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On this episode I am joined by Cynthia and Jonathan Zacherson, the founder of Reopen California Schools, to discuss the crazy bills left making their way through the legislature. We discuss where they are at, and their likeliness of passing.
A list of the bills we discussed is below:
SB866 – Minors age 12 and older minor “may consent to their medical care and treatment without the consent of a parent or guardian.”
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB866
SB1390 – Defines that individuals who have opinions that the State considers harmful due to disinformation or misinformation can be prosecuted. Law addresses “medicine or vaccinations, false or misleading information regarding elections, and conspiracy theories.”
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB1390
SB1464 – “Authorizes each sheriff to enforce all orders of the State Department of Public Health or of the local health officer (unelected officials).
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB1464
AB1993 – “This bill would require an employer to require each person who is an employee or independent contractor, and who is eligible to receive the COVID-19 vaccine, to show proof to the employer, or an authorized agent thereof, that the person has been vaccinated against COVID-19.” In other words, no current COVID-19 vaccine no job.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB1993
AB2098 – Medical Board can discipline physicians deemed misinformation regarding COVID-19. In other words, strip their license.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2098
SB871 – Bans students from public and private schools that have not been fully immunized against COVID-19.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB871
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podcast. What's going on everybody?
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Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the California
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underground. I have here with me as a calming
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guest house or guest co-host. Cynthia who's back again?
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As well as a new guest John, who is here with us?
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He's a the founder, let me get this right there.
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Founder of reopen County Schools, reopen, California,
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schools, and a parent advocate is very involved.
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In a lot of the legislative stuff, he knows a lot of stuff.
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That's going on. I reached out to Cynthia.
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I was like, we need to talk about what crazy bills are still
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left here in the legislature because everyone was all
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excited. That a bee 1993 is on pause
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right now. So we all everyone's like taking
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the way in which is good, we should take the win and be happy
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that it's on pause right now. But there's still a slew of
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crazy bills that I think are even crazier.
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Maybe, in my opinion some of these are even crazier and out
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there like 84 ish, then 1993 a be 1993 and we're going to get
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to them. So before we begin, Johnny wants
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a little bit about yourself since it's your first time on
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sure. Yeah.
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My name's Jonathan's Ackerson. I'm from Placer County.
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I got involved in this about two years ago in school shutdown was
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really upset. What was going on with my kids?
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They will not learning and so I started at the county level
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realized that really wasn't where the issue was and that was
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good. As at the state level.
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So that's when I found a real California schools in June of
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2020 you know naively thinking that we would have a rally at
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the Capitol in July and that would get our schools open, you
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know, obviously we had to keep going the movement grew as more
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and more people realize that the state wasn't going to make the
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right decisions and it just continued until they had a sue
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the governor over mask mandates Rita sue.
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The governor over some, the quarantine protocols and you
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know where we're at now. Is it just It required an act of
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defiance by families and even some school districts to get
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masks off for kids. And so, we're now seeing like
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you said, he slew of bills primarily written by one Senator
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driving. A lot of this that are just
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completely insane as you alluded to in 1984 ish type of
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legislation. Yeah, I guess we have a lot to
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hop into and I want to start off, kind of like a Schoolhouse
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Rock sort of thing. We're all going to go back.
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We're going to go back to like second or third grade and we go
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back to our civics lesson. I don't even think they teach
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Civics anymore and a lot of schools, but we're going to go
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back to how does a bill even become a law in California?
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And I think this is really crucial that people understand
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this, because when you're talking about the terminology of
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where, a bill is, what it's doing, what part of this whole
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flow chart it's in Make a big difference because yeah, a bill
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can pass a committee and a lot of people just see something
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passes a committee and they think it's past and oh no, we're
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screwed. But that could just be the first
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step and it has other steps to get to some of these bills do
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kind of flounder. Sometimes their authors pull
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them and they don't want to move forward with them.
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So just real quickly we're going to walk through this little flow
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chart and we can refer back to it again throughout the
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throughout all of our discussion of the bills.
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So we can say oh it's at this point in the flow chart, it goes
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through a draft, an introduction, you got your first
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reading, then it goes to committee.
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This is really important, this is what happened with Kevin
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Kylie and this prior this week with this guy suspension tax and
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Alex Lee did his little Shenanigans.
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That's the best way. And most polite way to put it,
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where he got an amended, the bill it can went through
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committee, it goes to a second, reading to whatever house.
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Was introduced and so we have the Senate, we have the
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assembly, sort of like the senate in the US House of
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Representatives floor, debate and vote and then it gets sent
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to the second house. They repeat a lot of the same
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steps and then it has to go back and if there's differences they
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either resolve them or they just pass them as is which is pretty
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common with a super majority of Democrats and then it goes to
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Gavin Newsom to sign or veto. So that's the really quick
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version of how a bill becomes The law I guess.
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I'll let our new ho or new guests, choose the first bill.
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He wants to hop on and we'll pull it up.
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All right, well let's talk. You have SP 9:20 on your list.
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That's the breaking news that we have so I can pull it up but
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you're talking about it, okay? Yeah, Sokka.
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It's will be briefed on this one.
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But, you know, this is a very scary one that we've seen
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because this would allow the medical board to just walk into
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a doctor's office and start looking at Medical Records
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without the patient's consent. And for any reason, I guess they
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might have to have some sort of cause they want to just waste
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their resources on it, but they don't have to have a legal cause
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they would be able to walk in pull these records and then
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decide. They want to subpoena the
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records for court. So, you know, this was probably,
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you know, my understanding this is probably targeting some
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doctors who were issuing mask exemptions, or providing
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patients with kind of treatment that maybe, you know, Senator
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pan didn't necessarily like and so that's what we're thinking
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where this was coming from. But the author just about an
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hour and a half ago announced that she was pulling this bill
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And that she was not. So basically it's so in she was
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introduced right to commit. It was scheduled.
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I believe for committee. Yeah, it's scheduled for
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committing on on the fourth, looks like April 4th and she
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pulled it now. Often the reason why this
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happens just like with 1993 AV 1993 was.
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She didn't have the votes, it wasn't going to pass.
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And so instead of having a, you know, go through that process, I
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have all the testimony and then ultimately The representative
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say no, we're not going to go for this, they just pull it and
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maybe they try to introduce it at another time, maybe different
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year. You know, there's all sorts of
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things that they can do. She said that the reason she
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pulled it was because this wasn't a covid bill.
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This was just a general medical bill and she's right.
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But I think what the way public health and the way the medical
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board and establishment has addressed, you know, some of
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these medical issues, there's a lot.
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Skepticism out there. And so we don't want, you know,
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the medical board has to come in and look at our records are
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kids, records. Are individual records for any
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reason for, you know, from where we're seeing medical seeking
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medical treatment. Do you know who the author was?
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It is Hurtado. I'm sorry Todd.
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Oh, okay. Yeah she she was just recently
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on a TV show talking about how the suspension of the gas tax
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wouldn't really reflect in the price of gasoline.
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It wouldn't really help put money back in people's pockets
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even if the price of the gal goes up, it still won't help.
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And I was trying to figure out where the logic is with that.
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Yeah, that was a pretty scary one that the state has the
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ability to just kind of walk in and start inspecting your
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medical records especially because there Is this kind of
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common assumption in American society that your medical
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records are private? Your, what goes on with your
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medical happens between you and your doctor, it's sort of that
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privileged relationship, its confidentiality, it's sort of
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like the attorney-client confidentiality and the idea
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that the state can just kind of walk in and be like, well, we're
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going to check it just because we want to check in where a
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little suspicious of these changes.
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How people might interact with their doctor.
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If they know that the medical board could come in and Start
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picking and poking around your medical records.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, very scary.
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So Cynthia, I'll let you choose the next bill if you have anyone
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that kind of tickles your fancy, I want to go through the one.
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Do we have S be 866 miners age through 12 and older?
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Minor Makin sense their medical care and treatment without the
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consent of a parent or Guardian. Yeah, we do right here,
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introduced by Senator wiener and pan, you're going to see a lot
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of Senator pan on. All these bills is fingerprints
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are on all these. Yeah, we know panowitz those are
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the common thread there. I've heard this, I'm not sure if
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it's true but some of these bills Weber was on and I have to
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verify that that that she made taken herself off.
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So we'll kind of just maybe we'll see that as we go through
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here like we see Friedman was taken off this bill.
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So well I got some petty. Why would someone why would you
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believe someone would take their name off of a bill at a certain
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point after its introduced. The probably don't want to be
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associated with it anymore. That was kind of interesting
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Ploy that was happened earlier this week with Kylie and Lee.
