On this episode we are joined by Osvaldo Maysonet of Triggerology. He is a certified firearm instructor and Second Amendment advocate. We discuss how to best exercise your Second Amendment rights in California as well as the proposed gun control legislation that President Biden is pushing.
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podcast. What's going on of the way?
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Thanks for tuning in to another episode of California
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underground. I have with me here tonight.
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Very excited, very pertinent episode as well.
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Do I hope I said that right. I am practicing my Spanish but
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we're for my wife who speak Spanish fluently, close enough.
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Ozzy. Has he said to make it easier?
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He's from trigger ology. He is a certified firearm
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instructor. We're going to be talking about
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everything Second Amendment tonight.
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There is no dispute about what we're going to be talking about.
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It's all Second Amendment here in California on the national
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stage. A lot going on.
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Like I said in the pre-show fighting, literally just got
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done with a big statement. National Dress outlining what he
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wants. To do.
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So there's a lot to dive into tonight.
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And the most important thing that I said is, if you have any
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questions, make sure you direct them at Ozzie.
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He can definitely help you out, clarify anything.
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It will be gained to all that as well.
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I have my co-host, Cynthia with me.
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We're all back in the saddle again, after a couple weeks of
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covid and all that stuff. But we're back in the saddle
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again. So Cynthia, how are you doing?
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I'm doing great. So awesome.
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So Ozzy, let's Jump Right In. How about you introduce
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yourself? Tell us what you do.
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Tell us what trigger ology is and we'll go from there.
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Yeah. First of all, thank you so much
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to both of you for having me on. I am a Firearms instructor.
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I like to call myself a second amendment instructor, matter of
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fact, because I like to involve people in Everything that it is
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the Second Amendment not just to you know, just the purifier
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arms. But everything that the second
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amendment is about, which is not just about Farms is about
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Freedom. So I operate in the larger Ellen
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Empire area, Los Angeles County, some of the dino cam, Riverside
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County, mainly I do a lot of trainings to first time gun
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owners, and to people who are looking, Looking at getting into
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firearm ownership, so, wow, over the last easily the last two
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years, the vast majority of the training I've been doing is just
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people who are brand spanking new to the Second Amendment
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Community, which is awesome. It's fantastic.
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And I am super, glad to take part in to welcoming people into
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the Second Amendment immunity. So, would you say that and I I
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say this anecdotally that more people have gotten into Firearms
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owning a firearm since the start of covid.
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I think maybe the pandemic kind of push people into figuring out
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if they need to defend themselves in case Society goes
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south or something. Yeah.
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Absolutely. But I will kick it back.
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Actually quite a few years back to 2015.
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Hmm. Okay. 2015 that election cycle.
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Hillary Clinton. Was that that she was going.
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A lot of people were in fears of, you know, very strong gun
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control and coming everybody. Everyone, you know, expected her
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to win. So there was a huge drive to
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become gun owners, purchase a AR-15s and and the like type of
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rifles. So it was back then and then all
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throughout since then. Absolutely gun shops have been
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busy and you see the same thing happen when biting got elected,
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but a lot of people kind of picked it up or there was more
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people introduced to it. It was kind of steady, but at
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that time it what happened was the mo Rush.
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Yeah, which was really interesting dynamic because
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obviously gun control. A lot of people whoever was
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already in the mindset of having a car on a farm, they already
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acquired it. So now Came the stock pot here.
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California happened, big time because of the latest gun
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controls that happened back. Then I want to say they kicked
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in. There were already talks about
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it 2018. 2019, establishing background checks for
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ammunition, every single time that you purchase a any amount
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of rounds. You had to go again and go more
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background checks so people are like screw it.
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I'm just going to go With every paycheck.
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Purchase as much ammunition as I can.
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Until there's definitely that, that Russian I remember.
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I don't know. It was like, you'd get an alert
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and if you weren't at the ammo shop, the minute it opened.
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Yeah. We're not getting nine
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millimeter that day was, that's how clothing.
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Yep. Yeah.
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Shops firearms, dealers, where people were, I will tell you in
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tune in the calendar day, new, which Firearms dealer got the
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Gold shipments of ammunition, which day of the week and then
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lines were outside before they open.
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That's why I was even bad for 12-gauge, shotgun shells.
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I remember is I would try and find 12 gauge.
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It was like, they were like that.
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We got plenty of 20 gauge and you're like, ha ha.
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That's, that's useless to me. But thank you.
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Yeah. Well, you wanted a bird shot or
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anything like that. You weren't fighting a defensive
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ammo for shotgun around that time.
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The Staples were in very, very high demand.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was it was definitely
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weird in 2020 and early 2021. Oh yeah.
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But I wanted a hop in, we'll get to the National stuff and
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everything that's been going on and we'll talk about kind of
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Biden's proposals and the left's proposals for, you know, the new
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round of gun control that always happens in the wake of a lot of
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these shootings. I wanted to talk first about
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because the name of this episode is exercising.
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Your second amendment rights in California, and a lot of people,
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I think just kind of Right off the fact that they can actually
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practice or exercise their second amendment rights here in
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California. And I've seen your post, you
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know, you even though you're not happy, I'm not particularly
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happy about the process of like, getting your carrying concealed.
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You still can exercise. Your second amount rights in
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California. Correct?
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Yes. Your kind of your kind of
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absolutely. So, the very first California,
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it's all about control K is all about gatekeeping.
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So, there are Many laws that have been put into place with
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the pretense of, you know, keeping kids, happy kids, you
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know, safe and family safe and what have you, so it a lot of
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the laws, the gun control laws here are just based on on police
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state on Nanny State. It's just, it is what it is.
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So the very first step that a Californian must do in order to
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become A Firearms owner is attained and FSC a California
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firearms. Safety certificate.
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The whether your choir that is through your typical Firearms
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dealer that they all have what is called a deer California
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Department of Justice certified Firearms instructor I am one and
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this is a person that the state has vetted to be able to provide
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the people with the firearm safety certificate test which is
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a current in its current state is a 30 question long test that
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if you believe it is 70%, if you get 70 percent, correct.
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Answers. Then there you go.
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You can receive the FSC and you can go and purchase your.
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The firearms that are available for purchase here in the state
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of California. So that's the very first step.
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Yeah. And you invention, I think at
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the tail end, that's important to clarify.
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Yeah, I know you got a, the firearms that are you are
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allowed to purchase or available.
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In California. Because if you look at the
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roster and every gun owner knows, there is a roster and
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there's a handgun roster, there's some handguns, I would
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love to purchase from a certain suppliers or from manufacturer.
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I can't, you know, it's not on the roster and one thing they
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always try to do is I don't know if this past but they were
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talking about they wanted. If you were going to add a new
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handgun to the roster, they were going to take to off.
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So eventually you keep adding one subtracting to talk about
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the roster a little bit and what that means.
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Sure. So this was ten plus years ago,
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the it's called the save handgun, act in California and
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it was a gun control that was established in, in a nutshell,
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it is designed to, you know, slowly but surely death by A
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Thousand Cuts just slowly but surely continue to drop handgun.
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After hang enough to hand gun and what that act did was it
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imposed. Some very stringent safety
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requirements. For handgun.
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Manufacturers, to be able to sell their handguns here in
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California, it all goes, along the ways of handguns are easily
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concealable. There is really you know
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manipulated by A Miners and stuff like that, so they put
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Provisions in. There were all the firearm has
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to be safety tested drop tested. So, when the firearm is dropped,
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it doesn't go off there. There were some, there are some
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stipulations in there. Were the firearm has to somehow
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by some magic voodoo technology that does not yet exist.
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Imprint, a serial number into the case.
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See every single time that the firearm is discharged, that
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technology does not exist and likely will never exist.
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Why several several reasons it is easily defeated if you want
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to put it somehow someway laser engravers, serial number into
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their firing pin of the handgun which is the part that strikes
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the primer. Is that back portion on the, on
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the round? You can easily file that off.
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So, there you go. There goes one of your fantastic
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gun controls safety measures that you place them and that's
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what is it? It's called micro stamping.
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Correct microstamping correct. That's one of the stipulations,
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which matter of fact that they there's another bill that's been
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introduced to somehow someway they They want to encourage the
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microstamping somehow someway to happen in that is a be 28:47.
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That is another microstamping bill that just that's being
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pushed in the legislature with. So it's something that they
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continue to do. They just pile on, you know,
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they somehow they believe that laws are just going to magically
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stop crime. So, What it does going back to
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the, hang on Ruster act. So what's been happening over
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since since the handgun? Rester Act was passed.
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Is that many many manufacturers? They say screw it.
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I'm just we're not going to continue paying California which
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I believe it is every single year they have to recertify the
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handguns that I on the roster so they can sell them here.
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So the vast majority of the handguns that we have been
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purchasing here in California. They are 10 plus year old.
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The models are all old. It's all old Generations, which
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is why the, you know, the Honda Civic of firearms, which is the
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Glock. The Glock gen threes.
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That's not was the last, we are past gen5.
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I believe we are a Gen 5 and there are more coming.
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That the rest of the free states can purchase and just like that.
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All the other manufacturers, the rest of the, what we call the
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free states in the Farms Community.
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Everyone who lives in those States, they can benefit from
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the increase, you know, technically technicality in the
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manufacturing of the firearms and increased, you know,
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technology used in the in the development of the Farms but we
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can all in the guise of being safe here in California.
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Oh, by the way, Law enforcement, can purchase anything and yeah.
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Yeah, for a time they want. Yeah, long clothing.
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Sell it to ya. If you go into any gun shop, you
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will see there's a section for law enforcement or they'll have
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to tags on them that law enforcement only can get and
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yeah my brother-in-law's girlfriend she's a sheriff's
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deputy so she can she benefits from that she can take full
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advantage of that but isn't it ironic that they put all these
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laws in place to kind of I mean, it's we know, the reason is not
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to help handgun safety or to make a better experience for
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handguns in California. It's obviously to try and chip
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away her rights. Meanwhile, the rest of the
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country is getting guns that are like you said better technology,
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probably safer. Like you mention one thing is so
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if we don't want them to be dropped and go off unexpectedly.
