On this episode, Cynthia and I are joined by Ray Perez of the "On My Mind" podcast to discuss our thoughts and reactions to the recent midterms.
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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of California underground.
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This is gonna be a big. I can already tell be by our
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pre-show. And what we were talking about.
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Before we hopped on, this is going to be a jam-packed show.
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There's a lot to unpack here. We're gonna try and get to it
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all within an hour. We're here to take your
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questions live chat here on YouTube as we always do every
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Thursday night at 8:00 p.m. we always do live streaming
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Cynthia. Just off a hard fall.
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Thought election is still here, still soldiering on as my trusty
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co-host. And then another great guest of
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the show that we always like to have on is Ray Perez host of the
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on my mind podcast I got that right.
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Right, right. Yeah.
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On my mind perfect. He always has a lot to say.
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He's very involved up in Northern California so you know
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it's a big state and as much as Cynthia and I try to cover the
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entire State. There's a lot of North we just
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don't know what the heck's going on.
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We're really focused on Southern California but we're going to
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touch on everything. Midterms Trump versus DeSantis.
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We're going to touch upon all of that and obviously take your
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questions and comments. So, how's everyone doing
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tonight? First off, You know, I will say
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this, I am not as defeated as 2020 was because after the 2020
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election, I think infuriated was putting it lightly, right?
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Like I didn't want to touch politics foremost, a month and a
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half, and that's unheard of for me.
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Now, I'm lying. It's been two days.
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Okay, let's go. Okay, are you doing Cynthia?
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I'm doing great. I'm sure we'll get into it also
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but you know, unfortunately it's, you know, we're in
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California, so it's election months.
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So I think there are races that are called, and then there's
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some that are not so, you know, I wish I could say I'm done with
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campaign, but I'm technically not just its any right?
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Like there's just no way, right? No, it, no.
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It isn't too. And then we'll talk about later
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tonight, too. But But you know the
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presidential years coming up to and I know like you know the
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holidays are coming up but then like you know sometime next year
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and like March April like you know regular candidates they
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should be campaigning at least a year out so you know, it never
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ends, but that's our life in politics.
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Absolutely. So let's just jump right into, I
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guess, we'll start off with this question in general.
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In your opinion, WTF with these midterms I there was a lot of
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talk about this was going to be a red wave and that the
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Republicans were going to absolutely dominate.
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I don't think that's necessarily what happened.
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I mean Florida just blew everyone's expectations away.
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If that has to do with DeSantis at the top of the ticket will
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get to that. But what are your general
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thoughts? Whoever wants to go first, what
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are your general thoughts about what happened in these midterms?
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What what's the takeaway generally from these midterms
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ladies first go first. Okay, guests first So there are
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still a lot of races to be called.
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So I personally had been, you know, a little bit more quieter
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than I wanted to because there's just so much to analyze for me.
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Like, for example, I don't know, the final count on how many
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House Seats were flipped yet because they're still races that
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need to be called the Senate. You know, for example in Georgia
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it's going to run off and that's today's number six so there's
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just so much moving pieces and you know even like in San Diego
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there. Are very close races locally, so
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it's just, it's just so hard for me to really kind of visualize
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it. But at the top of my head, you
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know, in general, I was expecting a lot more.
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I thought that, you know, if there was ever a moment for a
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republican to run for office, it was this year like if they were
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always on the fence about it, this is the time to run because
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no matter who is the Republican nominee and 2024 say it louder
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for the people in the back. Go ahead.
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Say that was that again, if you're, if you're a Republican
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and you were Were on the fence of writing.
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This was the year to run this and because I know, I can, I
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just want to say this, I cannot she may be laughing.
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I'm she's so right, please, get up and go.
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Go ahead. Yeah, it's just, you know, any
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regard and, you know, some people are going to have their
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pins about the present 24, that's fine, but no matter what,
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no matter who the nominee was, just in general, people who are
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not in politics or more plugged into Paul.
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X when it's a presidential year. So again, if you're a Republican
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and if you were like, if it was on your bucket list to run, you
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know, the timing to run was this year.
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And on top of that in my personal opinion at least in my
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lifetime, the environment for Republicans who Prosper was,
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this was the best year to do it. I mean, Joe Biden's presidential
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job approval, ratings. The lowest that it's been on any
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sitting president that I've seen the economy were going into
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recession. It's a Year high recession.
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It's going to get worse gas prices everywhere, suck like
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crime is at an all-time high. Like I just thought.
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And then, of course, you know, because of covid-19, it put the
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education for at the Forefront of people and there's so many
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fractions in the education by, right?
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There's the covid-19 mandates, there's critical race Theory,
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there's you know, the talk about, you know, there's only
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two genders Ders. There's also the issue of
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children not performing at grade level for math and reading
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there's just so many fractions within that education
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regardless. I just thought Everything was
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Prime for its do it and you know, just off of the
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participation alone and this was kind of like one of my big
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things, right? And what I didn't like about the
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messaging as far as like the campaigning consultant side but
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obviously the participation numbers were low and in general
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it's a midterm year so it's going to be low.
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Felt like it was the lowest Lauren that which is very
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disappointing. I mean on the Republican side
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you know some people are kind of like hey Democrats aren't voting
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so Republicans This is our chance to take it back.
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I have an issue with like how like why is our strategy always
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like relying on Democrats doing bad?
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Like while we should just keep better because they obviously I
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mean the Democrats know how to raise their morale.
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And the one thing that they know very well is, when they get
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their, their butts kicked, they know how to kick into high gear.
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The 2018 Blue Wave is the perfect example.
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They know that they lost in 2016 and they beat us in, 2018, You
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need a real talk about this tube and 2018, those for Orange
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County, /l a congressional seats, all Republican, and we
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lost them and then 2021 them back.
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But, you know, overall, again I want to wait till the final data
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and for things to be called so that probably won't happen to be
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happening until December. I felt confident will
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Republicans will take a majority in the house and the Senate.
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I think locally there were some races as well but overall I was
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expecting a lot. More.
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I'm not going to lie to people and me it's just disappointing
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and I don't want to again. I think Legacy corporate media.
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Their goal is to do more alya demoralize us.
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So it's possible that this reg trickle had more.
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So I want to reserve some of my pants for that.
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So I'm hope I'm wrong about that.
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But just my initial reactions, I mean, we really couldn't believe
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it. That's one way to put.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Ray what are your thoughts? I don't even know where to
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start. I am so on the Sun as my side
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gig, I teach people how to do public speaking and I always say
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always have your like three periods of where you want to
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start and go from there. I have like 10.
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Honestly, I'll try to be the most concise.
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I'll go with one. Cynthia, mentioned messaging,
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right? We went wrong.
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Starting. When did commercials kick into
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gear? Think commercials kicked into
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gear before ballots came out? Is that right?
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Was that also September August like four candidates?
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Yeah, it was definitely before the ballot propositions was
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farther ahead but candidates was closer.
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So when I saw the reason I bring it up is When I saw the
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candidates congressional candidates assembly candidates,
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come on, a lot of it was how bad Democrats are, okay?
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And I go. Okay, fine, right.
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Like we all know it's bad, okay? But what almost never came for,
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the exception of like maybe a candidate and Josh Hoover, who
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ran a pretty good campaign and he's like with in like a couple
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hundred votes, almost every Republican, Can had an email or
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a commercial of how Republicans did bad, but how their
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governance would be uniquely different and how life would be
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better. The reason why Florida is just
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phenomenal. The reason why every single
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Republican and moderate State should be like, Florida is
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because they have damn good governance.
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We're so used to our messaging and look, I'm a, I'm a two-time
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trump voter, and, we're gonna get to this later, right?
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What we brought, what he brought this populism, that was, I would
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analogously speaking was the frosting on the cake, which was
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pretty good. But analogously speaking this
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election, I saw only frosting but you didn't deliver the cake.
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What are you going to do differently?
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Are you going to stop spending? Are you going to provide actual
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bills or proposed things that you're going to Champion?
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That's different than what we've already had.
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There is a specific and individual that they're going to
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remain nameless Cynthia. And I know this person and I'm
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going to have a series. I'm going to because I take
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politics seriously, right? I'm going to talk to sit.
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I'm gonna have a very serious conversation with Cynthia later
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on. There was somebody that we know
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that constantly sends emails about only fundraising Told me
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how they're going to govern different.
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What are you going to? I don't care if there's an R
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next to your name. What do you believe in?
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Because there are some candidates that they risk or
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they fear pissing off the middle to left, and they want to keep
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their messaging completely innocuous, that's part of
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politics. You have to take a risk and here
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like and everything starts. Local, right?
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So, I am by no means an expert. I'm only speaking as a vote.
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Odor here. The city council candidates that
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I'm helping they're like, really blue dog Mill to the right
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pro-police pro-business. They want to bring business here
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to where I live. I told them I go let me check
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her emails because I'm not in their district and I said I
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don't know what you stand for. You have to take a stance and
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what they had told me here in West Sac is that our police
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officers are making two hundred, twenty thousand dollars a year,
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not because they want to because it's so over it because it's so
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understaffed that they have to Work double or triple overtime.
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Instead of making 90 to making 200 and her opponent
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does not want to staff more police officers and I said you
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need to say that you do she didn't win but she did see a
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little bit of a bump because she took a specific stance in her
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emails. She did get one person that was
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like well I don't know about that.
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We need to pay our teachers more she responded with right, I'm a
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teacher, I'm Pro teacher, but that money doesn't.
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These are just two different money's at Come in, right?
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And I told her that you are showing him that you know what
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you're talking about. You are taking a stance on
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something and that's what Florida has been doing.
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All right? They have had good governance.
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They've been able to stand up Dave, you know, here's another.
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Then we're gonna get into this later while.
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Donald Trump kept on dr. Fauci, DeSantis opened up the
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state while the well we're having gridlock.
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DeSantis is helping the You know, the ports open so that we
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can get more suppliant. Like those are specific policies
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on why from DeSantis to Rubio to the mayor and Florida why they
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are so successful is because they tell you what they're going
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to do. They stand by it and they defend
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it. That is not the Republicans of
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yesteryear of the George Bush era.
