Episode 180 - Should You Be Blindly Loyal to the Republican Party?

Episode 180 - Should You Be Blindly Loyal to the Republican Party?

Every Wednesday morning at 9am on Instagram, I go live and discuss California Politics over coffee.

On this episode I the scandal around the racist remarks made by LA City Council members, and we discuss an article in American Greatness that basically asks for blind loyalty to the Republican Party when voting so that you don't "split the vote."

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Links Mentioned in the Show

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/president-joe-biden-calls-for-resignation-of-three-la-council-members-following-racist-audio-recording/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/27/will-libertarian-candidates-again-deny-gop-the-u-s-senate/

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If you're a California, conservative a Libertarian, a

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moderate Democrat. Believe in common sense or just

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the same person. This is the political podcast

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for you. It's the California underground

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podcast. What's going on?

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Good morning everybody. Thanks for tuning in to another

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episode of coffee and California politics.

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Today is gonna be a little bit weird but like a mish-mosh.

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Oh, we're gonna talk about some new stuff.

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What's going on? Also, this article that I was

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reading American greatness and I'm just going to give you a

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free warning for people. If you haven't tuned in to the

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show or you haven't been following that long, I'm just

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going to preface this by saying. If you know me, I know, you know

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that I call out the Republican Party a lot mostly because I

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believe there is plenty of room for improvement and that's

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really what frustrates me is that.

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There is a lot of room for improvement.

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I am not by any means a blind loyalists.

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I'm not someone who is going to just vote red, no matter what,

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you know, I'm not one of those people.

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I've always told all of my listeners and all my fault.

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Course, you should always do your own research.

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It just so happens that a lot of the stuff that I like or that, I

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support the policies that export happened to end up in the

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Republican party. So I do end up supporting a lot

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of Republicans. That doesn't mean I am a blind

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Loyola, so doesn't mean I'm just going to go, oh, you're a

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republican. Okay, so we're going to go over

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an article today in American greatness where they, that's

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what they're asking. They're asking you to just

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basically be a blind loyalists to the Republican Party.

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And I don't agree with it. I think it's really kind of

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weird how they wrote it but we're gonna get into that in a

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little bit. We're going to talk a little bit

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about the LA City Council. What is going on right now?

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Funny enough as it always turns out Democrats, who always say

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everyone else is a racist and they call you a racist.

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Just based on the fact that you are Republican or that you don't

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agree with them or you're not a Democrat turns out, three of the

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LA City Council Council, people actually are racist.

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So now it's gotten all the way up to Former Vice President, Joe

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Biden is now through his press secretary, Kareem Jean, Pierre

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has said that it's time for them to resign and then that's

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basically what we're going to talk about today.

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So in some announcements October 29th, I'm very excited to be a

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part of this event with Anthony cabassa.

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It's the freedom or Revival event, we're going to be doing

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it here in the Waterfront Park in San Diego, you can check

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Freedom Revival, they're putting up a whole bunch of stuff about

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it. I'm Very honored to be part of

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the team, Amy and Anthony are going to be interviewing.

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All of the candidates, they're supposed to be an enormous

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turnout of people. So I'm very excited about that.

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I'm going to be posting more. If you want to learn more about,

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you can go to Freedom Revival events and they're going to,

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they have all the stuff over there.

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It's going to be a great event. I'm very excited about it.

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And again, I'm very honored to be asked to be a part of it and

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interview, a lot of the candidates people like Lonnie

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Chan. I believe.

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They were Brian Dolly are going to be there a lot, big

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Statewide. Are going to be there so where

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it's going to be a big event. It's not going to be some

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rinky-dink little event. There's going to be some big

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names. So thank you Camille.

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Yeah go Freedom revile events check that out tomorrow night

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Cynthia and I are going to be breaking down to more

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propositions for you prop 1 and prop 30.

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I think there's enough to talk about what the two of those prop

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one is regarding the Constitutional Amendment

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basically legalizing abortion all the way up through.

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Through delivery. So we're going to talk about

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that and then when prop 30 is the one talking about, what's

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the one, that's the one where they want to tax people, over

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two million dollars to help pay for electric, cars and electric

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infrastructure, stuff like that, and ironically it or not.

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Ironically, it's funny enough, that noodles doesn't even

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support it. He's come out against it, which

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is odd that he's come out against the taxable.

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Talk about why he has kind of come out against this.

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It's not necessarily because he's against taxes, it's it's

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again. Just let me say it's against how

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it's being done. I guess lift is behind it.

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They're going to get a big benefit.

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So we said, hey what are your thoughts on?

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Dave Smith's endorsement of Blake Masters.

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I hadn't seen it is. Blake Masters, who is Blake

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Masters is he the Republican running for Senate over in

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Arizona if any boy obviously pays attention I do talk about

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Dave Smith a lot. So yeah, if Dave Smith the

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libertarian endorse them I'd be interested to learn more about

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that. That I didn't know he had

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endorsed him or that he said anything about if you correct me

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if I'm wrong I think Blake Masters is the Republican

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running. So that's a big deal if a one of

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the most prominent voices I would say the most prominent

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voice in the libertarian party. Dave Smith came out and endorsed

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Blake Masters. That's a pretty big deal and

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we're going to talk about that today.

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Sort of the issue of Libertarians and where do they

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lie and do they end up hurting Republicans?

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Or do they end up hurting Democrats when they run?

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And that's we're going to talk about in this article.

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But we want to get to plenty of time for you guys to talk and

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chat because that's the point of coffee in California politics.

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That's been more on a reason why I listen to everyone.

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So I haven't checked out all of them.

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So, Today's roast is still Blackbeard's Delight from Black

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Rifle coffee. I'm not sponsored by Black Rifle

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coffee, but if they want to sponsor, I'd be more than happy

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to. So, let's talk about this first

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story and then we're gonna get into the big article that I

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really want to dive into not necessarily California politics.

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But I really do want to talk about because there is an issue

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with sort of blind loyalty when it comes to the Republican

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Party, especially here in California.

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I think there is an issue of blind loyalty and why especially

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in California with California GOP?

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We should Doing a lot better. So this is an article President

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Biden calls for resignation of La council members following

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races audio recording during a press conference on Tuesday,

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President. Joe Biden calls for the

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resignation of Los Angeles City, Council Members nury Martinez.

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Kevin De Leon and Gil cedillo as the LA racist recording.

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Kind of Scandal continues to grow the audio recording which

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then city council Nora Martinez who just recently stepped down

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as president city, councilman Kevin De Lyon and Gil cedillo

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and Los Angeles County Federation of Labor, president

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Ron, Herrera are all talking about redistricting who should

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replace a city council member and other topics.