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Well, I don't think any gun. Pack surer wants their gun to be
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dropped and go off accidentally. So I think the technology would
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get better and safer and more reliable and being 10 years
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behind. What is current technology?
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Actually makes guns less safe in California and by the way, they
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will get sued, if they provide a defective product, if they
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manufacture a defective firearm, they will get sued and they do
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get sued. Which is a lie.
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That mr. Biden says a lot that the
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firearm industry is the only industry that this now get to
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that. That is an absolute and
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abhorrent line. It is kind of, you know, a lot
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of these things. They don't you can tell a lot of
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these gun laws are not written by people who have likely ever
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picked up a firearm in their life.
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Another example, moving on from the handgun, roster is one of my
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favorite bugaboos is The Flipper on most rifles.
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The plastic flipper that they make you put the fan on your
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egg. Yeah, the fan, The Flipper.
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I call it a Her. But it's a fan.
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Yeah that's got to talk about soccer.
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Well, that came about as a workaround from the assault
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weapons ban that was established here in California.
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Some years back, where the a are, not just the air, but any
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semi-automatic Centerfire rifle that could accept a A detachable
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magazine and be outfitted with a number of largely cosmetic, but
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but mostly also functional features such as a telescopic,
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buttstock, a foregrip a, if what's called a flash hider.
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But that goes in the very tip of the muzzle, which Flex, The
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Flash upon discharge, they named all those.
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Oh, and by the way, a pistol grip, they named all those
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features and in the typical semi-automatic Centerfire rifle.
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They named all those as evil, they said, that rifles with
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those features are incredibly deadly and accurate and thus
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they wanted to Tame the rifles with those features as evil and
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as and as assault weapons. And then there Comes The
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Incredible, you know, Farms Community.
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They want to make sure that still California is going to
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enjoy the Second Amendment rights and purchase certifiers,
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semi-automatic rifles. And they went ahead and came up
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with any number of devices to get around having to register.
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Your rifle as an assault weapon. So the reason why those fins are
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that's that's the preferred method of getting away with not
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having to register your firearm with the say California as an
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assault weapon. It's a they we call it a
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featureless rifle. Yeah, that's all that is.
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Yeah. And the funny thing is is when
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you if your custom building and AR can still get the pistol
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grip, which can go onto your rifle, and all it takes is a
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couple screws pulled out and you can flip them in and out.
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So if anybody really wanted to and they really want to use the
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pistol grip and not care about, they could, it's not that hard
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to do and absolutely, I find and I find that trying to shoot with
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that, Finn is The more I feel it's not as safe because I don't
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have a handle on the fire. All right.
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You have this right here like kind of if you can't see if
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you're listening on audio it's kind of like you have to Palm
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the grip. Yeah.
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You have to do this. When are you leaving your thumb
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over here? Yeah.
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Yeah. So it makes it real awkward when
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you're handling such a such a firearm as opposed to getting a
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strong grip on and holding it. So, so I'm so glad you brought
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that up because Does it say? It's a concept and a principle
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that I want to begin to drive a home with your audience?
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Anyone who's listening? The sound of our voice these
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laws. What they do is they put they
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place your right at a lower level from as compared to bad
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Deeds from bad people. It is they, which is completely
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and reverse of what so many Other policies do right
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politicians love to say. So if we can save at least one
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life, it will have been worth it.
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What but at also by the way almost in the same breath they
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say we don't want to take away your Second Amendment, right?
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We just want everyone to be as trained as possible and be able
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to shoot straight and shoot accurately.
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Well why in the heck are you making us?
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Not have accurate weapons. Yeah, you're giving the more
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weight to the bad Deeds that, you know, crooked individuals do
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with these with these. And not the millions of
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Americans who everyday exercise their Second Amendment, right?
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And nobody gets gets shot. That's not that, it's not
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disturbing. You guys shot.
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But they places, you know, under the criminal element and as an
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eye, right? And that's what I want people to
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get fired up about and that's what we need to change.
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So, I know California has like, one of the more stricter gun
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laws, like, what are some other states that like, that are also
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pretty strict because I'm curious about like the landscape
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of my country. Yeah, so it's your Coast, your
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Coast, your Uber, liberal states, New York, New Jersey,
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California Oregon. Washington is getting pretty bad
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and then outside of the state's proper, then you have the big
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cities, the big metropolitan cities that are also scooter
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skirting around. The Constitution and and wanting
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to create their own Municipal codes and stuff like that or in
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blatant disregard of the Constitution.
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And I'm assuming Texas has like, the best second amendment was
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like, is there other states that actually, no, believe it or not,
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one of the most notorious States for rights.
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Second Amendment. Rights are Vermont your
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Appalachian, State's Vermont, West Virginia, and the number of
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states who have passed constitutional carry laws and in
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the state where they, you know, pre-empting the federal
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government and they're like, nope are we are going to
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recognize the Second Amendment of the Constitution as the law
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of the land and federal government?
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Oh, Tana. I mean, Arizona, pass,
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constitutional carry. A number of other.
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We know we're looking at Florida, very closely.
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The governor has stated that he is willing to sign a law
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constituent, constitutional carry loss and as he hits the
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his desk, sadly is hit some snags.
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Oh, Georgia was the last one to become constitutional carry
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state, but like I said, it's 25 we're up to 25.
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So once we hit that 26th, we can claim There's a majority of
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states or Hawaii is horrible for.
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I am. That makes sense for a lot of
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bad things about Hawaii. Yep.
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So in terms of, I want to get to another California subject and
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then we'll get to the National platform of what's going on.
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We're we're kind of complaining about everything that's wrong
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with the gun rights here. Let's look at the flip side in
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terms of what can you do in California.
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Nia. What are rights that you can
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exercise? Like we already brought up in
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counties like San Diego. You can still get your carrying
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concealed. There are plenty of there's more
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than 50 counties in California. So there's it's there's a wide
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diversity on how people approach it county by county.
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Uh-huh. It is certainly, is the sheriff.
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In each county is what we call the Constitutional officer in
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that county. And the law and incur for Nia
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the which by the way, I need to make sure I bring this in, I
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bring this in into the conversation.
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California does not have a version of the second amendment
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in the state constitution, many other states.
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Do many other states in the constitution of this state, they
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have a version of the Bill of Rights including the Second
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Amendment. California decided to skip,
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right over the Second Amendment. Not as one thing that we always
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Californians can do, can do is reach out to our legislators,
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our assembly members and our Senators and demand that they
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pass. A bill recognizing the Second
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Amendment into the constitution of the State of California.
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Because right now the only way that Firearms are mentioned in
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our laws in this state are in the penal Code and literally by
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its name in the penal code it is punitive.
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It is - it is. If you don't if you don't handle
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your Firearms like this, your we're gonna do this to you that
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type of thing. So what you can do as
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exercising, you're not only your second amendment rights but your
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first amendment rights to redress of grievances.
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With your legislators is telling them.
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Hey, these laws right here, these laws are getting in my
00:26:42
way. Yeah, the CCW one for a great
00:26:49
example. I don't know if you saw the
00:26:52
chronicling I did in my Instagram.
00:26:55
Yeah, apply do apply. It is a daunting task depending
00:27:00
on what county you're in, like your larger and liberal counties
00:27:06
that. They are certainly placing more
00:27:09
hurdles than than you know and Hoops to jump through rather
00:27:14
than helping you get closer to your to the exercise of your
00:27:20
rights. But you can certainly apply to
00:27:23
your CCW. You've already become a gun
00:27:26
owner. By the way, you do not have to
00:27:28
already be a gun owner to apply for CCW just to make everyone
00:27:34
aware about that. You can.
00:27:36
Get that application in and then cuz it's going to be a few
00:27:40
months. And then once you have gone
00:27:45
through the process and and the good cause I don't know if you
00:27:49
want to talk about that. Then you go ahead and you place
00:27:56
the different firearms that you want to have in your carry
00:27:59
permit. Yeah, there's plenty of time and
00:28:03
I know I talked a lot. Yeah I think you did I think
00:28:06
that's there is still ways to exercise.
00:28:09
Your second amendment rights here.
00:28:11
It's not as I mean I think people like to look at the
00:28:16
negatives but I think one thing you can do in my personal
00:28:21
opinion if you want to protect the Second Amendment and you
00:28:24
want to protect your right to a firearm is just actually just
00:28:28
exercise it like even It may be limited here in California.
00:28:34
Still go out and exercise exercise, the hell out of it,
00:28:38
you know, that's why I buy the guns, you want to buy, you know,
00:28:43
train with them, learn how to store them, how to take care of
00:28:48
them, go to selfridges, go to ranges, I met so many people who
00:28:55
are like, I hated guns and then you hack into a range and then
00:28:59
they come out and they go, I love that.
00:29:01
That was so amazing that much fun.
00:29:03
So I'm sorry. Exercise.
00:29:05
It, I'm so glad you bring that up because the, the other thing
00:29:08
as you were listing, the these things was and talk about it
00:29:13
proudly to. Yeah, don't be like, oh yeah,
00:29:16
I'm I on Iona actually 18? No.
00:29:21
No, he talked about a proudly. You're not doing anything wrong.
00:29:25
If you're not someone who is utilizing that to because they
00:29:28
are defensive tools, okay? They're not just for hunting.
00:29:32
The Second Amendment is not just for hunting and it's not for
00:29:35
shooting Place. Yeah.
00:29:37
It is to keep your freedom talk about a probably because you're
00:29:41
an American just because you are here in California.