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And that's one and not only that, number two is candidate
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quality you know to combat what I'm saying, the Canada Quality.
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Somebody asked well, what about fetterman he's literally--he's
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almost almost brain dead, but his messaging was well, at least
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I'm from here. At least I'm a mayor and a
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lieutenant governor, who's this? Snake oil salesman that doesn't
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even live here and lives in a mansion and people like, okay,
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so we have all these candidates that are really polarizing.
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The carry Lake, I like everything that she says, but
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there are some people that No, I don't know if I really want
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this, it, I don't know if I like uncertainty in a candidate Trump
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on a national level. Why he kept, you know, the Kim
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jong-un's at Bay the the Putin's at Bates because they didn't
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know how he was gonna act, right?
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Like that worked for so long. But when you come here like you
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here locally, people want to know what is in their candidate,
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and we're putting forward these candidates.
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Now, that don't have a record to run on.
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And I was telling I think we were having a conversation off
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are good assembly and Senate members here in the state
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capital are good. Be the one that are good are the
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ones that have local experience at the city council and school
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board, right? And the Republican Party keeps
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putting forward. Some people some candidates that
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don't have that experience on the Congressional, the state and
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Senate level. Now, there is one yunxi
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assemblywoman you and she's taking on Incumbent Sharon
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Quark, Silva. She's Yoon is a nobody, but she
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has some type of experience where her community knows her.
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She's leading by 30 votes right now, she could potentially beat
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an incumbent in the assembly. She could be that Republicans
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were projected to pick up maybe one in the State Assembly here.
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It could potentially pick up to, which is pretty big, right?
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but a lot of it starts off with The messaging.
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What are you going to do better? And number two who are your
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candidates that you're bringing me?
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Don't tell me that you're going to go down to the local
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Salvation Army and say, hey, this guy looks good.
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Let me go, pick them up. Like what what are you doing?
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Huh. Yeah, I I tend to agree with you
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that and I'm sure we've all talked about this internally and
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text messages and group text and Cynthia, nailed it.
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When she said why, I think when one of our text messages She
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said the same exact thing our strategy especially here in
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California. It can't just be a were not
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Democrats and I feel like we've we feel like we've fallen into
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that a lot here in California with Republicans is that they
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just go. Well, we're not Democrats, you
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know, look at how high your guys is how, you know, expense of
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your housing is how high toxicity and can I add something
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really quick, because I think Joe Patterson This problem is
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probably listening right now. He's going to be the new
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assemblyman here in Northern California.
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Here in Rocklin. I want to get this in because I
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know he probably has kids and yes I want him to understand
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that I do believe that good candidates like Joe Patterson.
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Who is a practical dude. Josh Hoover who?
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I hope he wins. Both of them ran for city
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council and School Board respectively, right?
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They're both young. They're both.
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I believe under 40. They both have families.
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Please, and they're both relatable.
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We are, you know, there's either with all due respect, there are
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some assembly members who are Republican that either retired
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or were beaten or lost who are over 60 years old?
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They're retired, they haven't had a job in over five to ten
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years. They don't have to worry about
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budgeting their budget, you know, for their family because
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other kids are there, empty nester.
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So they'd have to worry about paying tuition or going to child
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care if you have people like Joe Patterson, who's just six
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months. Once removed from city council,
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you have a city, you have a sitting assemblymember and Josh
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Hoover who, I hope wins, who understands the local community,
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that could potentially shape how Republicans are seen in the
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state capital. That's what we desperately need.
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And I'm not talking about like, do the next six months.
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Here comes a big red wave in California.
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They can serve up to 12 years. So, it would be very interesting
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to see over the next 12 years, If Joe Patterson and Josh, Uber
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are both in the assembly who are going to potentially ride their
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coattails with. Not only good governance, but
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good candidate selection that they're seen.
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Hey, those are good candidates. Those are those are good sitting
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assembly members. Let's get more like them.
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I'm very interested to see. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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And I to your point about these candidates who are who need to
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run for for the smaller off Offices.
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Well I shouldn't say that there's no office, that's too
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small or not that significant, they're all important, I would
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say even closer to home and local is even more important,
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but so many politicians think they're just going to jump in
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and, you know, take over Sacramento in one Fell Swoop.
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That's not how it works and we have to get a lot better at
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building. The bench in the bench.
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Comes from city, council comes from school board.
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It comes from these politicians who The local level and then
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they can move up because they have the experience.
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And so many times we just kind of get a candidate who may look
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good. They may fit some old they have
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no political experience and then they get clobbered and that just
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happens too much. And the problem is is you could
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make a lot of these races really competitive in California and on
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the ground. And on the micro level in the
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local level Republicans and conservatives could take more
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seats than I think they really take advantage of these School
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Board seats. Like you're saying you were
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talking about before we hopped on the show School Board seats,
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which are now being flipped, you know, city council seats which
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are really important County, Supervisor seats, which are so.
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So important, now that people are starting to realize
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especially after covid, these are cities that Should be taken
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and slowly building a bench that sooner or later they do bubble
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up into Sacramento. Can I share the, can I share the
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the story about this about the school board?
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Absolutely that well, I was that was that was my lay up to you to
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celery. So for those of you guys are
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listening either Camille, can you make sure that I that you
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can hear because they're saying I'm cutting out.
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So I'm the vice chair of the Yolo County Republican party.
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I live here in West Sac and we decided to back Back or not bad.
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Help. Help a school board candidate.
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And at the last minute, we help them do phone calling.
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What have you? And I made a phone call the
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night of and I said to a republican, I called Republicans
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and their district. And I said, don't forget to vote
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it 6:30. If you haven't voted, go vote
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and they and the lady goes, yeah, I'm going right now and I
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said, don't forget to vote for so-and-so person, but aren't
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they? A Democrat and I go no.
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Their Pendant, we like them. You know?
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They're they just want to increase literacy rates.
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Just go vote for them. She was okay, fine.
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We're going to the Pole right now and I can hear her picking
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up her keys and she's getting out of the house.
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You can hear it in the background, the vote right now
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is dead. Even at 5:49.
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It's like if it had not been for her, she'd be losing so on
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Tuesday, we get to find out. Right?
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And she told me and you know, as we were she's the person is just
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phenomenal. She's a great person and I know
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that when they get in there she'll probably ask me for
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questions, right? Like, how should we do this?
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How should we do that? She's asking me about CRT, they
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didn't know this person did not know what CRT was because
00:21:33
they're just, they're literally the, the definition of an
00:21:36
independent, I don't care. I just want my kids to go to
00:21:38
school. I have like three of them and I
00:21:40
explained it to her and I showed her, some nonpartisan news clips
00:21:44
of what it is and she goes, I did not know this.
00:21:46
Thank you for letting me know and because of our involvement,
00:21:50
she's she could possibly be there.
00:21:51
So you know what we're going to do now, what we're going to do
00:21:54
is when we hold a crab feed here, what we're going to do is
00:22:01
we're going to go knocking on Republican doors during during
00:22:04
2023 and invite them to our crab feeds and buy them to event.
00:22:07
So that way by the time, Election season comes, it'll be
00:22:10
our third or fourth time. Oh yeah, I remember that crappy.
00:22:12
Okay, don't forget to vote for so-and-so.
00:22:14
All right, I'll do it. Yeah, that does make a
00:22:18
difference. And I always laugh when I get
00:22:21
followers or people on live saying, oh, why do you vote
00:22:24
doesn't matter? My vote doesn't matter these
00:22:27
races. These local races are decided by
00:22:30
hundreds of votes, or in this case, could be decided in like a
00:22:34
couple votes. You brought up Josh Hoover, he's
00:22:38
trailing by. By a little over like now, 300
00:22:42
and change. That's not a lot of you say,
00:22:45
like someone's behind by 300 votes.
00:22:49
People will be like, that's it, that's not a big amount and you
00:22:52
look at closer to a lot of these Races.
00:22:55
They are very very close and that should be a good sign for
00:22:58
if you're a republican that a lot of these races are actually
00:23:01
as competitive as they are in California and also to bring it
00:23:06
down to San Diego. So someone that I supported and
00:23:10
helped campaign for John McCann. He's running.
00:23:13
He is the projected winner. Right now for chill.
00:23:16
Dustin mayor. And I take a lot of great pride
00:23:20
in this, but the other upon his opponent was a markup in the
00:23:23
jaro who is a paranormal and career candidate ran for
00:23:27
congress, couple times and dating congresswoman, sir
00:23:30
Jacobs, but, you know, he's been on that.
00:23:33
So this is 6 times being on the ballot, he's been on Council
00:23:37
and, you know, Port Commission, all that stuff and before that
00:23:42
for one of his city council races, he beat a Democrat by 20
00:23:46
votes and you No transitioning to this cycle, and right now I
00:23:52
think he is going to win. I mean he's ahead by ammar by
00:23:55
like nine points, but another race, that I care a lot about is
00:23:59
Imperial Beach, mayor. And it can't be manager.
00:24:03
I've known her since we were 15 years old so she's one of my
00:24:06
best friends. Her mom surely not go.
00:24:08
All this a is in second place behind the Democrat.
00:24:11
Obviously Shirley's a Republican and she's only in behind her by
00:24:16
50 votes and that's what we saw. Where this last, you know, dump
00:24:21
that came in and also, clarify this to, I know that there's
00:24:25
some people that say that late returns benefit Republicans.
00:24:29
I mean, I'll be very honest. I don't know if I agree with
00:24:32
that theory just because I have seen a lot of Statewide and
00:24:35
Congressional races in California and also some local
00:24:38
races here in San Diego where it's actually benefit the
00:24:41
Democrat. So, I know that there's some
00:24:44
people that here like, oh, ballot returns benefit
00:24:47
Republicans. You know, I don't know if I
00:24:50
agree with that. I've there's just too many
00:24:52
things, but anyways, I just wanted to contribute to that
00:24:54
conversation that these local races.
00:24:57
Like it makes a huge difference. Your vote matters.
00:24:59
Hmm. And even to like what Ray was
00:25:03
saying how you know you had that conversation and that vote
00:25:06
mattered iPhone banged for a few candidates.
