Episode 208 - Fact Checking Newsom's Freedom Tour

Episode 208 - Fact Checking Newsom's Freedom Tour

Phil and Camille bring you the latest discussions in California politics and do their best to crack through the insanity.


On this episode, Camille and I watch an interview with Governor Newsom and Jen Psaki where he discusses issues such as freedom and liberty and we fact check him and his outlandish claims.


This episode was recorded on 4.20.23


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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another

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episode of the California underground podcast tonight.

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We have an episode where we're going to talk all about noodles

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and his freedom tour. It's noodles and it's Magical

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Mystery Freedom tour where he went out to all the

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authoritarian red States in his words to tell them all about

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freedom and Liberties and all that stuff and educate them

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about how he's the most Freedom, loving person in the entire

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country. And these mean Governors.

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Like Ron DeSantis they just Don't understand and the

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interview is conducted by one Jen sake.

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If you recognize that name it's because she used to be the press

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secretary for President Biden. She now has a cushy job over at

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MSNBC where she gets to gush all over politicians, like Gavin.

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Newsom. We're going to watch some of

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that interview this evening. But before we begin, I am, I

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trusty co-host with me. Here Camille the fast and best

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researcher in the west. How's it going tonight, Camille?

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I good. Thanks.

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How are you? Phil, nice shirt.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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I figured, I'd wear my noodle shirt just specifically for this

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episode. I always liked these episodes

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where we just get to watch noodles, kind of ramble on and

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for people who don't know what we're talking about.

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If you don't know what our nickname for Gavin Newsom is

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noodles. There's a whole story behind it.

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It's mostly because he has little noodley arms, and he has

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kind of a noodley personality as well.

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So initial thoughts, before we hop into this interview, From

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you Camille. Yeah, I always have thoughts.

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It's, it's a heart interview to watch.

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It's I mean, it's only 35 minutes but Jen is just gushing

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over him every before every single question, she's just

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like, oh my gosh. I just want to eat you up yappin

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and, you know, just like leaning for gushing over him and then

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he's got a slick back hair and it's perfect like teeth.

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But at the same time he's got this really likes out slouchy to

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meet her where he's just like like suit jacket open.

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He's just kind of like, I want to, you know, you're not Not but

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he's trying to go for the Casual look because he's doing the suit

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Noti thing for me was hard to watch her that it was hard to

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watch. She was definitely not.

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She's trying, I think she's trying to be a professional

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interviewer and professional journalist, but this interview

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comes off, so biased. As if they're like, just two

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high school girls chatting away about gossip and stuff like

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that. It's definitely not

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professional. It's just all softball

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questions, but what can you expect?

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It's MSNBC. PCH gents a key.

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So the whole interview is basically just softballs form

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and we could always hypothesize what he's doing.

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Why is he out on the road who's paying for it?

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We'll talk about that in a little bit.

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But let's jump into it because it's a pretty long interview.

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I don't know if we'll get to all of it, but I do want to get

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through some of the things, especially when he talks about

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gun reform because I love hearing noodles, talk about guns

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because boy, does he really Get to exemplify our a kind of show

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his expertise on Firearms, it's just unbelievable.

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Also, his knowledge of history of the Second Amendment is quite

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fascinating. So with further Ado, let's hop

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into this interview with Gavin, Newsom and gents a key.

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If pledged to take on authoritarian leadership and red

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States. Before we even start about two

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seconds and already, she goes, you're on tour to take on

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authoritarian leaders in red States boy, let's not show our

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bias right off the bat or anything.

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She already agrees that anybody in red states are already

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authoritarian and she's already teen it up for him.

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So right off the bat, nice and biased, not like, hey you're on

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tour too because of these All causes or whatever.

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It's let's talk about these authoritarian leaders in red

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States. So already you can tell what

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type of gushy interview it's going to be Yeah, barnea

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Progressive on Jews. I think it's safe to say the

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right person to do that. I'm not total humility, I'm not

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the right person. I would agree with that.

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You're not the right person to go lecture anybody on

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authoritarianism, especially after what you put California

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through. What's that total humility

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though? He's like with total humility.

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No, no. There's nothing.

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Nothing humble. Now, promise me up.

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Stop. Stop.

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Fanning over me. I'm just I'm just a I'm an

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average. Joe like the rest of you.

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Well, that's our responsibility. All of us has to beat this

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moment. We all our citizens and we are

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not inert, we have to be more active.

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We have agents that we can shape the future.

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I have been to represent a state of 40 million Americans but in

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the spirit of dr. King lost his life 55 years ago,

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to the day, we're all bound together by a web of mutuality.

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We're All in This Together and in this notion that we are

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celebrating politicians that are promoting and National divorce,

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most a civil war narrative Sickens me and my soul.

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And so I felt compelled to get out and at least express my role

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and individual responsibility as a citizen.

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Not just as Governor Now, isn't it, always California.

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Who loves to brag about? We have the fifth largest

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economy. What would you guys do without

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us? And California could just do

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fine on its own. So, what a national divorce in

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his mind actually benefit California, he can Yeah, he

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could be king of California, he would never have to resign as

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Governor. I always thought that the way

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they made a silence California, doesn't need the rest of the

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United States. So what's he worried about a

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national divorce for? And they always talk about how

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all the blue states don't take in as much.

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Welfare is the red States. Although when you look at actual

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like the numbers of who takes in the most welfare in the red

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States, It's usually the blue cities that kind of tips the

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scales but honest question. And are we even still talking

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about a national divorce? I think that was like a Marjorie

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Taylor green thing. It's been a Libertarian thing

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for a while and it's bubbled up through like more libertarian.

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Republicans, this idea of a national divorce and I've always

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wanted to talk more about the idea of a national divorce, but

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I think it might be a little too heavy in terms of the the

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psychology or philosophy behind it.

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Um, but it is an interesting concept.

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The idea of a national divorce, like should we still remain a

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country? If we can't get along and we're

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this polarized but I guess in his mind, yeah, we have to stay

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together. So but no, I don't think

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anyone's really talking about National divorce anymore.

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I think that kind of moved out of the Zeitgeist like two or

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three months ago and that is, are you telling me that's why he

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went on tour was this idea of national divorce like three or

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four months ago? I seems like a odd reason for

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him to just go on tour. I mean, we all know why he went

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on tour with this Freedom towards most likely to kind of

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bolster his presidential image. Just in case, Biden decides to

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step aside in 2024, you'll have someone who's already and I give

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him credit Gavin's, already sort of making the moves to be the

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Democratic, FrontRunner, in case, that does happen, he'll

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already have the national recognition and the love of a

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lot of his Progressive base. But let's keep going and see

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what else he has to say. Yeah.

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To call it out called out what I'm seeing and we're sitting

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here in a museum, dedicated to Rosa Parks, what a historic,

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incredible person and person in our history and you brought your

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for kids with you on this trip. And part of this is, you know,

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we're obviously seeing a concerted effort to prevent his

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and they're just adorable and I love them and oh my God, I can

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just eat them up. They're just so great.

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Because I had to get plenty of photos and and I just never saw

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those back and I run for president.

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I have photos and videos of me and my kids and my family doing

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these wonderful things. Come on, Jen.

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You know this you've worked for President Biden also.

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What is with this fake? Code switching.

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Southern drawl that he just. Did you pick up on that?

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I just picked up on the way he went.

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Didn't, I didn't over the way he picks.

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He says, because I don't want my kids to ever ride in the back of

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the bus. It's like, excuse me, you are

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he's in Alabama, right? Yes.

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Yeah, he's in Alabama because it's the Rosa Parks Museum.

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But which I think I said this to earlier, this really annoys me

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that he's in a red state in the Rosa Parks Museum complaining

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about them. Not wanting to teach real

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history in the Rosa Parks Museum.

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Yeah. They literally created a museum

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to Rosa Parks in Alabama, to show the history of what

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happened during the Civil Rights Movement.

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And he's saying, red states do don't want to show the history

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of America. Yes, yes.

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Get. Also, this is one of the states

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that we talked about this before.

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The show isn't an Alabama, one of the states that has been on

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the banned list of California politicians.

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Now granted, what that means is that they were not going to

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spend California money or any of the money for the legislature to

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go to these certain red States. So, if there was a conference or

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something, they weren't going to send politicians there because

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they didn't want To travel to those States, as if those States

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really work withering in their boots.

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Because a couple politicians from Sacramento, couldn't come

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but he's now traveling to these states correct which is

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definitely not government funded.

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Now this is not government funded.

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So for people who say like, oh that he's taking a tour on our

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tax dollars, he's not taking a tour on our tax dollars, he'll

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tell you whose dollars, he is taking the tour on but it's not

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what he says. It is right here, I'm talk about

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while mock. My kids will never sit in the

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back of the bus. Now, he sounds like Forrest

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Gump. I said I want them to shape

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history just as Rosa Parks, did I to be Wells did in 1883, I

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mean, rose, that was echo of, I had to be Wells, moral

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leadership. You have to be something to do

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something. I mean, that's the spirit of

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this Museum. That's a spirit of these

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remarkable leaders. I think you're so fixated on

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waiting to be mayor. Sitting someone's waiting to be

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president. We know that, that's for sure.

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Because he's obviously done with being Governor, he's over being

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governor of California, he's like four or five months into

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his second term and he's already like, I'm over this Governor

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think, can I just travel the country and talk about myself

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like and how wonderful I am? If the world and want my kids to

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know, they have moral Authority, they have the ability to shape

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the future, and I think examples like this or enlivening and

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inspiring, and, and I just want him to understand again, not

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just intellectually, I want them to feel the congruence of sorts

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and emotional attachment head, and heart action passion.

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And so, being out here, you feel it in a different way.

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I mean, these the same streets, I was just the Legacy Museum,

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Bryan Stevenson, I mean it should be real.

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Acquirement. I'm not in.

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I know if everyone's fear when a Democrat, says, anything should

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be required. It's not a mandate, but it, you

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know, if I could and we know he loves those mandates.

