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On this episode, we discuss Gavin Newsom going to China, why he went, and what he accomplished. We also discuss how this is just more of Newsom soft campaigning for President.
This episode was recorded on 11.1.23
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[00:00:32] Phil.
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[00:00:36] Camille.
[00:00:37] How are you doing tonight Camille?
[00:00:40] I would normally say fine but we have to talk about Newsom again.
[00:00:46] So I don't know.
[00:00:48] Yeah, this is your favorite when we get to talk about Newsom.
[00:00:51] Absolutely favorite.
[00:00:53] Even better you get to watch a whole interview.
[00:00:57] Yeah, which I already watched but I'm good.
[00:01:03] I'm much better than I was last week.
[00:01:05] I'm still kind of recovering.
[00:01:07] I got a little bit of a cough so I apologize if I don't hit the mute button fast enough
[00:01:11] to mute myself during coughing.
[00:01:14] A lot better than last week.
[00:01:16] Thanks to John Dillon who was on for just absolutely carrying the episode last week because
[00:01:23] I was just I was barely making it through and I was like dear God, just let me get through
[00:01:29] this hour.
[00:01:30] I was watching the hour tick by minute by minute.
[00:01:33] But we made it.
[00:01:37] Here we are.
[00:01:38] It was one of those episodes did it for the fans because I was away for a couple
[00:01:44] weeks.
[00:01:46] I was away in Europe so if that's where people are wondering where I was.
[00:01:51] I don't humble brag.
[00:01:52] A humble brag.
[00:01:53] I don't like to tell people where I am before I'd rather tell people afterwards but the
[00:02:00] one thing is just kind of getting off topic.
[00:02:05] The one thing I noticed in Europe now I was in Spain.
[00:02:08] The one thing we noticed, no masks.
[00:02:14] No masks anywhere.
[00:02:15] Like people were just not wearing masks in Europe which is surprising because you think the
[00:02:20] whole Europe like they locked down.
[00:02:21] They did everything like you would think like they were a mask crazy over there.
[00:02:25] I see more masks here in Southern California than I do than we did over in Spain.
[00:02:32] So that's just interesting to me that there wasn't that many masks.
[00:02:36] Also I don't want to take a victory lap yet.
[00:02:39] We did have a full episode on whether Alex Jones was going to be right or not.
[00:02:45] Flu all the way to Europe, no mask requirement, no vaccine passport, nobody checked our papers
[00:02:51] or anything like that.
[00:02:52] TSA had nothing to do with any of that.
[00:02:56] So so far I haven't seen the whole TSA mandates and stuff like that come back.
[00:03:04] So there was no requirement for you.
[00:03:07] You didn't have to have a negative COVID test to fly back.
[00:03:12] No, nothing that nobody asked me about COVID our entire trip so yeah I like I said I don't
[00:03:21] want to take a victory lap yet but this might be one of those cases where people you know
[00:03:26] rage farmed and got all their clicks and likes and stuff on social media by sharing Alex
[00:03:31] Jones.
[00:03:32] And you know three or four months on people will forget all about it and be like what no
[00:03:39] we never we never said that was going to happen in three to four months.
[00:03:43] I have screenshots people know just kidding.
[00:03:46] Yeah, if there's anyone who keeps receipts it's Camille so for all those people who are
[00:03:50] like we never said Alex Jones said that we're going to go back to lockdowns in three to
[00:03:55] four months.
[00:03:56] Well we got receipts.
[00:03:59] All right, but that's not the point of tonight's episode is to talk about Europe and lockdowns
[00:04:03] and COVID stuff.
[00:04:05] Instead we're going to talk about the country that started COVID and Mr. Newsom going
[00:04:11] to we're still on YouTube yeah we're still live on YouTube and he decided he was going
[00:04:23] to go over to China just out of the blue.
[00:04:25] I don't yeah, it just felt kind of out of the blue like all of a sudden he was over in
[00:04:29] China like there was no announcement that he was going over to China that this was something
[00:04:35] in the works like I think he announced when he was going over to Israel because you know
[00:04:40] people are dying and and this horrible warfare going on so the first thing Gavin Newsom
[00:04:44] thinks is this is a great opportunity for me to go over and get some photo ops and look
[00:04:50] like a president and now he's going over to China.
[00:04:54] Yeah, there's anything that Israel needs right now it's Gavin Newsom.
[00:04:58] Right yeah and his leadership and his hair gel so yeah never to miss an opportunity for
[00:05:08] presidential photo ops I mean I can see all of this is going to be in like a presidential
[00:05:15] ad in the future whether it's next year in 2028 I can imagine a lot of this is going
[00:05:20] to be like stock footage for him like Gavin Newsom leading the way you know leading the
[00:05:27] way together whatever is campaign slogan is going to be him sitting with Gigi paying and
[00:05:33] going to Israel and doing all these trips and then falling on that kid playing basketball
[00:05:38] hopefully that's in this campaign ad as well.
[00:05:41] But this is all I mean this is all part of his soft campaign to run for president like
[00:05:46] this has nothing to do with California he's trying to pretend it has a lot to do with
[00:05:49] California but it's it's absolutely 100% a soft campaign to run for president what do
[00:05:55] you think?
[00:05:56] Well yes I agree.
[00:05:59] I mean I think we're pretty much all on a grigands with this even even the Democrats are
[00:06:03] like yeah he's going to run for president even if it's not now it's next time and so
[00:06:09] yes are you frozen?
[00:06:12] No I'm still there.
