, that was a big thing for me.
00:39:03
I saw that. Pam Bondi's to me has been sort
00:39:05
of a disappointment. The fact that she's like, I'm
00:39:08
going to start going after hate speech and all this.
00:39:11
And it's like now we're starting to get into what we what is hate
00:39:14
speech? So that kind of to find.
00:39:17
Hate speech to find a woman just.
00:39:20
Yeah, the Supreme Court has already said hate speech is
00:39:22
protected speech. Sorry.
00:39:25
Anyway. All right, let's get on to this
00:39:27
next topic. We have a couple of videos and
00:39:30
we'll we'll talk about Newsom and his his new initiative to
00:39:33
reach young men. So this will be the first one
00:39:36
that I pulled. We're.
00:39:38
Talking about common ground and this issue of essentially young
00:39:43
men being disregarded in society, which is something that
00:39:45
you connected with Charlie Kirk over.
00:39:47
And I wonder just the timing of this announcement and Kirk's
00:39:51
death, if, if there's any correlation and just how Kirk
00:39:54
might be inspiring you at all, if he.
00:39:56
Is no I. Will I appreciate it the
00:39:58
question I mean, I believe in civility.
00:39:59
I believe in open hand, not a close fist.
00:40:01
That's why I Charlie Kirk on my first podcast and anyone can go
00:40:05
and listen to that podcast. You did it in person.
00:40:08
We don't have a civil conversation on camera.
00:40:10
We had a civil conversation off camera that continued.
00:40:14
So just, you know, weeks ago where our Staffs were connecting
00:40:18
and engaging in a very civil way and I think we need more of
00:40:22
that, that said. You know, he'll stand his
00:40:25
ground. We stood our ground on things we
00:40:26
care deeply about and push back where we had, you know, pretty
00:40:31
strong disagreement. Do you think Newsom's son ever
00:40:33
got to meet Charlie Kirk? Remember, that was the the big
00:40:36
thing was. He's like he wanted to come here
00:40:41
today, he wanted a photo with you and you still was like, you
00:40:45
have to go to school then. I know his son are the OK.
00:40:56
I'm under the impression that did not happen and they released
00:40:59
photos of their kids, so I think if there was that photo I feel
00:41:03
like we would have seen it. Yeah, I my favorite line from
00:41:08
that. That was definitely a drop mic
00:41:09
moment. He goes, well, you know, he had
00:41:13
school, that's why he couldn't come and meet you today.
00:41:15
And then Charlie Kirk goes, you closed schools for two years,
00:41:17
what's one more day? And I was like, oh, that was a
00:41:21
great line by Charlie Kirk. Charlie.
00:41:23
'S quick. He was very quick.
00:41:24
He's. Very quick with those lines.
00:41:26
So it'd be a shame if Newsome, Newsome's kid, didn't meet
00:41:30
Charlie Kirk. So just an example of who
00:41:32
Charlie Kirk was reaching. He was reaching Newsome's son,
00:41:36
probably the next presidential nominee for the Democratic
00:41:38
Party. He was reaching and converting
00:41:42
Newsom's son so. He had approach and strategy and
00:41:47
issues. We have our approach, but I just
00:41:50
think at the end of the day, I set it inside a moment ago.
00:41:53
Divorce is not an option, period, full stop.
00:41:56
We've got to live together across our differences.
00:41:58
And there are a lot of differences in this state, this
00:42:00
nation for that matter, the world we're trying to build.
00:42:03
And the only way we're going to reconcile those things is by
00:42:06
listening to one another. And if you go to that podcast, I
00:42:10
hope the one thing that you'll find is 2 people willing to
00:42:14
listen to one another that are very strong points of view that
00:42:19
don't necessarily always cross pollinate.
00:42:21
But one point of view I think we did share was love of our
00:42:24
family, love of this country, deep, deep, deep love for our
00:42:29
children and hope for a better world.