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Every child, every law enforcement officer every Social

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Service, leader should be compelled to understand more

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fully. What?

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I was just privilege to experience and that's the

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history of our country, our nation and to understand in a

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deeper way. So we can push back against The

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Narrative of those that want to rewrite history that want to

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rewrite historical facts that have the audacity not only to

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promote it, but to actually, Really produce results in state.

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After state that are rolling back, these fundamental rights

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and banning books. Banning speech, criminalizing

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instruction, he loves this line about banning books in red

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States. It's one of his is favorite red

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herrings to say, like they're banning books in red States.

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You sent me an article about that, actually in California.

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They're banning a good amount of books in City of Burbank, they

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And five well-known titles. Huckleberry Finn the K Roll of

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Thunder. Hear Me Cry Hear My Cry and Of

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Mice and Men so California does its fair share of banning books

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as well. Was it to Kill a Mockingbird was

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also banned remember reading that but there is a if you don't

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watch this channel they're actually really funny.

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And I'm going to switch over real quick just for a quick

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little If you don't watch Freedom Tunes, they're actually

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really funny. It's funny that we were watching

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this came out literally today, so, this is the title of it.

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For audio is what liberals mean by book.

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Banning, I apologize to audio because you won't be able to

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watch it. Yeah, check this out.

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Hey what are you doing? Someone is trying to pass a box.

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What she wants to Bear my queer literature.

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Oh, so we've got a book Banner that's Judge.

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Shameful acts, that are telling him, he can't show port to my

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kid. Have you heard of a little thing

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called the First Amendment? Yeah, so much for free speech.

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How are you siding with this pervert?

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Definitely recommend you check it out.

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But I think he Nails it in the sense that liberals love to be

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like they're banning books in these states and it's just isn't

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it horrible? Isn't it shameful that?

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They're banning all these books and they just don't want people

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to read these books and it's like they're not Banning The

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Odyssey or The Iliad or Shakespeare or anything like

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that. They're usually most these red

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states are Banning books that are inappropriate for children

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to be reading and should not be on public libraries.

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They never talk about. Specifically, what books?

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They're banning. They just like to say they're

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banning books. Let's see what else he has to

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say, destruction, that's a serious threat to our democracy

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and our understanding of who we are and what we're capable of

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doing in the future. Now, part of what you're doing

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here is also meeting with up-and-coming Democrats, people

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who are running for office. They want to run for office.

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What are you hearing from them? And are they asking you to come

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back and campaign? For them, know what they're what

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they're saying is, you know, it's been amazing.

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I want to over state it but it's like, thank you and they

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thanking you for your Sources for your advice, giving a damn,

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you know, I'm not this is not the typical Road Show for

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Democrats. It's I have you, you know,

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better than anybody. It's not the 2024 map.

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Not, it's not a place where people like you spent a lot of

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time. Oh, and and we should and these

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were blue legislative States just a few years ago, just a few

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years ago 2010 here in Alabama and Mississippi Arkansas.

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We forget that wasn't a hundred years ago.

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Just a decade and a half ago and I feel like they feel abandoned.

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They really I think to I mean the folks I talked to her like

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thank you for caring. There's a lot more of us, they

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say that I'm one of us that people believe we're not red

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States. We're just not doing the hard

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work of a, I guess you could make the same argument here in

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California. There are a lot.

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More conservatives than people believe, like what's the stat

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that people love to throw out, which is that more people For

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Donald Trump in the last election here, in California

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than any other state, like more. Like, he got more Republican

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votes here in California than any other state, which is a

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pretty impressive number when you think about it, right?

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Right. But I just two things that stood

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out to me, this little serving it segment that you just one.

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There was a I took a screenshot of Kevin Kylie tweet because

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this whole standing up for democracy line that they like

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loved throw out Kevin Kylie, actually.

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Did you some could have let voters choose?

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Who would replace Kamala Harris in the Senate instead?

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He installed his, ah, his eye looks Padilla.

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Then he started talking about who lead a point.

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If Einstein resigned, this isn't democracy or its art, this isn't

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how democracy is supposed to work, right?

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For this democracy. Loving, man, he sure doesn't

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believe it own State and then when he, he's like, people are

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thinking me just for, for giving a damn, well, no, that's not how

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California business owners feel that were, you know, lost their

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businesses. The last three years we're not

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thanking him for giving a damn about us during these lockdowns.

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So I had, what I know from talking to other people.

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I'm sure seeing for you who live in other states, is that they

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couldn't even fathom. Like, if we traveled, even to

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other states, they couldn't fathom that like, wait,

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California still has that mandate.

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They still have that in place? We let go of that six months

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after you don't like It would like, could have Texas, you go

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to Oklahoma. And people are just like what?

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You're not to do this in California, yet they're still.

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They're still holding you to this.

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And so I suppose that there's people who were naive to what's

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going on in California, the last few years who might be thanking

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him. But those of us in than actual,

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no living through it. Like, Mmm.

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Yeah. And it's been done to that point

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about democracy. It's interesting because After

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the whole recall effort the legislature took drastic

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measures and made a big push to make it harder to get props and

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referendums and recalls qualified.

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So this idea of all we believe in democracy and and

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everything's a threat to democracy and you know, doesn't

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matter like you could pick something out of a hat and it's

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a threat to democracy but they're taking actions in

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California. To literally stop democracy,

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which is the Democratic vote of people to recall their leaders.

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Make a referendum on the laws which those were put into place

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during a progressive area. At the turn of the century and

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1900s to make the state more democratic.

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And now they're trying to roll back, those sort of democratic

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policies or Democratic tools for the people here in California.

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I'm getting out there and I'm not suggesting people aren't

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working hard. They are and I met them.

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Folks, but they just haven't gotten the memo.

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The cynicism memo, the fear and anxiety mental like working hard

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every single day and bottom up right.

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And they're just saying, you know, what glad a, you know, a

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Democrat from another state wants to sort of highlight the

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work and yeah, I have some resources.

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We were able to start this Pastime start resources, he

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makes it sound like he was able to Cobble together.

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A couple bucks for this pack. The guy just ten million dollars

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Yeah. No big deal.

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It's a federal pack. Correct, it words, it's a

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federal pack and he used what I read.

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I haven't seen because financials are not out yet, but

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what I read was that he used the leftover funds from his Governor

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campaign. So he transferred the Celtic,

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his State campaign fund into a federal pack.

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Yeah, makes sense. I mean, I don't think you spent

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that much in the last election anyway, so he probably still, I

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think you're sitting on like 24 million dollars in his War chest

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at the end of the end of it. Also, yeah, what's 10 million

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dollars between friends? So Is the few million dollars in

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just the last few days and I have the opportunity.

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What a gift to not to say, thank you for the word isn't but let

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me contribute wrong way. Let me see if I have this a

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federal pack like that can then can it transfer money again or

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it can be used to help a president like campaign for a

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presidential race, right? They can't coordinate but I

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believe that that could then be used to leave it.

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Can't right? I believe so.

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So I'm pretty sure if people don't remember.

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Way back around 2004-2005 or whatever.

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I think it was around that time. President Obama came out with a

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pack I think it was like America for America forward or something

00:22:24
like that. I can't remember the name of the

00:22:25
pack now and the idea was this sort of same thing which was I'm

00:22:30
gonna go around the country in organized and get Democrats

00:22:34
excited and I'm going to talk about all these great things and

00:22:37
the point of my package to help get Democratic leaders elected.

00:22:40
And then obviously he ran for president and then that pack

00:22:43
became sort of like his other pack.

00:22:45
And then There are a bunch of other products but it's sort of

00:22:48
the same game plan here which is you start this idealistic pack

00:22:53
use the pack to go around the country campaign for the pack,

00:22:58
which is really campaigning for yourself.

00:23:00
And then when it's time to run for president, you have this

00:23:03
pack already and you've established name recognition.

00:23:05
So right? I believe Larry Elders about to

00:23:09
do that, you know, Larry Elder had several million left over

00:23:12
for one. He ran in the governor recall in

00:23:15
California. Yeah, which then he started the.

00:23:18
I forgot what it was called something to save America.

00:23:21
Something like that packs that are four pack and now he's

00:23:25
running for president. And I believe that will now be

00:23:27
turned into a presidential his campaign.

00:23:31
Makes sense. They're not rewriting the book

00:23:35
here, but others to say, you know what, everything State

00:23:42
matters, everybody matters. And Democrats as well.

00:23:47
It's and they feel a little abandoned not by the national

00:23:51
party but abandon at a time of need by the progress in the

00:23:56
ruthlessness of the right and the need to feel like their

00:24:00
voice matters and we have their back during this very

00:24:03
challenging time. So you were just re-elected to

00:24:06
serve a second term. That's where some of the money

00:24:09
they came. He looks so sad about these

00:24:12
Democrats to ten million dollars.

00:24:14
If you were just elected for the second time.

00:24:15
So yeah, yeah. The big challenge is of course,

00:24:24
in your state, as there are never safe talked.

00:24:26
A lot that a lot of them homelessness recovering from

00:24:29
natural disasters. The cost of living, there are

00:24:32
some critics. I'm sure you're aware from your

00:24:34
state who have said, how can the governor of our state go travel

00:24:37
on this red state tour and spend resources and time there.

00:24:40
So what do you say to those? It's on my dime not theirs and

00:24:43
the time is my time, this is time.

00:24:45
Respectfully, with my family, this is the beginning of Easter

00:24:50
spring break over the weekend. So he says Says it's on his

00:24:54
dime. But we know it's not on his

00:24:57
dime, it's on the campaign for democracy packs time.

00:25:02
Yes, they just said that two sentences prior.

00:25:06
Yeah, they just said, hey, you gave all this money from your

00:25:09
campaign to this pack and now you're campaigning with this

00:25:14
pack around the country and he's trying to say, well it's really

00:25:18
on my dime. Oh poor Gavin.