[00:06:16] Okay so I have like an initial thought you didn't ask me my initial thoughts but I'm going
[00:06:22] to share one and I only just thought of this this morning so I'm a lot to change my mind
[00:06:26] on this but I until today okay so I'm not a climate change denier climate change happens
[00:06:36] but I don't believe climate change in the sense of like what people like you know it was
[00:06:41] global warming and then it's global cool like the climate is changing certainly like I
[00:06:45] don't think that most people are going to dispute that at least like most people the
[00:06:48] brain but of course I think you and I both believe that like what people and cows are not
[00:06:52] causing this this climate change that's you know so called and so I until today believed
[00:07:01] that there were these politicians that truly did believe that the climate is changing
[00:07:06] and that it's people's fault and also it struck me they're just the these politicians cannot
[00:07:14] fix the issues don't want to fix the issues I don't know what it is that are actually
[00:07:18] back at home that they need to be working on and fixing and what they were elected to do
[00:07:23] and so climate change is just one big distraction and I'm sorry because I don't like to be
[00:07:27] that person that says I was just a distraction what are they distracting us from but as
[00:07:31] of this morning I'm like no climate change is literally it's it it is their thing it is like
[00:07:36] they want to go beyond in history as being like they fought for climate change mean while
[00:07:41] I won't even start on all the issues that are going on here I mean we've lived with
[00:07:45] them a million times and I'm sure we'll get to them throughout the episodes I won't go there
[00:07:48] but it's like Gavin took off the China to like for because this state is like an absolute
[00:07:56] oblique myself whole but like
[00:08:00] there's so and Gavin is doing nothing to fix up and so why not be like I am in a fight climate change with China and
[00:08:07] wave
[00:08:10] a country that produces more carbon than like we could ever hope to reduce our carbon footprint
[00:08:17] like it doesn't matter what we do
[00:08:20] it sent you an article that they're like ranked 25th in the world for pollution
[00:08:27] yeah well climate change along with you know the next big scary thing is has always been
[00:08:35] you're right it's always the big it's the big crusade it's the big political crusade
[00:08:41] that politicians latch on to because it gets people emotional gets people fired up and it gets
[00:08:48] people to kind of hand over power and their rights to the government to just kind of continue running
[00:08:54] with their their agendas and to strip you of your rights and all that I mean it was for a while
[00:09:02] it was terrorism then it's climate change then it's COVID now we're back to climate change so
[00:09:09] it's always there's always this big overarching like crisis that politicians have to solve
[00:09:16] um and it requires you giving up a lot of your rights and obviously your money in taxes
[00:09:22] and stuff like that but climate change will is always there it's always their go-to it's always
[00:09:26] their fallback it's there it's the number one thing that they always do um and it's just this fuzzy
[00:09:34] kind of like well what is climate change how are we defining climate change like I you know
[00:09:41] I think we're both on the same page like you said uh the climate does change that's statistically
[00:09:48] provable they can show like the climate has changed throughout thousands and thousands of years
[00:09:54] the question is how much has man contributed to the climate changing is a whole different story
[00:10:00] and there's a lot of debating uh points of view on that and that's where we're going so I think it's
[00:10:06] this fuzzy science that politicians like to use to scare people into giving them more power and
[00:10:12] and obviously more money um and the fact that he's going over to China to kind of try and work on
[00:10:19] climate change is odd because they're one of the worst polluters in the entire world um but we can
[00:10:27] get into it and start kind of delving into it then we'll kind of finish and round off the episode
[00:10:32] with his interview with Alex Michelson they did not bring any professional equipment I can tell
[00:10:40] to record that it looked like they kind of recorded it there you are I keep freezing on you
[00:10:46] yeah my video looks just fine so I don't know who's ended is okay it might be your house with everybody
[00:10:56] streaming or playing multi-player games or whatever um okay so uh he released the press release after
[00:11:06] he just got back um the governor's is what governor Newsom's trip to China accomplished
[00:11:14] and this was sent out Monday uh what you need to know governor Newsom's trip to China was about
[00:11:20] delivering real climate action and creating opportunities for future collaboration and cooperation
[00:11:26] so there you go it's the uh climate change and collaboration
[00:11:32] uh according to Gavin Newsom the governor's meetings with Chinese leadership resulted in it
[00:11:36] first of its kind declaration by China and California to cooperate on sub-national climate action
[00:11:43] again no that's what I'm waiting for i've been waiting for more China action to work with California
[00:11:52] excuse me on this trip California signed five memorandum of understanding with China's
[00:12:00] national development and reform commission the provinces of Guadang and Jiangsu I'm sorry if
[00:12:07] I completely butchered those immunist palies of Beijing and Shanghai uh just so everyone's clear a
[00:12:14] memorandum of understanding has literally literally no binding legal effect on anybody um it is
[00:12:24] literally memorializing that you agree on something or that maybe you like something but it doesn't mean
[00:12:32] that California and China are in some like private treaties um only the president and the senate
[00:12:39] have the ability to make those treaties so they mean nothing so China could sign all the memorandums
[00:12:45] of understanding that they want it doesn't mean they're actually going to do anything about it just
[00:12:48] means they have entered this whatever memorandum of understanding uh over the next two months
[00:12:56] China uh over the next two months leadership from carb in the California Energy Commission plan to
[00:13:01] attend the world new energy vehicle conference in China and California officials plan to engage
[00:13:07] Chinese counterparts at APEC in San Francisco and COP28 in Dubai so great uh more bureaucrats are
[00:13:15] going to fly around the world and get international trips on California taxpayer times so good for us
[00:13:23] that we are funding international travel and that we're going to fund and send a whole bunch of
[00:13:27] bureaucrats over to China and talk about the climate uh so are they going there are they walking
[00:13:33] you know like how are they going to make sure that they don't pollute the world uh well they will take
[00:13:41] I'm assure a jet plane that burns off fuel in carbon but when you do that when you fly a jet plane
[00:13:50] in the name of climate change it negates itself it's like unicorns it's just it's magic
[00:13:57] that carbon doesn't exist so like when all the celebrities and everybody show up to those
[00:14:02] conferences and they talk about climate change and global warming and their private jets
[00:14:07] that carbon just it's neutralized because they're doing a good thing it's like karma
[00:14:12] so it's like eating while walking on the treadmill yeah you're burning calories while taking
[00:14:18] in calories exactly okay so I would uh on a theory note like to clear something up real quick
[00:14:24] because I think I'd sent you well you and I actually texted about it I said whose paint art
[00:14:28] was paying for this trip uh that gap went on to China and allegedly there's like a non-profit
[00:14:35] that was founded specifically to ease California taxpayers from having to pay these things
