Democrats Lose Their Minds Over San Diego ICE Raid

Democrats Lose Their Minds Over San Diego ICE Raid

ICE conducts a raid on a San Diego restaurant and Democrats lose their minds over it. San Francisco attempts to introduce "equity" grading before backing down, and AB84 threatens to cut funding for charter schools. All on this episode of the California Underground Podcast. Are you a Californian who feels isolated and alone in your political views in a deep blue state? Feel like you can’t talk about insane taxes, an overbearing government, and radical social experiments without getting a side eye? Then join us on the California Underground Podcast, the most trusted podcast for all things California politics. Original air date 6.3.25


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to California Politics Podcast

05:16 ICE Raid at Boniforte Restaurant

28:45 San Francisco's Grading for Equity Proposal

31:09 Grading for Equity: A Controversial Proposal

37:06 The Need for Educational Reform

42:45 Charter Schools and Funding Challenges

52:43 Looking Ahead: Future Discussions on EducationLinks to ResourcesSan Francisco Introduces Equity Grading, Then Immediatly Backs Down - https://thevoicesf.org/grading-for-equity-coming-to-san-francisco-high-schools-this-fall/ - https://sfstandard.com/2025/05/28/sfusd-equity-grading-san-francisco-controversy/To Find and Contact Your State Legislator: https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/ *The California Underground Podcast is dedicated to discussing California politics from a place of sanity and rationality.*Check out our full site for more information about the show at www.californiaunderground.liveFollow California Underground on Social Media Instagram: www.instagram.com/californiaunderground X: https://twitter.com/CAUndergoundTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@californiaunderground?_t=8o6HWHcJ1CM&_r=1YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj8SabIcF4AKqEVFsLmo1jA Read about our Privacy Policy: https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/privacy-policy/


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the ice raid that happened in San Diego at the Italian

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restaurant in Bona Fuqueta. We're going to talk about how

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San Francisco has started or tried to introduce equity

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education standards, how they already backtracked.

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You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

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She made an appearance at this convention.

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The convention I'm Speaking of. You actually sent me a text.

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I didn't know this was happening this weekend, that the

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California Democratic Convention was happening this weekend and

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we missed the opportunity to go and get good interviews or good

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footage, right? Literally in my neighborhood,

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like neighboring city. Totally missed opportunity.

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Yep. Well, next year we'll keep an

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eye out for the Democratic convention next year.

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I mean, it's not we, we like to hear out both sides.

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So maybe there would have been some people with some, some

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interesting ideas, but we also could have gone, we've gone to

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Libertarian, we've gone to the Republican.

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We have not checked off the the Democratic 1 yet.

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So that is definitely on our list.

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But there are some people who made an appearance, one of them

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being Cory Booker. And I'm going to try and queue

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this up and it's going to be really, really quick.

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So if you blink, you might miss it.

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And here we go. There's no sound, but I want you

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to notice something. Is there something interesting

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about what Cory Booker is doing that looks oddly familiar, that

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they were killing a certain someone over anything?

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Anything in in particular that you see from that?

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It's so Elon Musk, isn't it? Elon Musk cosplaying Nazi.

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Right. Isn't that the same exact motion

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that they killed Elon Musk for for the only difference?

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Is Cory Booker didn't turn around and do it?

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Oh OK, so he didn't turn around to a non existing crowd that's

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back there. Like half Nazi.

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Half Nazi? Well, Cory Booker, who I'm

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pretty sure made a huge stink out of Elon Musk and saying he

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was a Nazi in the Nazi salute, got caught doing the same exact

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thing that, you know, Elon did. And there were some other things

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from the California Democratic Convention.

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Maybe we'll sprinkle those in over the next couple weeks.

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But first topic for tonight, give you a little background.

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I've already done a video on it. You can go check it out.

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Going over what Scott Peters and Sarah Jacobs have all said,

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there was a raid by ICE in San Diego at a restaurant called

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Bona Forqueta. Funny story about Bona Forqueta.

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Bona Forqueta is where my wife and I had like a celebration

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luncheon, like after our civil ceremony, after we got married

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because we had a destination wedding.

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So we had to get married civilly.

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And then we went, we were like, well, we want to go somewhere.

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So we picked Bona Forqueta and it was literally that restaurant

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that we went to. So we know we're very familiar

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with that Bona for Catha. But over the weekend that

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restaurant was raided by ICE illegal aliens who were working

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there, illegal immigrants. The manager was also taken in.

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As you can imagine, it's a very liberal area of San Diego, very

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left-leaning area of San Diego. In fact, in that neighborhood, I

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remember when they officially announced that Joe Biden had won

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the election try like they the news had called it.

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It was Joe Biden won the election that people were, you

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know, driving down the Main St. honking, throwing, like all

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sorts of stuff like celebrating like they just won the Super

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Bowl. Little background on that kind

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of neighborhood. Have you ever gone to this area

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of South like in San Diego? I don't believe so.

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I I was actually going to ask if you had ever been to that

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specific restaurant. Yeah, I, I have been.

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We were actually in South Park, just celebrated there.

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So couple weekends ago we were there shopping for vinyl

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records. Very familiar with the area.

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It's literally 10 minutes away from us.

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Where? Give me geographically

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whereabout that is in San Diego. I'm trying to think of where so

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it's in the city, but also near, it's not really near Balboa Park

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closer here, closer to the zoo maybe.

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OK, I think that might be it's on 30th Street is kind of where

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it runs through. But yeah, that's that's

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geographically where South Park is.

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I mean, I'm, I'm saying it's a liberal neighborhood as if San

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Diego doesn't have like it's the one liberal neighborhood.

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There was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of people who

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were, you know, pressing up on ICE agents and stuff like that.

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I guess they were throwing bottles at them.

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Tear gas was deployed. I think different types of

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immobilizing grenades were deployed.

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This turned into like a spectacle of of epic

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proportions. There was a press conference

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with Congressman Scott Peters, Congressman Sir Jacobs, Todd,

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Gloria, some other lawyer who was full of hot air.