00:25:20
Newsom the man who bought his 4 million dollar house and all

00:25:24
cash. Yes, I'm sure it's really rough

00:25:27
for you to travel around the state with your children.

00:25:30
So he plays it off as like This, I'm sacrificing and I'm a martyr

00:25:34
because I'm it's on my own dime and that's how important it is

00:25:36
to me. But also, it's a family

00:25:40
vacation, so I get to spend time with my kids, so, which is it

00:25:45
Gavin, is it time for a family vacation or is it, you are doing

00:25:48
this as a martyr to go out there and spread the good word of

00:25:51
progressivism. Well, they did go to the Bahamas

00:25:55
right after this war States. Yeah.

00:25:58
After it was all over. They kind of made like the nice

00:26:00
swing so that they were in the South and then they just ended

00:26:02
up in the Bahamas. I don't think anyone gave them

00:26:05
the noticed that the Bahamas is not part of the red South, but

00:26:10
maybe he was going there anyway to see if we can campaign some

00:26:13
more I don't know, it's a great sacrifice of time.

00:26:19
A lot of people are taking time with their family after four

00:26:22
years. We haven't had that opportunity,

00:26:24
this was a privilege and a gift and selfish one for me as a

00:26:27
father. I feel like last four years,

00:26:29
I've been spent a lot of time with my kids because a covid

00:26:32
mall the stress and so I made that commitment What was your

00:26:38
kids respond? Okay, Dad.

00:26:40
Let's just suggest this. I think there's a new drone that

00:26:43
I had to provide their so extra soccer cards.

00:26:46
That is the yeah, family inducement.

00:26:49
I want to say something a little gentle bribery to get them to

00:26:51
get them on. It's very weird, never get

00:26:53
through this. But remember, he canceled his

00:26:55
Scotland trip to spend time with his kids.

00:26:58
Like, everyone was speculating over.

00:27:00
He has covid. But he canceled, that trip to

00:27:02
have like a 10-day, family vacation over Halloween with the

00:27:04
kids. Yes.

00:27:06
Was that after he had an adverse reaction because of the vaccine.

00:27:13
Allegedly, allegedly allegedly. That's right.

00:27:15
Well, that's what people were saying and then he was.

00:27:19
Yeah, but he was, he was like, no, the kids really wanted us

00:27:22
here for Halloween. And we had to make that, you

00:27:26
know, we had to choose between them and going and we chose to

00:27:29
stay for 10 days to have a vacation with our kids.

00:27:34
How Noble of him? What a sacrifice.

00:27:38
It's nice to be able to bribe your kids with thousand dollar

00:27:41
drones or whatever. Little gentle vibrate.

00:27:48
And, you know, I just finished 18 events in five days in

00:27:51
California. I've sacrificed my heart and

00:27:53
soul for my state. And I take a back seat to no one

00:27:56
on that. So, I get it.

00:27:57
But I also don't get what's going on in this country.

00:28:00
I don't get why everybody is not doing what we're doing, I don't

00:28:04
understand it. The people understand it's not

00:28:05
just about Marla go, it's not just he actually just asked why

00:28:09
he doesn't understand why the rest of the country isn't doing

00:28:11
what we're doing as in like what California is doing.

00:28:15
I think that's what he was saying, but I'm still stuck on

00:28:19
the I just a to 18 events in five days in California.

00:28:23
That's your job. Gavin.

00:28:26
Congratulations for learning. What work is your the state of

00:28:31
California elected to the second term?

00:28:34
And I'm only just figuring out. I'm supposed to do events in

00:28:37
California. Wait till he becomes president.

00:28:40
He's got a full schedule. He's like, oh, I did ten events

00:28:43
and seven days. I'll Vice sacrifice JoJo.

00:28:50
Never told me that you had to do these many events.

00:28:52
He never did this many events. In Washington DC or what's

00:28:57
happening in New York Court for the district attorney.

00:29:01
There's something deep and serious.

00:29:04
It's happening across this country.

00:29:06
All the progress. We're trying to get through this

00:29:08
as best as we can, but the fact that he's like, the fact that

00:29:12
he's like, well, it's not all about Mara Lago and Mar-A-Lago,

00:29:16
and DC, and what's happening in the Manhattan?

00:29:19
DA's a look at what network you're on.

00:29:22
You're on MSNBC, whose whole Whole obsession is take down

00:29:28
Trump at all costs. You are your ratings have been

00:29:33
in the toilet. Since Trump has not been in

00:29:35
office because you have nothing to talk about.

00:29:38
You're definitely going to talk about Joe Biden and now you're

00:29:40
like well why are we only talking about this stuff?

00:29:45
I don't know. You're sitting across from

00:29:47
someone who works for MSNBC. Why don't you ask them?

00:29:50
Why is that the only thing we talked about all the time is

00:29:53
what's going on in trouble because they're upset.

00:29:55
That's what trouble. He's implying, you should be on,

00:29:58
MSNBC more. Like why are you guys talking

00:30:00
about that? There's a little story right

00:30:02
here me? Yeah, I'm the story that should

00:30:07
be talking all about me. He's it sounds like he's a

00:30:11
little jealous. The last half century has been

00:30:16
rolled back in these states in real time just the last few

00:30:19
years. I don't think people fully

00:30:21
understand the rights regression individual liberties on civil

00:30:25
rights and voting rights and the gerrymandering that's happening

00:30:29
out here on just the assault on the African-American Community

00:30:32
assault on the gay lesbian bisexual and trans Community.

00:30:35
Re Mandarin really Gavin you want to talk about

00:30:38
gerrymandering California, had these independent commission's

00:30:42
after the census where They're supposed to draw up new

00:30:44
districts. The first draft of districts

00:30:48
were actually pretty fair. And actually, pretty fair to

00:30:52
Republicans in the state in terms of the legislature in

00:30:55
Congress and all that stuff, they're supposed to be

00:30:58
independent. But once Democrats got a hold of

00:31:03
those Maps, there's a little outside pressure for them to go

00:31:07
back to the drawing board. Quite literally go back to the

00:31:10
drawing board and make these districts more favorable to us.

00:31:14
So let's not talk about gerrymandering because

00:31:17
California might be one of the worst offenders when it comes to

00:31:21
pretending. Like they have these independent

00:31:23
commission's. But not really, because the

00:31:26
Democrats can then just push a lot of power on you and you'll

00:31:30
make Districts that you want to say.

00:31:32
So just want to make that quick little point about

00:31:35
gerrymandering. There's so many points here, I

00:31:37
mean we're seven minutes and of a 34 Minute overview will try to

00:31:42
get through as much as possible. The number one issue, the date

00:31:46
seems to be getting the reward Latin X in Arkansas.

00:31:50
Okay, okay, okay. As the husband of someone who is

00:31:59
a proud Latina Nothing makes her skin crawl more.

00:32:07
And make her want to throw chanclas around the room and X.

00:32:12
Okay. She hears that word and she

00:32:15
swears up a storm that nobody wants to be called Latin X every

00:32:21
time she hears that word. So the fact that he's like just

00:32:26
red states, don't want to say Latin X.

00:32:30
Yeah, Latinos don't want to say Latin X.

00:32:33
I think it was like three percent of Latinos, in America,

00:32:37
actually identify with the world.

00:32:41
It's very low to the point where Democrats are like, we should

00:32:44
probably back off this because it's not doing us any favors.

00:32:48
So, it's interesting. He has this righteous

00:32:52
indignation about red States. Not wanting to say Latin X

00:32:57
Latinos in you're very blue State.

00:32:59
Don't want to Latin X either. So maybe just take that off the

00:33:03
board. Goes, it's a serious moment in

00:33:11
American history and yet were so consumed respectfully by the

00:33:15
spectacles in Washington that I as an American feel compelled as

00:33:20
a governor to call that out and expose some of that in a more

00:33:24
systemic way and forgive me for being intense about this.

00:33:27
But everything I have taken for granted in my life, you know?

00:33:33
That's a century in terms of Rights expansion, not even bring

00:33:36
up all of that. All of that is in Peril at this

00:33:39
moment. In my kids, they need if I care

00:33:43
about my kids, I sure as hell better care about what's going

00:33:46
on in Alabama? What's going on in Mississippi

00:33:49
and Arkansas? And you know what?

00:33:51
I'm coming back a much better Governor, because I spent a long

00:33:54
weekend with my kids here, I do want to ask you about all of

00:33:56
that because I agree with you and there's things happening and

00:33:59
States. But why is it a concern?

00:34:04
The idea of states in America. Okay, the idea of why do we have

00:34:11
states? And why do we believe in

00:34:13
statehood and state power is the idea that States can be their

00:34:18
own little Laboratories of this experiment.

00:34:21
We call a constitutional republic.

00:34:25
And the idea is that the states can try out different policies

00:34:29
and people can vote with their feet on how these policies are

00:34:33
going if your kids stay in Bay area of California.

00:34:42
They should not have to give a rat's ass about what's happening

00:34:47
in Alabama because they're not going to be affected by what's

00:34:52
happening. Alabama, just don't go to

00:34:54
Alabama, like that's the bottom line and if you and if people

00:34:57
think what Alabama is doing is backwards or stupid people won't

00:35:02
stay in Alabama, they'll go somewhere else.

00:35:05
But this idea of like, well, I better care what's going on in

00:35:08
Alabama, because I got to protect my kid.

00:35:12
Kids, your kids are Silverspoon privilege little kids, who will

00:35:17
live in Northern California in the Bay Area, Marin County, or

00:35:21
wherever you want to live Napa Valley.

00:35:24
For the rest of their lives. They never have to worry about

00:35:26
anything. They will never have to ever

00:35:29
step foot in Alabama ever again and they will never be affected

00:35:32
by their policies. So this idea of like, I have to

00:35:36
go out and teach Alabama, lesson is like such a progressive

00:35:41
California way of thinking of like, it's my duty to go out and

00:35:46
spread the good word of California progressivism to

00:35:48
Alabama, because they don't know what's wrong, and I have to come

00:35:52
save it. So It's a, it's definitely a

00:35:56
California thing. Go ahead.