[00:14:41] and they uh the California now I haven't pulled up somewhere I think hold on I don't want to say
[00:14:48] incorrect name so it is the California State Protocol Foundation and I've only somewhat tracked
[00:14:56] their financials there's a lot of a lot of things going on but it seems like they do get a lot
[00:15:01] of big donations from other packs and non-profits and stuff and so if they actually did pay for this
[00:15:08] China trip we did not anyone's allowed to you know find out correct me on that
[00:15:16] but as far as what I have found so far taxpayers did not pay for that but when they do go to that
[00:15:22] conference in China that will certainly be on our dime because it's in the name of you know
[00:15:26] California State funded whatever correct um yeah so look forward to that
[00:15:36] and just to lighten the mood because this whole trip was sort of just one long
[00:15:44] cringe fast I wanted to pull this up
[00:15:51] uh this was probably the highlight of the trip
[00:16:00] his Gavin Newsom going in trests shoes and
[00:16:08] he grabs a little Chinese boy gives him a spank on the butt
[00:16:12] acting like oh that was what I've been to do poor little Chinese kid is like what the heck
[00:16:17] was what is this about just one more time okay Alex Michael San taking video of the whole thing
[00:16:25] tries to go around the back through the legs
[00:16:29] oh
[00:16:35] I think you could actually hear the kid go ow yes
[00:16:39] and then the second time I got you
[00:16:42] watching it through he does that like he goes ow so um I know that was really not important but
[00:16:50] could we talk about it yeah of course it's just so there is nothing wrong with Gavin going out
[00:16:59] I'm playing basketball with some kids okay like we can't really like pick on him for that
[00:17:03] but the whole thing is just he runs into the kid he knocks him over in the way that he grabs him
[00:17:10] he just acts like like we were talking about before it seems like the way he acts like oh look
[00:17:15] we pulled it off we did it together we're in this together and these kids are probably like who's
[00:17:21] who's this guy who invited this old guy dressed like that to come out here and play and now he's
[00:17:25] knocking me over and also just like as a parent I cringe even more because like if some foreign person
[00:17:35] not I don't mean that like that I'm against foreign people it's just to me of like this foreign
[00:17:39] person who I have no clue who they are they mean nothing to me you know I know that they're like in
[00:17:44] some office somewhere but I don't know who they are and they come in knock over my kid and grab
[00:17:48] them I would just be like get your hands on my kid yeah so the whole thing is so weird
[00:17:54] it'd be like the governor of like uh code back like coming down and like falling all over your
[00:18:00] kid you'd be like yeah what are you doing here oh god care if he's like powerful and something
[00:18:05] like contraption if this guy is yeah get off my kid it's so weird and why are you spanking him on
[00:18:10] the butt like that's weird okay that was your first reaction was spank him on the butt I forgot
[00:18:15] to show this as well um the the first partner California's first partner she got in on the action
[00:18:22] in heels and heels okay and uh she she shot her right she did however not fall on any kids so
[00:18:32] um let's see uh this is from California glow governor Gavin Newsom's trip to China mocked for
[00:18:41] cringe inducing moments and here we go um the California glow obviously holds no pun or pulls
[00:18:51] no punches new Sims trip sold to the media as a climate focused tour was more of a sea Gavin
[00:18:56] Newsom on the international stage pretending to be an international diplomat tour his PR team must
[00:19:02] have been working 24 seven on stage photo ops like this glamour shot and then prompt to human
[00:19:07] moments as the tweet below shows it's the basketball video um Rick Renel who is you know working hard
[00:19:17] to fix California um I haven't seen anything coming out of him and fix California uh he actually had
[00:19:23] a pretty funny tweet that said Gavin Newsom has always had really bad judgment like playing basketball
[00:19:28] and fancy dress shoes on slippery concrete kind of funny um but it goes on to say Chinese
[00:19:37] Americans in California become more more critical of the governor making the trip as well as outrage
[00:19:42] that Newsom is not pressed harder on issues ranging from human rights to stopping illegal fentanyl
[00:19:47] coming into the US grace Lee a coordinator of many Chinese clubs and groups in Southern California
[00:19:54] added that Newsom's trip there is a disappointment him and his trip have come up often in the last
[00:19:59] week or so and members from all these organizations are confused as to why he is there could have easily
[00:20:05] worked out deals from California and knock over there and cozy up with the communist government
[00:20:10] but he did does he realize that this is the same government that is committing genocide against
[00:20:15] the weaker people that has no freedom of the press that has blocked mostly internet off that has
[00:20:20] been that banned democratic images Newsom doing something so callus is mind boggling um hold on fixing
[00:20:29] something hold please holding holding uh let's see this was pretty interesting uh BYD
[00:20:41] you know what i mean by the way that you're going to be
[00:20:43] build your dreams if does that company sound familiar
[00:20:48] you cut out so i think you just asked me a question
[00:20:52] I said BYD does that company sound familiar
[00:20:57] i don't think so but then you're going to tell me and i'm going to fill down
[00:21:00] uh this it goes on say perhaps the standout moment of his Chinese China visit
[00:21:06] trip was when newsom was filmed behind the wheel of the build your dreams oh and
[00:21:12] and where the companies newest electric vehicle while a California
[00:21:17] if BYD rings a bell you'll recall that newsom purchased 1.4 billion dollars of mass
[00:21:23] from Chinese company BYD at outside of covid pandemic using taxpayer funds
[00:21:29] so it was an electric car company that was making masks
[00:21:32] mm-hmm so and he gave him 1.4 billion dollars and then he had to stop over and say hi to him
[00:21:39] probably had to see where all his money was going um
[00:21:44] did you wear this mask though like did you go to the hospitals
[00:21:49] to the health corner workers because you know we were one point for a billion dollars
[00:21:53] i had to buy my own yeah i mean well you can go to the store and buy like a hundred
[00:21:59] masks now for like five dollars so um or go on amazon sure you can buy a crap ton of
[00:22:06] of mass now so what is 1.4 billion dollars in mass look like
[00:22:12] yeah that's a lot that's a lot of mass so who knows where they went yeah it's a lot of
[00:22:18] it's interesting but yeah it's interesting that an electric car company that had no experience
[00:22:24] in making mass got a contract for 1.4 billion dollars um to make mass so he must have something
[00:22:32] going out with BYD so keep an eye on that on that in the future what's his connection with BYD
[00:22:41] all right i feel like you just challenged me to find it i sort of did challenge
[00:22:46] you can keep an eye on BYD and Gavin Newsom all right before we hop into the interview is there
[00:22:54] anything that i missed that we need to talk about with his his china trip let's see i have all these
[00:23:03] articles open that you sent me i mean do we really need to talk about the problems here back home
[00:23:11] probably not but i think i kind of get into the listeners that show as well at they know
[00:23:18] yeah they people listen to the show are well aware of what's going on in California left
[00:23:23] the state or that yeah i well we appreciate our listeners who have left California but tune in
[00:23:29] anyway because they want to know what's going on in California we appreciate you all those people
[00:23:34] out of status um yeah there was a political article i sent you um i didn't really get into