00:29:44
And for some reason, the government here in the state of
00:29:46
California has somehow, someway believes that they are no longer
00:29:50
part of the union and they treat people in California as see if
00:29:55
they are subjects, not citizens, no began, exercising, your
00:30:00
second amendment. Rewrites proudly.
00:30:03
If you want to wear t-shirts every now and then wear them
00:30:07
proudly second amendment that it doesn't have to be you know,
00:30:10
anything grow. So grotesque, right?
00:30:13
It can just be say to a no I I am the militia, which is small
00:30:21
shout out to mr. Colleano, our who sells those
00:30:23
that type of sheet t-shirt or whatever you just have
00:30:27
conversations with neighbors, family, friends, co-workers, And
00:30:33
it doesn't mean that you are that you're going to become that
00:30:37
gonna because that's how we I mean we get told we get called a
00:30:42
lot of things. Yeah.
00:30:45
And I think there is that stigma and in California, there's
00:30:49
definitely a stigma especially if you live in any of the
00:30:51
coastal cities maybe not San Diego as much.
00:30:54
I feel like there's San Diego is still pretty favorable to the
00:30:59
Second Amendment. The military.
00:31:02
Yeah, the military is a big part of that, but if you go places
00:31:05
like LA or San Francisco, it's like, oh my God, you have a gun
00:31:09
like that's that's scary. But they're, you know,
00:31:12
California is a big, big state. So go out and enjoy it and like,
00:31:17
go out and actually exercise and the more people who are not
00:31:20
afraid to exercise it, and talk about it and show people like,
00:31:25
hey, there's a lot of us out here and we're a big block of
00:31:28
odors out here. Just changed politicians Minds
00:31:33
to like back off of it a little bit and it comes down to local
00:31:38
Politics as well. Like I always say I'm a broken
00:31:40
record, your Sheriff has a big part of it.
00:31:43
Always make sure, you know who you're who's going to be
00:31:46
running, the sheriff's department, you know, make sure
00:31:49
yours County Supervisors like that.
00:31:51
They have a big influence on the county and what you can do in
00:31:54
the county. So I assume, you know, sold a
00:31:58
vote on funding and defunding the police.
00:32:01
Correct. Yeah, so I want to encourage
00:32:03
everyone. I've been telling my students
00:32:06
this for a while. I want to encourage everyone to
00:32:09
go and seek out whoever seeking offense, and whoever's actively
00:32:13
sitting in that office and ask them.
00:32:16
What are you plans to getting me closer to my rights?
00:32:19
What are your plans for getting me closer to my freedom?
00:32:21
I haven't, I haven't heard you talk about freedom for a while
00:32:24
or ever. Can you please tell me some of
00:32:30
the things that that you will that you would engage in to get
00:32:35
me closer to my rights because, and I'ma give you, I'm a bring
00:32:39
it back to the roster, okay? I've had many students like
00:32:45
guys, I've had many students that as they are.
00:32:50
They'll send me screenshots at through Instagram or corn or in
00:32:55
text message. Oh, my he'll get this gun is so
00:32:58
bad. No, like yeah, it's awesome but
00:33:02
you're not a cop. So you can't buy.
00:33:06
Or I was how you were going to say something.
00:33:10
No, I'm just saying. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
00:33:12
Yeah, and then our then, come the other students.
00:33:16
Like one of my last students that it was, she's a very nice
00:33:23
lady on her 60s grandmother. She wants to because she owns a
00:33:31
firearm, right? But her own try, first firearm
00:33:34
But it is a type of pistol, it's little and Q and, and whatever.
00:33:40
And she thought that I'd be perfect, but she can't even rag
00:33:43
it. Yes, struggles.
00:33:45
Right? And I told her.
00:33:47
Oh, guess what? This is the, it was a Smith &
00:33:49
Wesson M&P Shield. Okay?
00:33:51
Is that really tiny one? A lot of the yeah.
00:33:54
You've probably seen it and probably, so my wife has one so,
00:33:58
okay. So it's still a very old model,
00:34:03
okay. Smith & Wesson came up with an
00:34:07
updated version. That is easier to rack is called
00:34:12
Smith & Wesson, M&P Shield. Easy for easy.
00:34:16
But wrecking. And I told, and I told her.
00:34:20
Yeah, you know what, they made this updated version of this
00:34:23
one's called the easy and it's for people like you who have
00:34:26
trouble racking the site. Oh wow.
00:34:30
Can I get it? I said, no, I'm sorry.
00:34:32
The gun control and California. Says that it is not safe for
00:34:36
you. You can't get it even though it
00:34:39
is better for, even though it is baby better for you and you
00:34:43
would be safer. And you'd be able to protect
00:34:45
yourself, even better than with this one they have.
00:34:47
And so she got fired up and that's what I like to do.
00:34:51
And you know, and talk about the actual real-life consequences
00:34:57
that gun control has on the good people.
00:35:01
Yeah, the vast majority if not all gun.
00:35:04
Los do nothing to help you. They do not they hurt you.
00:35:12
And I think people don't realize when they, you know, people who
00:35:17
are anti-gun are, they don't own guns, they vote for these
00:35:20
measures and they say oh this is fine.
00:35:22
I'm all for this. And that's a and the other
00:35:24
thing. One of my favorite stories, I'm
00:35:26
sure I've said it, I won't live or something.
00:35:30
It was right before the pandemic and a man walks and we were
00:35:34
actually at the range we just gotten done practicing.
00:35:37
We're about to check out and we were looking at some other guns.
00:35:41
And man walks in and this was days before the big shutdown
00:35:45
that the 15 15 days to flatten the curve.
00:35:49
Okay. Guy walks in and he looks at the
00:35:53
counter guy says, hey, how can I help you?
00:35:56
He was hired like a handgun, guy behind the counter goes.
00:36:00
Okay, well, you know what kind you know what caliber, you know
00:36:03
what manufacturer? I just want a handgun.
00:36:08
Okay. Well, do you want to give me a
00:36:09
little like idea of what you're looking for?
00:36:11
What are you going to use it for?
00:36:12
Is it? I don't know.
00:36:14
I just need a handgun and I need it now and the guys, it's okay.
00:36:19
Well I'm gonna tell you right now, you're not walking out of
00:36:21
the store with a hand gun right now and the guy got he kind of
00:36:26
was shocked like what what do you mean I can't walk out of the
00:36:29
store right now. Well you have to go through an
00:36:32
application of go through background check if to go
00:36:34
through a 10-day waiting period. So I think there's a lot of
00:36:36
those laws out there that people Won't know until they come
00:36:39
face-to-face with them. That they go.
00:36:43
Oh, okay. I'm not really sure if this
00:36:46
makes sense in the real world. When I want to exercise, my
00:36:49
second amendment rights. And the more people get engaged
00:36:53
with it, they actually learn more about it and get like
00:36:57
you're saying, fire it up and that was the tender and that was
00:37:01
the effect of the 10-day waiting period gun control, that was
00:37:06
established here along. The time ago, and just for
00:37:10
historic background, it was for to help avoid Crimes of Passion.
00:37:17
Not just Crimes of Passion, but also try to help stem the wave
00:37:23
of suicide by hanging on. Now, on the flip side of that, I
00:37:30
look, I've had students that have been in that type of
00:37:33
situation where I have one student that she Over the course
00:37:39
of what it was two nights. Some probably a crackhead was
00:37:45
trying to break into her home, as she was home alone for two
00:37:49
nights in a row. First night that I happened, she
00:37:52
was on the phone when I want one.
00:37:54
I want one was telling her, I'm sorry, we can't get there and
00:37:59
she didn't have a fire. Yeah.
00:38:01
Okay, so I thought she told me I was scared.
00:38:06
You know, literally Scared for my life.
00:38:09
And they add. I think she told me something to
00:38:14
the effect of, dude, was trying to break into her house for
00:38:16
like, over an hour close to an hour.
00:38:19
Once finally, the cops arrived, they give him a ride to wherever
00:38:23
it is that they give him a ride. And because of the outstanding
00:38:26
laws that we have here in the state of California, they let
00:38:30
him go and do comes right back next day.
00:38:34
Next evening, try to break break into her home home again.
00:38:37
Guess what? She had already gone to a
00:38:42
Firearms dealer, but guess what? There's tape 10-day waiting
00:38:46
period. No she is.
00:38:49
There you go gun control again. In may have good intentions, but
00:38:53
it does end up hurting potentially hurting bad people.
00:38:58
And so, what do we give more weight to, right?
00:39:02
People who want to be able to protect themselves, wherever
00:39:05
they are at whether they're at home or outside the Home or do
00:39:09
we get more weight to the bad things that happen you know with
00:39:12
these with these tools? Yeah, it's weird.
00:39:19
It's a weird kind of section of American society where somebody
00:39:26
does something illegal that they're not supposed to do, and
00:39:31
the people who end up paying for it, Are those who abide by the
00:39:36
law II? Can't think of any other area of
00:39:39
American society? Where, you know, if somebody
00:39:42
does something wrong, the rest of people who follow the rules
00:39:47
end up having to pay and deprived of their rights because
00:39:51
somebody else it's kind of like when you're in like Elementary
00:39:53
School and the teachers, like what we're not going to go
00:39:56
outside for recess until you're all good.
00:39:58
Is because there's always one kid who's a troublemaker.
00:40:01
I won't put their head down and be quiet or something like that.
00:40:03
So everybody else The pay one cared.
00:40:06
Yep. So I remember, you know, when my
00:40:10
kids were little, the most upsetting days were one day
00:40:14
said, we didn't get recess because of, you know, this one
00:40:18
was behaving and they punished, everybody else.
00:40:22
Those were the most upsetting days that they had, oh, we have,
00:40:26
is that a question something file?
00:40:28
No, Randy, Randy Bell. Just commented, I had to 17 year
00:40:31
old males break in on a starry night when I was home alone.
00:40:34
They kept trying to get in my room.