00:35:59
And I know we can't, like I always say this all the time,

00:36:03
but he's talking about, you know, this so Port.

00:36:07
What's going on in? Alabama, and go back to

00:36:09
California because it's really freaking important that while

00:36:12
you're in Alabama, were still our schools are still failing

00:36:17
and know your kids, don't go to those schools.

00:36:19
But most of the kids in California, do go to the

00:36:22
schools. Those schools are still failing,

00:36:24
there is people. There is homeless all over the

00:36:27
streets, who can't afford housing and Are causing

00:36:30
problems, not saying oh homes people cause problems.

00:36:33
But there's there's big problems there.

00:36:35
Those are the problems that are affecting your kids, and the

00:36:37
people that elected, you Governor go home, Gavin, and fix

00:36:42
the problems at home and stop worrying about the Rosa Parks

00:36:46
Museum. Yeah, I think that's the biggest

00:36:51
faux pas that he doesn't really see.

00:36:54
Not understand, although people who support him, love what he's

00:36:58
doing with this, but I think most people are kind of like, we

00:37:02
have enough problems here in California and we kind of joke

00:37:04
about at the beginning of the podcast that this tour made it

00:37:09
seem like up. That's it.

00:37:11
Newsom, solved, California. He fixed everything and now

00:37:14
everything's so perfect. He has all this time to

00:37:17
campaign. Around the country in the in

00:37:19
these red States and tell him what a great job I did when

00:37:24
California is still an absolute mess.

00:37:27
So, Let's keep going. Cracking down on people's

00:37:34
rights. We are sitting here in a

00:37:36
historic. Sadly, a historic moment in our

00:37:38
country where the former president of the United States

00:37:41
is being arraigned. Boy.

00:37:45
I wonder why we keep talking about what's going on tomorrow.

00:37:48
Log of, when Jen sake, ask a question about the former

00:37:53
president getting indicted Boys II can't understand.

00:37:56
Why are we so obsessed with Mar-A-Lago?

00:37:58
And what's going on in Manhattan?

00:38:02
When the the host of the or the interviewer here, just brings up

00:38:05
the question about Donald Trump. And waiting for there to be some

00:38:14
accountability here for the former president.

00:38:16
Do you are you one of them who's been waiting for that?

00:38:19
Yeah, I haven't read the indictment.

00:38:20
So sure. I'm for accountability, wherever

00:38:24
lay, I'm for responsibility. Regardless of status countywide

00:38:28
course, kind of got caught at the front longer.

00:38:30
French Laundry spending fifteen thousand dollars of your oil,

00:38:35
lobbyists buddies money when covid-19 locked down and

00:38:38
everything like that that sort of We just want to make sure

00:38:42
we're, we're all clear on that, idea of accountability.

00:38:46
Or going to Cabo and staying at the property of a Russian

00:38:52
oligarch when we're supposed to hate Russia.

00:38:56
That sort of accountability is that the accountability we're

00:38:58
talking about, I just want to make sure we're all on the same

00:39:00
page. Different.

00:39:06
Different accounts added by it. Well this thinking it's just

00:39:10
sad, it's sad. I mean, I'm not even making this

00:39:13
up before I come here to the Rosa Parks Museum in Alabama,

00:39:18
before I come here to visit with Bryan Stevenson Legacy Museum,

00:39:22
talking about lynching and slavery.

00:39:24
Which by the way, Kurt and my state, the state of California

00:39:28
labor into persist her California.

00:39:32
Just so we're all clear slavery did not occur.

00:39:42
And the assaults against the African-American community at

00:39:44
this moment, I've been told what a porn star was.

00:39:47
Okay on TV. That's a little depressing and

00:39:50
distressing. Yeah.

00:39:51
Well, I'm trying to get him to focus on the world.

00:39:53
He's living in which to me is so much more profound than what's

00:39:58
being pronounced on the national news right now, not that, not

00:40:01
that, that's not consequential profoundly.

00:40:03
So, in the context of our body, politic in the future, but I'm

00:40:09
just trying to find some balance between that At and what's

00:40:13
happening all across this country, the racial Injustice

00:40:17
that occurs every single day where there's no accountability

00:40:20
where people are rolling back people's rights or demeaning

00:40:24
poor people demeaning people because they love differently

00:40:26
demeaning and Bully folks with intellectual disabilities.

00:40:29
Like that guy, Ron descent is attacking and threatening.

00:40:32
The Special Olympics going after Free Speech.

00:40:35
Banning any books again? I mean, that's a serious thing

00:40:38
as well, and I guess I'm just trying to find a little bit of

00:40:40
balance in the Context of the current politics that are

00:40:44
shaping least our national debate on how things are

00:40:47
impacting people's lives, very much which those issues are

00:40:50
impacting people a lot more. Now, you mentioned Florida,

00:40:54
Governor Ron De Santos. I do often.

00:40:56
I know you. I am full.

00:40:57
I know you a little bit over the course of the last Foley,

00:41:01
obsessed with him. I cannot get enough of Ron

00:41:03
DeSantis. Couple of years, not a fan, he

00:41:08
has had some responses of late that have been hugely

00:41:11
problematic offensive dangerous. One of them was going after the

00:41:15
Manhattan district attorney. Echoing the language of former

00:41:19
President Donald Trump with that threatening language suggesting

00:41:22
Democrats are weaponizing, the judicial system, but you also

00:41:26
are very astute political guy, do you think that is know that

00:41:30
the Democrats aren't weaponizing the judicial system?

00:41:33
They only came out with an indictment that could not name.

00:41:36
Name a crime but somehow expanded on 34 counts of a crime

00:41:41
but you can't name what the underlying crime is.

00:41:44
And it's actually mostly just a misdemeanor in a slap on the

00:41:47
wrist, but they're trying to turn it into a felony that could

00:41:50
spend seven to ninety four years in prison to jail a political

00:41:56
opponent. Not the Democrats, definitely

00:41:57
are not trying to weaponize the Judiciary.

00:42:06
It's smart politics, right? He's in primary.

00:42:08
No, I thought he looked weak. He just looked weak, weakness.

00:42:12
Masquerade me a strength. I watched all the folks out

00:42:14
there. There's Roger Stone types.

00:42:16
All those Mega guys outraged and upset.

00:42:18
The dissenters was a little slow being critical when the threat

00:42:22
of indictment was first exposed by Trump himself and they said

00:42:27
here's what he should have said. And there he does.

00:42:29
Comes back a few days later and literally parrots it weakness

00:42:33
masquerading as As strength, you saw that where the new sheriff

00:42:37
in town is no longer run to sheriff.

00:42:39
It's Mickey Mouse M IC ke y, Mo, you as he did, he call him Ron,

00:42:45
the sheriff. Yeah, he's competing with truck

00:42:50
now for nicknames. Rhonda Sheriff.

00:42:54
That's the only problem. Okay.

00:42:57
Him and Mickey Mouse M IC ke. Why he spelled it.

00:43:02
Otherwise I wouldn't have known. Yeah, I'm glad he almost sang

00:43:06
us, the entire song. For all those people who don't

00:43:10
spell Mickey Mouse. Weakness masquerading, as

00:43:17
strength, all over on the census, triumphs are about

00:43:20
demeaning and bullying. Vulnerable like at this part

00:43:23
what he is doing this. Just to get a rise out of round.

00:43:26
Two Santa's. This is definitely him trying to

00:43:30
bait Ron DeSantis into responding to him because for so

00:43:35
long. Rhonda Santa's just doing like

00:43:37
they were starting with guns for yes.

00:43:41
Yeah. Like they're already trying to

00:43:42
start their like Shadow debates as presidents and he's already

00:43:47
trying to let go on the attack against Ronda Santa's.

00:43:50
I think he's trying to bait Ron DeSantis into responding to him.

00:43:55
He's got an obsession with Ron DeSantis.

00:43:57
It's very weird that he just continually goes after him and

00:44:01
Ron doesn't really take the bait on most of it.

00:44:07
All in common, weakness masquerading as strength.

00:44:12
So if you are not advising Governor DeSantis, I know that.

00:44:15
But what is his political path here?

00:44:18
Should he be running away from criticizing Trump?

00:44:22
Should he be speaking up for the rule of law?

00:44:25
He's got to get rolled by Trump. Trump's is going to roll them

00:44:31
thumped. I honestly if I were offering

00:44:32
political advice, I tell him to pack up and wait a few years and

00:44:37
actually do some of the hard work, which actually I'm sorry,

00:44:39
what a burning not just identity and cultural.

00:44:41
This is Rich coming from a man, who's on a two-week vacation

00:44:45
through the red states. He wants to tell people about

00:44:47
governing and then he takes a quick vacation to the Bahamas.

00:44:52
He wants to talk about. California is in Dire Straits

00:44:57
but he wants to tell Ron DeSantis, that may be his best.

00:44:59
Be his advice is she should get back to governing.

00:45:03
As far as I remember, I can't think of the last time like the

00:45:06
scientist has left Florida. So, why would you want to just

00:45:14
go? I didn't know I was just so

00:45:18
great. California in Alabama, actually

00:45:24
govern if I was given. And but how did this interview

00:45:28
of Gavin's gonna like free? The red States.

00:45:30
Turn into Political advice for DeSantis.

00:45:36
I don't know. They just, I guess they're

00:45:39
trying to They're trying to drum up this.

00:45:43
Rhonda Santa's versus Gavin Newsom, and they're going to try

00:45:47
as hard as possible to turn this into.

00:45:50
It's funny that the, to these two are trying to, they're

00:45:53
trying to push these two to be presidential candidates when

00:45:56
there's already President Joe Biden, and former President,

00:46:00
Donald Trump are the two probably top contenders, right

00:46:03
now, they've just ignored those two in there.

00:46:05
Like now, we want to talk about Rhonda Sanchez and Gavin.

00:46:07
Newsom, it would make for really good TV, that's for sure.

