On this episode I am joined by Anthony Cabassa and Karina Manuela to discuss the New York Times article calling Mayra Flores a "far right latina" and how the Hispanic vote is shifting in America and why.
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What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of the California underground.
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I'm very excited about this episode because I had originally
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want schedule this episode based on New York Times article.
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Thankfully, Jill Biden has not learned how to use Spanish, no
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one told her you can download the Duolingo app and work on
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your Spanish so that helps out this episode.
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But this is an episode, I think I've really wanted to do for a
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while, which is talking about sort of the shift, in Hispanic
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voters in this country from Democrat to Republican.
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And how they're starting to be more of a conservative swing in
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the Hispanic community. So, I'm really happy today to
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have Anthony cabassa from L American and credible
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journalists. You should always follow
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whatever he's doing. He's really, he's one of those
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true journalist who's actually out there doing the hard work.
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You rarely see that anymore? He's not a Brian stelter,
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sitting behind a desk, just in air conditioning.
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He's really doing the real journalistic work, Karina May
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well, who is here as well, she's a great follow on social media.
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Her posts are always informative.
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I always enjoy them and they're always there's funny ones too,
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so I enjoy that as well. And as always, my trusty
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co-host, Cynthia is here as well.
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How is everyone doing tonight? Really good?
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Thanks doing great looking forward to it.
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Awesome. So Let's just jump right into
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the first topic, which is this article.
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Let me pull this up real quick. Getting used to this new
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technology, so everyone bear with me.
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It is from The New York Times and it's called the rise of the
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far right. Latina should be popping up any
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minute. Give it a second.
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Oh no, hold on. This is the problem with new
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technology, as you got to get used to this stuff.
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But anyway the the gist of the article is that this new
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congresswoman Myra Flores recently was just elected, okay?
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So I guess it's not cooperating tonight.
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It doesn't want to cooperate right now.
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And the gist of the article was talking about how she is a
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far-right Latina. And mostly, the first thing that
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pops out at me, is they talked about her campaign slogan, which
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is God, family and Country. And he said, it was meant to
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appeal to what she calls the traditional values of her
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majority Hispanic District in the Border City of Brownsville,
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I guess now, just believing in. God faith, Family and Country
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those things make you far, right?
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According to the New York Times, what are your thoughts on that
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right off the bat? Well, I before, I actually saw
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the article, I saw a post from Cassandra Garcia.
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She's also mentioned in that article and it said, okay, so
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now you're considered far right. If you go to church, you
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advocate for school choice and you're pro-life.
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So I already knew that it was going to be ridiculous but It
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was just interesting to see like how much they've had to shift
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their definitions to try to redefine what far right is
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because that's the term that kind of has been freaking
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everybody out. But now it's like, well, that's
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far right then. I guess that's what I am.
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So if they're going to change the definition, I mean why not
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embrace it? Because that is what we are.
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We are pro-life. We do stand for family values
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and we do work hard. So I was kind of like as you
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guys have seen its turn into a big joke like the far-right
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Latina. Summer and like really, what
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else do we do with it at this point, besides them, you know,
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make a joke out of it and just embrace it.
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Well, I think Karina you, you have to admit that one of the
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things that the Hispanics do is that whenever people give us
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like a bad nickname, you know, we Embrace that nickname, you
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know they try to give us like a nickname that they think is
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going to hurt us. So then that's like our nickname
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for life, right? So like if we're like a little
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chubby growing up, they call you Gordo.
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So then that's that's your nickname now Gordo you know so
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it's like hey man if the corporate media wants to label
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us as far right. Conspiracy theorists if they
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want to call us cry, still fascists.
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If they Want to call us. You know, far-right Latinos.
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And you know what we're going to do with Hispanics are notorious
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for doing and we're going to embrace the slander.
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We're going to wear it on their sleeve and we're going to wear
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proudly, you know, because at the end of the day it's like
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Karina said, you know, I went to Myra floors.
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I actually interviewed her about a year ago and I interviewed
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some people in their District. I talked to her because she was
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running at the time and I was asking her what are you running
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on? And she was basically telling me
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you know this this article that you have pulled up.
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You know, she the article talks about how she quote unquote,
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shunned the moderates. But the reality is, is that
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what's happening at the borders and Invasion.
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It can be said anything less than that when you have that
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many people from so many different parts of the world,
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it, you can call it anything less than that.
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And that's why I get Governor Abbott needs to declare it.
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You know, I'm not sure what's taking them so long, but I know
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they just taken measures that would help with what's happening
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at the border. It's and it's not just You know
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human trafficking aspect. It's not just the children that
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are being trafficked but it's also the amount of drugs that
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are, you know, pouring over especially with the fentanyl you
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now. Now if you know, I read a recent
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story where a lady, pick up a dollar bill thinking like, oh I
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just found some money and then it was laced with fentanyl and
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she ended up in the hospital now.
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Now, you know, and it's crazy with inflation.
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Imagine trying to you know, you're walking down the street
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and you find money like man, what a lucky day and then boom,
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it's fentanyl laced, you know? Like now now you kind of Even
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thwart inflation with found money on the street.
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Because now you got to worry about if it's, whether it's
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laced with fentanyl or not, but she ran on the issues that
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surround the issues that people cared about in her district and
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people, you know, they can call her extremist, it can call her a
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trumpet, I can call her Marjorie, Taylor green want to
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be, shutting the moderates, but when you have an invasion at
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your hands, when you have Rising crime, when you have a dire
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problem that your community is directly facing there, No time
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for, you know, lukewarm Solutions or moderate Solutions,
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you have an extreme right now happening at the at the border.
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So you have to meet it with an extreme and in my opinion it's
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not extreme to ask for border security, you know, to me that's
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just common sense. But of course, leave it to the
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corporate media to call it extreme to care about your
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constituents run and what can your continues are asking for
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and then win on those Messages. So leave it to them.
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So, to clarify, because, you know, all four of us were in
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politics. So we know like the lingo and
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like, a little bit about branding and messaging.
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But for those listeners that don't know what, how do you
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define moderate? Because I think there is also
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that bigger issue as far as branding and messaging that the
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Republicans could improve upon. So when you say like hey like
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there's nothing to be moderate, ask reasonable Solutions like
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what's your definition of a moderate and Like what would be
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like the rock bright Solutions. Well, unfortunately, I feel like
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in today's political atmosphere, there's really no such thing as
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neutral or moderate anymore. It almost feels like you're
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being pulled in between two different extremes and, and, and
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I don't really even know what moderate would even look like
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today because I just feel like everything everything proposed
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is just so extreme, there's no real like, modern solution, but
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it, and I'm just talking about what I've heard as far as
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proposals are solutions. But, you know, The things that I
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thought was kind of moderate was, maybe something like the
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previous administration had offered where like a promise US
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border security and then we'll do amnesty, you know, for, for
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the, the DACA recipients and some other family members.
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It's not that it's moderate. I still think it's a little bit
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extreme and just, you know, continuing the cycle of granting
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amnesty, which is definitely not a solution at all.
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It's not even what I'm calling for, but at least it was kind of
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like it, showed that That one party was willing to negotiate
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with the other. And so, I think that that's what
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we need, more of, we need, we need to be able to present a
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solution down the middle that both parties can kind of agree.
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Maybe the extremists parts of both sides, you know, wouldn't
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completely agree with it. You know.
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Maybe one party is calling for the complete shutdown of the
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border and then, the other party is come calling for the complete
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opening of the Border, you know, where it's just like, just let
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them flow through, you know, it doesn't matter.
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Why should they have to present any kind of documentation of
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Really are, and I've met those people.
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And I've interviewed those people and I think that's
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definitely extreme, but definitely something moderate is
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just kind of creating an immediate solution, but also a
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long-term solution. You know, I've heard some
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Republicans here in California talking about maybe, you know,
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again, taking that Donald Trump model of granting amnesty or, or
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allowing the people that are already here path to
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citizenship, whatever that looks like, you know, regarding policy
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wise. But then also making sure R
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doing background checks, and you're finding out who these
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people are. And if they're criminals
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obviously, Deport the immediately.
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And but the same time, creating a long-term solution, where, you
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know, I've heard I've heard some Republicans say, like look we're
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willing to work with amnesty, but if we close the border for 5
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years, or if we could, or if we put a portrait or IAM to, and
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so, maybe with that would allow is five years of, hey, we
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stopped the the flow of immigrants so that we can catch
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up in the immigration courts. And we are able to Grant amnesty
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and get the paperwork for the people that have been here, you
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know, since they were kids or whatever might be and to me,
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something like that, looks a little bit more moderate where
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again, it doesn't have to be that specific policy that I just
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brought up that I heard a republican speak on that
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Republican ended up losing by the way.
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So I guess his immigration plan was not all that great but
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moderate to me just means that both parties are willing to meet
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in the middle. But again, I just don't know if
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we're ever going to see anything like that in today's.
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Day and age. Well, there's always been
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Solutions and I think that we've gotten away from them, like,
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here in California, Yvonne's cousin was explaining to me, how
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they're used to be a program where, if you want to come and
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work in agriculture on the farms, you could come, they give
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you a work permit for the season for the season to harvest that
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you were legally allowed to be here.
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You would, then after the season was over, you go back to your
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home country. Then the next season you could
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come back. And if you did that for five
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years in a row, you would eventually get a green card for
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almost like good service. So I think there are solutions
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that are out there that allow immigrants who want to come and
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be a part of the economy or work.
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There are options like that. And I think like those are good
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compromises that can help solve these Solutions.
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It doesn't have to be sort of All or Nothing of either you're
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completely undocumented or You we have to give you a amnesty
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and you're a full US citizen. I think there could be a middle
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ground as to working a lot of these Solutions out.
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But it's become such a political football recently to fight for
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one side or the other and say, oh we just want to give you
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citizenship and then is the other side is demonized saying
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you're racist because you want to keep out all immigrants.
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So it's really become a, it's hard to find that middle ground.
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It's hard to find any moderates who want to sit down and go.
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Okay. Is there any normal?
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But you sort of process or moderate process, we can go
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through. That's a good compromise.
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Well, Karina maybe you can kind of piggyback off what I'm about
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to say, but I think that you know in being in the border and
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interviewing a lot of the migrants that way legally coming
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to the u.s. I asked them.
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What's your plan here? What do you plan to do?
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Once you arrive, let's say, you come in, you get processed and
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then you're allowed to go. Wherever your family is, whether
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it's Florida, Ohio, wherever it is.
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And they most of them said, we just want to work, you know,
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where we're coming from a place where the cartel took over or,
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you know, Our business was ransacked by the cartel or was
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taken over by, you know, militia or whatever you know, whatever
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it might be because there's a lot of Civil Wars going on
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across Latin America and so a lot of them said I just want to
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work and then I just want to go back home.
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Like I'm hoping that between the time that I'm here working you
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know I can save up enough money and then I can go back home and
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I think that at the root of like Mass immigration and all the
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stuff, I think that one thing that both administration's I've
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gotten, right the last one and this one is we need Need to
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start solving the problems that are driving people out of their
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countries because to me, you know, growing up I used to visit
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Mexico, a lot. That is where my mother is from,
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and I love Mexico II, really did?
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I love the food, I love the culture.
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It was it was great for us, you know?
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And it was always like my mother's plan to eventually
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retire there, but because of how things have gotten even worse
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and she laughed, especially with the drug flow and all Stuff.
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She's like I have no intention of going back but I but I think
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if we can start chipping away at stopping the interventionism,
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you know abroad you had you know for example John Bolton who just
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for whatever reason decided to admit that he's planned coups in
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foreign countries. I mean like dude stop you know
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like first you said the quiet part out loud but I do believe
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that, you know, there's been a lot of Of government
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intervention, not just by America, but by a lot of First
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World countries in so many different countries that they go
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into these roughness countries and so it's like if we can stop
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with the interventionism and that's why, you know, America
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First always appealed to me because it was not globalist but
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nationalists and it was stopped the interventions with foreign
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countries and foreign governments so that people can
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live in peace and they can start being able to grow as a society
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and Thrive as a culture, but I don't know.
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Maybe Karina, I don't know if you agree with that, you know,
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but I think that if we can start solving the problems with with
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stopping the foreign intervention, and being able to
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help countries Thrive within themselves, you know, like it
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instead of investing money to bring people over.
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It's like invent, you know, helping, however, we can, you
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know, to invest in foreign countries and Partnerships and
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alliances and and trading, whatever, we can to help them
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grow. So that If people stopped
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fleeing their country, one of the things that I fell from the
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Trump Administration, like one of their proposals for
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immigration, was to have certain, like, trades that they
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wanted to get those jobs filled for.
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So I think that's a really good way of like incentivizing
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people. Like, you know, we have these
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jobs in this current field, like, if you guys are willing to
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come over and work those jobs, so that way, it's benefiting
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them for them, to be able to come over legally.
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And then also, it's benefiting us because we're In those jobs.
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So right now, like, you see their shortages of like I think
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one of the major ones it's causing a lot of people problems
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is Pilots. So can we create some kind of
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program or they can come over for school for that or if they
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already have experience in that? And we can get that in that
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field and filled those job positions and then put them on
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the plan for citizenship. Because I know that's the way
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that most people traditionally did it back in like the 80s and
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the 90s was to come over on work visas and then they would work
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here for a certain amount of time.