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They completely gutted it and replaced it instead of attacks
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temporary. Next a relief, they give a tax
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increase and they didn't even allow him to take his name off
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of it. So now you have a bill going to
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the next committee. That's a tax increase with
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Kylie's name on. Yeah.
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You take his name off at a subway.
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I'm not familiar with that process.
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I would hope so. Yeah.
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But it'll be interesting to see what happens next time on, he
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does. But yeah, so to this bill, this
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bill 86 is a bill that It would allow basically give consent for
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vacuum. Any vaccine, not just covid X in
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any vaccine to anybody, 12 and older right now.
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The only vaccines that, that can be for our hepatitis and HPV and
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that's because there's specific language in there.
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That talks about sexually transmitted diseases that, you
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know, might be 12 and older can get those ones, but this brings
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up a lot of issues in particular, who's going to, if
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you know, if there's a reaction who's going to monitor them?
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Who knows their medical history, you know, especially as they're
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trying to get this vaccine clinics on schools where we hear
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stories where they were giving up vaccines without consent
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because they were forging parents, signatures is an l.a.,
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you know, hanging out pizza. Hanging out prizes hanging up
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gift cards. And so are these children really
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making, you know? First off, we kept just
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question, the Judgment of many 12 year olds, but, you know,
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they really making that even the best 12 years making the best
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judgment for their medical health over a getting free
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stuff. Which is what we saw happening.
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And on top of that, you know, who knows, their medical history
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before giving out vaccines at a school site or someone who
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doesn't know this, there could be a reaction to us and that's
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very scary for them for a lot of parents to know that they can
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just do it. And not one, you don't have any
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not able to be informed because you don't have access to the
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medical courage and to, you know, aren't able to even give
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consent as a parent. Yeah, it's funny.
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You brought up the the free stuff.
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There was the the mayor of National City.
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A not the mayor of Chula Vista, always get its mayor of National
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City. She was hosting a three kings
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event after Christmas, which is a big holiday in the Mexican
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culture. And so, they had this whole area
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where they were giving out toys and gifts and stuff like that
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and along with the gifts it was like you can get a gift if you
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just go over here and get a vaccine and it's stuff like
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that. I was like that's that's just
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seems weird and the power That's were obviously they're behind it
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but you're right. Like it could be an issue of
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they don't really know. They just do it because they got
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a free pizza or free toy or whatever.
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They're not really thinking about it.
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And sometimes it's not really in their best interest and that 12,
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I don't know if I would have been, if you if someone had
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asked me about my vaccines at 12, I don't think I would have
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been able to answer more really care what vaccines I had.
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That's what my mom was usually for was to find that stuff out.
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But Cynthia, you Wanted to talk about this bill in particular
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why? What church what kind of got
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you? Why did you want to talk about
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this one? What I didn't want to say, I try
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and shy away from the word trigger.
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I didn't want to say you got triggered by this bill. so I
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think, you know, a common theme, you know, from these past two
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years is that so typically for my opinions and Farms
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government, you know, really differs off of like the region,
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the district and the type of office speaking like
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specifically for California, we abide one-party rule for a very
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long time. That being said, when they came
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to these past two years with what happened with the pandemic
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and all that, I've obviously, it's no surprise that we've had
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the worst of the worst as far as Government tyranny and in my
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personal purview just as a General theme.
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I think that are California legislature in particular, have
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really shown their worst hand and their cards as far as
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interfering with the decisions, that the role of parents and the
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role of like how families play. And I think, you know, the best
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description and analogy. I can give is that, you know, I
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think that the California legislature is basically playing
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parents and playing family and to me that is a big issue.
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I think we should be putting families over institutions and
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it really hits it really it really hits home especially like
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if you're a parent or someone that has family values when you
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have these politicians and elected officials that think
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that they know better than the individuals that made life and
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the individuals that are raising these lives.
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So anything where you know these people think that That they know
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better than parents or, you know, they think they can make
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better decisions or perhaps feel that they are entitled to think
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that they know what's better. That's unacceptable to me.
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Yeah, it's a, it reminds me of that video.
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Clip of Melissa harris-perry who said, you know, we have to get
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over this notion of like the children but they're your
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possession or something. We haven't really talked about
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how this notion of the children belong to us, they belong to the
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community and that's what it sort of does.
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I feel like with a lot of these bills as they are, the state is
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starting to step in as like where the better parents to your
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children then you could ever be and if you follow Richard pan on
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Twitter he always likes to tout. Well I'm a doctor.
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I know what's best and I did this for my kids so you should
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be doing this for your kids. Otherwise you're a bad parent
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and I know better because I'm a good parent John.
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Do you see a lot of that? I mean, you've been working a
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lot with trying to reopen schools and children and stuff
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like that. Do you see a lot of parents
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getting this sense that the state is really kind of pushing
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too hard and trying to take over their kids lives?
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Oh definitely many people weren't really paying attention.
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Now, there were there were definitely people been attention
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and I've gotten to know them. He's past two years but they've
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been at it for a long time and they've seen this happening
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slowly but there wasn't enough people paying attention or maybe
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because it was happening to slowly with covid and the
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shutdowns and extended closures and a mask mandates.
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Open up a lot of people's eyes and they saw what was going on.
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They really pull back that curtain and so they do see this
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just brought take over at schools on the education, the
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curriculum. We see that when it comes to
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health policy and it's just incredible at a time when people
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are paying this much attention, this is when pan decides he
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wants to come up with the most atrocious bills on medical
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create, especially for families, making medical decisions for
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their children and add to. This is all like you said, pan.
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This is primarily the author or part of the authors and a lot of
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us it's coming out of a group that he created his former Chief
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of Staff created this group called protect us in.
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Its this this group that's that's pretty much drafting a
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lot of this legislation. He's helping fund raise for this
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group, while he's fundraising for his own committees for
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races, that he's not even in. And so we don't know what's
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going on there, but there's definitely a lot of money behind
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it and unfortunately we can't see where some of that money is
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coming. From unnecessary words going,
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but we do know the output are those bills.
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Yeah, you could always just do like follow the money dot org
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and just see sort of the the trend of where Richard pan gets
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a lot of his money from and you can start to kind of connect the
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dots of why he does a lot of the stuff he does.
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So let's take a look at where it is right now.
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So anyone who's not watching where on the California
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legislative information site, that's where we're looking at
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all these bills. It gives you the up-to-date
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information on all these bills it gives you the votes, the bill
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analysis, Right now, we're looking at the history, which
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shows you exactly like where it is right now.
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So, right now, recently, it's from committee with authors,
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amendments, read second time, and amended re referred to
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committee on Judiciary, is that it Judiciary is.
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Yeah, I'm assuming ju D, so that's where it is right now.
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It's going back to the committee after its second read and you
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can track all these bills. If you sign up with an account,
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you can track all these bills and follow them and they'll give
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you updates. Laughs.
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So if there's a bill go to this site, it's ledge info dot
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legislator. Ca.gov, you could just type that
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in to Google and or DuckDuckGo or whatever.
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Search engine is super trendy right now and just go find it
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and start tracking these bills, because DuckDuckGo is no longer
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cool anymore. So, whatever search engine, I
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don't know what search engine people are using right now.
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So, I think the next why I want to move on to is 13s.
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Senate Bill 1390 which again, introduced by Senator pan, this
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one specifically is regarding social media platforms.
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It talks about social media platforms and the amplification
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of harmful content existing law prohibits a person among others
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from making, or disseminate and any advertising device or any
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manner or means whatsoever including over the Internet.
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Any statement concerning real or personal property or services?
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That is Untrue or misleading as specified in the bill would
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prohibit a social media platform.
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As defined from amplifying, harmful content in a manner that
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results in a user viewing. Harmful contact content from
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another user, with whom the user did not choose to share a
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connection. So this is what I'm talking
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about when I say some of these bills really are straight out in
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1984. Oh yeah, it was.
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What is harmful content? According to Senator pan.
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We're all right and you know it's interesting I did tweet
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about this bill in particular when I saw when I saw the
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language on it and saw some of these amendments and you know, I
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really look at this as long as like a personal bill for him, he
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hates any negative comments on his social media.
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And so if you notice that you go to his Twitter account, any
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negative comment he will suppress it.
00:20:18
So Twitter allows him and others to hide comments on any of your
00:20:22
tweets if you like, He doesn't all the time.