00:46:11
Probably why they're pushing this idea of Newsom versus to

00:46:14
Santa's. Dr. Addressing these issues and

00:46:24
particularly cost a housing. These are very familiar.

00:46:27
I'm very honest housing. All, definitely be humbled by

00:46:30
the cost of housing. Understand the systemic problem

00:46:38
trouble, I'm the first to acknowledge I'm I'm My Own Worst

00:46:40
critic. I'd be working on some of those

00:46:42
basic things and expand Medicaid that the backs of folks out

00:46:46
there that need preventive care. I'd be focusing on the QT of the

00:46:49
environment Mother Nature, she bats last bats a thousand I know

00:46:53
that from being in Little Rock and wind down in Arkansas

00:46:57
rolling. I mean this is serious moment in

00:47:00
American history world history. I hope he would start to focus

00:47:03
on some of those issues that would be my advice. come back as

00:47:06
a more seasoned, and capable leader with a little humility,

00:47:12
which by the rectory, if I'm wrong, a little of who won their

00:47:16
election by a larger margin in their state, Was it was it Gavin

00:47:24
Newsom. Did he win his?

00:47:25
I get it go with I didn't go with the sheriff.

00:47:31
The Sharanda Sheriff, I believe won by a much larger margin than

00:47:34
Gavin Newsom did in his statement that must really burn,

00:47:39
Gavin Newsom that to Santos won in.

00:47:42
What is technically? It's not really a swing state

00:47:44
anymore. It's like bright red, one by so

00:47:47
much. And I think the stat was that

00:47:52
the gap between him. And Brian dolly was the smallest

00:47:55
gap between a Republican and Democrat since like and like the

00:48:00
past 10 years or something. So like it was actually the

00:48:02
smallest Gap that he won by this time.

00:48:06
Yeah, yeah, so that must be depressing for old noodles.

00:48:10
Yes. So, you have talks a lot about

00:48:18
your ability to work with Donald Trump and frankly, having worked

00:48:20
in the White House. I know when you're a governor,

00:48:22
you have to work with the president.

00:48:23
So a lots happened though, over the last couple of years, if

00:48:26
he's re-elected and I know you're going to say he won't be

00:48:29
and President. Biden will be done but just

00:48:31
let's just say if he's re-elected, will you still be

00:48:34
able to work with him? If it advances the cause of

00:48:38
helping me govern, the largest and most diverse state in

00:48:42
America? It's the size of 21 State,

00:48:44
populations come I don't like talking past people down.

00:48:51
I'm the people because they disagree with me.

00:48:52
I spend a disproportionate amount of time with the people

00:48:55
that try to recall me. We all want to be respected,

00:48:59
protected, connected. We all want to love.

00:49:01
We all need to be loved. We have so many foundational

00:49:03
values. So I say divorce is not an

00:49:06
option as The Clinton Library. Yesterday, I remember Clinton

00:49:09
talking, often. About fact, we should celebrate,

00:49:12
all our interesting differences and Democrats.

00:49:15
I think should listen to. This doesn't end there

00:49:18
celebrate. All are interesting differences,

00:49:19
comma And unite around the things that bind us together or

00:49:23
something Universal things about being human.

00:49:27
That I also think are important. And so I say this in the context

00:49:31
of the frame around Trumper all these folks, I mean I feel like

00:49:35
I'm pushing back. Yeah.

00:49:36
As I am sick of people, his rights being trampled on and I'm

00:49:39
going to push back but I'm not looking to go after these guys

00:49:43
for them looking to pick up a crowbar.

00:49:45
Put in the spokes of the wheel every single day but if they do

00:49:47
that to folks that I care about and things I value, and That I

00:49:51
feel like, you know, being too mean.

00:49:53
Yeah, I'm going to push back so open hand not a closed fist if

00:49:57
he's back but he won't be half as you were right here with that

00:49:59
answer. Just meant he's not going to

00:50:04
talk tough but he's also going to talk tough but he's also not

00:50:07
going to put a crowbar in the spokes of your bicycle but he's

00:50:11
also going to push back on you. I'm not really quite sure is.

00:50:15
Is he going to push back? Is he going to be tough with

00:50:17
President Trump? Or is he going to work with

00:50:19
President Trump? Leaf in advance.

00:50:27
Those were some of my favorite pictures when he had to come out

00:50:30
and like survey the forest fires, President Trump.

00:50:34
And then you see him and Gavin Newsom like walking through the

00:50:36
forest together, like this does just looks unnatural and he

00:50:40
actually has to like Be, he has to be kind of courteous to

00:50:46
President Trump. He can't just be sitting there

00:50:48
slinging insult. Like, he does from his Twitter

00:50:51
handle. That was always funny to see

00:50:54
him. Be humbled that like he needed

00:50:55
President Trump to come out and help.

00:51:00
That the question as you said it up.

00:51:02
Well, I wanted to give you an out there take away, something.

00:51:04
You might say, I've been through this before so I didn't will be

00:51:07
re-elected. You are an advisor, deservedly,

00:51:11
so Noah masterclass. There's just simply, you cannot

00:51:15
in modern times, I say this respected Peril.

00:51:18
Well, if some previous Democrats may be being a little insulted

00:51:25
by this, his legislative accomplishments, there's just

00:51:28
nothing that comes close to me. All across this country which is

00:51:33
another reason I already know who serves it but I will be

00:51:36
enthusiastically out there campaigning for know.

00:51:39
You pride yourself on going on the offense on a range of

00:51:42
issues. I mean here you are.

00:51:44
Do you look at Republicans have not critique Donald Trump,

00:51:48
obviously because of his legal, woes Democrats have also been

00:51:50
quiet for different reasons. Do you think democrats should be

00:51:54
going more on offense about some of the legal woes that Trump

00:51:58
has? I just I am I feel like that's a

00:52:01
lane that's got a traffic jam worse than the 45 for all the

00:52:04
either, who don't know that California joke because I'm the

00:52:09
governor of California. How do you mean?

00:52:15
I just I mean like everybody's the I think they are.

00:52:18
We are the media is makes 24/7 wall-to-wall.

00:52:22
It's wall-to-wall 24/7 and I think this is just an

00:52:25
Off-Broadway production in Manhattan.

00:52:28
The main show is what's coming next.

00:52:30
These other diceman that seems very real.

00:52:33
Do you think it would be easier if it was or more palatable from

00:52:36
a message perspective? If it was we're talking about

00:52:38
Indian January 6th and his role of course, going to be.

00:52:42
I love I was watching. As people would ask that

00:52:45
question. Well, it is, what is it forward

00:52:47
a little bit? See if I can get to some of the

00:52:49
other person stuff because I just kind of rambling or some

00:52:52
poetic. Yeah.

00:52:56
Are the people here. Scare the pollen Florida yeah

00:52:59
that overwhelmingly oppose that position?

00:53:00
Okay, majority of NRA members, you know, probably oppose that

00:53:05
position do background checks Novak Novak right.

00:53:09
None really? I mean no traffic.

00:53:13
No training. Why would we do that?

00:53:14
We got, which is what permit must carry me to Progressive

00:53:20
dingbats who don't know nothing about Firearms.

00:53:23
Talking about Firearms, first off permanently, scary does not

00:53:27
mean. You can walk around with a

00:53:30
weapon of War as they like to call it like an AR-15.

00:53:33
Usually, what that means is you are allowed to buy a gun which

00:53:37
you still have to go through. Background check this still part

00:53:39
of the federal background. Check once you purchase that

00:53:42
gone permanently scary is also called constitutional carry,

00:53:46
which means you don't have to go through a process like you do

00:53:50
here in California where you get a little license.

00:53:54
Little card that says you are authorized to carry a firearm on

00:53:58
you permit. Liz Carey basically means, the

00:54:00
Constitution says you have a right to bear arms, guess what?

00:54:03
You can buy your gun legally with a background check.

00:54:08
And you can carry that gun legally and you don't need a

00:54:12
license from the state because the Constitution already says

00:54:15
you have that, right? So there's no reason to.

00:54:17
So the fact that they're talking across each other, he's talking

00:54:20
about weapons of war and no background checks and she's like

00:54:23
and that's what permit Le scary is.

00:54:25
Is I, basically, you can walk around with, with no background

00:54:28
check and you can just carry around an AR-15 or weapon of War

00:54:32
as they like to call it because it's a big scary Black Gun.

00:54:37
Who. I love hearing Gavin.

00:54:40
Newsom talk about California, Democrats talking about guns is

00:54:43
one of the funniest things because it might as well be like

00:54:46
me talking about, like microbiology, which I know

00:54:48
nothing about. Stream, that's what's happened?

00:54:53
Of course, not surprised. A guy doesn't believe that a

00:54:56
young girl should have the freedom to do determine our own

00:55:02
reproductive future. It has to Bear the child of a

00:55:05
rapist in the name of freedom, without the exception of rape

00:55:09
and incest. I mean, that's what we're

00:55:11
getting from these folks. So look, it sickens.

00:55:13
Me and my cord, I'll tell you and you would have more insight

00:55:17
than anybody so you can validate.

00:55:21
What I've been in Tennessee triggered this trip.

00:55:25
Just called the White House. Full disclosure.

00:55:29
I can't. I was given speech.

00:55:37
Monterey and Salinas. I gave it prior down, and

00:55:40
Gilroy. And when I was mayor, we see the

00:55:43
dance Walden. I mean, I can't, I just can't

00:55:47
take it. I can't take it.

00:55:49
And then to see the same Governor's need to talk about

00:55:52
mental health, you know, unique apparently America to talk

00:55:55
about, you know, our parents, our family.

00:55:57
I mean, all the beat us and then they claim to care about life.

00:56:01
When the number one, cause of death for our children is guns.

00:56:06
Shaver. Their shame but you know guns to

00:56:09
core into Democrats. Let's not talk about obesity

00:56:12
level. I think I tweeted about this

00:56:16
last week, how it's incredible that Democrats have somehow and

00:56:23
I applaud them for their clever and cunning They somehow took

00:56:28
the shooting of children at a Christian School by someone, who

00:56:33
identifies as trans and turned it into their own talking point.