[00:23:40] it was like right before we hopped on about how um you know people were calling him out for the
[00:23:45] fact that he basically didn't take Xi Jinping to task on human rights abuses and all that stuff so
[00:23:53] yes and this is like your country that doesn't allow gay marriage or same-sex couples to adopt
[00:24:00] stuff like that and so you know he's so after red states but yet he's determined to make these
[00:24:06] relationships with China who's kind of worse than these red states so yeah yeah it's interesting
[00:24:15] that he's talking about uh you know he always talks about freedom and everyone's liberties
[00:24:20] and civil rights and then you go over to China and it's like well they have a whole bunch of their
[00:24:26] abuses too and the only thing he could say about China was just how incredible they were in their
[00:24:32] infrastructure oh there was the thing with the wall um i don't know if we have video of that
[00:24:37] where he was like standing on there's a photo of him standing on the wall then they asking what
[00:24:42] it's like to be on the wall and he said you know it's time we i want to tear down these walls
[00:24:48] and it's like you want to tear down the great wall of China um it's been there for thousands of
[00:24:53] years okay um but it's it's funny that he's i think someone pointed out that he was standing on a wall
[00:25:01] in China that was built to keep people out of China on their border when he hates the wall
[00:25:09] in California um it's just a whole mess of stuff anyway shall we jump into his interview
[00:25:18] sure all right let's do it let's jump into his interview with Alex Michael saying who
[00:25:25] was one of the reporters who was granted access to go on this uh this trip with him
[00:25:39] excuse me
[00:25:40] um
[00:25:46] China of all places
[00:25:50] yeah um so we have spent the week together and what do you think is the most important
[00:25:57] takeaway for you from this whole
[00:26:00] well i think the willingness for the Chinese to embrace uh the message not just the message
[00:26:06] jerk uh we've been treated extraordinarily well but the issue of climate change
[00:26:09] they wouldn't have met knowing that was the agenda unless they were committed to do more in
[00:26:15] this space and i think that's reflective of the experience we had this week the fact that we signed
[00:26:20] signed five m o u's and the fact that president Biden announced as we were here
[00:26:26] that he'll be meeting with president she in California a few weeks do you think that would have
[00:26:30] happened if you hadn't had your meeting yeah i think it likely would have but i think this
[00:26:34] gives a little more momentum and the fact that we were the foreign minister uh in two meetings
[00:26:39] of the decal I'm applying after for the second meeting he was in with president she myself and
[00:26:44] others and then met with our secretary of state and then met with the president to it formally
[00:26:48] announced there was a continuity of consistency in the messaging uh as uh and the engagement as
[00:26:54] what likes to be means we had in terms of the readouts of what we saw uh in Washington DC okay so
[00:26:59] let's go into the g me because that's the biggest me getting a week i was walking in there
[00:27:04] this this hall just like unlike anything i've ever seen before yeah and there's like trumpets
[00:27:08] blaring and there's soldiers walking yeah they don't score what's going through you were mine walk us
[00:27:13] through that i guess there's what i expected uh yeah just as you know the student of history student
[00:27:19] yeah that's sort of the scene that you can expect when you walk into a meeting with a dictator
[00:27:25] over the top military trumpets blaring yeah it's over the top that's what it looks like when you meet
[00:27:34] with a dictator so
[00:27:41] okay uh it was what i've seen on the screen they'll be there in person and sort of experientially
[00:27:50] uh walking uh in on that red carpet as we all did and that that stolen building that was donated
[00:27:57] to the chaget
[00:27:59] i'm pretty not in there of course what was that i'm sorry what was that
[00:28:04] what just happened i'm sorry folks i what just happened
[00:28:09] what's my question do you think he's taking notes for his his presidential inauguration but
[00:28:21] i'm a little sidetracked right now yeah wow what i don't even know how to get that to do that again
[00:28:28] what was that
[00:28:35] you're right
[00:28:48] we lost bill he's gone don't spit your tea out now oh my gosh oh my gosh we got to cut that
[00:28:57] or which is to leave that i didn't i i made air quotes if for those who are watching
[00:29:05] what was that
[00:29:12] don't see anything about again oh my gosh
[00:29:15] stay here oh my gosh i didn't know there were like special effects you could do on this
[00:29:22] oh i don't know if i really became a talk now like
[00:29:25] oh my gosh that must have been a new update to our our recording software anyway
[00:29:31] um i was gonna say donated
[00:29:36] right more like stolen taken by force they they were not uh they were not donated
[00:29:41] that was definitely taken by force so
[00:29:44] oh my gosh anyway that was whoo that was the highlight of the episode i don't want to say
[00:29:53] about no more you know what you did no no air quotes or anything okay let's keep going
[00:30:05] remarkable uh it's it's a structure that exudes power i think
[00:30:13] soot's place uh in it's intended to be what it is uh yeah it was sort of overwhelming for any
[00:30:20] visitors home field advantage i guess uh you know i don't know what it's analogous to
[00:30:24] when they sent the obelophess is the greatest home field advantage for the president
[00:30:28] somebody walks in there and i think i think they're trying to replicate that but
[00:30:32] but again there's a familiarity when you see people i guess it is all by all the adage
[00:30:37] when you see people on tv all the time like i know you uh and then you have the opportunity
[00:30:41] spend time with someone and it was surprisingly relaxing so let's get into the meeting itself um
[00:30:49] the points you make to she talk about climate change you know you also talk about tenement
[00:30:54] yeah would you say what was his reaction well you even i mean the meeting was nice at these first
[00:30:59] there's a lot about california is about san francisco how many times he visited three times
[00:31:03] vice president president and in 1985 this first visit through san francisco on his way to Iowa
[00:31:09] and his memories of san francisco particularly the golden eighth grade uh so just on the human
[00:31:14] human side just that that softener and then we got into the issue to the reason i was there around
[00:31:19] climate change and he knew that he was certainly prepared he was well aware of where we were
[00:31:23] in our previous uh journey at least the previous days of where we were going next uh so he was teed
[00:31:28] up for that and uh what would remind full of what that agenda represented to be in that
[00:31:33] oh we transitioned to fennel and i told him personally this is uh you know sent him on a killer
[00:31:37] people 1849 the United States will be after it's taken one life a day in the place that i hope you
[00:31:43] visit in san francisco at eight pack in a few weeks as we transitioned into formal invitation of
[00:31:50] course to eight pack uh as a host state governor but uh it was an interesting transition and he was very
[00:31:56] prepared for that part of the conversation well even though there was no preparation in advance
[00:32:01] that i would bring that uh you didn't ask you a human rights direction
[00:32:06] i did perfect timing where are you saying
[00:32:10] i don't know i was just going to say you know fennel that gavinousam's taken very seriously and
[00:32:15] has increased the border patrols by 50 percent so yes yes that we did cover a lot
[00:32:22] i understand was taking it very seriously at home it's best that he was able to transition to that