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And then eventually bring over the family, so I think that's a
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great way. Where it benefits both sides,
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because coming over a legally. It's so dangerous and that's
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something that the left doesn't really want to talk about, you
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know, they don't want to talk about the trafficking that
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happens, the exploitation, what happens to children, all those
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migrants that died and that, and that truck that they found, you
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know, so we have to find ways for them to come over legally.
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Not only for them to have opportunities to become citizens
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while so to keep them safe. So if there's a way where we
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create a program where we're both benefiting like you know
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they're coming over here to work we do they're going to be on a
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certain program and then we're also getting not.
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I don't want to say like labor out of it, but also, yes, you
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know, like we need certain job fields more than others.
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So is there a way to work that system?
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I think that would be a good idea.
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So I think bringing it back to with Myra Flores and whether or
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not this is a indicative of a larger change in the Hispanic
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voting Bloc or is this a blip in New York Times likes to think it
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is a blip. I would like to think it is sort
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of a change in the Hispanic voting Bloc.
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I'll post this question to both Anthony and Karina.
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My, my wife, when I first met her full disclosure, she was a
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And I thought that was going to be a deal breaker.
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When we first started dating, and I told her I voted for Trump
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was really worried about it, really nervous.
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She was very accepting, and she was very open.
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She said, that's fine. I don't like all of his stuff,
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but I do, you know, he I like the business stuff as we
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progress Through The Years, dating she started to listen to
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the stuff that I was listening to.
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She started to watch the show. So I was watching louder with
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Crowder stuff like that, and she started to find herself agreeing
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with A lot of the stuff that they were saying she was like,
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wait, I start. I'm agreeing with all
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Republicans, and then eventually she's now with no longer a
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registered Democrat. Voted for Trump, voted read the
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whole ticket, but it wasn't like she had this big Epiphany.
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It was just she was those things all along.
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So a question for Anthony and Carina is where you always
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conservative or were you in that mindset of well, I'm Hispanic.
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And then, Thus, we always vote Democrat.
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That's just what everybody does. And then discovered being
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Republican or conservative. How did your political Journey?
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Go to where you are today. God, Karina was funny because
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Anthony has captured to do a lot with my conservative Journey,
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but then we active, as far as like activism because in high
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school I was really into like punk rock music.
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So it was very anti-government more like a Libertarian kind of
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Anarchy Vibes but again I was like 15 so really know what's
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going on there but as far as like the culture that's what
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really influenced, me was just, you know, the less government
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the better. Fast forward to 1819.
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Obama comes into the picture and I was very much like, you know,
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and transpire the whole hope thing and still very into, like
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arts. And that seems.
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So then, when the bank's key got involved and those posters came
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up, I think it was spanked. No, it was the guy from What's
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his name that did those hope posters?
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He's introduced from obey. So that company they made these
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graffiti posters of Obama that had hope under it and I was
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like, okay, that's my guy like, he's appealing to the young
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people. He's bringing hope whatever that
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means. And I just got really involved
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with like the cultural aspect of it.
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They were bringing along musicians and celebrities, and
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that kind of, just really appealed to me.
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And then Hillary Clinton came along at this point.
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I'm in college. I'm very much like pro-feminist.
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Boss, babe, that kind of whole thing and then the, I'm with her
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campaign started. So I was like, yeah, I do.
00:20:06
I know nothing about this woman but I'm a woman, she's a woman,
00:20:09
I'm with her, I'm going to support her then.
00:20:13
Trump came along, then that was the first time I really ever
00:20:17
heard the rhetoric of Republicans are racist.
00:20:20
I didn't hear that prior to Trump coming along and once he
00:20:24
came in, they were they really just like pounded into us.
00:20:28
The kids in cages that he said all Mexicans are rapists and
00:20:32
murderers. I only listen to sound bites.
00:20:36
I was like, yeah, this guy is racist and apparently all
00:20:39
Republicans are racist because that's what they're saying.
00:20:43
I even had a rally, a fundraiser for a far-left, organization and
00:20:48
an anti Trump rally that I hosted and we raise money for.
00:20:52
I had a couple speakers there and they the speaker is really
00:20:56
influenced me a lot to their world.
00:20:58
Yeah, they don't see us as human.
00:21:00
They see us as less than it's a party of old white men.
00:21:05
They're never going to accept you, then come to any 20 and the
00:21:11
shutdown happens at this point. I'm a business owner.
00:21:14
I've graduated school. I'm very much into, like, what,
00:21:18
what my future's going to hold? As far as like, financially and
00:21:20
I can start understanding things like that, you know, working to
00:21:24
support my family. So I go to a rally was called
00:21:27
open. California.
00:21:29
And it was just to open businesses in California and I
00:21:32
see a bunch of make America great again has and I'm like,
00:21:36
hold on, what's going on here? Like, I'm at a trump rally,
00:21:39
like, I'm a voice supremacist rally.
00:21:41
Like, what's going on? And then I see a lot of
00:21:43
Hispanics. And then I see Anthony, and I
00:21:46
see a hot Heaven Tura and I ended up following them on
00:21:49
Instagram, somehow. And at the time, Anthony went by
00:21:52
conservative Latino. And I was like, what the heck is
00:21:56
a conservative? I have never heard that term
00:21:58
before. So, you know, I'm not working at
00:22:02
this time because we're shut down and I just fell into like a
00:22:06
deep Rabbit Hole of research. I looked up everything that
00:22:10
Trump has said the transcripts, the full videos, I found videos
00:22:15
of Hispanics that were pro-trump, what they were
00:22:18
saying, compared, and contrasted and next thing I know I'm like,
00:22:21
oh my God, I'm conservative, I'm 100% conservative.
00:22:25
Limited government Family Values Pro God, Independence
00:22:31
hard-working American dream, like everything.
00:22:33
Pro-gun I was already programmed my family's very much like
00:22:36
pro-america and yeah, like it just really is not like my
00:22:41
values changed. They were just misdirected.
00:22:45
So everything that I had already linked been working for and
00:22:48
believed in those core values, didn't change, but I just felt
00:22:52
that the Democratic party was everything that That I had ever
00:22:55
stood against, especially Big Brother government, since, you
00:23:00
know, very, very young teenage age.
00:23:02
I was always against a big government.
00:23:05
And when I saw the lockdowns happen, the mass mandates, the
00:23:08
vaccine mandates. Like I like this is Big Brother.
00:23:11
The Democratic party is big brother now, so I don't want to
00:23:15
say that I was not conservative, but I just had my My information
00:23:20
on my labels confused, but as far as my values, I think they
00:23:23
were always more conservative leaning.
00:23:28
And as for me, I actually never really was political.
00:23:34
But I would like to say that I've always kind of been
00:23:36
conservative at least culturally and like, lifestyle-wise.
00:23:40
I grew up Pentecostal Christian, my mom was very deeply
00:23:44
religious. I think it's one of the first
00:23:46
thing she saw when she came into the United States was a
00:23:49
Spanish-speaking church. And to me, this is why I make a
00:23:53
big argument for churches to be more vocal today because a lot
00:23:56
of immigrants that are coming in are Really Catholic Protestant
00:24:00
and they were one of the first things they do is see church for
00:24:03
that sense of community, you know, they don't, they don't
00:24:05
know anyone, they don't really know their Community, they don't
00:24:08
know their surroundings outside of maybe their family but they
00:24:10
are congregating. This is why I advocate heavily
00:24:13
for for churches to stop being so weak in church.
00:24:16
Leaders to stop being so weak to start engaging and culture, and
00:24:20
politics to, to inform their Community.
00:24:23
What's really going on out there in the world.
00:24:26
But, yeah, my church was It's actually pretty legalistic.
00:24:30
There was a lot of there was a lot of things that were probably
00:24:35
considered very extreme. I'd like to say that my mom band
00:24:39
Disney before you know that the recent boycott Disney, you know,
00:24:43
started by the conservative movement.
00:24:45
But yeah, there was a lot, there's a lot of, you know,
00:24:49
pretty pretty Baptist, Pat pastures, even Spanish-speaking
00:24:52
ones that were heavily against anything secular.
00:24:55
We weren't allowed to listen to secular music.
00:24:57
We weren't allowed to watch secular movies.
00:24:58
We're about to go to the movies. We weren't allowed to go to
00:25:00
theme parks anymore, really? That didn't glorify God, we
00:25:04
weren't allowed to go to it and my mom kind of up by Abode by
00:25:07
those rules but we created a culture within the church.
00:25:10
And to be honest, as a kid, all you really care about is
00:25:13
friends. So because I had friends at
00:25:15
church, I just kind of accepted this but definitely very very
00:25:20
culturally and religiously conservative going up and it
00:25:23
just kind of stuck with me. And so obviously, when I turned
00:25:26
18 I turned pretty rebellious. I wanted nothing to do With
00:25:29
that, with the way, my mom had brought me up and the, you know,
00:25:33
going to church five times a week sometimes.
00:25:36
And that's just the way the our church was, you know, we had a
00:25:38
lot of service because the church leader said like, well,
00:25:43
you don't have time to sin if you're just at church all the
00:25:46
time, you know. And I'm like, well, I guess he
00:25:48
makes a valid point. But, but yeah, as far as
00:25:53
politically conservative, I had never registered to vote prior
00:25:58
to 60, not even vote on the 2016 presidential election.
00:26:01
I knew that it was probably the biggest one of my lifetime and
00:26:05
it turned out to be that way. I, it definitely woke me up and
00:26:08
and I just remember that after Donald Trump won, obviously the
00:26:13
great meme Wars of 2016. We're pretty rampant.
00:26:16
And I started seeing a lot of memes about how, you know, white
00:26:19
people were going to force, you know, Mexicans to be deported
00:26:22
and stuff. And so, I followed a lot of,
00:26:24
like, left, this circle, me makers, I guess that, you know,
00:26:28
No were pretty adamant that now because Donald Trump won that it
00:26:32
was going to be very negative for years for the Hispanic
00:26:35
community. And so I started kind of
00:26:37
researching and looking into podcast and stuff to listen to
00:26:41
kind of catch up to two political news.
00:26:43
But I think that the thing that woke me up the most was 2017.
00:26:48
I had just left the military after 10 years and I went to
00:26:51
school and that was my first experience really with being in
00:26:55
campus and then, especially being in California.
00:26:57
A lot of people know that California On our campuses are
00:26:59
very, very liberal, and left-leaning, and I met a lot of
00:27:03
Hispanic friends and, and just friends in general, that were
00:27:07
very political and very outspoken.
00:27:09
And one of those friends, I talk about him all the time, his name
00:27:13
was Jose forego, so he actually help campaign for Bernie
00:27:16
Sanders. So he was kind of like a leftist
00:27:18
populist guy and we were talking politics and he would kind of
00:27:22
tell me why he voted for Bernie Sanders and why he hated Donald
00:27:25
Trump and why Donald Trump was, you know, racist.
00:27:29
And it was that that really woke me up to politics because I
00:27:32
wanted to know more now that I was out of the military.
00:27:35
I wasn't moving all the time. I wanted to really just kind of
00:27:38
make a difference in my immediate community.
00:27:40
And I knew that one of those ways was by voting and
00:27:43
registering to vote and getting politically active.
00:27:46
And so I attended my first kind of like political rallies in
00:27:51
2017, but they were definitely like pro-second Amendment
00:27:54
rallies and more like right-leaning Riley's.
00:27:57
I started following like will Weights and a Paulina Fleck us
00:28:01
DC. Drano typical liberal.
00:28:04
I just kind of like started following people on the left and
00:28:06
on the right. I wanted to hear what both sides
00:28:08
had to say, and I wanted to definitely find out who this
00:28:11
Donald Trump guy was so that I could kind of, at least tell me
00:28:15
when he was going to deport me, even though he's a US citizen
00:28:18
which is again. You know what people insisted
00:28:21
was going to happen was I was going to be deported, I'm like
00:28:23
really but I'm a US citizen and they're like doesn't matter
00:28:25
you're getting deported. I'm like all right well I guess
00:28:27
I should start tuning in To his rallies and his conferences to
00:28:31
see when I'm going to get deported.
00:28:32
But no, that was really what it I found out that.
00:28:36
Hey, you know what? I agree a lot more with
00:28:38
conservatism. I'm already pretty culturally
00:28:41
conservative. I don't believe in a lot of the
00:28:43
progressive ideology. I definitely don't believe and a
00:28:47
lot of these radical movements and they know the feminist
00:28:49
movement of today. And then the black lives matter
00:28:51
of today, definitely not in line with anything Marxist or
00:28:56
communist and ideology. So I was just like well, I guess
00:28:59
I'm a conservative even politically speaking and and I
00:29:03
started listening to like, you know, daily wire.
00:29:05
So listening to like Matt Walsh. I'm sorry.
00:29:08
I listening to Ben Shapiro. He was kind of like this
00:29:11
conservative libertarian, so start listening to him, and he's
00:29:14
really good at debating, and that's what I liked.
00:29:16
I like being able to win debates, so I tune into Ben
00:29:19
Shapiro a lot because I'm like, I want to do that.
00:29:21
I want to win debates with facts.