00:40:36
It was terrifying. I didn't have a gun yet at that
00:40:38
time. Yeah.
00:40:41
Kind of off your story. You just said.
00:40:43
And anybody who has any questions for Ozzy or comments
00:40:47
far away. That's the point of this
00:40:48
conversation. As if you know what, someone
00:40:50
asked him something had flash. I didn't catch it in the I think
00:40:54
I seen Christy Turtle, that's somebody.
00:40:57
I know. She's says something, I know
00:40:58
what she said, but I think. Oh, Chris people said a message
00:41:02
from dick Heller in the Heller Foundation.
00:41:04
Just The pass along the message. We're proud of y'all.
00:41:06
Keep fighting right now. Like u.s. u.s. u.s. so dick
00:41:11
Heller in the Heller foundation. So for those of you who may not
00:41:15
be familiar, who dick Heller is. The biggest Second Amendment
00:41:22
decision in our lifetime, which is however, versus the see mr.
00:41:29
Dick, Heller is still very much engaged in the Second Amendment
00:41:33
and he created the Heather Foundation to continue to fight
00:41:37
the good fight to restore second amendment rights.
00:41:40
Oh, that word. Remember, I told you I want to
00:41:43
talk about. Definitions.
00:41:45
Yeah, restore. We're restoring.
00:41:50
Second amendment rights. Not expanding.
00:41:53
Watch out the so many different words that are being thrown out
00:41:56
right now. And and this may be a good segue
00:42:00
for National conversation. Watch the words that are
00:42:04
Starting to be used now. We're restoring second amendment
00:42:09
rights that we we have an impending decision from the
00:42:15
Supreme Court of the United States in a really large case.
00:42:18
That's about concealed carry. That is the case New York State
00:42:22
and rifle pistol Rifle and Pistol Association versus Bruin
00:42:27
and that is and that is talking about the constitutionality of
00:42:33
May issue concealed carry Now, that's huge and that's coming,
00:42:40
but the narrative. It's that's already being said
00:42:42
by mainstream Legacy corporate media is that the Supreme Court
00:42:48
is poised to expand Second Amendment, right?
00:42:53
What the Supreme Court is poised to do, is to restore second
00:42:58
amendment rights? Big difference.
00:43:01
Yeah, that's important to talk about with that language because
00:43:04
you have to look at it as and we're going to we're going to
00:43:08
talk about Biden and a couple minutes.
00:43:09
I promise we're going to get to buy and there's a lot to talk
00:43:11
about told you. This was going to be a
00:43:13
jam-packed episode it's I got all night before I got on that.
00:43:18
We got time I'm not going anywhere.
00:43:22
So we got time but you're right. It is important to talk about
00:43:26
the language of how we speak about the Second Amendment.
00:43:29
Because, you know, President Biden himself said all that.
00:43:33
The Second Amendment is not absolute.
00:43:37
Anybody who knows anything about the Bill of Rights?
00:43:40
And why I was created my law review?
00:43:42
No, was actually all about the second amendment in the
00:43:46
historical context of where the Second Amendment came from.
00:43:50
It is not like you said, it is not the historical context of
00:43:54
someone to be able to own a musket.
00:43:55
It's only for muskets. I saw that on Twitter.
00:43:58
I said a oh, it's only For muskets.
00:44:00
Yeah. Forgot that they were all types
00:44:02
of guns at that time, available to revolutionary Army, but it's
00:44:07
all about after diameter. Yeah, that's one of the dumbest
00:44:10
arguments, but it's about protecting yourself and in the
00:44:14
Declaration of Independence, its life, liberty, and the pursuit
00:44:17
of happiness. Yes, life, liberty.
00:44:18
And pursuit of happiness have to all be protected by something
00:44:21
and then can't protect yourself without some sort of weapon or
00:44:25
firearm to protect your life and I call them tools, and I call
00:44:31
them tools defense samples, their defensive tools, and
00:44:34
that's what they recognized in the second amendment in the
00:44:37
historical context. Yes, where it comes from.
00:44:40
Yeah, it's not just muskets and Momo in the militia, it's about
00:44:44
protecting your life and your Liberty, to enjoy your life, and
00:44:49
not have somebody else come and take it away from you, those
00:44:53
commas, and in the body of the Second Amendment those commas.
00:44:59
I have a purpose and then and are very important and, and I'm
00:45:03
so glad that you bring up the Declaration of Independence
00:45:06
because the Constitution and the Declaration of independent, the
00:45:10
independence should be read together Constitution, right?
00:45:15
After you read the sign, the Declaration of Independence
00:45:18
because you receive a lot of context.
00:45:20
And if I could, if I could charge your audience with doing
00:45:24
something right after this is just go ahead and read that baby
00:45:28
again. Read those Babies.
00:45:29
Again, read that Declaration of Independence because it gives
00:45:32
you that that context of the Tyranny that the colonists has
00:45:38
just, you know, freed themselves from through force with the
00:45:44
tools that were necessary for that fight.
00:45:46
Okay. And they and they are like we
00:45:49
need to put this. We need to write this right here
00:45:52
on this document right now that what we did and we need to
00:45:56
charge the government. This government that we are are
00:45:59
creating with not infringing. On this very important, right
00:46:04
now, the second of my, my people does not Grant you rights.
00:46:11
It merely it and numerator. It guarantees it and it is a
00:46:16
charge to the government. It's literally pointing the
00:46:20
finger at the government and saying, shall not be infringed.
00:46:26
Yeah, these are the right, so easier.
00:46:27
Our directive. Yes, you are born with as part
00:46:30
of Nature and you as the government have to lay off all
00:46:34
of these rights. And that's one of the biggest
00:46:37
issues with the left-right dichotomy over.
00:46:40
The Second Amendment, is that people believe you're right.
00:46:44
To a firearm is granted, granted by the government.
00:46:47
Now, like, oh, the government allows you to have these
00:46:51
Firearms. When every ality, it's no know
00:46:54
where it's Into this point, we're allowing the government to
00:46:58
infringe on this, right? So long.
00:47:02
So the government should be thankful.
00:47:03
There were allowing them to, especially in California.
00:47:06
We should be able, they should be thankful, they're allowed to
00:47:08
infringe on it. So much last thing about
00:47:12
California, I want to discuss was Newsome.
00:47:16
Did propose that he wants to roll out.
00:47:19
The biggest gun buyback program in the action.
00:47:23
Isn't that amazing? Yeah, yeah.
00:47:25
And I was reading an article from the Federalist today about
00:47:29
how I mean, unless it's a mandatory gun buyback, which
00:47:33
hey, cheers to that. Cheers to that Newsome.
00:47:37
Yeah, try that. Noah.
00:47:57
Okay, but yeah, he wants to roll out.
00:48:01
The biggest gun buyback in the nation and the Federalists has a
00:48:04
good are, I'll put it in the show notes for people to look
00:48:06
up, but he talks about how most voluntary gun, buyback programs
00:48:13
fail. Just because of how the free
00:48:15
market works like most times when they do a gun buyback
00:48:19
program. Most Sheriff, say they get guns
00:48:23
that are out of commission. That are antiques that they
00:48:27
don't want anymore. Nobody, who is a active gun
00:48:31
owner is going, huh? Remember that rifle?
00:48:35
I spent two thousand dollars on brightening myself.
00:48:39
I'll trade it in, for, $300 to the sheriff.
00:48:42
That sounds like a good deal, nobody's doing that.
00:48:45
I can't even tell you how frustrating it is.
00:48:49
And any time that I come across a post like that and I think
00:48:53
Ellie County Sheriff's did one not too long ago. and you can't
00:48:56
help but to notice and somebody like me, you're, you know, that
00:49:00
they stick out like sore thumbs, all I gotta do is just a cursory
00:49:03
look out there because they love to do their pictures and I can
00:49:08
see that it's all just really old, you know, broken rifles,
00:49:14
you know, bolt action that were my granddaddy and it's been in a
00:49:18
garage in the corner of the garage just collecting dust and
00:49:21
dirt and rust and it's not serviceable you can Well, that
00:49:25
it is not a firearm that's actively being used in the
00:49:29
commission of crimes. And by the way, Tell me what
00:49:34
criminal okay your everyday crook is going to turn in the
00:49:40
firearm which they are using to follow home.
00:49:43
Someone day that they watch shopping and Rodeo Drive and
00:49:47
they follow him home to the hills and they use that firearm
00:49:51
to, you know, you know, intimidate that person.
00:49:54
And then they go back home with 10 grand worth of stuff.
00:49:58
Tell me what criminal is going to give up that firearm.
00:50:02
That's going to that's been given them.
00:50:04
A huge return on investment for what a hundred dollar gift card
00:50:09
to Walmart so they can go buy cheap jeans.
00:50:13
Yeah that one's stop it. Most criminals are not doing any
00:50:17
criminals not really doing that. No, I was also reading this
00:50:21
article, a great point, which is when they have a voluntary Khan
00:50:25
by back, I think this was in Tucson.
00:50:29
They were saying a few hundred feet away gun.
00:50:32
Set up tables and offered cash for any guns, in, good enough
00:50:34
condition to resell. And they were paying more money,
00:50:38
then the sheriff, because they knew if they were in working
00:50:42
condition to resell, they would say, okay, if the sheriff's
00:50:47
offering $200 for your old, 9-millimeter pistol, great will
00:50:52
give you 250. And we can resell it for 300 or
00:50:56
350 or what will clean it up and get it ready and sell it back,
00:51:00
out the door. So, the free market has already
00:51:03
taken care of that issue. It could even be a relic.
00:51:06
It could be, it could even be actually a valuable, you know,
00:51:10
farm that could be restored and it's, you know, a high value
00:51:13
item. It could even be that.
00:51:14
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. So it's another one of the
00:51:19
brilliant ideas of California, so I'm sure this will flop on
00:51:23
its face and ha ha. I don't know what else he wants
00:51:26
to do, but not not, not after having wasted valuable.