[00:32:26] conversation and that you know they were prepared to speak about it but then he doesn't even say like
[00:32:32] they they certainly didn't sign any like uh then marannum's of agreements there you know of like
[00:32:39] we're gonna solve the ventanol crisis together it was just like oh we talked about it and then he
[00:32:43] just like moves on hey hey you had an opportunity there's there's an issue here where are you at gavin come on
[00:32:56] you
[00:32:59] brought it up to the foreign minister you know vice president you know there are folks on both the left
[00:33:03] i laugh about it sure you clearly made a strategic choice to do that what was your thing to do
[00:33:09] with the foreign minister was in the video she i spent an hour with the foreign minister uh and
[00:33:14] that was the appropriate meeting on the basis of the conversations i had with the state department
[00:33:19] on the basis of the fact that that would be better place to communicate a more nuanced and detailed
[00:33:24] explanation of our points of view on the issue of human rights and democracy on issues related to
[00:33:29] Taiwan issues related international uh and foreign policy more broadly uh and we took a limited
[00:33:35] time we had with she which we were told would be just 20 minutes and we have the opportunity extended
[00:33:40] to 45 and i didn't want to miss the opportunity those 20 minutes to reinforce the
[00:33:46] not as president of the united states just plain president of the united states right now
[00:33:59] but as a governor of one of the largest states and one of the largest coming to the world
[00:34:04] to focus on low carbon green growth and i don't want to miss that opportunity in moment to
[00:34:09] influence this foundational agenda which is bigger than any situational agenda in our lifetime
[00:34:16] i mean some of the thinking if you do that he goes like this and he's not open to anything else
[00:34:21] i had an opportunity to talk about the most important issue in our lives it's the most important
[00:34:25] issue everything else is situational this is the most sustainable issue it's changing everything
[00:34:31] and what happens is our mind gets so short fuse on the situation
[00:34:36] it's far and it's that you know and so my mind is so focused on the fact that like
[00:34:42] i'm a stay at home mom so we're single income and like my husband's paycheck just doesn't go
[00:34:47] nearly as far as it used to and i'm just so focused on that that i can't even be like oh my god
[00:34:53] what are we doing about climate change that's that is really kind of crazy that he says
[00:35:01] climate change forget forget the human rights abuses against the weaker Muslims in China
[00:35:07] situational situational forget that the concentration camps and horrible conditions out there living
[00:35:13] in situational not as important as climate change nothing this is the first lifetime
[00:35:23] that might be i mean he says he's pretty slick and i've always said this give Gavin News
[00:35:28] some credit he's a slick politician he's good at what he does that might be one of the biggest
[00:35:33] flubs he's ever said publicly which is to kind of downplay the human rights abuses against the
[00:35:41] weaker Muslims so to just say oh well that that stuff situational that's that's not as important
[00:35:48] as this this is everything everything comes down to climate change okay you know you want to talk
[00:35:56] about the human rights abuses during covid when they were locking people in their homes they were
[00:36:01] literally locking them and don't focus on that don't focus on that that's situation climate change
[00:36:08] this is the most important thing so he's usually pretty good at being slick at answers that was a
[00:36:13] horrible answer um that will probably come back to bite him someday when he runs for president
[00:36:18] politics changed the way we live change the way we breathe changing our health patterns changing
[00:36:29] our wealth patterns changing migration around the world there's no more concept potential issue
[00:36:35] in the world today long and medium term increasingly short term then the issue of climate change
[00:36:41] as important as all those other issues it's been remarkable to see the reaction to you lots of
[00:36:47] cameras that he probably brought to take plenty of pictures and video Alex come on
[00:37:06] what do you think that that though has done for us China relations and China California relations
[00:37:14] naming tourists and all these in handsome as health from the tourists did I hear that
[00:37:18] correctly I guess he's just him being handsome in China has helped California tourism
[00:37:26] and we're gonna need a lot of it with with our 20 billion dollar deficit in the unemployment
[00:37:30] funds so get get to it you know get get those what do you call get those tourists over here
[00:37:38] get them some Disneyland passes and get them over here as fast as possible we need that one
[00:37:42] I feel like he should just like charge for an exhibit and he could probably you know if he's
[00:37:48] if people are like lining up to be tourists in California just to get a glimpse of him like why is he
[00:37:52] charged like five dollar entrance fee and he could big dealians in a few days probably it sees
[00:37:59] you know Alex is he's damn handsome so handsome
[00:38:04] and we talk about the United States it's an abstract it's an intellectual that's
[00:38:10] to have a human being attached to these conversations to be able to communicate its human beings to
[00:38:15] talk about areas of common concern and common humanity is incredibly powerful in the fact
[00:38:21] that of the first governor has been here for 1.5 years and the fact that we're talking about
[00:38:25] the issue that is the issue that will define the fate and future of this planet and that's the
[00:38:30] issue of climate change and to be able to have this kind of access and the vice president for
[00:38:34] a minister with every major minister and have substantive conversations detailed nuance conversations
[00:38:41] not just platitudes and photo ops decide five ML use that we negotiate it took you months to
[00:38:47] negotiate a document that has literally no legal binding at all but now I know how many of you
[00:38:54] still find it now I wonder why our government so backwards it took you month that's what you were
[00:39:00] focused on it took months month it's a one-page document that says we understand we're going to work
[00:39:07] together on climate change yay that took months geez that's embarrassing
[00:39:15] extraordinary and I'm blessed and humbled by are you concerned though that some of those images
[00:39:27] of you may be used as sort of propaganda by the administration that a lot of people see as
[00:39:32] repressive and communist well I mean I was here three prior occasions you had a bipartisan
[00:39:39] you have republicans as democrats here just a few weeks ago Senator Schumer was here I imagine
[00:39:44] the same would be said of those meetings say we'll be said about the median president by it
[00:39:48] will we have much better than see stay at California
[00:39:59] so I mean the number one training part number one I mean count ones need to know this
[00:40:03] number one training part of the $1 trillion of the time I mean it's it's the tourism
[00:40:12] and trade and we're going to be more covered from the pre pandemic tourism and that's for our
[00:40:17] restaurants or hotels our retailers I want to get that back and buy with two million Chinese
[00:40:23] Americans living in California I've come from San Francisco and Gateway China the first and largest
[00:40:27] China town I want to get back to that and look at the end of the day with all due respect I don't
[00:40:33] want a new cold war I don't want to go to World China I mean some people I think really do I mean
[00:40:39] it scares the hell out of me think about that I mean this we got a softened tone antenna here
[00:40:46] and that was the reason I came I couldn't take the right people need to take we can
[00:40:50] just let us reason my name was to knock it in a world with China I thought he went to solve
