On this episode I am joined by June Cutter who is running for the 76th Assembly District.
We discuss her plans when she gets to the Assembly, what an Assembly member does, and how California Republicans need to win by addition.
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podcast. Alright, welcome back, everyone.
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Thanks for tuning in to another episode of California
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underground podcast. Today, I have with me a
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colleague and friend of mine, dream cutter is running.
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Then for the 76 Assembly District, I have to remember
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because it's switched and we're going to talk about that in a
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little bit. We're going to talk about, what
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does the assembly member really do?
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Which I think is important for people to know as well and as
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well as her past race and all that stuff.
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So June. Welcome to the program.
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Hi everyone. And thank you fell, for inviting
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me to come on your podcast. I feel so honored to be here.
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Yeah, Shucks yet, you're you're making me blush.
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So let's get started right off the bat.
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This is like a pretty recent announcement like just a couple
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weeks. You just kind of decided to hop
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into the race and explain what happened with like the 77th and
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the 76 they got redrawn redistricting and does that
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benefit? You does it help your race?
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Like talk about that a little bit, right?
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So I believe the lines were finalized on December 27th.
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And I announced or officially launched my campaign on January
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3rd, which was 10 days ago, so it hasn't been very long but I
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did run for assembly last cycle against the same Democratic
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opponent. So, in some ways it feels like I
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never stopped and this is a continuation of the 2020
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campaign. And if there was any part of me
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who that wished, maybe we had more time Now, I have 10 more
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months to go and win this race. So is there anything beneficial
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about the new redistricting that helps you out?
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Or makes it more benefit but like a better Race For You in
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numbers wise? Yeah so the lines in the new 76
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District are. Okay, so rewinding, the district
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that I ran in last cycle was called 77 but with redistricting
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it is now the newly drawn 76 Assembly District and on
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election day in November 20, 20 The Democrat registration had a
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ten-point advantage. And now, in the newly drawn
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District the Democrat registration Advantage is only
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0.3 and the numbers are a little bit deceptive in that sure,
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there's more registered Democrats in that District, but
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Republican turnout is much higher.
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So, if you look at actual turn out, it's a red district.
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And if you look at Registration numbers.
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It's a blue District. So it's a definite swing
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District. Definitely purple and top Target
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for the California Republican party this year.
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So, you would mention, you had already run against this
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particular opponent. Brian, I don't know how to say
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his last name. My, my, my asshai nahan or
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something like that, but he, it's funny you mention that it's
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kind of like a purple District, was a red District.
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I was actually looking on ballot.
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A pedia. He's kind of History.
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He was a republican up until 2018 and I switched and now he's
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a Democrat. And his whole thing was I just
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don't like Donald Trump. I don't like where he's taking
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the Republican party and I've also changed as well, so he was
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Republican for all these years when the district is probably a
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little bit better but as soon as this maybe starts to get a
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little bit more purple, he turned into a Democrat, right?
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So that's kind of like the whole back story of why I ended up
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running against him last cycle. So long term Republican, he was
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a city councilman, he ran for City attorney and he Was a State
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Assembly member for about eight years at the time and he had
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been a republican the whole time.
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He was a republican Hometown, kid from Poway and had been
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running as a republican in one officer.
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Another for two decades and then in 2018 in November he got
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re-elected to the State Assembly as a Republican and had run as a
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republican made no like Absolute.
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Nobody knew that he was going to switch parties and we elected
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him and 42 days later, 42 days after the voters of his district
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elected him as a republican, he switched parties.
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So a lot of people feel like he should have done that before
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election day, but it is what it is and he had a million dollars
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that he had in his coffers that he raised as a republican.
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He switched flipped and became a Democrat and contributed some of
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that money over to the San Diego Democrat Party.
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And it left people very upset including myself and I thought
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that somebody needed to go and run against him and ultimately
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the discussion turned to Why don't you do it?