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They were all standing up there at Central Courthouse.

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You know, this is terrorism. This is horrible.

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They're going in there with machine guns, scaring the crap

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out of little children. And it came out today more news

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that I think is really interesting about this story,

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which I think changes the whole story.

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So we're going to take a minute and watch that.

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This is from our friends over at NBC 7 here in San Diego.

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So let's let's check that out and we'll comment afterwards.

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Labor leaders are speaking out against Friday's ice raid at a

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popular South Park restaurant. That restaurant is set to open

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tomorrow after being closed for two days so employees could

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process everything that happened.

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We're also learning new information about what was in

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the warrant, including what the restaurant's owner is accused

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of. NBC 7 Shelby Bremer is in South

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Park with the latest Shelby. Yeah.

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Hi, Catherine and Monica. Juana Porchetta here is still

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closed, and the owner has declined on multiple interview

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requests. There's still a lot of pushback

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to that operation, but those new details from the warrant

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indicate that this story is a little more complicated than it

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first appeared. This economy has been built on

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the backs of hard working immigrants and now we unleash

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soldiers to attack them. Labor leaders forcefully

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denouncing an immigration enforcement operation at the

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popular South Park restaurant Buona Forquetta ahead of

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Friday's dinner rush. Flash bangs used against

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protesters so agents could exit safely, Homeland Security says.

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Opponents contend that and heavily armed agents were

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overkill. They sent masked armed troops

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into a neighborhood with high grade military weapons for fake

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papers. The the suspicion of fake

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papers, that is crazy. 4 undocumented employees were

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detained. The application for a search

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warrant authorizing the operation says it stemmed from a

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November 2020 tip that the owner was knowingly employing people

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not authorized to work in the US The tipster alleged the owner

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was exploiting them, forcing them to work 12 hour shifts with

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no breaks and quote mentally and verbally abusing them.

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Wanna Forketa said in a statement Tuesday they had just

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received a copy of the warrant, adding this is the first time we

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are seeing the document and we are in the process of reviewing

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it carefully with our legal counsel.

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Could be felonies in there that could be misdemeanors, that

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could be criminal and civil penalties.

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Laura Calderon of San Diego's Employee Rights Center says the

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owner may face serious consequences.

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But he contends there are ways of addressing that without

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handcuffing every worker in a busy restaurant.

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You. Want to deal with employers who

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are violating the law? Then do an audit.

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Then there was a health check. Then do an investigation of

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their wages and how they're being treated.

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The warrant application says Homeland Security asked Buena

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Forquetta for documentation on their employees in February.

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After reviewing the paperwork, agents on Friday were looking

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for a total of 19 people accused of submitting fraudulent green

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cards. Some point to a long broken

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immigration system as the root of what unfolded.

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Going to work is not a crime, should not be a crime.

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We are in this predicament because Congress has failed to

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pass a pathway to citizenship. Homeland Security says the

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penalty for hiring undocumented workers could be fined and up to

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six months imprisonment. The penalty for submitting

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fraudulent documents could be up to five years.

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Reporting live in South Park Shelby Bremer, NBC 7.

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Thank you for the update, Shelby.

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It may not be a crime to go to work, but it's a crime to go to

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work under a legal status and it's a crime to employ people

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who do not have status or do not have permission to work in the

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country. So that's a problem.

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And I think it's interesting this whole story, the, the more

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details came out. I saw this this morning.

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I was like, oh, gosh, I can't believe, well, I can kind of

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believe it that they all jumped to conclusions.

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Like I said, they had this big press conference with Scott

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Peters and Sarah Jacobs and Todd Gloria and they're all, they're

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all crying their crocodile tears about justice and all this about

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protecting and standing with the owner and standing with the the

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employees. And then it comes out there was

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this complaint from 2020 that was tipping them off.

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And it says actually the owner is, for a lack of a better term,

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a Dick. And like he, he mistreats the

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employees. He makes them work 12 hours

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without breaks. He's cruel, he's abusive to

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them. There's forged documents, forged

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green cards for citizenship, papers forged like work visas,

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all this forged stuff. So there is a lot of stuff going

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on here. And this, even when I recorded

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yesterday's video, there wasn't this much information.

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And now more stuff is coming out.

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I had alluded in yesterday's videos like, well, no wonder why

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the owner is traumatized and he's in tears because he knows

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he's likely in big, big trouble for all these things that he's

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doing and he thought he was going to get away with and now

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he got caught and he's he's facing big trouble, big like

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legal troubles. What are your thoughts?

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Question Yeah, the reporter said that the fines and punishments

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for submitting fake documents is like whatever X amount of time

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in prison, so that that's on the employer, the owner of the

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restaurant, not not the illegal immigrants who are submitting

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fake documents. Is that am I understanding that

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correctly? Yeah, it's on the person who

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employed them. Well, the person, I think who,

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So I, they're going to have to figure out who falsified these

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documents because whoever falsified the documents is going

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to be in legal trouble. If it was, he might point the

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finger back at the employees and say, no, no, they came to me and

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they had, you know, they, they showed me they had green cards

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and they could work here. Or he could have been the one

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who's like, no, no, you're going to go to this place and they're

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going to give you fake green cards.

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It'll be interesting to see how the owner and the employees turn

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on each other in this because both of them are not going to

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want to face federal time. Well, those who are here

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illegally are just going to get deported, but the owner is

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likely going to throw the employees under the bus just

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because he can save his own hide and not spend as much time in

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federal prison. But right, it was, it was not

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surprise. I, I guess I should say like

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it's, it's not surprising. My first thought when this all

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came out was that somebody tipped them off.

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And I didn't expect that someone tipped them off five years ago.

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And this is another interesting point.

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They're tipped off five years ago, right?

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And that was in 2020. And I, I thought about this

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today. I was like, interesting that sat

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there for five years, almost five years during the whole

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Biden administration. No one did anything.

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No one acted on this tip that they were they knew that there

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were people who were working there who were here illegally.