00:42:32
And so that's, that's the spirit that I want to bring to the work
00:42:35
that we're doing today. That's the spirit which I think
00:42:40
mentorship and volunteerism, I think that's the spirit that
00:42:43
advances and it's a 'cause that that should unite us all.
00:42:47
Just a follow up. Wasn't it just like 2 weeks ago
00:42:51
Gavin Newsom was on his podcast or there was a clip of him.
00:42:53
I don't even know if he does anybody follow whether he
00:42:56
releases new episodes or not. And he was talking about like we
00:42:59
have to punch back on conservatives like with both
00:43:02
hands or something like that. So he's talking about like we
00:43:04
have to reach across the aisle. Also fun drinking game.
00:43:10
If you ever watch Gavin Newsom and do it, we haven't even gone
00:43:13
over a state of the state speech.
00:43:14
We'll do that on Tuesday. I think that may be a good thing
00:43:16
to talk about on Tuesday. If you did a drinking game and
00:43:21
you listed off the things that he his, his cliches that he
00:43:25
always says we'd be about two or three shots in already.
00:43:28
And this has only been a minute and 55 seconds where he says,
00:43:32
well, we have to do this with an open hand, not a closed fist.
00:43:34
He says that a lot period, full stop.
00:43:37
That's another thing he says all the time.
00:43:40
So it's in real time. In real time.
00:43:42
It's interesting. He always he's putting this in
00:43:45
we're. Fighting fire with fire.
00:43:46
This is the only way to punch back against the Trump
00:43:49
administration with. Both fists we have to be
00:43:51
punching back at the Trump administration.
00:43:53
So promoting violence. Clearly this whole episode we
00:43:57
just we've been reiterating that we agree.
00:44:00
We've got to talk and listen. And so we agree with what he
00:44:02
said. But like you're saying that's he
00:44:05
says one thing says the other. But like, I'm just watching him
00:44:08
do do this. We could you know, we've got to
00:44:11
listen to each other like, yeah, we do.
00:44:13
But we know that you don't agree with that because immediately
00:44:15
after this, you probably tweeted about how much you hate the
00:44:18
Republicans and Trump. Sorry, I'll stop doing his weird
00:44:21
dance. Someone in the chat said that
00:44:23
Newsome actually blocked them on X, Kinsley says.
00:44:25
I had to show my friends who couldn't believe it.
00:44:27
Well done Kinsley. I I'm blocked by several.
00:44:31
That's impressive. Wow.
00:44:33
I've only been the biggest person I think I've been blocked
00:44:35
by is Lorena Gonzalez and Carl Demaio.
00:44:38
Carl Demaio blocked Carl Demaio. Carl Demaio.
00:44:40
Lorena Gonzalez blocked me all as well on X, so there's the
00:44:43
only two. I never got blocked by Newsom
00:44:45
though, so that's well done Kinsley.
00:44:46
I'm I'm impressed. I mean.
00:44:49
Will his assassination change the way that you approach any
00:44:53
campaigns? I know you're not campaigning
00:44:54
here, but any campaign in the future of the Prop 50, I know
00:44:57
change the F around and find out title with the, you know, the
00:45:02
event that you're going to have last week.
00:45:03
Well, I, I, I don't know because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the same guy
00:45:09
that walked on the tarmac with, with Donald Trump, the same guy
00:45:13
that would pick up his phone call, the same person that sat
00:45:18
down, not just Charlie Kirk was T Bannon with the guy who
00:45:23
created this space, you know, language, borders and culture.
00:45:25
Michael Savage back in the 90s, you know, was the dominant voice
00:45:29
on talk radio person that sat down with Newt Gingrich, who?
00:45:32
Was one of the leaders of my recall.
00:45:35
I'm that same person. So if just to give you a little
00:45:41
idea of what he's actually, I like that clip because of Ashley
00:45:44
Zavala was kind of pointing out like, hey, isn't it kind of
00:45:48
convenient that the timing of this is like Charlie Kirk just
00:45:51
passed away last week and now you're launching initiative to
00:45:54
reach young man, which was something that Charlie Kirk did
00:45:57
very well. Is the timing interest.