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And for some crazy reason I was like, okay I'll do it.
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I'll go and run against him and give him a run for his money and
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take him out. But 2020 wasn't the best year
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for San Diego, Republicans, as you know, but I feared pretty
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decent All Things Considered and now the tides have turned and
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it's 2022. And I think the time has come
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for us to win this race. So going back to your previous
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Previous race against Brian. Looking back.
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Now that you're starting a new race, is there, a lot of lessons
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you took from that last race as their stuff you've learned are
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there may be some mistakes or anything that you're not going
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to try and do this. I like, what's the learning
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process for people out there who are interested in running for
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office? That?
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Sometimes, it does take like a racer to to get it accomplished.
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Like there's plenty of good politicians.
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I know who lost their first race won.
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Their second. Praise.
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After they got their name out there.
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So are there a lot any lessons you're taking from your last
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race in writing you this right now?
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When you say that, they got their name out there.
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I think that's one of the most important things.
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It was really an uphill battle to challenge somebody in their
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Hometown. While they've been on the ballot
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for 20 years in the Name ID like I just felt like it was a really
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big obstacle to overcome. So this time around I'm very
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thankful to have built Name ID in The District in the community
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and just been such a vocal Advocate especially as a mom of
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school-age kids over the last several years that I think that
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gives us an automatic advantage over where we started in the
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2020 cycle. So that coupled with a few
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things that I've learned, I think that we definitely focused
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on a lot of things that were more traditional campaigning the
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first time around and as a First-time candidate.
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You are, I guess, bombarded with everyone.
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Whose opinions and everyone who's been are all around a lot
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longer than you wants to tell you how to do it.
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And I feel like having been in politics for several years now
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and having not only worked on my campaign, but other candidates
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campaigns over the last year, as well.
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I have a better sense of what I feel like, in my gut is the
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right thing to do. And I think that after the pan
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Endemic and seeing how 2021 and seeing how people are kind of
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living their lives. Now, and more of a digital age,
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I have a better understanding of where we all as candidates need
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to Pivot and adapt with the times, and how we reach voters
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isn't the same as it was for 5-10 years ago.
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Yeah, the side note. You know, I was looking before
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we hopped on here, at one of the bills that Brian had voted on,
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there's a bill that they Voted on two for California, the state
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of California, not Congress or anything to investigate the
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January 6. So that if that gives you an
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idea of what Brian is doing. With this important time, those
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are the votes. These castings somehow
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California should be looking into what happened in January,
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6th, very important spending of resources and time of our
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legislators. So, speaking of how Brian is
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wasting his time as the legislature legislator Can you
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explain a little bit about what an assembly person does in this,
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the state legislature of California?
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I know, it sounds like a basic question to you, but people who
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are listening may not even really realize who their
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assembly person is or what their assembly person does, right?
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So the state legislature is like the Forgotten stepchild of
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politics. Nobody ever pays attention to
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their State Legislative races, but it is actually one of the
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most important races for voters. To pay attention to and pay
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attention to the candidate. That they're electing to this
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seat because I think what the pandemic has taught us is about
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how there's decisions at the state level and at the local
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level, which impact your life, much greater than some of the
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decisions that are made at the federal level.
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So, I think the easy way to explain it is just as the
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federal government has the house and the Senate and they proposed
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bills and those bills get passed.
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And Become law, and we can all tuned into Schoolhouse Rock and
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see the bill getting past and how that works.
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Each state has, its own government.
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Has like the governor is to the president.
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As the state legislature is to our federal legislature, the
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legislative branch of our government.
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So, in California, we have an upper house in a lower house
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just like we do in Washington DC or upper houses the state
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senate. And our lower house is the State
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Assembly, and a lot of Other states, it's called the state
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house or the lower house. But here in California, we call
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it the assembly. It's comprised of 80 members
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from 80 districts. Now, with redistricting
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everything is supposed to be evenly, divided by population
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and communities of interest. But those 80 members go to
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Sacramento and they create bills.