00:20:25
You can't see and you look, he's often ratioed on Twitter but you
00:20:28
don't see any of these comments, you don't maybe one positive
00:20:30
comment and 99 negative comments and so, you know, it's almost
00:20:34
like he doesn't like this in fact, even called out just a
00:20:38
regular citizen on this message in and took a screenshot of her
00:20:43
post and then tweeted it out, you know, degrading her and
00:20:47
called her name's. And so, you know, it's very
00:20:51
interesting that he's taken I feel like it's his personal,
00:20:54
don't say mean things to panvel. Yeah, it's very scary that.
00:20:59
You know, what is disinformation, what is
00:21:00
information? What how do you define these
00:21:02
terms? We had people censored on social
00:21:06
media for, you know, they were wrong.
00:21:08
They were, they were wrong in saying that quotes to only be
00:21:12
right, six months later, you know, constantly do the
00:21:15
pandemic. And so none of those ideas are
00:21:17
issues would get out there and this would find and entities for
00:21:22
doing so. And another ER, scary part about
00:21:24
this bill that actually requires a large social media companies
00:21:27
to track this stuff and handed over to the Department of
00:21:30
Justice. I believe, every single every
00:21:33
single time that someone Flags it, so I can imagine pan going
00:21:36
through and flagging. Every single instance of people
00:21:40
commenting on his Twitter account.
00:21:44
Well, it says here I asked what was harmful content and they do
00:21:49
Define it. They talk about libel and
00:21:52
slander. It's subsection c 2, says
00:21:56
threats of imminent, violence against governmental entities.
00:22:00
So you know, if you even probably allude to the fact that
00:22:04
there was a revolution 300 years ago and maybe it's time for
00:22:08
another one. Maybe that might be viewed as a
00:22:11
threat against the governmental entity.
00:22:14
Memes about, I don't know, attacking the fat or something
00:22:18
like that. Which I see sometimes unlike
00:22:20
libertarian post which I still think is funny but the third c,
00:22:25
3 subsection. C 3 says disinformation or
00:22:28
misinformation including, but not limited to false or
00:22:31
misleading information regarding medicine or vaccinations false
00:22:36
or misleading information regarding elections and
00:22:38
conspiracy theories. Wow.
00:22:39
Who do you think that's geared towards?
00:22:41
Do you think that's a bipartisan?
00:22:43
Subsection there. Do you think they're going after
00:22:45
someone specifically on social media when they put that
00:22:49
language in there? Yeah, they're going after
00:22:52
everybody and sent yet and if you look like you're about to
00:22:54
say something but and like I said, this goes to the
00:22:56
Department of Justice with him. So I believe as a department is
00:23:01
just, maybe I miss speaking here, but basically with
00:23:04
whoever's in charge of the, you know, running the government,
00:23:06
the time gets to make that decision.
00:23:10
Yeah. It kind of reminds me of like
00:23:14
What was going on like on the Federal National level when, you
00:23:17
know, they basically deemed parents as you know, National
00:23:23
terrorists just because they, you know, have something to say
00:23:26
at their school board meetings and just like as far my whole
00:23:31
issue with this as well, similar sentiments.
00:23:34
Like we need to find. What is it mean?
00:23:36
You know, for hate speech and all that and basically how it
00:23:40
basically means, like just for to protect senator.
00:23:44
Senator from like all these different things, you know, I
00:23:46
just couldn't help but think about how it's usually like the
00:23:49
people that have the most to say and you know are the most you
00:23:54
know doctoral towards these things.
00:23:56
They're always like those have been difficult than negative
00:23:59
thing. People that I know like in
00:24:01
politics. I just couldn't help but think
00:24:02
about Nathan Fletcher and learn like Gonzales like how you know
00:24:07
to them, they do no wrong, they get to say whatever they want
00:24:10
and then if daresay the common folk have anything.
00:24:13
Say back to them that contradicts their agenda or
00:24:16
whatever. They're just about the meanest
00:24:19
people, both offline and online. And that's just all, I could
00:24:22
think of when as we were going through this bill.
00:24:26
So it's just basically, you know, taking the that attitude
00:24:30
and that predicament Statewide. But it's for dr.
00:24:33
Pan. Yeah, there's I just saw
00:24:37
something that I thought was also interesting is that they
00:24:39
said social media. Platform is any internet-based
00:24:42
Services made available to Residence.
00:24:44
That has generated at least 100 million dollars in gross revenue
00:24:47
during the preceding calendar year.
00:24:49
So that means it's not just Instagram Twitter.
00:24:53
All the ones are making billions but even some of these other
00:24:56
alternative social media platforms that are cropping up.
00:24:59
So like a Gap, a getter. Truth social I guess if you're
00:25:04
still not, if you register your still sitting on the waitlist
00:25:08
and your number like 500 million or something like that.
00:25:12
But yeah. I mean that this isn't just
00:25:14
against when you're on Instagram they can effectively use this
00:25:17
law, even if you're on getter or any of these other platforms
00:25:21
that advocate for more open Free Speech.
00:25:24
This California law could go after a lot of people on that
00:25:27
platform and make it very hard for these social media platforms
00:25:30
to even operate in California. Yeah, yeah.
00:25:33
And just real quick point of clarification, I was mixing up
00:25:36
some of the federal terms. So it's the Attorney General is
00:25:40
where this information would have to go to California.
00:25:43
Attorney General. Dropbox.
00:25:46
Huh. That's great.
00:25:47
Yeah. We've had a slew of really great
00:25:50
attorney general, so have any faith in any of them, but yeah,
00:25:55
this is, this one is I was looking at this one before we
00:26:00
hopped on I was doing my research for my homework before
00:26:03
this podcast. In this one, I hadn't known
00:26:07
about. I hadn't known too much about
00:26:08
but I found it and I was like this one is crazy.
00:26:11
This one is definitely 1984 ish. Control the narrative.
00:26:16
I mean this is literally this you we could just rename this
00:26:18
the ministry of Truth Bill like this is the ministry of Truth.
00:26:22
We're going to tell you what is and what is not.
00:26:25
And we're going to throw everything else.
00:26:27
We're going to memory hole all the other information or we're
00:26:29
going to punish you for daring to speak out or have a different
00:26:33
opinion. So, this one was scary.
00:26:36
Okay. Yeah.
00:26:37
And that kind of pairs with, you know, a be 2098 which we don't
00:26:40
have to go too much in depth but that one was targeting
00:26:43
Physicians over. Promoting or disseminating
00:26:46
misinformation for covid. So if you are one that says
00:26:49
cloth masks are not effective, you know, 12 months ago you can
00:26:55
then be investigated and have your licensed removing.
00:26:57
This was introduced by others with somebody different.
00:27:01
It was introduced by assembly member low Ivan.
00:27:05
Love who I believe sarcasm he is he Bay Area Ivan.
00:27:10
I always feel like a lot of these bills.
00:27:12
Just there's a good chance. It's always Authored by someone
00:27:15
from the Bay Area. Louis Bay Area.
00:27:19
Yeah, that's what I figured and Senators pan and wiener
00:27:23
co-authors and Aquila Weber the daughter of Shirley Weber who's
00:27:27
the secretary of state from down here in San Diego area.
00:27:32
But yeah, this is, this is one of those another bill that like,
00:27:35
the state can come in. Look at your records and then
00:27:38
this one says we can pull your license.
00:27:40
If you start disseminating information, that we deem
00:27:44
incorrect or anything that's misinformation or Formation on
00:27:48
covid. So, somebody like, what's his
00:27:51
name down here, in Orange county?
00:27:53
Is it Jeff? Jeff Baker, Jeff Barta Camp.
00:27:56
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:57
He's one of the most outspoken critics of covid.
00:28:01
Since the beginning, he would be like, Public Enemy.
00:28:05
Number One, under this bill. Most likely.
00:28:08
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:09
And Tracy, Tracy hug, huzzah, he's been part of studies mask
00:28:13
studies that have count contradicted.
00:28:16
The narrative The time has proven to be correct on some of
00:28:20
this, you know she's also very pro-vaccine especially on the
00:28:24
Kovac seen but she's also nuanced on the she's okay,
00:28:27
maybe. If you have a teenage boy
00:28:29
between, you know, this age and that age and I don't know what
00:28:32
it was, maybe you should only give them one dose of the
00:28:35
vaccine. And, you know, that this kind of
00:28:38
information would be targeted and she could potentially have
00:28:41
her license renewed. This feels like to have doctors
00:28:48
not be able to speak on certain subjects feels like sort of how
00:28:53
the Italian Elite did. Not like when Galileo was
00:28:57
talking about how we we orbit the Sun and not the other way
00:29:02
around and they thought that was blasphemy.