00:46:00
She she put it more eloquently than I put it.
00:46:04
She's basically like, well, were you inspired by Charlie Kirk?
00:46:09
I think it's kind of him just jumping on the political moment,
00:46:12
but basically this is this is what I'm reading from Ed Source.
00:46:17
It says Gavin Newsom is calling on 10 young men to serve as
00:46:20
mentors, coaches and tutors through a new campaign called
00:46:23
the California Men's Service Challenge.
00:46:26
The statewide initiative announced on Tuesday is the
00:46:28
latest in executive order directing agencies to address
00:46:31
mental health in boys and young men.
00:46:34
Quote, we have an epidemic of loneliness and so much of that
00:46:36
is manifesting and metastasizing online, very profound and
00:46:39
consequential ways. And last week only underscored
00:46:42
that further, said Newsom at Tuesday.
00:46:44
On Tuesday, referencing the killing of conservative activist
00:46:46
Charlie Kirk at a Utah university campus in California,
00:46:49
boys and men aged 15 to 44 die by suicide three to four times
00:46:53
the rate of women, often by firearms.
00:46:55
Almost half of female homicide victims are also killed by a
00:46:58
current or former intimate male partner.
00:47:03
So this is sort of, I guess, him using the state to reach out to
00:47:07
young men. I will say this.
00:47:10
There is a huge difference between creating a state
00:47:13
initiative that if it's anything like any other initiative that
00:47:18
Gavin Newsom starts, he does a nice little press conference and
00:47:20
then we forget all about it. Excuse me and what Charlie Kirk
00:47:26
did, which was organically like talking to young men.
00:47:31
I'm not sure how successful this will be.
00:47:34
I, I think the other thing that someone like Newsome has to kind
00:47:38
of step back and look at, and this is probably why Democrats
00:47:42
are losing young men by the droves in voters in voter sport
00:47:47
is basically what the Democratic Party has been doing for, I
00:47:52
don't know, the better part of like 2 decades now, which is
00:47:56
blaming young men for all of the ills of society.
00:47:59
And at a certain point, you can't keep blaming men for
00:48:03
everything that's wrong with the world and say men should sit
00:48:06
down and shut up and don't. You don't have an opinion as a
00:48:09
man. You know that it's always, well,
00:48:12
you already had your time. You can't comment on this.
00:48:16
You're a CIS white male. So sit down, shut up.
00:48:19
You don't get an opinion on this.
00:48:21
You're a CIS male. Like even just being a CIS male,
00:48:24
a straight male is a problem, is problematic in the Democratic
00:48:28
Party now. And he's trying to reverse that.
00:48:32
But it's going to be hard to reverse 20 years of being talked
00:48:36
down to for so, so long. And the reason young men started
00:48:40
to flock to people like Charlie Kirk and sadly, other
00:48:44
influencers like Nick Fuentes is because they were so tired of
00:48:48
turning to these influencers on the left who were telling them
00:48:53
you are the bane of existence. You are the reason society
00:48:55
sucks. Like, that's basically what
00:48:58
they're saying. You are the reason that society
00:49:00
sucks. And it's all your fault.
00:49:02
And yeah, we're going to make you pay for this.
00:49:05
And you should just grin and bear it and just just deal with
00:49:08
it because you've had your time. So sit down and shut up.
00:49:12
And now they're trying to reverse it.
00:49:14
And it's it's, it's not going to work.
00:49:16
I think it it, you can't undo what you've done for 20 years in
00:49:20
just one state initiative. What are your thoughts?
00:49:25
Well, you know, I agree with this because I sent you a series
00:49:29
of voice texts last week of similar thoughts.
00:49:34
Yes. So I think it's been going on a
00:49:36
little bit longer than that and even goes back to this.
00:49:39
OK, this is not me making an anti public school statement
00:49:41
whatsoever, I swear. But boys has they do learn
00:49:48
slower than girls like their abilities with reading and
00:49:51
writing develop slower than girls.