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How many other tips to ICE for situations like this do you

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think are backlogged with the administration right now?

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I don't even have a guess, but yes, I assume that there's

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always a backlog, even during Trump's first presidency.

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And so back in 2020, you know, maybe a backlog of six months a

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year. You can kind of see like they,

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they have to, it's a tip, they have to research that tip.

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They're, they're well, meanwhile there's other tips that they're

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also researching. So I understand there's a

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process and a process takes time.

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Five years is pretty crazy. But then now we find out that

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the owner was notified of this back in February.

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So that was like 4 months ago. I feel like he had plenty of

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time to figure out if if his employees were falsifying

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documents or not and to, you know, to start questioning his

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employees and let them know what's going on and, and say,

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hey, you know, if you don't have real documents here, I can't

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employ you any longer. And so he had three, 3-4 months

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is plenty of time for him to have checked that out for

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himself. I feel like a Saturday meeting

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and after hours meeting, you know, for a few hours for

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throughout the week. This all could have been dealt

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with by the owner. It didn't have to come to this.

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And so now to blame the authorities who gave him advance

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notice of this, he's like, you know, he's just using them,

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like, as a scapegoat, if you will.

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And like, oh, they did this, and we were subject to this.

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And now I'm traumatized. And it's like, actually, you had

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quite a fair warning. Yeah, and it's not like it came

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out of the blue, like he was giving a heads up about it.

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And it's they always jump to the conclusion.

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And like I said, they could, they could not wait to have a

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press conference where they all cried their crocodile tears and

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talked about stuff and blubbered about how they stood with the

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employees and the owner. And now it turns out the the

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owner is quite the Dick who mistreated all these people.

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Almost like if they just waited 48 hours, just give it 48 hours

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for all the facts to come out. But Democrats couldn't wait 48

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hours. They saw this as like such a big

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political win. In their mind.

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They're like, this is it? This is going to be like the

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poster child, Like, we're going to run on this the whole year

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like innocent restaurant workers, an innocent restaurant.

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Now they're going after innocent restaurant people.

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And there was something else that Scott Peters said in his

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press conference yesterday that he talked about.

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Oh, well, I thought they were just going after violent felons.

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OK. Yeah.

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The Trump administration said they were going to start with

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violent felons because it's easier to find the criminal

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records. They know where they're at.

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It's obviously violent felons who are eligible for

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deportation. We want, we don't want violent

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felons in our society. That doesn't change the fact

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that, like, the law is still the law.

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If you are employing people who are here illegally, that's still

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against the law like that. The rest of the laws under

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immigration don't just stop because that's what Trump said,

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like these things don't change. And I think that's that's what

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they think is like, oh, well, they're not going to go after

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these people. They're going to give these

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people a pass. Well, no, this is still the law.

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And that there was something that SEIOU member said in that

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video, which I actually agree with him.

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I just rarely agree with any union member on anything he

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said. Congress should pass a bill that

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changes this and creates a OK. Democrats were in power how many

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times between now and when Barack Obama was elected in

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2008? They never did anything.

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They never changed immigration laws.

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But they campaigned on it. They certainly took all they

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could to campaign on it. And how many years went by that

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they had the presidency and the House and the Senate and it

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nothing happened. So, you know, now Democrats are

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trying to pretend like this is a big tragedy.

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They didn't do anything about it for the past 15 years.

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Here's some comments I want to get to in the in the chat.

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Everyone who's joining in. Hi, chat.

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Hey, chat Kevin. Thanks for joining, Pete.

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Peter says it's not like it was some random raid and also

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typical situation. I feel for the employees, but if

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in the wrong, you're in the wrong.

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Yeah, I agree with you, Peter. There's a humane aspect of it

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where, yeah, I feel for the people, but it's still, it'd be

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like if I were putting myself out as an attorney and I was not

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an attorney and I did not have a license to practice law.

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That's against the law. It doesn't change the fact that

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what I'm doing is wrong, Mike says.

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I drive a truck for a living and there's been raised a restaurant

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all over, raised a restaurant all over the country.

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Also, believe it or not, I witnessed somebody getting

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arrested in a Dunkin' Donuts, so this isn't anything new.

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OK, so Mike's seen it all over. And.

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Hi, Ninja. Yeah, so it is again.

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I think it's funny that Democrats jumped on this and

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didn't give themselves like 48 hours to find out all the facts

00:20:56
because now the question is Scott Peters, who said, I, I

00:21:01
stand with the owner of this restaurant and we'll be there to

00:21:04
fight this. Do you still stand with the

00:21:07
owner of that restaurant? Do you want to stand with

00:21:09
somebody who mistreated illegal immigrants?

00:21:12
I don't know, right? Is that is that a political

00:21:14
decision you want to make sure go for it.

00:21:17
Scott Peters. Maybe they could turn it around

00:21:20
and run that on Scott Peters and say he run, you know, Scott

00:21:23
Peters stands with those who abuse or or cruel to illegal

00:21:27
immigrants. So I, I, well, there was another

00:21:32
thing that I saw was really interesting today, 619 news,

00:21:36
which is an Instagram page and they have, you know, they do a

00:21:41
lot of news and they had a video about the raid and everyone

00:21:45
pushing up on their aid and people throwing bottles and all

00:21:48
that stuff. What was funny was the caption

00:21:51
was all like dramatic ice and flash bangs and this is

00:21:55
terrorism in our in our city and stuff like that.

00:21:58
But you went to the comments and every comment was Nope, I voted

00:22:03
for this Nope, go ice. Yep, great to see they're doing

00:22:06
their job. Good job guys, keep at it.