[00:40:54] climate change and like save the world because that's the single most important issue we shouldn't
[00:40:58] be focusing on other things right yeah so how dare he how dare he focus on a situational maybe
[00:41:06] war with China yeah that's situational Gavin you can't focus on situational stuff climate change
[00:41:12] is way more important than World War III I'm disappointing Gavin you're not focusing on the big picture here
[00:41:23] oh my god if I have to hear him say Biden has completed a masterclass one more time it is such a
[00:41:32] canned response the masterclass just a masterclass as president unbelievable
[00:41:46] in dealing internationally with China in terms of what he's just done on chips and that impacts our
[00:41:50] states much of one of the both states and I defended that decision I defended our position as a
[00:41:56] like to Taiwan what's happened and the concerns we have around the Taiwan Straits and I defended
[00:42:01] very forcefully what we're doing what broadly on very the other issues and at the same time focusing
[00:42:06] on the areas of agreement so we can advance our common cause you know some of the criticism back home
[00:42:12] is that China feels like a world away from being back home and people are concerned about issues
[00:42:17] like homelessness concerned about gas price situational local concerns that situational okay
[00:42:24] dealing with climate change more important being in China talking about climate change is way
[00:42:30] more important than what's going on in California that situational stuff Alex you're getting off
[00:42:35] the point here yeah like you didn't really listen out on the first time yeah
[00:42:45] what do you say to those I don't know it's 24 seven seven days a week homelessness is the number one
[00:42:50] to number ten issues all I focus on it until literally the last minute I left here at the end of
[00:42:56] a legislative session signed unprecedented housing and homeless bills just to clarify in the
[00:43:01] office Gavin Newsom is admitted that he has spent 24 he's been on this homelessness issue 24 seven
[00:43:09] focused he said the word focused he's been focused on it 24 seven it is top topic number one through
[00:43:15] ten and with all that effort and focus it's only gotten worse so but also that's just situational
[00:43:28] I'm sorry yeah I mean yeah but remember that this climate change is the single most important
[00:43:37] crisis of our lifetime yeah don't focus on other things are situational he told us that five minutes
[00:43:44] ago you know people dying of fentanyl in California situational situation not important
[00:43:58] order of magnitude the most significant mental health reforms in California's history that will
[00:44:03] be placing on the ballot taking a few days after legislative session with the entire
[00:44:08] legislature's obligation are out of town after remarkably successful year where we were able to
[00:44:14] focus on those issues in nuance and detail to advance the cause of climate and partnership and
[00:44:20] trade and investment in our state to focus on the issues of reinvigorating these relationships I
[00:44:27] think is a pretty good use of time a couple of the climate things you talked about and one that
[00:44:31] I think is really interesting is this idea of launching satellites the California is about to be
[00:44:36] in satellite business we have the next month to be able to detect that thing from space talk
[00:44:43] about why that's important what that's going to be like well there's no such a national I get
[00:44:48] California's a unique place the way we make status I've been in five years I think it's
[00:44:54] I don't know that any other governors been out of the country less than I have I've only been on two
[00:44:59] I mean again call me crazy I think if you're the governor of a state in the United States of America
[00:45:06] there's not really any reason for you to go on out of the country true
[00:45:12] yeah I mean you're a lot of vacation yeah I mean yeah you I would say okay vacations fine like if
[00:45:20] you want to take your vacation you want to go somewhere that's fine and you know Gavin had his
[00:45:24] share he went to Mexico during COVID and then he stayed at that villa owned by a Russian oligarch
[00:45:30] also during COVID but that's besides the point but like official trips like they're going out
[00:45:35] of the state to go do other things like in different countries on official business I I don't know why
[00:45:42] governors do that there's no reason for me to yeah there's nothing legally you can do like there's
[00:45:48] nothing you can't enter into any agreements you can't do anything so it's it's literally just
[00:45:54] for show and it's just for pictures so the fact that he's bragging about well I haven't been out
[00:46:00] the country as governor like there's only my second time okay your governor of a state you should be
[00:46:09] in the state working on solving the problems in that state
[00:46:18] yeah so I want to order and here and I think primarily that's because of the pandemic so this is not
[00:46:24] you got some other states and democracy is that part of the job of being governor going to other
[00:46:31] states and lecturing them on their policy is that part of the job of being a governor idea
[00:46:36] I literally missed that part in my government class so yeah I don't think that's part of being
[00:46:43] governor is to go to different states and lecture them on what they're doing wrong
[00:46:47] you
[00:46:52] the governor's consistent I oversee you saw that with swords and anger for having to see all the other
[00:46:57] ministers my point is to make the point that it is limited in its time certain and it's focused on
[00:47:04] moments that I think matter and issues that matter climate change but the subtext of that is
[00:47:10] what you're suggesting is that we are as a state doing what nations do and that's
[00:47:16] launching satellites we'll have a constellation of eight satellites we put a hundred million
[00:47:20] dollars approved by the legislature in the budget to address the potency and power of addressing
[00:47:27] fundamentally mitigating issues around detection and mitigation I have no idea what the heck he's
[00:47:34] talking about the detection of methane yeah from space satellites I'm gonna skip ahead because I know
[00:47:44] you made some notes so let's skip ahead okay because he's talking about cowfarts and stuff like
[00:47:51] that I'm not really go to I mean it's just quick but like 12 minutes 26 seconds 12 minutes 26 seconds
[00:47:59] okay
[00:48:08] every critical category AI we dominate on innovation and entrepreneurialism on patents
[00:48:14] the finest system higher education on planet earth we're leading the world on carbon
[00:48:20] strategies to reduce carbon change the way we produce and consume energy and it's a really
[00:48:25] point of pride we want to export that and we want to import it so I'm not talking about
[00:48:30] leading the way sorry I cry I had oh it's second too late but he basically said
[00:48:36] California is leading the nation in every critical area and then he starts naming all these areas
[00:48:40] meanwhile we're technically failing in a critical area but well he's he's he's saying we're
[00:48:48] leading in these like fuzzy science areas but you know well great but what good is that when
[00:48:57] our students are failing and our population is becoming more and more broke and homeless and poor
[00:49:03] and crime is out of control and we're all gonna be shot to death anyway but at least we
[00:49:10] I mean you know science we're leading in other bad categories too in terms of poverty and
[00:49:20] unaffordability and housing prices and gas prices and
[00:49:26] leading right to the bottom when it comes to passing grades at school so yeah
[00:49:31] we're leading a lot of other categories too but he doesn't want to talk about those he talks
[00:49:35] about the fuzzy stuff like carbon and AI and stuff like that and satellites to track how far it's
[00:49:44] okay let's jump to 15 this was another bookmark yeah