00:25:09
Also leading up to go out to vote and literally the day
00:25:12
before election day I got on the phone with the Republican and
00:25:16
you know I was asking if we can count Your vote for any for
00:25:20
supervising all that stuff that Republican haven't even opened
00:25:23
up his ballot. So if I didn't talk to that
00:25:25
person who knows that that person involved.
00:25:27
So just things like that, you know, don't make assumptions,
00:25:31
you know, always ask your people in your circle even if it's not
00:25:36
strangers, make sure that they vote.
00:25:39
So there's this comment in the chat that I want to bring up
00:25:41
real quick and I'll let you guys comment on it.
00:25:45
Lucas has don't just knock on Republican doors.
00:25:47
Every person needs to be reached everyone in the independent
00:25:49
voters. Aren't in the political mix and
00:25:51
knead. The most information and
00:25:52
influence my quick comment about.
00:25:56
That is there's a good book called the campaign manager.
00:26:00
If you want to really know about like the insides of like
00:26:03
campaigning, it's a pretty decent book.
00:26:06
What, what is it called, again, I think it's just literally
00:26:08
called Out the campaign manager, very easy to read for the
00:26:14
layperson. The one thing she, but the one
00:26:16
thing she talks about is you have your, Sinners, your
00:26:20
savings, and your Sables, your Saints are your people.
00:26:23
You obviously want to reach out and touch people in your party.
00:26:28
The saveable Czar, the undecideds the independence, the
00:26:31
center's are the people who are absolutely not interested.
00:26:35
In talking to you opposing party, Her whole thing is you
00:26:39
don't want to talk to the center's because you could
00:26:43
activate votes, that otherwise would not have been activated.
00:26:47
So that's one reason. You don't knock on every single
00:26:50
door. In my understanding, you don't
00:26:52
want to activate photos, you don't want to show up in a
00:26:53
Democrat store and be like, hey, let's Vote for This Republican
00:26:57
and then they'll just get more activate and say great.
00:26:59
I'm going to go out and vote against that Republican, but you
00:27:02
could go out and get the Sables, the swing voters the
00:27:05
independent. So that's my comment I did.
00:27:07
If you guys want to chime in as well.
00:27:09
Yeah. So I get what he's saying and I
00:27:11
agree. But the one thing that we found
00:27:13
out very late is, and I'm going to implement this next time.
00:27:17
The week before election. It's going to be our base week.
00:27:21
That means people that we know are Republicans and are not sure
00:27:24
if they even want to vote or not.
00:27:25
Because and so that's like the knocking on the doors, like in
00:27:29
2023, right? I can February when we have a
00:27:31
crappy need, we want we need to build our base, right?
00:27:34
Like, we need to have a base to begin with, right?
00:27:36
Because we don't we kind of have one.
00:27:37
What kind of do? So, first, we need our base.
00:27:39
We need the ones that we know the Republicans.
00:27:41
I know that if I knock on your door with my Yolo County,
00:27:45
Republican shirt, you're gonna be like, oh, hey, what's up,
00:27:48
friend? Haven't, you know, for my first
00:27:49
time meeting you, and then with those, we want to invite to our
00:27:53
crappy to, I want to invite them to our events, so we can start
00:27:56
raising money. Right.
00:27:58
Once we establish our base and build our base, then yes, we do.
00:28:02
Go out to those Independents, but when we talk to those
00:28:05
Independence, maybe I'm not going to wear my In shirt.
00:28:08
Mike here. I'm the minority Republican,
00:28:12
right? Like I went for example to the
00:28:14
other los Muertos event, it's for Halloween and it was in the
00:28:17
north side of town. We're not that many Republicans.
00:28:20
I think it's like 80 20 Republicans.
00:28:23
So I did have my Republican Banner like kind of like behind
00:28:27
me but I had my deal was more. Oh sure, I had pocket
00:28:30
constitutions. I had many flags and I had candy
00:28:33
and I was discount was talking to people about what I stood
00:28:36
for, what I Wanted. Now, if I was just decked out in
00:28:39
just Republican gear there, be like not only talk to you,
00:28:42
right? Like you're into Republican for
00:28:44
me. So I just have to understand
00:28:46
where I'm at. I was in a place where I was
00:28:49
targeting Independence and I just knew my environment in my
00:28:52
other environment is I'm targeting my base because I need
00:28:55
to build it and I have their information on my iPad or my
00:28:58
phone. I have my Republican shirt on.
00:29:01
I introduced myself would you like to come?
00:29:03
Have fun with Republicans? Of course.
00:29:05
So I get what they're saying. It just has to to be at the
00:29:08
right situation. All so I don't know, Lucas is
00:29:13
involved in politics or not. So I want to provide Lucas some
00:29:17
Insider baseball, so we're in California.
00:29:23
This is California underground. That being said, California has
00:29:27
their own election laws. So, about harvesting about
00:29:31
curing motorboating is legal, you know, people can have their
00:29:35
own personal convictions about it I certainly do.
00:29:38
I am of the opinion. Opinion however that I will play
00:29:42
by the rules because I want to win that being said, you know,
00:29:49
and full transparency, same on the campaign side, so I want
00:29:52
Republicans more in office, right?
00:29:55
So You know, there's all this, talk on the Republican side
00:30:01
about when to vote, how to vote, whatever if you live in
00:30:04
California and you are someone that's plugged into the party
00:30:08
apparatus and you wonder how you can help.
00:30:11
Honestly, the best way that you can help is to vote early.
00:30:15
There is nothing more frustrating and more anxiety
00:30:20
feeling when because, you know, depending on where you are in
00:30:23
California, unless you live in like a really red District, most
00:30:26
of us don't Need the Republican vote to even stand a living
00:30:32
chance to have some kind of Competitive Edge.
00:30:35
And so when you the people that we count on what we're looking
00:30:38
at the registration, we're trying to see like pay we need
00:30:41
to smell boats when we need to swing this small boats, if the
00:30:44
Republicans are not voting for The Republican candidate, and
00:30:48
I'm talking like when you get your ballot and we're looking at
00:30:51
the vote by mail returns, it breaks the campaign side out
00:30:56
because we're like we have all this money.
00:30:58
Left and like in even press to make a little Dent to make like
00:31:03
30, 2014 percent to even like get to, like, the 50% fresh to
00:31:07
even unseat this person or be competitive with the Democrat.
00:31:11
It ruins everything. So, yes, I do.
00:31:15
Agree like on the Outreach side, like to mobilize it before.
00:31:18
Getting out to vote, you should be touching people that are
00:31:20
swinging a bowl and there are some hardcore Democrats that you
00:31:24
will never doesn't matter how great your Republican
00:31:26
candidates. They will never vote for you.
00:31:28
At all and you shouldn't even try to do that but it is
00:31:32
frustrating and it takes away time from us being able to talk
00:31:36
to his people where we can mobilize them and consider them
00:31:39
plant seeds for them to even consider a republican.
00:31:42
When the Republican base is not helping, they can that, because
00:31:46
they refuse to vote early. Now, again, you know, people
00:31:50
have their own convictions about voting, but, you know, I can
00:31:54
share my personal pain on the campaign side, you know, it is
00:31:57
extremely Xiety feeling when you know, we can't even from a can
00:32:02
say we can't even put our we can't even have like a dent.
00:32:05
I'm like the vote count if we're seeing that the people that were
00:32:07
relying on to vote are not turning in their ballot.
00:32:10
So I wanted to give Lucas that Insight that that, you know,
00:32:16
inside baseball. It is, we can't the Republican
00:32:19
can't focus on people in the middle.
00:32:21
If like, the Republican side is not voting for helping the
00:32:24
candidate. Yeah.
00:32:28
I'm always amazed how dogs can be in a deep sleep and wake up
00:32:32
out of a deep sleep and just start barking at some random
00:32:35
thing. I'm actually one of those weird
00:32:38
Republicans who does do the vote early.
00:32:42
I fill out my ballot at home and I drop it off at a polling
00:32:44
location and I know I get all sorts of people who are like,
00:32:48
aren't you worried about fraud? Aren't you worried about?
00:32:51
That's what they want you to do in the mail in ballot and all
00:32:53
that stuff? I don't think so one everybody.
00:32:57
A paper trail, that's your paper trail.
00:33:00
You can have the ballot, you can pull the little thing off, you
00:33:04
get the notification that it's been counted.
00:33:06
So Camille just said Rhino over because I dropped off my mail in
00:33:13
ballot early. I voted I go to the night
00:33:17
before. The night before any.
00:33:24
Hi Winnie Winnie wants to be on this podcast.
00:33:26
She's got a lot to say tonight. So I I usually do not vote more
00:33:31
than two days beforehand but I like I work in legislation and I
00:33:35
found out today that if you want, like if you want voting
00:33:41
early like 2 to 3 days at dropping it off, it's actually
00:33:44
more helpful for Republicans because then you're spending
00:33:47
less money on people that have already voted and you can direct
00:33:51
your You know, your efforts on people who still have voted.
00:33:59
Yeah. So I'm a fan of early voting,
00:34:01
what, and another thing talking about sort of, like, reaching
00:34:04
out to Independence Independence.
00:34:07
As I understand it in California, tend to break for
00:34:10
Democrats. Yeah.
00:34:12
So, it's interesting because my wife is actually registered as
00:34:15
an independent mostly because I'm interested in seeing what
00:34:20
she gets in the mail and she gets a ton of democratic stuff
00:34:25
Vote for This Democrat. We had enough Catherine Blake's
00:34:28
fear stuff to build like a for and and like start a bonfire
00:34:33
with it. But yeah, and she gets all the
00:34:35
text messages Vote for This Democrat and stuff like that.
00:34:38
So you know something just popped up like a light bulb,
00:34:42
just popped up, you know, moving forward, like and I'm sure we're
00:34:46
going to talk about this later. Specifically, you know, with the
00:34:49
with the, with the California GOP, they have to do something
00:34:53
different. I don't know what that different
00:34:54
is they have to do something. Right?
00:34:58
And there's two things with them.
00:34:59
Number one, it is okay to claim some type of Victory, right?