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They proposed laws and vote. On them.
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And ultimately those bills that they write and pass become the
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law of the land and trickle down to all of us as individual
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citizens, or residents living in California, the Upper House of
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the state senate has 40 members. So, we have a total of 120
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state, legislators in California, making our laws.
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And just like the bills, get passed between the house and the
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Senate on the federal level, the bills get passed between the
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house and the Senate. And at the state level, as well.
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It's important for people to realize that when they complain
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about California. And I talked about, I probably
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talked about this ad nauseam, but I think it's important to
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talk about when they hear these crazy bills that happen and all
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this stuff that happens in California, whether it's
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criminal justice in terms of raising a misdemeanor to $900,
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you won't get prosecuted for or anything to do with any sort of
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sexual crimes or stuff. Like that people are always like
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oh you know, why is California so crazy?
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Well, it's the assembly and it's the the dominance of one party.
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It's one party rule right now. The Democrats have what is
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called a super majority in both houses and that's really where a
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lot of this craziness stems from.
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So that's why it's important to get people like you into the
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State Assembly and kind of chip away at that Democratic
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supermajority, right? Right, that is exactly on point.
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In the state senate. We have nine out of 40 members
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that are Republican and in the State Assembly, we have 19 out
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of 80 that are Republican. So, it's like a super mega
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majority as it currently stands. But I have great hope that
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within a cycle or two, we can break that supermajority, as
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long as we have good candidates who appeal to their communities,
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And are able to message the counter points to the horrendous
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policies. We see coming out of Sacramento
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that really might fill a progressive agenda, but don't
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suit the needs of everyday Californians.
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That's a perfect segue into your platform specifically and how
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you plan on kind of getting that platform out to the voters and
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getting that message out to the voters.
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And we've talked we've gone back and forth about this about
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messaging to voters. We can sort of get to messaging
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and all that after. But what's your platform?
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What are your main tenants? If you have to say like your
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pillars of your campaign that you want to get out to the
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voters? I think that the overarching
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message of my campaign is that the vast majority of
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Californians can agree on a whole bunch of things that we
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need to fix here in this state and that we need to prioritize.
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My priorities are a prosperous economy for all Californians,
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safe neighborhoods, for all, Californians and exceptional,
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education for all California children.
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I think that's something that we can all get behind partisan
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politics aside, whether you're Republican, Lookin or you're a
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Democrat, you want your family to prosper, you want your
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neighborhood to be safe, and you want your kids to have great
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schools. So why don't we all just get on
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board and make that happen without arguing about partisan
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politics? And I think that this is, you
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know, there's proof in the pudding because on Election Day
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there was 28 percent registered Republicans in this District in
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November of twenty twenty and I received forty four point two
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point forty four point two two, Percent of the vote that means
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that we have the message that appeals to a greater and broader
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base than just registered Republicans.
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And I think there's a lot of people who would agree, that
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sixty percent of Californians can kind of live in the middle
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and understand that there are priorities that aren't partisan
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politics. Sure, there's people on both
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ends of that, 60% spectrum that It might not agree and Party
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politics is more important to them than coming to the table
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and agreeing. But by and large Californians
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want to go about their lives and want to share those common
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interests and pursue those goals collectively together as a team
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for their communities. Something you brought up to me,
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is this idea of like winning by addition?
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That's what you're talking about is especially when it comes to
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Republicans. You could get 100% of a
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republican boat, but it's not going to win you a lot of races
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in California. So you do have to do this kind
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of like winning by addition. You have to bring a lot of
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people into your tent and you kind of mention these kind of
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kitchen table politics that are. I mean, they're appealable to
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all All Californians, whether your left, right?
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Middle, everybody wants a safe neighborhood.
