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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of California underground.
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We have a feisty show for you tonight.
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As you can tell by the title which is how bad is the
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California GOP because you got to make it spicy.
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That's what gets people to tune in and we've been talking about
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this for a week. Now, we've been texting back and
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forth, Cynthia has been very fired up about it, but before we
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begin, I just want to say a couple words.
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It is Cynthia's. Last show as my co-host.
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It's been an honor and a pleasure to have her as my
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co-host. She got invite.
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You know, I don't know how it happened.
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She just got invited on once and then she never left but it was
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it was all for the better, you know.
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She's moving on to bigger and better things.
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And a story I'd like to tell is the first time I met Cynthia was
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at a San Diego, young Republican event and I still remember it
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was in the middle of covid. It was part of this like,
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Protest or something like that. You weren't supposed to be in
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restaurants but we are in restaurants and she comes up to
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me and she goes, hey, are you California underground?
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I go, yeah. Oh yeah.
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I like your stuff. And then, we started trying
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about politics and all that. And then she tells me.
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Yeah, I just got laid off from my job today.
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That's all that. I'm sorry to hear that.
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She's like, no, I want to get into politics.
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It's okay. Well, it seems like this is the
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perfect. At time and sure enough Cynthia
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went out. She volunteered for like a
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bajillion campaigns, like any campaign that would take her,
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she's like, hey I'll help you. I'll phone bank for you.
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I'll do that. All that stuff for.
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You know what? She's working for the Amy rycart
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campaign. Then she's on oan and now she's
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moving on to even better position.
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I'll let her explain if she wants to.
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But yeah, Cynthia is a great example of if you are passionate
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about something Just dive right into it.
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You know, go, you know, just into it.
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Don't give it like, just give 110% and she achieved it.
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So with that, I know. I now I made are all emotional
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and we're trying to get this podcast started.
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So Cynthia has been a great great.
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Having you obviously are always welcome back as a guest is
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always an open invitation. But yeah if you want to share,
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what's going on or where you're going, you can you can certainly
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do that. You can just say I'm not going.
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Share, screw all of you. You don't need to know where I'm
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going. None of your business.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, I was.
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I'm so prepared with my notes. I'm like, you know, we're not
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taking any prisoners night. We've been, you know, just want
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to speak my truth and didn't think anyways.
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So hi everyone fell. It's been such an honor you're
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such a blessing in my life, you and your wife.
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And You know, such great friends of mine.
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So blessed to have you guys in my life.
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There's been such a fun Journey like co-hosting with you and,
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you know, just so many things in store.
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So I'll share story and I'll share, you know what's next for
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me. So along with working on
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different campaigns, along with working full-time for one
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America news. I was also, So so I was helping
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a candidate and I was working his launched fundraiser, for the
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primary election when you launch a campaign, you typically have a
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fundraiser to help you know, raise money and whatnot cells,
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working that and I met a gentleman who will be the
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incoming chair for the Lincoln club and, you know, he's also a
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very successful businessman. He is known.
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You know, for you know, South Bay politics.
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So you give you know, some clarification is name is Dan
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home so if you Google him he has a rich history in San Diego is a
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third-generation Republican. His Uncle.
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Tom Palm was the first minority that was elected to the San
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Diego city council and then chriskate came after that and
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got elected. And then Tom home was also like
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the second Asian that's ever got, like to think.
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California State Assembly. So anyway, so Dan home.
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He's you know very well known for business for politics.
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He also ran for office for children, city council like in
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the early 2000s. So I met him at this fundraiser.
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And, you know, so I was basically burning the candle at
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both ends. I was working like 70 to 80
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hours a week oan, I was working overnight.
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So you know, I was doing Everything I could and then in
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between I was you know, managing phone calls emails during
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campaign stuff and that, you know, in addition to that, I was
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working for Dan home part-time at his public affairs and PR
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firm. So one of the races and he's
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also political as well, but one of the reasons that, you know, I
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volunteered for was, you know, racism Chula Vista.
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So, you know, one of the blessings is You know, and this
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is an unexpected Bill blessing. I you know, I never thought
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that, you know, when it's on your political bucket list and
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stuff at being a staffer for an elected official was never one
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of those because I've just heard different stories and, you know,
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I'm very outspoken obviously. So I was like, no, I like, I
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like sure. I like speaking my truth but
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essentially, my plan was after the campaign was over, my plan
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was to, you know, resign from Owen.
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In which I have done. And then also, when the campaign
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is over like, you know, aside from tying Loose Ends, like it's
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not like your act be campaigning, my plan was to work
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for the at-home whole time, but I had a very emotional day
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yesterday, you know, as I'm sure like, if anyone's ever met Dan
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Harmon San Diego, you know, you'd be so blessed to have them
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in your life, he's loyal and you know, because of his reputation
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People know that the type of quality of person he is along
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with his staff members. So essentially my conversation
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where I thought I was going to have a review and then we would
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finalize my offer and he's been wanting for me to work for him
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full-time, like, four months, we were just waiting until the
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campaign was over. So I can kind of, you know, be
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focused on just working for his firm as firm is focused on
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public affairs lobbying and put public relations.
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So, I was still going to be in politics.
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But just in a different capacity.
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But essentially you know he got emotional because he was saying
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you know, because people know me and trust me and they know my
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staff would obviously be high quality, you know.
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They he basically know he they know that the staff is quality.
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So essentially told me that like there's someone that wants to
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steal you instead and so I'll share more details about it
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because I'm in the process of finalizing it, but I'll say
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this. But again my my goal was never
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to work for an elected official but if essentially some inside
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baseball You work on the campaign, and when that person
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wins, you could get offered a position as part of their
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Administration. So, because I'm still in the
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process of finalizing things. I don't want to share it just
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yet, but I am essentially going to be working for someone that
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one, real, and election. And so, if you follow me on
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Twitter and Instagram, so it's Cynthia.
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Akali cynthiadawne2. I in the next few weeks, I'm
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going to be revealing you know who that elected official is and
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but yeah. So long story short she wanted
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to share just how many doors would open and like Phil said,
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that it's 100% true story. I've always been interested in
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politics since the 2016 election, it was always just
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like an interest of mine, then as the years went on became my
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cared a lot about it. Then, you know, I was working in
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the private sector and because of covid, I actually was in
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between two jobs, so I got like go in 2020 and I found a new job
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and then 20 21, I got let go from that.
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And then, you know, I met felt that the young Republicans
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events 100% true. And then I got offered to work
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for Orion and then want to help candidates in campaign.
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And then I was working for Dan Homme, and doing PR and public
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affairs and lobbying stuff. And, you know, so the best way I
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could describe Scribe it is, you know, I was working 70, 80 hours
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a week and you know you whenever you have those whenever I'm just
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rambling. But my point is like You know, I
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have always had these moments where I've worked hard and I've
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always wondered what they would pay off.
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You kind of just you're banging your head against the wall.
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You're wondering if it's worth it, you wonder, especially in
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politics in such a an intense industry where you're someone
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that's really, really striving to be good.
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You're striving to be righteous. You wonder if you have any
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control or power because you want to make things better for
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your community and then you have moments where you realize like
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how completely Unless you are and how much, how much like you
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don't get taken. Seriously.
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I hope that my story share is inspires you to still to still
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keep at it, even though, it can be an uphill battle.
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I'm going to stop because I'm just going to ramble and
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probably going to cry. But yeah.
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So I'll share more about my next moves, but essentially, long
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story short, I volunteered for a campaign and because of, you
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know, I And a lot of seeds over years and months and it and I'm
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reaping the Harvest. So essentially evolved for
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campaign, and I got offered a position to work for that person
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that won their election. So when it's official, if you
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follow me on social media, I will reveal who what my next
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move is. But because of that position,
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and when you do work for an elected official you working for
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the city, you might be working for the government.
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All that. So there are restrictions about
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what I can and can't say. So I can't be Well, I'm still,
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I'm still going to be outspoken, but I can't be on like a, you
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know, public forum like this again.
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So that is, that's what's that's what's next for me.
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So I'm going to leave those swear leave.
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No stone unturned tonight and it's going to be lit tonight.
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She can't talk shit anymore in a public forum, so this is her
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last chance. She's got to get it all out.
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Yeah, I'm excited for you. The elected official is not
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Trump. If anybody is wondering, And I
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think it's, you know, one last thing that I think is
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interesting and I'm just going to talk about this and you would
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talk to me about oan and I think you felt like your you had a lot
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of doors closed oan and I think you felt like a little
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disappointed, but this just goes to show you that, you know,
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we're both kind of religious people.
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That what's the old saying, when God closes a door, he opens a
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window. So, this is definitely the case
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of like you You know, you were disappointed.
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Oh, and didn't work out, but it turns out you ended up somewhere
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way better and it's alway ends laws for losing someone like
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you. So, with that said, let's do
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some trash talk and on the California GOP because you've
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been all fired up about the California GOP this whole week
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and I'm like, damn girl like and you are fired up about what is
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happening or what has happened in California.
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You're pretty passionate about what happens in terms of like
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the results in California. So I'll let you started off in
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like Speak Your Truth. Kick off the show about why
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you're so upset at the California GOP.
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Who's probably going to throw like a parade and be all excited
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about all the seats that they held onto and stuff like that.
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So why don't you start us off on what you think happened and what
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your opinion is? Sure.
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So the kick it off, this is nothing personal and to be very
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clear, I think this is where you and me defer.
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And again agree to disagree and we're still friends but I'm
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probably more of a party loyalist than you feel.
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So I told a party line I you know, very loyal to the party.
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I you know, I'll be very transparent like all my ballot.
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I didn't vote for any Democrats because there was no need for me
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to do. Not like, for example, my
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assemblymember is David Alvarez and eightieth.
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Well, I found out Georgette Gomez suspend her a campaign
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and, you know, so I so, because I knew that it's not like, my
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vote was needed, like, I knew David when I was like, well, I'm
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gonna vote. So I'm a, so I'm a very hard for
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publicans. So.
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So, and I also like, have great friends that work for the state
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party. I know that the employees work
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very hard, I know, I I know that the struggle is real, I've been
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on the campaign side, so this this really is nothing personal.
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My my issues are more of the results.
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I know that everyone is extremely emotional.
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There's so much to blame. Lots of external factors are
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broken troll, whatnot. So, I just want to lay that out
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there. And the next cycle, I'm
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definitely going to volunteer like to know more about what the
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state party does as far as like the out to vote events.