00:29:24
And so, I would honestly say that that's that's what really
00:29:27
drove my passion to To create my, my page, the conservative
00:29:30
Latino at the time I went by an alias because I wanted to go
00:29:35
online and debate and and and, and be able to present a
00:29:39
conservative point of view from a conservative Latino and in
00:29:44
that were not all thinking the same way.
00:29:46
We're not all the same, you know, we're not a monolith and
00:29:51
yeah, I'm sorry, that's a, I went down and the rest is
00:29:54
history. As they say, it's all relative
00:29:57
Latino and you mentioned that. I was like, hey, that's a that's
00:30:00
a blast from the past. I think I was following you
00:30:02
back, then? When you're conservative Latina.
00:30:03
Hello. I was following you too.
00:30:07
So it's, yeah, Joe people knew me and how many times you kept
00:30:11
getting like band and kicked off IG?
00:30:13
And he had to keep updating different handles, but actually,
00:30:18
it's funny, you say, you brought that up because that's actually
00:30:21
why I started California underground was like, I was
00:30:23
tired. I didn't want to keep posting
00:30:26
stuff like politically on my personal page.
00:30:28
Age. Because I got too many people
00:30:30
like pushing back on my personal, like I post something
00:30:32
about Trump and, or against Hillary, and they'd be like, oh
00:30:35
my God, why do you trust or? And I'd like, family members
00:30:39
would get so upset is, so I was like, fine, I'll just create
00:30:41
another anonymous account and then one, you know, it didn't
00:30:44
turn out to be anonymous anymore after a while.
00:30:46
But so, do you see that like in your experiences, do you see
00:30:51
that experience sort of happening with a lot of
00:30:54
Hispanics and Latinos in the country?
00:30:56
Like, they are starting to see as long They tune in, especially
00:31:00
For You, Anthony working for Al Merrick and where they're seeing
00:31:03
actual conservative news. Not only just conservative news,
00:31:07
but in their language in Spanish.
00:31:10
Do you see a lot of people as they're exposed to it?
00:31:13
They're starting to go. Yeah.
00:31:15
Okay. This makes sense.
00:31:16
And I'm, I'm actually maybe I am Republican or maybe I am more
00:31:21
conservative. And I've always just assumed,
00:31:23
but now that I'm getting informed, I'm starting to kind
00:31:26
of wake up a little bit. Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:31
And you know, at the beginning of the podcast, you did bring up
00:31:34
that there there seems to be like a trend of conservative or
00:31:39
the Hispanic vote in the Latino vote.
00:31:41
Going more conservative, going more Republican and this is not
00:31:44
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00:31:46
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00:31:49
bit more about the Hispanic vote.
00:31:51
This book is called the Hispanic Republican.
00:31:53
It talks about basically, the Latino vote.
00:31:56
Historically, how? The Hispanic vote has
00:32:00
historically, since of the 1940s 50s.
00:32:03
Basically, stayed consistent, at a third of most spanic and
00:32:07
Latino voters, have always voted Republican.
00:32:09
And that's kind of stayed consistent.
00:32:11
It's a consistent even for like Donald Trump in 2016, you know,
00:32:15
in the high 20s and then, obviously, in 2020 was like low
00:32:18
40s. You know, According to some
00:32:20
polls, According to some data. But historically, I, you know,
00:32:25
if you're able to tie in the cultural conservatism, Them to
00:32:29
the political candidate and that political candidates going to be
00:32:32
doing a lot better. And I think that's what we're
00:32:34
starting to see now, where maybe in the past there was a lot of
00:32:38
conservative speakers that kind of stayed away from including
00:32:41
religion or religion. You know, they wanted to appeal
00:32:46
more to the secular to the atheist or to non-believers.
00:32:49
So they kind of toned it down and their personal believes
00:32:53
perhaps and I was. And I've seen that with many
00:32:54
candidates that they're just kind of, man.
00:32:57
I wouldn't even know you're a Christian.
00:32:58
I wouldn't even know you're a republican.
00:33:00
If unless you actually told me you were, you know, because a
00:33:02
lot of the stuff that you advocate for our kind of sound
00:33:05
either pretty moderate, or pretty or pretty Democratic, you
00:33:09
know. But we definitely are starting
00:33:12
to see it. Especially now, we're you having
00:33:16
2020, you know, this County out in Texas that has been, you
00:33:21
know, voting Democrat since like the 1920s.
00:33:24
And for the first time since the 1920s have voted Republican
00:33:28
Presidential candidate and I was for Donald Trump, you know?
00:33:31
And it you see this everywhere Myra Flores being the first
00:33:36
Republican to win or District since like the 1800s, you know?
00:33:39
It's just it's insane, what's happening?
00:33:41
And and what's interesting is, you can call this like an
00:33:44
anomaly. If it was, maybe like some
00:33:47
suburb somewhere, where Hispanics just eventually flock
00:33:50
to because they wanted to flee the cities, but you're actually
00:33:52
seeing this in districts and counties and cities.
00:33:58
And It's near the border where you know, Democrats swear to you
00:34:02
that you know, Democrat hit that Hispanics are all for Democratic
00:34:07
policies at the border that we're all for open borders.
00:34:09
I we're all for illegal immigration that we're all for,
00:34:13
you know. Hey we just want these people to
00:34:15
live a better life, what, which is true?
00:34:17
Everyone wants everyone to live a better life.
00:34:19
I don't think anyone condemns that, you know, especially as
00:34:21
Christians, you know, we want to help wherever we can whenever we
00:34:25
can but there's, you know, again, we go and length.
00:34:28
We Karina. And I have talked about this,
00:34:30
you know, I'm sure you guys have talked about this about the
00:34:34
penalties about the, you know, some of the consequences of
00:34:38
illegal immigration. And so what we're starting to
00:34:40
see is counties like this one anomalies like this, but not
00:34:45
even so much anomalies anymore, but it's just consistency across
00:34:48
the board. That the Democratic party is
00:34:51
losing the Hispanic vote and you even have, you know, a lot of
00:34:56
gaps that the president and his family are.
00:34:58
Helping with, you know, you start calling the Hispanic, you
00:35:02
know, diversity, San Antonio tacos, you know, then that's
00:35:06
when you're going to start having a lot of problems, you
00:35:08
know? And so when you start calling us
00:35:09
tacos and again, what did we do? As a, as a demographic.
00:35:14
We embraced it, we got shirts coming out, you know, there's
00:35:17
there's Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are selling shirts saying I am
00:35:20
not a taco, you know, or whatever it is.
00:35:23
Or I'm, you know, Joe Biden's favorite breakfast, taco,
00:35:26
whatever it is, you know. Going back to that, you know,
00:35:29
you call us a slur, you know, and we embrace it and we take it
00:35:34
boldly, you know, and profess it.
00:35:37
But absolutely, we see that as more and more people are seeking
00:35:41
the truth, as more and more people don't want to be lied to,
00:35:43
as more and more people are starting to realize and just
00:35:46
kind of see for themselves. You gotta, you got a lot of
00:35:49
people here in California, Hispanics.
00:35:51
And Latinos are looking around, and saying, like, wait a minute,
00:35:54
we have a Democratic governor, we have Democratic super
00:35:57
majority in the state. At assembling the state senate.
00:36:00
What is going on here? Why has nothing changed for me?
00:36:03
Why am I going to my gas pump? And it's a lot higher than
00:36:05
Republican states. I've had those people ask those
00:36:08
questions and that I do you do you know what's going on with
00:36:11
this? I keep hearing that they're
00:36:12
going to raise the gas tax again.
00:36:14
Is that true? And I'm like, absolutely it's
00:36:16
true. It's going up by three cents as
00:36:17
soon as July first. And then like what happened to
00:36:20
those debit cards? You know that Newsome was going
00:36:22
to send us. I'm liking they might not come
00:36:25
or they might come too late, you know they might come in October,
00:36:28
right? For you go vote, you know,
00:36:30
they're like, oh, that kind of seems suspicious, you know, that
00:36:33
they're going to give it to us in October, right?
00:36:34
As we're getting, you know, ready, getting ready to cast our
00:36:37
ballots and I'm like, that's just the way it works, man.
00:36:39
You know, so people are waking up to this people.
00:36:42
You know, one of the largest leftist platforms that is out
00:36:46
there is called me do and, and it's like, MIT you and, you
00:36:52
know, they're very good engaging in the Hispanic culture and
00:36:54
Latino culture, Spanish speakers, cetera Etc.
00:36:58
And And what I've started to see is that we are starting to get
00:37:01
more engagement and we're not even cultural, they do a lot of
00:37:04
culture and pop and and artists like you know, Bad Bunny.
00:37:09
But we're getting a lot more engagement.
00:37:11
Just on our news, people are starting to read who is Hunter
00:37:15
buying it. Why is hundred by two and
00:37:16
trending? People are are more interested
00:37:19
in. What's happening with the
00:37:20
president's son. Now, and what's happening with
00:37:22
Bad Bunny? You know, not in all cases.
00:37:25
I'm not saying that, you know, we put out Our work in bad
00:37:29
bunnies, latest album, by no means, but people are
00:37:32
interested, you know, but people are more interested in.
00:37:35
Hey, what's going on? I want to be informed, is this
00:37:38
really happening? Why is there all these videos of
00:37:42
the president son's penis more? You know, I look, man, I've had
00:37:46
two, I've had to see more of this guy's junk.
00:37:49
Then I ever cared to in my entire life.
00:37:52
I've never seen so much of it and I'm like, gosh, this guy
00:37:55
loves recording himself, you know?
00:37:57
But No. Yeah, absolutely.
00:38:00
I'm seeing the shift not just in the polls, but we're seeing him
00:38:05
in the votes by having. Like we said, people like Meyer
00:38:08
florist, the very first Congress woman ever to be elected that,
00:38:13
you know, she was born in Mexico, she came out here when
00:38:15
she was two and then she worked the fields and and and I think
00:38:19
we're going to start seeing a lot more of that.
00:38:21
And I think that that is due to, you know, people are starting to
00:38:25
seek truth. People are starting to follow
00:38:26
Pages like Karina they're starting.
00:38:28
All the pages are California, underground is starting to get
00:38:30
involved there. You know, reading American,
00:38:33
they're watching the videos, you're sitting down for the
00:38:35
interviews, you're sitting down for the podcast and and I think
00:38:39
that that's going to be the continuing trend for sure.
00:38:44
Yeah, I learned early on when you marry into a Mexican family,
00:38:48
you better be able to not only take abuse but also have to give
00:38:52
up you. So like once you get a nickname
00:38:54
you're just gonna have to roll it.
00:38:55
That nickname. That's your new nickname.
00:38:57
Yeah. And you better embrace it.
00:38:58
So Korea. What are your thoughts on
00:39:03
whether or not? There is a, is the message
00:39:06
getting out? Is it being effectively?
00:39:10
I mean, you're very good. Your great influencers, your
00:39:12
videos are great. Do you think there's More
00:39:14
influencers needed like you who are getting the message out in
00:39:19
these tight little videos. I think that are great that a
00:39:22
very informative tight, little informative videos that can
00:39:25
people can share and get that out.
00:39:27
Do you think there's enough of those?
00:39:29
Do you think there should be more of them?
00:39:30
Is the message getting out there in the right way?
00:39:33
I think there should be more of them and the We'll just have
00:39:37
more. Because, what's really, as
00:39:40
passionate as we are about politics, most people don't
00:39:43
care. They don't care until it starts
00:39:45
affecting their daily lives. So I think that's what's really
00:39:49
opening up a lot of like my close circle, in my circle of
00:39:52
influence outside of Instagram, you know, is when I start
00:39:56
hearing my friends and family bring up like the gas prices,
00:40:01
and then I can, or they know they seen on my Instagram, like,
00:40:03
hey, didn't they vote down that, bill, that Kevin Kelly's.
00:40:08
And I'm like, yeah, like so they're seeing it and really
00:40:11
connecting it in a way that's like affecting them on a
00:40:16
personal level. Is what's really I think opening
00:40:19
up most people's eyes in my experience.
00:40:22
Especially I work at all women's gym and they all know my
00:40:27
political views, and we never discuss politics, but they know
00:40:30
that I'm here for it. So I'm very like observant as to
00:40:33
what's affecting them and what's, you know, getting them
00:40:36
to the polls. From versus previous years where
00:40:39
they could care less and a lot of it has to do with their
00:40:42
children. Most of my friends are mothers
00:40:45
the first time, a client ever brought up politics to me, was
00:40:50
because a textbook that her son received was extremely sexual
00:40:55
and it really bothered her, she took it to the principal and
00:40:58
then she had seen that, I post something about that on my
00:41:01
Instagram. So then we discussed like how
00:41:04
politics is bringing those things into the schools and How
00:41:08
her vote is important when it comes to those things and
00:41:11
especially for local positions like you know, and anything
00:41:14
that's involved in the schools that are voted positions.
00:41:17
So being kind being able to connect that has been really
00:41:21
effective and other thing that we talked about was, you know,
00:41:24
the gas tax. And I posted that video of Alex
00:41:26
Lee, and the way he laughed when Kevin Kelly brought up like I'm
00:41:31
not going to let you turn this gas tax relief into an increase.