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Everybody wants to send their kids to go to school that
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everybody wants to live in an economy where they can make more
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money. And they can buy a house and
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stuff like that, right. Do you feel like that that that
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message is, does it? Does it get beaten down by the
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other side because of values and the way they portray it better
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than Republicans? Do you think Republicans are
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just bad? Bad about talking about, how
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these are values that pretty much all Californians can share,
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but for some reason, Republicans don't seem to talk about that as
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much. Well, first, I have to give
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credit where credit is due because winning, by addition is
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something that Kevin Faulkner says a lot and I definitely
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agree with him. That that is the way we need to
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do it. And that's the way we win races
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as Republicans in, California is by addition, because We're
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throughout the state. I think we're like 25ish percent
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of the voters registered voters. So you like you said, if we want
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a hundred percent of Republicans only we would still only have
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like 25 percent of the vote that doesn't do us much good.
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I think that whole concept is not just beaten down by the
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Democrats but it's beaten down by a lot of Republicans to a lot
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of conservatives would rather Be right than win and I think
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that's becomes problematic. So oftentimes we are so focused
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on being, right? That we want to bring forth the
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candidate that 100% agrees with us.
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But we as all individual human beings, it's very hard to find
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people that 100% agree with us. So I think we need to step away
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on the right side of the aisle from demanding that our
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candidates, be 100% with us. And Lose every race.
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We need to be able to have compromised, both from the left
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and from the right. And we need to be comfortable
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with a candidate who agrees with us on 80, 90 percent of the
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issues and can win the race. Because wouldn't you rather have
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80 to 90% of something than 0% of nothing?
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Because if we don't change our mentality on how we win, races
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in California and become a bigger tent, Republican party,
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it becomes strategically Impossible to gain seats and
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we'll keep that supermajority in Sacramento rather than break it.
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Yeah, that's something I always say a lot of my lives is, you
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know, a lot of people will message me and say stuff like,
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oh, you know, California really went red for Trump in 2020.
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I'm like, no, it didn't go red for Trump and, and, you know,
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Gavin Newsom didn't rig the election to win.
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The recall, the numbers are there?
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The These are simply their Democrats, have the numbers
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Advantage, but if you said to somebody who is on the right
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side of the aisle, you know, if instead of a deep blue state in
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five years, five to seven years, would you take a purple state in
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California? Kind of like a Colorado or even
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in Arizona, which is be kind of coming kind of purple.
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Would you take that state in five, to seven years and maybe
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not leave this? Day and stay here.
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A lot of people I talk to you. So yeah I would I would stay in
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a purple State that's competitive.
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More than just worrying about. We have to flip it every four
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years or every two years we think there's going to be this
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Hail Mary in California's going to just magically flip right
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over night, right? I mean, I think we just have to
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get over that All or Nothing approach.
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And I think what the left has done a lot better than the right
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is play the long game. And, you know, some people will
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wake up and think. Oh, how did we get here,
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overnight California? Turn blue.
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No it didn't. They worked hard to make this
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day a blue State. And if you think that you're
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just going to flip a switch and in one election cycle, turn this
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state back to read. That's an unreasonable
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expectation. We have to be put willing to
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play the long game and put in the hard work and make the
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compromises necessary to become purple, because you're never
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going to go from Blue to Red. You Might go from purple to Red.
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I don't know if that's necessarily A something that can
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happen here in California but I'm very hopeful that we can
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become a purple state if we're willing to do the work and
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message our message correctly and really tap into the sixty
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percent of Californians who all agree on the common goals of
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prosperity, safety and exceptional education.
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Yeah, good colleague of ours. Mika Hamilton before I really
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start to get to know her, she sent me a PDF from years and
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years. I think it's almost over 10
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years ago. Someone had written a memo to
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the California GOP That said, look, this is the way the
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state's going demographically. We're you know the Latino
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population is increasing the Asian American population is
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increasing and we need to get on board with getting our message
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into these communities. Otherwise we're going to become
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a fringe party and it's it was almost like it was a crystal
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ball because that's what's happening now and to your point,
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the Democrats would really been working In on this year after
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year, after year now, Republicans are trying to claw
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back a lot of that in those different communities.