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I mean, I Volunteer for a couple, California, Republican
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endorsed candidates. I volunteer for Josh Hoover and
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to make a Hamilton who are good friends of ours on the show and
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then, you know, I'll offline as well.
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So, I had that experience of like, you know, working with the
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software that the the state pray does and, you know, volunteering
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for those people. But the next cycle, I'm
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definitely gonna learn more and see what I can do to make things
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better. That being said, this wasn't
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Republican plus four year, maybe more.
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So I'll take responsibility on my end.
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I had high expectations, right? I mean we had the 2016 word for
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Trump got elected and you know, for those that you know, are
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into politics or not typically you know, we have a presidential
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year and then the next two years in between the next Presidential
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year in between it's the Midterm year and usually even if the
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president, you might notice better me feel, but usually in
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most cases even if the present is good or bad whatever and
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depending on who it is, it's usually a referendum on whoever
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the parties and control. So if we go back into our
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history, 2016, Republicans to control the house and the
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Senate, and they won the presidency.
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And in 2018, if people can recall and do their Especially
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in California if there was a Democrat Blue Wave.
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So they picked up house senate, and even and, you know,
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obviously Trump was still there, but even in California.
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Interesting fact. I mean locally we, it was a Blue
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Wave also. So in 2018 in California for the
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state legislature for the lower chamber, the State Assembly, the
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Democrats got veto-proof majority, so it's not Like you
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know, the Democrats have been control this whole like yeah,
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but they got the veto-proof meaning.
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They don't need Republicans to pass anything.
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They have like that total control that happened during the
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2018 blue Waves. So it was a very, very powerful
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like referendum. Now, naturally we had 20/20 we
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had Joe Biden and then, you know, we did that we had some
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good pickups. So after 2018 and caliper in
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particular, we lost four House Seats.
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And so, Point twenty we won them back, /, flip them, whatever
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your terminology is. We got that.
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So, we did well overall in California and, you know, we
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have some other great things happen then we have the
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presidency. And so by Logic, I thought, 2020
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the mid-tier year before the presidential year in 2024.
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This would be the Republicans referendum to be kind of
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replicate what the Blue Wave did and have this Red Wave.
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I mean we had all the big analysis polster's like
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Trafalgar like doing all these polls.
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It's like even outside the California, like some pickup
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opportunities. I mean, I was tracking other
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Federal races, I was tracking some governorships because I
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knew like, you know, even though state and local is important, I
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knew that whatever is happening nationally that's going to
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Trickle and impact. What's going on for all the
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candidates down ballot. So and I'll also add this caveat
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like this extra fat. Could it solve our control two
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things is we had redistricting so You know, it made things, you
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know, very complicated because some of the district's change
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got harder. It's also opened up some new
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seats. So it was an open seat.
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Meaning there was no incumbent so those are potential pickups
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as well. We obviously had the daps
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decision, so we overturn Roe versus Wade like I get it.
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Like I got it. But that being said, I say
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again, I probably had some very high expectations, but I just
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felt like, you know, if you watched our show last last week,
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if there was ever a year for Republicans who run for office,
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it was this year. So that being said, as the
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results stand, I have my handy dandy notes.
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I I mean, like I was just like So it's start with the house,
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okay? So and I'll be honest again, my
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high expectations, what not rate.
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So that's me. There's other people that might
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think like, try to see the Silver Lining.
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I'm just not one of those people right.
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Because I had these high expectations for me.
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A hold does not equal a win in an R plus four year.
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With all the things are going for us because this is our
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referendum. This was our chance to shine.
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This is not for me, a hold is not a win.
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Other people, they might think it's great because the majority
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runs through California. I agree with that sentiment
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100%. But to me a hold, you know, and
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yeah, I get it like, without those holes.
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Like, we wouldn't the seat count would be down.
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But for me, like, if you're asked me, like what we should
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celebrate, it's picking up seats, it's flipping seats.
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So, as of now, We had some pick up opportunities or targeted
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seats as it stands. It looks like we're going to be
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holding all of our Republicans, which is good, but not
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celebrating that. But as of now, California 13th,
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congressional districts to John doar.
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Faye is the Republican. That's a head right now.
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Very, very, very, very close. By the way, if it holds and he
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wins, that's only one. Pick up out of how many seats
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were Being out of how many. Like so I'm just gonna stop
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there because I'm gonna, I'm just gonna go off, but that's my
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tidbit. Those are my disclaimers, those
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are my expectations and that's my opinion on the house so far.
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So I'll pass on to you, Phil. yeah, and perfect timing because
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our rejoining us again from last week is Ray Ray wanted to come
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back and give his opinion on what happened in the midterms
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and how bad is the California GOP and yeah, just to your point
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Cynthia. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think I saw a stat that this would be the lowest amount
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of seats flipped in a midterm, because like you said, it is
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historically a referendum on the president and the administration
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in power, this is like the lowest amount of seats flipped
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for a party in a present. So the fact that Biden gets to
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now, say 0 is the least amount of seeds flipped and there
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wasn't that much damage done and and x, y and z.
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It was definitely not a red wave, it was barely a red
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trickle. It was a red puddle.
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It was. I think Ray had his episode that
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he just put out and I think he called it a red trickle.
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So yeah, it's it was not impressive and in California, we
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should not be patting ourselves on the back.
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When races were so close and could have been flipped in one
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and they weren't so, Now, we get to talk about whose fault is
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that and who do we get to point the finger at and how bad is the
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covering GOP. So right, I'll leave you with
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that. Why don't you just hop right in,
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I know you're right. You're raring to go, guys.
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Thanks so much for having me. How's everybody doing tonight?
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Good, I appreciate you guys. Letting appreciate you guys.
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For those of you guys are listening welcoming me into your
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living rooms, I just got out of hip-hop class so I drove I did
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the speed limit. I'm not a lawbreaker.
00:22:14
I'm not a Democrat, just kidding and how to eat dinner real
00:22:17
quick. Jump On In, and I was listening
00:22:18
to the beginning and I get what you guys, you guys are saying,
00:22:23
but the whole part of podcasting and I also come from the Sports
00:22:26
World, right leg? Like I did a lot of sports radio
00:22:29
and I would cover a lot of Raider games or like the like
00:22:31
the Super Bowl, right? And if you think about sports,
00:22:35
there's morning, mid afternoon afternoon and then evening
00:22:39
Sports show talking about the same game.
00:22:42
But each Sports show it's like A unique different perspective on
00:22:45
the same game, or on the same play, right?
00:22:49
So here's my respective View and it's a little different.
00:22:55
I see, I get where you guys are coming from.
00:22:56
I'm not disagreeing, but I'm Vice chair.
00:23:00
I'll be going on my third going on, my second term, as Vice
00:23:02
chair of the, Yolo County Republican party.
00:23:05
And what that entails is we have a little bit of a smaller County
00:23:09
that we oversee. It's not as big as Sacramento
00:23:12
County and it's the It's D+ like 20 districts for assembly and
00:23:17
Congress respectively. And when I started in the 2020
00:23:22
election cycle, I was brand new, like, going back to 2020.
00:23:26
What I did. I mean, I want to my thought
00:23:29
method of, getting out the vote. I'm gonna burn it in the trash
00:23:32
and just throw it away, right? I did that learning.
00:23:36
And what here's where I differ a little bit, and I don't mean to
00:23:40
break it to you guys, and I know, Cynthia, you've been
00:23:44
Respectively, critical of chairwoman Jessica Patterson of
00:23:47
the California, Republican party, here's a truth, she's
00:23:51
gonna get reelected, that's just the matter of.
00:23:53
She's going to get reelected. That's gonna happen and look
00:23:56
like how you said it's not personal, unfortunately, some do
00:24:00
take it personal inside the California, Republican party,
00:24:04
and another reason why she's going to get there's a couple of
00:24:06
factors Jessica is backed by Kevin McCarthy, she's back by
00:24:10
her me. Dylan harmeet very well
00:24:12
respected and Truth of the matter is, there's nobody of her
00:24:16
stature or of a stature that has similar backing to Jessica to
00:24:22
say the to threaten her right to threaten her seat.
00:24:26
But here's what I will say, knowing the fact that the same
00:24:29
Administration is probably going to continue into 2023 2024.
00:24:34
There is one thing that I do ask of them don't insult Us by,
00:24:40
trying to find that silver lining well, but no, there's no
00:24:44
well, but Again and I know Cynthia said because we have to
00:24:49
say, I say this respectfully I disagree with what Sean steel
00:24:53
did at the last convention after the recall, I said well there's
00:24:56
a girl like he had like was roaring and we have all these
00:25:00
new Grassroots we went from third to number two as a
00:25:06
registered party. You know, as registered
00:25:09
Republicans, because before we were behind registered
00:25:11
Independents, right? It was Democrats Independents
00:25:14
and then registered Republicans. He was like now we're number two
00:25:18
and we got a lot of volunteers. Okay, I'm okay.
00:25:21
Great. I mean, yeah, that's good.
00:25:23
What I would have preferred because I don't want this to be
00:25:27
about. Oh, California.
00:25:28
GOP is bad. That's easy, that I mean, that
00:25:32
that's just easy. Anybody can do that, Republicans
00:25:34
suck. Yeah, that that's easy, right?
00:25:37
What I would like to do or what I would excuse me.
00:25:40
What I would like to see our tangible things and I'm not
00:25:44
saying I'm an expert. By any means, just off the top
00:25:48
of my head, and we actually discussed this last time.
00:25:50
Number one, don't tell me that there was any form of Victory.
00:25:54
There's not, because if you do, that's insulting, what you do is
00:25:57
you do. Tell us is we took it on the
00:26:00
chin, but because we took it on the chin, we have our own cow,
00:26:05
tartare California Native, who walked through the ranks of the
00:26:08
State Assembly here at the state capitol.
00:26:10
He is now the speaker of the house and the house is in our
00:26:13
favor. At the very least, he's from
00:26:15
California. So our California Republican
00:26:17
party has line one straight to Kevin McCarthy.
00:26:20
Find lead with that. That's fine.
00:26:21
That's fit, that's fair. But don't say that, this is
00:26:24
great. You say, we took it on the chin,
00:26:27
that's number one. Number two, is you start at next
00:26:30
convention? What are we going to do to get
00:26:33
at least one or two of our sembly candidates?