00:29:03
Like, that's so anti-science to tell doctors who are experts in
00:29:10
these fields that they can't dive into these complicated.
00:29:13
Next that are evolving and say. Nope, there's only one opinion.
00:29:18
The state has the best opinion. That's it.
00:29:21
Don't question it. And if you do, we're going to
00:29:23
take your whole livelihood that you've worked.
00:29:25
God knows how many years, 12 years to get just because you
00:29:29
decide to question the science. Yeah, it's pretty insane.
00:29:34
The good news about these last two bills is so far.
00:29:36
They don't have a Committee hearing date so hopefully that
00:29:40
don't get to see committee but will be will definitely be
00:29:44
watching them. There's a lot, it was referred
00:29:46
to businesses and business and professions committee over a
00:29:52
month ago. So, and it's just kind of
00:29:54
floundered there for a little bit, so that's good.
00:29:57
That is kind of floundering. I want to check will go back to
00:30:00
the social media where this One's hanging out.
00:30:03
It was last week, it was referred re-referred to the
00:30:07
committee on Judiciary. So we'll see, we'll follow these
00:30:13
and see where they go. But, yeah, so far the, a lot of
00:30:18
these are just sitting and committee right now, but it's
00:30:21
good to know where they're going so that we're not all taken
00:30:23
aback. And we can talk and Kind of
00:30:26
respond to our lawmakers on it, okay.
00:30:29
So what's next John? You've been a jump on the next
00:30:33
day. We can talk a little bit of that
00:30:35
committee process to because it's helpful to know.
00:30:37
So sometimes bills could you know our refer.
00:30:40
So you see if we look at actually want to go back to that
00:30:44
social media? Yeah history, you can see that
00:30:49
on 39, it was referred to the rules committee which they, you
00:30:53
know, they make the determination to work.
00:30:55
All the different committees that the bill has to go to,
00:31:00
right? So sometimes I forget a to
00:31:01
sometimes have to go to three, you know, some of these bills
00:31:03
that we're going to be talking about, they have to go to three
00:31:05
and that makes it very difficult to get through because you start
00:31:08
running out of time when you go through that when we looked at
00:31:10
that map process of having to go through all the committee's and
00:31:13
then has to go back to the other house has to go through all
00:31:16
their committees and so in that process you start running at a
00:31:20
time and so we will look at some of these bills like, you know,
00:31:22
SP 1479 or The 87 one in particular, that's a big one is
00:31:28
be 871. That's the childhood kodiaks
00:31:31
Nation one and the person removing the personal belief
00:31:33
exemption that I believe has to be heard in the health committee
00:31:38
by the end of April. And if it doesn't get hurt by
00:31:40
the end of April there, there are officially out of time
00:31:44
unless they break some rules. I wish they could do, but that
00:31:47
would mean it's likely dead if it's not heard by the end of
00:31:51
April, and the sale Connecticut, So a lot of these bills
00:31:56
California, does it in an interesting or interesting?
00:31:59
If you don't know about it? It's a lot of bills are
00:32:02
introduced right in the beginning of the year, correct?
00:32:05
So it's kind of you have this onslaught of bills that just pop
00:32:09
out of nowhere and they get introduced and they have to sort
00:32:13
of make it through the calendar year.
00:32:15
Now bills can be introduced throughout the year if I'm
00:32:19
correct as well. But they have a certain time
00:32:22
limit. Like, you're saying once they're
00:32:24
Deuce, they can't flounder. They can't take a long time.
00:32:26
They have to make it through these committees in a sort of a
00:32:29
timely manner that so that you can't just have a bill floating
00:32:32
from committee to committee. It has to get a vote on it.
00:32:35
Correct? Yeah.
00:32:37
So eventually has to go through and there's additional rules.
00:32:41
I believe you can, you can hear it at the following year before
00:32:44
it dies. So these for this year, it would
00:32:47
be dead but and even still, when they do get past generally they
00:32:51
would go, you know, the law would take place.
00:32:54
January 1st of the next year unless they have an urgency
00:32:59
Clause to it. But that would require a
00:33:01
two-thirds. I believe it's two-thirds
00:33:02
majority to hit that. So if we're gonna have to coming
00:33:06
back scenes, ready to stuff, you have a little bit of time to
00:33:08
challenge it in court. Hmm, even though there is a
00:33:12
democratic super majority which could they could, they could but
00:33:17
they're having trouble getting any of these through.
00:33:19
So so far the only one that they're going to get through a
00:33:23
single committee. He was 1479, which was on
00:33:26
Wednesday. So let's hop into that one
00:33:31
because I know you said you want to talk about that one?
00:33:33
Yeah. What's this one about?
00:33:36
Yes. A 1479 is the bill that would
00:33:39
require schools to have covid testing plans indefinitely.
00:33:45
And that they basically would have to follow the rules of
00:33:49
whoever. Cdph tells them, they have to
00:33:51
test. And the it's not clear who has
00:33:56
to pay for this, it appears that schools would have to pay for
00:34:00
this. And so, you know, some of some
00:34:02
of the resources would be cdph, California Department of Public
00:34:06
Health, but others would be the schools.
00:34:08
And so it's just at, it's basically this continuing burden
00:34:12
record could burn some requirements on schools.
00:34:14
And this continuation of just covid is going to be everywhere.
00:34:18
If we continue to test, we're going to continue to have false
00:34:21
positives. We're going to continue to have
00:34:22
Out of school at this point with vaccines available with just as
00:34:26
many people have had covid, this isn't necessary.
00:34:30
We have data from LAUSD that has, you know, they did a lot of
00:34:34
testing in the only. Good thing that came out of
00:34:36
their testing was to show that we don't need to be doing
00:34:39
testing fight. They had a point two percent
00:34:44
transmission rate amongst those at school, right?
00:34:48
So if you know you would have caught maybe, you know for 300
00:34:53
Or thousand people, your come to people from this program and
00:34:58
they spent over half a million dollars on this program so far
00:35:01
just the school year. And so you can think about all
00:35:04
of the funding all the things that we could be doing with this
00:35:07
money instead of this unnecessary testing.
00:35:13
It's interesting that they crossed out the contingent upon
00:35:16
appropriation of funds by the legislature for its purpose and
00:35:19
then they cross that out. So I guess.
00:35:23
Yeah. I thought that was interesting
00:35:24
too. So we'll see what I think it
00:35:26
again. This is the some of the
00:35:27
confusion over the funding. Yeah.
00:35:30
Funds appropriate for purposes of this section shall be used to
00:35:32
expand the State Department of Public Health.
00:35:36
Then they're Crossing out everything regarding funds and
00:35:39
all that. So if you're watching us you can
00:35:42
see There's there's stuff in red which is struck, that is stuff
00:35:47
that's been struck and then they blew is what's been amended or
00:35:52
what language has been added. So yeah, it's one of those
00:35:56
things with covid. If you test for covid all the
00:36:00
time, there's going to be covid. It's kind of like if you started
00:36:04
testing daily for the common cold every day at schools, I bet
00:36:10
you would all of a sudden. See a spike in the common cold
00:36:12
old at schools as well because there's could be Bennett.
00:36:16
Plenty of false positives. There could be, I mean, you're
00:36:19
just testing everybody all the time sooner or later you're
00:36:21
going to rack up all those numbers and I guess, they
00:36:25
believe that it's that important to set up testing sites
00:36:29
indefinitely at these schools. My two points is I think that
00:36:37
again always has to Target the kids, right?
00:36:40
But I think in general, I think we need to get back.
00:36:42
Back to normalizing that, if you're healthy, you're healthy
00:36:45
and we should just trust that you're healthy and you're going
00:36:48
to do what you need to do. And if you're sick, just stay
00:36:50
home. I don't think we should.
00:36:52
We are beyond the point of having to prove to people that
00:36:55
you're healthy and that you're okay to kind of go on with your
00:36:59
day, whether at work or school. And then my second thing is, if
00:37:04
I ever hear another person, say that kids are resilient, I'm
00:37:07
going to lose it. Oh yeah.
00:37:11
Oh yeah, yeah, it's no reason to do two kids.
00:37:16
What has been done to them for so long.
00:37:18
Arie are mass. Mass have been dropped or I'm I
00:37:22
get so lost on like the different different school
00:37:24
districts are still keeping mess.