00:22:09
But like every single comment was completely in support of

00:22:14
this raid. Which brings me to one more

00:22:16
point. I I don't know why Democrats

00:22:23
choose to be on the opposite side of this issue like this is

00:22:28
this was a pretty when it came to like exit straw polls, This

00:22:32
was up there. The economy and immigration were

00:22:34
like the top 2. And for some reason, Democrats

00:22:37
still seem to be on the other side of this where they're like,

00:22:41
no, no, we, we want all of this. And it's not like Trump went out

00:22:45
there and surprised everybody and ran on something completely

00:22:49
different. And then all of a sudden in

00:22:50
these first four or five months he's going, I don't know, I'm

00:22:52
going to do a mass deportation. We we all knew this was coming

00:22:57
and he was loud and proud about it up until the election and

00:23:01
people still voted for him. So it's this is what people

00:23:06
voted for. They voted for crackdown on

00:23:09
immigration. So I I don't know why they still

00:23:13
think that this is the winning side of the argument is to be on

00:23:16
the opposite side. The American people are not on

00:23:18
their side. Any thoughts it?

00:23:20
Does seem like Democrats are often on the side of the illegal

00:23:25
person versus the victims, not that.

00:23:29
I don't know. In this situation, we I don't

00:23:32
know that there's they, they were victims of their boss, but

00:23:34
they still chose to work there. But I'm just, it's, you know,

00:23:37
often there will be the illegal, illegal immigrant who comes in

00:23:40
and rapes somebody and they're like, oh, we don't want to

00:23:43
deport him. He's going to have to live in

00:23:45
such terrible conditions. So you want him in your

00:23:49
neighborhood? Do you want him camping out

00:23:51
behind your kids school? It it's just odd to me that that

00:23:54
does seem to be the stance they often take.

00:23:57
And I want to say cuz like someone in the chat had said,

00:24:00
they, they feel bad for this person, but also this has to be

00:24:03
done. Yes, absolutely both things can

00:24:05
be true. You can absolutely feel bad for

00:24:06
these people. They probably came here seeking

00:24:09
a better life for them, for their families, for their

00:24:12
children. You know, we each situation's

00:24:15
different, but they didn't do it legally.

00:24:19
And unfortunately that that's the price you pay of if, you

00:24:24
know, you commit a crime and the crime was coming here illegally

00:24:28
falsifying documents, whoever did that.

00:24:30
And now that's being dealt with as is the law.

00:24:34
So you can support the law and still have sympathy.

00:24:36
We are, we are human. We feel, you know, we feel bad

00:24:39
for other humans. We don't hate on everybody and

00:24:42
want bad things for everybody. But you break the law.

00:24:46
You you break the law and there's consequences for that.

00:24:50
Yeah, we're either a country of laws or we're a country that,

00:24:54
you know, not a country of laws. And I don't wanna live in a

00:24:57
world where it's not a country of laws, cuz that's when it gets

00:25:00
scary. Sorry.

00:25:01
You're gonna say something. No, sorry, that's OK.

00:25:03
Just we saw that so much under the Biden administration where

00:25:06
the IT was open borders and we, we all kept talking about how

00:25:11
this was an issue. And so now we're dealing with

00:25:13
the consequences of that issue. This is sad for those people

00:25:17
involved, but had they come through the proper channels when

00:25:20
Biden was, you know, in control and should have had border

00:25:24
control, then this wouldn't have happened.

00:25:29
Or it would happen much less than what we're seeing.

00:25:32
Because we would have, you know, had the people coming here

00:25:35
legally, they would be here legally.

00:25:39
And hey, if I were to follow the law, ICE wouldn't have a job.

00:25:43
Right there, there would be no need for immigration law

00:25:46
enforcement. All right, somebody Peter

00:25:50
commented again. I guess the question is will the

00:25:51
business thrive or go under because of the incident?

00:25:55
Well, the owner's facing some big legal trouble.

00:25:58
So I imagine that's going to be a problem and that's going to

00:26:02
take up a lot of money to fight how many of these charges.

00:26:05
And I can tell you from experience, federal court is no

00:26:10
joke in people who practice in federal court and do criminal

00:26:13
defense in federal court, they don't come cheap.

00:26:18
I can tell you that right now you're talking probably north of

00:26:21
six, $700.00 an hour for an attorney like this.

00:26:24
So, and that's, that's probably just moderate like good criminal

00:26:28
defense in federal court. It's it's going to be a lot of

00:26:31
money. Somebody said it's a simple

00:26:34
matter of standards. There is a standard to come into

00:26:36
the country because we want people to uphold the same values

00:26:39
as we have here in the USA. Agree to uphold those standards

00:26:43
or get out. Right.

00:26:45
Yeah. Yeah.

00:26:46
I mean, if you were to go to Mexico and overstay your

00:26:51
welcome, they'll arrest you and kick you out.

00:26:54
Like there's there's nothing stopping like Mexico enforces

00:26:58
immigration. Why?

00:27:01
Why is it different for us than Mexico or for Canada?

00:27:04
If you stayed in Canada too long, they'd probably kick you

00:27:06
out. Somebody said, by the way, Ninja

00:27:10
said, by the way, my sister is Mexican who legally immigrated

00:27:13
to the USA and eventually became a naturalized citizen.

00:27:16
Yeah, see, Congrats. My my wife grew up in Mexico, so

00:27:23
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00:28:33
All right, from ice raids to our next topic, San Francisco,

00:28:42
always the epicenter of cookie and crazy and ludicrous ideas.

00:28:50
I guess I'll Quentin Tarantino it for you and cut to the chase,

00:28:53
which is the good news is, is that this crazy idea is not

00:28:56
going into effect. But I do want to talk about what

00:29:01
it is. There was a story out of the

00:29:05
voice of San Francisco. Let me just pull this up.

00:29:13
Oop, that's the wrong page. I'm sorry, this is the thing

00:29:19
about doing it live. Sometimes you pick the wrong,

00:29:22
especially when like I know Camille has this problem too.

00:29:25
When you're searching, you have like 1000 tabs open.

00:29:28
Like it's always a lot. So San Francisco Board of

00:29:34
Education had proposed this grading for equity plan and they

00:29:40
were trying to get it through if it weren't for the fact that one

00:29:43
school board member actually spoke up and like soundly alarm

00:29:47
on it. They wanted to introduce what

00:29:50
this thing called grading for equity.