00:35:04
Like like we like for example we picked up to assembly seats.
00:35:09
I think that's okay to bring up at like at the next convention,
00:35:12
but they also have to bring up what they're going to do very
00:35:16
different. And I think that different can
00:35:18
be, we're going to, we're going to raise money to spend 50
00:35:21
million dollars on Independent voters because we have found out
00:35:26
that It's our outspending us on these flyers to Independent
00:35:29
voters, 5 to 1. And that is one thing we need to
00:35:33
do. Because by the end of the 2026
00:35:35
cycle, we want to pick up more assembly.
00:35:38
More assembly pickups and Senate by targeting the independence by
00:35:43
spending x amount of cash. Because what that does, you're
00:35:45
giving number one. You're giving a hard variable,
00:35:47
like a hard number. I am, I want to hit this and if
00:35:51
you don't hit that, then we replace you.
00:35:55
Right. Mike and I think this kind of
00:35:57
goes back to what I'm saying, most candidates, whether you're
00:36:00
in the party or you're in Congress or your assembly, they
00:36:04
don't want to give something hard because they're going to be
00:36:06
held to account for it. That's why they remain kind of
00:36:08
innocuous ambiguous that site is bad but I'm not going to tell
00:36:12
you what I'm going to do because if I do, when I don't do it,
00:36:15
you're going to vote me out. Yeah, right.
00:36:19
Yeah and I always I always come back to this statistic.
00:36:23
It's you know, Scent of California.
00:36:26
Voters are Democrats. The other remaining 50% is split
00:36:30
pretty much evenly between Republicans and independents.
00:36:33
That is a large amount of Independence who are sitting out
00:36:36
there. I don't know if any other state
00:36:38
has that many Independence sitting out there, that shows to
00:36:42
me, that they're just kind of disgusted with both parties.
00:36:45
And they just don't want to be a part of either party.
00:36:47
So obviously they're not getting what they want from Democrats
00:36:51
in. They're obviously not getting
00:36:52
what they want from Republicans. So why is there not Stronger
00:36:55
drive by Republicans to say, let's start bringing that 25%
00:37:01
down into our camp and then all of a sudden, maybe it's 40 60.
00:37:07
Republicans, you know, like all of a sudden were 40 50.
00:37:11
Republican to Democrat. Now, that's a bigger percentage
00:37:14
where things could happen. That's a seismic shift.
00:37:18
If you go from 25 percent registered Republicans to 40% in
00:37:23
California. That could be a seismic shift in
00:37:27
how the state looks overall between local and state races.
00:37:30
Well, if you have see, I don't have it in front of me, but you
00:37:34
have to look at Brian Dolly's race, right?
00:37:36
He got what did he get? Did he get like 30?
00:37:40
No he got it in Bryon. Dolly got like a 42%.
00:37:43
Right let's see. I'll pull it up, right?
00:37:46
Yeah. He broiling up right now.
00:37:49
He broke 30%, I think. 42 proofed 42.3%, right?
00:37:55
Okay, now he overperformed, Republican registration.
00:38:00
Meaning there are probably some dams and some Independence
00:38:06
probably voted for him. So that's if that happens on a
00:38:12
regular basis, meaning like what I was saying, if we up are
00:38:15
spending on Independence and Republicans like a bright, like,
00:38:19
Ryan's a good guy, he's a really good guy.
00:38:22
But is he the best candidate? Hmm but we're not right.
00:38:26
Imagine if Republican had an even better candidate with all
00:38:30
due respect to mr. Dahle.
00:38:32
If his floor is 42%, imagine what a even better.
00:38:39
Republican would be in the next four to eight years.
00:38:43
I mean what did Larry Elder get did he get like 4 million votes
00:38:48
and oh and she sang cocks. Got 38 percent seacocks didn't
00:38:51
even didn't even break 40%. Yeah.
00:38:56
So that's actually trending in a different direction and you we
00:39:00
couldn't even favor and we can even make the case that
00:39:04
California actually bucked the trend of buck the national
00:39:08
Trend, right? But I think I'm Cindy, I don't
00:39:12
know if Or the one that said it earlier, like I think you
00:39:16
mentioned like, there is some victory.
00:39:18
You know, I heard Rana McDaniel mention that we like a lion like
00:39:22
won the Super Bowl. Like if you win the Super Bowl
00:39:24
by like three points, you win the Super Bowl.
00:39:26
That's not how politics works, right?
00:39:28
Like, okay, we picked up two seats, fine.
00:39:30
Okay, you need to pick up 20 to 30 seats because those
00:39:36
Republicans that are in purple districts might on occasion
00:39:41
swing to the left. You need Have a safe majority to
00:39:45
where if a couple of Republicans go to the left.
00:39:48
You're still safe. We did not have that.
00:39:52
Politics is not 1 by 2 to 3 points, politics is 1 by 30
00:39:57
points and by definition on a national level Republicans have
00:40:02
lost, California, kind of bucked that Trend but just not enough.
00:40:08
They Buck the trend but it's not like, whoa.
00:40:12
It was like, okay. Okay.
00:40:14
And that that right there that that bucking of the trend that
00:40:17
tells me. What do we have to do to
00:40:20
increase that little crack that they're not worrying about right
00:40:23
now but we can into 26 years. Yeah and I've always, you know,
00:40:30
it's got to be incremental and it's got to be a little by
00:40:32
little and adding 10% to your voter rolls or your percentage
00:40:38
of Voters. Does make a big difference and
00:40:41
you could see it across The entire State.
00:40:45
And that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that and
00:40:47
thanks to Camille for bringing out that it was 38 to 42
00:40:50
percent. So actually we Republican
00:40:53
gubernatorial candidates have gone in the right direction.
00:40:55
They've actually picked up more voters.
00:40:58
So that's a silver lining. You could take away from this.
00:41:01
And imagine this dollies, the downfall of not only see
00:41:05
downfall the thing with Dolly. It's not that.
00:41:07
He see, he got 42%, and he's not polarizing, right?
00:41:11
He just an average guy like good.
00:41:13
Dude, like, I don't know if you've ever met Brian Dolly such
00:41:15
a downer Earth dude. Dude, his kids are we both have
00:41:18
met him and he's been on the program to?
00:41:20
Yeah, no, he's super good God. Very nice, very nice, but family
00:41:25
to definitely if Brian Dolly had like 20 million more in his bank
00:41:29
account for decent, right. The thing is is why he's not
00:41:35
electable is because not a lot of people know him, that's it,
00:41:38
you know, I mean, that's it, he's so number one just an on On
00:41:43
polarizing figure. He's not polarizing Your Vessel
00:41:45
so far. Not polarizing.
00:41:48
Gets you that polarizing gets you Larry Elder.
00:41:53
Yeah, I feel like if he had I just let's say like even five or
00:41:57
ten million and he was running consistent ads throughout
00:42:01
California, who knows how many more percentage points he could
00:42:05
have gotten, and it wouldn't be, you know, this, what he, you
00:42:10
know, news from calling a big blowout.
00:42:12
But I feel like a lot of people just didn't even know.
00:42:15
He was running and that's probably a lack of funds and a
00:42:17
lack of ability to run ads and commercials and and get people's
00:42:21
attention and just say Hey, I'm running against Gavin Newsom,
00:42:25
so, but 42% for just being a guy who ran against Newsom is not
00:42:30
bad. And that and, you know, I want
00:42:34
to give him credit to because he did put in some Sweat Equity, he
00:42:38
put in the miles and whatnot. And so, my call to action for
00:42:41
people that are Freedom minded that are center, right center
00:42:45
left again from the campaign side, like, there's only so much
00:42:51
it can do. It can, do you know?
00:42:53
I think, you know, we're all doing our person mortems like
00:42:56
you know, what could we done? What we should have done the
00:42:59
thing that's in control of the voters is, is it?
00:43:02
Daly's fault that he didn't have much money.
00:43:06
No, I think that on the voter side we all could have donated
00:43:10
to him. I mean, it's not like he cuz he
00:43:14
consult but you know, so there's things on the voter side that we
00:43:17
have full control over. We need to do better on
00:43:20
supporting people and electing people, you know, especially for
00:43:25
unhappy with what we have. And the one thing I'll say about
00:43:29
Brian dolly is he didn't hurt anybody down ticket.
00:43:32
He was just there. Okay, he didn't hurt anybody,
00:43:35
you know, I mean, I know this is kind of like really particular
00:43:38
and this Monday, Monday, almost Monday, Morning Quarterback but
00:43:42
I wasn't that impressed with his debating on KQED with Governor
00:43:46
Newsom. It didn't look like he came
00:43:48
prepared. It didn't look like he offered
00:43:51
any solutions. He just kept saying under your
00:43:53
leadership. We failed.
00:43:55
He just kept pointing out to like, what he, what Newsom did
00:43:58
wrong. But he never came out with, and
00:44:00
it wasn't just him. This was really a Ross, the
00:44:02
board from congressional candidates to himself, and I say
00:44:05
this respectfully is you didn't tell me how California would be
00:44:10
any different, right? Like, and I'm going to again,
00:44:13
I'm gonna go back to my guy, Ron DeSantis on a national level.
00:44:17
He, I believe in my opinion, when it comes to Republican
00:44:20
primary, he is going to say this is how the US will be different.
00:44:26
Because prime example is Florida.
00:44:28
This is what could have been different with the rest of the
00:44:30
u.s. right button. Stead Brian Dolly could have
00:44:34
said we've been doing this for so long.
00:44:37
Imagine if we implemented X, we could be doing why?
00:44:41
And he didn't do that, you know, and it's not because he's a bad
00:44:44
guy, I think it's just a learning experience.
00:44:48
Yeah, yeah, I agree 1000%, that's when I when I did my
00:44:53
episode where I kind of critiqued or watch the debate
00:44:56
and critiqued it. That's the for one of the big
00:44:58
things. I said was Dolly just he kind of
00:45:01
would say ayo things have gotten bad, we don't have water cool.
00:45:07
Okay, tell us what you're going to do differently.