[00:49:53] so the fact that there hasn't been as much communication between the two countries because of COVID
[00:50:00] and because of the politics of COVID afterwards yeah um you've thought about a lot what we did
[00:50:06] write what we did wrong because there could be another pandemic with your governor he got to do
[00:50:10] this again what do you think was the biggest lesson learned in terms of what we did wrong that maybe
[00:50:15] you would do differently the next time I'm not consumed by what we did right I'm consumed a little
[00:50:20] bit more by what we did right I mean we led the nation in terms of and there's no large state that
[00:50:24] out for California 21 of the top four states in terms of health wealth and education let me be
[00:50:29] specific about that on a per capita basis and a number of people lost didn't we debunk this and say
[00:50:34] that that's not true at all did we yeah yeah tweeting to again now I just know I feel like I'm
[00:50:43] like yeah I think we're I'm pretty sure we're the last in education so I don't know why he keeps
[00:50:49] saying we're top in education like anybody can just google California rankings and of course you
[00:50:55] can't you know miss the opportunity to bring up Florida and it's like no Florida is still beating
[00:51:01] us at these things they're still ahead of us so yeah
[00:51:09] we're in the wealth we contracted at a smaller rate in 2020 we expanded at a faster rate
[00:51:14] economy in 2021 and we had less learning loss than states like Florida and elsewhere so we
[00:51:19] outperformed the rest of the nation in that respect I think we should acknowledge that at number two
[00:51:25] we also acknowledge at the time we didn't know what we didn't know and we're experts are geniuses
[00:51:30] in hindsight though I'm not sure that we're as smart as we could be because we've never really
[00:51:36] done the kind of exercise of humility and accountability to really look back right now the
[00:51:42] only things that have been done to look back on what could have been done better or smart
[00:51:46] are are done in a partisan way save what we're trying to do in California I'll add an effort
[00:51:52] about nine months ago and was a year ago now in sunny lands brought world experts we interview
[00:51:58] people around the world about California's approach to code and we said what did we do right what
[00:52:02] did we do wrong convened for three days with these world reading experts and we have a report
[00:52:07] that we're looking forward to publishing on areas where we could have proved a substantive answer
[00:52:12] that question not emotionally answer that question through an objective lens not a partisan and some
[00:52:17] of it I mean schools shut down too long I mean in certain parts of the state in certain parts no just
[00:52:23] here we go we gave local control did we did we Gavin did you give local control
[00:52:37] or did you run California from Sacramento because that's what it looked like you did in COVID I
[00:52:43] mean we don't want to be a dead horse here we've talked about COVID and his policies but he certainly
[00:52:47] didn't give local control to schools it was very much here's what the California Department of Health
[00:52:54] says you have to meet these standards if you don't meet these standards then guess what you don't
[00:52:58] get to go back to school and most schools didn't come close and never reopened during COVID or
[00:53:04] went back to person so and he's still trying to take away local control from schools
[00:53:11] yeah well it's yeah that's a great point ironically he's talking about we gave back local control but
[00:53:16] he doesn't like local control when it goes against his agenda or his political philosophy
[00:53:21] that local control is bad
[00:53:23] no no no no no no no no he this idea of localism it's great I mean if that's if he really is
[00:53:44] advocating the idea of localism and a constitutional system that he's advocating sure I've said this
[00:53:52] before I've said that at California it should be run like it's a little country each county should
[00:53:57] be run like its own state and we should have more local control and there should be little governors
[00:54:02] of these counties and stuff like that and basically that's how we should be run
[00:54:07] that's never been Gavin Newsom's philosophy though that's never been a California Democrats philosophy
[00:54:14] in here in California when they had the super majority they basically shove Bay Area policies down
[00:54:21] the rest of our throats whether we want it or not Gavin Newsom shoves his policies down our throats
[00:54:27] whether we want it or not he doesn't believe in local control he doesn't believe in local elected
[00:54:32] officials making decisions for themselves as we've seen with school boards so at the end day he
[00:54:37] does not believe in localism he believes in a top-down mentality where all the power comes from
[00:54:42] a centralized sacrament out and the rest of us just have to bend a knee to the to his sacrament out
[00:54:48] so no he does not believe in localism he does not believe in that sort of
[00:54:55] no he definitely did not advance any sort of localism
[00:55:03] the half-companied control so the question is do we want to ship that policy and allow a dominant
[00:55:09] force in sacramental to determine the fate of local school districts
[00:55:12] uh he must have been tired or something because this is not one of his best interviews he's
[00:55:18] bit just giving bad answer after bad answer um what i'm sorry you you did you just literally say
[00:55:28] you don't want a dominating force from sacramental telling local school districts what they can and
[00:55:33] cannot do i'm sorry is that what you just said in dp-todd
[00:55:38] with all the stuff that's going on right now that's what he said is that he doesn't think a
[00:55:45] dominating sacramental pro uh it's that a dominating sacramental power presence should not be
[00:55:51] pushing a local school boards okay okay well keep that energy when you come back and local
[00:55:58] school boards vote for parental notification policies and you don't throw a fit or have your
[00:56:04] attorney general file lawsuits against them so just keep that same energy news him
[00:56:14] he says it was yes they waited too long in other cases they didn't but the point is this
[00:56:21] if the purpose was to keep people in schools because we wanted to aid in their learning
[00:56:26] it's an interesting fact isn't it that states like Florida are out there saying we got we opened
[00:56:32] up earlier and yet they did worse in academic achievement they were they had more learning loss
[00:56:39] in every city lies or for a great reading fourth grade math a great reading lies for good
[00:56:44] night category time in every just lies their students
[00:56:54] spared worse than in california these are facts and that's why this is not an emotional topic
[00:57:00] we have to i think come out of this with a sense of humility absolutely i'm naive about
[00:57:07] things we could have done differently or better but also a little grace uh the california
[00:57:12] tended to do a little bit better than most other states um before you came here you were in
[00:57:17] israel you met with eating at nyahu was that meeting like we want to say
[00:57:22] and i flew
[00:57:27] flew in uh i know a lot of you are anxious about landing in telebefe we we've secured as much protection
[00:57:35] as possible um and you know it's covered night it's very dark into the city we landed in uh
[00:57:41] met with the president of my former minister met with families including members from law
[00:57:47] sandals uh met with a family that uh that i had met prior uh in california uh with american citizen
[00:57:55] snout still held hostage 23 old young man and uh and it was very intensively
[00:58:00] did he go from israel straight to china was that the route he took or am i getting that wrong
[00:58:07] no i think i think israel was first because he just got back from china on sunday
[00:58:12] yeah he's yeah he went to israel first
[00:58:20] in around the what what it's an essence of what for real uh with actually the prime minister and