00:41:36
Like his laugh was so small. Mug.
00:41:38
And I think that's something that really bothers people is
00:41:41
that, you know, maybe it's not affecting you because you have a
00:41:44
hybrid car. But you're talking to parents
00:41:46
that are trying to figure out like what their next meal might
00:41:49
be. So for you to laugh in their
00:41:51
faces especially like in this man Community, like you know
00:41:55
respect is something that's very much a part about our culture to
00:41:59
you know, you don't laugh at someone when they're struggling.
00:42:02
So seeing that really pissed off a lot of people.
00:42:06
Another thing that I posted about was What's being allowed
00:42:09
medically to happen to children, without parents knowledge, like
00:42:13
the vaccines abortions. Now, you have sex assignment
00:42:17
surgeries that can be done on your insurance without your
00:42:20
knowledge and when I posted that, I had so many DMS from
00:42:24
friends. Is this true?
00:42:26
And like, girl I swear it's true.
00:42:27
Like look up the bill, I'll send it to you.
00:42:30
We can read it like these things are actually happening.
00:42:33
So anyway, that you can connect it into their personal lives.
00:42:38
Especially involving their children, that is what's really
00:42:40
making a lot of women passionate we're working with about six mom
00:42:44
groups, right now. Rnh A and it's all like Mom's of
00:42:48
Whittier parents of choice, La Mirada norwalk's for Choice.
00:42:51
Like the parents are getting very upset and it's really
00:42:54
motivating them to get politically involved.
00:42:58
Mitch Clemens he's running in my district against a very
00:43:02
long-term Democrat extremely well-funded and he got about 41.
00:43:08
Thousand votes and I was shocked.
00:43:10
So I got to meet him and he said he's specifically been working
00:43:13
with those parents groups going into the Facebook chats showing
00:43:17
up to their meetings, talking to them and seeing what's
00:43:20
happening. So I think that we really really
00:43:23
got to get out the information as to how it affects their
00:43:26
personal lives. That's why I like to post the
00:43:29
bills and be like hey did you know that this bill passed and
00:43:32
then just break it down for them and 30 seconds, things like that
00:43:35
are so effective. And I think some influencers
00:43:39
like that have right-leaning values but are afraid to post
00:43:43
politics think that they're going to lose followers or you
00:43:47
know, they're worried about maybe like what brands are going
00:43:51
to support them or not. Well Alex Lee never has to worry
00:44:40
about anything, because I'm pretty sure he was still lives
00:44:42
in his mom's basement or something like that.
00:44:44
And I don't think he has any bills that he has to worry
00:44:46
about. He's only like 22 years old or
00:44:48
something. Anyway, Sky, I think he's like
00:44:52
23. No, actually I.
00:44:56
So I subscribe to different things that way I can learn how
00:45:00
they are. Like, for instance, I found out
00:45:03
that how much people pay for canvassers and on the Democrat
00:45:07
side, Simple, disciple South. He's 27 because he did a bunny
00:45:13
Seven. Yeah, because he did a while he
00:45:15
did like a birthday push, let me just double check because I have
00:45:18
my email open. He's pulling a Brian stelter on
00:45:22
us when we thought he was like 50, but he's really just like
00:45:25
top three poor guy. Yeah, on 7-Eleven that's his
00:45:29
birthday. He turned 27.
00:45:32
Wow. Oh wow.
00:45:34
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, so we Just talkin about
00:45:38
like bills that I think a lot of people aren't, they don't really
00:45:42
know about and one that I think I I'm interested to see how it
00:45:48
turns out in my personal theory is that I think the Democrats
00:45:52
really shot themselves in the foot, and that's prop one.
00:45:55
I think prop one, the more people learn about and people
00:45:58
don't know what prop one is. That's the proposition that's
00:46:02
going to add a constitutional amendment in the state of
00:46:05
California that enshrines the right to abortion.
00:46:08
Basically all the way up until the day of delivery.
00:46:12
It's very vague. It's over Broad and I think the
00:46:18
more people learn about it, they're not going to be happy
00:46:21
with it. And I think they're going to be
00:46:24
shocked at the returns in the demographics that they see of
00:46:27
people voting. Now I mean the Asian-American
00:46:29
Community can be very conservative in this area, very
00:46:33
religious just as the Hispanic Community can be very
00:46:36
conservative and very large. Ages.
00:46:39
I personally don't see the Hispanic Community turning out
00:46:43
in droves to vote for prop one, there may be a good amount just
00:46:47
because that's what the Democrats tell them to do.
00:46:49
But I think there might be a good amount of pushback and I
00:46:52
think that comes to education and letting people know, do you
00:46:55
think, Hispanics will respond to prop 1 or do you think they'll
00:47:00
look down on it negatively? Remind me again prop 1.
00:47:10
So basically it passed the assembly up because we have a
00:47:14
veto-proof majority in both Chambers, but basically what's
00:47:17
going to be on the ballot in November is, you know, with the
00:47:20
in light of the Supreme Court Justices, you know?
00:47:24
Having a see abortion on. Yeah.
00:47:26
So basically for the viewers. Yeah.
00:47:29
So for the viewers in layman's terms, it's basically means that
00:47:33
We'll be voting in November proposition one and which are
00:47:37
Amendment, right? Yeah, it's a constitutional
00:47:39
amendment but yeah, it's a constitutional amendment for the
00:47:43
California state constitution and layman's terms.
00:47:45
It's basically you can have an abortion on demand, no
00:47:49
restrictions and it you don't have to give any reason for it.
00:47:54
That's basically like in the most black and white terms.
00:47:57
I I remember now and I think that if I'm not mistaken as
00:48:03
well, it goes a little bit further and says that it's also
00:48:05
going to guarantee contraceptives.
00:48:07
Yes, I think that that is where it's going to be a hook to kind
00:48:11
of lie and manipulate to people that they're basically making it
00:48:14
seem like, like, you know, the quiet Parts can be like, hey,
00:48:17
we're going to guarantee you abortion on demand, but also
00:48:20
contraceptives are you sure you want to get rid of
00:48:23
contraceptives? Or don't you want to change the
00:48:24
amount of guarantee, you know? So I think that they did it
00:48:28
really strategically. Because I know a lot of people
00:48:30
underestimate the Strategic behind, you know, a lot of
00:48:34
Democrats and their messaging in the way they do their things.
00:48:38
But I think that that's actually part of their stick is that they
00:48:41
make us believe that we they don't know what they're doing
00:48:44
but when it comes down to like the legislation part, they know
00:48:47
exactly what they're doing. They know why they leave things.
00:48:49
Very vague they know why they manipulate.
00:48:52
They know why they use this word or that word because they do
00:48:56
what what legally in a court of law?
00:48:59
Law. Someone would be able to get
00:49:00
away with with that terminology. So as far as prop 1, yes, if we
00:49:05
were to get out there and educate pro-life and you know
00:49:09
what? I wouldn't even say just
00:49:10
pro-life. I feel like that kind of like
00:49:12
that words just to General. I feel like really what it
00:49:15
should be is just your either pro-abortion or anti-abortion
00:49:18
because I kind of hate when people say like, oh, if you're
00:49:20
pro-life, that means you must be against the death, the death
00:49:23
penalty, right? And it's like, well, but also,
00:49:26
if you're pro-choice, what is it?
00:49:28
What? That you're the pro in choice
00:49:30
for and that choice is abortion, you know, so you're either
00:49:33
pro-abortion or your anti-abortion.
00:49:34
So I would say with a lot of, you know, looking at a
00:49:37
demographic of Catholics, believe it or not, the heaviest,
00:49:42
the the most dense populated Catholics is in California.
00:49:47
I was kind of surprised by that and so I'm just like, if you
00:49:50
just don't even Target, anybody else, just go straight to the
00:49:54
Catholics, go straight to them and tell them that.
00:49:57
What what's on the ballot? This November, Our is prop one.
00:50:00
That's going to be talking about, you know, abortion on
00:50:03
demand and up to nine months because we know that that's what
00:50:06
that means. We know that on demand means up,
00:50:08
to nine months. That's why you have do you do
00:50:11
judicial committee hearings with UC Berkeley law professors and
00:50:17
Jack, you know, Josh Holly the senator from Missouri talking
00:50:21
about, you know, can you define a man?
00:50:23
Can you define a woman? Can you, you know, would you
00:50:25
disavow? You know what?
00:50:29
Is it infanticide, you know, and they just refuse to answer these
00:50:33
questions because they know what they're doing.
00:50:34
They know what they're advocating for, you know,
00:50:36
they're not going to use a specific terminology because
00:50:38
it's going to be a bad sound bite.
00:50:40
But when you go down to the law, as exactly what they're
00:50:43
advocating for and so I think that if you just you know make
00:50:47
it a Target to or make it a point to Target just to
00:50:52
Catholics and get them out to vote.
00:50:54
I mean you're going to be able to not just undo prop one but
00:50:58
now Going to get this demographic to pay attention to
00:51:01
what else is on the ballot in November, you know but but
00:51:04
obviously we know that's not how it works.
00:51:05
We're not just going to go Target one, specific
00:51:07
demographics about informing everybody.
00:51:10
And I think that, you know, I think a lot of people, you know,
00:51:12
one of the things that I'm going to be working with the lung
00:51:14
American is making people aware of that proposition by going out
00:51:19
and doing a man on the street on that proposition.
00:51:22
So I'm going to go out and you know interview, a couple people
00:51:25
might do it by demographic, I might do it you know like hey
00:51:27
are you Hispanic? Are you Catholic?
00:51:29
Then he can I please interview you know and see what their
00:51:31
position is on that specific proposition and just be like,
00:51:35
hey look if you're like this lady, you might want to consider
00:51:38
registering to vote. If you're not registered to vote
00:51:40
yet and making sure that you defeat this proposition.
00:51:43
You know, in November, I'm not going to say it specifically
00:51:46
like that I have to do it in a journalistic way, you know, but
00:51:49
the point of that video would be to inform people.
00:51:51
Hey there is this proposition and you have a right to vote on
00:51:56
it is. As a matter of fact, it is your
00:51:59
duty to not just this nation but Cal as a California resident to
00:52:03
make sure that you are in line with the Baba's issues that are
00:52:07
being passed. And if you're not then it is
00:52:09
your duty to defeat these propositions and to defeat these
00:52:12
laws that are trying to be passed an amended, you know,
00:52:15
because a lot of people said like, you know, oh, this is
00:52:17
definitely going to pass. I'm like, well, with that
00:52:19
attitude. It is, you know, like and unlike
00:52:21
what are you proactively doing to inform people or going out
00:52:25
there to register people or to tell people?
00:52:27
Hey, there's just proposition that we need.
00:52:29
Feet November, or if you're for it, then, you know, then you're
00:52:32
for it, that's on you, you know, the if that's what your
00:52:34
prerogative. But I would be willing to bet,
00:52:38
you know money that most people would probably be not for
00:52:43
proposition one. But again, I think they were
00:52:46
very tricky and adding contraceptives because that
00:52:49
might be, you know, the thing that gets people like, well, I'm
00:52:52
not necessarily for abortion on demand.
00:52:54
I'm a male, I don't really care about that.
00:52:56
So I really my but contraceptives They might be
00:52:59
thinking like if I don't vote for contraceptives, they're
00:53:02
going to be banned in the state of California, you know?
00:53:04
And so again it's all about messaging, you know, and if they
00:53:07
and if, if males of California, you know if Brad Chad and Louise
00:53:13
think that the contraceptives are going to be banned, you
00:53:15
know, they're going to be like, holy smokes.
00:53:17
I got to vote in favor Proposition 1 or my condoms are
00:53:20
gone, you know. Like I got to make sure they
00:53:22
stay in place and so, you know, again it's going to be about
00:53:26
messaging. It's going to be about how who's
00:53:27
going to do the better messaging.
00:53:29
Who's going to do the better canvassing?
00:53:31
To make sure these people get out and vote?
00:53:32
Yeah, I think I've broke right now I'm not sure if I take away
00:53:36
our condoms. As far as women goes is I think
00:53:45
it's very split by age, so it's going to depend a lot.
00:53:51
What age demographic comes out to vote because I have seen a
00:53:54
lot of young Latinas being pro-choice as in like it's part
00:53:59
of like feminist, boss, babe movement.
00:54:02
They things they post, it's like, you know, woman's abortion
00:54:07
rights are women's It's and they really don't know the realities
00:54:11
of abortion. They don't know that this
00:54:13
proposition allow abortion up until birth.
00:54:16
So I think that education part for that age demographics going
00:54:20
to be really really important. That's if they even come out to
00:54:23
vote, I think women over 30 know a lot of women who have had
00:54:30
abortions at that point and you really start to hear the stories
00:54:33
and hear the reality of it and maybe they won't post about it
00:54:37
online. But But behind closed doors,
00:54:39
they do not support abortion. That's the majority of women
00:54:42
that I've been talking to especially within the church
00:54:46
again, but messaging is very key.
00:54:48
I think that Democrats and they do a very good job over here
00:54:52
especially in the Pico Rivera area of creating like a women's
00:54:57
empowerment kind of vibe around it.