00:45:10
And the other thing that Newsome was very good at and I will give
00:45:14
new some this, he was he was very prepared, he's a smart guy,
00:45:16
he knows what he's doing, it's very politically Savvy, you
00:45:20
know, don't write off the guy. He is very politically Savvy, he
00:45:23
was very good at saying oh Brian you didn't vote for this so
00:45:27
you're a bad person. And so instead of going, I
00:45:32
didn't vote for this policy or this law because it was a crappy
00:45:38
law. Here's why.
00:45:39
And here, week house, we could have done it better.
00:45:42
Yeah, you know, in throwing it back in his face so and we are
00:45:46
not. Can I add this to?
00:45:49
I don't want to come across, like we're just playing Monday
00:45:51
morning quarterbacking. We're saying, well, if you did
00:45:54
this, if you did, what we are. All three collectively saying is
00:46:01
our critiques. It's it's what could have
00:46:04
probably propped even more candidates over the Finish Line,
00:46:09
like what we're saying, like, I know, we're just like, on this.
00:46:11
We're streaming on YouTube, if what we were saying was
00:46:15
magnified on a bigger scale on commercials on.
00:46:19
Imagine if California actually treated their homeless and more
00:46:24
got their treatment that they needed, we would be a better
00:46:27
California, right? If that was the messaging, I
00:46:30
think we'd have more Republicans winning at the assembly.
00:46:33
We'll even if it's by three candidates or four candidates, I
00:46:36
think we'd be seeing more progress.
00:46:39
Yeah, so you'd brought up Ron DeSantis.
00:46:42
I did want to talk about this really quickly because this is
00:46:46
sort of the big thing that's happening.
00:46:49
Now, since Tuesday, is the Schism that is growing between
00:46:56
the Trump camp and Trump supporters and those who are
00:47:00
fans of Rhonda scientist because there's always Ben, the
00:47:03
speculation of who's going to run.
00:47:05
Is it going to be Rhonda? Sanchez?
00:47:07
Is it going to be Trump? We all knew going into Tuesday.
00:47:10
Trump supposedly has an announcement that he's now
00:47:13
pushed off lightly was likely going to announce he's running
00:47:15
for president but after DeSantis is resounding victory in
00:47:20
Florida. I think there's a lot of people
00:47:23
who kind of backed up and say, whoa, this guy looks like he has
00:47:27
the momentum so I don't know who wants to go first.
00:47:32
Ray you showed up in your Rhonda Santa sure.
00:47:35
I know you've been a big fan of Ron DeSantis for a while.
00:47:38
Now what are your thoughts on? Where does this go?
00:47:41
Does this blow the whole Republican party apart?
00:47:43
Is it time to move on from? Trump is wrong?
00:47:46
The guy for 2024, can I defer to Cynthia because I actually kind
00:47:51
of genuinely curious on what she has to say?
00:47:55
Because I'm very interested on speaking with Republicans who
00:48:01
may either be indifferent or just I don't know what Cynthia
00:48:03
is, but I'm very curious on her point of view.
00:48:09
I'm I'm team. I'm I don't care about twinkly
00:48:14
for until after New Year's bear bear.
00:48:17
Bye. Immediately like initially, you
00:48:22
know, I do have a like between those two, I do have a
00:48:25
preference and it is Trump, but I am not, I do not have the
00:48:30
energy to have a full-on debate, and I'll be honest because I
00:48:35
really I want to see, you know, I want to wait until all the
00:48:39
votes are certified Across the Nation.
00:48:41
I would like to see data. I want to see how many how seats
00:48:45
got flipped or taken. I want to see if Herschel Oscar
00:48:49
wins a senate. I want to see how San Diego did
00:48:53
for local politics and you know, in general to just a general
00:48:59
frustration, you know, we can point the fingers, I don't know
00:49:04
who is to blame, but my, my personal frustration is,
00:49:08
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
00:49:10
Everyone is entitled to see who they have their preference, and
00:49:14
I could be ignorant to this, right?
00:49:16
But I'm just a little bit. Like why are we talking about
00:49:21
2020? All right.
00:49:22
Now like we don't even know like who won yet and you know and I
00:49:26
think in general and myself to I'm it's just a lot, it's very
00:49:31
emotional you know just I think because we all the three of us
00:49:38
and I think also like on the Republican side too I think Like
00:49:43
I said in the beginning, for my initial reaction to the midterm
00:49:46
results, we were all expecting a little bit more.
00:49:49
So I think, you know, everyone's just trying to figure out what
00:49:52
went wrong. Everyone's trying to process it
00:49:55
and I tweeted out today, too. I was like, well, it's Twitter,
00:49:59
it's hectic, right? You you're in control of your
00:50:01
emotions, but even when I talk to people like outside politics
00:50:06
in politics, like everyone is still as emotional.
00:50:10
And for me, I had to have a moment where like, okay, I need
00:50:12
To like, take a step back. Like my Twitter, verse is the
00:50:16
same as real life person. I think that means that, you
00:50:20
know, I need to check out a little bit so between the two of
00:50:24
them I do prefer Trump, but I am not in the position to defend
00:50:29
him or put down. Like I just, I don't know.
00:50:32
I don't want to talk about who's running for president, will next
00:50:35
year. Like, I, there's just so much.
00:50:37
I would like to analyze and whatnot, but I'll say this.
00:50:42
So if you were to ask me between those two, I do prefer Trump.
00:50:46
However when the presidential primary comes in March of 2024
00:50:51
and we find out who is the Republican nominee.
00:50:54
If it is not Trump, I vow that I will support them.
00:50:58
And I'll say in general, I'm not surprised that he's going to run
00:51:02
again, my full-time job. I work for one America, news my
00:51:06
network. We are live stream everything
00:51:09
that Trump does from his rallies to To when he speaks at CPAC and
00:51:14
even when he wasn't speaking, we still stream live pets from C
00:51:17
pack and you know, all the conservative events and stuff
00:51:21
and not even if Trump is on there for political figures.
00:51:24
Also, do you think go ahead? You can I ask real quick I just
00:51:28
want to interject something. Do you think that if Trump
00:51:32
doesn't run that your ratings could suffer because he's not in
00:51:35
the spotlight, so it's interesting because it was so,
00:51:44
and that as far as the history as far as I know, it wasn't
00:51:47
actually to political. And then when Trump got in, I
00:51:50
think that's what probably give that.
00:51:52
So, but I mean, like, like the reverse of CNN, like, CNN needs
00:51:57
needs to talk trash about him to like, be good and one American
00:52:02
News kind of has to have him to, you know, cater to his base.
00:52:08
Right. Yeah, I do think.
00:52:09
Yeah, I think in general like, you know, let's just say Trump
00:52:13
decide. Although again, it's hard for me
00:52:15
to think what? If because I've known for a
00:52:18
while, and I'm not saying that like, I'm a virtuous circle,
00:52:22
right? It's just as a writer and as a
00:52:24
producer, I've had to, you know, watch everything and write about
00:52:28
it. So you know, when you hear the
00:52:31
rallies every single weekend and you have to write a script in
00:52:34
the summary about it for TV it's like you know, I hear the same
00:52:38
lines again and again and also he's had one-on-one interviews
00:52:41
with some of our talk show hosts and like, you know, our
00:52:45
high-level reporters and he gives the whole legal answer.
00:52:48
Like, you know, I made my decision, I think the people be
00:52:51
happy about like that's code for for basically, I'm running.
00:52:54
So I've been hearing about this for months, right?
00:52:56
So I'm not surprised that he is going to run, it's just, you
00:52:59
know, there was campaign Finance laws, that would trigger legal
00:53:03
stuff. That being said, I am also very
00:53:05
confident Joe Biden's running because I've That's right.
00:53:10
Yeah, well I well now he officially online has said he
00:53:14
intends to run but before he did that he gave the whole legal
00:53:18
answer also like yeah you know trying to tiptoe but it's pretty
00:53:24
obviously is going to run like oh I need to just talk with my
00:53:26
family and what was very interesting about it to Jill,
00:53:30
Biden. His wife was also on record kind
00:53:33
of saying. Wow, like we've actually talked
00:53:35
as a family decision has been made.
00:53:37
Kind of giving the whole legal talk to you.
00:53:39
Like yeah, we're running and then also in those same injuries
00:53:41
were I've had to watch and report about a all.
00:53:44
He also said that like you have Trump runs, I'm going to run.
00:53:47
So again, I knew this for months, I think Trump is going
00:53:51
to run. And then when I hear Jill, Joe
00:53:54
Biden, giving that legal answer and then basically affirming
00:53:57
like, yeah, Trump runs, I'm sure running to it's like so we
00:54:00
already know those people be on top.
00:54:02
That being said, I still forecast and see like a very
00:54:06
fielded at least. Republican side, you know, Trump
00:54:09
runs, I foresee many other candidates that being said
00:54:12
between the two, if you ask me, peeing, DeSantis and Trump, I do
00:54:15
prefer Trump. But again, let's just say he
00:54:19
loses if it's a Santa store, if there's another Republican that
00:54:22
happens to come out on top, I vow that.
00:54:25
I will vote for them. I think protesting a
00:54:28
presidential vote is stupid, especially because I do think
00:54:31
the 2024 cycle, it's going to be incredibly impactful especially
00:54:37
if you're someone On that cares about all the other races below
00:54:40
that it does you no harm it does you.
00:54:42
No good if you care about electing good people in office
00:54:45
if you protest the vote. So that's my thing.
00:54:48
I'm I would prefer Trump over to Santa's, but if it's the Santos
00:54:52
orbits Trump, or if it's another Republican that wins the
00:54:56
primary, I will support. Whoever wins the primary.
00:54:59
I'm not going to be one of those people who gets butthurt,
00:55:01
because my person, I preferred it when Okay, Phil real quick.
00:55:07
I just I just have to refer to respond to one of the comments
00:55:09
about Anthony Trevino. Before we talk about any
00:55:13
candidate, can they crack single digits before we actually try to
00:55:16
bring them up into becoming the next governor of the fifth
00:55:18
largest economy in the world, okay?
00:55:20
So talking about Ron, DeSantis and Donald Trump Okay, I want.
