In this episode of the California Underground Podcast, hosts Phil and Camille discuss significant developments in California politics, including the recent Senate vote to overturn California's gas car ban waiver, the implications of Bill Essayli's new immigration program, and Gavin Newsom's executive order mandating zero-emission vehicles. The conversation delves into the complexities of state versus federal authority, the potential impact on California's economy, and the challenges of transitioning to electric vehicles amidst existing infrastructure issues.
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Original air date 5.27.25
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates
03:00 California Gas Car Ban Discussion
06:46 Local Politics and Bill Essayli's New Program
20:54 Gavin Newsom's Executive Order on Gas Cars
29:41 The Electric Vehicle Dilemma
32:41 Challenges of Electric Trucks
35:40 California's Environmental Policies and Hypocrisy
39:40 Federal vs. State Regulations on Emissions
51:43 The Role of Government in Electric Vehicle Adoption
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If you're a California conservative, A libertarian, A
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moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just the same
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Podcast. What's going on everybody?
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Thanks for tuning to another episode of the California
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I am your host Phil. This is the most trusted podcast
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for all things California your host Phil and as always with me
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the best, the fastest researcher in the West, my Co host Camille.
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How are you doing Camille? I'm.
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Good. Thanks.
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How are you? I'm doing well, recovering well.
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I shouldn't say recovering from a Memorial Day weekend, but we
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were just saying before we hopped on like three day
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weekends are weird. And then like we were out of
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town last week and so it's another short week.
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And then like we did somebody else's podcast.
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We were a guest on Doctor Tanisha Keating's podcast this
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weekend. So it's like we did a podcast,
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but it wasn't our podcast and it was it just feels like all topsy
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turvy right now. So.
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But we're back. Normal time Tuesday, 6:00 PM.
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Yeah, I'm. Like all thrown off and summer
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break is coming out for my kids and stuff.
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And so it's just like what what even what even is happening?
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I don't even know. I'm but my second child's about
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to graduate high school so it's. That's a lot.
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It is a lot. I mean, it's not a lot.
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It's really not, but it is because like you mentioned, you
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were out of town last week, so I couldn't podcast with you.
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You podcasted solo, then we did someone else's podcast and then
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Memorial Day threw me off and I'm just like, I'm, I'm here,
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but I, I don't know what day it is or what I'm doing so.
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Well, your kids are old enough they take care of themselves
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anyway, right? Pretty much.
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Yeah. So it's not like you have to
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like entertain them. They they kind of, they know
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what to do to energy. Yeah.
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You. Have to worry about like taking
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them to water parks or something like that or Disneyland.
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Absolutely not. They have a pool in the backyard
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and they're old enough. I mean, I never let kids swim
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alone anyway, but it's not safe. But they, you know, they can go
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out there together and do all that, so.
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Yeah, well, all right, tonight we have a lot of stuff to talk
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about. One big story that we we're
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going to get a little wonky. I'm going to warn you guys right
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now because it it's a lot. And I even was reading it and
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this is the guy who loves constitutional law and reading
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this stuff and does law for a living.
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And I read it and I was like, I don't really get what's going on
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here. But this is we're going to talk
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about the California gas car ban.
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So Senate had just voted to overturn the waiver allowing
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California to implement the gas carb.
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And we're going to talk a little bit about the history where that
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came from, Gavin's executive order on it.
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We're also going to talk about Bill Asaley, who was a former
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Assemblyman, now US attorney for the Central District, has
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started a new program and quite, quite brilliantly has figured
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out how to get around the sanctuary state policies and
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basically make all these programs really effective.
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So last week, Camille, when you weren't here and I did the the
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podcast solo, I went on a big rant about spending and I just
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posted something on Instagram about the spending and the the
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one big, one big beautiful bill. I don't know if you had any
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thoughts that you wanted to add about the big beautiful bill
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about the spending. I saw you were pissed just like
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I was. So did you have any thoughts
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about Because I'm still, I'm like still pissed about it.
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I think people rightfully should be pissed about it.
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Like we vote for conservatives and then they did the opposite
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of being conservative. They ended up spending more
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money. So it's not.
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Funny, like my own response is to laugh or something.
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It's not funny because yes, we, I think we got all excited that
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all of a sudden we were in control of everything and we, we
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were like, this means so much. Like, I think even Democrats and
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people who weren't for Trump were like, Oh my gosh, OK, he
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made all these promises, all these like, things are going to
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be lowered and lower taxes and the costs are going to be
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brought down and stuff. And so I think even Democrats
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had expectations. I think some were like, I knew
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this was going to happen. I, I, well, I would say that I
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do lean on the side of being pissed.
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I also lean on like not surprised when, when do they
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ever really like they do these like one step forward things and
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we're get all excited and then there's like 2 steps back and
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then we're like surprise, surprise.
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Yeah. That I, I, we should expect it
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at this point. They don't do anything.
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And funny enough, like obviously this, that's a national issue.
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And I think that just goes back to why I'm just like local
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politics. I just really just stick my head
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in the California desert sand or the California desert, not
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desert, the sewage ocean, and just ignore the national
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politics because I'm like, nothing changes.
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Nothing ever really changes. Nope.
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It's like one of my favorite bands, Famous Line.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss if you're in the chat
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and you can guess who that band is.
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And that's all, Yeah. Well, sure.
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Did you buy tickets? I did buy tickets.
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I was one of the first people to buy tickets even before they
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went on general sale. So that gives people a hint of
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who the band and the song is. Well, I do have some exclusive
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footage just obtained by California by by sources to
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California Underground. My sources have given me some
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exclusive footage regarding the the one big beautiful bill in
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Congressional Republican, so I'm going to show it right now.
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You've never seen this, right? This is you have no idea.
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Where your sources are, this has not been discussed.
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OK, so this is exclusive footage regarding Congressional
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Republicans and the one big beautiful bill obtained by
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California Underground, so here we go.
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It's time I'm going to kick that football player to the moon.
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I need to know who your sources are.
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Well, there you have it, folks. But wow, I I want to be.