00:26:35
Over the hump going into 2024 number three, you tangibly.
00:26:40
Tell us, we are going to Target Independence.
00:26:43
We're going to spend x amount of money on Independence.
00:26:45
You Have to if you want to compete in any way shape form or
00:26:49
fashion you, you know, get bit Target Target specific seats.
00:26:53
Tell the Democrats were coming. That's what you got to do.
00:26:57
So, going back to Jessica's, going to get reelected across
00:27:00
the board. I mean, if I'm the California
00:27:01
GOP, I'd say, yeah, I mean, you can get mad at us for sure, but
00:27:06
I would also say that all Republicans across the state
00:27:09
didn't do well, so it's not just the California GOP.
00:27:11
That's what that's what they would say, right.
00:27:14
And but then I would enter Turn also say you got can you
00:27:17
cannibalize a Republican Senate District?
00:27:21
Where it was like five Republicans.
00:27:23
Cannibalized each other. Now it's a demo on damn.
00:27:25
So now there is a democrat in a full Republican seat.
00:27:28
That is not personally attacking.
00:27:30
I'm just only stating the fact that that's all I'm doing.
00:27:35
And so what's he is that one? I forgot.
00:27:38
S it. It's Anna Maria Alvarado.
00:27:39
Gil. She she took, she took out a gun
00:27:44
Robertson that I don't know the, the Senate District, but it has
00:27:49
Jackson here in Northern California, and it has parts of
00:27:52
the Central Valley. It's like a really big Senate
00:27:54
District and then welcome. And then I would say, you know,
00:27:58
the seat that Patricia Bates was in for a long time.
00:28:02
That's now has a matte Gunderson.
00:28:04
He I lost. Now we can easily try to play
00:28:08
Monday Morning, Quarterback or armchair quarterback.
00:28:11
We should have done that. We should have done that we can
00:28:15
But in reality Jessica's gonna win, we're gonna have to deal
00:28:20
with it. And I would really hope that a
00:28:24
coalition when I mean Coalition Central, committee's number one,
00:28:29
ask for specific things and those specific things can be
00:28:33
more training because they California Republican party has
00:28:36
this thing's called the Trail Blazers where they do train
00:28:39
local candidates. Expand that that's number one,
00:28:44
number to expand their reach to Independent voters.
00:28:46
That's, that's number two, number three.
00:28:49
I would give the vice chair of the California, Republican party
00:28:52
more responsibilities and I'd even consider paying him.
00:28:56
I think right now that your woman makes two hundred thousand
00:28:58
dollars take a sixty thousand dollar pay cut.
00:29:01
You don't need to make 200. I believe if the if that is the
00:29:03
case you need to delegate some responsibilities to the vice
00:29:07
chair of the California, Republican party.
00:29:10
Be it more fundraising. Be it, more targeting specific,
00:29:14
assembly seats. That has to happen.
00:29:17
And if any of these and look, the, the tangible things that
00:29:22
I'm providing. It doesn't have to be that.
00:29:24
These are just examples. If those tangible things do not
00:29:28
happen by 2024. You gotta go because right now,
00:29:33
the overall sets, the overall sense, I just want to move on, I
00:29:38
just do. And I don't mean like, oh you
00:29:40
suck, get out of here because I know that's that's that's the
00:29:43
take of tonight's show but mine is I just want something
00:29:49
different like in like in the NFL, right?
00:29:51
Like I'm like I'm a sports fan. When a quarterback has been with
00:29:55
the team for like eight years and he's a little bit above
00:29:57
average and he's okay. Some people are like, okay, we
00:29:59
just need something different and that's my sense.
00:30:02
That's not going to happen, but going forward to California GOP.
00:30:07
Has to give us something tangible because they're not in
00:30:09
a seat. They're not even in the same
00:30:11
position that they were going back to.
00:30:13
When you Cynthia, you brought it up where they said we won, we
00:30:17
flipped for congressional seats, like that's what they were
00:30:20
hanging their hat on. They no longer have that
00:30:22
anymore. They can't say we flip seats.
00:30:26
No, not really. Like you can't say that anymore.
00:30:30
And the last convention that we were at, what kind of took me
00:30:33
aback, is they were saying, we're young, were diverse.
00:30:38
We're a different group than what we've had in years past.
00:30:42
Yeah, but your results aren't like what we're seeing in
00:30:44
Florida? You're not the Florida.
00:30:45
Republican party. You are in a position to have to
00:30:49
tell us what you're going to do tangibly and I'll get off my
00:30:53
high horse. One thing I find.
00:30:57
Yeah, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying Ray that you
00:31:00
can't go into the next convention and have an enormous
00:31:04
party and think that like, we did this great thing and we held
00:31:08
all these seats because there were winnable seats and Dave
00:31:13
Smith said on a podcast recently, he said about the
00:31:17
Republicans, if you can't win more seats in this political
00:31:23
climate, where you just got out of two years of covid record
00:31:28
high inflation, the economy is in the tank, got high gas
00:31:32
prices. I mean, just literally, you have
00:31:34
a dementia patient as president. If you can't win more seats at
00:31:41
this point, then there's something wrong and I think
00:31:44
that's where the frustration comes from and I and that's
00:31:46
where I think Cynthia's frustrations coming from is this
00:31:50
was probably the one of the best opportunities Republicans have
00:31:53
had in a long time. To really stick it to the dams
00:31:58
and take a lot of seats. I mean, the fact that they
00:32:00
didn't get the Senate, it should be alarm Bells.
00:32:04
What the heck happened? But that's, that's where I think
00:32:09
a lot of the frustration comes from with voters.
00:32:11
And one thing that I, that, that really irks me Is this obsession
00:32:19
with congressional seats in California and I understand they
00:32:23
make national news, they they look good.
00:32:27
They help the party on a national level and you know,
00:32:31
National Park. I hate that.
00:32:35
It seems like the chairwoman and everybody is just What did we do
00:32:40
for Congress? I don't I don't really care
00:32:44
about Congress because and you know, we've had friends who run
00:32:48
for Congress and God bless him but they understand.
00:32:53
You don't go to Congress to save California.
00:32:55
Okay? If we're going to flip
00:32:57
California and make California better, I don't give a crap
00:33:02
about who's going to Congress. I care about who's flipping
00:33:06
assembly seats and who's flipping State Senate, seats?
00:33:09
And Cynthia, I think there are some people That should not be
00:33:14
running for congress and are better off running for State
00:33:16
Assembly. Not gonna throw those names out
00:33:18
there, but there are some people that we know it should be run
00:33:21
for Congress. If they want to change our state
00:33:25
of political Affairs, they should be running for State
00:33:26
Assembly. I think Phil think you're
00:33:28
completely, right? And I even got to give credit to
00:33:30
Cynthia to write like she. She's on the ground.
00:33:32
I'm on the ground, you know, trying to help our assembly
00:33:35
candidates and I think we all feel a frustration, right?
00:33:40
Like, we're just frustrated. And we're trying to point the
00:33:44
finger and I like, when I like we both want to point the finger
00:33:49
but then it's like, okay, that's the easy thing to do, right?
00:33:53
And going lending to what you are saying.
00:33:56
I think there is a whole Credence to that.
00:33:59
That if the Republican Party says, how are we going to
00:34:01
change? What are we going to shift to?
00:34:04
I think their shift go. Their focus goes to the
00:34:06
California State Assembly. I have a question for Camille.
00:34:10
She says, I wish I knew Sports better because Analogies, are
00:34:13
you left me with a cliffhanger? Is it good?
00:34:15
Is it bad? I just want to know and then
00:34:17
Cynthia I mean what are your thoughts?
00:34:20
Yeah, so you brought up the chairwoman so I actually didn't
00:34:24
bring it up like on the podcast at all.
00:34:27
I don't have issues per se with the chairwoman but you know,
00:34:31
when I criticize what part of the way I think, I'll just bring
00:34:34
it up from like from conversations that you and I
00:34:36
have had in terms of like California leadership, so I
00:34:40
think I confused the two so just to give context to those
00:34:42
listening. Yeah.
00:34:45
But but you do but since you brought it up, you're 100%
00:34:49
right. She is Going to win.
00:34:50
Re-election the bench as far as leadership is just not there.
00:34:55
So I agree with you. There's no other real options
00:34:58
and you know, so you know, she wins.
00:35:01
I will congratulate her and, you know, we're just going to move
00:35:05
on move forward. I don't I can't foresee like you
00:35:08
brought up I can't foresee anyone running against her,
00:35:10
right? So just by default I probably
00:35:13
like vote for her as a delegate. So that being said, we're going
00:35:19
to have that leadership will see What happens at our convention,
00:35:22
march, with the other officers? And, you know, we'll just take
00:35:24
it from there, right? And we'll wish whoever wins the
00:35:27
officers and we'll take the part of the in the direction.
00:35:30
So, I just want to make that clear.
00:35:33
So some other thoughts that you bring up.
00:35:35
I agree with you 100%. Like we're not some people,
00:35:38
they're just on the podcast. You know, crapping on people
00:35:41
like we are on the ground we're helping people were trying very
00:35:45
hard to like make change. So we're not one of these people
00:35:47
that are just influencers that are just You know, trying to get
00:35:51
clickbait. Like we're actually like boots
00:35:53
on the ground do need to do to like help people win.
00:35:57
So there's huge frustrations like when we're trying we're
00:36:01
putting our life and for people don't know when you work on a
00:36:04
can't even if you volunteer or depending on how involved are on
00:36:06
campaign. Your life is on hold, like,
00:36:08
everything. Like, I can't even tell you,
00:36:11
like, I mean, I've always been like into social me and all my
00:36:15
phone like when I went politics, became my life.
00:36:18
Like I've been so glued. My phone, I can't even tell you,
00:36:22
like, how, like, how much? I feel like my I'm always on
00:36:24
call. I'm always getting phone calls
00:36:26
and emails text messages and just feel like there's fires
00:36:30
everywhere. Like so, you know, for me
00:36:34
personally, like I work in politics and politics is my life
00:36:37
and I expect people to make politics their life.
00:36:41
So everything that I'm sharing and feeling it's because I
00:36:43
genuinely care and I'm not someone that just speaks trash
00:36:48
and not do anything. Like I actually do the work.
00:36:52
But anyway, so since you brought it up since we're transitioning
00:36:56
to a state races so the house is whatever.