00:49:54
That's just that's a fact. And that was one of the reasons
00:49:58
why I chose to homeschool way back when was because I had a
00:50:02
son and I just you kind of put them in this environment where
00:50:05
then they're held back because they weren't necessarily on
00:50:08
track with their peers, but they're not necessarily
00:50:12
developed. And and so then it's like
00:50:14
they're shamed because they were held back a grade or they needed
00:50:16
to do summer school. And there's this whole shame in
00:50:19
like not learning as fast as there were one else when and
00:50:23
developmentally their brain was, it's literally not there.
00:50:27
And, and now we have these very liberal women who are married to
00:50:33
men and do have sons. And, and I'm telling you, I'm
00:50:36
seeing this in people. I know that they're posting on
00:50:39
social media, which all of our kids are growing up in the age
00:50:41
of social media and have access to it.
00:50:43
They have access to the Internet, whether or not you
00:50:45
give it to them, they do. So they have a friend, some have
00:50:47
access to your phone, your home computer, whatever they've
00:50:51
they're on the Internet and they're seeing their own moms
00:50:54
posting. I would choose the bear over the
00:50:56
man. I never trust a man.
00:50:57
I always trust the women Hashtag me too.
00:51:00
All this, you know, the white males are the problem.
00:51:03
And like, Can you imagine reading that?
00:51:05
And you're like 11-12, thirteen years old and you're seeing that
00:51:08
your mom is like, I hate men. And you're like, but you're
00:51:11
married to my dad and I'm, I'm a boy.
00:51:14
And like, we're wondering why these kids grow up hating
00:51:16
themselves, doubting themselves, hating other men, insecure.
00:51:20
And it's just like, yes, we have let this out of the bag.
00:51:24
I don't think that one executive order is going to put it all
00:51:28
back. And on this note, Newsome does
00:51:31
have a habit of copycatting. You know, the, for several years
00:51:36
now we've seen the Republicans in California trying to get a
00:51:39
pause on the gas tax, trying to suspend it or whatever.
00:51:42
And he's like, no, no, no. And then all of a sudden he's
00:51:44
like 2022, you know, oh, I'm going to suspend this 3 cent gas
00:51:47
tax and give everyone $400.00 credit.
00:51:50
And it's like, this is my idea. And everyone's like, we've been
00:51:52
writing legislation for that for years.
00:51:54
And you have been vetoing it or, you know, getting all your, your
00:51:57
teams to vote against it. And then the whole homeless
00:52:00
thing. And now suddenly he's like,
00:52:01
everyone needs to clean up the homeless camps, this obviously
00:52:05
the Charlie Kirk thing. And then there was, what was it?
00:52:09
You know, he was like, Trump has no right to send in the National
00:52:13
Guard. We're just fine.
00:52:14
And then all of a sudden, he's bringing in, like, who?
00:52:17
Who did he bring in? Because everything was out of
00:52:20
control. But it's like Trump was wrong.
00:52:22
Yeah. Like, like, wait, we need extra
00:52:24
CHP. Like, I swear you guys knew some
00:52:27
never has an original idea. He all of his executive orders
00:52:31
and his new ideas are copycats, and they're as useful as putting
00:52:36
a Ukraine flag in your profile. And that's just what he does.
00:52:40
He's like, he has no, no thoughts and opinions of his
00:52:43
own. It's just like, what is what is
00:52:45
the big thing? How can I make this what I did?
00:52:48
How can I make this about me? As useful as putting a Ukraine
00:52:52
flag in your bio? I like that.
00:52:53
I'm going to use that more, more often.
00:52:56
Yeah. Everything seems reactionary
00:52:58
with him. It kind of is like, well,
00:52:59
whatever the political moment is, he always just kind of jumps
00:53:02
on that. I'm not conceding that these
00:53:07
points are correct about suicide among young men.