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On it's it's exclusive. I know it's very exclusive.
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It's corny, but that's literally how I felt.
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And I was like, Yep, that's, I mean, it's like Charlie Brown in
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the football with Lucy. Like every time we vote for it
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and every time we vote for Republicans, what do they end up
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doing? Go.
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We can't cut spending this time. We have to do it next time.
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We have to spend our way out of this deficit.
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That's how we're going to fix things.
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It was now on to local stuff. More, more pressing local stuff
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because you're tuning in because this is all about California
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politics. And that's what we're talking
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about here. If you're local here in
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California, this is the stuff that really matters to you.
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So I saw this story now. Bill Saley came on the show,
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former guest of the show, but we've met him in person.
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Nice guy, really smart. I, I'm was mad.
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Well, not mad. I would say I was disappointed.
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He left to be US attorney of the Central District.
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It's a big opportunity. He was a prosecutor prior to
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being an assemblyman. So he has the experience to be a
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prosecutor, but it turns out he's up to something in the
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Central District that I saw this article that I think is just a a
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sign of maybe good things going on in the Central District that
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includes LA. Just cause the way you worded
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it, you were disappointed that he left the assembly because you
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liked him in the assembly. Right, I should clarify, didn't.
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Want him in this new position? I was disappointed he left
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because he was so good in the assembly.
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He was a fighter in the Assembly and you know, we need that.
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Like he would press the issue and he had no problem going on
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the floor calling out Democrats. You know, if you had to make a
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little bit of a spectacle, it was great because it it created
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a lot of viral buzz about what's going on.
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I think if anything, probably his biggest accomplishment, you
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know, being a fighter in the Assembly is really exposing
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California Democrats as these bullies in the Assembly, Like
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they, they silence you, they cut you off, they cut your mic, they
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won't let you speak. He did a really good job of
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doing that because he'd get up your.
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Bills, like you're literally there to author bills and pass
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new legislation and they were like, they wouldn't even hear
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them. No, we don't like you.
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We're not going to read your stuff.
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We don't care. Nope, they would just be like,
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Nope, sorry, we we hate you and go away.
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We're not going to listen. They just cut his mic and then
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they would do like decorum things of like he'd be speaking
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and they they'd all be like walking in front of him and just
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distract it. It was but love Bill Saley and
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the Assembly. I was, that's why I was
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disappointed when he left because I was like, you know, we
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need another and there's going to be an election.
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So if you're in his district, there's going to be a new
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election for his replacement. Some people I've been talking to
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who are running in that that election, maybe we'll get them
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on. They might be a guest on the
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shelf candidate in that that specific district.
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So now he is the US Attorney for the Central District and that's
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a big deal because that means he overseas the entire Central
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District. So back up a little bit.
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Our court systems are broken into two different
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jurisdictional kind of levels. We have state which handles
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everything here in California. So all of your local California
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issues, your crimes, wills, trusts the states, divorces, all
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of that stuff. That's all handled at the state
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level. Now there are federal issues
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that are handled at federal court and that usually involves
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a lot of constitutional law, anything involving international
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defendants, people cross-border, cross-border in terms of like
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States and immigration. So immigration is one of those
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things that the federal courts have jurisdiction over because
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it is a exclusive jurisdiction of federal government.
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So when you're AUS attorney, that is basically the same as
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being like the District Attorney of the county of San Diego or
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the District Attorney of the county of Orange.
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So you're the head prosecutor for that district.
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In Central District, it's really big.
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It covers like I think Los Angeles all the way up to almost
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San Francisco. It covers a huge amount of
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people. And he is now in charge of of
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that whole area. Funny with one of my buddies.
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San Diego, too, at Orange County.
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I don't know about Riverside. I assume Riverside.
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Probably parts of Riverside. I know one of my buddies just
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got appointed as US attorney down here in the Southern
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District. He's a federal society member,
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so cool for that as well. So we're getting some good US
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attorney picks right now. So he is now the lead prosecutor
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and he's unveiled this new program called Operation
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Guardian Angel. This is from the California
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Globe. I'm going to read a little bit
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of it for you. The new program, known as
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Operation Guardian Angel, would have the Central District of
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California US Attorney's Office working alongside Immigration
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and Customs Enforcement, the Border Patrol and Homeland
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Security Investigation, DEAFBI and the ATFS, basically
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everybody federally working together.
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The agencies would then sidestep around sanctuary city policies
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and go through criminal databases every day to find
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illegal aliens who were arrested and jailed the day before.
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By doing this, it would leave no question that the illegal aliens
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in question committed crimes and so that the Department of
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Justice can charge them with misdemeanor illegal entry or
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felony illegal re entry. According to the US Attorney's
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Office, the felons in county, country, county jails, country
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jails would then get federal warrants blocking their state
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release. The criminal illegal immigrants
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now facing felony criminal charges against them.
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They would then be deported. That's shown some early success.
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It was rolled out soft launch on May 10th and within five days,
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13 defendants were arrested. The operation is expected to
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grow from there. 1.5 million illegal immigrants live in the
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bounds of the Central District of California's jurisdiction,
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comprising the counties of LA, Orange, Riverside, San
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Bernardino, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura.
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Let's see, it is. As of 2019, ICE report found
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that California sanctuary policies led to thousands of
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illegal immigrant criminals being released each year.
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The program, when in full swing, could possibly issue warrants
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out to similar number each year. They go on to talk about how
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it's the brainchild of US Attorney Bill Asaley, who was
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appointed to the post by President Donald Trump only last
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month. In a series of statements the
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sale, he made it clear that while the state could ignore
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immigration detainer requests, they could not ignore federal
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arrest warrants. And with illegal immigrant
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felons with prior felonies being targeted, the common argument of
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quote, their only crime was entering without permission.
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And quote is virtually voided. Bill Sally says they have no
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choice. They will comply.
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If they don't comply, they interfere in our ability to
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arrest a federal felon. They can expect to face
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consequences for that. So I don't expect any resistance
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from the local authorities. This is the safest way for us to
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get criminal legal immigrants, get them while they're still in
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state custody and when they've been searched, they have no
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weapons and we can do a safe transfer.