00:51:32
Taxpayer dollars, right? That yeah, money.
00:51:35
That's being taken out of our pocket with a proverbial gun.
00:51:40
Because guess what? What does the state do to people
00:51:44
who don't pay their taxes? They send someone with guns.
00:51:48
Yeah. They send someone to Witnesses
00:51:51
said, hey, you haven't paid your taxes, what's up?
00:51:54
Yeah, we're about to put a lien on your house.
00:51:56
We're about to put a lien on your business, until you pay
00:51:58
your taxes and if not, we throw you in jail.
00:52:01
Yeah, that's what they do. So it's a slap in the face to
00:52:04
everyone who actually pays taxes, who works for their money
00:52:08
that this dude is not go ahead up, and, you know, and the
00:52:12
governor's office, he thinks that he can use our tax dollars.
00:52:17
Dollars as he pleases like that, I shouldn't be that way.
00:52:21
So I want to Pivot now to National politics.
00:52:25
Sure there's a lot going on. If you've been paying attention
00:52:29
to any news, I'm sure it's hard to avoid what's been going on in
00:52:31
the national news. It's just that it's, you know,
00:52:35
the tragedies that have been happening and biting came out
00:52:40
and had a national address, literally not more than an hour
00:52:43
before we were going to hop on the show and I message you and
00:52:45
said, oh man, this is This is going to give us more food for
00:52:48
your father. I was going to play the video of
00:52:52
him talking about how he got his calibers completely wrong.
00:52:56
Oh yeah, I can play that many. Do you want me to pull that up?
00:53:01
Yeah, okay, okay, give me one second.
00:53:05
Yeah, amongst yourselves for a second.
00:53:07
Yeah. Well I I'm asking you because
00:53:10
whoever does not see these videos and hear the words with
00:53:14
their own eyes, you can't get it from me.
00:53:17
Media because mainstream media will sweep it under the under
00:53:20
the rug as much as possible. So you have to hear the nonsense
00:53:24
with your own ears and watch it with your own two eyes.
00:53:28
So nobody can tell you don't believe Your Lying Eyes and
00:53:31
they'll believe you're, you know, like you're so please.
00:53:34
Go ahead. Yeah.
00:53:35
This was a video. I saw the other day and this was
00:53:38
Biden talking about and I apologized already for the the
00:53:42
audio because he's in front of the Marine One helicopter.
00:53:45
Yeah. But he's Talking about.
00:53:47
Rational the title is biting no. Rational basis for purchasing,
00:53:53
high-caliber weapons a couple minutes long so yeah, just hop
00:53:56
right into such a gem. Please go ahead.
00:54:12
What first daughter is doing here is obviously what rational
00:54:17
gun laws should be entering a period when I was a Senator.
00:54:22
And if that's great will join us.
00:54:24
Talk to many more. People would be shocked if the
00:54:26
death rate was not certain of how don't have to be yours.
00:54:31
Whatever. The largest common house.
00:54:36
I asked him, I said, Why shouldn't every job if you have
00:54:42
20 years ago? I said, why would you show me a
00:54:53
caliber forced the lodging along?
00:54:56
We can probably get it out. May be able to live longer
00:55:01
divorce laws who want out of the body.
00:55:05
So if you couldn't catch that, I'll repeat it.
00:55:08
He said a 22 will get lodged in your lung while a 9-millimeter
00:55:15
Well below the long out of your body and Ozzy is if you can't
00:55:19
say you showing the different calibers.
00:55:23
So our if you're looking at it on the screen he's holding of
00:55:26
that's the 22. Yep.
00:55:28
Correct 22LR. Yep.
00:55:32
And then the other one is the 9 mil.
00:55:36
So you can see the difference. Is what he says that glows.
00:55:44
Lungs that everybody body. So he wants you to use 2012 art
00:55:52
for yourself to death Okay, okay.
00:56:01
Incredible. You actually could by cannons.
00:56:28
Yes. Yes.
00:56:28
We're actually for sale to civilians I could win the Second
00:56:31
Amendment. First came out, you could buy
00:56:32
cannons. There was really no restrictions
00:56:34
on anything you could buy back. Then you could fire worship.
00:56:39
Yeah you could buy a lot of things back then you could buy a
00:56:41
lot of military weapons back in the day.
00:56:44
When our young fledgling country was because o because they
00:56:48
didn't really have a powerful Army.
00:56:50
So they figured let the suit is ancillary be armed to the teeth.
00:56:54
Why not best way to defend ourselves, especially threats
00:56:59
from the West, you know? British Empire was still out
00:57:01
there out there on the frontier, but that it's always the same
00:57:07
arguments. It's always, well, you can't buy
00:57:10
a cannon. Well, yet now today you can't
00:57:13
buy a cannon but it didn't mean back then, you couldn't buy a
00:57:16
cannon and he always likes to talk about hunting.
00:57:18
He loves The Haunting line about.
00:57:20
Yeah. This is all about, I don't know.
00:57:23
What, why do you need this for hunting, but that's not what the
00:57:26
second amendment was about, bro. No one.
00:57:27
No one said it was about hunting and it's getting Does he keep a
00:57:31
magic? He keeps imagining you wearing
00:57:34
Kevlar. Rest, stop.
00:57:36
This is the same guy who also said, as a proud shotgun owner.
00:57:42
He told his wife Jill. If you ever hear any danger on
00:57:47
our huge Delaware, a state that's run out to the balcony.
00:57:52
Load that baby up and fired two warning shots and beers, which
00:57:56
is actually a crime to fire warning shots.
00:58:01
So don't, you know, don't go out there, don't do warning shots.
00:58:07
Contrary to what President Biden says, don't do warning shots in
00:58:11
most in Most states. I'm hearing a feedback.
00:58:15
I you guys, I don't hear anything.
00:58:19
Yeah. and maybe I think it started once you've placed that
00:58:28
That be your screen screen. Okay, well then we'll it's
00:58:32
finish out the video and then we'll check that out.
00:58:38
And those who are saying anymore, but there was a while,
00:58:42
there were people were saying that, you know, he should have
00:58:46
Liberty is water with the blood of patriots.
00:58:48
And what we have to do is that it will take on the government
00:58:51
on the lawn of the due day. We can up to feed, you know, you
00:58:55
need a hug. All right for Congress and will
00:59:16
pop off the screen boy. Yeah, I mean the same old liable
00:59:22
if that doesn't sound like they're saying the quiet part
00:59:25
out loud. When it says wow.
00:59:29
I mean, if you want to take on the government again, Ian I-15,
00:59:34
it's like so you're challenging, the people who have the guns, if
00:59:38
they want to take on the government, um, F-15 correct.
00:59:42
Is that what I'm hearing? Am, I crazy?
00:59:45
Yeah, it said, in other words that and and my line of work, we
00:59:52
caught it right away. Said another words, you are
00:59:55
saying that you are willing To use that type of Weaponry on the
01:00:03
citizen citizenry that is that what you're really saying?
01:00:08
Because mr. Eric saw well said something to
01:00:11
that effect, and then and brought it bringing up their
01:00:14
nuclear weapons and are you really saying that?
01:00:19
Is that why you're really saying?
01:00:21
So we got a challenge, we got a challenge them, we got a
01:00:24
challenge then and and actually push back and Make them.
01:00:29
Are you able to restate this? Say this statement again and
01:00:35
really are you really meaning that?
01:00:40
And if you are, that's a prop. Then we've got a really big
01:00:43
problem. Well, it's like Eric's wall,
01:00:45
well, once tweeted, you know, are you going to take a?
01:00:48
We have nukes. So you're willing to Nuke your
01:00:53
own citizens ring. That's what you're saying.
01:00:56
And that's, he was running for the highest.
01:00:58
Post office on the land. Yeah.
01:00:59
When he was running for president, that should have
01:01:01
terrified. Everybody that thought crossed
01:01:03
your mind of shredded. Why would you, why would you
01:01:06
challenge the state? We can just nuke you into
01:01:08
Oblivion and another definition everybody.
01:01:11
Another definition, I want to make sure to make people aware
01:01:15
today. They are about to debut, sit in
01:01:19
the past, they are about a use law-abiding, citizen, that's the
01:01:22
term Law Abiding Citizen, which a lot of people say with pride,
01:01:26
there are about to say against They're about a use that against
01:01:29
has Eric swallow. Brought it up when he was
01:01:32
running us as president when he said that.
01:01:35
If we pass legislations, I believe that most American
01:01:39
citizens are law-abiding, citizens.
01:01:40
And if we pass legislation that says that you are to turning
01:01:44
your AR-15s, and I believe that they will turn in their fifties.
01:01:49
He said that. And you just watch.
01:01:51
They're gonna, they're gonna recycle that baby up again.
01:01:55
Well, then it's your own benefits.
01:01:57
They're doing is in the typical. I mean, remember he was the guy.
01:02:01
The use of the great unifier when he got elected on the great
01:02:04
Ring of Fire and slowly moving the country.
01:02:08
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
01:02:09
Lots of feeling going on already only two years in, but you can
01:02:13
see that the pattern is always demonize and villainize those
01:02:18
who disagree with my agenda and they're going to paint people
01:02:22
who don't agree with them and he's Already blaming Republicans
01:02:26
for holding up any sort of gun control legislation and he's,
01:02:30
you know, he says any Law Abiding Citizen would do this,
01:02:33
they turn into their AR-15. So this is this kind of dialogue
01:02:39
coming out of the White House that basically says, if you're
01:02:42
not on board with us, you're the bad guy more, the domestic
01:02:47
terrorists that we really have to be watching out for.
01:02:50
And that's the that's the power of language that you and we were
01:02:53
just talking about a couple minutes.
01:02:54
It's ago. Huge, yeah, here's exactly
01:02:56
right. And the next one that they just
01:03:00
adopted, just this week is gun, safety.