00:37:26
San Diego. Unified is keeping Macon
00:37:28
schools. Basically indefinitely.
00:37:30
They've said we don't really plan on taking mass by know.
00:37:33
A lot of places are dropping mask requirements in schools
00:37:37
that correct? Yes.
00:37:38
Oh this State lifted, their requirement I want to say March
00:37:43
14th 15th seller on the boot of that Monday is you have March.
00:37:47
14th was the first day that the state officially a lot of and
00:37:52
every County kind of got behind that and the saying that we're
00:37:57
not going to require Master strongly recommended, but in
00:38:00
that process, you have, you know, sir school districts
00:38:03
around the state as well. We're going to keep masks, no
00:38:05
matter what, you have Oakland, which is just lifted.
00:38:09
It's outside. Just the other day, you have
00:38:12
Hayward, you know, San Diego is and windows till April Sac City
00:38:16
was indefinite and so it's just absurd.
00:38:19
It's not a, it's not a lot because even LAUSD is now
00:38:23
allowing kids to unmask indoors. So, you know, that was, you
00:38:27
know, those are the ones that are driving on a policy.
00:38:29
So it's interesting to see that they were not the last and that
00:38:33
something's other bigger, school districts are going further.
00:38:38
So someone has doesn't also say they need to expand testing for
00:38:42
contagious, infectious communicable diseases.
00:38:44
What's that about in the I think they're talking about the was
00:38:51
13. I wasn't 39 T it was With all we
00:38:59
were just talking about this. I'm trying to find the number.
00:39:04
Well, the 14th out of 1479. That's right.
00:39:06
We are just on my way. No, I mean might address that a
00:39:10
little bit, but this is primarily to covid.
00:39:12
So it's talking about making sure that you have covered
00:39:14
testing on site. And so, this is a covid bill, Do
00:39:20
you think they threw that language in there?
00:39:21
So that they gave themselves the leeway?
00:39:24
In case there's other stuff that pops up?
00:39:27
They can be like, well we have these testing sites and we can
00:39:29
start the test for other communicable diseases.
00:39:32
Like I feel like that's the way lawmakers do it is they kind of
00:39:35
leave stuff open. So that down the road because a
00:39:38
lot of this is drafted by lawyers anyway, down the road.
00:39:41
It's, it could be interpreted to do what they want it to do.
00:39:44
It's not so open and shut. Yeah, that's possible, Right?
00:39:48
You create this connection. Testing plans in place and
00:39:50
they're like, oh well now we're going to start testing from the
00:39:53
flu. Oh, now we're going to start
00:39:54
testing for this next thing. You know, the school, you know,
00:39:57
half the schools budget is just testing for communicable
00:40:00
diseases. Lauren Springer libertarian,
00:40:05
party. San Diego libertarian party.
00:40:07
In the house, says SD, you San Diego unified or SD USD.
00:40:13
I don't why I'm tripping over. My words is dropping the Mandate
00:40:16
on Monday, so that's good news. All right, next up, Cynthia,
00:40:22
your choice. Let's see.
00:40:31
Do we have SB 1464? Yes.
00:40:39
Oh, before we hop onto that one. Let's double-check the history
00:40:42
of where has to be 1479 is as of 321 from committee with authors,
00:40:47
amendments, read second time and amended where you refer to
00:40:50
committee on health. So there you go that's where it
00:40:53
is right now. Still down through this is not
00:40:55
up to date. Actually.
00:40:58
Okay yeah, this is not up to date.
00:40:59
So this is 1479 was the one we just have this hearing.
00:41:03
We had a doctor speak. We have a school board speak.
00:41:06
If you go to reopen California schools face, Look, you can see
00:41:10
some of those videos of the school board talking about this.
00:41:13
There were, I want to say, like nine or eight organizations that
00:41:17
spoken favor, one of them obviously is a testing company.
00:41:20
One of them was panned, special interest group, protect us.
00:41:23
There are 11 different organizations that were against
00:41:26
it in like, 300 individuals were against it.
00:41:29
And then, on the day of the hearing, you had the two
00:41:32
witnesses and then just I think like, I'm not a single parent
00:41:36
just organization. So just those nine organizations
00:41:38
go Cut hundreds of people either showed up or called in to the
00:41:43
hearing to pose. It didn't matter, they still
00:41:46
passed it 722. Well, yep, pretty much on party
00:41:50
lines. So, so now it's past the health
00:41:54
committee and is going to be going to the education
00:41:55
committee. And my understanding is that is
00:41:58
going to be the last week of April or the third week of
00:42:03
Chicago, my dates here. Maybe the 20th, I think might be
00:42:09
on the 20th of April somewhere around.
00:42:10
There is when the this is going to be heard and the education
00:42:15
committee, Samples and be a big - April's a big month for a lot
00:42:20
of this is so get your phone's ready.
00:42:22
Get your template ready to send to your assembly, man.
00:42:26
Set state. Senator is going to be a lot of,
00:42:29
you know, a lot of voicing your opinion in April.
00:42:32
So that's that, you know, not just yourself but get group.
00:42:36
So, get your school board, get your county representative, get
00:42:39
your city council, to draft letters, and right opposition.
00:42:43
Letters to these bills, and they can do it today.
00:42:45
They don't have to Wait until the hearing, the more opposition
00:42:48
bills are the more opposition leaders that get the better and
00:42:51
and coming from organizations and coming from, you know, left
00:42:54
two governments are helpful than just an individual, sending a
00:42:58
letter to send your stew and get organizations to submit the
00:43:02
letters as well. Yeah.
00:43:05
So Cynthia you want to jump on? SB 1464, correct.
00:43:11
That's correct. So this is the one where it Is
00:43:16
the sheriff to enforce all orders of the State Department
00:43:19
of Public Health or of a local Health official.
00:43:24
So these and when we say, you know, local Health officer,
00:43:28
these are unelected. So in general, I officially have
00:43:32
trust issues whenever people say public health because we don't
00:43:37
know what that is anymore. But this is concerning to me
00:43:41
because, you know, we are in. California is no surprise.
00:43:45
Rise that like as far as most counties as far as elected
00:43:49
officials and, you know, our audiences are things that nature
00:43:51
is mostly Democrat run. So that being said, it does
00:43:55
bring to question, you know, some other concerns like we
00:43:59
should be also looking at who's the sheriff, because if there's
00:44:02
a Sheriff, that is for We the People For Freedom, you should
00:44:06
be fine, but if you're not, you know, this is something, you
00:44:09
know, to be concerned about. So although like, you know, the
00:44:15
mandates. For the most part, you know, are
00:44:17
pretty much over the fact that they want to make this into a
00:44:22
law. They're basically previewing it
00:44:25
to like, if something like this happens again, they have the
00:44:27
ability to be able to enforce it in the future.
00:44:30
So it's like, you know, for thinking long-term, you know,
00:44:34
beyond these two years because they are right now this is
00:44:38
something, you know, to be concerned by and we did see a
00:44:42
lot of great Sheriff's in different counties stand up and
00:44:45
say Hey, we're not going to be going door-to-door and forcing
00:44:48
mandates or things of that nature of businesses.
00:44:51
You know, there was a moment in these past years where they had
00:44:54
curfews like and that impacted small businesses.
00:44:59
And there were some counties that really took advantage and
00:45:02
leverage their Sheriff's to go. Enforce that unfortunately there
00:45:05
was a lot of Sheriff's. I give a lot of credit for that
00:45:08
said they weren't going to utilize those resources and not
00:45:10
sewer it in that way, but it is very concerning that they're
00:45:15
looking. Looking to make that element
00:45:17
into law here in California. It seems and if you're starting
00:45:24
to see the pattern you're not crazy.
00:45:28
It seems a lot of these bills are very much if you don't agree
00:45:32
with the state we're going to punish you.
00:45:36
Basically, from this bill to the Social Media, bill, to the
00:45:41
doctors and medical licenses bill.
00:45:43
It's very much if you don't agree with us, the state's going
00:45:46
to come in and punish you for some reason.
00:45:51
And I could imagine why. The, the left has Weaponized
00:45:58
this idea of a top-down Authority and I believe that
00:46:03
they are. They hate federalism.
00:46:07
They hate the idea that our nation and its Power Balance was
00:46:12
created, so that there can be pushed back.
00:46:15
There can be resistance. There could be little pockets
00:46:17
that say we don't want to participate in what you're
00:46:20
doing, because that's how it was supposed to be the pockets of
00:46:24
power. We're supposed to be dispersed
00:46:26
across the Country. So you couldn't have this.