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So basically smart on bill of salary to figure out that
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there's a difference between a detainer request, which is where
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federal authorities can go to the state and the sheriff and
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all that and say, hey, hold on to this person because we think
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they're here illegally and we want to arrest them based on
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that. And the state going, Nah, we're
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not going to waste our resources.
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Like this is part of the sanctuary thing is that they're
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not going to waste resources. They're not going to use
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resources to enforce or help enforce any illegal immigration.
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But now if there's a federal arrest warrant out forum state
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authorities can't interfere, which is against federal law.
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So basically you are forcing them to turn them over to the
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authorities. Smart, smart on their part
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because they're saying, well, they're looking at the criminal
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database. They're basically going, look,
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if you're a criminal and you've committed a felony and we found
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that you're here illegally because we're checking the
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database and we find that you're here illegally, then you've
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committed a felony. You here's a federal arrest
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warrant. You have to hand them over to
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us. So it's a brilliant way to
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sidestep the sanctuary policy and good out Bill Assaili, I
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would adventure. Bill Assaili probably knew how
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to do this and probably got in the ear of somebody close to
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President Trump and then like that got up to President Trump.
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He said, look, if you put me in, I'll do this and it's going to
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work. I would bet this has been in
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talks and it's been in plans for a while, and that's probably why
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he was appointed. Well, any thoughts on that?
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Well, yeah, I told you earlier as I was reading the article, I
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was like, wow, this is this is actually brilliant because it
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did kind of feel like California was just like, we don't care.
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There is illegal immigrants here committing felonies, whatever.
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Like, you know, it did feel that way.
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Like they were like, we're not, we're not going to help anybody.
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We got other things to do. You know, we're just going to
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turn our head and ignore that. And then all of a sudden enter
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Bill of Saly and like in a matter of days, they've got
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multiple arrests. And so I can only imagine how
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this is going to go going forward.
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Do you think what what do you think like Rob Bonta will do?
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How do they sue Trump again? I mean, he can try.
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Let's see. Did they say isn't no major
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lawmaker in favor of sanctuary laws has issued a statement?
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So as of last, I think this was last week, nobody's even said
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anything because Bill Assailey's right.
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If you interfere with federal law enforcement trying to
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execute a federal arrest warrant, you are interfering in
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that operation and then you are guilty of a crime.
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And I don't think any of these people want to be brought up on
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crimes. I I mean, they all act tough
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because they know there's probably not going to be any
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consequences. It's very easy to act tough when
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there's no skin in the game. But now with the, the threat
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that federal authorities can scoop you up and be like, Nope,
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you interfered. So now you're under arrest for
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this. I think they're all going to
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kind of be like, damn, this is kind of like checkmate for us.
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And and sort of the the sanctuary policies have been
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written a certain way that we're not actively.
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I guess you could say they were more passive than active in the
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sense of they weren't actively protecting illegal immigrants in
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California. Their whole thing, all the
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cities and the state have basically all said the same
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thing. We're not going to use our
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resources to help aid the federal authorities like ICE or
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Border Patrol or anything like that.
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They're not gonna interfere, but they won't assist.
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So that's sort of their legal way around it.
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But I think Bill Saley kind of found the checkmate of all
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right, well, you're not gonna you're not going to assist us.
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But if you you can't interfere, then we're going to do federal
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arrest warrants and you definitely can't interfere with
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those or we're going to start arresting you guys.
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So it would be interesting to see if like any of these
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attorney generals or like Attorney General Rob Bonta or
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any of these district attorneys can't get in the way and try and
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do something. And what happens?
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Will they get arrested like that congresswoman in New Jersey who
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trespassed on an ICE facility and then assaulted an ICE agent?
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Like, which is crazy that now they're trying to turn that into
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like a whole spectacle of, you know what, what this is Trump
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being a fascist and this is the fascist job about because he
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arrested a congresswoman and it's like, well, she did commit
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a crime. You did trespass and you did
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assault someone. I thought the whole thing was no
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one was above the law. So any any other thoughts about
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Bill Osaley's Checkmate? No, I'm just, I, I am excited to
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see where this goes. I, I do think that he's an
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extremely intelligent man. And like I said, reading that
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article, I was like, wow, go billa saley.
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Like I, I'm excited for what else he'll do.
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I will be interested to see if other US attorneys in California
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do the same thing. Like I said, new US attorney
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down here in San Diego in the Southern District.
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So maybe he'll start doing it. It makes sense down here in San
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Diego 'cause we're much closer to the border, so that we'll
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we'll get to see the results sooner rather than later.
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And, and I mean, it's only been a month, it's already been
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pretty successful. So we'll go from there.
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well, that wasn't the big story. This is the big story.
00:20:59
Gavin Newsom had an executive order.
00:21:03
All right, let's go back first about this because I'm going to
00:21:07
pull this up. I want to give you, I want, I
00:21:09
like to lay it out for everybody what's going on here and then
00:21:12
we'll talk about sort of the big story that's happening here.
00:21:14
Gavin Newsom was born. No one, just.
00:21:16
Kidding. OK, so Gavin Newsom was born.
00:21:19
He learned how to gel his hair at the age of 13.
00:21:23
All right, this is from September 23rd, 2020, so get
00:21:28
back in the Way Back machine. Back.
00:21:31
You know, back during COVID when you couldn't go in a restaurant,
00:21:35
you know, you couldn't go on the beach, anything like that,
00:21:38
California was basically completely shut down and Gavin
00:21:42
Newsom came out with an executive order.
00:21:44
This was not law, mind you. This was not our duly elective
00:21:48
representatives did not come up with this law.
00:21:51
Gavin Newsom came out with this executive order.
00:21:55
He announced that California will phase out gasoline powered
00:21:58
cars and drastically reduce demand for fossil fuel in
00:22:01
California's fight against climate change.
00:22:04
The. This is from the press release.
00:22:05
Executive Order direct state to require that by 2035, all new
00:22:09
cars and passenger trucks sold in California.