01:03:03
They no longer want to use gun. Could the term gun control?
01:03:07
It's too toxic. So watch.
01:03:11
They're going that they have already pivoting.
01:03:13
Most of the bigger names, pushing gun, control, their
01:03:18
already pivoted to using the term gun safety.
01:03:21
So whenever you hear gun safety, it's gun control.
01:03:25
And it's not keeping you safe. No, as we've already discussed,
01:03:29
because a lot of these gun control laws, don't get you the
01:03:31
best gun and they don't get you, the best access to firearms that
01:03:35
are the safest, when it correct gun, safety.
01:03:38
Correct. We have.
01:03:39
We've had as long as we've been a country, we've had this one
01:03:43
law that says that you can't murder Yet, it still happens.
01:03:50
Yeah. With many different tools.
01:03:53
Yeah. They'll do figure it out.
01:03:54
One way or another question for you.
01:03:57
This might be a dumb guy. There's no such thing as a dumb
01:03:59
question, but when Biden says assault weapon, ban, what is an
01:04:04
assault weapon? That's a nice.
01:04:06
Yeah, I'm so glad you bring it up and and I did talk about it.
01:04:12
Referring to the assault weapon ban that we have in California
01:04:15
but it is largely. Oh, by the way, You to throw in
01:04:18
one more thing. I'm so glad that we have this
01:04:20
questioning. It is largely talking about just
01:04:26
cosmetic features and some. Yes, functional features of the
01:04:32
semi-automatic Centerfire rifle and that is a pistol grip.
01:04:38
A pistol grip is evil, a collapsible or folding stock
01:04:44
that table. Because it makes the gun to just
01:04:47
just to a Accurate to more lethal forward, pistol grip.
01:04:52
So you have your back pistol grip, where you're typically
01:04:55
holding the gun and I fold forward, pistol grip.
01:04:57
So it gives you even more. It gives you, you know, a good
01:05:02
solid, three points of contact. So again, because you have your
01:05:08
butt stock right here, usually, you have your pistol grip.
01:05:11
You have a foregrip, so it gives you a fantastic and very stable
01:05:15
framework for you to work with that defensive tool.
01:05:18
That's evil, Flash hiders, or a compensator up in the front
01:05:24
that's evil. So they want, they want all
01:05:26
those things, the The Flash header and the compensator
01:05:28
typically that what that item in the center.
01:05:32
Fire said. Mm, semi-automatic rifle that
01:05:34
helps with the muzzle rice. It helps keep you your follow-up
01:05:40
shots stay a little bit better on target.
01:05:44
All those features able. Now, the latest one.
01:05:48
They're adding and I want people to really pay attention to this
01:05:51
as and they were and Byron. I called him a couple of times.
01:05:55
Saying it, an assault weapon is a weapon that is capable of
01:06:00
accepting a detachable magazine. Yes, they want you back to Bo
01:06:07
action. Now they want you back to both
01:06:11
action because a magazine is evil.
01:06:14
Yeah, doesn't matter if it's 10 Rounds five rounds.
01:06:17
What? However, it's nope.
01:06:19
Nope. Nope, not at all.
01:06:20
They whack. Because again, they're what I
01:06:23
said at the beginning, they're placing more weight to the bad
01:06:27
Deeds that are done with these tools rather than the weight
01:06:31
which should be heavier the good uses of these Firearms which
01:06:37
should outweigh anything else defensive use of these tools
01:06:42
should outweigh any - use, okay? And you should not Limited the
01:06:49
here's the other one that they're pushing with this latest
01:06:51
and forgive me, I don't have the build that they were discussing
01:06:57
today and the Judiciary Committee, I believe, the
01:07:04
limiting, the capacity of rounds.
01:07:06
Again, these Crooks, they are getting super bold.
01:07:10
I don't know if you guys follow any any, you know, your typical
01:07:15
news accounts and on social media, Dia and whatever these
01:07:19
crooks are getting very bold. They're ganging up in, you know,
01:07:23
three and four, and they're rolling deep, and they're all
01:07:27
armed. And they're going to have the
01:07:29
standard capacity magazines, but they want you because you are
01:07:33
the law-abiding citizen. They want you to have 10 Rounds,
01:07:38
they want you to reload, they want you to have, you know, to
01:07:43
face those attackers, you know, and not have the most Efficient
01:07:49
and effective tools that you can possibly have.
01:07:53
Yeah that's what the effectively.
01:07:54
I mean pun intended you would be.
01:07:56
They want you out gone by yeah. Criminals who have a better gone
01:08:01
than you do. But they say what what they're
01:08:04
saying is we can't have our cops being outgunned but what cook is
01:08:10
going to follow your loss, man. Know why crook is going to
01:08:13
follow your ear? You know, 10 round capacity loss
01:08:18
whether or not? They're not.
01:08:21
So in a dress tonight. In from Yahoo news, I didn't
01:08:25
watch the whole thing because it happened so fast, I didn't even
01:08:28
know. It was happening.
01:08:29
Probably, they probably did that by design that they didn't want
01:08:32
people to know he was going on national TV but here at this is
01:08:36
from that, right? Yeah.
01:08:38
Any, any time they can hide him behind anything.
01:08:41
Yahoo news says, this is a quote from him.
01:08:45
He says, here's what the families in Buffalo and in Valle
01:08:47
D, I think I said that, right. Is it eovaldi or probably
01:08:52
entitled? Sure, that's all Val.
01:08:53
Di like, what most people are saying, Uvalde.
01:08:59
Texas told us we must do, we need to ban assault weapons?
01:09:02
Which we just talked about high-capacity magazines, which
01:09:05
we also talked about standard capacity, if we can't ban
01:09:09
assault weapons, then we should raise the age, to purchase them,
01:09:13
from 18 to 21. So Biden, also listed
01:09:17
strengthening stay safe, safe storage laws, background checks,
01:09:21
and implementing red flag law. Among other rational, rational
01:09:25
common-sense measures that must be taken up and passed by
01:09:28
Congress? Several of these proposals were
01:09:31
rejected in the months after twenty.
01:09:33
Six people, including 20 children were murdered at Sandy
01:09:35
Hook Elementary nearly 10 years ago.
01:09:38
So, which one do you want to start with first?
01:09:41
We already talked about the assault weapons and
01:09:42
high-capacity magazines. Let's talk about raising the age
01:09:46
from 18 to 21, and I know at this point on Twitter that
01:09:50
somebody said, well, I think you should not be Able to buy a
01:09:53
firearm unless you're 21. Even even if you're a former
01:09:57
military or if you're in the military I don't think you
01:09:59
should be able to buy a firearm which to me makes it sound like
01:10:04
okay, so you're fine with sending 18 year.
01:10:07
Olds over to die in Foreign Wars that are only for profit of
01:10:12
Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. Thank you, everyone.
01:10:15
Thank you. And they come home.
01:10:16
We want to defend themselves, you can't do that, that's too
01:10:19
dangerous. But we have no problem for you
01:10:22
because In a meat barrier to go die in Foreign Wars, you hazards
01:10:26
for oil and big weapon. Thank you.
01:10:28
Thank you as a veteran. I thoroughly.
01:10:32
Appreciate you saying that absolutely on ironically because
01:10:37
yes, so here's my ticket. Okay.
01:10:41
I'm all about consistency. I cannot stand, you know,
01:10:45
intellectual and consistency if you want to do that, then, let's
01:10:50
just do it across the board. Let's make it, you know, the age
01:10:53
of consent, let's make it 21 across the board.
01:10:57
Don't allow anyone to sign up in into the military until they're
01:11:01
age, 21 and they are probably going to be like, more.
01:11:05
Like you're trying to send me to go fight for your are military.
01:11:09
Industrial complex, huh? Yeah.
01:11:11
I'm not. Yeah so okay let's go ahead and
01:11:17
make it 21. Let's let's make it 25.
01:11:20
Yeah let's make it 25. Yeah and and kill the entire
01:11:25
alcoholic. Beverage industry or tobacco
01:11:27
industry a race you know the largest demographic you know
01:11:32
that they go after which is 18 through, you know, whatever.
01:11:37
Yeah. And not only that it's going to
01:11:39
do it does does deprive the Terry one of their best selling
01:11:42
points, which is you walk up to an 18 year old who has no idea
01:11:45
what they want to do. They don't know if things are
01:11:47
the college. I can't afford College.
01:11:50
Kinda sharp uniform comes up to him says, would have you thought
01:11:53
about your future, we can give you all this stuff?
01:11:55
You'll travel. You'll see the world.
01:11:58
You may just see a sandpit somewhere in Afghanistan, but,
01:12:04
you know, these are and it is, I don't know if you saw the video
01:12:11
Tom. Massey was on fire today in the
01:12:13
heroes Heroes. Yeah it was it was incredible.
01:12:16
Love Thomas. Massie he cornered Jerry Nadler
01:12:19
and made Jerry Nadler stumble over himself because which are
01:12:24
not so hard. Well, yeah, he's not the
01:12:28
sharpest tool in the shed. I was that he brought up the
01:12:30
point that the same point. He said, well, I think I would
01:12:33
like to move the, by the age to 21, and then Thomas Massie
01:12:37
pointed out the same thing. So you're fine with.
01:12:41
Sending people over or in lessening the military at 18.
01:12:47
Correct. But you don't want people buying
01:12:48
guns until they're 21 because you said their brains aren't
01:12:51
fully formed yet. Correct.
01:12:52
Yeah and he goes okay. So you want people joining the
01:12:56
military, you're fine with people who don't have fully
01:12:58
formed brains joining the military and Jerry Nadler was
01:13:01
kind of like at that. That's not what I that's not
01:13:05
what I meant. Now that is exactly what you
01:13:07
want you want. You're trying to say I do.
01:13:11
Care if their brains are fully formed or not put that uniform
01:13:14
on and go go to a war, you know, my lobbyist behind me.