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However, strong racial comments, especially by Martinez and de

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Lyon kept arising during the audio including Martinez calling

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the young black child of fellow councilman Mike.

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Bonin a monkey. Well, she said it in Spanish,

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but it came out as monkey released on Sunday, the news of

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the recording spread fast and went from local to national news

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with an H quote, this has been one of the most difficult times

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in my life and I recognize this Entirely my own making said

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Martinez, an estate statement on Tuesday.

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At this moment, I need to take a leave of absence and take some

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time to have an honest, and heartfelt conversation with my

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family. My constituents and Community

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leaders. I am so sorry to the residents

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of council District, Six, my colleagues and the city of Los

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Angeles. So she's taken a leave of

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absence. She has not resigned.

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She stepped down as president, which a lot of people were

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saying was not good enough. That you step down as president,

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but you're still city council members.

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So you still get all the benefits of being a city council

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member, you're just not present anymore.

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But the bigger story that a lot of people, I'm sure have picked

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up on, is you've set the rules and you've set these standards

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and this is exactly what it is. Is, if you say something racist,

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if you condone something racist, if you're in the room and

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something racist happens, and you don't immediately jump up

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and say like, stop, this is racist Behavior.

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I won't stand for it, then you obviously are going to get

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cancelled. I For example, one of my guilty

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pleasures, is the bachelor and Chris Harrison got kicked off of

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a show that he had been on for 20 years, because he simply said

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that the girl was who was pictured in a Southern

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plantation ball or something. It's something I had to do a

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college was like a tradition, it goes all the way back simply

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because he said, maybe we should give her a chance to explain.

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Herself that got him fired from a job that he had held down

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regularly for over 20 years. So it just shows you that this

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is the standard. So even if you say, hey, hold on

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a sec. Let's play maybe, maybe we

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should just take a minute and figure this out.

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That will get you canceled. So enough that if you've been

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caught on tape, obviously you should be cancelled and be able

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to Kevin The own who didn't really jump up and say anything

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should be canceled and they should be rude.

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That's the standard you've set. Now, of course, the higher-ups

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are falling in line, the higher-ups are pushing a lot of

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pressure on to the city council and Eric Garcetti, no one really

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cares about you. If you want to talk about

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someone who flout his own rules and doesn't lose by, he knows

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his own standards. Eric Garcetti, you know, we all

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know mask a over at the Super Bowl with its Super Bowl in the

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Super Bowl or the the Pionship game in La, we all know that

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he's not that big on his own standards.

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He said that he wants them to step down and he said I'll swim

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my remaining days at City Hall. Moving kindness, transparency

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and respect as core values of our city.

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This is the time to not only stand up to things.

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We are against but to do the hard work of bringing about the

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things we are for sadly. He's probably spending the last

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couple days thinking about how he did not get that Ambassador

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shipped Andy like he was expecting however the largest

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named And in the resignation joined in, on Tuesday afternoon,

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President Joe Biden, in a rare move to call for the resignation

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of officials at the local level Biden through White House,

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bracket press secretary Korean Jean-Pierre firmly.

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Put the highest office in the nation against the three council

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members, the president's, glad to see that one of the

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participants in the conversation has resigned but he believes

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they should all resign. Noah jump here in a press

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briefing. The language that was used in

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tolerate during the conversation was unacceptable and Pauline, he

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believes they should all step down the New Hope.

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High-profile lawmakers asking for the resignation has led to

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many believe, resignation is no longer a matter of if but when

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so obviously you can't continue on their all three of them are

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likely going to resign at some point and they're going to be

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held to the same standard. So, That's how it should they

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created the rules. If Democrats want to create the

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rules and they want to create these standards, guess what?

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And you have to play by your own standards and obviously what

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Nora Martinez said and what all of them say was disgusting, but

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sorry you said you set the stage and that's it.

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You should be removed from office.

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You should resign. So with that sorry said, it's

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just it's always interesting and I think a lot of people on the

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right are probably saying that. It's funny hearing Democrats who

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are always about anti-racism and all of these Issues around race

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and then all of a sudden behind closed doors, they are a whole

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different set of people and that they talked a whole different

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way. So Keep following that story.

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I assume they'll probably. I pretty much assume that

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they're going to resign, at some point.

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They can't hide behind closed doors.

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They hit their face. A whole bunch of protesters most

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recently. So, let's talk about this

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article. That way, I can get a lot of

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your points and what you guys think about this?

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Because I want to hear your points about this and you can

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say whether I'm right, whether I'm wrong, but I think this is,

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this is one to chew on the title of the article and this is from

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Can greatness will libertarian candidates again deny GOP.

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The US Senate? It's not necessarily I that's

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what I want to focus on. I wanna focus on the language

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and the logic that this author uses.

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The author uses this logic that to me is just abysmal.

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That's the best way to put it. It's really, really bad logic.

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In terms of how you're trying to make your argument, you he

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doesn't really make an argument outside of well, this Is the way

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things are. And therefore, you should just

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vote Republican. So it's gonna be a lot of

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reading, but I want to jump in and talk about stuff, the

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political political reality in America.

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Is that of a two-party system? Embracing.

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This reality means, if you want to change the political

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direction of the nation, you have to transform one of the

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major parties. I agree with that, I would agree

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with that. I think there's plenty of

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chances to reform the major parties and there's number of

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ways you can do that. There's number of ways you can,

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Involved in your central committee meetings there's ways

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you can get involved as delegates into your your

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preferred party. You can get involved in your

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party and change it and this is one thing that I always have

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applauded. The Libertarians for is what

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they did with the mises caucus and how they changed the party.

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They saw that their party was going in a completely offshoot

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direction that had nothing to do with Liberty anymore.

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When you have Joe jorgeson, who was the libertarian candidate in

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2020 saying, it's not enough to be rich.

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This, what we must be actively anti-racist or something to that

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effect. They went ahead and did it.

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They said, look, we're going to change our party.

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I think the problem is that there's a lot of in it's a

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little bit harder and Republican Democrat Party has a lot of

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power and a lot of money but I would agree with that.

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You can change your to parties. And so his his opening statement

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is that, if you want to do something, you have to change

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one of the two parties denying this Reality by As a third-party

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candidate can also transform the political direction of the

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nation but it's unlikely to change in the direction.

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The third-party candidate wants to go.

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Third party can it's rarely win elections but they're very good

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at splitting. The vote You hear that line?

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A lot here, that line, a lot of people who say, well, don't vote

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for X, because it will split the vote if which does happen in

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some, which does happen in some instances, there are people who

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do funnel votes away but that's his really, his own argument is

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that it does split the votes and therefore, because of that, You

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should not really pay attention to third-party candidates or

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third parties at all. Like here are your two choices.