00:56:40
I have to give him credit like Republicans, can't do that.

00:56:43
Like Republicans can't take a story and turn it into a

00:56:45
national story that benefits them.

00:56:48
But the fact that Gavin Newsom is like, is the shooting in

00:56:52
Tennessee, is what prompted this trip.

00:56:56
So the shooting done, by someone who identifies, as trans of

00:56:59
Christian children, that's what prompted you to go on this trip.

00:57:03
You were so distraught over, Christian children being killed

00:57:06
by a trans individual. Is that what prompted, this trip

00:57:08
Gavin or did, are you using this as a another argument for more

00:57:13
gun control more gun reform? It's impressive how they flip

00:57:20
this around, but no one ever wants to talk about that.

00:57:23
They don't even talk about the shooter anymore.

00:57:26
They don't. Talk about what our hail or

00:57:28
whatever. They don't want to release the

00:57:29
manifesto because God forbid, we don't want to see what's in the

00:57:32
manifesto. But they've turned it into their

00:57:36
own talking point. So kudos to them.

00:57:40
Also, it had this happen to California and the shooter lived

00:57:45
Newsome would be fighting for the release of that person from

00:57:48
prison in a matter of years. Well, if they were trans.

00:57:53
Yeah, well, if he's not really like people to be in prison in

00:57:57
California, I mean even those with the worst of the worst

00:58:01
crimes, he's like and they served their time.

00:58:03
Let's let him go back into society now.

00:58:05
Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:07
He would, definitely not be trying to keep them behind bars

00:58:11
and if they were trans he probably give him a pardon.

00:58:15
Yeah. But it is amazing to me that

00:58:18
they've turned this whole Tennessee shooting.

00:58:20
Going into their talking point. So, Painful.

00:58:32
And it should shock our souls, but it's becoming so normal.

00:58:36
It's a matter of hours now, not even days.

00:58:39
I mean, I thought we would never, I'm buff.

00:58:41
Hello. I had to read the manifesto.

00:58:44
I read the manifesto from the shooter and buffalo.

00:58:48
I see you read the shooter from the you read the manifesto from

00:58:51
the shooter in Buffalo. So why can't we see the

00:58:55
manifesto from the shooter in Tennessee?

00:59:00
Hmm. Is it because it might be

00:59:03
damaging to your stance on the trans Community?

00:59:08
Maybe Still have chills thinking about that Manifesto to

00:59:13
understand this. This is serious, the manifesto

00:59:17
allegedly for the shooter in Tennessee, all connected.

00:59:21
This broader contagion, they don't care about our kids

00:59:24
because if they did they'd ban these damn weapons of war, they

00:59:27
would have background checks. They require some common damn

00:59:30
sense. They don't.

00:59:31
So, you know what those kids that were there in the capital?

00:59:34
God bless every single one of them.

00:59:36
In the spirit of Rosa Parks in the spirit of the greats.

00:59:40
Plato, if there's any hope for the future, those with lanterns

00:59:43
will pass them on to others, that should give you optimism

00:59:46
about our nation because that's still alive.

00:59:49
And we have to continue to believe that and not give up for

00:59:54
those who are wondering, if you're in a capital unlawfully

00:59:59
and you're trespassing, and you're protesting gun control,

01:00:03
or you want more gun control, that is Noble and fantastic and

01:00:08
should be applauded as the next coming of Martin Luther King, if

01:00:12
you were invited in by Capitol Police and you walk calmly

01:00:18
through velvet ropes and you don't break anything.

01:00:22
That's an Insurrection to take over our country just so we're

01:00:25
all clear. I just want to make sure that

01:00:27
sooner I just want, well, I want to make sure we're all clear,

01:00:31
you know, theirs. There are you have to be able to

01:00:36
tell your insurrections from from the non insurrections?

01:00:40
Yeah for sure that was not an Insurrection feel like we should

01:00:44
have shirts. Not you and I but like it's like

01:00:49
I this is an instruction, this is not you know like we really

01:00:53
need shirts to differentiate. Yeah maybe Billboards Billboards

01:00:58
might help so people can get educated like paid for Paperwork

01:01:03
State of California and campaign for democracy.

01:01:07
Now, you know, these statistics better than anyone to, I mean,

01:01:10
what I can never wrap my head around is the fact that

01:01:14
policies, like Universal background checks are supported

01:01:16
by the vast majority of the country red flag, laws supported

01:01:20
by the vast majority of the country, not even a there.

01:01:23
Most certainly not red flag laws, once people know what they

01:01:27
are. Most certainly not supported by

01:01:30
a vast majority that is ridiculous.

01:01:33
And the whole idea of universal background checks is Didn't

01:01:37
because anyone who buys a firearm still has to go through

01:01:40
a federal background check. So, They keep throwing Universal

01:01:44
background, check around, which is, I guess they're their next

01:01:48
step towards a. I mean, we're already once you

01:01:51
buy a gun, it's already registered with all these

01:01:53
states. So they just want a federal

01:01:55
registration of who has all the guns.

01:01:57
So, Yeah. This latest report by the

01:02:07
majority of the path skies are wholly owned subsidiary, is

01:02:11
special enough money. Yeah, money.

01:02:14
And raising power threats threats.

01:02:16
Threat of money being used. It's not just always what you

01:02:18
see. It's the things that are behind

01:02:19
the scenes that are more impactful the threat of going.

01:02:22
After the also side note, what was the length?

01:02:25
I have yet to meet a gun owner or someone who was pro-second

01:02:30
Amendment, who is an NRA member. So I feel like most people who

01:02:36
are pro-second Amendment actually don't like the NRA

01:02:39
because they, they concede on a lot of things.

01:02:43
So this they always create this Boogeyman of like, oh, the NRA

01:02:46
is out there and that they're pushing all this gun pro-gun

01:02:50
stuff. I don't know, I don't think a

01:02:54
lot of Second Amendment. People actually support their

01:02:56
inara but they got to keep the boogeyman going.

01:03:01
The lynching about out here wasn't just about the direct

01:03:04
assault on an individual and their family was about sending a

01:03:09
message to the rest of the community about power and

01:03:11
control dominance. And aggression, boy, those are

01:03:14
things you're hearing from these Republican Governors power

01:03:17
dominance and aggression. Where's the empathy care

01:03:20
collaboration partnership doesn't exist doesn't persist

01:03:23
right now and that's the core of this.

01:03:25
And, you know, representative democracy, it's rather damn,

01:03:29
galling way. These things are All these

01:03:32
things are connected and that sucks.

01:03:34
Hierarchical structure. By the way you really start to

01:03:37
appreciate, that's not some new kind gestures are on point here

01:03:40
in the South. You start to understand the

01:03:43
systemic sides of the sorry, Rhonda centers.

01:03:47
You know, 8p African-American studies some indoctrination

01:03:51
really want to go back to my point about he's talking about

01:03:55
Alabama and how there were lynchings of African Americans

01:03:59
at the time. Also this is an excellent freeze

01:04:02
frame that I paused it on. Good good face by Gavin.

01:04:06
Newsom here. Hey Gavin, do you know what

01:04:11
protected African Americans during Reconstruction Era?

01:04:16
When there were right, white races, who wanted to Lynch them

01:04:20
and kill them and harm their families.

01:04:23
What do you think protected? Those African Americans from

01:04:28
that happening? What do you think happened?

01:04:32
Oh God. I'll take guns for 500 fellow.

01:04:38
That would be correct. In fact, there was efforts by

01:04:42
those in the north to try and get more Firearms to freed

01:04:46
slaves in the South because they knew that they needed to protect

01:04:51
themselves. And in fact, if you read the

01:04:53
Bruin decision, which came out last year, which was a huge,

01:04:57
Second Amendment case, just as Thomas went into this whole

01:05:00
history about how integral it was.

01:05:04
That freed African American slaves had to or had to we can

01:05:08
actually carry firearms on themselves to protect themselves

01:05:12
in the Reconstructionist South. So it's part of our history.

01:05:16
When he talks about, you know, these lynchings happened here in

01:05:20
the South and how horrible was it?

01:05:23
But you know what? Helped protect During those

01:05:27
times was the right to protect yourself with Firearms.

01:05:31
So the thing he's demonizing is the thing that saved a lot of

01:05:36
those people back then and that's if we want to know about

01:05:40
history and then I'm rewriting history, they're doing a good

01:05:44
job of rewriting history that the Second Amendment didn't

01:05:46
matter. In that Firearms were not

01:05:49
helpful to any freed African American slaves During the

01:05:52
Reconstruction South About the kids that are compelled in

01:05:59
Germany to understand the Holocaust.

01:06:01
Never again, what do we have comparable in our own country?

01:06:06
To start to understand how? All of this is connected?

01:06:10
The poll tests how many seeds in a watermelon?

01:06:13
Can't answer it, can't vote. And how many how many people

01:06:16
even know that does that make my kid feel uncomfortable learning

01:06:21
that Is that some, I mean, this is a serious moment and I think

01:06:26
you're right to call out the absurdity that disconnect

01:06:30
between what the public is and these red State politicians that

01:06:33
continue to deny that voice and a rational approach to dealing

01:06:39
with this only in America Merc endemic or epidemic.

01:06:46
Now you touched on this, there's a cultural issue right with guns

01:06:49
in the fear that Democrats like you valid reason to take away

01:06:54
people's guns, there's also an argument that even some

01:06:57
Democrats make about an assault weapons ban that the Second

01:07:00
Amendment the Constitution gives you the right to have an assault

01:07:07
weapon. It does.

01:07:08
It's right there. It's something Amendment for

01:07:10
that first. It was difficult.

01:07:12
The well, Ray big lie apart. The right to bear an AR-15

01:07:17
platform right there in the Constitution.