00:55:28
Sorry, I just was Okay, that's a good night everybody.
00:55:44
So We all want a president that is for us, right?
00:55:53
And we I think we got that in Trump in 2016 and even going
00:55:56
into 2020, I think like, I'm not gonna, I'm not just here to just
00:56:01
bash trunk. I'm a two-time trump voter, and,
00:56:03
and I'll defend it. I will, if I will continue to
00:56:06
defend my votes for him, then can't do it now.
00:56:11
Okay, I cannot in good conscience, get behind a All
00:56:17
potential candidate who raises close to 200 million dollars in
00:56:23
a midterm and only spends 12 million dollars of it on on a
00:56:32
Senate candidate in Pennsylvania who doesn't even live in
00:56:35
Pennsylvania. A former Heisman Trophy pro
00:56:42
football running back who has no experience who Word.
00:56:48
We just lost Arizona. Those are three different.
00:56:50
Trump endorsed candidates that he spent, oh he endorsed him in
00:56:56
the primary and said, see you later.
00:56:58
Bye. I'm going to write, I'm going to
00:56:59
raise more money. We raised over 200 million
00:57:01
dollars and I'll cut you 15 million dollars because of
00:57:04
trump. It because of him, he we aren't,
00:57:08
we do not have the lead in the Senate that literally.
00:57:11
Now, if I were to ask you, who would you want to put Herschel
00:57:16
Herschel Walker over the hump at this moment.
00:57:20
Do you want the guy that has a complete tidal wave in Florida?
00:57:25
Who completely flipped, Miami-Dade who brought in the
00:57:28
African-American? The Latino vote who has no
00:57:32
Democrats in the State Assembly in Florida?
00:57:36
Or do you want the guy who raises hundreds of millions of
00:57:39
dollars can't get over? Voter Integrity in 2020 and
00:57:44
comes with January 6th for every single candidate.
00:57:47
Which one do you want in Georgia?
00:57:49
I can single-handedly make make the case that because of Donald
00:57:54
Trump and he could not help himself, we are with Asif and
00:57:59
Warnock in Georgia because he couldn't he's not discipline.
00:58:04
And look, I wouldn't be so anti-trump for 2024, if Trump
00:58:08
said, hey, you know what, we took Florida, we Some wins and
00:58:13
let's wait until everybody is sworn in.
00:58:15
In January, 3rd, Trump cannot help himself.
00:58:19
He is undisciplined. What was his strength on the
00:58:22
national level with North Korean, Kim jung-eun and, and
00:58:26
Putin, who didn't invade until after Trump, left office is
00:58:30
because our national league. That these world leaders didn't
00:58:34
know what he was going to do. They didn't know if Will trump
00:58:39
give Kim. Jung-eun a bro hug Or is going
00:58:41
to launch missiles in North Korean blown off the face of the
00:58:44
Earth. We didn't know that at that
00:58:46
time, it served us. Well but here locally, we are on
00:58:50
the verge of losing the senate or maybe getting one senate seat
00:58:55
for a guy that hoarded 180 million dollars and help
00:58:59
nominate people who have no experience in office.
00:59:03
Why at this point trumpism Maga has now become almost what like
00:59:10
I used to be a bigger. A door fan, huge Oakland Raider
00:59:13
fan, right? The one thing that would bug the
00:59:15
crap out of me about Raider fans, has it only became about
00:59:18
the logo not about who our general manager was.
00:59:21
Not about the quarterback, and how we were going to drop.
00:59:23
It was only only about the logo. It's now only because that has
00:59:28
become about the Maga brand and I'm sorry.
00:59:31
I am a conservative first, not a trump lookin.
00:59:35
If and I'll tell you hey if Trump said we need to do better
00:59:40
and the Santa's did really well I'm glad I endorsed him.
00:59:46
We're getting stronger and he would have waited like a couple
00:59:50
of months. I have a very hard time as a
00:59:53
probe to Santa's guy. I would say maybe the sand is
00:59:58
but that's just not the case. That's not reality.
01:00:01
And the last thing like there's two things, right?
01:00:04
The first one One is Donald Trump does not have undecided
01:00:09
voters. You either?
01:00:10
He has three of them, you f---ing hate him.
01:00:14
You really like him or you just don't hate him more than cancer.
01:00:19
That's it. That's what Trump has with
01:00:21
DeSantis. He has more undecided voters
01:00:25
because they're like okay all right?
01:00:28
And then number two is, I'll speak into a progressive
01:00:31
liberal, he's a Latino and he's an attorney.
01:00:35
Was it? I will never vote for Trump,
01:00:37
never have don't like the guy but the one thing that I think
01:00:40
why he won is because he had this populist vision of we're
01:00:44
going to bring jobs back to the US, you and Detroit.
01:00:48
We're going to bring the job, we're going to keep jobs here.
01:00:49
Instead of shipping them off to Mexico.
01:00:51
We're going to put tariffs on China so that we can sell them
01:00:54
here and he was this really am. It was genuinely America First
01:00:57
by policy. He's gotten away from that.
01:01:00
It's all about him. It's a it's all about who's who
01:01:03
is who's turned against Him and whose like, how do you, how are
01:01:07
you happy that O'Day lost, how are you?
01:01:10
Happy that a Democrat, beat somebody that you don't like as
01:01:13
a republican. What the hell.
01:01:16
Hmm, like that. Just I just, I can't get behind
01:01:19
that and that's, that's no disrespect to, you know, I
01:01:22
understand where somebody is coming from and I really do is
01:01:25
just from what I see that ship has sailed now, May I ask you a
01:01:29
question, right? Yeah, of course.
01:01:32
So I think it's fair to criticize anyone including
01:01:35
Trump, but is he the only person we should be blaming because my
01:01:41
whole thing is, like, yeah. Criticized Trump.
01:01:44
But we should be willing to criticize everyone.
01:01:46
So, for example, the Trump. Yeah, he endorsed.
01:01:50
And he put a stamp on it. But to my understanding, I'm not
01:01:53
gonna pretend. I know all the inside baseball,
01:01:55
but every single County across every single state, but to mine,
01:01:58
Standing this candidate stepped up to run and, you know, in
01:02:03
addition to like the Trump, you know, endorsement and whatnot.
01:02:08
I mean, I'll, I know he's viewed as like the key-maker, but he's
01:02:11
technically not Empower and he's not in politics, but who are
01:02:16
well in the house you have Kevin McCarthy on the Senate side.
01:02:20
The Republican leader is Mitch McConnell and then the house and
01:02:25
the Senate, they each have their funds, the candidates, you know,
01:02:28
No, they are the endorsed local candidate.
01:02:30
They would have access to potentially additional
01:02:33
resources. Whether that is field, whether
01:02:35
that is money, etcetera, countywide and Statewide.
01:02:40
And so, my whole issue is, yeah, I think there's things, I wished
01:02:45
on the Trump side for his pack. He could've done better to
01:02:47
support candidates, but I think he also did what he could.
01:02:51
Why aren't those same people willing to criticize?
01:02:53
Those people? I mean why what giant the Senate
01:02:56
helped help like Masters in Arizona?
01:02:58
So, my whole concern is like, yeah, I hurry up.
01:03:02
I think it's open feel to criticized Trump, but those same
01:03:06
people are not willing to criticize.
01:03:07
Those people who had full control to be able to help these
01:03:10
people. And in my opinion, you know, if
01:03:13
we, if Republicans didn't have gains, I think Kevin McCarthy
01:03:18
and I think the other Republicans in power who
01:03:20
actually hold the key to help these candidates including the
01:03:24
state parties, including the local counties.
01:03:27
And to be honest, like as Voters as a whole because Republicans
01:03:30
did not vote. So as a voter as an average
01:03:34
human being, they have to bear some responsibility also you
01:03:38
know, so that's my whole thing for willing to precise Trump, we
01:03:40
should be willing to criticize other people.
01:03:42
I don't see that enough and you know what you guys, seriously,
01:03:46
you're right and I almost forgot to say it because I don't think
01:03:49
we kind of got into like the I don't see for the records to
01:03:53
this is going to piss people off to.
01:03:54
But on record, I do want Kevin McCarthy to be a speaker.
01:03:57
So I just want to Put that out there for people are like no not
01:04:00
criticize. I don't I don't and I meant to
01:04:03
say this I think heads Heads deserve to roll, I think Kevin
01:04:08
McCarthy's a good dude. You know what?
01:04:09
I think he's extraordinary at. I think Kevin McCarthy is so
01:04:13
underrated at raising money, he's great, but that's why we
01:04:18
need him. The best fundraiser, he's the
01:04:19
best. What?
01:04:20
No hands down. One of the best fundraisers, but
01:04:24
what happened in the loss? Like, Heads need to roll Kevin
01:04:30
McCarthy McConnell Rana, McDaniels is so out of touch,
01:04:36
all of that. Like if this was pro football
01:04:39
and you were expected to go 14 and 2 and make it into the
01:04:44
Champions AFC Championship game and you end up going ate and ate
01:04:48
and Limp into the wild cards football, speak The Following
01:04:53
Season. Everybody would be gone.
01:04:55
Should be gone. And that I'm not just Trump but
01:05:00
Trump is a major player in it McCarthy the fact that we could
01:05:06
possibly lose the Katey Porter. And you know you mentioned it
01:05:12
earlier and I know at the last California GOP convention,
01:05:16
they're talking about how we gain for how we have four
01:05:18
Republican? See yeah.
01:05:19
We got them back and I was saying back then at some point
01:05:24
we need to start celebrating new things.
01:05:26
Not things that we got back and I'll tell you, Michelle steals,
01:05:29
husband, look, this isn't personal, right?
01:05:32
Because we're talking politics. The one thing that really,
01:05:34
really blew me away. I I wanted to walk out of that
01:05:38
cuz I think you were a couple of rows behind me when He started
01:05:41
celebrating our recall. And how many volunteers that we
01:05:44
had? I'm like, with all due respect,
01:05:47
mr. Steele, you are so out of touch,
01:05:49
we'd lost the governorship by 30 points.
01:05:52
To a governor who is who is completely unpopular.