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Don't listen don't listen to these parties over here, trying

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to bring stuff up and trying to bring up issues.

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Just look at these two parties and you have to take one area

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other, you have to choose the two lesser of two evils.

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You know, you have to choose between a crap sandwich and a

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turd burger. That's really your choices and

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and that's it. If you want to change them and

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you wanted that's up to you, you got to do the work.

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But right now, these are the two choices and you got to go with

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it. This is only in the context of

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which the national libertarian party, the party of principle is

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relevant in America. Today, this party, with its

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principled candidates Above All Else, believes in limited

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government. It's a good start, I believe in

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limited government, you would think that Republicans also

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believe in limited government correct, which is to say they

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oppose socialism and voila. When you split the

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anti-socialist vote the Socialist, when's it shouldn't

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be necessary to defend Republicans.

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Is Democrats right now. The fact that Republicans are

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not democrats should be enough. That right there is probably one

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of the worst lines that I read in this whole thing.

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It should be necessary to find Republicans versus Democrats

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right now. The fact that Republicans are

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not democrats, should be enough. They should be enough.

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That's it. Basically, the you right there

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is basically the entire platform of the California GOP, we're not

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Democrats so vote for us because we're not Democrats.

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Does that sound like a compelling platform?

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A compelling political platform that you can jump on it.

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You can get behind and say look I want a vote for this party

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because they're not Democrats. What else do I stand for?

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I don't know. Do they stand for the nuclear

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family? Maybe do they stand for limited

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government? I don't know.

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Could be, do they stand for? Do they stand for reducing the

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spending and cutting back agencies?

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Maybe but they're not Democrats. Remember that's the biggest

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thing as long as they're not Democrats, that's all that

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matters. Even if I Republicans are just

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rhinos, there's that word again we all love that word, rhinos,

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they generally vote with their party on the major issues and in

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any case, when Republicans control the senate or house,

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they have control over the budget, the court appointees and

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the investigations over all Republicans tend to approve less

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damaging legislation than Democrats.

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Hm. Less damaging legislation than

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Democrats meaning. So they support or they pass

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damaging legislation. It's not that bad, it's not

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really that bad man. Is that it's not really that

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bad. I don't know why you guys are

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really getting kind of like all like why are you getting all

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upset because it's less damaging than whatever the Democrats are

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doing. So you should take that just

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take that and this whole idea that rhinos, they But with the

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party on major issues and case we have seen that since the kind

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of split between the establishment GOP and the Maga

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party, that's not necessarily always true anymore, right?

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It's now become if your maggot, your one type of Republican and

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if you're an establishment, you're a whole different type of

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Republican. If you're a Mitt Romney, if

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you're a Liz Cheney, if you're Adam kinzinger, you have these

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Republicans who are going to gum up the works and they're not

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going to vote for stuff, right? Right.

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Like they're, you know, Susan Collins is another one Lisa

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murkowski. You think of all these

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Republicans who are rhinos, they're not Deadlocks.

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For all of this legislation. They don't always vote with the

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party. And if the party is changing to

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a more of a populist, conservative sort of viewpoint,

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these rhinos and these established Republicans don't

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always vote the way you want them to.

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So this idea of what we've, we just vote all in Republicans

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will be a lot better or it will be less damaging than Democrats

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again. What put that on a bumper

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sticker vote, Republican less, damaging than Democrats.

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We're still going to screw you but we're going to screw you a

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little lesson. It's going to be a little nicer

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guys. Really winning me over here with

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these excellent. Excellent points of why I should

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vote for Republican just because just vote Republican.

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This is reality. This is politics in America.

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Consider the Republican Leaders with national stature today.

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Then compare them to democratic Leaders with comparable

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visibility and influence. Maybe some of these Republicans

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are rough around the edges or don't agree with you or with

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each other on every issue. So what which gang do you want

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running the country? If you're a populist,

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conservative, conservative, or even if your libertarian, the

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choice should be easy, right? I mean, it's kind of like the

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saying that Republicans are just Democrats driving the speed

00:19:59
limit. Meaning we're all headed towards

00:20:04
hell in a handbasket, but Republicans just do it a little

00:20:07
slower that they kind of just put the brakes on while

00:20:11
Democrats thrust us towards a larger etheric authoritarian

00:20:16
government, more government control Roll higher taxes, all

00:20:19
of this stuff and Republicans are basically just like, well,

00:20:25
no, no, we're well, we'll get there and do it slowly so that

00:20:28
our voters, think we're really stopping anything, and I think

00:20:33
that frustrates a lot of people. Right.

00:20:35
I think that frustrates a lot of people because they feel like

00:20:39
they're not getting the represent representation that

00:20:42
they really want. And that Republicans really

00:20:44
aren't standing for anything more than Democrat light.

00:20:47
And that's really where, Republican party is now, and

00:20:49
that's probably why Trump. And the Maga movement inspired

00:20:52
so much passion is because you had this candidate who came out

00:20:56
and came out bold on a lot of things and it pissed off.

00:21:00
A lot of people who were never going to vote for a Donald Trump

00:21:02
ever in their lives, but it did get a lot of people on board to

00:21:08
say, hey, you know what, this guy's talking about, building a

00:21:11
wall, and he's talking about being tough on China when it

00:21:13
comes to trading stalking about bringing manufacturing jobs back

00:21:17
though. Those are things you actually

00:21:19
can campaign on that. People are attracted to because

00:21:23
their Solutions, because it's a different platform if Democrats

00:21:28
come out and say, well, we want to tax all of our Millionaires

00:21:32
and billionaires at 90% of the top marginal rate, it's more

00:21:35
likely than that, Republicans will come out and say no.

00:21:37
Actually my tax proposal is that they'll be taxed at 70%.

00:21:44
Right, hang on. Okay, that's there's a lot

00:21:46
better right? Instead of them saying, well we

00:21:48
should expand the Department of Education, like Democrats would

00:21:51
say what Republicans might come out and say is well I think

00:21:56
maybe we should just kind of Reform it around the edges as

00:21:59
opposed to abolish it. You know these are these are

00:22:02
things that like Libertarians are saying which is abolish.

00:22:04
These agencies, abolish the Federal Reserve, these are big

00:22:08
idea platforms that people look at and go.

00:22:11
Okay. That's And I can get behind, but

00:22:17
the idea is that you should just vote Republican because

00:22:20
strategically it will work out in the end.

00:22:24
How much has that worked out for us?

00:22:26
Electing, establishment, Republicans over and over and

00:22:29
over and over again, not very well, we can, we continue to

00:22:33
march to a bigger budget, bigger deficit, bigger debt, so, What

00:22:41
are we really doing? Here are the GOP really doing

00:22:45
anything to stop? What the Democrats are doing?