[00:58:27] that says surreal experience in the the myths are in the middle of the war and we flew out uh 12 hours
[00:58:32] later flew in the cypress flew into Athens flew to the london and made my way out to harkon
[00:58:37] it's been quite a week would you say to netanyana well i mean i i listened more than uh i said
[00:58:43] i did say this was what what what there's a couple days before i left Israel why why
[00:58:50] is why is california sending anything do i have to say this again 20 billion dollar deficit in the
[00:58:57] unemployment fund that there is literally no answer for what what supplies gavin what supplies could
[00:59:04] you possibly be sending is it left over mass yeah jinx it's the left over mass from b y d your
[00:59:13] buddies over in china is that what you're sending them because what could california possibly be
[00:59:18] sending to israel that they need that the federal government's not already sending and and
[00:59:23] boxes and billions of dollars gavin and is here no that's that's what they needed they needed him
[00:59:30] to the morale booster like we talked about around there like it's real but psych if only gavin we're here
[00:59:37] and then he's like only with grant if only they sent over the real president and then they did
[00:59:43] and gavin was there um all right is there anything else that we need to touch upon it i think he's
[00:59:48] kind of getting off topic of what he was doing China no i just think that other driving with sharks
[00:59:52] thing that yeah you brought that up that he was diving with sharks and environmentally that like
[00:59:59] what is that ruin the environment or like their ecosystem or something yeah i mean according to
[01:00:04] environmentalist that like that's like a it disrupts their breeding and and it's just so i just
[01:00:11] laugh because this whole thing has been about climate change and then he's like yeah i took the
[01:00:15] opportunity to go diving in sharks i guess you didn't guess anyone told you that was you know supposedly
[01:00:24] something you don't do if you care about the environment and remember it's the number one issue
[01:00:30] and everything else is situational i know i know so don't don't ask him about anything else
[01:00:36] all right final thoughts about mr new sims trip to china
[01:00:43] you want to go first to show up flying cars haven't we been talking about flying cars for like 60
[01:00:47] years now like a hundred years um yeah he he went and talked he went to this factory that was producing
[01:00:56] well you want to test the factory then he also went to this factory oh well he went to the
[01:01:01] test of factory and he was expecting that they're going to be driverless flying cars soon
[01:01:08] although however the california department motor vehicles revoked permits for driverless
[01:01:12] vehicle testing operated by the rideshare company crews following multiple incidents
[01:01:18] so right and then you know those flying cars will have to be battery operated and that's the
[01:01:26] issue that they're having with airplanes as batteries are too heavy yeah so you do with batteries when
[01:01:33] they've run out of their juice yeah you put them in the ground and hope that it doesn't create
[01:01:41] problems here's later um yeah so my final thoughts you want to go first or shall i
[01:01:49] no i think that's my final thoughts you go ahead um yeah i mean it's sort of the same that i started
[01:01:55] off with obviously this is just more uh this is more photos and videos and more building up his cred
[01:02:02] for he can run for president um you know as soon as he won re-election it was so evident that he
[01:02:10] just did not care anymore about being governor of california and um at this point he's just
[01:02:16] reaching for the next brass ring in his political career and that's obviously the presidency so we can
[01:02:22] look forward to the next how many more years until he's out three years because he just got reelected
[01:02:28] yes yeah yeah so so three more years until he's out um it's going to be more of this it's going to
[01:02:36] be more of him being an absentee governor he was like this as a lieutenant governor too there were a
[01:02:41] lot of people called him out for the fact that he was kind of an absentee lieutenant governor and
[01:02:45] you didn't really actually do his job um but this is going to be him for the next three years if he
[01:02:50] doesn't run for president next year um if he isn't shoved into it so uh uh uh uh
[01:02:59] memorandums of understanding their great photo ops they don't mean anything they don't do
[01:03:04] anything these Chinese officials probably laughed on their way out of the room saying like who was
[01:03:09] this guy and why do we care who he is um we're not going to listen to him anyway he has no power
[01:03:14] outside of being governor of california um so yeah i you know it looked like a lot of pomp and
[01:03:20] circumstance was thrown for him which was pretty impressive there were dinners and there were
[01:03:25] meetings and he got to meet the president and there was you know people following all over taking
[01:03:31] photos because as Alex michael said he's so he's so darn handsome that's why everybody in china
[01:03:37] just fell all over him um so end of the day uh it i think he's trying to obviously build his
[01:03:47] presidential cred but i think it also long term is not going to resonate with swing voters in swing
[01:03:56] states um i think something like this when california's suffering looks horrible and i think political
[01:04:05] opponents will just run with this they will be like you know gavin newsam when when crime was on
[01:04:11] the rise and people were being shot in the street and robbed and there was fentanyl and all these
[01:04:18] issues and gas is over seven dollars a gallon where was gavin newsam and they'll just show a picture
[01:04:24] of him hanging out with ggping not gonna ever get the gavin newsam was hanging out with the ccp
[01:04:31] and playing basketball and falling over little chinese boys um and that's going to be ammo for those
[01:04:39] swing states and middle america so it's not it's not going to play well um all in all i think
[01:04:48] i'm pretty honest i think this was a major political blunder on his part i think it looks horrible um
[01:04:54] just comes off really really bad focus on your state solve the issues here if you want to run for
[01:04:59] president because running for president when your state is on you know an absolute dumpster fire
[01:05:05] right now not a good look so i guess those are my final thoughts yeah i guess california so bad
[01:05:13] even gavin doesn't want to be here anymore yeah even he's like and i don't even want to be here
[01:05:18] anymore i'm out like he was used to count in the days he's like legislate sessions over
[01:05:23] i'm out guys like i'm out of here i'm gonna hitch a plane to israel i'd rather go to a war
[01:05:29] torn israel than being california right now that's his kind of that's his outlook on california
[01:05:35] right now um there wasn't article i i found i i didn't actually get past the paywall but i wanted
[01:05:42] to see what uh the lieutenant what governor was up to because she's running the state where she
[01:05:47] was running the state i didn't i get to see what that was obviously nothing big i haven't really
[01:05:51] heard about it so um yeah that's basically it mr mr new sims trip to china political blunder
[01:06:00] it's not gonna look good gonna be horrible play in the swing states and independent voters
[01:06:06] all right so i think that's our episode for tonight uh any other thoughts before we sign off
[01:06:12] no i'm good i apologize i have no idea how i made balloons and confetti pop up in my camera
[01:06:21] can i do it again it was like maybe i'm back
[01:06:27] say air quotes you have to like do and say air quotes air quotes air quotes it was weird i don't
[01:06:32] even know how to do it anymore it just caught me off guard i had no idea um anyway uh that's our show
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