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Whether it's Latino or Asian-American to say, okay, we
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have to get our message back out there because we weren't
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thinking about the long game. We weren't thinking like how do
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we get our message into these communities for the next 10
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years? 10, 15 years.
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And how do we keep bringing in more voters to our party?
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Right? And I think particularly with
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Voters who are first-generation immigrants versus their children
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and grandchildren second and third generation?
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I feel like as we move further and further away from the
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Immigrant experience, in those groups that the voting Bloc
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tends to become more and more democratic and not Republican.
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And I think that's also part of the long game where we've kind
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of dropped the ball on messaging to each generation.
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And that comes further and further away from the Immigrant
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experience. So that's part of the long game
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2 and another thing that the Democrats have done better is
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appealing to people's emotions and feelings because we as
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conservatives and Republicans, we want to logically think it
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out. We want you to understand the
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logic behind our Agreements are arguments and why Were right.
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And we want you to agree with us.
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You don't appeal to emotion and feeling in our messaging,
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because I do think that we have the right message.
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We're just not messaging in a way that really resonates with
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voters in the way that the Democrats do because when you
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are feeling something rather than thinking, something it
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becomes much more powerful and that's the kind of messaging
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that we need to invoke. As Republicans.
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Yeah, and I talked a little bit about this yesterday on the live
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when I was reviewing the book, don't think of an elephant that
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it's a funny name but it's an interesting book because it's
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from a progressive slant and every argument he makes is based
00:24:34
in this sort of emotional response of like and I think
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you're seeing that play out in the modern left right now, where
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they say, Real argument. They have seems to be based in
00:24:47
some sort of, like, self-imposed moral superiority of if you want
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to. I mean, the most basic and
00:24:55
prevalent argument has anything to do with covid.
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If you want to question anything about covid, the first argument
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people make it, I guess you want people to die.
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I guess you don't like people being alive.
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You want to go kill Grandma. Well no, I and then a lot of
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times people on the right. Get sort of stuck in this.
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Well, I want to logically Argue with you about it, but people on
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the left, don't hear that. They just hear a motion and I
00:25:19
guess that comes back to this idea of like, making your
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message and Basin it on values. Not just logic, like we could
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sit here and logically say Californians are taxed too much
00:25:31
and here's our reasoning, why? But the message should be
00:25:35
something like when your tax too much, you reduce the ability of
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Californians to have the freedom to live their best life.
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And that's a value of value of. I'm being, my freedom is being
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robbed by being here in California being taxed, so much.
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So I guess that's a better way and that's just off the top of
00:25:54
my head of, like, thinking about how we have to kind of couch,
00:25:58
our messaging a little bit better.
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If that makes sense. I absolutely think that
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Republicans both as community members candidates, and the
00:26:13
party can message our values much better than we have in the
00:26:20
past. And I think we really need to
00:26:23
focus on appealing to voters by having relatable candidates and
00:26:29
relatable mess. Aging.
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So we want to make sure that we are being genuine to what we
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believe and genuine to what we are promising our communities.
00:26:42
But we can say it in a way that is relatable to voters who
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aren't just Republicans, but Independence and Democrats as
00:26:50
well, especially at a time like this when the left keeps pushing
00:26:54
so far left that a lot of moderate Democrats, feel like
00:26:57
they have no real political home.
00:27:02
Yeah, and I constantly see Biden's dropping approval rates.
00:27:08
I mean, he's the head of the party, if that's what you want
00:27:11
to call him right now. His dropping approval rates 53%
00:27:16
of Independence in California, think the country is on the
00:27:19
wrong track. I see this as opportunity that
00:27:23
there's a lot of frustrated voters out there but getting
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back to, how does this message mean get started?