00:22:48
Not necessarily but this guy saying, well, just because

00:22:51
they're less damaging, we should vote for them.

00:22:55
Not really that. Great of an argument in 2016

00:22:58
election, the Libertarian presidential candidate.

00:23:00
Gary, Johnson attracted just over 4.5 million votes.

00:23:05
They always love to use this stat.

00:23:08
It Gary Johnson took over 4.5 million votes, 2016 was a very

00:23:14
polarizing election between two very polarizing, candidates,

00:23:18
Trump and Hillary Clinton. Those are two people that you

00:23:21
may have love Trump or thought he was great.

00:23:25
There's a good portion of people who didn't like Trump, and they

00:23:27
also didn't like Hillary Clinton and their law.

00:23:29
People who just didn't vote for anybody.

00:23:32
They just kind of sat it out and they said, well, I'm just not

00:23:36
gonna I'm not gonna vote, then there's some people who said,

00:23:39
well, I'm gonna vote for Gary Johnson, just because I want to

00:23:41
make a statement. I know a lot of people here in

00:23:43
California, who said, I'm going to vote for Gary Johnson, just

00:23:46
to make a statement because in the end, my votes, not really

00:23:49
going to matter in the presidential election.

00:23:51
But if I can run up the, the votes for the libertarian.

00:23:54
Why? The left is equivalent, Green

00:23:58
Party candidate Jill, Stein received only 1.5 million votes

00:24:01
despite being a deeply flawed candidate.

00:24:03
Gary Johnson, moved the national popular vote from a toss up to a

00:24:07
clear, Clinton Edge in the Electoral College.

00:24:09
Johnson's influence, was even greater.

00:24:11
Now, I'll argue that 4.5 million votes across the entire nation.

00:24:16
Doesn't necessarily sway. The popular vote as much.

00:24:20
Democrats are more likely to win the popular vote, which is why

00:24:24
we have to hold. On to the Electoral College

00:24:26
because cities vote for Democrats overwhelmingly.

00:24:29
So la San Francisco, New York Atlanta, all these big cities

00:24:34
Chicago, they're all voting for Democrats at large large

00:24:40
numbers. Of course, Democrats would love

00:24:42
if that was the way it goes, but that's not really the way it

00:24:44
goes. Because the founders were smart

00:24:46
enough to know that if we did that all the cities would

00:24:49
basically just control the entire country, and rural areas

00:24:51
will be completely forgotten. That's not the point of this

00:24:54
episode, though. So, this argument that just

00:24:58
because Gary Johnson ran, it gave Hillary Clinton the edge in

00:25:00
the popular vote, who cares? The popular vote doesn't really

00:25:02
matter. That's not exactly how you win.

00:25:05
A presidency is a popular vote and we all know Democrats are

00:25:08
going to get more votes. Anyway, when it comes down to

00:25:11
it, it's all about the Electoral College at a state level and

00:25:17
trying 16. Gary Johnson, very nearly handed

00:25:19
crucial states to Clayton in Pennsylvania, where Trump's

00:25:22
margin was one point-three percentage.

00:25:23
Point Johnson got two point, four percent of the In

00:25:27
Wisconsin, where Trump won by 0.6 percentage points.

00:25:30
Johnson got three point, seven percent MIT and 3.7 percent in

00:25:34
Michigan where Trump won by a razor thin point-3 percentage

00:25:37
points Johnson got three point, six percent. so here's the

00:25:44
fallacy, in this argument, the fallacy in this argument is

00:25:46
assuming that every single person that he is quoting.

00:25:51
So let's say John's it got two point four percent of the vote

00:25:54
in Pennsylvania. The fallacy there is assuming

00:25:58
that every single person, those are 2.4% that could have gone to

00:26:02
Donald Trump and it could have won by a larger margin.

00:26:05
Same thing in Wisconsin. If you'd gotten that But that's

00:26:09
not necessarily the case and there is a George Washington

00:26:14
University Battleground poll. This was released back in

00:26:18
September of 2016 that a plurality of Johnson supporters

00:26:22
would vote for Clinton if the libertarian nominee were to drop

00:26:25
out for some reason more than 34 percent of Johnson, and Jill,

00:26:30
Stein supporters, say they'd back, Hillary Clinton over

00:26:32
Trump. If they had to choose between

00:26:34
the two 26%, pick the Republican nominee, and 23% said neither.

00:26:38
So 34% said, the plurality, meaning the most out of the

00:26:43
entire, all the percentages would have supported Hillary

00:26:47
Clinton. If they didn't have Johnson or

00:26:49
Jill Stein as an alternative, 23 percent said they wouldn't even

00:26:54
vote, they would just say, I'm not even going to vote.

00:26:57
So this argument to me is always one of those.

00:26:59
Well, if Libertarians didn't run than we would have won by a lot

00:27:03
more. Maybe, maybe Trump would have

00:27:07
picked up a half. Of a percentage point, you know,

00:27:10
in states that he already won. And again, I'm not saying Gary

00:27:14
Johnson was great. Gary Johnson was a bozo of a

00:27:16
candidate. He was way, too far left lane

00:27:20
for my taste. I think he was, you know, his VP

00:27:23
was anti guns. That's probably why he would

00:27:26
have taken more from Hillary. Clinton supporters is because of

00:27:30
the fact that he was more of a left-leaning Libertarian.

00:27:33
But this argument that just because Johnson got a percentage

00:27:35
of the vote doesn't necessarily mean that.

00:27:38
That Trump would have gotten all those votes.

00:27:41
He may have gotten a smaller percentage of that.

00:27:43
Remember, it's only 23% of that entire plurality would have

00:27:47
actually voted for Donald Trump. So you're saying, 23% of 2.4%

00:27:54
would have voted for Donald Trump if it weren't for.

00:27:58
So it's not really that big of a difference.

00:28:01
You know, a lot of people will say that, and I'll point out to

00:28:03
and say, well, it was a couple percentage points, not

00:28:06
necessarily, it's more of it, it's more.

00:28:08
Like a quarter of a percentage point, would have switched over

00:28:11
to Trump if possible when it came to Gary Johnson.

00:28:16
Go on. They talk about Joe jorgeson,

00:28:20
not really interested in talking about Jo jorgeson because 2020

00:28:23
was just an a mess of everything Libertarians frequently, argued

00:28:29
that they also take votes away from Democrats, or they attract

00:28:31
votes from people who have never never not have otherwise

00:28:34
participate, which is true. Based on that pole and study

00:28:37
shows that they actually do take some from Democrats.