00:36:57
Right? It looks like we might only pick
00:36:59
up one. See but again it's like okay to
00:37:02
18 for the majority it looks like when these California races
00:37:06
get called and then Colorado, they figure their stuff out.
00:37:09
I think the final count might be like 222 or 223 or think 221
00:37:14
guys the majority to 18 that's pathetic.
00:37:18
So it's gone to State politics. So You bring up a good point re
00:37:21
for Senate, we lost that deep red seat up, north, that's
00:37:25
pathetic. Like during the primary, the
00:37:27
fact that we had five Republicans in that primary.
00:37:29
And now we have two Democrats on the ticket that Republican,
00:37:33
hold, that's gone and you brought up Mac.
00:37:35
Understand that was a republican.
00:37:38
Hold has a good thing too. I respect.
00:37:41
Matt Gunderson really really smart guy.
00:37:42
It's business. Yeah.
00:37:44
Savi type of guy. Yeah, that was a Republican
00:37:47
senator Pat Bates that was her seat.
00:37:49
So that Must be a republican seat.
00:37:51
Meaning, we're supposed to get in a republican elected, so that
00:37:54
way that see could be held back now is going to a Democrat and
00:37:58
Catherine. Blake spear if you guys don't
00:37:59
know her she was the chair of stand out and send you this
00:38:01
mayor. So I'm sorry if you live in that
00:38:03
District. But anyways, so we lost a
00:38:05
republican seat. We did.
00:38:08
It. Looks like we might pick up and
00:38:10
flip seat in the Central Valley. David Shepherd, seems like a
00:38:16
good guy. Great candidate.
00:38:17
I've heard him speak. He might Unseat Melissa Hurtado
00:38:22
and I hate it. How like we have this great flip
00:38:26
but I'm bogged down because we lost two Republican seat.
00:38:30
So it's like we can't for the life of us.
00:38:32
Like have one Victory without just falling on her.
00:38:36
And and I do want to add this, though is from, you know, the
00:38:43
frustration to add what I'm bringing into it.
00:38:47
As I know, we're frustrated with California politics and we're
00:38:50
here. Like just crap on the California
00:38:51
GOP and like, I understand what word that's coming from but I
00:38:55
think a lot of it obviously we're just frustrated like from
00:38:58
National level but I think I'll interject a silver lining.
00:39:02
We actually even though we're not picking up new seats, there
00:39:06
are new. Assembly candidates and
00:39:09
potential assembly candidates that are bringing in you life to
00:39:12
the California Republican party. We got Joe, Joe Patterson.
00:39:15
We have Bill. That's a lie.
00:39:17
I really hoping what Is his name Josh Hoover real?
00:39:23
And I'm crossing my fingers, right?
00:39:24
Like, these are like the Silver Lining is.
00:39:28
I don't know what went into though, the candidate
00:39:30
recruitment. I will say that, right?
00:39:32
Like, if I'm the California GOP, I would say.
00:39:36
Look, I understand you guys are frustrated number one, but look,
00:39:38
we do have good candidate recruitment in these three
00:39:41
can't. Hopefully, the three candidates
00:39:43
and it's going to continue. And I really hope that they say
00:39:47
we did lose, you know, a b or c. You know whatever District but
00:39:52
we are going to Target that for 2024.
00:39:54
Because going forward, what I'm saying is is yeah I mean we can
00:39:58
bitch all day. I mean excuse me we can complain
00:39:59
all day fine but there's no use getting out of that.
00:40:02
What I hope I do see is I know you're mad but we're going to
00:40:05
take that anger and we're going to translate in whatever
00:40:07
tangible things. Maybe will increase more
00:40:10
Trailblazer training which is great.
00:40:11
Cool. Like they already do that before
00:40:14
Jessica Patterson came in, I don't think they had
00:40:16
Trailblazers like, I think that was separate where it's
00:40:19
candidate training. And if they were to say, we're
00:40:21
going to increase that, that's great.
00:40:23
I think if they were to say, hey we're going to increase it
00:40:25
because we want to build more of our school board and city
00:40:27
council's, right? I think we're going to do more
00:40:30
candidate recruitment. I think we're going to add more
00:40:32
money to our independent voters. I think going into convention,
00:40:36
giving that hope which I think could be there, right?
00:40:40
And it even if you like our, our leadership of the California
00:40:44
GOP, another Silver Lining is that they're not these old rich,
00:40:48
white men that don't have A sense of reality that's not the
00:40:52
case. I think they're all under the
00:40:53
age of 40 at least which is okay cool.
00:40:55
Great. You know?
00:40:56
Like that's a good start and so as a republican here in
00:41:00
California, always finding the always fighting that uphill
00:41:02
battle. Yeah, it's frustrating as hell.
00:41:07
Yeah, we lost that Senate race. But weavin almost have a fourth
00:41:13
candidate Who's down by less than a thousand votes in her.
00:41:17
Last name is Yoon in Orange County.
00:41:19
She almost over took an incumbent Insurance cork Silva
00:41:23
almost. Now I know that's it.
00:41:25
You're right like we want wins. I don't want bread crumbs.
00:41:30
But if they were to go forward, they being the California GOP
00:41:32
and say, we're going to Target that.
00:41:33
See it again, cool. Because then we can say, look,
00:41:38
let's oh, and you know what? Here's my other thing I cannot
00:41:41
forget this. I have to be honest with you
00:41:43
guys, what's going to continue to draw to drag the Republican
00:41:46
Party? Even though he doesn't come here
00:41:49
is the presence of Donald Trump. He's going to drag the party
00:41:53
whether we like it or not. I'm a two-time trump voter.
00:41:56
That's that, that's what I am. But as long as he is the face of
00:42:01
Republic, republicanism reason, he's in the spotlight, he's
00:42:04
going to inherently drag us down by five points, just just by
00:42:09
being there. That's, that's just my case.
00:42:13
But again, I just came on here to say.
00:42:15
Yeah, I'm, I'm I'm happy as everybody is Across the Nation
00:42:18
except Florida, but there is potential for the California GOP
00:42:25
to move forward, and I think they're going to attack.
00:42:28
I hope, I hope, you know, I like I met Billy.
00:42:31
It's a lie. Good dude, glad he's in the
00:42:34
assembly. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:39
I guess. I just feel.
00:42:40
Yeah. Go ahead Cynthia.
00:42:42
No. It's going to say.
00:42:43
Like I feel like you know when people I feel like sometimes the
00:42:46
best thing that can happen to you is when you lose and I feel
00:42:49
like that those are the times where it forces you to reflect.
00:42:52
So for me it forced me, the reflects so I do agree.
00:42:56
I hope that this is you know, great learning.
00:42:58
Tunity. And there are some silver lines
00:43:01
as far as gains, so to kind of touch on your point for Trump.
00:43:04
Like for me, like the reason why I might fall, I had such high
00:43:09
expectations for this cycle was because I knew like in 2024, you
00:43:13
know, regardless of, you know, whether it's Trump or to Santa.
00:43:17
So whoever's, you know, on the ballot for Republicans, like,
00:43:20
it's a presidential year, right? So everyone's going to be tuned
00:43:22
in. So, You know, I just kind of
00:43:25
felt like it's going to be. Well I would imagine to be
00:43:28
harder. So I just kind of felt like,
00:43:30
okay, if this is opportunity to do it, you know, it's now
00:43:33
because I would just, I guess on paper kind of thing could be a
00:43:36
little bit harder next cycle. So I think that's was part of
00:43:40
like my fear to like I think if there was a chance to do is now
00:43:43
so, Yeah, if the primary shakes out and Trump is the nominee.
00:43:50
Next cycle is going to be even tougher in California, and, and
00:43:55
I'll be the first one to say it. If he is the nominee, I would
00:44:01
overtly say, you can't blame anybody in the California GOP.
00:44:04
Like you just I don't I'd almost give anybody a pass and, you
00:44:09
know, and let me say this too is I have like a good friend of
00:44:14
mine is on the board. Of the California GOP.
00:44:17
And I said, you are my really good friend, but if I don't see
00:44:20
results, I'm going to call you out because it's not personal,
00:44:23
right? And if I was on the board, let's
00:44:24
say I was on the board of the California GOP and we weren't
00:44:27
producing results. I hope I'd get called out
00:44:28
because we're just passionate about it, right?
00:44:31
But if Trump is the nominee again to time, Trump voter here,
00:44:36
we're in California. It would be difficult to, I
00:44:41
would have to handicapped and, you know, even say this if Trump
00:44:45
is the nominee and the California GOP, you know, we do
00:44:49
well despite that, I would say, damn, major kudos to them, they
00:44:53
deserve it. Yeah right.
00:44:55
Right, I agree. You know what I mean?
00:44:58
But overall it's like this. I want us to do better as a
00:45:02
party as Central Committee and I can only imagine like to me,
00:45:08
there's only way up, I hope maybe.
00:45:11
But at what point, does it feel like The California GOP is just
00:45:18
constantly on defense and never on offense.
00:45:24
There's a I mean, I guess I feel like you know, you're already
00:45:28
down to what 23 24 percent of registered voters, you're in a
00:45:35
desperate position. It's not like you're defending
00:45:38
48 or 47 percent of registered voters and you're defending all
00:45:41
these different your. It seems like in my mind.
00:45:45
It just feels like the California GOP.
00:45:47
Never goes on offense. And they're so worried about we
00:45:51
have to hold these for. Five seats in Orange County,
00:45:55
these four or five congressional seats in Orange County, and we
00:45:58
have to hold these couple assembly seats and couple Senate
00:46:02
seats. And it never seems like they go.
00:46:07
Well, this is a winnable race or this area is.
00:46:10
Interestingly purple, why are we not going on the offense more in
00:46:15
these areas and forcing the California Democrats to go on
00:46:18
the defense? That's my thing and I'm
00:46:21
genuinely curious because I feel feel like, I think that's what
00:46:26
people get frustrated about is year after year.
00:46:28
It doesn't seem like you're not really going after anything.
00:46:31
It just seems like I we're fine with where we are, and the fact
00:46:34
that we held all this stuff is ok.
00:46:36
And OK, let's go on to the next one and two years.
00:46:41
So that's, I mean, I don't know the answer, I'm just genuinely
00:46:44
curious, that's a fair question and I had to put some deep
00:46:48
thought into that again, going back to when a very blue State
00:46:52
and we don't have a cash cow, like, the Democrats do, right?