00:27:30
I'm It gets started, I think at the Grassroots level and this is
00:27:35
where I'm going to kind of lead into like maybe a group like the
00:27:38
Calla public in caucus where it's going to have to be
00:27:42
Grassroots and it's going to have to be people at the local
00:27:45
level stepping up and saying, this is what I want from my
00:27:49
party. And this is what the platform, I
00:27:51
sort of want to see, right? So the thing about Grassroots up
00:27:56
until this point has been a Grassroots has I'm not
00:28:01
polarized, right? You're either really far on the
00:28:04
left or you're really far on the right and you're an activist and
00:28:06
you come out and you demand action that's either very
00:28:10
Progressive or very conservative.
00:28:13
We don't really have a lot of Grassroots in the middle of the
00:28:15
road. And I think that we're starting
00:28:19
to we're starting to have a lot of people wake up and wonder how
00:28:22
they're going to make a difference in the community.
00:28:25
And we have to make sure that we have something in place that
00:28:28
gives people platform or a place to go to become a Grassroots
00:28:37
activist or a Grassroots supporter of the platform that
00:28:41
you're mentioning the Calla public in platform.
00:28:44
The Calla public in caucus created by Phil from California
00:28:49
underground but I truly believe that if we can create a place or
00:28:56
a platform like that that the vast majority of of California
00:29:01
voters can relate to it and it doesn't have to be so polarized
00:29:07
or so polarizing to become a Grassroots person.
00:29:13
Yeah, I think it's got to start a lot of times.
00:29:16
It can't just be the leadership. You can't wait around for your
00:29:19
party to do it on their own. You kind of have to just jump in
00:29:23
and do it and Democrats have been doing a lot better at it.
00:29:27
Switching. Gears a little bit day. 1 June
00:29:32
cutter is sworn in as the newest assemblywoman of 76 District.
00:29:37
What's the first thing you're doing on day?
00:29:38
One day one, I am in sure. During that our schools are open
00:29:45
full time for in-person instruction with adequate
00:29:49
resources for both health and safety and the socio, emotional
00:29:52
well-being of our kids, who have been without normal school for
00:29:55
far too long. Good answer.
00:30:01
If people want to get involved in your campaign to volunteer,
00:30:06
what's the best way to contact you or get involved?
00:30:08
Yes. So, if you go on my website,
00:30:11
June cutter.com on the very first page on the homepage,
00:30:15
you'll find a volunteer button and a subscribe button.
00:30:18
So if you're ready to put on your volunteer hat and knock on
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some doors, make some calls, send some texts host a meet and
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Subscribe button, and we'll be letting, you know, all our
00:30:34
campaign updates. Awesome.
00:30:39
Well II didn't want to take up too much of your time and I know
00:30:42
you're very busy. You got a lot of media
00:30:43
appearances, you're also a mother and a wife and you have a
00:30:47
family. So I don't want to take too much
00:30:49
time away from that as well and knowing that the campaign can be
00:30:52
hard on them as well. So, thanks for coming on any
00:30:57
other final words, you like to get in before we sign off for
00:31:00
this one, know if you're interested in running for
00:31:04
office, if you want to learn more About it.
00:31:07
I encourage you to do your homework, the California.
00:31:11
Republican party has great online training resources
00:31:15
available to you on their website and also start joining
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organizations, I'll do a quick plug for the California women's
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leadership Association. We're a 501 C 4 nonpartisan
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nonprofit that launches female leaders on the center right into
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positions of leadership in government and in your
00:31:35
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00:31:37
start to become more involved in the process and learn more about
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the process. And another great place is to
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listen to California underground and all of his fabulous content
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always making me blush June. I'm sure we'll see each other
00:31:56
around. We got events coming up, I'm
00:31:57
sure we'll run into each other. Best of luck out on the campaign
00:32:01
Trail and we'll chat soon. Alright.
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