01:13:19
They want me to send more people off to war.
01:13:21
Hey we need to go send more people over to Ukraine to fight
01:13:24
for democracy or whatever because I'll be right.
01:13:28
So I'm not, I don't believe it's I don't think this will be a
01:13:31
starting point and I don't see the big difference between 18
01:13:36
and 21 but you can let me what are your thoughts?
01:13:40
So my thoughts are, you know, I was I was joking about, you
01:13:45
know, making it 25, 21, or 25. What, who at what age do you
01:13:55
gain? The right to defend yourself?
01:14:01
It should be right when you're born, right?
01:14:03
So I don't believe in, you know, these are age limits?
01:14:09
I don't because I'm a tell you right now This idiot took these
01:14:18
kids, you know, from their loved ones and and stole their life,
01:14:24
those kids if they're have been a teacher armed and that teacher
01:14:28
was taking out. Those kids had any of those kids
01:14:31
had entirely in the right to pick up that gun and engage that
01:14:37
dude. Whether they were 10 or 11 or
01:14:40
14, I don't care. So no eyes, you see, I operate
01:14:47
from the standpoint of Freedom ensuring that our people
01:14:54
citizens of the United States, get to exercise their freedoms.
01:14:58
And Liberties that God bestowed upon all of us with no, you, no
01:15:06
opposition. No roadblocks from our
01:15:08
government. Am I see?
01:15:10
That's my point. It might be DV, y, a little bit
01:15:13
from Biden's agenda, but I'm curious to know your perspective
01:15:16
on because your about Freedom a bit contentious part.
01:15:20
When talking about the second on the right that I've noticed is
01:15:25
red flag laws. What is your opinion on that?
01:15:29
I'm completely against them cuz when you look at again, if you
01:15:34
studied our documents and the Bill of Rights we have, Fourth
01:15:39
and fifth amendment and red flag laws are huge infringement on
01:15:46
the fourth and fifth amendment's and just to clarify.
01:15:49
Can you just give a quick rundown?
01:15:50
What is a red flag law? For people who don't know?
01:15:53
Yeah, sure. The red that red flag loss
01:15:55
otherwise are also known as known as gun violence.
01:16:00
Restraining orders, they are being referred like that here,
01:16:05
for example, here in California. And the gist of it is your Farms
01:16:11
owner. Somebody who knows, you a
01:16:16
neighbor, A co-worker, your significant other, they have
01:16:23
some sort of concern that you are a danger to yourself or to
01:16:27
others. They make a report to the
01:16:31
authorities and what the authorities do, the way that
01:16:36
these are structured is they'll come and take your guns first.
01:16:41
And then they do due process. So it's an entire flip, you
01:16:47
know, of our Judicial System, where we are all supposed to be,
01:16:54
you know, accused of a crime first.
01:16:57
But now we are reaching. What was that?
01:17:01
Was that movie? Where they try to see who's
01:17:06
likely of committing a crime and they and only report Minority
01:17:11
Report. Thank you.
01:17:13
We're a minority report. Yeah, we are a Minority Report
01:17:17
that, that they somehow some way they are looking at the future
01:17:20
and you have, they are accusing, you of a future crime.
01:17:26
And then they come and deprive. You of your second amendment
01:17:28
rights. They take away your your
01:17:30
firearms and you have to effectively, you have to prove
01:17:34
That you were not about to commit a crime.
01:17:37
It's crazy. It's backwards.
01:17:39
So, no, I do not support gun violence, restriction orders,
01:17:47
otherwise known as red flag loss because the potential for abuse
01:17:53
is horrible. It's already been abused.
01:17:56
People have already been killed by cops showing up in the dead
01:18:00
of night because that's another thing cops love to do the raids
01:18:04
in. The dead of night, when some,
01:18:05
when people are asleep, right? Come knocking on the door.
01:18:09
You know, we've had several cases of, you know, no-knock
01:18:13
warrants or even knock warrants announced, right?
01:18:18
Cops cops cops, but they're trying, they're, you know,
01:18:21
effectively whoever's inside the home and if they're armed, you
01:18:27
can effectively be like this is somebody just trying to break
01:18:31
into my house announcing themselves as cops.
01:18:33
I'm going to grab my And what happens the soon as somebody you
01:18:38
know one of the cop sees that there's a gun.
01:18:40
They're just shooting I have. No that's that's it.
01:18:45
Yeah no no I don't agree with them.
01:18:49
So which is like a slippery slope because I was kind of
01:18:53
fascinated by it because you would think the Republicans are
01:18:57
on the right. Like we're supposed to be
01:18:59
stereotypically, the ones that are more for the Second
01:19:01
Amendment and I've always been astounded to see.
01:19:04
He and here so many Republicans actually, before it's like some
01:19:07
kind of compromise like, no, this isn't there's no gray area.
01:19:11
This is a hill that's worthy to die on.
01:19:13
Well, yeah, it's a yes, it is a compromise, but more than a
01:19:17
compromise is a being phase and I will explain it and I was
01:19:21
banana like this, you know, sadly for a very long time here
01:19:26
in our country, we've been looking at government any time
01:19:29
that some tragedy happens. We look at government would go
01:19:32
like do something right? That's what people have been
01:19:36
telling government and the and where there's government go,
01:19:39
they just come up with these ideas and that's when that's
01:19:43
where that's coming from, they just it's just Saving Face.
01:19:46
We're doing something by the way.
01:19:49
Here's another thing. I greatly disagree with I
01:19:53
disagree with government saying that their biggest and most
01:19:57
solemn duty is to keep us safe. I don't agree with that.
01:20:02
Yeah, I don't agree with that because cuz that is a that's a
01:20:06
promise that government cannot keep and they do not keep
01:20:10
routinely. Yeah so it should be up until
01:20:15
update your biggest and most valuable you know possession is
01:20:21
your life and you and only you are you know the ultimate
01:20:29
defender of your life. Now the government Yeah, I think
01:20:33
even good police officers who are out there who are doing
01:20:37
their job and they are plenty of them out there and they will
01:20:41
fully admit. Our job is not to be your
01:20:44
bodyguard or your private security.
01:20:47
We cannot be everywhere at once and we can't stop everything at
01:20:51
once so know and and there's no I'ma tell you right now to
01:20:54
someone to ask the father, right?
01:20:56
If I were to copy, there's no amount of money of money on
01:21:00
Earth that you can pay me. Me.
01:21:02
So I stepped in front of a bullet for you.
01:21:05
I'm talking about, as if I was a cop, there's no amount of money
01:21:09
that you can pay on Earth to a cop to go step in front of a
01:21:13
bullet for somebody else, because that means they're not
01:21:16
going to go back to see their family.
01:21:18
Yeah. Now it's just, it's just human
01:21:22
nature and I'm not knocking on Cops.
01:21:24
I have friends that are cops. I served with people who are now
01:21:28
cops and and indifferent, you know, Realms of Law enforcement
01:21:34
but there's no amount of money on Earth that you can pay
01:21:36
someone to go and die for somebody, that's not their kids
01:21:40
with their loved ones. Yeah, so what so what's the
01:21:45
alternative, the alternative is get government out of people's
01:21:50
way? Get government out of the right
01:21:53
of people to keep and bear arms and defend themselves.
01:21:59
It's actually simple. It's actually quite simple.
01:22:02
But it requires as something that government is not used to
01:22:07
and it's not built to. And that is admitting that they
01:22:11
are not capable of doing something which is, which is
01:22:15
saving us, they're not their income people, there it goes
01:22:18
back to what we were talking about before I think you're
01:22:21
getting to the real philosophical heart of the
01:22:25
matter which is, if the intent of the second amendment was for
01:22:29
you to protect your life. And they chip away at it.
01:22:36
And, like, you said, when bad things happen and they train
01:22:42
people to think when bad things happen, the government has to
01:22:45
step in and do something as opposed to.
01:22:47
Well, bad things happen and we as a society or a community can
01:22:52
deal with it, we always look to the government to save us and
01:22:56
sooner or later, we keep looking to the government to protect us
01:22:59
in this way. Protect us in this way, protect
01:23:02
us in this way until you're completely and wholly reliant on
01:23:06
the government to do everything for you.
01:23:09
And that's right. Really A slow crawl towards
01:23:13
authoritarianism that I believe that they're they're fine with
01:23:18
implementing. They're like, yeah, absolutely.
01:23:20
Give us more power to save and protect your lives.
01:23:25
We wink wink. We don't really care about
01:23:27
protecting their lives here. Meaningless to all of us.
01:23:30
We don't care if you die in a gutter, Graham, it's about
01:23:34
gaining the power and the ability to control your life and
01:23:41
do All these other things that is why they're coming up, it's a
01:23:44
little bit off subject but I do believe is related.
01:23:47
That is why they're now saying the world economic Forum, what
01:23:51
is it that they're saying you will own nothing and you'll be
01:23:54
happy, have some overarching, you know, umbrella of covering
01:24:01
all your needs, you just? You just be attacks cow.
01:24:04
How about that? And and just be happy, just be
01:24:07
attacks. Go give us our taxes and we'll
01:24:10
take care of you and know. that is, I mean, the Matrix, the
01:24:15
original movie Matrix that was prophetic, Okay.
01:24:19
Yeah, that original movie The Matrix that was prophetic
01:24:24
indeed, red pill or blue pill. I mean the the Matrix you know,
01:24:30
holding all the humans as tax cows effectively and we're just
01:24:38
hooked in and into this you know alternative reality.
01:24:41
And they were just happy right? The few that were unplugged.
01:24:47
They're like wow how that I've Living like what?
01:24:50
And that is. What Kobe did, you know, covid
01:24:52
unplugged a lot of us, I think. So.
01:24:55
And a lot of people, I mean not to get way off topic but sure,
01:25:01
sure, outside of the Matrix, this is all been happening.