00:53:12
Maybe, maybe it is, but I could. I'm, I'm just saying like if
00:53:17
you're a young man and you grow up in a world like California,
00:53:22
where the constant barrage from, from professors, from teachers,
00:53:28
from people around you is that you are utterly useless.
00:53:33
And not only are you utterly useless, you are actually, you
00:53:37
are actually the problem. You're the reason why the rest
00:53:40
of us can't live in a utopia that we keep, you know,
00:53:43
promising people. And I mean, if you're a young
00:53:47
man, you're impressionable. Gosh, I can't imagine why
00:53:51
they're committing suicide. Because if you make people feel
00:53:55
worthless, like, and they're not worth it.
00:53:56
And they're also a bane on our our existence.
00:54:00
That's a problem. And that's you can't keep
00:54:02
talking down to people like that.
00:54:05
Now you had put together a great video, great complication that
00:54:09
we're going to watch about whether Newsom believes.
00:54:13
And to your point about Newsome going with the wind, whether
00:54:17
it's because we need to get men into college or men needed
00:54:21
college degree or they don't need a college degree and how
00:54:24
he's flip-flopped on that. So we're going to take a quick
00:54:26
look at this video created by our own Camille.
00:54:33
Billion dollar. It was commitment for Wellness,
00:54:36
for mental health, a $4 billion commitment for universal
00:54:41
screening and access to real treatment based upon need for
00:54:46
every child zero to 25 in the state of California.
00:54:51
The most comprehensive transformational youth
00:54:55
behavioral health commitment this state has ever made.
00:54:59
We're putting $2 billion up to create these accounts and create
00:55:04
the opportunity for families to focus on financial literacy,
00:55:08
focus on developing assets, and focusing on getting their kids
00:55:12
to have a college going mindset or a trade school mindset.
00:55:17
It's about lifelong learning. We're not going to moralize, but
00:55:20
we do recognize the world we're entering and the world we're
00:55:23
living in, and our children are going to need more beyond the K
00:55:26
through 12 or even TK through 12.
00:55:30
Experience commitment to folks without college degrees,
00:55:35
including by the way, and you may be wondering, some folks
00:55:39
have come to me and say, but why isn't California joined the
00:55:41
effort of other states to say you can get a state job without
00:55:43
having to have a a degree from an institution of higher
00:55:47
learning? I said, well, we don't have to
00:55:48
join them. They joined us.
00:55:51
We've been doing that for decades.
00:55:53
Over well over half the job classifications in the state of
00:55:56
California don't require a bachelor degree.
00:55:58
In fact, just in the last few years, we've scrubbed 170
00:56:02
additional job classifications and we've scrubbed them or we
00:56:06
scrubbed off the requirement for a degree from an institution of
00:56:12
higher learning in order to create more pathways and
00:56:14
opportunities for folks across the spectrum.
00:56:17
And what was important about that effort?
00:56:19
It wasn't just one off, it was a framework again organizing a
00:56:23
need to focus, yes, on college, but also we needed to focus on
00:56:28
career. And so we cram created a
00:56:30
framework that we utilized from the K through 16 collaborative
00:56:34
to map a similar map that was adopted for a jobs first
00:56:38
initiative. And we provided under the
00:56:41
similar framework $5 for each of the 13 regions
00:56:47
throughout the state of California to develop an
00:56:49
economic and workforce. More on that in a second
00:56:52
development strategy, $5 not for, as was stated earlier,
00:56:58
another plan, but a framework to practically apply and implement
00:57:05
a lot of the ideals represented within our diverse regions
00:57:09
around the state. We talk about dropout rates,
00:57:12
deaths of despair, addiction, abuse, discipline.
00:57:17
You look at graduation rates at the UC and CSU, Adam and.
00:57:22
It's increasingly now the minority is a young man
00:57:26
graduating women, much higher levels of achievement across the
00:57:31
spectrum, so this is a real issue.
00:57:35
So a little bit of flip flopping back and forth, I would say some
00:57:42
young men can be successful with a college career or do not
00:57:45
successful with a college career.