00:22:11
B0 Emission Vehicles Transportation currently
00:22:15
accounts for more than 50% of California's greenhouse gas
00:22:17
emissions. 0 Emission vehicles are a key part of California's
00:22:21
clean innovation economy, already California's second
00:22:25
largest global export market. Following the order, the
00:22:28
California Air Resources Board will develop regulations to
00:22:31
mandate that 100% of in state sales of new passenger cars and
00:22:36
trucks are 0 emission by 2035, a target which would achieve more
00:22:40
than 35% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions and an 80%
00:22:44
improvement in oxides and nitrogen emissions from cars
00:22:48
statewide. In addition, the Air Sort
00:22:51
Resources Board will develop regulations to mandate that all
00:22:53
operations of medium and heavy duty vehicles shall be 100% zero
00:22:57
emission by 2045 where feasible, with the mandate going into
00:23:01
effect by 2035 for Trayage trucks.
00:23:06
To ensure needed infrastructure to support 0 emission vehicles,
00:23:10
the order requires state agencies in partnership with the
00:23:13
private sector to accelerate deployment of a few affordable
00:23:16
fueling and charging options. I remember how much President
00:23:20
Biden dropped on charging stations and I think what like
00:23:24
20 were built. It was like billions of dollars.
00:23:26
I don't even think it was going to have those like less than 20
00:23:29
or something. So yeah, government on getting
00:23:32
on those charging stations, sure.
00:23:35
It also requires support of new and used 0 emission vehicle
00:23:38
markets to provide broad accessibility to 0 emission
00:23:40
vehicles for all Californians. The executive order will not
00:23:44
prevent Californians from owning gasoline powered cars or selling
00:23:47
them on the used market. This is this is a part that
00:23:54
where I have said this before, when government tries to create
00:23:59
demand for something, it always backfires.
00:24:03
You know, government cannot create demand for a product when
00:24:07
people don't want the product. So my perfect example is like
00:24:11
down here in San Diego, bike lanes.
00:24:14
The idea was we'll create all these bike lanes.
00:24:16
We're going to spend millions and millions of dollars on bike
00:24:18
lanes. Why?
00:24:20
Because then people will get the idea of, well, if there's bike
00:24:23
lanes, I'll just bike to work. Well, Fast forward, nobody in
00:24:29
San Diego, well, I shouldn't say nobody, literally almost nobody
00:24:34
does not use or doesn't use the bike lanes down here in San
00:24:38
Diego. They're just wasted.
00:24:40
They're wasted space. They're basically their own lane
00:24:43
that has taken up either a lane of traffic or parking.
00:24:47
And it's just one of those examples.
00:24:51
When government creates, tries to create the demand for
00:24:54
something, it always backfires. So the executive order goes on
00:24:57
to say I have. A serious question about those
00:25:00
bike lanes. Have you seen homeless
00:25:02
encampments taking over bike lanes?
00:25:07
It hasn't been that drastic yet because I think it there.
00:25:12
There's still people who use them, but rarely use them.
00:25:16
I've seen people who don't even are on bicycles and then they
00:25:19
don't even actually ride in the bike lanes.
00:25:23
They just ride on the street next to the bike lane.
00:25:25
And I'm like, but what are we doing here?
00:25:27
Like you have your own lane, why are you in my lane?
00:25:30
Well, and I want to add, because this is to your point that the
00:25:34
city of San Diego is adding more parking meters, obviously
00:25:40
because they're in a bunch of deficit.
00:25:42
And that's one way that they want to, you know, create some
00:25:44
revenue. But to your point, they created
00:25:47
a bunch of bike lanes that hardly anybody is using.
00:25:49
But clearly there's revenue and parking meters because people
00:25:53
are still driving their cars. And anyway, I know you're going
00:25:57
to, you're going to get to the point of the bike lanes.
00:26:00
The government tried to create this demand.
00:26:01
It didn't work, but there's evidence of that in the fact
00:26:05
that they're adding parking meters for revenue and.
00:26:09
They're doubling the price of parking fee so.
00:26:12
But like, yeah, they didn't do away with a bunch of the cars as
00:26:16
they had hoped, and so now they're taking advantage of
00:26:19
that. Anyway, Sorry, carry on.
00:26:22
Now, so it goes on to say, by the time the new rule goes into
00:26:25
effect, 0 emission vehicles will almost certainly be cheaper and
00:26:29
better than the traditional fossil fuel powered cars.
00:26:32
The upfront cost of electric vehicles are projected to reach
00:26:34
parity with conventional vehicles in just a matter of
00:26:37
years. And the cost of owning the car
00:26:40
both in maintenance and how much it costs to power the car mile
00:26:42
for mile is far less than a fossil fuel burning vehicle.
00:26:49
I mean, look, the electric cars are being are actually getting
00:26:53
more affordable. But this was 2020.
00:26:56
This was mostly on the back of the fact that I would say
00:27:00
private companies like Tesla were doing such a good job
00:27:04
making electric vehicles and then Ford got into it and then
00:27:07
they started to make electric vehicles.
00:27:08
There was a market. So could they, could someone
00:27:12
like Gavin Newsom sit here and go, oh, we created the market?
00:27:15
It's like, I would actually say you created the market because
00:27:18
of the fact that there's so much more incentives for you not to
00:27:21
drive a gas, gas powered car. One, because it's so damn
00:27:27
expensive in California to drive a gas powered car when gas
00:27:31
prices are flying up over $5 a gallon like.
00:27:34
A month of gas is seriously equivalent to a car payment.
00:27:39
Yeah, I mean, it's, you're talking hundreds and hundreds of
00:27:41
dollars for some people. And you know, it's a lot of
00:27:45
money to drive a gas powered car in California.
00:27:47
And of course, that has to do with the fact that like if, if
00:27:51
all things being equal, if California didn't hate gas and,
00:27:55
and refineries, oil refineries and all that, if we had actual
00:28:01
like parity with gas prices with other states, like let's say
00:28:04
Arizona and we were closer like, I don't know, under $3 or $2.00,
00:28:08
something like that. I don't think there'd be a
00:28:10
market in California for electric vehicles.