00:28:41
It's also possible to 2020 election was influenced more by

00:28:44
other factors. Mark Zuckerberg has 400 million

00:28:47
comes to mind as the mass censorship of hundred in name

00:28:51
only to and so perhaps we should lay off a Libertarians or maybe

00:28:54
not in, close races. It remains a Libertarian cans,

00:28:56
get Democrats elected, he talks about the senate race.

00:29:03
The battle for us and in 2022. According to cook political

00:29:06
includes eight races are currently listed as toss-ups of

00:29:09
those eight. There are six states with

00:29:11
libertarian cants also in the race.

00:29:13
There, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada.

00:29:16
Vania only one of those States. Pennsylvania has a green party.

00:29:18
Can also running the race in Arizona currently rated a

00:29:22
toss-up. I cook Bears.

00:29:23
A closer look the libertarian Camp.

00:29:25
Mark Victor raised over, 60 individual contributions.

00:29:28
These are through June 22nd and don't reflect contribution since

00:29:31
then it may be substantial doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.

00:29:36
So Mark, Victor is the libertarian candidate in this

00:29:40
race? Blake Masters who have any boy

00:29:42
was very nice to bring up in the chat that Dave Smith actually

00:29:44
came out and supported Blake Masters.

00:29:46
Tears over Mark, Victor Mark, Victor might not be a Misa style

00:29:52
libertarian and I can understand if he's not a Misa style like

00:29:55
he's a woke libertarian or a Lola batarian as they like to

00:29:59
call him. I could see what Dave Smith

00:30:01
would support Blake Masters over this Mark, Victor guy, so that

00:30:05
could be a big deal right there. So the fact that Libertarians

00:30:08
and Dave Smith has said this before on his podcast he would

00:30:12
rather support a really good. Then a just a Libertarian.

00:30:19
Yes. Ally, no.

00:30:19
A Libertarian in name only. He said, stuff like he would

00:30:24
rather support. Like if there's good Canyons

00:30:26
like Rand, Paul or Thomas Massie support those Republicans, you

00:30:30
know, don't waste time with other Libertarians, we're going

00:30:33
to spoil the vote and get them prevented from getting and

00:30:36
running. But we don't know if this is

00:30:40
really going to have that big of an impact on Arizona through

00:30:44
June, he is only attracted a 21 donations, every one of them

00:30:47
from California. So I guess because, you know,

00:30:50
everything that comes out of California, must be horrible,

00:30:53
right? I mean, we're all just horrible

00:30:55
and everyone of us is a, you know, Bleed, Blue.

00:30:59
Socialized, that's what it must mean.

00:31:00
If it comes out California, it must be awful.

00:31:04
Libertarian candidates have various motives, some are

00:31:06
running on principle, some to acquire celebrity status.

00:31:09
In some are just so disillusioned with Republican

00:31:11
party that they're running as spoilers.

00:31:16
I lost my place. Oh sorry.

00:31:19
I am principal someone to acquire slurry size and summer

00:31:21
just is illusion with Republican party that they're running a

00:31:23
spoilers to hasten its destruction.

00:31:26
Republican candidates could be doing more to help themselves

00:31:29
offering a compelling and coherent vision of America's

00:31:31
future. Instead of merely identifying

00:31:33
the spectacular failures of the Democrats would be a good start

00:31:38
but the disunity imperfections and failures of Republicans

00:31:41
doesn't justify their Collective destruction.

00:31:44
Know overall, the ideological bias of Republican candidates

00:31:48
and Orders leans in the same direction as Libertarians

00:31:51
depends. Not all Libertarians are exactly

00:31:54
the same. They're not all, you know

00:31:56
Gadsden flag. Don't tread on me waving people

00:31:59
there. A lot of them were also like

00:32:00
former Democrats, former woke leftist, who are now libertarian

00:32:04
the more powerful the libertarian party becomes the

00:32:06
more certain and it is they will turn America over to Democrats.

00:32:09
Rendering the majority Sentiments of Americans

00:32:12
politically irrelevant that's life in a two-party system.

00:32:16
All right, so I'm going to get to your guys's comments on this.

00:32:20
Let me know what you think. Do you think this author is

00:32:23
correct? You think they're absolutely

00:32:25
correct in the sense that we should just blindly support the

00:32:28
Republican Party, whether they're horrible.

00:32:30
They're off or they're just less damaging than Democrats.

00:32:33
Is that what we should be doing? Is that really the where we

00:32:36
should be headed in all of this is we should be just blindly

00:32:42
supporting them because otherwise you're letting the And

00:32:46
and running. Here's my thoughts.

00:32:50
Third party candidates, especially good, third, party

00:32:53
candidates, do make do have a good purpose, they do make the

00:33:01
arguments more prevalent than the other.

00:33:05
What otherwise would be there, are what we call issue,

00:33:10
candidates issue, candidates or that's what I like to call them.

00:33:14
Some people also call them that issue candidates are our kin.

00:33:18
It's who run specifically because they know they're not

00:33:22
going to win but if they can get up on that stage and tell a

00:33:27
national audience, their ideas and their issues you get voters

00:33:31
to pay attention to that. There's been a lot of issue

00:33:37
candidates throughout history. There's been a lot of issue

00:33:40
candidates in the past several years when it comes to

00:33:42
presidential elections And you probably don't remember any of

00:33:46
them because none of them ever made it.

00:33:48
To the end. They were just there for one

00:33:50
particular reason. And these issue candidates do

00:33:54
that one job and they do it really well, which is they bring

00:33:57
up these arguments and they bring up all this stuff so that

00:34:00
people can voters can look at this and go.

00:34:03
Wow, these are issues. I've never really even thought

00:34:06
about, but now I think about them.

00:34:13
So for example, if you had a Libertarian candidate, who's out

00:34:18
there, who's bringing up these issues and a republican

00:34:20
candidate, let's The libertarian party that libertarian candidate

00:34:24
right now is going out there saying, look, we oppose all of

00:34:30
the covid, lockdowns, we oppose all the covid, bailouts, we

00:34:35
oppose all of the extra spending in the wars overseas.

00:34:39
These are our platforms and the Republican comes out and says,

00:34:44
well, I'm not a Democrat and maybe I'll lower your taxes.

00:34:51
What is the purpose of those two candidates?

00:34:54
Well, one candidate actually has issues and ideas and stuff that

00:34:58
they actually want to implement. The Republican gets the benefit

00:35:01
of running just because it's a two party system that they

00:35:06
basically get to step back and go.

00:35:07
Well, it's a two-party system and I'm the Republican.

00:35:10
I'm the only person opposing this Democrat and Democrats are

00:35:13
awful. So just vote Republican, right?