00:29:52
And here's a highlight of what they were talking about.

00:29:55
Grading for equity. This is from the Voice of San

00:29:58
Francisco. Eliminates homework or weekly

00:30:02
test from being counted in a student's final semester grade.

00:30:07
All that matters is how the student scores on a final

00:30:11
examination, which can be taken multiple times.

00:30:14
I want to say that again, you get to take a final examination

00:30:20
multiple times. No homework.

00:30:25
Students can be late in turning in an assignment or showing up

00:30:29
to class. Or you can show up.

00:30:32
Not show up, turn your work in late, Who cares?

00:30:37
Not even show up to school won't affect your grade.

00:30:40
Currently a student needs a 90 for an A and at least 61 for AD.

00:30:46
So that's our current standard. I'm sure everyone who's here

00:30:49
recognizes that. That's something we've all grown

00:30:51
up with. Under the San Leandro Unified

00:30:54
School Districts Grading for Equity system touted touted by

00:30:58
the San Francisco Unified School District and its consultant, a

00:31:01
student with a score as low as 80 can attain an A.

00:31:06
As low as 21 can pass with AD 21. 21. 21 can pass with AD so

00:31:15
grant for equity may reduce A&D&F grades and Courtney

00:31:18
Feldman enable a school district to cut costs for medial classes.

00:31:22
But what abouts do an academic outcomes?

00:31:27
Yeah, that's basically it about that.

00:31:30
So this was San Francisco's idea of grading for equity.

00:31:39
Why grade at all? Basically is what it sounds

00:31:42
like. May I interrupt real quick?

00:31:44
No, I was going to ask what your thoughts are for people who

00:31:47
don't know you. You do homeschool your children,

00:31:50
so you have to follow a curriculum I.

00:31:52
Have I have 4 kids and first one graduated high school last year.

00:31:57
The second one just graduated high school last week.

00:32:00
So I'm down to homeschooling two kids and they they've always

00:32:03
homeschooled. They've never been in public

00:32:04
school. But I'm kind of disappointed

00:32:06
we're not taking talking about AB 84 tonight because I had a

00:32:09
whole, I had a whole thing planned anyway.

00:32:11
Well, maybe we will. I, I, I'm, if we have time, I

00:32:14
think we can tackle it. So I feel like.

00:32:16
We probably need to tackle it next week or we could start and

00:32:18
do a second because there was just a sorry, now I'm getting

00:32:22
slightly off topic, but there it was.

00:32:23
They actually just made changes to it yesterday and so it hasn't

00:32:28
been voted on since the new changes.

00:32:30
And so I feel like next week we probably will have more

00:32:32
information on it. I did read these two articles

00:32:37
that you sent regarding this San Francisco grading for equity,

00:32:40
but I don't recall. Is it for high school or is it K

00:32:44
through 12 all together? And there's a 14 high school and

00:32:49
cover 10 students. Yeah.

00:32:51
So they were planning to put this into effect this fall in,

00:32:56
like you said, 14 high schools and it was affecting like 10

00:33:00
students. So it was kind of be like a

00:33:02
pilot program that they were going to try out.

00:33:05
And they don't plan to train the teachers on this until August,

00:33:08
which is pretty much the start of the school year.

00:33:11
And so that's just seeing very like, OK, we're, we're

00:33:15
implementing this program and you have like a day to learn.

00:33:18
It is a little bit crazy for changing a whole system.

00:33:23
I don't. I have more thoughts on this but

00:33:25
I don't know how much I should get into that before you go on

00:33:28
to the next part of this. Well, I can go on to the next

00:33:33
part. Like I already alluded to, I

00:33:35
kind of gave away the whole ending to this.

00:33:40
So that was proposed. This came out.

00:33:44
It was May 27th as of right now, May 28th.

00:33:51
Literally a day later they published the story that SFUSD

00:33:55
pauses grading for equity amid backlash.

00:33:59
So already they have once the word got out, they

00:34:06
automatically, they, they already went into hyper crazy

00:34:09
mode and and defensive mode and and cancelled it.

00:34:12
The mayor of San Francisco. We owe our young people an

00:34:14
education that prepares them to succeed.

00:34:17
He tweeted this out. The proposed changes to grading

00:34:20
at SFUSD would not accomplish that.

00:34:22
I have conveyed our view to UFSD.

00:34:26
We are optimistic that there is a better path forward for our

00:34:28
kids and their future. So they already backtracked on

00:34:34
it and it's not going into effect.

00:34:37
Thankfully, it's not going into effect.

00:34:39
This is an idea that we've talked about before on the show.

00:34:43
Public pressure does work. So when things get out like

00:34:46
this, it is important to get engaged and make sure you you

00:34:51
call up and put pressure on them and call up your school board

00:34:54
and stuff like that. Once this stuff does get out,

00:34:56
because public pressure does work.

00:34:57
So people think that in California this stuff just gets

00:35:01
rubber stamped. Not, not necessarily.

00:35:04
These things do not always get rubber stamped.

00:35:08
We've seen it time and time again with the Assembly and the

00:35:10
state Senate of like that if there's too much pressure, they

00:35:15
will back off stuff. So.

00:35:17
Yes, I know parents and then teachers within that district

00:35:20
were they did raise a lot of concerns.

00:35:22
I don't know that it's officially a dead idea, but as

00:35:26
far as implementing it this, this coming school year in the

00:35:29
fall, they they've killed that idea.

00:35:31
And I think the Superintendent even said, you know, we when she

00:35:36
backed off, she said we need more time to assess this and

00:35:39
train on this etcetera. So I don't know that they've

00:35:42
officially killed it, but I am I'm not 100% against all of

00:35:49
this. I believe public school needs

00:35:54
reform. Now, again, I'm coming from a

00:35:56
place of my kids have never been in public school.

00:35:58
I have always homeschooled them. Of course, I homeschool for

00:36:01
reasons and I don't have all the answers, but I was reading this

00:36:05
article over the weekend or these two articles over the

00:36:08
weekend, and it really just started to give me thoughts.