01:07:19
I that breeding the constant. Well, that was the one that was

01:07:22
sent to me by the ushers in the right.

01:07:24
I get all that, by the way, I went out.

01:07:26
So I thought this would be interesting when out with a guy

01:07:32
- you want to skip over the well-regulated militia.

01:07:38
And get right to the right to bear arms.

01:07:43
Is he trying to hide the ball on there or something?

01:07:47
He really doesn't know what it is, like the way that you're

01:07:51
talking about, it it seemed to me like he was like, I don't

01:07:54
even know what they're talking about, so I can't talk about

01:07:56
this. Yeah, I think he he didn't want

01:08:00
to get into the Weeds on what that first Clause of the second

01:08:04
amendment was a well-regulated militia.

01:08:07
He doesn't want to get into that.

01:08:10
Yeah. His little joke about how, you

01:08:13
know, the Constitution that the RNC sent me different than the

01:08:16
real Constitution. You just quoted the same.

01:08:19
Yeah, Second Amendment. So I guess the one RNC sent you

01:08:22
was the same exact Constitution. Decided to shoot 23 platforms,

01:08:30
have guns, but I started with an Old Musket, I'm still stuffing

01:08:34
in the thigh and I shot. I missed the Target by the I

01:08:38
ended with Gatling guns. And AR and just 30 rounds.

01:08:43
This is insane ready to go from that founding fathers, construct

01:08:49
that this to have judge Nelson. Federal judge in the state of

01:08:53
California. A, the AR-15 platform to Swiss

01:08:56
Army knife Go ahead to have to list.

01:09:03
Okay. Yeah, the musket the musket and

01:09:09
how we can't even get it, anywhere near the target then he

01:09:13
goes on and then you know I'm up to the are 15 30 rounds he makes

01:09:17
it sound like it could hold 30 rounds.

01:09:22
They can't not in California. Yeah, it's a legal, right?

01:09:27
What's wrong? Round and round smacks?

01:09:30
Yep, but also the musket, when he's like, he can't shoot it

01:09:35
straight, isn't that? Because that's a really old gun

01:09:39
and a we have since modernized guns to be more accurate, which

01:09:43
is safer if it's more accurate and then.

01:09:47
So we just kind of skipped over the fact that like this must

01:09:50
get, you could think you're pointing at here and it's just

01:09:52
You know, going off, who knows where.

01:09:54
And then they, he's like an AR-15 30 rounds, okay?

01:09:58
He could have shot their day around.

01:09:59
Certainly if he reloaded twice, but he didn't sit there and just

01:10:04
shoot off 30 rounds in 30 seconds.

01:10:08
Right? So he sort of proved his point

01:10:12
that the AR-15 is safer than the musket.

01:10:17
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole argument that I have about this

01:10:21
whole handgun, roster, that California has, which is that,

01:10:25
oh, you have to have all these things on it and you can't be on

01:10:28
the handgun. Roster, unless you have all

01:10:30
these like crazy things that like most handguns, don't have

01:10:34
that, they pay, they purposely make it really hard to be on the

01:10:37
handgun. Roster.

01:10:38
They're like you know your handgun has to throw up a red

01:10:43
flag after it's done with all its rounds and people will be

01:10:48
like that doesn't exist well then you can't be on our handgun

01:10:50
roster and the ironic thing is that they say Well it has to

01:10:55
have all these features so it's safer. but a lot of handguns, I

01:10:59
think we talked about this with us although he when he was on

01:11:01
one time of trigger ology where you have a lot of handguns that

01:11:07
are two or three generations old and handguns have gotten every

01:11:13
generation, they get safer, they get more accurate, but

01:11:17
California is holding back that safety for its citizens, but to

01:11:21
your point, you're right in the AR is, Safer because as opposed

01:11:27
to a musket that you can just fire and it just goes anywhere

01:11:31
and there's a whole different thing about physics and why the

01:11:34
rifle is better than a musket. But yeah, it's in his whole idea

01:11:39
of 30 rounds. You can't fire, 30 rounds in

01:11:42
California. So, maybe with law enforcement,

01:11:47
you can because they don't really abide by the same citizen

01:11:51
rules we do. But by Don't fire. 30 rounds,

01:11:57
right away, right? I'd have to lick.

01:11:59
You said, I have to reload and that's another thing.

01:12:03
They want to work on as they don't want you to have the quick

01:12:06
detach magazines. So you can't quick reload.

01:12:09
That's another thing they want to do but that's for another day

01:12:15
and the fact that he says like this is insanity, this is like

01:12:18
one of the dumbest arguments Democrats and progressives make

01:12:24
about And it is quite literally. It's so asinine to me that they

01:12:32
continue to make this argument people continue to believe it

01:12:35
where they go will the founders, when they wrote the Second

01:12:38
Amendment, it was only for like my skids and like, if you want,

01:12:44
then it should just protect muskets.

01:12:46
It's like no, there are plenty other Firearms.

01:12:51
There were rifles. There were thought there were

01:12:55
guns that shot multiple rounds. This was not new to the

01:13:00
founders. These ideas of rifles guns, that

01:13:03
show shot multiple rounds, pistols.

01:13:06
All that stuff. You can basically Trace all of

01:13:09
these guns that we have today. Back to those guns.

01:13:13
Sure. They're faster.

01:13:14
They're better that's technology.

01:13:16
But yeah, the same argument and you can always make the same

01:13:21
easy argument, which is, well if that's the case, then guess

01:13:24
what? The First Amendment doesn't

01:13:25
apply to the internet doesn't apply to phone companies, do The

01:13:28
TV doesn't apply to the radio. It doesn't apply to like that

01:13:31
stuff wasn't around when the founders were around.

01:13:34
Now, all of a sudden. Now, all of a sudden it's like

01:13:37
they hate originalist judges and textualist judges on the Supreme

01:13:42
Court. But when it comes to the Second

01:13:44
Amendment, all of a sudden progress has become the biggest

01:13:48
original, this in the world and say well, that wasn't the

01:13:51
original intent and that you should only be able to have

01:13:53
muskets. So but it's a, you know, this is

01:13:59
MSNBC, so he's playing to the crowd who's going to lap it up

01:14:02
and be like, yeah, absolutely. Of course, I'll watch a couple

01:14:05
more minutes and then we got to wrap it up because it's already

01:14:09
been an hour and 15 minutes. They can't even identify these

01:14:15
young kids except by their sneakers and their DNA. because

01:14:22
their heads are blown off the up there, defending that I'm all

01:14:28
for the right center at and come down.

01:14:31
Well, they're wrong. And with all due respect, I

01:14:36
humble man, that's my position and he gets the vast majority of

01:14:39
American public position. Weapons of war, proprietary

01:14:42
should be in the hands of those that are trained.

01:14:45
And those that are protecting our liberties and freedom more

01:14:49
Polly an individual. Try to say this as calmly as

01:14:55
possible. An AR-15 is not a weapon of war

01:15:04
and is not what the military uses.

01:15:08
Thank you. That was a very calm.

01:15:12
That was about as calm as I was going to get.

01:15:15
As that was me calming down and saying that, I've just I've

01:15:19
check out our notes real quick to see if there's anything, we

01:15:21
should see up to on here. Go ahead.

01:15:25
Sorry. Did we miss the abortion part?

01:15:27
I don't know if we miss the abortion part.

01:15:28
I'm not sure that's why because I think I was making notes in

01:15:32
chronological order. So I'm just checking Just.

01:15:37
Yeah, go ahead opposition. The feeling nervous.

01:15:41
When I get my kids, a kiss. Goodbye in the morning when

01:15:44
they're sent off to school. What the hell will happen next?

01:15:46
Or the fact they come back and they talk to me about their

01:15:49
drills where they're hiding under their desks.

01:15:51
Like, I hid under mine during Soviet Cold War.

01:15:55
It's insane. Like, you know what he could do?

01:15:59
If he doesn't want that to happen to his kids.

01:16:02
He could homeschool them. He could certainly afford to

01:16:08
homeschool his kids. Right.

01:16:13
We don't like that in the state of California, because that

01:16:16
would be giving parents way too much authority over their own

01:16:20
children, and they're not trained to teach their children.

01:16:24
And then we're going to have a whole lot of Republicans in

01:16:27
doctor nating their children with some really extremist

01:16:30
ideas. So I wouldn't recommend that you

01:16:33
mentioned that again. Okay, taboo against the terms of

01:16:39
service. Community guidelines violation

01:16:44
for doing the same thing since Roe was overturned.

01:16:47
I mean, in long before that, but you've been a very local

01:16:49
advocate for abortion rates and access and a number of States.

01:16:52
Since then, this is where people may not be paying attention.

01:16:55
Have put in place additional restrictions mean, Idaho, is in

01:16:58
the process of trying to ban Interstate travel for women

01:17:01
seeking an abortion and to also hurt doctors, you know, to to

01:17:06
have a doctors would also be penalized.

01:17:09
And to me, this is just a commentary on June.

01:17:12
That she's gotten this far in her career.

01:17:17
To be one, she was the press secretary for the president of

01:17:21
the United States. And two, she now has a lucrative

01:17:26
gig on MSNBC. One of the major networks

01:17:29
interviewing the governor of California whoever else she

01:17:31
wants. She cannot formulate a coherent

01:17:36
question. She is all over the place.

01:17:41
Bouncing from thing to thing, to thing, to thing to thing.

01:17:44
And something you listen to her questions, she was like, what

01:17:47
are you youichi interjects point?

01:17:49
She ended up this to she and her checks facts that aren't true,

01:17:55
most of its opinion. It's not a real question.

01:17:58
So I just want to make that little commentary before we get

01:18:02
into this place. I see topic.

01:18:03
All right. In Florida, they are in the

01:18:07
process of passing. A six-week ban for abortion

01:18:12
access. So what do you what do you say

01:18:15
to the women in these states and Idaho and Florida and other

01:18:18
states? Where additional restrictions

01:18:56
Being in that space where or see a DOT abortion?