00:35:16
And that's usually what happens with a lot of Voters, the

00:35:19
midterm elections were will you To see what's going to happen

00:35:25
midterm elections. Usually, right after a new

00:35:27
president, is elected usually the new president and the new

00:35:29
Administration faces a backlash of people who are not happy with

00:35:33
what has happened in the first two years of their presidency.

00:35:36
So it would Trump. We saw it and we're probably

00:35:38
going to see it with Biden as well.

00:35:40
You're going to see a backlash or people go.

00:35:41
Well I don't like that guy in office or therefore I'm gonna

00:35:44
vote for the other party but where does that get us?

00:35:46
Does that get us any closer to really making this country

00:35:50
better? Or we just hand in from one

00:35:53
party to another. Are we just going?

00:35:56
Well, let's go from the Socialist candidate to the

00:35:59
lighter socialist candidate and for Republicans to say that they

00:36:02
are the anti-socialist. Let's just take, you know, let's

00:36:07
just get in our time machines, again.

00:36:09
Do you all remember in 2020 when Trump was handing out money like

00:36:12
it was candy on Halloween? Remember Trump box, everyone's

00:36:17
getting 1200 dollars $800. They're getting these nice

00:36:19
little checks. Remember all the the PPP loans

00:36:23
and all that stuff Trump bragged about how much money he spent.

00:36:27
And look at this is the biggest Financial bill ever sighs.

00:36:31
So guys, the biggest is the biggest bill ever in the

00:36:34
history. And I signed it because I'm the

00:36:37
greatest and it's big and it's huge.

00:36:38
Okay, that's what he bragged about is that he signed the

00:36:42
biggest Financial deal. Does that sound like a good?

00:36:45
Republican to. You does that sound like that's

00:36:47
less damaging we're now dealing with inflation because there's

00:36:51
so much money pumped into our system.

00:36:53
Does that sound like that makes sense as a fiscal conservative

00:36:56
or as somebody who believes in limited government?

00:36:59
And who doesn't believe in Socialism or handouts?

00:37:02
No, it sounds like very much like socialism.

00:37:04
It sounds like the state got involved, and the state paid

00:37:08
people to stay home and it paid businesses to stayed close and

00:37:13
it gave out trillions of dollars.

00:37:14
Dollars and billions to corporate welfare.

00:37:18
So does that sound like the sort of anti-socialist vote that this

00:37:27
guy is talking about? Doesn't sound like it to me.

00:37:30
It sounds like they're just lighter socialism, right?

00:37:35
And the Trump Administration, never put their foot down.

00:37:37
And said, I don't support all the lockdowns, we should never

00:37:41
have locked down. He started it, you know, he The

00:37:45
15 days to flatten the curve at all.

00:37:46
Came down from the top after that.

00:37:48
It's sort of just kind of went on its own, just kind of got

00:37:50
wild, but my point being is for you to just say, well, Where the

00:37:58
Republicans and we're not Democrats.

00:38:02
Don't pay attention to these other guys who are bringing up

00:38:04
other guys and gals. We're bringing out these really

00:38:06
good points about Liberty, freedom, and all this stuff that

00:38:11
we should be really taking a good look at it.

00:38:15
Don't look at it that way. Look at it as we just want to

00:38:17
put the brakes on. We want to pump the brakes a

00:38:19
little bit on this card which is driving off of a freaking Cliff.

00:38:24
We're going to pump the brakes. We're not going to head off the

00:38:27
cliff. You know, in the next five

00:38:29
minutes maybe we'll head off the cliff in the next 10 minutes

00:38:32
because we're doing the speed limit.

00:38:33
But at least we're not heading off the cliff as fast as

00:38:35
possible. Now likewise the libertarian

00:38:39
candidates have had an effect on Donald Trump in 2016 when you

00:38:43
ran where he said, Let's talk about abolishing or auditing the

00:38:47
FED. That was something that Donald

00:38:49
Trump said he said. Let's talk about auditing the

00:38:51
FED. He never said, let's abolish it,

00:38:53
but he did talk about auditing the Fed.

00:38:55
So this sort of issue, candidate of a third candidate.

00:38:57
A third party, bringing up these issues forces.

00:39:01
Republicans, if you want those votes, don't just cry about.

00:39:06
Well, they took two point four percent and even though not all

00:39:10
2.4% would have actually gone to you, they took this percentage.

00:39:15
And we lost this state and we lost that state.

00:39:20
So it's all the Libertarians fault.

00:39:23
I would say it's a Libertarians doing a good job.

00:39:26
Getting people to actually vote for him because they brought up

00:39:29
stuff that people are going to vote for, and that people are

00:39:31
going to support if you want to win that vote and you are more

00:39:34
likely to win. You should go out and win those

00:39:38
voters. You should say, I'm going to

00:39:40
reach out to that tiny little two or three percent.

00:39:45
Block of Voters because in a tight race, two or three percent

00:39:48
can make all the difference in the world between being a

00:39:51
squeaker and winning handedly. Maybe I should reach out to

00:39:56
them. Maybe I should bring up those

00:39:57
issues. Maybe I should talk about those

00:39:59
issues. I should be better on these

00:40:01
issues and if third-party candidates in third parties,

00:40:04
Force Republicans or the big parties to do better.

00:40:09
I think that's a win me personally, that's me

00:40:14
personally. You know, and someone just

00:40:16
brought up Tulsi gabbard I had actually had it.

00:40:18
Brought up Tulsi gabbard right now and this is, you know, it's

00:40:23
kind of funny coming on the heels of Tulsi gabbard saying

00:40:26
that she's no longer going to be a Democrat because of all these

00:40:28
things, Shows you that blind loyalty is not the best way to

00:40:33
go about it. It's not the best way to go.

00:40:35
Well, I have these two choices I got fit myself in one of these

00:40:38
boxes. Like, let's say we had a whole

00:40:41
bunch of parties, right? And you had the Democratic

00:40:46
party, the Republican party at the libertarian party.

00:40:49
Let's say you had the Socialist Workers of America party and

00:40:53
they're all relevant. Would you think that Bernie

00:40:56
Sanders someone like a Bernie Sanders or AOC would be a

00:40:59
Democrat? Now, they would most likely be

00:41:01
part of the Socialist. Instead, they're part of the

00:41:03
democratic party because they know that that's the power and

00:41:06
that if that's just blind loyalty and that's all they

00:41:08
looking for and they want to get into Power.

00:41:11
You got to be part of the democratic party, but props to

00:41:13
Tulsi gabbard, for saying I'm not going to do it anymore, I'm

00:41:16
not just going to blindly follow the Democratic party just

00:41:19
because I'm not a republican. Now, all of a sudden, everyone's

00:41:22
going hello, Tulsa. You should come over here and be

00:41:24
a republican. We're so much better.