00:36:10
So I'm, I'm against kids going to OK, I'm not against kids

00:36:13
going to public school. I'm against kids going to public

00:36:16
school or school in general. And then they're there all day

00:36:19
and then they come home and have hours of homework to complete.

00:36:22
I think that's wrong. I don't think that that's

00:36:25
healthy. I don't think that it's healthy

00:36:28
to say you can be late and still have passing grades.

00:36:32
I don't think that it's healthy to say we're going to do away

00:36:35
with the weekly test and you know, at the end of the semester

00:36:40
or whatever, every few weeks you just have to pass this test, but

00:36:43
you get multiple times to pass this test.

00:36:46
So in education, my belief and one of the reasons why I home

00:36:50
school and I'm not telling anyone to agree with me, just my

00:36:54
thoughts. Education should not be about

00:36:58
passing a test. So that's where I'm actually

00:37:01
against this. Like I would prefer the kids had

00:37:04
weekly quizzes to make sure that they're staying on track with

00:37:07
what they were taught that week, but to expect like the end of

00:37:11
semester or whatever it is, OK. As long as they pass this test

00:37:15
of everything they learned the past three months, then you know

00:37:19
they're good to go out into the real world.

00:37:21
I just I'm against that thought that idea.

00:37:24
I students kids should be educating.

00:37:28
They should be getting an education that inspires them to

00:37:31
want to continue to learn, whether that's after high

00:37:34
school, whether that's a trade school or college or just their

00:37:38
own, whatever they want to do on their own.

00:37:42
You know, college is not the end all be all for everybody.

00:37:45
And we don't want kids to low learning.

00:37:48
And if we're teaching them that they just need to memorize

00:37:50
information and pass a test that I feel like that's not real

00:37:54
world experience. And I understand that we don't

00:37:57
want a bunch of dumb kids, but not every kid is going to excel

00:38:01
in math or science. They're not going to every kid

00:38:04
isn't going to use that in their jobs.

00:38:07
Like I know you've made jokes here that you you don't do math

00:38:11
or you don't like math, but that's why you went into law,

00:38:16
not that you don't have some math that you have to do use

00:38:20
some accounting. And I think, you know, we don't

00:38:22
want, again, we don't want to just have a bunch of dumb

00:38:26
children who can't do anything exiting high school.

00:38:28
And they like don't know basic math and they don't know reading

00:38:31
and they don't know critical thinking.

00:38:32
But I think we should get away with like do away with the

00:38:37
actual grading system. As far as ABCD, I don't know.

00:38:40
And I don't have the solution to that.

00:38:42
Again, this is just something I started thinking about.

00:38:44
Like that's one of the reasons my home school is because that's

00:38:49
not what I want for my kids. I want them to enjoy learning.

00:38:52
I want them to have a level of learning.

00:38:53
I want them to be inspired to go out and learn more on what

00:38:57
they're interested in. Well, absolutely.

00:38:59
Learning the basics, critical thinking is very important to

00:39:02
me, you know, and I just feel like if it memorizes

00:39:06
information, pass it on the test.

00:39:09
And I just don't think that's real.

00:39:14
I realize that's been the system forever.

00:39:16
That's what you and I grew up in.

00:39:17
That's just my little rant there.

00:39:21
Well, I agree with you. The school system in California

00:39:25
definitely needs reform. We've had Lance Christensen on

00:39:28
who knows way more about education than both of us

00:39:32
combined. And they're, you know, USA TODAY

00:39:36
has as of 2024, California's ranked like 37 out of 50 states

00:39:42
when it comes to pre-K through 12 education.

00:39:45
So California's like. We were like 49, I'm not joking.

00:39:49
I looked it up today just to double check and I was like, I'm

00:39:54
37, OK, So we went up. That's interesting.

00:39:57
I mean, it's still not good. You're in a lower percentile,

00:40:01
but there is something to we have to reform, but.

00:40:06
I think there's something when there's literally no guard rails

00:40:09
of anything. Like there's no OK, you have to

00:40:14
show up to class, You have to show, you have to turn your

00:40:16
things in on time. There's also like a social

00:40:19
component of you go to school and you learn like you have to

00:40:23
be a part of something. You have to show up on time.

00:40:25
You have to turn like an assignment in.

00:40:28
That's like real life. Like I have to do the same

00:40:30
thing. I, I have to show up at work, I

00:40:33
have to be there. I can't leave early.

00:40:36
I have to turn my assignments in on time.

00:40:39
Like there is a detriment, I think to just not having any

00:40:45
guardrails at all and making it so, well, it doesn't matter how

00:40:49
good or how bad your work is, you're still going to pass.

00:40:52
Like a 21 is still a passing grade.

00:40:54
That's like, I mean, that's that's a bad grade and you still

00:40:58
get that's a really bad grade and you can still pass and 80 I

00:41:02
guess is still an A it it does feel like you're you're kind of

00:41:07
for lack of a better term, you're dumbing down the entire

00:41:10
curriculum just for in the name of equity as opposed to just

00:41:16
making that making it better. You know that we.

00:41:21
But like, especially in a subject like math where you

00:41:22
build on foundations, yeah, you can't just fake your way through

00:41:27
it with your passing 21 score like that.

00:41:29
You're not going to learn anything.

00:41:32
You know, I know for me, like having four kids, each kid

00:41:36
learns at a different rate. Each kid has their interests.

00:41:39
They they have a subject, they excel it subjects, they don't

00:41:42
excel it. And I, I make them like learn,

00:41:48
you know, we, we stick to standards for sure.

00:41:51
I don't want you guys to think I'm like Lord of the flies over

00:41:53
here with my kids, just like not learning anything.