00:46:54
So I could, I could easily come on here and say you will need a
00:46:57
Target Independence. I mean, I that's it.
00:47:00
Easy for me to say, right? But you know, peeling back the
00:47:03
curtain. I mean, how, how what what are
00:47:06
our respective resources to Target Independence?
00:47:10
Like Democrats, do not like that's number one, number two
00:47:15
is, we're always on the defensive.
00:47:17
You know, I've seen Jessica Patterson, give interviews.
00:47:19
She's a good interviewer like she's pissed, she's good, you
00:47:22
know, she's not terrible or anything like that, she's good.
00:47:28
I would again. Again, going back to, I am
00:47:32
trying my best to stay away from they suck because that's easy.
00:47:35
But I would like to say is you're not doing that.
00:47:38
I hope you do this. So the question is, how do you
00:47:41
go on the offensive? I don't like, how do you go on
00:47:44
the offensive? Because I just think seeing
00:47:48
something like we tried this at this time.
00:47:52
Now, meaning we tried this at, here's an example of we tried
00:47:56
this, right? They implemented the
00:47:57
Trailblazers over the last two years, you know, the integrated
00:48:00
right, my right, were your training candidate, great?
00:48:04
Okay. You integrate it out.
00:48:05
Now, what's your next step? The next step is.
00:48:07
I don't know, maybe messaging messaging, what I did, not what
00:48:12
frustrated me and I mentioned this in the last podcast, a lot
00:48:15
of Republicans said That's inflation.
00:48:20
That was across the board. Inflation sucks.
00:48:23
Okay. Well, what are we going to do?
00:48:25
Maybe going on the offensive is, do you want it to be?
00:48:29
Are you a small business owner and you want to operate?
00:48:32
You know, you want to make it easier to operate business here
00:48:35
in California. This is why you should vote for
00:48:38
us, you know? Like that's just an example,
00:48:39
like, is that what we mean by going on the offensive?
00:48:42
Because again I want this to be constructive like how do we go
00:48:46
forward and not just A bitching session.
00:48:49
You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess I get tired of the
00:48:56
of hearing. Oh, well, no one ever gives
00:48:59
money to California and there's no, there's nothing here for us,
00:49:03
like we're kind of on a shoestring budget.
00:49:06
But you know, that Trump raised a hundred million dollars and he
00:49:10
only gave him a million of it, to two candidates and kept the
00:49:14
exact. So, you have Trump who sitting
00:49:16
on 9 85 million dollars, you have Mitch McConnell who sitting
00:49:22
on tens of millions of dollars, like it doesn't seem like
00:49:25
there's a lack of money. It just seems like we're not
00:49:29
directing the money in the right spots in this sort of ties in
00:49:33
with the tirade. I went on the ticket I made
00:49:36
about Robbie Starbucks and I don't care if it's, that's not
00:49:41
his real name. I like calling him Robbie
00:49:42
Starbucks because it's funnier. And to him saying like just
00:49:47
Retreat, just give up on Blue stage just, you know, run to
00:49:50
your red State and hide in your red State and then we'll just
00:49:54
fortify the red States, you know, like forget that when he's
00:49:59
all upset to forget that. Forget the blue States, it's not
00:50:05
worth fighting over. And to me, it just seems like,
00:50:08
no, like, we need to stop pretending, like, we'll just
00:50:12
give up on Blue States and we'll run two red States.
00:50:15
That's a defensive mode. That's a, we're trying to hold
00:50:18
on to the end that sort of like, emblematic of California GOP is
00:50:21
like we're not going on offense. We're just going to hold this
00:50:23
little bit of red that we have here and there when in reality
00:50:28
forcing Democrats to go on the defense in California, saps them
00:50:32
of Isis in other places across the country and there's look
00:50:37
where the political nerds who go pour over these election results
00:50:41
and know that there were plenty of races and a simple disclosure
00:50:45
here. I may be a political nerd and I
00:50:47
still don't know what I'm talking about, half the time.
00:50:51
Yeah, we're yeah, I don't even know.
00:50:57
All its most of the time, it's just me rambling into a
00:50:59
microphone, but you know what I'm saying?
00:51:01
There's plenty of, I'm looking at this, Matt Gunderson race
00:51:05
that was within five points, that's a close race.
00:51:08
And there's plenty of those races up and down, California.
00:51:12
And it's like boy if they just had A hundred thousand dollars
00:51:17
more to send out a couple more mailers or maybe they got a
00:51:20
couple more commercials on TV. What would that have swung?
00:51:25
That 45 points another way. So that's what I guess.
00:51:30
My Ram. I say something real quick, cuz
00:51:32
I don't want this to slip my mind.
00:51:33
I know Jennifer Thorpe just said, San Diego GOP.
00:51:36
Miss the entire apparent movement entirely, they noticed
00:51:38
in the beginning with young kin. Okay?
00:51:41
Here's my thing, though, is here and where I live, there was they
00:51:47
call themselves the mama bears or whatever, right?
00:51:49
And they weren't take back their schools.
00:51:51
And it was just a group of women like, 40 of them, or 60 of them,
00:51:55
and they met at our headquarters here, in Yolo County and we have
00:51:59
7 square feet headquarters and they met one time because
00:52:04
they were outraged and I wasn't able to make the meeting because
00:52:07
it they asked to meet there and it was on the weekend and after
00:52:11
that meeting I said well what came of it and they are and my
00:52:15
chairman and goes, what do you mean?
00:52:17
What came of it? Did they sign up to door knock?
00:52:20
Did they sign up to have any parents that were On that want
00:52:24
to run for school board. How did they turn this anger of
00:52:27
being Mama bears? Or just angry at the school
00:52:30
board? How did they translate that to
00:52:32
make a difference here? And you know?
00:52:35
And and that's what I was. That's what me as a vice chair.
00:52:38
That's my responsibility, right? Like I don't need to go to the
00:52:40
California GOP for that. I go to my community and what do
00:52:43
I make a difference here, right? And I found 43 school board
00:52:49
members that we found it here in Yolo County and to city council
00:52:52
members here the hyper local level.
00:52:53
Well, but those 40 to 60 women, mom parents, they met they
00:52:58
ranted and then they left like what like what did they do?
00:53:04
And and I don't know, maybe, maybe in San Diego, they day.
00:53:07
They were there for the Takin and nobody wanted to bring them
00:53:10
in. I mean, that's, that could be,
00:53:12
that could be happening to, but it goes both ways.
00:53:16
Yeah and it to touch on that point to you know as individuals
00:53:22
and one thing that I like to jog, I don't mean to cut you
00:53:25
off. I just want to say we had at
00:53:26
least 30 parents running for school board.
00:53:28
That is awesome. Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:53:30
Go ahead, send the enemy to cut you off.
00:53:31
I apologize nuts. Okay, and I think, you know, for
00:53:35
those are listening to like as voters as individuals like, you
00:53:38
know, apparatus has and what not?
00:53:41
That's not, that's another thing, but as individuals and
00:53:44
things that we can control For me.
00:53:47
And one thing that I say like voting is not enough like I
00:53:50
like, you know, I think the string of like, how we're trying
00:53:53
to break down, like what can we do to make the Republican Party
00:53:56
better moving forward, you know, be the change.
00:53:59
You want to see within the party.
00:54:01
Like it's not enough to vote. So one thing that you know,
00:54:03
we're pointing out how there's all these potential
00:54:07
opportunities and you know where things drop the ball, like, you
00:54:10
know, not everything is on the can it's fault.
00:54:12
Not everything is on the caliper.
00:54:13
Republican party's fault. Like there's a lot of External
00:54:16
factors to all of our control voters.
00:54:19
Like what are the things that would have helped the campaign's
00:54:23
make it across the Finish Line? Well, look at yourself.
00:54:26
Did you donate to a candidate that you liked?
00:54:29
Did you help volunteer? Did you help phone big for them?
00:54:32
Did you help door knock like at least at the very ends?
00:54:36
Like can you at least go to bed at night knowing you at least
00:54:39
helped? And, you know, I think that's
00:54:42
something that, you know, something that all of us can can
00:54:45
do. And walk away.
00:54:47
And know know that least we did our part, you know, instead of,
00:54:51
you know, just complaining about how things are wrong.
00:54:54
You know. That's, that's my, you know,
00:54:56
message that I would want to say is, you know, we have, we had
00:54:59
all these potential opportunities.
00:55:01
What could have helped move the cross?
00:55:02
Smeagol. Well, the one thing that I know
00:55:04
that can help us is, did we at least help them?
00:55:08
Because I can tell you from the campaign side, like if we had
00:55:11
more money, if we had more help like I think about, like, all
00:55:15
these different ways, as on how, you know, all these great people
00:55:18
that I know put their lives on hold, whether those staffers or
00:55:22
the candidates, what could we have done to help, you know,
00:55:25
when One thing I've seen recently, and maybe this is a
00:55:31
silver lining of us hitting rock bottom.
00:55:35
Maybe not rock bottom but us getting our noses punched in is
00:55:40
I think the tide is turning on mail-in ballots, amongst
00:55:46
Republicans and conservatives and I'm just waiting for the
00:55:50
Rhino emojis to show up in the chat.
00:55:52
But I've said this before and I said this years ago, I would
00:55:57
always get my mail in ballot and I would fill it out at home and
00:56:04
I would drop it off. I'm at the polling location and
00:56:09
I think we've got to get better at conveying.
00:56:13
This message, and getting the ground game going that we have
00:56:17
to get people to show up early and we have to get people to
00:56:20
hand in their mail in ballots. Because at this point, that's
00:56:24
what's, it's going to take to win.
00:56:25
That's the game in California. I'm sorry.
00:56:28
I know people don't like it. I know there's a lot of people
00:56:30
are like, I'm back in my day, we showed up and there was one day
00:56:34
and that was it. And we voted at the local
00:56:37
school. It's like yet.
00:56:39
Okay, but that's not the game anymore.
00:56:41
We got to get as many ballots as possible and we got to mitigate
00:56:45
any crap that happens on Election Day.
00:56:49
That Could screw anybody over So, I'm glad to see that.
00:56:53
Conservatives are starting to come around on that and telling
00:56:57
people, like this is the game, we got to play the game and we
00:57:01
got to get better at it because I swear we missed two cycles of
00:57:05
that. But sure, I'm glad we're finally
00:57:08
catching on. Yeah, it only took us two
00:57:11
cycles. Yeah, I mean I would even, you
00:57:14
know what, I was Pro walking in and doing my ballot minimum.