00:41:27
Our use that much better and to kind of bring bring it back to

00:41:30
like California and kind of finish on this before we get

00:41:34
back into the comments and questions in the chat.

00:41:37
That's sort of what's going on here in California.

00:41:41
I saw someone bring up that there are good moderate

00:41:43
Democrats in California. Now, I know, you know, don't all

00:41:45
of a sudden log off and be like, holy crap, I hate this.

00:41:51
There are good moderate Democrats.

00:41:53
There are Democrats who I'd much rather have a moderate Democrat

00:41:56
than a far left is Democrat. And that is a little bit of

00:41:59
strategy, but here in California, the California GOP.

00:42:03
And I've said this a number of times is this philosophy.

00:42:09
Which is where not Democrats. And that's it.

00:42:15
Their whole thing is. Let's point out how absurd

00:42:17
California has gotten, which is fine.

00:42:19
We can all point out, how absurd California has gotten.

00:42:22
But the difference is that, if you're the major State party,

00:42:26
the only major opposition party in the state, you should be

00:42:30
doing a little bit more than just going.

00:42:32
Well, we're not Democrats. So you should vote for us,

00:42:35
that's not a way to win an election.

00:42:37
That's not a way to really rally support around you.

00:42:40
And that's not how you're going to build your RT up.

00:42:43
And I don't think this whole well just vote for it because

00:42:47
it's the better of the two, whether it's the the crap burger

00:42:50
or the turd sandwich or whatever which one is better.

00:42:55
So with that, I think there's there's a lot of room for

00:42:59
improvement and if let's say a Libertarian party in California,

00:43:03
pushes the California GOP to be better.

00:43:05
I'll be all for it. If it pushes Libertarians to

00:43:09
support better. Republican candidates.

00:43:12
I'm all for it. But you shouldn't just tell

00:43:15
people to shut up and take it in blindly take it because that's

00:43:19
on American to me. That's not American that you

00:43:21
have to pledge loyalty or fuel T to one of the two parties.

00:43:25
That's not American to me and for this author to be published

00:43:29
on American greatness and to say that say these things is deeply

00:43:35
unamerican and not what makes America great.

00:43:38
We should be able to choose who we want to support how we want

00:43:41
to organize and not be. Read about political parties and

00:43:45
just playing the game. So otherwise we're just going

00:43:49
back and forth and we're going from socialist and like,

00:43:52
socialist light. So, all right, let me know your

00:43:55
thoughts and comments got about 15 minutes left.

00:44:02
I wish the Republicans got behind the state of Jefferson

00:44:06
culturally California. Sees anything to the right of

00:44:08
Arnold's fascist regardless, both parties have their dinos

00:44:13
and rhinos. Yeah.

00:44:18
Did detective most times in California, V with blind,

00:44:21
loyalty, and small percentage to actually do the research.

00:44:23
It would be a wasted vote because the left comes out in

00:44:25
droves, so that they win, right? Because there are they have

00:44:31
bigger numbers in California. And that's something I've always

00:44:34
said, is that when you have a two-to-one Advantage, it's not

00:44:36
hard to win elections. When you have a two-to-one

00:44:38
Advantage, it's just how it is. And I don't think, you know,

00:44:44
credit to the Democrats for getting to that point, maybe

00:44:46
they were always at 50%, who knows.

00:44:48
Maybe they've always been at 50% and Republicans went from 50%

00:44:51
down to 25%. You know, it's more of a

00:44:55
statement that the Republicans aren't able to hold onto

00:44:57
registered voters as much as they should be, which tells you

00:45:00
one thing. The Republican Party should get

00:45:04
better in California. It absolutely has to get better

00:45:07
in California. There has to be reformed.

00:45:09
There has to be a platform that people can get behind and that's

00:45:12
That's no ifs, ands or buts. But Blind loyalty is good.

00:45:16
Neither on the left or on the right after America.

00:45:19
For me is largely minorities and mostly Hispanics.

00:45:22
That make the state as well. As African rambla Asians.

00:45:27
I have to admit the Dems, do a solid job to get to minority

00:45:30
votes. They do.

00:45:30
Yeah, they absolutely do. What are your thoughts on the

00:45:34
house? Introducing a bill that would

00:45:36
restore the gold standard? I haven't seen it.

00:45:40
I don't know if we can go back to the gold standard.

00:45:42
And to be honest, there's so much money in circulation.

00:45:45
We would have to have a ton of gold to back every single dollar

00:45:49
and I don't know how that transition will go.

00:45:52
I don't know if we'd be able to pay off our debts.

00:45:54
So, I think maybe the horses out of the barn on that one.

00:45:58
So, That's really, I mean it's a shame.

00:46:04
We kind of went off of the gold standard a while back and 50

00:46:09
years ago with 50 years ago with Nixon.

00:46:14
Because now we have fiat currency and that's just

00:46:17
absolutely awful the way it's been.

00:46:19
But I don't think we can go back.

00:46:21
When it comes to the gold standard.

00:46:22
I wish we could. I think you have to abolish the

00:46:25
Federal Reserve to start off. I think that should be, but

00:46:29
that's a hold of separate. We can do a whole separate show

00:46:32
about abolishing the fed, and why that would be better.

00:46:36
I'd love to have someone who's a big economic person who can

00:46:39
explain this much better than I can.

00:46:42
Let's see. Other comments, lay them on me,

00:46:45
comments, questions. Do do, do, do do.

00:46:52
Same bird, two wings. That's why I couldn't in good

00:46:55
conscience. Choose to be a dam or a

00:46:56
republican. Yeah, that's a lot of people's

00:47:00
frustration. People are frustrated.

00:47:08
Regardless, no matter what Trump will run, again, money to him is

00:47:10
not a problem when he has to run again and he has a lot of

00:47:12
support from his own party and I think it'll be interesting to

00:47:19
see whether he runs or not. I'm not sure if he really wants

00:47:26
to, I don't know. I think DeSantis is the Clear

00:47:29
Choice, but you know, if Trump runs again, I think it'll just

00:47:34
give few. Like, the left is probably

00:47:36
hoping Trump runs again. They probably want Trump to run

00:47:39
again, because it will increase their ratings.

00:47:42
I'll make more money off of it and they have something too.

00:47:47
Something to really, really it'd be great to see the more debates

00:47:49
with libertarian so that they can bring up the good topic.

00:47:51
So people can see how the DNR KS respond, to some real issues.

00:47:55
I agree and there is a lot of issues with when it comes to

00:48:00
ballot access and stuff like that.

00:48:01
Third parties don't really allowed that they don't really

00:48:05
get a good placement and they're not really allowed in debates,

00:48:08
which I think is kind of a shame.

00:48:09
I think there should be all of them.