00:46:30
Sort of one-man rule, or top-down Rule, and this is just
00:46:35
a perfect. Another good example, that, if
00:46:37
the sheriff, who is elected of your county says, I'm not going
00:46:42
to listen to this because I'm Bound by the Constitution there.
00:46:46
Now, punishing ain't that sheriff, and saying, we're going
00:46:48
to remove your your funds and that those funds.
00:46:52
This one kind of makes me laugh. So they'll hold funds from the
00:46:55
law enforcement agency, And then take those funds that they're
00:47:00
withholding and give it to the public health department in your
00:47:04
county. Yeah, right.
00:47:07
It's basically it's as well. If the sheriff isn't going to be
00:47:09
enforcing the public health rules, then, we'll give to the
00:47:12
public health entity and make that let them enforce it with
00:47:14
the funds. I guess is where they're going.
00:47:16
So they're going to hire, you know, their own agents to come
00:47:20
in and making sure that people are wearing masks, but that
00:47:22
people are staying in their homes or their not having more
00:47:26
than three guests in the house during Christmas.
00:47:28
You know, it's just very interesting to see what they
00:47:30
plan on doing but I have some very interesting news on this
00:47:34
one as well. So this is not recorded, is that
00:47:37
was a breaking news or anything, but it's unreported.
00:47:40
So the opposite again, for all these bills ahead of time, we've
00:47:44
got you have about a week before their heard.
00:47:47
There's like a deadline, that's a seven days before the
00:47:49
committee. You have to submit your
00:47:50
opposition letters or your support letters.
00:47:53
This bill only has to support Runners.
00:47:56
One of them is pans, she'll group, protect us, you're going
00:48:00
to be coming up quite a bit. We expect that group to be
00:48:04
submitting. These letters is basically
00:48:05
paint. And submitting a support letter
00:48:07
to his own bill. Then you have this, this other
00:48:10
group, that's called the health Officers, Association of
00:48:16
California, The Helpful. So, hope officers of California
00:48:19
Association. I'm not sure the porter there,
00:48:21
but that organization is made up of members, which come from the
00:48:26
counties and cities the sixth. I think there are 61 different
00:48:29
Health departments. We have the 58 counties, plus
00:48:31
three different cities, have their own health departments
00:48:34
other, the members of this and So I'm still trying to get an
00:48:37
understanding of where this funny, but I believe these
00:48:39
Health Department. So our tax dollars are local tax
00:48:42
dollars are funding these local Health Department.
00:48:43
Some of our state money is to, then they're deciding to spend
00:48:48
those tax dollars on these on this membership group.
00:48:51
This membership group, then is actually a political group whose
00:48:54
submitting, you know, opposition or support letters.
00:48:58
And in this case they're supporting this bill.
00:49:01
So our tax dollars are going to support an organization.
00:49:04
You know an organization that 14 taking away our rights away and
00:49:08
so it's very interesting to see this whole process and where the
00:49:10
money comes from. But those are the only two
00:49:13
organizations in support. There's I want to say there's 30
00:49:16
or so including a lot of law enforcement agencies that are
00:49:20
against it. And when we get the full Bill
00:49:21
analysis before by the end of the week, we should see how many
00:49:24
individuals opposed as well. So it's what's your prediction
00:49:31
of what's going to happen to this bill?
00:49:35
Let me see that. The office.
00:49:36
So pant is the sole author on this and it is being heard.
00:49:40
In what committee is it being heard in my history is not
00:49:49
working yours. I can't see her your screen
00:49:51
there every refer to committee on Health on the 2000, so it's
00:49:56
going to health. So that's interesting.
00:49:57
So he's the chair of that committee there.
00:49:59
That's the same community that just passed 1479 to me.
00:50:03
This is pretty controversial. And so what what I would expect,
00:50:10
I don't know. It's hard to see what's
00:50:11
happened. They just passed it 1479 so I'm
00:50:15
hopeful that they'll maybe he'll pull it.
00:50:18
I'm hopeful that maybe they pass this down or maybe they'll want
00:50:21
some sort of amendment first, but I'm not liking this one and
00:50:26
we need to make sure that it's next into hearing is next
00:50:29
Wednesday. Yes, I don't know the time but
00:50:32
it is. Next Wednesday is when this one
00:50:33
is gonna be her. So definitely be ready to Call
00:50:35
it on this one that a 50-50 at this point.
00:50:41
Yeah, I would think that a lot of law enforcement groups and
00:50:43
unions are are likely against this.
00:50:46
And there's probably a good chance that you're going to see
00:50:50
some as some opposition from those groups.
00:50:54
And if it doesn't have that much support, now it probably is
00:50:59
slowly dying on the vine. Hopefully, it slowly dying on
00:51:02
the vine but doesn't sound like it's in good shape right now.
00:51:06
Yeah, it would be nice to see what happens 1983. 1993 that one
00:51:12
that was pulled by Wix that had. I want to say four organizations
00:51:18
in support, of course, one of which was protect us.
00:51:23
It had 86 organizations against it and over 1 people against
00:51:29
it. So that I've it's just there's
00:51:33
so much opposition to that bill, this one.
00:51:35
Again, it has more than what we saw for 1479 which is the
00:51:39
testing bill. Definitely a lot more, but it
00:51:42
wasn't to the extent that 1993 was and pan is I think a little
00:51:46
bit more. Stubborn maybe on some of this
00:51:51
stuff and he's not going to do you think she has a chance to
00:51:54
get any of his bills through? He's going to try to do it.
00:51:58
Whereas Wicks maybe took a little bit more conservative
00:52:00
approach and says you know what, I'm not going to risk it will
00:52:02
just pull it you know? So next well I think this is one
00:52:07
of the more controversial ones is SB. 871 is this?
00:52:12
Yeah, the last one we had on our list I think to so just so the
00:52:16
audience is aware Senator pan is in his last term.
00:52:20
As a senator. So, you know, he's always been
00:52:22
very important but he definitely does not care about re-election.
00:52:25
So, just so everyone is aware. This is the last year.
00:52:28
He does not care at all. Well, well, he cares about
00:52:31
something. There's something that we look
00:52:33
at this. Protect us group.
00:52:35
He has three open committees right now.
00:52:37
Including I think one was for controller for 2022.
00:52:40
He had another committee for another race for 2022.
00:52:42
And he still at these still fundraising for his 2018, Senate
00:52:46
committee. So he's doing something, I just
00:52:49
don't know what it is. Is and the more he raises money,
00:52:53
the more he specially gets donations from special interest
00:52:55
groups of the more I'm concerned.
00:52:58
So yes, he's not going to be a state legislature as legislator
00:53:01
anymore, but he could still very much be involved in politics and
00:53:04
actually scares. Yeah, they do get rehashed,
00:53:10
loyalists, who walk the oh, dude.
00:53:13
Oh good job. Usually, get rehashed in
00:53:15
California. I mean, look, just look at Gavin
00:53:18
Newsom. He went from A supervisor up the
00:53:21
governor because he told the party line and played ball,
00:53:26
maybe Richard pans going to run for governor and I just threw up
00:53:29
in my mouth a little bit. Just you know what you might be
00:53:34
right? And for years maybe he will it
00:53:38
will be interesting. This is a little off topic but
00:53:41
it I think that's one reason we haven't seen a lot of big names
00:53:45
jump in and opposition of Gavin. Newsom this year is I think
00:53:49
People are just waiting for Gavin.
00:53:51
Newsom to finish a second term, clear the field and see where
00:53:55
they can go. Because he's such a Powerhouse
00:53:59
and it'll be interesting to see who tries to pick up his mantle,
00:54:03
because I can't think of a big-name Democrat outside of
00:54:07
Gavin. Newsom, who would have Governor
00:54:09
sort of pole and in California? Yeah, I don't know either, but
00:54:16
the ones that come to mind are the scariest ones.
00:54:19
So, I don't want any that's right now.
00:54:23
I definitely don't want to think about like Senator weiner
00:54:25
running for governor. I would be like well so Arizona,
00:54:30
we're all going to Arizona but so this bill SB 871 is regarding
00:54:41
the use of the next. Yeah, childhood vaccinations for
00:54:43
covid and then there's a few other amendments that impact any
00:54:47
vaccinations, right? So this was the One.
00:54:50
Yeah I see this one pop up a lot in a lot of Parental groups are
00:54:53
groups who are focused on this stuff.
00:54:57
You would have to be vaccinated against covid-19 to attend
00:55:00
schools that correct. Yes.