00:55:00
There was a event recently and Pico Rivera for women's
00:55:03
empowerment run by a democratic politician and she just did a
00:55:07
really good job. You know, she had that she had
00:55:10
them come out, fill out job applications had a bunch of
00:55:13
speakers so I think if they're going to go after women and that
00:55:16
kind of way of like this is a women's empowerment thing.
00:55:19
You know, you're supporting other women, I do see them
00:55:22
voting for it. So I think that, you know, me as
00:55:25
a conservative woman whose 100% pro-life is going to have a lot
00:55:29
of work to do. One of the things I want to do
00:55:31
is have an event pro-life women's event because it's I
00:55:35
think it's very important for young latinas.
00:55:38
To see other Latinos that are very bold about being pro-life.
00:55:43
Like one of the highest engagement I've had on a video
00:55:45
is the video of Selena saying that she's against abortions.
00:55:50
And it's so interesting to me, like, why is that so important
00:55:53
for you to see Selena who's, you know, passed away a long time
00:55:57
ago, be against abortions, but that video has gone so viral
00:56:01
now, and I think it's because she's the only example of a role
00:56:06
model we have that's Because inside, they're pro-life, but
00:56:11
they don't have that, that example, or that person that's
00:56:14
going to put themselves out there first, to take the step
00:56:17
themselves. So we'll be hitting that very
00:56:20
hard. I have a group of conservative
00:56:23
girlfriends and then I have our NHA.
00:56:25
I know a lot of women in the church that are pro-life.
00:56:28
So we're going to be trying to put that message out there for
00:56:30
the young women, really, really hard.
00:56:32
Because I I get so worried about them when they're posting these
00:56:36
things about Option being empowerment, especially for them
00:56:41
to possibly have one themselves and then look back in 10 years
00:56:44
and be like, wow, like I was really brainwashed there and
00:56:48
there. So many women like that, who
00:56:50
stories really need to be told. So that's one of the things that
00:56:53
we're going to be working on is just, you know, removing the
00:57:00
deception of important abortion is empowerment.
00:57:02
There's no empowerment and killing your child, like that's
00:57:05
the opposite of women's empowerment.
00:57:07
You're telling a woman The she can't be successful or she can't
00:57:10
raise her child and that murder is the only option, but the way
00:57:14
that it's being positioned right now is that this is empowering
00:57:17
me empowering thing for young girls.
00:57:19
So I am a little bit worried about it.
00:57:22
If it's something that they're going to get very passionate
00:57:24
about and groups like, you know, me too and Latina bold and all
00:57:29
these pages that exist. If they're going to start really
00:57:31
pushing icao, see, is gonna I just she's done it before with
00:57:36
the government has some recall. I think she's going to come out
00:57:39
huge for it and she has a huge Latina following.
00:57:43
So I think we have a lot of work to do actually with that
00:57:46
proposition. So we'll see how it goes.
00:57:48
But we're ready for the fight. And in speaking of messaging, I
00:57:54
was texting Phil earlier today. That the RNC they had open up
00:57:57
different voter Outreach centers across the country.
00:58:00
I know in California, last weekend they opened up in
00:58:04
Hispanic Outreach Center in the Central Valley because there's a
00:58:07
lot of errors. Opportunity like for Congress
00:58:09
and there's a couple State House ceases and a state, senate seat,
00:58:15
that's up for grabs. So my question for both of you
00:58:19
is the Republican party, they are making efforts now, but what
00:58:27
would be if you had a chance to sit down with them and you know,
00:58:30
be able to, you know, let them know like hey we have an area of
00:58:35
opportunity for the November. Elections like down ballot, this
00:58:41
is easily the worst present that I've had in my lifetime and you
00:58:45
know inflation just hit record high.
00:58:48
And in California, we have a lot of ground in a lot of different
00:58:52
issues with the gas prices and whatnot.
00:58:55
What would be the solutions if you could tell the Republican
00:58:58
Party, how the better message for Hispanics?
00:59:03
I really think we need more events.
00:59:05
You know, the left is so good at having community events, and a
00:59:09
lot of times, they're not even positioned as political events,
00:59:13
but the politicians will be there.
00:59:15
So, they'll have like back-to-school things, you know,
00:59:19
Community, givebacks, giving out free things and then the
00:59:22
Hispanic Community shows up and they see the politicians name on
00:59:26
this huge banner and they're like, okay, that person is
00:59:29
giving me free stuff, you know. So I think just Really coming
00:59:34
into the community and getting those candidates on the ground
00:59:38
and seeing their faces seeing their names, that's what I would
00:59:41
suggest, is just getting boots on the ground, you know, like
00:59:45
the, of course, advertising and radio and all that's going to be
00:59:48
good. But if you can have a community
00:59:50
event, that's giving back to the community, in a positive way,
00:59:53
and then you they're able to associate that to the Republican
00:59:56
party. I think that would be huge.
01:00:02
Yeah, I definitely Karina is on the money there.
01:00:05
I, you know, even before I went in to pay journalism, now we
01:00:10
before I started working with a company and I was doing like a
01:00:13
little bit more independent informative stuff.
01:00:15
I also work with the rnh, a, which is Republican, Hispanics,
01:00:18
assembly, and here in California.
01:00:21
And, you know, always trying to collaborate with the California
01:00:25
GOP or the RNC in whatever ways we could to, you know, attract.
01:00:29
You know, to me, my passion has always been Getting more
01:00:32
Hispanics, involved in politics, to me, you know, a lot of people
01:00:35
kind of bash me for it and I'm like, yeah, man, but you got to
01:00:38
get them voting the right way. I'm like, well, I don't really
01:00:41
know what that means because there's bad people on both sides
01:00:44
of the political aisle. You know, there's, there's a lot
01:00:46
of people that pretend that they're good and then we vote
01:00:48
for them and then they end up doing absolutely nothing for us.
01:00:51
You know, and I think that probably all four of us here
01:00:54
being Republican voters can attest to that, you know, we're
01:00:57
equally as angry with the Republicans right now.
01:01:01
But but what I would I would just say is definitely the
01:01:04
Outreach in in that we need to get involved at the local level
01:01:09
and being able to connect with them at the local level.
01:01:14
And and you know, that can and that could include whether it's,
01:01:18
you know, more town halls or whether it's, it's, you know,
01:01:21
putting out your information and what you stand for your
01:01:24
policies, what changes you wish to to have and and to be
01:01:28
presented once elected into that position, put it in And in
01:01:32
Spanish because and reach out to people, you know, I've worked
01:01:35
with some campaigns for Republicans where they will only
01:01:39
do Outreach to other Republicans that's it.
01:01:43
They won't reach out to Democrats and they're like well
01:01:45
we would have to pay extra for that and that's just not money.
01:01:48
We're willing to spend right now or whatever it is and I'm just
01:01:50
like do just drop me off in a neighborhood and let me knock on
01:01:54
every damn door. You know like enough with the
01:01:56
apps enough with the analysis enough with the analytics just
01:02:00
drop me off and I'll go talk to everybody.
01:02:03
I don't care if you're a Democrat, I don't care if
01:02:04
they're independent, I don't feel libertarian, whatever it
01:02:06
is. Just, we need to reach every
01:02:08
single person. You just be surprised with the
01:02:10
amount of people that would react just, just from a simple
01:02:14
conversation, you know? And, and I tell this story
01:02:16
pretty often, but in 2018, when Gavin Newsom was running for
01:02:21
politics? Oh, I'm sorry for governor here
01:02:23
in California. You know, I had asked some of my
01:02:27
in-laws, you know, family family that, you know, by marriage,
01:02:31
okay? You know what who you guys
01:02:33
voting for? If you guys don't mind me asking
01:02:35
how are you guys fighting or whose approach to you, you know
01:02:37
what political candidate the go you know, there was, you know, I
01:02:41
was talking to somebody Spanish-speaking family and
01:02:44
they're like you know hey there was this people from a campaign
01:02:47
from Gavino Newsome and I'm like Gavino news own little thing
01:02:52
that's interesting. You know and and and the way
01:02:56
these canvassers present and on was that he was the Latino guy
01:03:00
that was running you You know what the slicked-back hair and I
01:03:03
was just like wow these people wine as far as bed 0 or r or
01:03:07
working his name you know. It's like it's not get it's not
01:03:10
Gavin you know it's I'm sorry it's not Gavino it's just Gavin
01:03:14
and he's definitely not Hispanic the guy, you know.
01:03:16
Absolutely not. I don't know who told you that's
01:03:18
like, well, they told me he was the only real teal running and
01:03:22
that he needed my support and so I voted for him.
01:03:25
That's that, you know, and I was just like, you didn't look into
01:03:28
it, you know, and they're like, why work, you know?
01:03:30
And that's kind of the problem is Lot of Hispanic me like a lot
01:03:33
of them. A lot of people have two three
01:03:35
jobs sometimes, you know, and I don't have time to sit down and
01:03:39
like, really go over all the policies and and especially if
01:03:43
whoever the candidate is, if they don't have their policies
01:03:45
in Spanish, they're not going to understand any of that stuff.
01:03:48
So, what are you going to do? They're going to call their
01:03:50
family and be like, who you voting for?
01:03:52
Who should I vote for? Who should, you know, that's
01:03:54
even happened to me or my mom's like a, who are we voting for
01:03:57
it? I'm like, Mom, sit down.
01:03:59
We're going to go over this. I'm going to tell you.
01:04:02
Exactly what the policies are and then you decide you, you
01:04:05
decide, whether the Democrat is better for you or the non party
01:04:09
preference or the libertarian that's running or the green
01:04:12
party, whatever it might be. But that's what it's going to
01:04:16
be. But it also starts with all of
01:04:17
us. We have to be in our homes
01:04:20
engage with our immediate family.
01:04:22
I can't tell you how many people you know like oh, you know, I've
01:04:24
registered hundred voters just this week and it's not like,
01:04:28
what about your brothers and your sisters?
01:04:29
And I go, I never talk to them about politics.
01:04:31
Oh, my But you can always inform them.
01:04:34
Maybe they might want be interested in you know in
01:04:38
wanting to register and voting but they just don't know.
01:04:41
So you have to be that person. I know a lot of people that like
01:04:45
oh, you know, I talk to people about politics all the time and
01:04:47
I'm like well what about on your immediate social media where you
01:04:51
have access to dozens to hundreds of immediate close
01:04:55
friends and co-workers? Like oh I would I would never do
01:04:58
that and I'm like you just never know and and To that point in
01:05:02
case it's just happened to me, literally like three days ago
01:05:06
where you know, Karina, we're going to like this far right
01:05:10
Latino summer Trend right now with the hashtag.
01:05:12
So people are submitting videos for us to post on our social
01:05:15
media. And I posted a woman and another
01:05:20
woman contacted music. Oh my God, that's my friend.
01:05:23
I had no idea. We follow each other and
01:05:26
everything. I never knew that she was a
01:05:29
Republican and I was just like Wait a minute, you have this
01:05:33
person in your instant friends and you've never even posted
01:05:36
anything that remotely lets people know where you political
01:05:41
and he's like, how I never do that.
01:05:42
Or even if I talked about it at this point.
01:05:45
Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, wow, I cannot
01:05:48
believe that. I'm just like, that's insane to
01:05:51
me. I don't know what that feels
01:05:53
like because all my family, there hates me or loves me, you
01:05:55
know, because because I just don't shut up about politics,
01:05:59
you know, but that's just you know that Each their own.
01:06:02
I understand, you know, especially with co-workers and
01:06:05
colleagues and your boss, if he's following you, you know,
01:06:07
but my boss follows me employees me because of my political
01:06:10
views, you know but no yeah definitely Outreach informing
01:06:14
people and putting your policies in English and Spanish so that
01:06:18
people can read them for themselves and make an important
01:06:20
decision. I think that that will
01:06:21
definitely help. Yeah, I never understood, and
01:06:25
especially here in California. Republicans have to get past
01:06:27
this like this, I hate to call like a boomer man.
01:06:31
Ality of like is America and we speak English here in this
01:06:35
country. It's like you have to get out of
01:06:37
that mentality. This is California.
01:06:39
You gotta have your ads in Spanish.
01:06:42
You can speak Spanish like it's, it's a and there's there's a lot
01:06:47
of people who like I deal with clients as an attorney, who are
01:06:51
Spanish speakers, they may speak English, but they prefer to
01:06:56
speak in Spanish, it's more comfortable for them, but it's
01:07:00
nice to them to know that they Have a Spanish speaker that they
01:07:03
can talk to and I think that's where it comes from.
01:07:06
Is this, this Comfort level? And the Republicans just have to
01:07:10
get out of that mindset and just start reaching out and that way
01:07:14
and I always find it funny. Maybe it's better for for people
01:07:18
like you Anthony. It's great that Fox News hasn't
01:07:21
really picked up like a Fox News like in espanol, like they
01:07:26
haven't done anything. They refuse to do that, but hey,
01:07:28
it opens up the opportunity for like L American and then there's
01:07:31
like America. Now on SiriusXM, so there's all
01:07:34
these new avenues that are reaching out, but I think
01:07:36
there's a void that needs to be filled and it is being filled by
01:07:40
news groups like yours. Yeah, and I think that, you
01:07:44
know, one of the things that people Miss is that politics is
01:07:48
a whole language within itself. I can go up to a random person
01:07:52
and be like, hey, did you know about SB 12:29 and, and how
01:07:57
they're trying to amend the and there's just like, whoa, whoa,
01:07:59
whoa, what. Like you just said words, I have
01:08:02
no idea what you're talking about and I'm like, well, you
01:08:05
speak English right? Like yeah, dude, that's
01:08:06
politics. I don't know, I don't know
01:08:07
anything about politics. You're talking about, you know,
01:08:10
just today for example, I I was at the church and I was talking
01:08:14
about, you know, the State Assembly and the state senators
01:08:17
and they're just like, what is that?