00:48:15
I think there should be debates between Democrats, Republicans,

00:48:20
Libertarians, green party. I think there should be all

00:48:22
these ideas because, you know, I think that people need to hear

00:48:29
these ideas. They need to hear ideas outside

00:48:31
of the to politically approved, the to politically approved

00:48:38
parties. And when you have two parties

00:48:41
that the media and everybody can control its Easier to funnel the

00:48:46
same ideas over and over again to give people.

00:48:48
This is the illusion of the only choice that you have are these

00:48:51
two parties. So if they bring in a whole

00:48:56
bunch of other people or at least couple other people, then

00:49:00
there's a whole bunch of people if they bring on a couple more

00:49:03
people to bring up ideas, then you can't really control what

00:49:07
they're going to say. And then you might have one of

00:49:10
these, you know, crazy libertarian saying, let's

00:49:12
abolish all the, you know, Department of Education, the

00:49:15
face. Chad and data, and let's do all

00:49:17
way with all this, bring everyone home from war and get

00:49:20
rid of all of our foreign bases and all that stuff, you know,

00:49:26
that's, that's why I don't think they really want that many

00:49:29
people. That's why they don't want

00:49:30
Libertarians or anything like that.

00:49:32
I mean, look, what happened. With Ross Perot, Ross Perot was

00:49:34
allowed to be on the stage, and he brought up all these

00:49:36
different issues and he won a good percentage of the vote one,

00:49:39
double digits as a third-party candidate.

00:49:41
Probably cause George w--. Bush.

00:49:42
The election. That's a case where he probably

00:49:45
did. Cost George w-- Bush the

00:49:46
election. So yeah.

00:49:51
I joined a well-known group of Republicans.

00:49:52
They wouldn't go into areas that need it.

00:49:54
The most, they would only hold events and Echo chamber.

00:49:57
So I left. This is who Republicans are?

00:50:01
I love you had to search my car for gas money.

00:50:03
Yeah, it's getting bad out. There is really bad.

00:50:06
Like I said, it's going to affect people's driving and

00:50:08
their driving habits and all that, but yeah, Republicans are

00:50:12
not very good. Especially, in California,

00:50:14
you're behind the eight ball. You're not going to win over

00:50:17
voters by going to the same old places.

00:50:21
Over and over, and over again. And Cobra kado brought this up

00:50:24
on a previous podcast episode where he was on with us.

00:50:28
And he talked about how he had gone into neighborhoods where

00:50:32
they were never Republicans ever showed up and that he talked to

00:50:35
him and he was like, Hey, and by the way, I'm running as a

00:50:37
Republican, and people were like, you know, we've never had

00:50:40
a republican come into this neighborhood and they agreed

00:50:43
with him on a lot of things. And it just so happened.

00:50:46
All he had to do was talk to people And get that out there

00:50:50
and it's tough because you have to get people who want to walk

00:50:53
and talk about this stuff and you know, they don't want it's

00:50:56
hard I'm not going to lie. Walking is tough.

00:51:01
But Republicans really do have to get better at going out into

00:51:04
these neighborhoods in areas that are not typically,

00:51:07
typically Republican, you know and they got it they got to

00:51:11
start finding votes otherwise you're just going to continue to

00:51:15
become more of a marginalized party that doesn't really have

00:51:17
any power. The state of California so

00:51:20
you're going to have to go out and do these things.

00:51:22
You're gonna have to go out and areas and talk to people and say

00:51:25
this is our platform. Is this what you support?

00:51:28
Bubba can we get you to maybe? Can we count on your vote?

00:51:33
So and you can't keep going the same old places.

00:51:41
If the cowering GOP loses Orange County?

00:51:45
Well, I mean they sort of already lost it.

00:51:47
I mean it has Democratic Congress.

00:51:49
Well you know, you still have Michelle young and Sean and

00:51:53
what's her name? Is it right?

00:51:56
Michelle young and young Kim Michelle.

00:52:00
Michelle steel and Yong Kim. Sorry, but overall OC is

00:52:05
trending in the wrong direction so there's a lot of problems

00:52:10
going on there. I mean, it's happening here in

00:52:14
San Diego. San Diego was had a lot of red

00:52:17
representation, it's gotten more, and more blue and now we

00:52:20
have Todd Gloria, running the helm and, you know, homelessness

00:52:25
is worse than ever. So here we are.

00:52:29
There's still hope for San Diego, though.

00:52:30
I think there's a good amount of representation out here.

00:52:32
I don't think it's completely deep blue, it's not as deep

00:52:35
blue. As most people think it is I

00:52:39
would say San Diego's more purple.

00:52:45
All right, got a couple minutes left anymore.

00:52:47
Chats, any more questions? I'll be out of town next week,

00:52:53
so it won't be a podcast or coffee and California politics,

00:52:57
but I'll be back the following week and then we got the big

00:52:59
event on the 29th, which is going to be epic.

00:53:02
I can't guarantee I will do a trump impersonation at the 29th

00:53:07
for everybody there but it should be fun.

00:53:10
It's gonna be a lot of great candidates.

00:53:11
It's going to be a really fun event.

00:53:13
To host and just to see a lot of people, I think it's important

00:53:17
to see the people who are, you know, all together.

00:53:21
And I think that's one of the reasons why I created this

00:53:23
podcast. I created this platform was that

00:53:25
people can feel like, hey, I'm not alone in California.

00:53:28
There's other people out there who think like I do, and I think

00:53:31
coming out and seeing seeing all the numbers and all that will be

00:53:36
really good for people, get them really energized because there's

00:53:39
some, there's some great candidates and there is Some

00:53:43
games have a great shot. Like Lonnie Chen has a shot to

00:53:47
win a Statewide office, which would be a first for a

00:53:50
Republican and a long time. So and Brian dog will be there.

00:53:54
He was on the show last week. If you haven't checked out that

00:53:56
interview, definitely go check it out.

00:53:58
It's up on YouTube, or you can check it out on audio, any audio

00:54:01
podcast, anything like that. So, all right with that said,

00:54:05
I'm going to log off for the day.

00:54:07
Tomorrow night, we're going to do a prop break down to

00:54:09
proposition. As we're going to prop 1A, we're

00:54:11
going to prop 30. We're going to talk about those

00:54:12
two. Because elections coming up,

00:54:16
it's only, you know, separate less than a month away.

00:54:18
We're almost we're in the final stretch, is the home stretch

00:54:21
here and then we have the, what else is coming up?

00:54:26
Oh, we have Sunday night, the 23rd, which is going to be the

00:54:29
debate, I think. And we're going to live stream

00:54:31
the debate so that should be really exciting.

00:54:35
So with that said, thanks everyone and I'll see you on the

00:54:39
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