01:05:56
You have nobody that is set up to go against him in 2022.
01:06:02
You have nobody who's coming close to winning on the state
01:06:06
level. So what what?
01:06:07
What? Dude?
01:06:08
This is what I was expecting of here I go.
01:06:10
What they're doing wrong. Here's what they should have
01:06:12
done. What we should have said is,
01:06:15
here's what we started. We did great at getting more
01:06:20
volunteers and registering more voters, great.
01:06:24
But the work is not done. We have to realize that we are
01:06:27
not winning offices and we got to do it and I can't do it
01:06:30
without you. And if I'm him I'm calling out
01:06:33
all the central, committee's the big ones, San Diego, Orange
01:06:37
County. There is tons of work to be
01:06:40
done. Because right now we are not
01:06:41
getting the job done. I'm sorry right now, McCarthy
01:06:45
speech the other day. So, tone deaf.
01:06:47
He was speak and you can kind of tell it in his, in his
01:06:50
mannerisms, that he was getting ready for the Red Wave.
01:06:53
It didn't happen and now it has to fall on someone.
01:06:56
It has to Like, yeah, and you're right, I agree with you Cynthia,
01:07:02
we need new leadership. But then the question is who
01:07:05
would replace Kevin McCarthy can McCarthy is a great fundraiser
01:07:09
that we need but not when it comes to Bringing people over
01:07:13
the finish line and Rican candidate recruitment.
01:07:16
Yeah. So and to be very clear for
01:07:19
things like that, that is inner party stuff so it will be very
01:07:22
wild. And if you are on Twitter
01:07:25
apparently, reportedly Kevin McCarthy, actually does not have
01:07:28
the It's to be speaker, which is right, which I'm very shocked
01:07:31
by. So I fully expect it to be
01:07:34
extremely interesting on the Senate and the Republican side.
01:07:38
Who knows? Maybe I know that so there's all
01:07:40
these names popping up, right? So we'll see.
01:07:42
But again, I want to I want to say something real quick though.
01:07:46
I saw some criticism of McCarthy that I do not agree with and I
01:07:49
will not stand by it. His his unwillingness to in to
01:07:56
was it his unwillingness. For impeachment of Joe.
01:08:01
Biden, or was it Joe B. No, unwillingness to certify the
01:08:05
alive. Forget what it was.
01:08:07
And I go, that's not flying. No, no.
01:08:09
Like he, like, it's like, people get pissed off at, Mike Pence,
01:08:12
certified? The election?
01:08:13
Like you have to do that like that that's not reasonable,
01:08:16
right? My thing is, is you are not
01:08:19
helping Republicans get elected, you're only helping them fund
01:08:21
raise and that's not getting us anywhere.
01:08:24
Yeah, yeah. Well it doesn't matter to me
01:08:27
because I'm all in on Dave Smith in 2024.
01:08:30
So Dave Smith, there's some people who are watching right
01:08:34
now who know who I'm talking about.
01:08:37
But yeah, I I think I thought about this the other night when
01:08:41
I was driving home and I was listening to Mark Levin, he was
01:08:44
talking about how Miami-Dade had gone red and I thought I heard
01:08:50
that on the radio and I went Is that right?
01:08:53
Miami-Dade the Democratic stronghold.
01:08:56
The one where that essentially made Florida a swing state for a
01:09:01
long time because they would just get the numbers out.
01:09:05
A county that Rhonda, Santa's lost by 20 points.
01:09:10
I think when he first ran and now he won it by eight points or
01:09:16
something. I'm just someone who looks at
01:09:19
that and goes, that's an incredible turnaround to do that
01:09:24
in a county that you lost by 20 points.
01:09:27
And now you turn around eight points.
01:09:29
And I'm not one of those people who, you know, you see all these
01:09:32
people who think like that like like presidential races are like
01:09:39
bringing up baseball players from the minors.
01:09:41
Oh well we can't bring them up this year.
01:09:43
He's not ready. You know he needs more
01:09:46
development so we'll save them. For next year in politics, you
01:09:50
don't have that luxury of a will save this person for the next
01:09:54
election. You strike, while the Iron's hot
01:09:58
and I just feel like right now Rhonda Santa is, is he's the new
01:10:04
hotness, you know, and he turns out in 2026.
01:10:07
So what are you going to do for two years in 2028?
01:10:11
You're going to have a former Governor sidelined.
01:10:14
Toby just sitting around doing nothing.
01:10:16
So I think And then you can have a geriatric old president who I
01:10:20
like, right? He's going to be turning 80.
01:10:23
So how are we going to criticize Biden for being 80?
01:10:25
But yet, we're going to support Trump for being 80.
01:10:27
Like, That's my right leg. Again, these are tangible.
01:10:32
This isn't personal at all. I'm just you know you know what
01:10:35
I mean? Like I'm not trying to be
01:10:36
postmodern hate the guy, I'm just saying the best foot
01:10:39
forward and those are my reasons.
01:10:41
Yeah and I I just think you just got to play the hot hand and if
01:10:45
you have someone who's who's coming up and they're this
01:10:49
popular and they've turned Florida from a, what was a swing
01:10:52
state, which was every election cycle.
01:10:55
Everyone's like, oh, we're which weighs Florida.
01:10:57
That's the big one. Florida is now a A bright red
01:11:00
shining beacon on the East Coast.
01:11:02
It is just, it is unbelievable. What happened with Florida?
01:11:07
It is no longer. A swing state is absolutely red
01:11:10
and you look at, he's the top of the ticket people showed up to
01:11:14
vote for Ron. DeSantis people of different
01:11:17
ethnicities, races genders, everything parties, they all
01:11:21
showed up to vote down ballot for him as well.
01:11:24
And he obviously buoyed down-ballot how seats were
01:11:28
flipped Did a great job so I you know you just look at and go in
01:11:34
politics, you play the hot hand who gets hot.
01:11:37
The scientist is really hot right now.
01:11:39
I think Trump is kind of shooting himself in the foot
01:11:42
today. I saw this tweet about him
01:11:46
putting out this press statement, all about Ron de
01:11:49
santis and he's just been attacking Ron.
01:11:51
And I don't, I don't understand why, like, I guess he's a
01:11:56
threat, he's a threat. Well, yeah, he's a threat with
01:11:59
the Barbie. Signed his name, he's not Joe
01:12:00
Biden, he's not Hillary Clinton's, he's got to attack
01:12:02
his own. That's and that to me, seems
01:12:05
odd. That is Trump in it for them.
01:12:10
Not so he's in it for his Brandy.
01:12:11
I'm not for someone who's like, you have to be a party.
01:12:14
Loyalist, everyone who watches knows.
01:12:15
I'm not a party. Loyalist.
01:12:17
Right? Right.
01:12:17
But if you're going to pretend, you're the head of the
01:12:19
Republican party, then you have to do a little bit of trying to
01:12:24
rally and lead. The Republican party if you want
01:12:27
to be the party of trump. And the Go party it, go ahead
01:12:30
and go do the Maga party and you can critique the Republicans and
01:12:33
Rhonda Santos, all you want, but if you're going to be the de
01:12:36
facto head of the Republican party and the leader and the
01:12:40
face of it, that's fair. Maybe don't attack one of your
01:12:44
rising stars and and it just seems odd that it's coming at
01:12:49
this time and I don't know, I think people are just getting
01:12:52
tired of it so I liked what Trump did.
01:12:55
I was a trump fan, I'm still a trump fan but I just think He's
01:12:59
done what he needed to do, which was wake up a lot of people to
01:13:03
what was going on in the government populism.
01:13:07
All these no idea, you know, bringing jobs back home and and
01:13:11
let me tell you if DeSantis started interacting with him and
01:13:14
started playing these Petty games, it would make me very
01:13:17
unhappy. That's number one and then if it
01:13:20
continued and they were both going at each other, then my
01:13:22
next step is we need to start looking at guys like Tim Scott.
01:13:25
That's what I would say. Well I'll be honest.
01:13:28
Yeah no go ahead since I was like because I even know like
01:13:31
I'm a big Ron fan. I'm not going to play double
01:13:34
standard. If Ron started doing the same
01:13:36
thing that Trump is, I say that I think we got to go over to Tim
01:13:39
Scott, Batman. Let's look at him.
01:13:41
Let's look at that would. No, not down, not down Crenshaw,
01:13:44
but you know, somebody Marco Rubio, you know, I would start
01:13:47
looking at other people because the guy that I really like, is
01:13:50
now attacking somebody else. We need true leadership.
01:13:54
Yeah, well, I think it. they'll be telling to see if if DeSantis
01:14:00
responds to Trump or he just stays Above The Fray, Because if
01:14:06
he doesn't kind of get down in the mud with Trump, then that
01:14:10
like you're saying that could be the leadership, we're looking
01:14:12
for. Go ahead Cynthia.
01:14:15
So in my opinion, I think that Trump is basically trying to,
01:14:20
you know, clear the field, right?
01:14:23
That's what I don't again even though I work for oan, I don't
01:14:27
know. I don't have inside baseball and
01:14:29
Trump World, right? But if I were to guess I'm
01:14:32
assuming because again I've known for a while he was
01:14:35
probably going to run. You know I think my not I would
01:14:40
assume he's just trying to clear the primary and so that being
01:14:43
said, You know, Ray brings up a good point.
01:14:48
I think it's, I think it's very interesting to see, but like
01:14:50
that, for him for Ray, like, you know, the tax system, whatnot,
01:14:54
that's something that is very important to him and his values
01:14:58
on you know, who he would prefer to be the nominee.
01:15:03
Again, I think it's very early but I fully fully and again, I
01:15:08
don't know if the Santa's will do it but you know, Trump
01:15:12
started it. But I also So, I mean, I'm be
01:15:15
honest. Like, when things start to pick
01:15:17
up, you know, I could perceive Rhonda Santa's doing the same
01:15:22
thing clapping back. And, you know, I just, I think
01:15:26
it'll be, I don't want it to be like this.
01:15:29
But, you know, I thought the 2016 Republican primary was
01:15:33
Bloody, I did not think we could ever see anything that bad.