00:57:21
You know, you know, the one day before like I would never do two
00:57:25
or three days before, I would never do that.
00:57:28
It's just not in my nature. I wouldn't.
00:57:30
If it, you know, I would go on like a Monday or Tuesday.
00:57:33
Never before, however, what is his name?
00:57:37
The former chair of the GOP, is it Ron Nehring?
00:57:40
He had a thread the other day that said actually it is more
00:57:43
conducive for Republicans to go 3 to 4 days in advance at the
00:57:48
very minimum drop off your Ballot or go three to four days.
00:57:51
In advance. Because what it does, is it
00:57:52
saves the g.o.p. money, because once you once you vote, you're
00:57:57
taking off of our role, we don't have to call you anymore, right?
00:58:00
So it's like, Once you vote like that's good for republicans and
00:58:07
I didn't, I didn't take that into consideration until a day
00:58:11
after voting day where i'm like, okay at the the next election
00:58:14
cycle I'll vote on a Saturday or a Sunday.
00:58:19
What I will not do and I will never do.
00:58:22
I will not vote two to three weeks in advance.
00:58:24
That's absurd, that's crazy. That's asinine that is just
00:58:28
that's undemocratic. And I'll even say this in 2016.
00:58:35
I didn't I change my vote from a no vote to Trump. 48 hours
00:58:41
before voting in 2016, I was going to leave my ballot blank
00:58:46
because I didn't trust Donald Trump.
00:58:49
I thought he was a fake conservative.
00:58:51
I thought he was just going to come in.
00:58:52
Say he was Republican and then result and then resort to
00:58:57
Liberal policies being from New York.
00:58:59
But what got me at the And as I saw Hillary Clinton's interview
00:59:04
that said she was for late-term abortion and I go that's insane.
00:59:08
You literally want to slice up you know like you you want to
00:59:12
I'm trying to keep my words clean because of professional
00:59:16
reasons but she was just pro-choice up until the almost
00:59:21
the 9th month. And I said, there's just no way.
00:59:23
I'll take a chance with the guy who has no political experience
00:59:27
in a shooting at the hip and says he's pro-life.
00:59:30
I'll take That chance then a lot been you possibly being becoming
00:59:36
the present and you want to have an abortion at By Night by the
00:59:39
ninth ninth month, my ninth month screw that.
00:59:44
And that was 48 hours before election day.
00:59:47
When I changed my vote from blank to Trump, But, going back
00:59:53
to I'm all for now, Republicans voting three to four days
00:59:57
beforehand. Not three weeks.
01:00:01
And to add to your credit. To the one thing that, you know,
01:00:06
that the California Republican party did, while this cycle and
01:00:09
I mean, they were about, so the party and different candidates
01:00:13
in Southern California, you know?
01:00:15
So, 2018 ballot harvesting came legal.
01:00:18
So what they did was there, like, okay, well, we're gonna
01:00:20
play this game too. So in 2020, you know, Vape at
01:00:23
the ballot, drop boxes, you know, in San Diego and Orange
01:00:27
County like, you know, churches and you know, different Places.
01:00:32
Sorry, ballot harvesting, as well.
01:00:34
You know, I worked on the campaign, we bout harvested, as
01:00:37
well. I'm, I know other kids in San
01:00:38
Diego and different churches, and orange Palin, did the same
01:00:41
thing. And one thing I appreciate that,
01:00:44
the California Republican party did was, you know, they they
01:00:47
messaged on, you know, educating their mailing list on why
01:00:52
Republicans to vote early. And, you know, the biggest thing
01:00:55
and to kind of, you know, elaborate more on Race point on
01:01:00
what the former chair says Ted. Like so most of the time when
01:01:05
you look at the numbers of different candidates and the
01:01:08
districts that they run in, I mean give or take Republicans
01:01:11
are maybe like 20 30, maybe 40 percent so and then the rest are
01:01:15
Democrats and you have no preference which is kind of up
01:01:18
in the air. Like most of the time these Wing
01:01:19
Democrat but there's areas of opportunity but most time
01:01:23
they're voting Democrats. So it's hard to tell which while
01:01:26
who they're voting for, right? So imagine this you're worried
01:01:29
and uphill battle do most of these races if that 23 Percent
01:01:33
do not vote. We don't have a standing chance
01:01:36
even make it in single digits to make a race competitive along
01:01:41
with also trying to chase Democrats to see if they can
01:01:43
vote for us along with trying to chase the no preference, which
01:01:46
tend to lie Democrat. See if they'd be open-minded to
01:01:49
voting for a republican trying to mobilize them and persuade
01:01:52
them. So, you know, it's frustrating
01:01:57
being on the campaign side, when you're looking at, you know,
01:02:00
your budget and you're looking at at how people are voting and
01:02:05
you're like, oh my gosh, I don't know, like how many Republicans
01:02:10
are voting, are they voting or evenly?
01:02:13
You don't even have to look any numbers.
01:02:14
You could talk to your loved ones, how they voted yet, and
01:02:17
it's very frustrated. Scary like having to spend all
01:02:19
your resources on, you know, turning out people to vote when
01:02:23
the go ahead and that's it, you know, as you were talking, my
01:02:28
wheels started spinning. Let's do this.
01:02:31
Okay. Now.
01:02:33
Yes, have I been critical of the California GOP in the past?
01:02:35
I mean, yeah, of course I have and now, my take is, how do I
01:02:40
have a different taken here? Here's, here's where I'm trying
01:02:43
to have a different take Cynthia, let's look back at our
01:02:47
respective game plan as Republicans, the state party at
01:02:51
a local level in the 2020 election cycle.
01:02:56
And now how has our plan of attack in infrastructure?
01:03:02
How has it been different from 2022?
01:03:06
Now, is it better? Is it worse?
01:03:11
Did we add something? And we just get the right
01:03:14
result. Like, how are we different from
01:03:16
now, from 2020? Like, are we the same?
01:03:18
Did we grow, do we have more capabilities?
01:03:21
You know what I mean? Because another thing that we
01:03:23
have to, we have to take into consideration.
01:03:25
Is that in 2020? We We had different District
01:03:27
Lines, right? Then we do now, right?
01:03:30
So something we touched upon in the beginning to like, there's
01:03:33
factors that are out of anyone's control, right?
01:03:35
The daps decision and redistricting, right?
01:03:39
So that's what I mean like, I am frustrated, but a lot of that,
01:03:46
3/4 of that. Frustration is from across the
01:03:48
country. I can almost make the case that
01:03:51
we Buck the trend. Almost in terms of we almost.
01:03:57
Well, we picked up the the door, take a seat, right?
01:04:01
Against Grayson. They haven't called it yet.
01:04:04
It looks like he's going to but it does look like he's on track
01:04:07
to win. So we rotate the Republican,
01:04:09
right? Yeah.
01:04:10
John's Wort day. Yeah.
01:04:12
So the and here's why I, this is why I bring it up at the 20.
01:04:17
I don't know what convention, I think we were in Anaheim, so
01:04:20
it's 20. So that was in April last year.
01:04:24
Talking, this, you're right, or was this not the one in San
01:04:28
Diego? Then it was the one in San
01:04:30
Diego, one in the reef that was the one right after the race.
01:04:32
Call September 20 21. That's right.
01:04:34
The reason why I bring it up. The reason why I asked how
01:04:37
different are we then from 2022. Now, isn't one thing that was
01:04:42
introduced to me. Maybe I'm just the new kid on
01:04:43
the Block and they've always had this and I'm just figuring it
01:04:46
out now. But what is new to me that we do
01:04:49
have access to it, think you're mentioning we have campaign
01:04:52
sidekick that allows us to see who voted and who hasn't voted
01:04:56
and if they haven't voted right. Let's say there's four days till
01:05:00
election day and San. County has updated, and you've
01:05:04
talked to Joe Schmo. You have literally talked to Joe
01:05:07
Schmo, three different times and you see, he has not voted, you
01:05:11
can now call Joe Schmo, using campaign sidekick and say, I
01:05:14
heard you haven't voted yet, can I come pick up your ballot?
01:05:18
That is a new tool that in this election cycle, is new to us.
01:05:23
So maybe I'm just, maybe it's just my nature trying to be too
01:05:27
much of an optimist, because when you go to like football
01:05:30
speak like again, going back to my football Roots.
01:05:32
There's There's like a rebuilding era, right?
01:05:34
You get a new maybe you have a new quarterback or you have a
01:05:36
new head coach and they don't win the first two years.
01:05:39
It's really like the third year where you really start seeing
01:05:42
progress so maybe the question is and football.
01:05:45
Speak is the California, Republican party.
01:05:48
Going in year 3, we're in 2024. We're going to start seeing
01:05:52
results because the new things that were implemented are just
01:05:56
last election cycle. You know what I mean?
01:05:59
Like, all the things that we have is just so So new that, of
01:06:03
course we're not going to have a red tidal wave in California,
01:06:07
think California. Can.
01:06:09
I also make the case that we have the red wave that red wave
01:06:13
that measurement. Should not be a measurement for
01:06:16
California. California should have a
01:06:18
different measurement, just because we're blue that like the
01:06:22
measurement that we have here, I can make the case should be
01:06:25
different from like the Pennsylvania's, the Florida's,
01:06:27
the Ohio's. In the number two is we have
01:06:31
these new capabilities that we are now like calling phone
01:06:35
Banking and all that the Trailblazers that I've mentioned
01:06:38
three or four times. So it's like is it because we
01:06:42
just got those in 2020 that we're starting to instill?
01:06:45
It at the Grassroots level? I don't know, maybe, I'm just,
01:06:47
I'm trying to be too much of an optimist, maybe I'm wrong, I
01:06:49
don't know. What do you think?
01:06:53
I would say, as a Raiders fan Ray, you should know a lot about
01:06:58
rebuilding, former Raider fan, farmer, Raider fan.
01:07:01
Okay, I was going to say when it comes to rebuilding football
01:07:06
teams for a background for background.
01:07:09
For those of you guys that are listening in, I used to be a
01:07:12
season ticket holder for the Raiders.
01:07:13
I used to sit in the black hole and I used to put my face paint
01:07:16
on shoulder pads and I used to go by the name.
01:07:19
Dr. Death and I made the cover of Sports Illustrated, never
01:07:22
show you guys. Guys know I've seen it so yeah I
01:07:26
made the cover of Sports Illustrated.