00:28:14
It would be, well, this is so much easier for me to have a gas
00:28:18
car and it doesn't cost me that much to fill it up because it's
00:28:21
two or three dollars a gallon. But it's almost like they've
00:28:24
created the disincentive and forced people out of gas cars
00:28:30
into electric cars in California because they've made gas so
00:28:35
expensive. Also because they give you the
00:28:37
incentives. If you drive an electric car,
00:28:39
you get to drive in the HOV lane.
00:28:41
Now I'm gonna tell everyone just to disclosure.
00:28:44
There's yeah, you get little points.
00:28:46
There are incentives, yeah. You get little, little little
00:28:49
brownies of of you know, good behavior of the bike.
00:28:51
Lane that you know the bikers aren't using.
00:28:54
That would be great. Could you imagine if you get to
00:28:55
use the bike lane as well? That'd be fantastic.
00:28:58
I mean, like I know you and you've talked about this year
00:29:00
you got a Tesla, it made sense for you and that and that's
00:29:04
totally fine that but you weren't forced into it.
00:29:07
It was a decision you made based on factors in your family that
00:29:11
just worked for you. Yeah, that's because the market
00:29:17
right now in California makes sense to buy an electric car.
00:29:20
But the idea of like 100% electric cars by 2035, which is
00:29:25
10 years from now, it's crazy, I think is almost mind boggling
00:29:30
because California can't even keep the lights on.
00:29:35
Think about how it's going to be in 2035 when you get brownout
00:29:40
alerts because it's too hot and people are cranking their ACS.
00:29:45
But guess what? You've made the whole state
00:29:48
drive electric cars and now they all got to be charging
00:29:50
somewhere. Electricity doesn't magically
00:29:53
pop up. I know they think it magically
00:29:55
pops up from like different green energy sources.
00:29:58
It's not nearly reliable enough, but better get your.
00:30:02
What are you going to do then? Make it make sure your bike's
00:30:06
all working and then you can take advantage of those bike
00:30:08
lanes when you're stuck not charging your vehicle well that.
00:30:12
'D be a lot of fun for people who live in like, Riverside
00:30:15
County and have to like, ride their bike to like, Los Angeles
00:30:18
or Orange County or something. Yeah, just get on that highway.
00:30:21
Just start paddling. Just get.
00:30:24
California traffic is a clear indicator of we're not riding
00:30:27
our bikes everywhere. I now I I sound like we like
00:30:31
hate bikes or something and we don't or I don't.
00:30:35
I don't hate bikes. I have a bike.
00:30:37
We have some nice paths that we can ride, but like we drive to
00:30:41
them. That's The funny thing.
00:30:42
Like I don't like go ride around my area.
00:30:45
We like we'll drive to a place where we can walk and ride
00:30:48
bikes, so. But again, that's your choice to
00:30:53
ride the bike as a recreational hobby.
00:30:56
You're not forced into it because of government policies,
00:31:00
right? Right.
00:31:01
I So that was you. Know like I hate bikes or
00:31:03
something and I'm not hating on I'm not hating on them so.
00:31:09
So that was Gavin Newsom's executive order.
00:31:12
Again, that was an executive order.
00:31:14
He this was not something that like representatives came to the
00:31:18
state legislature and said we're going to vote on this bill.
00:31:20
We're going to let you talk to your representatives about this.
00:31:23
Gavin Newsom just by like edict by King Newsom Power just said
00:31:28
this is going to go into effect. Even more terrifying I think
00:31:35
than the fact that most people won't have access to electric
00:31:40
cars or charging. Like how many people live in
00:31:43
apartments in California because it's unaffordable to buy a
00:31:46
house? Are they going to have enough
00:31:48
charging stations for all those people who live in apartments?
00:31:51
I doubt that. Are they going to start
00:31:53
requiring that's? A good point that I actually
00:31:55
never thought of. Because most apartment
00:31:57
buildings. House and you have an attached
00:31:59
garage or detached garage, but you have a garage or whatever
00:32:02
and you have the space to put in the charger.
00:32:05
That's one thing, but I didn't even think about like all the
00:32:07
apartments who don't necessarily like they just have parking
00:32:10
spots. Yeah, and, and usually there's
00:32:14
only like 5 charging stations like at an apartment complex
00:32:19
with how many hundreds of residents and cars like right,
00:32:22
Not enough like you'd be fighting people for for those
00:32:26
charging spots. Even more scary, I think, is the
00:32:30
fact that they wanted trucks to become all electric.
00:32:35
And I think I've brought this up before, but my wife works in the
00:32:39
transportation industry with trucks, like heavy duty, you
00:32:42
know, semi trucks. And this was a big point of
00:32:46
contention because of the fact that they would say, oh, by
00:32:51
2035, you have to tell us, like how you're going to implement
00:32:55
our plan to make trucks all electric.
00:32:59
The technology doesn't exist. Like there is no technology to
00:33:02
make semis all electric. And if they are, they are three
00:33:07
times more expensive than a normal semi truck.
00:33:10
They're unreliable. Where do you stop?
00:33:13
Like it's going to take over a day, I think to like recharge a
00:33:17
semi. So like goods are going to get
00:33:19
slowed down. I mean, there's like you want to
00:33:22
kill the California economy, just say that all trucks have to
00:33:27
be electric. That's a good way to kill all
00:33:29
the the entire economy. How are you going to get goods?
00:33:32
Then you start to get into like emissions and electric trucks
00:33:37
going into ports to like go get stuff from like the Port of LA
00:33:41
or like the Port of Long Beach, like Port of Oakland.
00:33:44
Now we're talking about like nothing will come out of
00:33:47
California and you want to kill the national economy.
00:33:50
Like this is just domino effect bad for the entire country if
00:33:55
this were to go through, and there are, yeah, go ahead.
00:34:01
My city Republic trash company, they got their first electric
00:34:07
all all electric truck and it operated one day and then like
00:34:14
shut down, powered off like halfway through the day.
00:34:18
This was just like a week or two ago.