01:08:18
What does that mean? I'm just like, you don't know
01:08:20
who your state assemblyman person is?
01:08:22
Like, I know who the president is that count?
01:08:25
And I'm just like, man, even like English speakers have no
01:08:27
idea what politics really is, and how to break it down, but
01:08:31
you're absolutely right, and you brought up a good point.
01:08:33
That obviously some people that speak Spanish that were born
01:08:38
speaking Spanish, and then out learned English, albeit a might
01:08:42
be Broken. They understand a lot of English
01:08:44
but then you start talking to them about SP bills and a be
01:08:49
bills and house bills and Congressional.
01:08:51
They're just going to completely disengage because a they don't
01:08:56
understand it, but also they might be very embarrassed to
01:08:59
admit that they just don't know what you're talking about.
01:09:01
That's when they get very uncomfortable.
01:09:03
Like own, you know, they don't know no you know, like no.
01:09:08
No, no. We did, you know?
01:09:09
No, I don't know nothing. You I don't have time.
01:09:12
Exactly. And so by putting it in Spanish
01:09:14
now you're helping them better understand like what this stuff
01:09:17
really means. So I agree with you, we got to
01:09:19
get rid of that mentality and and really engage with the
01:09:23
Spanish-speaking Community, especially in California if we
01:09:26
were, you know, up in Washington.
01:09:28
I don't know. Some state that doesn't have a
01:09:30
lot of Hispanics, I'd be like, we don't really need that, you
01:09:34
know, like, come on, we're like 90%, you know?
01:09:37
White or whatever or a white and Asian and black.
01:09:41
We don't really have Hispanics out here where we're good.
01:09:43
But come on. Yeah and so forth.
01:09:50
And someone was like why is she speaking in Spanish?
01:09:53
I like really like her districts like 99 percent.
01:09:56
Hispanic why do you like why? But yeah, seems to have like an
01:10:02
issue within. I'm like what do you want people
01:10:04
to understand what you're saying?
01:10:05
Like, you have to understand like who Speaking.
01:10:08
See on who the audience is like, you want them to understand, so,
01:10:11
but there does seem to be certain people.
01:10:15
Not just like, within the GOP, but within like the the movement
01:10:19
to that don't don't want to have other languages, and it's not
01:10:22
just Spanish to. But, you know, like over here, I
01:10:26
think 62 this trip or Burton, Frank was running, he had his
01:10:30
ads and do languages for the Asian community.
01:10:33
So it's like, you know, you just want to hit your demographics
01:10:36
but it seems like, a lot of people don't understand that or
01:10:39
something, or they think it's like offensive to American
01:10:42
culture, something No, you're just a real quick Point.
01:10:47
Like it literally just today, we were going to our Facebook.
01:10:50
Our Facebook is our largest platform for L American, and we
01:10:53
got over 500 thousand followers there.
01:10:57
So we put a lot, you know, because we are a bilingual
01:10:59
English, Spanish news media company.
01:11:02
We put a lot of things in English, and we put a lot of
01:11:04
things in Spanish. So you need to think about all
01:11:06
of our articles is that they're all translated.
01:11:08
So you can read them in English and you can read in Spanish.
01:11:10
So if you go to El Americano.com, you can look up
01:11:13
any article. By default, it will be in
01:11:15
English because obviously, you know, we are American and we are
01:11:18
in America. We are Media Company targeting
01:11:21
American Hispanics but also just all Americans with truth and
01:11:25
hard-hitting, facts and stories. But there's an option to go into
01:11:29
Spanish and so we post a lot of English and Spanish videos and
01:11:32
articles and in almost every single time we put anything in
01:11:36
Spanish there's you know, private users with no profile
01:11:40
pictures behind you. So it might just be trolls.
01:11:42
I don't know, but there They're commenting like, hey, this is
01:11:45
America speak English. Like we don't need none of that
01:11:48
Spanish stuff here, you know, and I'm just like, you realize
01:11:51
we're like, on the same team politically, right?
01:11:53
Like, I don't understand what the call for that is, but but
01:11:57
even more to that, I have just a quick Point.
01:12:01
I've had this discussion with many people where they say,
01:12:04
well, they should have to learn English because they should have
01:12:06
simulate. I agree.
01:12:09
I agree. You need to assimilate to the
01:12:11
hosting nation that host nation that has opened up its Is that
01:12:14
has opened up, you know, it's Nation to you, you should have
01:12:18
to assimilate and it's not so much like a cop.
01:12:21
You know, I hate using the word a colonizer mentality but it's
01:12:24
like, hey you chose to come here and this is a language, we
01:12:27
speak. Have some respect.
01:12:29
I agree with that. But also you limit yourself and
01:12:33
not speaking English because now, you know, I can't tell you
01:12:36
how many times I was in the I was a chef for, for over a
01:12:40
decade and, you know, it's not racist to say, so just A point
01:12:44
of fact that in my time a lot of the dishwashers where I was a
01:12:48
chef were either illegal or recently documented people that
01:12:53
just stayed as dishwashers. You know.
01:12:55
That's just what they wanted to do.
01:12:57
Very hardworking, people honest people, some of the nicest
01:13:00
people I ever met washing dishes, washing our pots and
01:13:03
pans etc, etc. But a lot of them were limited
01:13:06
because it didn't know any English, I was just like, hey,
01:13:08
you know, like I'm not trying to offend you but what's kept you
01:13:12
here? As a dishwasher for 10 years.
01:13:14
Fifteen years. They're like well, to be honest,
01:13:17
I just like working overtime. I like the overtime pay.
01:13:20
It's hard on me like you know, on my body but I make decent
01:13:25
money. I have benefits and I just don't
01:13:28
know any English II can apply for any positions, higher up,
01:13:32
because I'm very limited. And so there's that point in
01:13:36
that. If you don't learn English, you
01:13:38
could be limiting your full potential especially in a
01:13:41
country like America where English is the dominant.
01:13:44
Nate language. But aside from that, to the
01:13:47
people that say we should only speak English, I actually have a
01:13:51
rebuttal to that because we have a lot of ebony enemies abroad.
01:13:55
You know, there's a lot of people that hate America and a
01:13:58
lot of these enemies, they're teaching their children multiple
01:14:03
languages. I can't tell you know, Melania
01:14:06
Trump. For example she speaks seven
01:14:07
languages, she's highly intellectual.
01:14:10
She is a very smart woman. You have kids in different
01:14:13
countries that are Turning three, four, five different
01:14:16
languages and America is one of the very few places where you
01:14:21
only taught one language and you would think that if that was a
01:14:25
case then we'd be more united because there's no difference in
01:14:28
language. But what we have is some of the
01:14:29
most dumbest students in the entire world.
01:14:34
And I'm not relegating that to just because we only know one
01:14:38
language but there are studies that show that if you're
01:14:41
learning multiple languages it opens up new New parts in your
01:14:45
brain. I'm not going to get super
01:14:46
scientific but just just to draw that conclusion, like hey their
01:14:51
arguments to be had in teaching our children more than just one
01:14:54
language but multiple languages because in the long run, they're
01:14:58
going to be more successful are going to be more ambitious and
01:15:01
they're going to be they're going to be able to acclimate
01:15:03
really to anything in life because they don't have to worry
01:15:07
like oh I'm limited by my language.
01:15:09
Well, no even you know, there are studies that say that by the
01:15:13
year 2050. Believe that three languages are
01:15:15
going to be the most predominant are going to be English.
01:15:17
Spanish and Mandarin. It's like, well let's start
01:15:20
teaching All-American, kids, English Spanish, and Mandarin,
01:15:25
you know, it's not just about like, hey, teach him Spanish but
01:15:27
it's like, hey, if studies are saying that, these are going to
01:15:30
be the most three dominant languages.
01:15:32
Let's start getting them ready now for that.
01:15:34
And again, it's it. I don't think it's a slap to
01:15:37
America. I don't think it's a slap to
01:15:40
American traditions. It's just about better preparing
01:15:42
our children to be able to come Pete on a global scale, you
01:15:46
know, but that's, that's a further topic, that one day we
01:15:51
can probably delve into, you know.
01:15:52
But that was just a quick point point there.
01:15:56
So, you brought up your site, L American, we had this article.
01:16:00
We want to discuss. I think kind of ties in with the
01:16:06
sort of the, I guess the anxiety that immigrants face when they
01:16:12
come to this country or they, They may not be documented and
01:16:17
not really be a part of society and those terms.
01:16:21
And let me see if this actually wants to Share this time.
01:16:27
We'll technology work cross your fingers, say a prayer up, there
01:16:31
goes. Okay, so the the title I had to
01:16:36
read the article a couple times because it's a little confusing.
01:16:39
What really happened here so Anthony, why don't you give us a
01:16:43
rundown? What happened in this article?
01:16:45
What you can take away from this story Yeah.
01:16:49
Absolutely. So for those that are tuned in
01:16:51
and just in case you haven't heard about this story yet, but
01:16:55
there was a very viral story that didn't really have a source
01:17:00
up until recently or didn't really have.
01:17:03
I would say a lot of factual credibility, you know, there's a
01:17:07
lot of doubts, there was a lot of like hey what's going on
01:17:09
here? There's some loopholes.
01:17:10
Wait, why is there? No police record, etc, etc.
01:17:14
So by now I'm sure a lot of people have heard about about
01:17:18
the 10 year old that was raped in Ohio that due to the recent
01:17:22
Roe v-- Wade and Ohio changing. Its abortion laws.
01:17:26
That this 10 year old was raped and she had to cross state
01:17:30
lines. I believe it's just the state of
01:17:32
Illinois, if I'm not mistaken. Let me see.
01:17:36
But she had to leave to a different state to basically be
01:17:39
able to have an abortion. And so obviously just brought up
01:17:47
a lot of controversy It made national news.
01:17:49
The president talked about this, the vice president, talked about
01:17:52
this and they're like, hey, like this is pretty bad, you know?
01:17:56
Like we should always care for especially these children.
01:17:59
I mean, you know, it's a child, it's a ten-year-old.
01:18:01
And so, obviously, it made national news, but even since
01:18:06
that there was a man that, you know, eventually they're like,
01:18:10
hey, what's going on? What, why hasn't anyone been
01:18:13
arrested, why is there not even a police report?
01:18:16
And then it just came out about two days.
01:18:18
Days ago or a day ago. That a man has been arrested and
01:18:21
that this man is an illegal immigrant and so now I'm people
01:18:24
were saying like, Ah, that's why there was no report because the
01:18:29
man, you know, well, that's why there was no widespread news or
01:18:31
that's why the media didn't want to leak the story.
01:18:33
Or they don't want to leak who this guy was because he was an
01:18:37
illegal immigrant. And obviously, that is already a
01:18:40
point of controversy along political lines about illegal
01:18:43
immigration, is it safe to have them, you know, should we Deport
01:18:48
I'm should should they be allowed to stay?
01:18:50
Should they be a lot of position?
01:18:52
There's all this talk around that topic and so what happened
01:18:58
was you have Telemundo that always actually able to find the
01:19:02
mother of the 10 year old rape victim.
01:19:05
And you know you you have like this image where it's a little
01:19:08
new reporter and she has the microphone up to the door and on
01:19:13
the door, the door is slightly cracked and that's where the mom
01:19:17
is. Talking through and you know,
01:19:19
you can find this video online. All you gotta do is just type in
01:19:22
you know, mother of ten-year-old rape victim, you know.
01:19:25
But basically she claims that everything is a lie.
01:19:28
She is saying that the man did not rape the ten-year-old.
01:19:31
Girl the mom says that you know she is a mother of the 10 year
01:19:35
old girl. She says that it's all been
01:19:37
fabricated. It's a lie that the media has
01:19:40
been the story and that the Man simply did not rape to scroll
01:19:43
now, you know, it's it's really easy to kind of Read this story
01:19:49
and just be like ah ha ha. We've been lied to again.
01:19:52
You know like activists on either side are trying to
01:19:56
manipulate us etc. Etc.
01:19:59
But it's easy to kind of oversee.
01:20:01
What's at the root of this? And this is something that, you
01:20:04
know, before we all came on the show.
01:20:06
We kind of discussed a little bit and Karina, maybe you can
01:20:08
kind of jump in here, you know, feel free.
01:20:11
Whenever that unfortunately, you know, I grew up with a lot of
01:20:17
um, duck. Undocumented family.
01:20:19
I grew up in a apartment complex that a lot of my neighbors were
01:20:24
undocumented. There was a lot of families or a
01:20:26
lot of kids. There was a lot of older adults
01:20:29
that were undocumented. A lot of people that just work,
01:20:32
they came back to their apartment complex, and that was
01:20:34
that. But what ended up happening a
01:20:38
lot that I heard and saw for myself as there was a lot of
01:20:42
abuse Within These illegal families.