00:41:56
I am very much like, OK, you didn't, you didn't do this math

00:42:00
less than 100%. You're going to redo it and redo

00:42:03
it and redo it not because I want you to like fake results,

00:42:07
but because you need to understand this before you move

00:42:09
on to the next component. So if we have to spend two or

00:42:13
three weeks on a particular math, you know, something

00:42:17
related to math, we're going to do that to make sure that they

00:42:22
excelled. That I realized that doesn't

00:42:23
work in a public school system or even private school system

00:42:26
because 30 kids versus me working with a couple kids is

00:42:30
totally different situation. And it's not me again, like

00:42:33
trying to fake their grades. It's just like, no, you need to

00:42:35
understand this before you move on.

00:42:40
See, you even have standards. Got to have some standards.

00:42:42
Standards I do. I just I'm not 100% agreeing

00:42:46
with or not agreeing with this grading equity system.

00:42:50
I'm just saying, I, I do think there needs to be a reform.

00:42:54
And maybe people will say, well, you don't get to say because

00:42:56
your kids aren't in school. Maybe that's true.

00:42:59
And again, I'm not like an expert here.

00:43:02
Clearly I'm not a, you know, I don't have the teacher's degree

00:43:06
to go teach in a public school, but I've just started thinking

00:43:11
about things when I was because it's funny, because so I have a

00:43:14
niece and nephew in private school in high school here in

00:43:17
Southern California. And, and then I have a nephew in

00:43:20
high school in public school in Texas.

00:43:23
And we're all like my sisters and I and all of our kids are on

00:43:27
this massive group family text. And the kids are talking about

00:43:30
how in their school systems, again, a Texas public school, a

00:43:34
California private school, their grades, they're not even like D

00:43:40
is not passing. D is actually failing.

00:43:43
So they're doing the complete opposite of what this equity

00:43:45
reform wants to do. Like they're, they're raising

00:43:49
the standards and that's, that's a good thing.

00:43:52
And competition is a good thing, even if you're trying to compete

00:43:54
with yourself. And so I don't want anyone to

00:43:57
think that I'm like over here, like no standards whatsoever.

00:44:00
I just public school standards. This one seems one extreme.

00:44:04
What's going on right now seems like another extreme to me.

00:44:07
And I just feel like there needs to be a happy middle.

00:44:09
And no, I don't have the solution to that.

00:44:10
I'm just thinking of ideas, that's all.

00:44:13
The chat is going, you know, pretty, pretty wild right now

00:44:18
for anybody who's in the chat and you're watching and

00:44:20
listening, tuning in live. Thanks for tuning in.

00:44:21
If you have questions or comments for us to discuss, fire

00:44:26
away. Seems like a lot of people want

00:44:28
ice to show up in different cities like Sacramento, the Bay

00:44:32
Area. People saying, why can't we get,

00:44:34
we need ice up here. So maybe maybe they're coming to

00:44:39
a town near you. Maybe there's a hotline.

00:44:43
Yeah, I guess there's a tip hotline.

00:44:44
I think if you give an anonymous tip, you get $1000.

00:44:47
I wonder who that person was who gave that tip.

00:44:49
And I wonder if they got a. Well, actually, that was the old

00:44:51
administration. So the new administration gives

00:44:54
you $1000 if you put in an anonymous tip and it actually

00:45:00
leads to an arrest. I don't know how that works,

00:45:01
though. You give an anonymous tip.

00:45:03
Wait, how do? How are you anonymous if?

00:45:06
Obviously to them, you're not. To them you're not, but to the

00:45:10
person who wants to find out who tipped them off, I guess, right?

00:45:15
I don't know. They they figured it out.

00:45:16
Yeah, because. Otherwise.

00:45:19
There would probably be a lot of retaliation.

00:45:22
Not saying that every illegal immigrant wants to come after

00:45:25
somebody else, but I would imagine that if they knew who

00:45:28
submitted the tip there, some of them are going to retaliate in

00:45:31
some ways. So that could be kind of scary.

00:45:34
Thanks Ma Allen, subscribe to the channel today.

00:45:36
Love Phillip, he keeps up the good work.

00:45:39
My wife and daughter-in-law homeschooled my 2 grandkids.

00:45:42
It's been three years now and they are far above California's

00:45:45
public school reading, writing and arithmetic expected grade

00:45:48
level. Way above I I anything that just

00:45:52
comes from. That time, that one-on-one time,

00:45:56
because it in a public or I shouldn't keep saying public in

00:45:58
a regular, you know, brick and mortar school setting, you're

00:46:01
waiting for the lowest person. I don't, I hate to use the word

00:46:07
slowest, but to, you know, to get the concept before you move

00:46:11
on or, or you can't wait for them and you have to move on and

00:46:16
then they're not getting the attention and education that

00:46:19
they require, you know, And so when you're trying to get 30

00:46:22
kids on the same page, yeah, there's going to be a lot that

00:46:26
are like left behind. Whereas in home school, you

00:46:30
know, you're 246810 kids. It's, it's a whole different

00:46:34
thing. And especially as the kids get

00:46:36
older and they're more independent and they can also

00:46:38
help you out with younger kids if you have a lot of kids.

00:46:41
So, and there's even I have two girls that are only 15 months

00:46:45
apart and I've been able to use seems like I can have them in

00:46:50
the same history. So I'm not spending double time

00:46:53
with that. Like it's like, OK, we're

00:46:55
working on this history together, you know, And so yes,

00:46:59
there's, there's more time. There's that one, one-on-one

00:47:02
experience with your, with the kids at home school.

00:47:05
It's not that they're better kids or that their minds are

00:47:08
far, you know, superior to those in a regular school system.

00:47:14
Somebody commented this is back on the immigration self deport

00:47:17
or give up any chance of ever applying for the entry in the

00:47:19
future. Part of this, this story I saw I

00:47:24
think was NBC 7. There's so many stories are

00:47:26
flying out about this whole San Diego ICE raid that a lot of

00:47:30
them already had deportation orders.

00:47:32
So people were like they, they didn't get their due process.

00:47:36
That because that's what a lot of Democrats were screaming

00:47:38
about, is that they didn't get their due process.

00:47:41
But to get a deportation order means you've gone through due

00:47:44
process. Like you've been summoned to

00:47:46
immigration court, you've been given the opportunity to provide

00:47:49
like why you should be here, but there's an order.