00:34:21
Because think about how much electricity a truck like that,
00:34:25
that like it's lifting up the cans and then the stuff gets
00:34:29
jumped into the hopper. But then like the truck has to
00:34:31
like it has whatever parts I don't, I don't know.
00:34:34
But like that pushes all the stuff, you know, to the back.
00:34:37
And then the next one, like there's so much operation going
00:34:40
on in that that it's going to use up its electricity.
00:34:44
It's charged so quickly so it couldn't even complete a full
00:34:48
day's worth of work. Yeah, Yeah.
00:34:52
I think we're a long way away from trucks being anywhere close
00:34:55
to electric. And again, we come back to the
00:34:57
same issue of like, where are the trucks going to charge in
00:34:59
California? Takes a lot of energy to charge
00:35:03
up a truck and we don't have that electricity, especially at
00:35:06
the rates they're charging right now for like electric.
00:35:09
Is it going to be cheaper to charge your car pretty soon?
00:35:12
I don't know. It seems like Gavin Newsom and
00:35:14
these California Democrat buddies in Sacramento just keep
00:35:17
blank checking and rubber stamping any rate increase by
00:35:21
any of the utility companies. So it's like, is it ever going
00:35:25
to be really that much cheaper? So, so that's where we're at.
00:35:30
This was. Yeah, in 20 years when they're
00:35:32
like outlawing electric vehicles because or you're pushed back
00:35:36
into a gas vehicle because electricity is way too
00:35:38
expensive. And as something like a a state
00:35:42
emergency on the grid or something in 20.
00:35:44
Years we're going to be like, Nope, we need gas, gas powered
00:35:47
vehicles because it's it's way too much, too much effort, too
00:35:50
many complications are way too expensive to charge our electric
00:35:53
vehicles. Well, they've already banned was
00:35:57
the sale of like lawn mowers, gas powered lawn mowers and
00:36:00
stuff like that. Like you're like, OK, was that
00:36:04
was that contributing to climate change?
00:36:07
Like, I mean, you want to talk about a A tier in the ocean
00:36:11
compared to like what India and China are doing?
00:36:14
Like that's nothing that wow, we've been.
00:36:18
We talked about it before, the whole sewage coming in from
00:36:21
Mexico at the border. It's not even at the border,
00:36:24
just coming in from Mexico. And it's like, what are they
00:36:26
going to do about that? That's that's disgusting
00:36:28
pollution. I don't know if your beaches are
00:36:31
even your oceans are ready to swim in again, I have no idea.
00:36:34
I I just know that was a whole disaster.
00:36:38
Imperial Beach, I'm sure is not you can't swim in Imperial
00:36:41
Beach. I think it farther up the coast
00:36:44
because I think that the IT goes out so this way.
00:36:47
So it like comes up. I'm not doing a really good job
00:36:49
of like it comes up from TJ and then it gets like pushed out
00:36:53
away from like PB and OB and all those places.
00:36:57
But no, it's gross. Like why?
00:36:59
Why are San Diego citizens dealing with literal sewage
00:37:03
coming up from TJ and we're worried about gas powered lawn
00:37:07
mowers as if that's our biggest issue.
00:37:10
Right. Well, cuz if we're trying to
00:37:12
save the environment, that is definitely a huge issue.
00:37:15
And I've, I've spoken about this before, I've lived in California
00:37:18
my entire life in Orange County visiting the beach, you know,
00:37:22
probably like since I was like 6 months old and it was, the
00:37:26
beaches were grosser. And I, I can see that the
00:37:30
improvements like things that they've worked on, it has
00:37:33
genuinely helped. Our beaches have gotten so much
00:37:35
prettier. Our oceans are so much clearer.
00:37:36
Like they're like blue now. They were not blue when I was a
00:37:38
kid. It was like brown.
00:37:41
And I understand that we have different factors that go into
00:37:43
it, but there was environmental factors that they were like
00:37:46
passing legislation and it really did get cleaned up.
00:37:50
Like now, as, you know, an adult, I can, I could go to the
00:37:52
beach and I'm like, wow, they really, I remember as a child,
00:37:55
this was not clear and pretty. And now we're just clear and
00:37:59
pretty. And and so they worked so hard
00:38:02
on that for decades, they accomplished much, and now
00:38:05
they're just going to ignore that issue.
00:38:07
So, yeah, if we're really so concerned about the environment,
00:38:11
I don't know why we're just letting that slide.
00:38:15
What wasn't the whole argument for why they banned plastic bags
00:38:21
and then they charge for plastic bags was, well, the plastic or
00:38:26
the plastic straws as well. They end up in the ocean and
00:38:29
they kill the sea turtles. Well, I'm not sure a mouthful of
00:38:34
raw sewage from TJ is good for the sea turtles as well.
00:38:39
I'm just going to go ahead and say that I'm no marine
00:38:41
biologist. I know tonight's really not
00:38:43
supposed to be about the environment, but just to go back
00:38:45
to all their weird hypocrisy, it's just like, why do they
00:38:49
continuously choose one thing over the other?
00:38:51
And like, like I just said, I know that they worked so hard to
00:38:55
clean our oceans and they did. And now they're just, it's like,
00:38:59
OK, that's done. I guess we ignore it now.
00:39:01
It that's so weird to me. No, let's keep them clean.
00:39:05
I liked when they were clean. It was beautiful.
00:39:10
Let's see. All right, I have to find a link
00:39:15
that I'm now posting because the link that I was looking at, all
00:39:20
of a sudden, after reading it, they go.
00:39:23
If you want to keep reading, make sure you sign up.
00:39:26
Oh geez. Everything's behind a paywall
00:39:28
nowadays. All right, Fast forward to
00:39:32
today. The Senate came out and voted to
00:39:40
voted 5144 to overturn a waiver allowing California to set its
00:39:44
own air pollution standards for cars that are stricter than
00:39:47
national regulations. The Senate has overruled its
00:39:52
parliamentary a handful of times in the 90 year history of the
00:39:56
role. The Senate also voted to revoke
00:39:58
2 waivers related to heavy duty trucks.