01:20:48
Unfortunately, for fear of being deported, they would never
01:20:52
report abuse, whether he was domestic violence or whether it
01:20:58
was child abuse or, you know, child, rape, whatever might be,
01:21:02
you know, it's an unfortunate fact that does happen and it's
01:21:07
not talked about enough within the illegal Community to
01:21:10
undocumented community. And so what'll happen is.
01:21:13
Unfortunately you have These victims that can never share
01:21:20
their story that can never share with law enforcement what's
01:21:22
happening to them. And I think that that's what's
01:21:25
happening here. There's a lot of red flags about
01:21:29
this mother saying that it's all fake.
01:21:31
You know. Again if you watch the video the
01:21:34
reporter comes to her house. She doesn't show her face.
01:21:38
She doesn't want to really talk to the journalist.
01:21:41
She's crying as she's telling the reporter.
01:21:43
It's all fake. He'd never did anything and So
01:21:47
there's been a lot of people both on the left and the right
01:21:50
that have worked in court cases similar to this and that like
01:21:53
she is clearly you know not okay maybe this woman has also
01:21:58
suffered abuse from this illegal man and maybe there's more
01:22:02
children that have been abused or maybe she's scared to talk to
01:22:05
reporters because they don't want to find.
01:22:08
They don't want anyone to find out that maybe she herself is an
01:22:11
illegal immigrant. For all we know like the entire
01:22:14
family might be illegal, there might be more illegals inside of
01:22:17
that, you know, house, whatever may be.
01:22:19
And so they're scared. That is a reality that happens.
01:22:22
You know, that's something that maybe is just unique to the
01:22:25
Hispanic and Latino community that were aware of this, because
01:22:28
we saw it growing up and I did see that going up, I fit, you
01:22:33
know, against all witnessed, I heard neighbors, I, we would
01:22:39
hear it. Sometimes we wake up to some of
01:22:41
the violence, you know. Sometimes, it would fight at
01:22:44
night, they would get drunk, whatever it might be, there was
01:22:46
physical altercations, between neighbors, whatever might be.
01:22:49
And the police were just never called.
01:22:51
Because a lot of these people were undocumented or illegal,
01:22:53
and they just fear that if they reported their husbands or, or
01:22:58
whoever might be that was committing the abuse and
01:23:00
whatever form, they were just be deported.
01:23:02
And so, I think that that's probably what's happened here.
01:23:05
And so, I think it now goes even beyond the abortion debate of
01:23:11
like, oh, well, look, if we don't, Why's it.
01:23:13
That's what's going to happen. Our oh look, if we Don't
01:23:15
Legalize It, This is we protect this and this is that now it's
01:23:19
going into this case where the alleged rapist is an illegal
01:23:25
immigrant and what else is going on in that house?
01:23:29
What other kind of abuse? If any you know it for?
01:23:32
For all we know this man is innocent for all we know this
01:23:34
mother just doesn't want the publicity and she's like, no,
01:23:37
they're lying about this, it's not true, that's not what
01:23:40
happened. So I think that there needs to
01:23:42
be a thorough Investigation into what really happened.
01:23:45
I think that they need to make the family, feel secure that
01:23:49
nothing's. Going to come of it, you know,
01:23:50
Legal Group, percussion or whatever, might be.
01:23:52
I'm not sure. Whatever needs to happen.
01:23:55
But there needs to be Justice because this, this child, if
01:24:02
it's true, that she was raped. And if it was true again, not
01:24:06
doubting this child. I'm not trying to say I'm taking
01:24:09
the position here, but it needs to be proven in a court of law.
01:24:12
Law, right? And so if this is true, then we
01:24:16
need to do more for this family, there might be other children
01:24:20
that have been abused. This woman might have been beat
01:24:22
and abused for years, who knows, but that's why there needs to be
01:24:26
a thorough investigation because now, it's gone beyond just well,
01:24:30
should we legalize abortion or should we not?
01:24:32
Now? We're talking about another
01:24:33
problem. That is not talked about a lot
01:24:36
and that is the abuse of children, especially, children
01:24:39
and Women Within These communities that you Unfortunate
01:24:43
because they're undocumented illegal.
01:24:45
None of these cases go reported. So not now, there needs to be an
01:24:48
investigation on that, as well. It might have been before covid,
01:24:52
but there was like a string of like a Mexican workers that will
01:24:58
be walking home from work. They were getting junked.
01:25:00
I don't know if you remember that happening to Street vendors
01:25:05
and it was like, yeah, like teenagers were gangs that were
01:25:09
specifically targeting these workers because they knew that
01:25:12
they They were illegals and they weren't going to go to the
01:25:15
police and that was like kind of what your story was.
01:25:20
Romania was those, I think it was real and whatever that came
01:25:23
out and started talking about the street vendors in particular
01:25:26
that we're getting there were getting robbed and they were
01:25:29
targeting those groups specifically because they were
01:25:32
afraid to report it to law enforcement.
01:25:34
And what I think could be going on to is that the pro-choice
01:25:40
radical groups could be involved.
01:25:42
This, too, because I've seen live action expose some of these
01:25:48
groups. And once they get a hook in
01:25:50
these stories, they'll send people out to the families and
01:25:53
help them get abortions and make sure that they go through with
01:25:56
it. So it could be also that they've
01:25:59
gotten involved in are pressuring this woman to either
01:26:02
stop talking about it because Ohio did come out and say that
01:26:06
they would allow for an abortion in this case or it could be
01:26:10
that, you know, they don't want Aunt, their storyline of
01:26:15
abortion is going to hurt kids or hurt young girls to start
01:26:19
unraveling on them. So I wouldn't be surprised if
01:26:22
some of these radical groups are threatening them to especially
01:26:25
because they were the ones that eventually spread the story,
01:26:29
that's where I saw. This story first came about it
01:26:32
was about, it was coming from pro-choice groups and they were
01:26:36
having that messaging of like look what making abortions
01:26:39
illegal does. And then once it came out that
01:26:42
It was supposedly committed by an illegal immigrants, and it
01:26:45
just kind of disappeared. Like, the some of the posts were
01:26:48
taken down. Didn't want to talk about it
01:26:50
anymore. So I wouldn't be surprised if
01:26:53
they might do with this as well. Yeah, I remember a video of like
01:27:02
an older gentleman who is like, sawing paletas in his car and he
01:27:07
got jumped and I don't know if he got like badly beaten or
01:27:12
something like that, but the story was really sad that like,
01:27:14
he was just walking home with his car.
01:27:17
And he got jumped by several teenagers and got beaten like
01:27:21
clothes, like within an inch of his life.
01:27:23
That's how bad he got beaten. Yeah, absolutely.
01:27:28
It's like Arena said, it's unfortunate that it happens.
01:27:30
Again, I don't think there's a single person, you know, with
01:27:34
with a decent state of mind, you know, Christian or not.
01:27:38
That would be okay with beating up people because of their
01:27:41
citizenship status or just would not be sympathetic to a man or
01:27:47
woman that's just out there working, you know, and just
01:27:50
simply because of the citizen status, she's like, oh wait,
01:27:53
they're illegal or nevermind, like, who cares?
01:27:55
About that guy. Who cares about that girl?
01:27:57
You know, so no, it's definitely devastating.
01:28:00
And I think that in a way outside of the abortion talk, I
01:28:06
hope this case raises more awareness for what's happening
01:28:09
within this community is because I've always also used that case
01:28:13
against illegal immigration. I've always said like look man
01:28:16
it as long as we continue to allow people to work for cheap
01:28:20
labor. They don't have any rights, a
01:28:23
lot of people don't know that many If not almost all illegal
01:28:27
immigrants have to buy fake papers in order to work.
01:28:32
So, you know, I've I've personally had my identity
01:28:35
stolen three times in my lifetime.
01:28:37
Some people are lucky that. It never happens to them.
01:28:39
It's happened to me three times. And I first found out when I was
01:28:42
18 that have been stolen, as young as I was, when I was 18.
01:28:46
So these people have to work under fake names, fake Social.
01:28:48
So they pay taxes under that name, they're just never allowed
01:28:51
to collect those taxes. So, a lot of people say, you
01:28:54
know, like all the These people don't even pay taxes.
01:28:57
I'm like, if you if you understood how that system,
01:29:01
unfortunately, works. You do know that not only do
01:29:03
they pay taxes but then they never get to collect that back.
01:29:06
So the government just keeps it, you know?
01:29:09
But again, it's a system that that's built to enslave, not
01:29:13
liberate and, and I've always said that the modern illegal,
01:29:18
immigrant with all their good intentions with all their good
01:29:22
hard work and ambition and dreams is a modern days.
01:29:25
Lathe, because they have no rights, they have to work, they
01:29:28
pay their taxes. They have to pay just like
01:29:31
everyone else to have to fill up their gas, just like everyone
01:29:34
else but they get zero subsidies, they get zero
01:29:38
anything, you know, and there don't get me wrong, there are
01:29:40
some states that do provide it. Now, I You Gavin Newsom, just
01:29:44
recently said that he's going to even provide healthcare for for
01:29:47
every Californian, regardless of citizenship status.
01:29:50
So, there are strides being made.
01:29:52
But again, it shouldn't be a stride that has to be made
01:29:54
because we should fix Fix the system to begin with.
01:29:57
Not just say hey we're going to be a sanctuary State from here
01:30:00
on on and and hey we hear the problems of that community.
01:30:04
So now we're going to, you know, chip in here, chip in there, it
01:30:08
should just be a problem. That should be completely
01:30:10
absolved, you know, and not allowed to exist my opinion.
01:30:14
It's unsafe. You know, it's unsafe and so
01:30:17
many levels and it's unsafe the way that they're brought here.
01:30:20
And now that you've I didn't know, I hadn't actually heard
01:30:23
about abuse of women and children being And because they
01:30:26
were afraid that they were undocumented.
01:30:28
But that's just another Point towards, why?
01:30:30
I don't support illegal immigration.
01:30:32
Like if that's another part of the issue than absolutely like
01:30:36
there should be solutions to getting those people citizenship
01:30:39
or you know giving them full protection under the law through
01:30:42
some kind of program and I don't know what that program is which
01:30:45
is allowing them to live in fear.
01:30:48
Literally, the rest of their lives is not a solution that's
01:30:51
works for either side and especially with DACA, I actually
01:30:55
have a lot of Friends that are on DACA and they are very Pro
01:30:58
Trump and a good friend of mine. Like, we have been talking for
01:31:01
months about Trump and, you know, the right and all that
01:31:05
stuff. And I told him like hey when are
01:31:07
you going to go vote? And so I can vote, I'm DACA and
01:31:10
I was like, what? This whole time we've been
01:31:12
talking, like you didn't tell me.
01:31:14
So I just wanted to ask him questions like so you can vote
01:31:17
and it's like, no I can't do this, I can't do this, I can't
01:31:19
do that and he's been here since he was two years old.
01:31:23
So that whole that whole program to me, So strange like you bring
01:31:27
over these children. When they're, you know, they
01:31:30
don't even know the country that they're come from and they have
01:31:33
no path to citizenship through that program.
01:31:36
It's such a weird programs me. Like I don't understand what the
01:31:39
what the intentions were behind it.
01:31:42
Until I heard people like you say it's slavery.
01:31:45
I was like, yeah, sure. Sounds like it a lot.
01:31:47
You bringing people over here as children.
01:31:49
They don't know their country. Your, you know, they're paying
01:31:52
into the system, they're working.
01:31:53
They're going to school and doing everything.
01:31:55
Yeah, but they're not full citizens, and they don't have
01:31:58
the protection of citizenship. It's really weird.
01:32:01
And maybe it might be considered a conspiracy to some people, but
01:32:05
it does sound like a type of Slavery to me.
01:32:08
Absolutely agree with that. Almost sounds like Stockholm
01:32:15
syndrome where they welcomed them over and then they put them
01:32:21
in a in this situation where they really can't be free in
01:32:27
America. And then at the end, all of a
01:32:29
sudden, the Democrats go, oh, well, we're going to give you a
01:32:33
standing wave so you should vote for us for the rest of your
01:32:36
lives. It's kind of interesting that
01:32:38
they create the problem, and then they solve the problem,
01:32:41
obviously, hoping that you'll give them.
01:32:44
That's why I really chance for the rest of your life left left.
01:32:49
He knows that are very like abolish ice because they're
01:32:53
Dhaka like there's a girl on Instagram.
01:32:56
I've heard her handled, she has a lot of followers and she's
01:32:59
very angry about the immigration system here.
01:33:03
And I get it because, you know, she she was brought over here as
01:33:06
a child. She can't actually go back to
01:33:08
their, to their country and that's because they don't have
01:33:11
citizenship. So if they go back, like, Are at
01:33:14
risk of not being able to come back in.
01:33:15
So, I understand their frustrations and that's actually
01:33:18
a really good group to have a discussion with and kind of
01:33:22
like, open up their mind a little bit too.