01:07:28
I've been on ESPN's outside the lines and Ice season ticket
01:07:32
holder and that's how I actually got into politics is because of
01:07:36
the Raiders and Oakland politics, right.
01:07:39
So that's why I like when I see things I almost analogize it
01:07:43
with my experience and Oakland, and like, and you're right
01:07:46
rebuild after rebuild after rebuild, or I'm like house
01:07:51
thinking, even today at the gym, Man, I just love the abuse like,
01:07:56
after every, I mean, I know I'm sure Cynthia, can relate to this
01:07:58
after every election cycle. I'm like, screw this.
01:08:01
I'm not doing it again, three weeks later.
01:08:03
All right, let's go. Like that's just how it is
01:08:05
right, after every losing Raiders season, you know, born
01:08:08
born 12, 3 and 13 8 and 8. All right, give me some more.
01:08:12
And it's like Give me one second.
01:08:16
I'm going to show you, hold on. I mean I understand you know,
01:08:19
I'm on the other side as a Giants fan, we've been
01:08:22
rebuilding for several years and now we're seven.
01:08:24
And to all the people in the chat were like, I don't know
01:08:28
what you're talking about, what's what is this sports
01:08:31
stuff? You're speaking of.
01:08:33
So we're taking a little interlude here.
01:08:36
That's me right there. Wow, wow, that's awesome.
01:08:43
And and see. It's called foot.
01:08:45
Ball in America, the State of the Union.
01:08:47
Because if you note, this is around the Kaepernick era and I
01:08:50
took a stance and I over, I mean, I've always saluted the
01:08:54
flag always in my, you know, I take off my hat.
01:08:57
I had my shoulder pads my face paint and I always I somehow in
01:09:03
Turkish I'm conservative by Nature.
01:09:05
Screw the Republican party, I don't care about it's just by my
01:09:08
nature. I've always inserted my
01:09:11
conservatism and would instill my conservatism.
01:09:15
Oh I have I have like 12 of these.
01:09:18
Thank you. What?
01:09:20
Really instilled my conservatism is going to Auckland city
01:09:24
council and seeing how they operated and it wasn't until
01:09:29
later on. We're a lot of my Oakland
01:09:31
friends found out. I was conservative and they were
01:09:33
just blown off their rocker. And I told them I'm like your
01:09:37
city council has no business members on their, nobody knows
01:09:40
how to operate a business and you know, they're doing an
01:09:42
Oakland, they're having a tax on all small businesses.
01:09:48
Not surprising and iced mocha been away, free money to
01:09:52
transgenders. Well, you know, and here's the
01:09:54
reason why I bring it up, is if it starts in Oakland, if it
01:09:58
starts in San Francisco, that's the breeding ground till it gets
01:10:02
to a city city near you. Yeah yeah.
01:10:07
So I want to go back to, you know, your point about you're
01:10:11
not you're not a big fan of like you don't want people voting two
01:10:15
or three weeks earlier. Absolutely absolutely.
01:10:18
And you know why? Let me tell you why.
01:10:21
The people that did that probably voted for John
01:10:24
fetterman before the debate, imagine, if they waited to vote
01:10:28
till after the debate, right? I think the issue is we're
01:10:33
looking at it through our political eyes where I make a
01:10:37
whole big deal out of like, when I fill up my ballet, die, pour,
01:10:41
myself, a drink. I get my laptop.
01:10:43
I'm looking at who the Republicans and doors, who the
01:10:46
Libertarians and doors I look at all the different propositions I
01:10:50
read them. That's like, through our lens
01:10:54
is, we're watching politics, we're going okay, we're watching
01:10:57
every single race that we're going to be voting for up until
01:11:01
the end and we go. Okay, now we can make our
01:11:03
decision. There's probably, I would
01:11:06
venture to say, there's a good amount of people who like you
01:11:11
said, just go, hey, John fetterman is the Democrat.
01:11:16
I'm pulling the lever for the Democrats.
01:11:18
Let's get out of here. And there's probably a good
01:11:21
amount of Republicans were also. Hey, if it's a republican Scott
01:11:25
our next to its name. If it's Herschel Walker, they're
01:11:29
pulling, the the they're pulling the lever for Herschel Walker,
01:11:33
just because it's gotten hard. So there's probably a good
01:11:35
amount of those party loyalists who I would say.
01:11:40
If you're going to vote Republican, you already know
01:11:42
you're going to vote. Republican the minute, you get
01:11:45
your ballot. Just fill it out and return it
01:11:48
because if you, you know, you're just implicitly like, hey, I'm
01:11:52
just going to vote Republican. I don't need to know their
01:11:55
policies, I don't need to know, well, there's stuff, I just know
01:11:59
that I hate Democrats and I'm going to vote Republican.
01:12:02
So I'll tell you why I disagree with that.
01:12:08
Is is it because of Raiders comment no no no no not at all.
01:12:13
Reason why I disagree with that is because it's not just
01:12:16
assembly in Congress and Senate races that are on your ballot.
01:12:20
You have school board and City Council seat and supervisors
01:12:22
seats as well that are nonpartisan, right?
01:12:25
And so like here, you know, like I mean it wasn't the case here
01:12:30
where I live, but there were two Dems.
01:12:32
Running one is a little bit more moderate than the other.
01:12:36
If if I was going to vote At 41 and like, yeah, he's got my bow
01:12:40
but for some reason he actually came out against something that
01:12:42
I'm really against rent control, right?
01:12:45
Let's say I was actually planning on supporting him and
01:12:47
he says, you know what, we actually need rent control here
01:12:50
in West Sacramento. I would go from and let's say,
01:12:53
said that four days beforehand, I would literally go from.
01:12:57
I'm going to vote for him to. I'm leaving it blank and races.
01:13:00
Here are decided within five votes, you know what I mean?
01:13:05
Yeah. So but know if you want to About
01:13:08
like the Congress or those National races and you want to
01:13:11
fill it out, you might as well two weeks beforehand.
01:13:13
I understand that. But those local races I would
01:13:18
wait, that's just me though. Yeah and I guess I guess my
01:13:25
point is is that the person who's just going to pull the
01:13:27
lever for red or blue? I don't know if they're that
01:13:31
interested in the local races in the nonpartisan stuff.
01:13:34
I think they're just pulling the lever and I don't They're going
01:13:38
to put that much thought into oh who's running for County
01:13:42
Supervisor who's running for, you know, who's running for tax
01:13:46
assessor. But even though here in San
01:13:49
Diego, Jordan marks one, which is awesome for us, he was
01:13:54
already endorsed by the Republican party so you get your
01:13:57
you get your a little County party sheet that says who these
01:14:01
are all the people who you vote for years.
01:14:02
The people you don't vote for, don't vote for this guy.
01:14:06
And most people will probably Just go, okay?
01:14:08
That's why I'm voting for check done.
01:14:10
Okay? And those ballots are in.
01:14:13
So I don't think those are the I think it's better to get those
01:14:16
voters early. Like, Cynthia saying to save can
01:14:22
to save money to focus on those Independents who were still
01:14:27
unsure at the end of the day, who were swing a bowl who you
01:14:31
could possibly win over rather than going after Joe schmoe, who
01:14:36
may be a died, In the wool Republican who you've called
01:14:40
three times. It hasn't voted and you're
01:14:42
calling them up saying, Hey Joe, why haven't you voted?
01:14:45
I don't know, I'm busy, I got stuff to do.
01:14:47
It's bowling night or something like that and it's like okay you
01:14:50
could have just handed in your red ballot two or three weeks
01:14:52
ago. Saves me time.
01:14:53
I could have moved on to the independent so that's fair.
01:14:56
That's just my. There's always going to be a
01:14:59
block of just the party loyalists who are going to vote
01:15:01
for one side or the other. They might as well just get it
01:15:04
out of the way two or three weeks earlier and save everybody
01:15:06
the trouble. Can I say something I could?
01:15:08
Because I actually have to get going, I do appreciate you guys
01:15:11
having me. There is one thing that is
01:15:14
frustrating that at some point, do we does the discussion at the
01:15:21
federal level, have to be brought up where there is a type
01:15:25
of voter Integrity laws on the national level.
01:15:30
Because as as a republican small government, I always want
01:15:34
everything to be at the local level but the reason why I say
01:15:36
that is we are the most advanced not just country almost the
01:15:41
advanced and most advanced State not only in the union but we are
01:15:47
our own respective. Not what?
01:15:51
Like our own respective economy. Like the fourth largest economy
01:15:55
in the world. Right?
01:15:57
How the hell are you able in the 90s?
01:16:01
Okay, where there's pre internet, no iPhone, you're able
01:16:04
to tally votes with in like 24 hours, but you have the best
01:16:10
technology on planet Earth dragging out for two hours or
01:16:14
two hours, two weeks. Nonetheless.
01:16:17
The California GOP, can't can't really do anything.
01:16:22
And if you have a blue State like California that can just
01:16:25
run roughshod and do whatever they want at what point is there
01:16:29
a national law that keeps both red and blue States in check?
01:16:37
That's just across the board whereas the for example, they
01:16:42
have to update Boats, right? Be the reason why I say update
01:16:48
vote is campaign, sidekick. When we call people, right?
01:16:52
They may have voted already but the Yolo County Registrar where
01:16:56
I live, they don't they don't take they take their sweet-ass
01:16:59
time and up and up boat and updating who has voted because
01:17:03
they don't have anything, the answer to.
01:17:04
There's no law on the books to say oh we got to update the
01:17:07
votes right now because there's no ramifications for that for
01:17:11
what for not doing it on time, right?
01:17:12
So I'm saying isn't on a national level.
01:17:16
Do is there an introduction to we're all registrar's across the
01:17:20
country have to update votes at x amount of time?
01:17:24
I don't know. I'm just I don't have the answer
01:17:26
to that but at some point there has to be because I think that's
01:17:31
just unfair to the American people, especially here in
01:17:34
California. There were waiting until Friday
01:17:37
for 50 votes to drop in the most advanced country in the
01:17:42
world. That's obsessed.
01:17:43
That's, that's crazy towns. And that's it, guys.
01:17:47
I appreciate you guys. Having me and hey, feel free to
01:17:49
follow me on Twitter at its Ray Perez.
01:17:51
I'm also on YouTube and on podcast, on my mind with Ray
01:17:54
Perez, Thanks Rick. Thank you Ray.