00:55:03
So the intent behind this is, there's a couple things at us
00:55:06
and which let's don't talk about kind of little bit where we're
00:55:09
at now. So back in October Newsom, said
00:55:14
that he was going to be mandating.
00:55:16
The covid-19 vaccine to assist attend school starting.
00:55:19
I think was next school year. And it'd be the 12 year olds and
00:55:21
older. Pending the full FDA approval
00:55:25
for for 12 years, for truck for kids, 12 and older.
00:55:29
The, he's actually allowed to do that under.
00:55:32
Well, the California Department of Public Health is allowed to
00:55:34
do that under existing law. So they can say and it's in this
00:55:39
health and safety code. That says it's got the
00:55:42
California Department Public if they if they determine that we
00:55:45
need to have another vaccine for school.
00:55:47
They can do it. However if It is done that way.
00:55:51
There must be a personal belief exemption.
00:55:54
So any parent would be able to fill that out and schools will
00:55:57
have to do that and that's kind of the Crux of why San Diego
00:56:00
lost. Their lawsuit was because they
00:56:03
don't want they don't have the authority to do it as an
00:56:04
individual School District to even if they did or going to,
00:56:07
even if they could state law says that you have to have a
00:56:10
personal belief exemption as it is today.
00:56:12
So one of the things that pan wants to do is remove that
00:56:14
personal belief exemption, so any vaccine that cdph would want
00:56:18
to come up with in the future. There would be no exception you
00:56:21
just have to do it could be they could come up with it tomorrow
00:56:25
and make up an excuse for it and they would they would have to do
00:56:28
it and you have to your kids enough to get it to go to
00:56:30
school. It also specifically calls out
00:56:33
covid-19 on this list so you can would have to get the covid-19
00:56:36
vaccine and it splits it even interesting, it doesn't even
00:56:40
wait till full FDA approval. It says kids as young as five
00:56:43
and it doesn't matter that it's emergency use authorization
00:56:45
right now. Kids as young as five would have
00:56:47
to be vaccinated against covid to attend in person School And
00:56:50
includes private in person School includes public in person
00:56:53
school and Charters. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:57
So right here, this bill would repeal the provision.
00:56:59
Thereby removing the personal belief, exemption for any
00:57:02
additional immunity immunization requirements, deemed
00:57:05
appropriate, by the department. I feel like that's gotta be ripe
00:57:11
for a legal challenge. I'm assuming somebody is going
00:57:16
to sue over this. That you can't repeal a personal
00:57:19
belief. And there are lawsuits on
00:57:22
religious exemptions right now. I don't I don't know what they
00:57:24
are and they're not in our. I think there might be one from
00:57:27
our state but there are some that might make their way up to
00:57:28
the Supreme Court, but the personal belief exemption isn't
00:57:32
probably the one area that you'd sue people might Sue over
00:57:34
religious. They would also just see the
00:57:36
fact that hey I had proved you know that's enough of an
00:57:40
immunization I should be qualified.
00:57:42
So becomes very, you know, how do you manage all the okay now?
00:57:45
So let me simply record. Okay, let me submit your your
00:57:47
antibody testing. Like, what do you want to do as
00:57:49
a parent? And it's going to be incredibly
00:57:52
burdensome for schools. Generally, you know there's
00:57:55
different age groups that which kids have to get the vaccines
00:57:58
and so when a school does is they do it over the summer.
00:58:00
They collect their vaccine information and it's only for
00:58:04
the incoming students. It's not every student in the
00:58:08
school. And what we're seeing is that
00:58:10
with the covid-19 vaccine only of kids, 10:55 only about one
00:58:15
third of kids, 10:55 have been vaccinated.
00:58:17
So that gives you an idea about how parents Feel about the
00:58:21
covid-19 vaccine, right? They're not very enthusiastic
00:58:24
about it. So we saw massive protests in
00:58:28
October. There's 4 people at the
00:58:30
Capitol just protesting newsom's mandate which allowed for the
00:58:33
personal exemption. You know, there's parents and
00:58:36
their school districts that are writing an opposition as is we
00:58:39
will be completely gutted if we this bill passes because half of
00:58:44
our kids are just going to leave.
00:58:45
Yeah I'll be a boon for private schools.
00:58:50
And parochial schools. So that's always good.
00:58:54
You're definitely seeing that rebound of people looking for.
00:58:57
It was interesting seeing how fast people would try again, a
00:59:00
private schools and parochial schools or schools that were
00:59:03
reopening because Public Schools were not reopening and the rush
00:59:08
of people trying to get into them at the last minute.
00:59:11
So may have changed a lot of people's minds on the idea of
00:59:15
school choice and Not always sending their kids to public
00:59:19
school. Cynthia.
00:59:20
Do you have any? But I didn't want to leave you
00:59:23
out the ebony comments on this particular Bill and again going
00:59:29
after children. No, I think if this was the last
00:59:34
bill on our list, I did want to have a very, we're coming up on
00:59:38
our. But really wanted to have a very
00:59:40
quick discussion about thinking long-term because obviously it's
00:59:43
productive and we're being active, participants that our
00:59:46
government and being good citizens of our state, you know,
00:59:49
being watch dogs. But the best way we can combat.
00:59:53
This is thinking long-term and flipping seats to Republican in
00:59:58
the state legislature. So, I know we tossed around like
01:00:03
Democrat majority and whatnot area.
01:00:07
Don't forget about our libertarian brothers and
01:00:09
sisters, they'll their part of the fight too.
01:00:11
So yeah, but I think, you know, we tossed on Democrat majority a
01:00:17
lot because obviously there is majority Democrat elected
01:00:21
officials in there but there's a difference between that and then
01:00:24
saying we have a veto-proof supermajority.
01:00:26
So basically you know when we're talking about these bills were
01:00:30
Seeing how these bills passed in the committee with 72, whatever.
01:00:35
There's mostly Democrats saying all these committees and
01:00:37
obviously, you know, for those who don't know, if you are
01:00:40
elected to legislature of your assigned to committees, but if
01:00:45
we have more Republicans that are liked in there, you know
01:00:48
that will help you know, increase the numbers on there.
01:00:51
So when it comes time to vote in the committee, it's not you know
01:00:55
outnumbered. So I definitely, you know, want
01:01:00
to put in That plug because we do have primaries coming up and
01:01:03
we're getting mail in ballots because of bills passed in the
01:01:06
legislature. They're gonna get, everyone's
01:01:09
going to get mailed. A ballot May 9th and primaries
01:01:11
or June. So, if you have a republican
01:01:14
running in state assembly vote for them.
01:01:20
Yeah, it is. I mean if you want to get really
01:01:23
wonky it does make a difference when you start to balance the
01:01:27
power a little bit more because As you were as we've seen with
01:01:33
all these bills, there's a lot of work that goes in these
01:01:35
committees. There's a lot of back and forth
01:01:37
that goes a lot of politicking that happens in these
01:01:40
committees. So even even ate out the numbers
01:01:43
on these committees can make a huge difference in whether these
01:01:46
bills live or die because it's not so much like.
01:01:51
Poor, Senator Menendez, Melinda is one of two Republicans on a
01:01:56
committee and she's completely out.
01:01:58
Fotage to Republicans versus Democrats.
01:02:02
And if you make it a little bit more, even strategically and
01:02:05
politicking wise, it does make a difference of.
01:02:08
Well, you're not going to have a slam-dunk every single time and
01:02:12
maybe it does a controversial bill doesn't get through because
01:02:16
maybe there aren't enough votes, and maybe there are some
01:02:18
Democrats from certain districts who are like, I don't want to
01:02:21
attach my name to this. Maybe I'll abstain from this and
01:02:24
then all of a sudden they don't have the votes to pass.
01:02:27
So, there is a huge. I mean, Is one of those reasons
01:02:31
why we always say? We got to talk about flipping
01:02:33
the legislature, that's the biggest thing if you want to
01:02:36
stop the kookiness and craziness here in California, you got to
01:02:40
flip the legislature and you got to balance out the legislature
01:02:43
one more thing before we kind of do, keep talking about this.
01:02:49
The history of SB 871 is, as of 224 referral to committee on
01:02:56
Judiciary, rescinded. Because of the limitations
01:02:58
placed on committee hearings do, too.
01:03:00
Ongoing health and safety risks of the covid-19 virus.
01:03:04
So just I don't I'm not sure what that means.
01:03:13
We lost your. We can't hear you, sorry.