01:25:05
This happened throughout history, this happened in the
01:25:08
18th century. It's why we had a revolution
01:25:10
even more so it's why there was a French Revolution because they
01:25:15
were being taxed to death in France while the elites were
01:25:18
living there. Happy lives and they just didn't
01:25:20
care about anybody. You couldn't buy a loaf of
01:25:23
bread, for how many, whatever French dollars back then.
01:25:27
And it's, you know, you look at the similarities of where we are
01:25:31
in society and it's Eerie in that sense, it's scary to think
01:25:36
that's where we're headed that we have a government in place.
01:25:39
Now, that says, oh, just give us all the power.
01:25:42
Give us everything, let's just trust in US continue to pay your
01:25:46
taxes. That we keep raising every year.
01:25:49
Look, A little tax cattle and we'll protect you, don't worry
01:25:53
about it. Meanwhile, you know, like, Nancy
01:25:56
Pelosi is worth 200 million dollars.
01:25:59
That's an eye at that and why it, why is this?
01:26:02
We've gotten to another point where it's like, we're it's
01:26:05
another French Revolution, we're tax cattle.
01:26:07
Our liberties are natural rights.
01:26:09
Have been absolutely eroded to a point where you can't even find
01:26:14
your natural rights anymore. You literally just wake up, go
01:26:18
to work. Pay your A payroll taxes, your
01:26:20
gas tax or sales, tax your food tax, your your property tax,
01:26:25
your tax on this your tax on that until the day you die.
01:26:28
And then they they don't care. Your you've been a using, you
01:26:31
pay your tax again to your death test again and you pay another
01:26:34
tax when you die too. And your kids pea-sized, last
01:26:38
thing I want to touch upon is he brings up background checks and
01:26:43
there's always this confusion about background checks.
01:26:47
Do people do background checks. Do you have You background
01:26:49
checks, what states do background checks?
01:26:52
And I want you to just clear the air for people, so that shackle,
01:26:55
whenever they get the little Twitter spats or whatever, they
01:26:59
can just say, look you're wrong, this is the facts, you're not
01:27:03
right. So what's the deal with
01:27:05
background checks? So it is federal law and all 50
01:27:08
states. That if you are going to acquire
01:27:12
a firearm from a firearms, from a federal firearms, license efl
01:27:17
you are too. Go through a background check,
01:27:20
which is a NYX Czech, National instant criminal system where
01:27:25
they check for your criminal record and in all 50 states.
01:27:30
And territories, if you pass that your scot-free now, here in
01:27:37
California, we have to background checks.
01:27:39
We have the federal, and we have this thing.
01:27:43
So, no, you have to do a background check.
01:27:46
Now, there are other states and Which it is.
01:27:51
It is legal for someone to sell their rightfully owned property,
01:27:59
whenever to whoever they please, as long as that person is not a
01:28:02
prohibited possessor. So Just because it's a firearm,
01:28:09
doesn't mean that it is not your property and that you can do
01:28:12
with it as you please. Okay?
01:28:14
So, there are many states in the country that people can do that.
01:28:18
It's a transaction with somebody, you know, you know, a
01:28:22
neighbor family member, whatever you want to sell them, or give
01:28:25
them the gun, and that in what the laws in most of those States
01:28:29
state, if you are, if you are aware that, they are a
01:28:36
prohibited possessor. then you shouldn't sell it to them now,
01:28:39
again, I'm going right back to who cares to abide by a law and
01:28:46
who doesn't there is nothing? You can put all the laws on the
01:28:51
books until you know the book falls out right?
01:28:56
If somebody wants to sell a firearm, somebody else outside
01:29:00
of the law they will. Yeah.
01:29:03
Okay, if somebody wants to file off a serial number which for
01:29:09
some reason that I failed, To understand Democrats.
01:29:15
And some Rhino Republicans seem to believe that a serial number
01:29:20
on a firearm has some magic GPS that makes it traceable.
01:29:25
Listen, all you need to do is file of that baby of.
01:29:29
And that's it. You got yourself a ghost gun now
01:29:32
phrase. That's it.
01:29:34
You're going to trace it. Yeah, that's your number only
01:29:38
traces to the original manufacturer and to end wherever
01:29:43
that manufacturer first, you know, sent that gun to a
01:29:47
whatever federal firearms licensee.
01:29:50
Well that's it. And then to whoever pushes the
01:29:54
from that ever fell first, that's it.
01:29:56
If the - very next person filed off, you know, got that gun
01:30:00
stolen and they find then that person files off that 0.
01:30:03
It's gun on travel. So in a case of a background
01:30:09
check, it only looks up any sort of past criminality, correct?
01:30:14
Correct. Olly, olly, pass criminality, if
01:30:17
it cannot find intent. So in which, a lot of I is a kid
01:30:22
and your wealthy pass, the background check, no problem.
01:30:25
And then he went on to commit that crime and somebody else
01:30:28
just gosh Tulsa. The shooting that just passed
01:30:34
happen in Tulsa. Same thing, the person pass a
01:30:36
background, check a problem then and go, you cannot legislate
01:30:41
evil out of somebody's heart. If somebody can pass a
01:30:44
background check, they going to pass a background check.
01:30:46
Yeah, that's one thing that people always so we need more
01:30:49
background checks and if somebody hasn't committed any
01:30:53
crimes yet, correct and but they intend to commit a crime but
01:30:58
they have nothing on their background.
01:31:01
Check, that would alert you to anything it.
01:31:03
Show anything. It would just show.
01:31:05
It's a clean background check. Okay, that's an in.
01:31:09
What do we got? Is this standard now going to be
01:31:13
on the or is the liability going to be on the salesman at the gun
01:31:20
shop to subjectively look at a person and go there, you don't
01:31:26
think this person is right in the head area, I'm not gonna
01:31:30
sell to them, and it is His responsibility.
01:31:34
And what happens if he doesn't live up to that responsibility,
01:31:38
like so, but you could also open yourself to a violation of
01:31:43
somebody, somebody civil rights to on a farm because you
01:31:47
utilized a subjective standard, same thing.
01:31:51
Why people may think that we want that, they want to get
01:31:56
psychological evaluations. But again, you're going into
01:32:01
subjective territory. Yeah.
01:32:04
Yeah if you if you can have a doctor who does not believe in
01:32:08
the Second Amendment and then dr.
01:32:10
Denies every single person you know psychologist or
01:32:14
psychiatrist, what happened? No you cannot again.
01:32:19
You cannot Trump people's rights to self-defense with the two of
01:32:24
their choosing Yeah. Oh, by the way, which Jerry,
01:32:28
huh? My gosh, Jerry Nadler.
01:32:30
And and today's hearing he had the nerve of pulling out some
01:32:38
statistics from Moms Demand Action saying that it is not
01:32:43
proven that women who are firearms owners are most safe.
01:32:48
Wow. Well yeah, yeah.
01:32:53
And I was like, I almost screams.
01:32:55
I was like, I wish I could send this right now to all my female
01:33:00
students which in 99% of my classes.
01:33:03
I have had women of all ages and backgrounds who, you know, own
01:33:08
several types of different Firearms including AR-15s.
01:33:11
I wish you could say tell that to their face and and say with
01:33:18
Straight face now. Well, it's not like that
01:33:21
information came from an unbiased group, right, exactly,
01:33:26
exactly. Yeah, I mean, you have to look
01:33:27
at the source the it's not it's not necessarily unbiased you
01:33:32
know scientific information it's probably skewed in One
01:33:35
Direction. Absolutely.
01:33:38
And not principled either. Well, this has been I don't want
01:33:42
to cut it off, but it has been an hour and a half.
01:33:44
This has been an incredible podcast episode.
01:33:47
I fully expected it to be incredible and I told everybody
01:33:51
they should tune in. A lot of information.
01:33:54
We probably could have tried it for another hour.
01:33:57
Oh yeah. So it was jam-packed.
01:34:00
I'll be happy to come again with you.
01:34:03
Absolutely, I mean, yeah, we definitely have to have you back
01:34:06
to talk more about this, especially in California because
01:34:09
I'm sure they'll be More laws, coming down the pike and we can
01:34:11
talk all about that stuff before we log off, though.
01:34:15
Where can people find you and learn more information about
01:34:18
you? Absolutely.
01:34:19
So I'm on Instagram at trigger ology underscore ft for firearms
01:34:23
training. I am also on Twitter, I am
01:34:26
tweeting, I enjoyed not that long ago where I am.
01:34:30
Actively engaging all your favorite anti to a folks and
01:34:36
there's the same thing trigger ology ft.
01:34:40
Where I am engaging everyone. Who's trying to take away rights
01:34:45
and my website trigger ology ft.com.
01:34:51
I have to give you a follow on Twitter because I saw an
01:34:53
Instagram. You are posting your dunks on on
01:34:55
anti to a people. So I'm gonna have to go with
01:34:57
Milo onto a or on Twitter. I'm gonna follow you to on
01:35:01
Twitter. Absolutely.
01:35:03
Yeah. And simply, won't you plug where
01:35:04
people can find you and Cynthia has a lot of great Twitter take.
01:35:08
So I always say if you want to awesome.
01:35:10
Also has got a good Twitter takes follow Cynthia, where can
01:35:14
people find you? Well, thank you and thank you
01:35:17
for coming on because even I learned a lot too.
01:35:20
I have a yeah I don't want to give too many details but I do
01:35:24
have family like in military as well, veterans and active duty
01:35:28
so it's always I'm and I have like probably the most
01:35:31
conservative take on as well. No red flag, cause none of that.
01:35:35
So but I learned a lot today. So thank you for coming on and
01:35:38
being part of the conversation, and we're happy to have you back
01:35:41
onto. So on Twitter and on Instagram
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you can buy me Cynthia collie. So it's say that my last name is
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Callie kayui. Awesome.
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