01:15:38
I foresee the 2024 primary on, there will be between two people
01:15:41
for book. Yeah.
01:15:45
And I could also, I know we talked focused more on Ron
01:15:49
DeSantis and doll and Donald Trump I could see them to having
01:15:53
at it too. And I think when things pick up
01:15:56
I could see Ron the stances, you know, clap back, he has it in
01:16:00
him. So I just want to 444 and you re
01:16:03
I don't force Iran like kicking back and just letting Trump have
01:16:06
at it. I could also for see him also
01:16:07
doing the same thing, you know, I think you're right, but I
01:16:11
think because Ron is and I don't think I'm saying this as a fan
01:16:15
boy. Either I think because Ron has
01:16:18
been a sitting Congressman, he's going on his second term.
01:16:22
He literally has more of that political experience, where he
01:16:26
is more measured. He's more disciplined and he has
01:16:29
more policy that he can. Excuse me.
01:16:33
Well what he has he has policy that he can defend.
01:16:36
Right? So he can say something like you
01:16:39
know he can clap back and say I'm not the guy that kept dr.
01:16:42
Fauci. I'm the guy that kept my stayed
01:16:43
open. I'm not the guy that, you know,
01:16:47
that, you know, the facts scene started with you, I gave people
01:16:51
the option and I can even make the, I mean, I can make the case
01:16:54
that that Rhonda Santa's has governed more conservatively
01:16:58
than Donald Trump. Because if you notice Donald
01:17:00
Trump's not going to tack Rhonda Santa's on a Policy level,
01:17:03
because I don't think Ron, I don't think Trump is going to
01:17:05
win that. Hmm.
01:17:09
Yeah, Special sidenote. Shout out to Yvonne Uribe who
01:17:14
said Thomas Massie should be speaker of the house and I fully
01:17:18
support Thomas Massie Bean speaker of the house even though
01:17:21
that would never happen. But that was well, that was a
01:17:24
name that was tossed around. Yeah.
01:17:26
However, before they read. Yeah, so I fully for seed that I
01:17:31
never thought, I always kind of assumed Mitch McConnell and
01:17:34
Kevin McCarthy. Like I thought, I'll be honest,
01:17:36
I thought these inner Fights on the Republican side, really
01:17:38
stupid. Because part of it.
01:17:40
I was like they're both pretty undefeatable.
01:17:43
I like, I think it's stupid for us to bicker over this as a
01:17:48
voter, but now that it's in play, you know, we'll just need
01:17:51
to see what happens. Yeah.
01:17:54
Well, I'm a fan of Thomas Massie.
01:17:56
So he'd be a very short. I don't know.
01:17:57
I don't know much. I mean I haven't I like I know
01:18:01
for example, I know more about Dan Crenshaw because I follow
01:18:03
him on Instagram, right? Like I'm a I know about doesn't
01:18:07
mean make Fan or one way or the other, I just know of Dan
01:18:10
because of that, right? I don't follow Massey enough to
01:18:14
have an opinion, he's more libertarian minded but he's I
01:18:18
think he's part of the actually, I don't know.
01:18:21
I think he is part of the freedom caucus but he's more
01:18:23
libertarian minded but he is I like him too.
01:18:27
He's definitely, I think you would appreciate him right?
01:18:29
So I definitely yeah probably. So all right, well time will
01:18:36
tell You know, it's funny thing about politics that I always
01:18:41
think to myself, I say, oh, once we get through an election
01:18:43
cycle, I don't know if it'll ever be as exciting as this
01:18:45
election cycle, and then I'm absolutely Blown Away by the
01:18:50
next election cycle, which just keeps getting weirder and
01:18:52
weirder and crazier and crazier. I presume reason, I always
01:18:56
thought after Obama left office that things would get boring
01:18:59
again and things got way more exciting after Obama left then I
01:19:04
could ever imagine. So we have a lot.
01:19:08
Look forward to 2024 is coming up.
01:19:11
And yeah, you know, we'll keep our eyes on the races here.
01:19:17
Going on in California one side, I just want to give a shout out
01:19:22
to San Diego, and hat tip to Mayor Richard, Bailey who
01:19:27
pointed this out? To me, that San Diego performed
01:19:30
very well for a coastal city in California in terms of
01:19:34
conservatism Brian Dolly own. Only by nine points in San
01:19:42
Diego. So, I just want to point that
01:19:44
out. See, that's what you get when
01:19:46
you're not when you're not polarizing.
01:19:48
Like, when you're not polarizing, that's what that's
01:19:50
your starting base right there. Yeah, Lonnie Chen, it was 50 to
01:19:54
49 percent. Again in solid solarizing he's a
01:19:59
good dude. Yeah Lonnie Chen's great.
01:20:02
So you look at a lot of these races and you go there's
01:20:05
potential you know it's it's easy to see the results and go
01:20:11
we're doomed. But you have to look under the
01:20:13
surface and you have to look at how close these races are and go
01:20:17
man, if we just had five more percentage points, whole
01:20:22
different ball game. So that's my takeaway for
01:20:24
tonight. Any final thoughts?
01:20:27
From either of you guys before we sign off for the night
01:20:29
because it's been almost an hour and a half and I knew we'd have
01:20:33
no problem game an hour of content and tonight and we got
01:20:36
almost an hour and a half. So My well, my last thought is,
01:20:42
as you guys can see who are watching and tuning in where we
01:20:46
all agree on some things, we all disagree on some things and
01:20:50
guess what? At the end the day we are still
01:20:53
friends and I hope that, you know, we all of us are different
01:20:57
on who we would want between the two 2024.
01:21:01
And then there's some people that like this person for the
01:21:03
speaker and some did it. So, I just wanted to point that
01:21:06
out there. These two are still my friends.
01:21:08
And you know, everyone has a right to change their opinion,
01:21:12
any point and had a great time tonight.
01:21:16
Yeah, right. Yeah, no, I really appreciate
01:21:21
you having me. I, you know, I'm very I am
01:21:25
disappointed by by the results. I think that there needs to be a
01:21:30
leadership change and not just for the sake of, having a
01:21:34
leadership change both on the state and federal level, there
01:21:39
needs to be Leadership that has proven experience, that knows
01:21:45
how to not only fundraise, but can also Elevate candidates and
01:21:53
not and non polarizing candidates and Recruitment and
01:21:58
recruitment at the hyper local level at the assembly level.
01:22:02
And I think we need to see a very targeted.
01:22:09
Strategy. Why we brought up earlier where
01:22:12
we're targeting Independence? When it doesn't have, it can be
01:22:15
nonpartisan literature that are our talking points, do we want
01:22:20
effective? Police do we want, you know,
01:22:24
better business climate, you know, things like that targeting
01:22:28
specifically Independence. And that's what we should look
01:22:31
for. And I, you know, last thing, I
01:22:33
think, you know, when we go to Convention, In what April in
01:22:39
Sacramento coming in and March and March, yeah, coming up.
01:22:44
You know what? The last convention I went to, I
01:22:48
think, two conventions ago, I said we need to focus on our
01:22:51
assembly. Race is because I think we can
01:22:53
pick up one or two. The one that I mentioned and he
01:22:56
actually texted me that he goes. Hey Ray, look at this was Joe
01:23:00
Patterson. Before Joe Patterson knew he was
01:23:03
running for assembly. I said we should Target guys
01:23:07
like Joe Pass. Person because we need to at
01:23:09
least pick up one or two assembly seats, and we're
01:23:12
possibly going to pick up to assembly seats.
01:23:14
Right? So now, going into our next
01:23:17
convention, we need to come with the plan.
01:23:19
What is our next plan to help in 2024?
01:23:22
Number one, Target Independence. Number two, better candidate
01:23:26
Recruitment and I'd even add a number three.
01:23:28
Start taking either control or influence on city council races
01:23:34
and school boards. And County supervisor and a lot
01:23:38
of boards and all that Planning Group Health Care, so Works.
01:23:42
No, you're actually right, actually, you're right.
01:23:45
And I want to hammer at that way here.
01:23:48
In Yolo County, I think two or three supervisors are weak ones.
01:23:54
Not seeking re-election, and two are retiring.
01:23:57
And I told my chairman, hey, did you know about this?
01:23:59
And he goes, he'll know, I didn't know about this, and we
01:24:04
want to know as a Central Committee Mitty, how do we
01:24:07
target that? Because they the supervisor, I
01:24:09
think have a bigger dish to have a really big District.
01:24:13
What is the strategy behind that?
01:24:14
Because supervisors are a big deal and here in Yolo County,
01:24:19
working on school boards, there is a possibility that Yolo,
01:24:23
County GOP, that we have. We're going to have at least
01:24:27
three to four conservatives on school board and city council.
01:24:32
And now what Cynthia said, we want to now focus on Um
01:24:37
supervisor and I'm very curious on how to do that.
01:24:39
So I hope that something that we touch on next convention.
01:24:42
How do we target our supervisors seats?
01:24:46
They make a big play. They make a big difference.
01:24:49
Yep, we have to, we have to and I'll end it like this.
01:24:54
We respectively have to have tangible goals that we can
01:25:00
really, as that make us feel like we're part of it, right?
01:25:04
Like School Board. Oh, I can run walk.
01:25:06
For school board. Oh, I can walk for supervisor.
01:25:08
We have to have that going into convention.
01:25:12
Absolutely, I agree with it. A lot of what you guys said.
01:25:17
So great show tonight, always great.
01:25:20
Having you guys on definitely got a lot of content in and
01:25:24
we'll be picking through the results and continue to talk
01:25:27
about this. So as always like I like to and
01:25:30
every single show, if you liked what you heard, make sure you
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text at least one friend and say, hey, this was a pretty cool
01:25:38
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01:25:42
So if you want to follow either Ray or Cynthia they're up there
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are your Twitter handles. So go follow them there Ray has
01:25:53
a lot of great Insight. I like liking a lot of his
01:25:55
posts. So with that said, have a good
01:25:59
night. Everybody will see you on the
01:26:01
next one. Thank you.
01:26:02
And Cynthia, mahalo. Goodnight everybody.
01:26:07
Good night. Goodnight everybody.
01:26:07
Good night.