01:33:25
Well, you know, Trump did offer amnesty and Democrats rejected
01:33:28
it on several occasions because they didn't want the wall being
01:33:31
built. So it was that is that something
01:33:33
that we can compromise on that. You know, maybe one group
01:33:36
they're like appearing to offer, you Solutions and it appears
01:33:41
around their side. But what have they actually put
01:33:43
on the Will for you to get you. That citizenship, whereas this
01:33:47
other side is, they're offering Concrete Solutions.
01:33:50
Is that something that maybe you might reconsider?
01:33:53
You know, where where your political alignment stands the
01:33:58
other, that's actually been pretty successful for some
01:33:59
people. So this has been a monster of a
01:34:09
podcast. I'm sure we could keep talking
01:34:12
throughout the entire night so I want to get to final inputs from
01:34:16
both of you and we'll bring it will kind of like round it all
01:34:20
and come back. You know Circle back and say
01:34:25
your opinion is Myra Flores a blip or is she a sign of things
01:34:33
to come and thing will start with you?
01:34:38
I definitely think that she's assigned to come Hispanics in,
01:34:42
are going fast, demographically. And even as a bloke voting
01:34:48
block, we are now the second largest demographic, you know,
01:34:51
next to, you know, white Americans.
01:34:54
And so I think that it's not going to be a blip.
01:34:56
We are here, you know, we are Americans, we love this country,
01:35:02
a lot of us are very conservative, you know,
01:35:04
socially, Culturally and we want to apply those into into voting.
01:35:10
I think we've reached time in our country where it's time to
01:35:13
pick a side. There's no sitting on the
01:35:15
sidelines anymore. There's no watching evil
01:35:18
triumphs because good men do nothing.
01:35:21
I think it's time for us to get engaged.
01:35:23
And we have to understand that it's not us, because we're
01:35:26
Hispanic, it's us because it's on us to do something, to create
01:35:31
change to be the change that we wish to see regardless of what
01:35:34
state you're in regardless. The color of your skin.
01:35:37
I think it's time for good people to rise up and I think
01:35:41
that you know it's it is easy to just say you know like oh well
01:35:45
Hispanics are can you know, naturally conservative sure but
01:35:49
we also need to remind people why it's important to be
01:35:53
conservative. And as we watch downfall of our
01:35:56
and, and the decline of our of society today, we're going to
01:36:00
see more people rise up like the Miraflores is of the world where
01:36:04
she truly is. Compasses her District.
01:36:07
A lot of people have bones to pick with her.
01:36:09
Some people even on the conservative side saying, you
01:36:12
know, like hey these are talking points that we don't agree with.
01:36:15
You know, she's talking about immigration and she's talking
01:36:18
about Dhaka. But if that's her, constituents
01:36:21
then who are we to say? Otherwise, it's kind of like
01:36:24
when I when people ask me all the time, you know?
01:36:27
Well how do you think Mitt Romney keeps winning?
01:36:29
And I'm like, look, he's clearly doing something right in that
01:36:33
his constituents, like them, you I don't understand it.
01:36:37
I might understand why they like the Mitt Romney's and the John
01:36:40
McCain's of the world or the Lindsey Graham's, but his
01:36:43
constituents continue to vote for the person.
01:36:46
So, obviously, he's doing something right and representing
01:36:48
them again. You don't have to like it's kind
01:36:51
of like the same thing with, you know, Christian Cinema and and
01:36:54
Joe manchin, they're doing something right to their
01:36:57
constituents. If they continue to get elected
01:36:59
as Democrats, but I see the poles.
01:37:06
I see the motivation, I see the faces Rising, the Carina
01:37:10
manuela's of the world, the rising up there.
01:37:13
They're making videos, they're feel emboldened Myra Flores.
01:37:18
You know, she's come in, and she's a heavy hitter, man.
01:37:21
She's out there, she's going up against New York time, she's
01:37:24
going up against the Washington Post.
01:37:26
She's going up against the establishment.
01:37:28
They they come down and they call her our Taco.
01:37:30
They call her, you know, other fake Republican or the Maga
01:37:34
Republican, they want to call her all Names.
01:37:36
And she's just like, I can take it all and it's because of God,
01:37:40
it is because of my belief in Christ that I will overcome and
01:37:43
I'm like, yo man more power to her, you know, so I definitely
01:37:47
not an anomaly. And I think that there's just
01:37:51
needs to be that connection that, you know, that, that that
01:37:56
connects the Divide of the GOP and the Hispanic.
01:38:01
And, I wouldn't just say the Hispanic voter because it goes
01:38:05
Beyond just a Hispanic voter. It's like, sure.
01:38:07
You can Target the Hispanic voters.
01:38:09
And then you can, you know, start trending it on, you know,
01:38:12
leaning, right? But just the Hispanic in
01:38:14
general. They're they're, they're here to
01:38:16
work hard. They're not here for handouts.
01:38:19
They're here to fulfill the American dream and its full
01:38:23
capacity and Encompass it and be a product of it.
01:38:26
Which is what Myra Flora said, she's like, why are they so
01:38:29
angry at me? I came here when I was two, I
01:38:33
worked the fields. I am.
01:38:35
Like the perfect, you know, embodiment of like that Mexican
01:38:40
that came here for a better life.
01:38:43
I encompassed it. I am a product of americanism
01:38:47
and they're angry at me for it because I love this country
01:38:50
because I love what it stands for.
01:38:52
So absolutely, we will see more of it and I think that we will
01:38:58
continue to see it and I think that, I mean, man, I thought the
01:39:03
2020 elections had me hyped. I'm looking forward to November
01:39:07
man. I'm looking for these local
01:39:09
elections, you got so many parents running.
01:39:12
I know ex-police officers and Healthcare works that have been
01:39:15
fired. You know, that are running and
01:39:17
they're counting on the Hispanic vote to put them over the edge.
01:39:20
So I think we're going to see a political earthquake come 2022.
01:39:24
And I think that, you know, like that book that I mentioned
01:39:27
earlier, where it talks about, historically, Hispanics, vote a
01:39:30
third Republican. I think that that number is
01:39:32
going to start increasing, and I think that he's going to get to
01:39:35
the It is 50/50. And if we start seeing
01:39:38
Hispanics, vote on a 50/50 scale, that's dangerous.
01:39:42
You know? That's that's when you're going
01:39:44
to have you. No real political movements and
01:39:48
shakeups Across the Nation for the best, you know, for the
01:39:51
better, you know. So we'll see.
01:39:54
The Carina is a is Myra Flores a blip or issue a sign of things
01:39:59
to come. One of the biggest reasons is
01:40:01
because the left's messaging has really been Focused on helping
01:40:07
the black and brown Community. Like if you look at the abortion
01:40:11
stuff, they're talking about how black and brown people need
01:40:14
abortions. So that's why why people should
01:40:17
support this, cause so when you have a black or brown candidate,
01:40:21
come in and say, actually, we don't need these things, it
01:40:24
really unravels their whole storyline.
01:40:26
And I think that's what's been. So dangerous is that they've
01:40:29
been creating all this messaging speaking speaking, on our
01:40:32
behalf. So, then, when you have someone
01:40:35
that Actually represents that Community come in and say,
01:40:38
actually that's not true. This is what our community
01:40:40
needs. And this is what our community
01:40:41
cares about. And if you really are a
01:40:43
good-hearted person, which I think most people generally are
01:40:46
just good-hearted, people who want to help other people out.
01:40:49
Then you're better off doing this or voting this way because
01:40:53
this is what's really going to help us.
01:40:55
So I think that's what's been so successful with our messaging is
01:40:58
just, you know, we are Americans just like you, we don't need
01:41:03
these additional things, you know.
01:41:05
And we know that these additional things are actually
01:41:07
costing us all money through inflation, through taxes.
01:41:11
And if we can just create like a unified messaging saying that we
01:41:15
are just Americans who want to raise our families, who want to
01:41:18
work hard and earn a good living.
01:41:20
And we don't need these programs that these people are trying to
01:41:23
get you to pass on our behalf. And I think that's why they've
01:41:26
had to really create a messaging of us, being far-right for
01:41:30
wanting those things because we can't come in and disrupt their
01:41:35
whole story. Line by saying actually, no, we
01:41:37
just want to work hard. We don't need open borders, we
01:41:41
don't need, you know, all of this free money that you want to
01:41:44
give us. We just need opportunities.
01:41:46
And that's what's really the left is doing right now is
01:41:49
taking away those opportunities. And I think if we can just focus
01:41:52
on, we're here for the American dream, just like, you are that.
01:41:56
We're going to get a lot of people to vote Republican
01:41:58
because it seems that they're the only ones protecting that
01:42:01
American Dream right now. Another thing is to Specially
01:42:06
with, in California. I am just so glad to be talking
01:42:09
to the three of you because everyone's always blasting
01:42:13
California online, you know, they're like California's done.
01:42:17
There's no hope for you guys but I think that there is a lot of
01:42:20
Hope in California, you know, we're staying here.
01:42:23
We're not moving yet. If anyone is moving, and we're
01:42:26
here to fight. So if there's anyone in
01:42:28
California, I just hope that you know that, you know, we're for
01:42:31
Californians here. We're fighting the good fight or
01:42:34
not going anywhere. There's a lot of To be done.
01:42:36
There's a lot of information to put out but we're here for it.
01:42:39
So I hope that we just can continue to work together.
01:42:43
August 6, we're going to have an events, it's going to be a
01:42:45
community give back. There will be kind of this.
01:42:47
There will be given out hot dogs and backpacks and it'll be in
01:42:51
Whittier Parnell Park if anybody wants to come down and yeah.
01:42:55
So thank you guys for having me on.
01:42:56
I really appreciate it. Well, thank you for coming on,
01:43:06
for this, this monster. I think we set a record for
01:43:09
podcast length, so it was going to be a jam-packed episode.
01:43:13
Okay, final question, if you have your choice for breakfast,
01:43:17
is it breakfast tacos or breakfast?
01:43:19
Burrito. Which one are you?
01:43:24
Go ahead. Karina I'm actually where we'll
01:43:27
spend Shadows. So that's neither.
01:43:33
Okay, I'm not a big fan of know. What about you that do?
01:43:36
There's not we the nacho cheese like these are good.
01:43:40
No, yeah, yeah. Well yeah, they're kind of like
01:43:44
breakfast nachos. When you go to Mexico City,
01:43:47
they're really big on Jewel. Achilles, they're, they're,
01:43:48
they're just everywhere. What about you Anthony?
01:43:53
Well, if I had to decide between a burrito and taco, I think I
01:43:56
would go with a burrito, because you can put so many good things
01:44:00
in there, man. You know, like a taco, depending
01:44:02
on how Make it, you know? Usually when I go breakfast
01:44:05
tacos, I go with like the classic like weenie and egg, you
01:44:10
know, with like maybe like a tiny bit of mayonnaise.
01:44:12
And then like some fresh cheese and salsa, but with the burrito,
01:44:16
you can just, you can mix it up and you can add that.
01:44:19
Now, you can talk. Now you can, you can skip the
01:44:21
weenie and you can go straight till I got them.
01:44:23
That's, I like adding carne asada and in the morning, you
01:44:26
know. So, so I like burritos
01:44:28
personally, you know, especially oh, man, everyone I went to
01:44:31
Texas. They have like a man.
01:44:33
Next text there and they added like carne asada and then I
01:44:36
don't know what I'm saying like that Carney, I said I'd found
01:44:38
the Asylum but they added like tater tots, you know, and I was
01:44:42
just like, yo tater tots. I'm like get out of here,
01:44:45
they're so good. So I might have to go with the
01:44:48
burrito for sure. I had huevos con weenies for the
01:44:52
first time this year and it's real.
01:44:56
I'll have to say it's relation is rough man.
01:45:00
Well, if I eat that cheese, For and I had it for the first time
01:45:05
and I asked my why I said, how come you've never made this for
01:45:07
me and she goes, why would I make?
01:45:09
This is like what I grew up on and TJ was what it was going to
01:45:13
be knees. It's like it's not something,
01:45:15
but I thought it was good, but I would definitely go probably
01:45:18
just a show, you know, big honkin, breakfast, burrito with
01:45:21
potatoes and bacon. What about using?
01:45:25
If you had to go breakfast, taco a breakfast, burrito, a burrito
01:45:28
for sure. I'm one of those people.
01:45:30
I appreciate breakfast food, like, The day of the, it could
01:45:34
be, like, midnight, like dinner time.
01:45:36
Like, I'll get a breakfast burrito.
01:45:37
I'm like, one of those and not, like, Chipotle either.
01:45:41
Like, I'm like, for real, like the real Bruce?
01:45:44
Yeah. Like the Taco Shop.
01:45:48
The real crazy ones were like you have to eat it all in one
01:45:51
sitting because otherwise it's going to fall apart and all the
01:45:54
grease is coming down. That's the tip.
01:45:56
Best type of burrito. Well, thank you guys for coming
01:46:01
on. Where can people find you?
01:46:03
And follow you and learn more about you.
01:46:06
Karina you go first. Those more about where people
01:46:09
can find you Karina underscore. And I'm also on Tick-Tock now is
01:46:14
conservative Mommy. So either one of those works.
01:46:23
Excellent. Anything where can people find
01:46:25
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01:46:29
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01:46:33
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01:46:36
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01:46:39
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01:46:42
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01:46:46
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01:46:49
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