00:47:51
Like the court came to an order and said, Nope, we're going to

00:47:55
issue a deportation. Or so I think several of the

00:47:58
people had deportation orders already, which, you know, I

00:48:03
guess that that was their due process.

00:48:07
We're not going to dive into it tonight because like you said,

00:48:10
there was more, you said there was more like an update today or

00:48:14
something changed about the bill AB 84 because.

00:48:17
Yesterday they amended it. OK, it hasn't been voted on yet.

00:48:22
For a since then amendment, like I think we'll dive into it more

00:48:26
next week because I really want to make sure.

00:48:28
And again, to all the new people who are here, Camille and I, we,

00:48:32
we work hard to make sure when we talk about stuff like we

00:48:37
don't just fire from the hip. Like we actually sit down and

00:48:41
read and like figure stuff out. So we can give you guys all the

00:48:44
updates. I will give you a summary of the

00:48:47
bill. So it's AB 84.

00:48:50
Basically, this is from Cal matters.

00:48:52
It says it would update the rules how charter schools in

00:48:54
California are run. It would change how these

00:48:56
schools report student attendance and how they receive

00:48:59
funding. The updated rules would aim to

00:49:01
make a clear difference between money for students learning in

00:49:04
classrooms and those outside of classrooms, for example, online

00:49:09
or at home. So there's been a big uproar

00:49:14
about this and how they're chipping away at charter

00:49:17
schools. I'm not surprised.

00:49:20
They want more people in private or they want more people in

00:49:25
public schools In California. It was interesting during COVID

00:49:29
how much more popular charter schools and private schools

00:49:33
became because they didn't they could reopen.

00:49:36
Like people were flooding their kids into private and charter

00:49:38
schools and they were like, wait a second, these schools are

00:49:41
actually like they're better. That's interesting.

00:49:45
Wow. So it is interesting how they

00:49:49
slowly are trying to take away charter and private schools and

00:49:52
and push more people into power schools.

00:49:55
Passionate about and have several, several novels prepared

00:49:59
for, which is why I didn't want to get into it tonight, but I, I

00:50:02
will quickly share something that they did in 2020 in

00:50:04
California. They based the, you know, 2020

00:50:09
was obviously COVID and schools were closing.

00:50:12
And then there was parents who were kind of like they want

00:50:14
their kids in school, but they were also unsure about what the

00:50:17
school system was going to be like.

00:50:18
There was a lot of things that were exposed that some parents

00:50:21
were against and they didn't want to put their kids back into

00:50:24
public school for the fall of 2020.

00:50:26
So the California State realized this obviously, and what they

00:50:32
did was they for funding for these charter homeschool

00:50:36
programs, they based it on 2020 attendance.

00:50:40
I mean, sorry, like the 2019 to 2020 school year attendance.

00:50:45
And basically we're like, OK, well, that's the, all the

00:50:48
funding you get. And so returning families had

00:50:50
priority to obviously return, but new families, it was very

00:50:54
hard to get into a charter who chose to leave the school system

00:50:57
at that time and sign it for charter.

00:50:58
It was basically like, haha, you want to, but you can't.

00:51:02
And charter home schools, while they are considered to be part

00:51:05
of the school system, they give you so much freedom to educate

00:51:08
your children how you want. And there's little things like

00:51:12
if you're not using on campus classes, then you don't have to

00:51:16
follow the vaccine schedule. You can choose to do your own

00:51:19
vaccine schedule. Maybe you want to delay, maybe

00:51:21
there's some that you're not comfortable with.

00:51:23
And so that's a benefit of a charter school for, you know,

00:51:26
especially kids who have certain health issues that can't get

00:51:29
vaccinated. There's a benefit there.

00:51:32
There's also for first time homeschool families, you have a

00:51:35
teacher who's assigned to you who is going to like hold your

00:51:38
hand through the process and really work with you to come up

00:51:42
with a, a customized plan for each of your, your school, your

00:51:45
students. And I, for some reason, the

00:51:50
California school system just didn't want that.

00:51:52
And you do receive a certain amount of funds.

00:51:55
They don't give it to you. You have to.

00:51:57
There's approved curriculum and approved vendors and stuff that

00:52:00
you you purchase through the school through your teacher.

00:52:03
They help you with that too. But I believe the latest numbers

00:52:07
and don't quote me on this because I thought it was like 10

00:52:10
to $13 per student in public school.

00:52:13
I just read today it's like $19.

00:52:16
But maybe only a certain amount of that follows the student,

00:52:19
while another certain amount of that goes to the actual the

00:52:21
school, the superintendents and all that administration.

00:52:25
So I'm just going to say somewhere between 10 and $20

00:52:28
is what your student is worth in in a charter homeschool program.

00:52:34
High schools get about high school students get about $3000

00:52:37
for the year. And again, they're not handing

00:52:39
you this $3000. You're spending it on approved

00:52:41
vendors, approved curriculum, etcetera.

00:52:44
And you are checking in with the teacher sometimes weekly, often

00:52:47
monthly, and they're and they're there for you to help you.

00:52:50
And so anyway, this is like charter home schools are such a

00:52:52
great support for people who either can't afford to home

00:52:54
school or want that help with starting out in home school.

00:52:59
And then of course, that was very beneficial for those who

00:53:02
were kind of iffy about going back into the public school

00:53:05
system for the fall of 2020 and decided to try things out.

00:53:08
But the government was like, no, we're not.

00:53:10
We're not giving them extra funds for the charter work or

00:53:14
get to keep that in public school systems, regardless if

00:53:16
your kid comes back or not. I don't know how that was legal,

00:53:18
but they did that. So a lot more to unpack.

00:53:24
Yeah. For AB 84, yeah, somebody who

00:53:27
brought this up to my attention, I thought this was really

00:53:29
interesting, so we'll definitely tackle it more next week.

00:53:33
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00:53:46
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00:54:12
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00:54:16
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