01:19:00
Dot-gov ago, we put out a website with all of toolkit we

01:19:05
started doing. Can't do it and how we can

01:19:07
provide a true star and see a dotted portion dot-gov?

01:19:13
Yeah, yeah. Well, we're gonna get a little

01:19:17
started because this is we have to talk about this topic.

01:19:20
We're good. All right, starting that.

01:19:22
Now you got the Miffy decision. Let's hear a Ramble On for a

01:19:25
little shopping another. Again, it's these federal judges

01:19:29
which is a key component of the abortion pill, which more than

01:19:32
50 percent of women in this country rely on to get an

01:19:36
abortion nationalization of Rights, the expansion of Rights.

01:19:40
That's happened. Over the last 50 years.

01:19:42
This is the rights regression and it's not just happening.

01:19:45
But he at Red states only and that decision will begin to

01:19:50
nationalize what impact of these red State actions.

01:19:55
Now, will be felt across this country because they're

01:19:57
weaponizing, not just at a local jurisdictional level.

01:20:01
They're starting to weaponize the course, and that's exactly

01:20:04
what we're trying to remind Peril of.

01:20:06
And look, this is an interesting I want to say this really

01:20:10
quickly because the, the left likes to make it seem like

01:20:15
worsens just a Slam dunk issue. It's just something that like of

01:20:21
course, like 99% of Americans, think abortion should be legal

01:20:25
and like freely available. Abortion in this country has

01:20:29
never been a overwhelmingly popular topic with support.

01:20:38
Even before Roe was passed at the Supreme Court level.

01:20:44
Most the majority of States had strict restrictions on

01:20:47
abortions, which were voted on by state legislatures, which

01:20:51
were voted on by the people. So it was never this like really

01:20:56
popular thing when bro came out. Yeah, it became more popular

01:21:01
because row then for states to deal with it because there was

01:21:04
Roe v-- Wade and you can pass things that went against Roe v--

01:21:08
Wade but it was never the overwhelmingly super popular

01:21:13
slam dunk. Like, you know, like well if you

01:21:19
took a poll of Americans and said how many people like

01:21:21
puppies, they'd be like, well over Overwhelmingly amount of

01:21:24
people love puppies. The same thing about abortion is

01:21:29
it's not the overwhelmingly popular support they make it

01:21:33
seem that way and that you'd be stupid not to agree.

01:21:36
And now the fact that row v Wade has been struck down.

01:21:40
Now you're seeing the state's go back to the ability to restrict

01:21:44
abortion as they were prior to Roe v-- Wade because it was

01:21:47
never that popular to begin with in these red States.

01:21:50
So I just want to say that Gavin likes to pretend and that

01:21:53
everybody loves abortion and that they're going against the

01:21:56
grain. When in reality, they may not be

01:21:58
going against the grain. They may just be going with the

01:22:01
other half that you don't agree with.

01:22:04
So you want it to go off about California?

01:22:08
See a DOT abortion, dot-gov, I think we've talked about it

01:22:12
before on here but one that is a taxpayer, California taxpayer

01:22:18
funded website but on the website they actually have, they

01:22:22
do have if you want to you're trying to find a place like a

01:22:25
safe place to have an abortion. They have resources on there but

01:22:28
they actually have on there for you to report crisis.

01:22:31
Pregnancy centers, Because they are Miss information.

01:22:36
The state of California tax. Funders you me our funding.

01:22:43
people, its ability to report, a Crisis, Pregnancy Center, I, I

01:22:52
just I don't get it, I don't get it at all.

01:23:00
It's almost like there could be an argument to be made if your

01:23:05
tax dollars are going to fund the support of abortion and the

01:23:10
education of abortion which is against your could be against

01:23:14
your religious freedom and your religious rights that you don't

01:23:17
want to support it. But California thinks that this

01:23:25
is the number one issue. We all we got to throw all the

01:23:27
money at it and you know and typical California way.

01:23:31
They just don't seem to understand why don't why doesn't

01:23:34
everyone else agree with us? In that you should have

01:23:36
unfettered access to abortion and will use taxpayer money to

01:23:40
fly you from Alabama or Idaho, to California, get an abortion

01:23:46
and is there something really eerie about like when he was

01:23:49
celebrating? That they secured?

01:23:51
Two million doses of this drug. Yeah, yeah, Mike.

01:23:57
So you've just admitted that you have secured, the means to and

01:24:03
two million lives like boy, Hitler, and Pol Pot would be

01:24:09
super proud of the fact that you're at that excited about

01:24:11
killing or ending 2 million lives.

01:24:14
So, it's just a really, it's just really weird.

01:24:19
All right, well, we're almost up on it an hour.

01:24:21
And a half and we could keep going.

01:24:23
But I don't know. The rambles on about some other

01:24:26
things you want to really finish it off.

01:24:28
We made through, we made it through 27 minutes, which is

01:24:30
pretty good. So, final thoughts, not

01:24:36
surprising, it's a lot of Gat. It's the Gavin Newsom show.

01:24:39
It's Jen sake gushing. Over Gavin.

01:24:42
Newsom MSNBC. The questions are obviously

01:24:46
geared towards a progressive audience and we suffer through

01:24:49
it so that you can suffer. I threw it with us, but at least

01:24:52
we provide interesting and fun commentary.

01:24:55
I hope any final thoughts before we sign off for tonight.

01:24:59
Thank usual. You know, no state is, without

01:25:03
flaw, it states are run by people, people are prone to

01:25:07
error like certainly blue and red States, all have their

01:25:11
issues. But Gavin needs to get home to

01:25:15
California because California is full full of issues.

01:25:20
And I think If Ron DeSantis came to California to, you know,

01:25:24
speak out about like, hey, we don't have a homeless problem.

01:25:27
Hey work, our schools are failing.

01:25:29
Hey, we're not, you know, we don't have all these issues.

01:25:31
Gavin would not stand for it. He'd be like, you're not.

01:25:34
Welcome here. Go.

01:25:35
Yo, and so, it's just very hypocritical as we always say,

01:25:40
for him to go and try to touch on all these issues when we are

01:25:43
absolutely full of issues back here at home and we elected him

01:25:46
to hopefully, solve our issues. I know you, and I didn't vote

01:25:50
for him, but It's really unfair of him to be on this little

01:25:53
family vacation tour, wouldn't? We have so many things going on

01:25:57
back here that he needs to really get a handle on because

01:26:00
the our problems are out of our crime and safety issues.

01:26:04
They are out of control. We have things that are really

01:26:06
affecting all of our daily lives.

01:26:08
I know you're talking about how are you live?

01:26:10
Just walking down the street. You've seen it, get worse, and

01:26:13
worse by, you know, every few months, it's just like the and

01:26:17
we're hearing every day, and he's talking about these mass,

01:26:19
shootings and stuff. And I think I sent you some are

01:26:21
Chuckles, We're l.a. Alone, had six matched mass

01:26:24
shootings, in a matter of like a week or 10 days or something

01:26:26
like that. I forget the exact stats, but

01:26:28
it's just like, we're not without problems and our

01:26:31
problems are not little and therefore, I don't think he has

01:26:35
any right to be in other any other state calling out their

01:26:38
issues? Yeah, I think that's the biggest

01:26:42
Optics. Fail of Newsome and he's usually

01:26:44
pretty good. I will say this, never

01:26:47
underestimate noodles and his ability to be a Suave.

01:26:51
Politician. He's very good at being a

01:26:52
politician, but this was Optics wise, this was weird because it

01:26:59
is weird to see the governor of another state gallivanting

01:27:02
around in states that are not his State.

01:27:06
And just going on this like, weird road trip and tour to talk

01:27:10
about freedom and himself, and you just don't see a lot of

01:27:16
Governors going out of their state to take this much time to

01:27:20
talk. Talk about other states.

01:27:22
But again, I mean, the secret is not, it's not really a secret

01:27:27
anymore. Gavin Newsom wants to be

01:27:28
president. He wants to run for president.

01:27:30
This is absolutely his way to start.

01:27:33
Testing the waters to see what, how he's doing to see what

01:27:36
people think of him in these red States.

01:27:39
This could be a way for him to kind of test the waters of him

01:27:43
being in redder States, or conservative states to see his

01:27:47
appeal because he is going to Have to win some red or

01:27:53
right-leaning, swing States if he wants to be president.

01:27:57
So maybe this is his way of kind of getting out there getting his

01:27:59
people and his team out there to see how he feels so it's no

01:28:03
shock that he's out there. He's already bored with his

01:28:06
second term. It's only been like four months.

01:28:07
He's, we've still got three years three plus years to until

01:28:12
he is out of office. She's scary to think.

01:28:18
Yeah. So it's it's definitely Gavin

01:28:21
Newsom Sport with being Governor.

01:28:22
He doesn't want to do it anymore.

01:28:24
He's already won a second term. ERM.

01:28:26
He's moving on to the next thing you want to be president and

01:28:29
this is just this tour to do so and sadly he couldn't wait.

01:28:34
A couple of years to kind of go out there and start doing this.

01:28:38
He immediately in a second term, started to go out and do this

01:28:42
even his Twitter feed. Like you see what he's been

01:28:45
tweeting about for the past. Couple weeks is nothing to do at

01:28:48
California and a lot of people in the responses are like did

01:28:53
you forget your governor of California because you've been

01:28:56
talking a lot about other states and not California?

01:28:59
Then there's people posting stories like you're saying like

01:29:01
these horrible shootings crime all that stuff happening in

01:29:03
California. He's just not paying attention.

01:29:08
So like I said, if you want to go and watch the last seven

01:29:12
minutes of this, you can go find it on YouTube.

01:29:16
I don't think there's anything left for him to really say

01:29:19
that's super interesting. All right, that's our show for

01:29:23
tonight. Sorry.

01:29:24
Is it hour and a half? But we tried to get through as

01:29:28
much as possible and they say a lot of idiotic things, so we

01:29:31
felt like we had to comment on all of it.

01:29:33
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