00:40:00
One allowed California mandate 0 emission trucks and the other
00:40:02
permitted stricter emissions standard for new diesel trucks.
00:40:06
Congress is using a law called the Congressional Review Act, or
00:40:09
CRA, as a mechanism to revoke the federal waivers that allowed
00:40:13
California set these rules. The House previously approved 3
00:40:15
resolutions to revoke the waivers.
00:40:18
But there's significant questions about whether this use
00:40:20
of the CRA is legal. The Government Accountability
00:40:23
Office and the Senate parliamentary, who serve as
00:40:25
referees within the federal government, both determine that
00:40:28
it is not. The GA OS opinion is merely
00:40:33
advisory. The parliamentary's guidance is
00:40:34
also non binding, but the Senate has traditionally followed it.
00:40:39
So let's back up a little bit. There's this person called the
00:40:44
parliamentary parliamentarian in Congress.
00:40:49
There are, and actually in most legislatures, there are rules of
00:40:54
what you have to do and follow. You can't just show up and do
00:40:57
whatever you want. And like there's rules how you
00:40:59
introduce bills how you like. There's formal procedures,
00:41:02
decorum and rules of how things like actually move through
00:41:05
Senate and Congress. This parliamentarian is somebody
00:41:09
who is basically like the expert on the rules.
00:41:12
And they're like, look, we know everything inside and out.
00:41:16
Our advice or guidance can tell you like, you should or should
00:41:21
not do this. So the parliamentarian was
00:41:24
asked, hey, can we as the Senate vote to revoke this waiver for
00:41:30
California to institute these strict emissions?
00:41:36
Now they were granted these waivers to do what they want and
00:41:42
do these emissions under the Clean Air Act because they were
00:41:45
stricter than the federal regulations.
00:41:49
I'm sorry, I'm getting super wonky tonight.
00:41:50
But I think it it's important for people to understand like
00:41:54
what's going on here. This is not necessarily a slam
00:41:56
dunk that this is going through. So I want people to understand
00:42:00
that that like this could be like fought out in court and
00:42:04
they could actually end up losing.
00:42:05
This could go back into effect. So where was I going with that
00:42:11
whole thought? Oh, so federal regulations, when
00:42:15
federal government makes a rule about a certain topic, states
00:42:22
can make laws that are stricter than the federal parameters,
00:42:29
right? So they can go, they can
00:42:32
basically follow the federal law in the federal regulations, or
00:42:36
they can go stricter, but they cannot go like broader.
00:42:40
So they can't make, they can't try and override federal law by
00:42:45
making it broader or include more things that they're not
00:42:48
supposed to. California was granted A waiver
00:42:54
because under the Clean Air Act, their executive order was
00:43:00
stricter than what the Clean Air Act had recommended for motor
00:43:04
vehicles. So basically they're like, hey,
00:43:07
here's our standard. If you want to go even stricter,
00:43:10
that's up to you guys. You can do that.
00:43:12
You just can't go broader than us or easier than us.
00:43:15
So they got this waiver. That's when they came up with
00:43:19
this executive order. Then they came up with this ban,
00:43:22
this gas car ban. Everyone's still on the same
00:43:26
page, everyone in the chat, everyone's still figure
00:43:28
following. I think it's a lot.
00:43:30
Following. OK, so this waiver has been in
00:43:33
place since 2020. They've been allowed to do this.
00:43:36
Senate comes in and goes, hold on, we want to turn over this
00:43:41
rule because of this Congressional Review Act Wonky
00:43:47
again. I should just have like a wonk
00:43:49
alert for anybody who is not into the wonky stuff.
00:43:52
I'm sorry. You need a whiteboard.
00:43:55
I do need a whiteboard. Pie charts like the.
00:43:58
Whole. It's all charted out whole.
00:43:59
Thing. The Congressional Review Act was
00:44:03
actually just passed in 1996, not that long ago, because what
00:44:08
had happened is the administrative state EPA.
00:44:12
I'm trying to think of some other ones, the EPA, some other
00:44:14
big ones, like big federal agencies started passing too
00:44:19
many rules and regulations that were not in line with what
00:44:22
Congress authorized them to do. So Congress, when they create a
00:44:28
law, they'll say, OK, we're going to leave it to the EPA to
00:44:31
come up with the specifics because we're not experts.
00:44:34
We'll leave it to the EPA Now. Administrative state has lost
00:44:38
some of its power recently because of the Supreme Court
00:44:40
whole nother story. Don't not going down that rabbit
00:44:43
hole, but these agencies do promulgate rules and
00:44:49
regulations. But because Congress gave the
00:44:52
administrative state the power, they came up with this
00:44:55
Congressional Review Act, which basically says if Congress
00:44:59
within 60 days of this new rule doesn't like it, they can vote
00:45:03
to disapprove it, which then negates the rule, basically
00:45:07
overturns it. No, no, no, that wasn't our
00:45:09
intent by giving you this power. Basically it's a check on the
00:45:12
administrative state. So they don't just run away with
00:45:15
their power. And basically Congress is a now
00:45:18
a check on the administrative state and actually.
00:45:22
That keeps states in check. Or just the administrative
00:45:26
state? OK.
00:45:28
So like if the EPA, well, in this case, like if the EPA comes
00:45:32
out with a new rule and then Congress goes whoa, whoa, whoa,
00:45:37
whoa, wait a second, that wasn't what we gave you authority to
00:45:40
do. They can then go, hey, within 60
00:45:45
days of that new rule, they can take a vote to disapprove that
00:45:49
rule, basically negate the. Rule, you just said that, but I
00:45:52
had to just kind of like. Yeah, you know what would?
00:45:55
You repeat yourself, I'm sorry. That's fine.
00:45:58
You got to verbalize it out. So basically this, this is also
00:46:04
used a lot when there's like different presidents coming in.
00:46:07
So like when there's a big turnover, presidents will often
00:46:12
come in. They'll change.
00:46:13
Like we didn't like that rule that you guys institute.