01:03:15
So sorry. That's very interesting comment
01:03:18
there because I would think that this is a very important bill to
01:03:21
go to Judiciary because of some of those legal challenges that
01:03:24
might come up but maybe it's just at a time.
01:03:27
Maybe it's the when they looked at the Judiciary and their
01:03:30
gender, their like a, which things really need to be in
01:03:32
judiciary and it started going through that list and say, we're
01:03:34
not going to hear everything because, you know, limit
01:03:37
covid-19, it is very funny. When I was at the hearing on
01:03:40
Wednesday, I was There in person, but they limit the
01:03:44
number of people that go into the hearing room and they have
01:03:48
very, I mean, it was like a ten percent capacity that because
01:03:51
the idea is that they want to maintain social distancing.
01:03:53
They actually have all these seats with with, you know,
01:03:57
pieces of paper on this. They maintain social distance.
01:04:00
You get to sit in a seat that doesn't have a piece of paper on
01:04:03
it. Well, while that happens, they
01:04:05
had dozens of people, probably, I want to say 30 or 40 people in
01:04:08
the hallway crammed together, shoulder to shoulder.
01:04:12
Waiting to get in as opposed to just sitting in a seat in the
01:04:15
committee. So it's very interesting this
01:04:18
semantics that go on there, not semantics the charade, I guess
01:04:21
is the right word that's happening.
01:04:24
So I don't know really what that issue is with the Judiciary
01:04:26
Committee. Maybe it's a particular member
01:04:29
Carrie. You nose is calling the shots.
01:04:33
No pain, no pun intended for the for that committee.
01:04:40
Yeah. So just to round it out like
01:04:43
we're saying we are coming up on the air.
01:04:45
I'm sure we could go through bills and bills and bills all
01:04:47
night long. Everything that's going on in
01:04:50
California. It is a little crazy.
01:04:53
But again this is an I'm going to beat this drum and I'm going
01:04:56
to say it time and time again and till people start to listen
01:05:00
to me. The state legislature is the
01:05:03
fight in California, that is the fight and I know a lot of people
01:05:07
always ask me You know, who do we support for governor, who's
01:05:10
running for governor? Do we have a chance at winning
01:05:12
governor? And my answer is no.
01:05:14
We don't have a chance at winning Governor.
01:05:15
So, stop focusing on governor and start focusing on State
01:05:18
Legislature. Like seriously, stop focusing on
01:05:21
Governor because even if by some hail Mary miraculous occurrence
01:05:26
or something that fell out of the sky and we got a republican
01:05:29
Governor, it wouldn't change anything, it wouldn't change
01:05:34
because you still have a democratic super majority, which
01:05:36
can Ram bills through and they're still a 80 proof
01:05:38
majority. So you're still going to get
01:05:41
these crazy bills and they'll keep doing what they're doing.
01:05:44
You have to almost marginalize these Bay Area, politicians who
01:05:50
run the party because they know they have the support.
01:05:54
They know they have two-thirds of their respective houses, they
01:05:57
can just come up with these crazy bills.
01:06:00
They know that there's going to be plenty of Democrats to vote
01:06:02
for them and that's it. If you start to dwindle those
01:06:05
numbers, those Bay Area politicians.
01:06:07
Stop. In California so much, so, and
01:06:12
I'll just let one last plug on that is School Board races.
01:06:14
Those make a difference. So a lot of times we are told
01:06:17
oh, we have to follow the state rules, we can't do this well one
01:06:21
month before the new, some lift to the mask mandate, there was a
01:06:23
high school, Roseville joint Union, High School District that
01:06:26
voted to lift the mask mandate and that started as movement of
01:06:29
all these different schools. That did the thing, which
01:06:32
ultimately put the pressure on you, some to lift it when he did
01:06:36
and lift up without any restrictions.
01:06:39
So there's a lot of power of local government including
01:06:41
school board. So, those races can make a big
01:06:43
difference. Yeah, it's yeah.
01:06:48
And I think the silver lining of covid is that people did really
01:06:52
see how Much, their local politicians do have an effect on
01:06:59
their daily lives, especially School Board.
01:07:01
I think people thought school board was sort of boring.
01:07:03
They talked about, who knows what nonsense, you know,
01:07:07
homecoming and all that stuff. But now I think people are
01:07:12
starting to see how much power school board does have.
01:07:15
And I've heard from some of some people who follow me they say,
01:07:19
yeah I'm going to run for school board based on what you told me
01:07:23
and that running for local office is the best way to make a
01:07:26
choice. sounds like, Yeah, that's what you got to do.
01:07:30
Even down to school board, down to dog.
01:07:32
Catcher it all makes a difference, Cynthia.
01:07:36
I didn't know if you want to add any more if you had any more
01:07:39
thoughts. My last plug is similar to a
01:07:44
Jonathan said school board's important.
01:07:46
I know in San Diego. We have, you know, a coalition
01:07:49
up, his name's Andrew Hayes. He's a Lakeside School Board,
01:07:53
member many, founded a local Coalition here in San Diego.
01:07:57
It's made up of school board members here in San Diego.
01:08:00
They are basically trying to push back against Governor Gavin
01:08:03
Newsom, and I became for local control because they recognize
01:08:08
that. Yeah, the Mandate is lifted.
01:08:10
Wink wink. But you know, the language of it
01:08:13
is very nuanced and very confusing.
01:08:16
It basically is the door open like at any point because
01:08:18
California is still in a state of emergency, who's to say that,
01:08:22
you know, things can go back and forth about which we've seen it
01:08:26
happen before where, you know, mines get changed and decide to
01:08:30
do different things. So that would be my plug School
01:08:34
boards are an important race. So, I know it is, you know, at
01:08:39
large and low, We'll race. So I think, you know, depending
01:08:42
on your calendar, there is still time to consider running.
01:08:45
So I definitely encourage the audience to look into that or at
01:08:48
least know who your school board members are and see if they're,
01:08:51
you know, working in the best interest of families and
01:08:54
parents. Lauren on to add one more
01:08:58
comment nullification doesn't only work on the federal level.
01:09:02
Local areas can nullify State tyranny.
01:09:04
So, that's sort of what I was saying about.
01:09:06
I've said this before in California, such a big state.
01:09:09
You could insulate yourself from the craziness of Sacramento,
01:09:14
with a good County Supervisor board with good City, Council
01:09:18
Members, good school boards, and you can kind of push away
01:09:21
Sacramento and say we're not really going to deal with you,
01:09:24
or we're just not going to listen to.
01:09:25
To you. So with that, we've gone over
01:09:29
about an hour. It's a, it was a great
01:09:31
discussion John, thank you for hopping in at the last minute.
01:09:35
I know. We kind of asked you and you
01:09:37
met, you came prepared. You were ready to go.
01:09:39
So I you know, your stuff and Cynthia, always recommends,
01:09:43
really good people. That's why I go to her first.
01:09:45
I'm like, I'm like, I have an idea for a show.
01:09:47
Who should we bring on? Says bring on Jonathan, so here
01:09:52
you are. Thank you for.
01:09:53
Thank you for hopping it. The last minute.
01:09:55
A problem. Yeah, these are important issues
01:09:57
and we've been tracking these with, there's a lot of different
01:09:59
groups involved, you can get involved.
01:10:01
And so it's, you know, it's it takes a move, it takes a village
01:10:05
and yes to track track these things.
01:10:08
And so where can people get involved with what you're doing
01:10:11
and follow your activities because you're pretty busy in
01:10:14
this fear and how can they get involved?
01:10:17
Support you and support your efforts.
01:10:19
Yeah, so there's a right now on Facebook, it's reopen,
01:10:22
California schools and on Twitter.
01:10:24
It's Reopen CA schools, and you can also find my me on my
01:10:29
personal Twitter account, which way I can touch on more things
01:10:33
other than education related items and that's at Jay's a
01:10:37
person. So, at Jay-Z ACH, re s0n
01:10:42
Awesome. And Cynthia, would you like to
01:10:45
plug away for where people can find you and listen to your
01:10:48
thoughts? Sure.
01:10:50
So have a great time with both of my great friends, so it was a
01:10:54
great conversation and thank you.
01:10:55
Jonathan. Again, for hopping on
01:10:57
last-minute, this podcast went in a very great Direction.
01:11:02
I knew it was going to be great, but it was even better than I
01:11:04
expected. So thank you again.
01:11:06
So you can find me on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.
01:11:10
You can just type in my name. It's not very common, so that's
01:11:13
great. So Cynthia Cowie so
01:11:16
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01:11:23
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