01:17:59
Thank you so much for having me. I know I bloviate it but we'll
01:18:01
talk soon. Thanks guys bye. so yeah, I
01:18:13
think there's there's work to be done in the sense of California
01:18:20
GOP has to like I said, I think it's good.
01:18:24
That conservatives are starting to come around to this idea of
01:18:29
we got to start playing their game.
01:18:30
You know, I think for too long for too many cycles for at least
01:18:34
two cycles. People have been saying, oh,
01:18:36
it's mail-in ballots. That's what screwing us.
01:18:38
And, you know, my feelings about election fraud and all that.
01:18:43
You got to play the game, I'm sorry.
01:18:45
Don't, you know, don't show up to a baseball game with a
01:18:47
basketball in your hand and then Then when you get blown out
01:18:50
because you're not playing the right game, like that's just the
01:18:52
bottom line. So hopefully they learn from
01:18:55
this and go. Okay, in two years, we're going
01:18:59
to tell the Republicans Stark it and if you're ready to vote and
01:19:03
you know who you're going to vote for and you're dead set on
01:19:07
it, go out and vote and get that ballot in as soon as possible.
01:19:11
You know, fill out and just do it.
01:19:15
And hey if like, you know, eventually you know if we want
01:19:19
to change those laws, you know who wrote those laws in the
01:19:22
first place, the State Assembly. So we want to fix anything for
01:19:27
elections. We need to flip seats to people
01:19:29
that care about election integrity and want to be able to
01:19:32
do that. So I know we and I know that
01:19:36
there's going to be more about so drop tomorrow.
01:19:38
So I think hopefully we'll get good news on that side.
01:19:43
And, you know, there are Family is a lot of data to look through
01:19:47
like as far as you know, some general wins for California's,
01:19:51
so hopeful about that so they're definitely you know, it
01:19:56
definitely wasn't all bad. But again for me this was
01:19:59
probably my fault. I just had extremely high
01:20:02
expectations just for myself and just in general and you know, we
01:20:06
fell short of those expectations, you know, not
01:20:09
everything is the kelp when Republicans fault, there's
01:20:12
things, I mean Iran. If anyone actually gets to know
01:20:14
me, I On everyone, right? It's doesn't, it's not even just
01:20:17
like the party apparatus. Like, I definitely have railed
01:20:20
on the Grassroots. I've railed on America.
01:20:23
First people, I have railed on these people, like called
01:20:26
Rhino's. I have railed on the voters
01:20:28
themselves because my biggest pet peeve is when people
01:20:31
complain and they refuse to not do anything.
01:20:34
So I do think it is incumbent on people that do care about
01:20:38
politics. We need to empower people,
01:20:41
inspire people to be involved and to be the If they want to
01:20:46
see in their Community like you're the party, where the
01:20:49
Republican party, we change it. And that's, you know, my final
01:20:53
thoughts on my last podcast here for a while.
01:20:57
Yeah. Yeah.
01:20:59
I think they're all great points and we could just keep talking
01:21:01
about this all night long and, you know, we went for an hour
01:21:05
and 20 minutes. So we're having these nice long
01:21:07
sessions. Yeah.
01:21:09
They'll be more to talk about in two years and see where we go
01:21:13
and we'll see. I think it's March is when the
01:21:16
California GOP convention is right?
01:21:19
Yeah, I think that's March. It's going to be in Sacramento,
01:21:21
so I'll plug that they're so. Yeah, like delegates can go.
01:21:25
But if you are not a delegate, you can still go.
01:21:28
I want to share that with people because if someone from the
01:21:31
California Republican party, didn't tell me like, oh, you
01:21:34
know, if because I thought, like only certain people have pots to
01:21:37
go, right? But, you know, because of this
01:21:39
individual, who is one of the vice chairs for the caliper
01:21:42
polka party, she told me about it.
01:21:44
And so I went And, you know, we live in San Diego, right?
01:21:47
So, it's the last convention after the recall was in San
01:21:50
Diego, since September 20 21. So I want to plug that out
01:21:53
there. They switch it.
01:21:55
You know, I think that there's two and the off here and one
01:21:59
during election years typically, so they switched it up to be
01:22:04
SoCal, NorCal, the kind of be considered everyone from across
01:22:07
the state so the last two Wasn't So Cal.
01:22:10
So this next one is going to be in NorCal, it's going to be in
01:22:12
Sacramento. If you've never gone before, I
01:22:16
definitely encourage you to attend because there's a lot of
01:22:19
great workshops, you get to meet all the Grassroots activists,
01:22:23
all these people that you talk to online, you get to meet them
01:22:25
in person. There's a lot of pundits that go
01:22:28
elected officials, so you'll get to learn a lot.
01:22:32
So I definitely encourage people to get involved and, you know,
01:22:35
see what they can do to help and I might actually go to this one.
01:22:40
So yeah. Stay tuned for that
01:22:44
announcement. But So I want to ask Steve asked
01:22:47
his drop in mail in ballot at the polling place the equivalent
01:22:50
of mailing it in. I don't know if it's the
01:22:52
equivalent, it's just like a dropped off ballot.
01:22:55
Is that like do they count as a mail-in ballot?
01:22:57
I just personally like doing that because I get to take my
01:23:00
time and I don't have to deal with the electronics because I I
01:23:04
voted in this past presidential election.
01:23:07
I voted for the first time in person at one of the electronic
01:23:11
things and it was an absolute disaster or the Call, that's
01:23:15
what I voted in. For the first time, it was a
01:23:17
disaster. The candidate I wanted to vote
01:23:20
for wasn't even on the list. I had like three poll workers
01:23:24
touching my ballet. It was just, it's not good.
01:23:27
Like it's not the best thing to go vote in person in my opinion.
01:23:30
So I like the paper ballot and drop it off.
01:23:32
So I don't know if technically counts as a male and they they
01:23:35
take it from that polling location.
01:23:38
And then they go, they go take it.
01:23:41
Directly to the register. So, Someone said, how does the
01:23:46
California GOP? Make inroads into La who despite
01:23:50
all crime elected? Karen bass over Caruso.
01:23:53
Well, I think you look, you, we got to look at the how Caruso
01:23:57
shakes out because there's a lot of stuff you can read the tea
01:24:02
leaves and see like where did Caruso play?
01:24:04
Well, was it closer than we thought?
01:24:06
Is it policies that people gravitated towards?
01:24:09
You have to kind of go next cycle and think about what he
01:24:12
said and what was successful for him?
01:24:13
Him La might be a place where you just have to start running.
01:24:16
What I call dinos Democrats in name.
01:24:18
Only which I think Caruso was like, Caruso is basically a
01:24:21
dino. He was a democrat in name only.
01:24:23
So anyway, so with that said it's been about an hour and a
01:24:30
half so I guess we're going to end it here.
01:24:35
Cynthia again, thank you for all of the work you did on this
01:24:38
podcast honestly. All those great guests that
01:24:42
you've we've been booking. It's all thanks to Cynthia.
01:24:45
It's all her connections. You know, it's not me.
01:24:48
Cynthia is the one who's been able to get all these great
01:24:49
people, and all these great guests on the show.
01:24:52
Hopefully, I'll still figure out how to do that.
01:24:53
After Cynthia is gone. But with that said, Cynthia, do
01:24:57
you want to say any final things or close us out for the evening?
01:25:02
Yeah. Just you know thank you so much.
01:25:03
Phil I'm gonna keep it short because I would, I would get
01:25:06
emotional. But you know, I felt great
01:25:11
because I got to save my piece and then you know, I liked
01:25:14
having real I'm here because he shared his perspective, you got
01:25:18
them the day. I think, you know, everything is
01:25:21
just emotional. And like I said, I take response
01:25:24
you know, that you know, that the celebrity video.
01:25:27
I take responsibility. I don't look at that three
01:25:29
specific. I take responsibility.
01:25:31
Billy I had I expectations and you know and again like as Ray
01:25:36
pointed out, like it's a presidential year.
01:25:38
So I was just like, listen, like we have we need to do stuff now
01:25:42
because toy board is going to be lit like and, you know, it's
01:25:46
just going to be hard. So that was my concern.
01:25:49
Everything that they share. It comes, it always comes from a
01:25:51
place of wanting things to get better.
01:25:53
It's nothing personal. You know, I don't care about
01:25:57
making enemies in the Republican Party.
01:26:01
Phil is a good friend off are so he knows that like you know I
01:26:08
you know there's there's drama within the party and my I never
01:26:12
intend to burn Bridges from people.
01:26:15
I mean I've had I have friends who are less conservative more
01:26:20
conservative me. I don't care like as long as you
01:26:23
are decent human, I could care less.
01:26:26
So you know any any you know rants IHOP today Day, it's
01:26:32
really just nothing. Right?
01:26:33
And hey, like if there's things that I don't know, educate me
01:26:36
because, you know, when I learned things, I was able to,
01:26:40
you know, change my opinion and then I was also able to have the
01:26:43
opportunity to educate people on it.
01:26:45
So they understand how things work too.
01:26:46
So, you know, long story short, you know, at the end of the day,
01:26:52
the party is this. You know, there's things we
01:26:55
can't control there's external factors but as a voter, you
01:26:59
know, we have a chance to make a difference.
01:27:01
Like I Said in allude to multiple times, is not enough
01:27:04
just to vote, you do not have to make politics your career like
01:27:08
me, but the very least. I can you be a volunteer?
01:27:11
Can you can you phone bank or door?
01:27:14
Knock, like once or twice for a candidate like one weekend, can
01:27:18
you donate five dollars? Ten dollars for someone because
01:27:21
as we alluded to there are so many close calls.
01:27:24
Imagine if people had more help, you imagine.
01:27:27
If people had more money to be able to take them across, those
01:27:30
are things that are full. Your control that you can make a
01:27:34
difference or impact in. So you know, if you guys want to
01:27:37
keep in touch with me, just follow me on Instagram and
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Twitter. It's cynthiadawne2.
01:27:43
I-i'm going to be, like I said, just over the next few weeks.
01:27:49
When I finalize things, I will share, you know what I'm up to.
01:27:52
So you could follow me there. Thank you.
01:27:53
Phil Awesome. Well, as I always finish out
01:27:57
every episode, if you like this, make sure you text at least one
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And we'll see you on the next one.
01:28:13
Have a good night, everybody.