00:57:47
Which is it? I mean, you can choose either
00:57:49
one. I think you're free to choose
00:57:51
either one. But it seems like he's kind of
00:57:53
gone back and forth that we need to get young men into college.
00:57:56
And then also we don't need to get young men into college.
00:57:58
They can just get these great trade jobs by going to trade
00:58:01
school. But also we need to get men into
00:58:04
college because they're not graduating as much as women are.
00:58:10
So it's a little, it is a little dizzying.
00:58:12
And someone said in the comments that you they get almost get a
00:58:15
little dizzy just watching all his hand motions.
00:58:18
Yeah, right. And it is to your point again,
00:58:21
about how it it's just whatever that that whatever is the
00:58:26
popular thing at that point. That's what Gavin Newsom's
00:58:28
pushing. That last clip was from this
00:58:31
year. And that was the announcement of
00:58:35
him going out be to red counties and parts of those of California
00:58:40
that flipped for Donald Trump in the 2024 election because he was
00:58:43
trying to go out and figure out, well, why did you go vote for
00:58:46
Trump? Why did you people in in these
00:58:48
red counties go vote for Trump? I don't know.
00:58:49
Probably because you govern the state as if the only people that
00:58:53
matter in this state are any of those people in the Bay Area, in
00:58:56
LA. And the people in the red
00:58:58
counties feel like they're completely forgotten and maybe
00:59:01
that's why they voted for Trump. I don't know.
00:59:03
I still haven't heard what happened with that jobs program.
00:59:07
I doubt anything's happened with that jobs program.
00:59:09
I think we weren't holding our breath as to him releasing
00:59:12
anything about that jobs program.
00:59:15
But it is just more of him kind of pontificating.
00:59:18
And I can imagine two months from now, this initiative is
00:59:24
you're not going to really see anything regarding this
00:59:26
initiative. This is like his big press
00:59:28
conference. He got a bunch of high school
00:59:30
men to show up and stand behind him.
00:59:33
And you know, it's, it's always just for the publicity.
00:59:38
It's never really for any sort of real action.
00:59:44
What do you think? Well, yeah, that first of that
00:59:48
video right now, we just watched the 2021 when he talks about the
00:59:51
mental health of the kids, like 16 to 25 or whatever it was.
00:59:56
But and now this new initiative is for men 18 to 24 or something
01:00:01
like that. And so it's like, well, they
01:00:03
were grouped into that first one.
01:00:04
What happened to that? And of course, I'm not against
01:00:08
mental health help, but I don't trust the government with
01:00:10
anything anyway. Like you create a problem and
01:00:12
then you think you're going to fix the problem, but only if we
01:00:15
throw a bunch of money at it. But but it yeah, four years ago
01:00:19
there was a program. So where's the results from
01:00:21
that? What?
01:00:22
What happened to them? Your your guess is as good as
01:00:27
mine. What happened to any of those
01:00:29
those programs? They made you right.
01:00:32
Sorry. It is, you know, I always look
01:00:35
at this stuff and go, boy, this is going to make, you know,
01:00:39
great footage for his presidential campaign, whether
01:00:41
it's him like cleaning up the streets or him in front of these
01:00:46
pressors and all these backdrops and all this.
01:00:49
It, it looks great for a big presidential campaign, you know,
01:00:52
in four years. But the problem is you have to
01:00:56
look under the surface and realize none of this ever gets
01:01:00
done. And it's it's a lot of stuff
01:01:02
that he says that never gets done.
01:01:05
So I'm looking at some of the sort of the comments Someone
01:01:09
said he just ninja says he wants to pad his resume for the
01:01:12
presidency. Yep, that's sort of what I just
01:01:15
said, which is he's only doing this for the presidency.
01:01:19
It's a lot. When Newsom said he will sue
01:01:21
Doge if they try to look into where the 24 billion federal
01:01:24
dollars for homelessness went, that was a disappointment that
01:01:28
we never got to the bottom of Doge and like where where all
01:01:31
that money went. I'm looking through some more
01:01:36
comments if you have any more, if you have any thoughts while
01:01:38
I'm looking through final thoughts about Gavin Newsom and
01:01:42
his new Young Man initiative. Just parent your children.
01:01:51
Love your children. Talk to them.
01:01:53
Teach them how to have conversations that you know we
01:01:56
can be kind and respectful with while disagreeing.
01:01:59
We don't have to accept everything others say, but we
01:02:03
can still listen to them. Someone said as a Mexican I so
01:02:09
hate his wife pandering to Latinos with her Spanish
01:02:12
messages. I think we had a video a while
01:02:17
back where we we played her trying to speak Spanish and it
01:02:20
was like, it was like the, I'm trying to, I'll say this
01:02:24
delicately. It's like your typical white
01:02:29
sorority girl showing up at a Mexican restaurant like on the
01:02:33
border and trying to order in Spanish because she took like
01:02:36
one year of Spanish in high school.
01:02:38
That's how it sounded like. It just sounded so bad, like she
01:02:42
had no accent. Let's see some other comments
01:02:47
before we finish up for the day. Do any other comments for
01:02:54
people? You people are blowing up the
01:02:56
chat, which I really appreciate. We really appreciate when you
01:02:59
guys get so active in the chat. I've been kind of like it's been
01:03:03
tough because I'm watching you guys converse in the chat and
01:03:07
like you guys are having full blown conversations in the chat,
01:03:11
which is really great to see. So I'm trying to keep up with it
01:03:14
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01:03:20
Today was Thursday which was a different thing just because we
01:03:23
were travelling. But someone said asked about
01:03:26
whether we've seen the ad about Prop 50 with them, which they
01:03:29
said was complete propaganda. Any other comments?
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I think the harbour seal that keeps crap crap before.
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We come in. Sorry, go ahead.
01:03:44
Brett says, I think the harbour seal that keeps crapping on my
01:03:47
dock is a better role model than Gavin Newsom at this point.
01:03:51
Wow, you that's that's powerful language coming from Brett.
01:03:55
All right, I think that's basically all the comments that
01:04:00
I wanted to to read off anyway. Any other final thoughts about
01:04:07
anything we talked about Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel or this new
01:04:11
initiative? No, I'm good.
01:04:18
OK, well, thank you to everyone for tuning in.
01:04:22
Obviously all those people who tuned in live for the chat.
01:04:28
Oh, thank you. So I'm gonna say Brett said the
01:04:30
thing I appreciate about you and Camille is that you are in
01:04:33
California and you're seeing this train wreck with the rest
01:04:36
of us. Yeah.
01:04:37
I mean, that's why we started this show is because I love
01:04:41
California. I don't want to move and I want
01:04:45
to help do whatever I can to, you know, turn this state
01:04:49
around. So that's why we created this
01:04:51
platform in this podcast is because we don't want to go
01:04:53
anywhere. We're not going anywhere.
01:04:54
So hopefully we give you a nice little weekly respis from all
01:05:00
the craziness. So we appreciate.
01:05:03
Your mind about the crazy? Yeah, we're like, hey, if you
01:05:07
miss this crazy, well, we're here to tell you about it.
01:05:10
We know you don't want to hear about all the crazy, but there
01:05:14
is plenty of crazy we need to talk about.
01:05:16
All right, With that said, we'll be back on our normal time next
01:05:20
week. On Tuesday, maybe we'll hit that
01:05:22
state of the state beach. We'll get more Gavin Newsom and
01:05:25
more hand gestures. We won't do the whole state of
01:05:28
the state. We'll probably just pull some
01:05:29
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01:06:21
In your opinion, do you think the state is heading for
01:06:23
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01:06:27
legislative analysts just came out that we're going to be like
01:06:31
for the next three to four years, we're going to be already
01:06:34
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01:06:38
So that's not good. We'll we'll talk about that.
01:06:41
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