00:46:16
We're going to disprove that. And like, it's a big, it's been
00:46:19
used sparingly. In fact, it hasn't really been
00:46:22
used that much. George W Bush was the first
00:46:24
person to ever use it. He did one, Donald Trump, not
00:46:29
surprisingly did like 16 or 17 in his first term.
00:46:32
So, you know, do with that what you will.
00:46:36
But Biden did like 8 or something.
00:46:38
So it wasn't like they're they're using it more and more.
00:46:43
So basically here we are 2025, the Senate goes, hey, we don't
00:46:49
like this whole electric car and gas car ban happening out in
00:46:54
California. We see this is going to be a big
00:46:57
issue. Therefore, we want to do the
00:47:00
Congressional Review Act to nullify or void this whole
00:47:06
waiver. Now to see if you're paying
00:47:10
attention, quiz time. Why might that be a problem
00:47:15
based on what I just said? Because it's been more than 60
00:47:18
days, but maybe I don't know where you're.
00:47:22
Talking about that. Well, that but also.
00:47:26
It's not that's a a state there. It exceeds the federal level and
00:47:35
the state has permission to do that.
00:47:39
Yes, that is correct. They do it.
00:47:41
States can be more strict under the federal law.
00:47:45
The issue is, and this is going to be litigated and I, I
00:47:49
guarantee this is going to be litigated.
00:47:50
So that's why I'm telling everybody who's listening, don't
00:47:53
celebrate, don't pop the champagne yet.
00:47:55
This is not is far from over. And you know, Rob Bonds is going
00:47:58
to sue over this. They were granted A waiver.
00:48:03
This was not a new rule. So California was granted A
00:48:06
waiver under the EPA to pursue this gas car ban.
00:48:13
And it's all going to come down to whether or not you can do a
00:48:17
waiver or a rule or it could be both.
00:48:22
So that's really where we're at right now is, yes, it's been
00:48:26
overturned temporarily by the Senate.
00:48:29
They, again, the parliamentarian is not binding.
00:48:32
They can just advise you and be like, hey, like this is the
00:48:36
rules of the Senate. Here's what we think Senate can
00:48:39
say. Screw off.
00:48:41
We don't care. Like we're going to do it
00:48:42
anyway, which is what happened, is that they voted 51 to 44 to
00:48:47
overturn that. When I actually you answered my
00:48:50
1 main question because when I was reading the article, I the
00:48:54
whole time I was like, I have to ask Phil, does he think this is
00:48:57
going to be challenged what you just said?
00:48:59
Yes. Yeah, it's, it's absolutely
00:49:02
going to be challenged. And I think it's it's probably
00:49:05
going to be joined probably by Washington because I think they
00:49:09
have some rule as well that they're trying to implement when
00:49:11
it comes to gas cars. So they're probably going to
00:49:15
jump in as well. But yeah, California is
00:49:17
definitely going to challenge this.
00:49:20
And it I mean, it's worth the question, excuse me, worth the
00:49:27
question, whether a waiver or a rule is what can be overturned.
00:49:34
Now the other side of this is the actual political
00:49:38
ramifications of Republicans doing this is if you remember
00:49:44
back, Harry Reid didn't listen to the parliamentarian who said
00:49:48
you need 60 votes to to confirm federal Court justices.
00:49:55
He went around that and said Nope, screw you.
00:49:57
It's going to be a simple majority from here on out.
00:50:00
He went the nuclear option because they wanted to patent,
00:50:02
you know, want to appoint more people under Obama.
00:50:06
That obviously came back to bite them in the ass because then
00:50:09
Donald Trump gets in and now you have 51 majority.
00:50:12
Now he appointed 4 Supreme Court justices with the simple
00:50:17
majority. So Democrats are saying to
00:50:20
Republicans right now, hey, be careful what you wish for
00:50:24
because down the line when if we get back in control, we may
00:50:29
start overturning a lot of things that the administrative
00:50:32
state is doing that you guys like, whether it's tax codes or
00:50:36
stuff like that, Like we can go and do that stuff now.
00:50:40
Chuck Schumer said it as a threat.
00:50:42
Like, what did he, what did he say?
00:50:43
Something like it's going to come back to bite you or be
00:50:45
careful, something like that. But the way.
00:50:47
He actually, yeah, he had a like go.
00:50:50
Go to bed. Go to bed old man, like nobody
00:50:52
listens to you. He's got like I think his
00:50:54
approval reigns like 18% or something.
00:50:56
He's like so pathetic at this point.
00:51:00
I could honestly see like AOC unseating him for Senate at this
00:51:05
point. Maybe.
00:51:08
I think there's a good chance of it.
00:51:09
But so that's where we're at right now.
00:51:12
I'm sorry if I, I bored everyone to tears with the wonky stuff,
00:51:16
but it is really important that we discuss it because I, I don't
00:51:20
want people to get this idea of like, oh, it's been overturned.
00:51:23
It's all over. Like, believe me, I'm happy that
00:51:27
the federal government is getting rid of this rule.
00:51:29
I think this rule is stupid. I think the ban is going to hurt
00:51:33
California and Californians in 10 years.
00:51:36
I think it's it's not going to make sense.
00:51:38
They're not going to figure out the infrastructure, $12 billion
00:51:41
in, you know, $12 billion budget deficit.
00:51:44
Where are they getting money for all these charging stations that
00:51:46
they think they're going to build?
00:51:48
Like, you know, President Biden had billions and billions of
00:51:51
dollars for his chargers and built like three of them.
00:51:55
I don't know, like where do you think California is going to get
00:51:57
the money from? So that's basically where we're
00:52:01
at. Any questions, comments,
00:52:03
thoughts? I know I was rambling and.
00:52:05
Just to play devil's advocate here, because now I agree with
00:52:08
you, this is it's a stupid thing.
00:52:10
And like as we discussed, it's sort of like let you know right
00:52:13
now electric vehicles are expensive, but as technology
00:52:16
improves, the cost comes down. Like let it let people adapt and
00:52:22
adopt, you know, it, it's just, it naturally happens.
00:52:25
Like don't force us into electric vehicles, but we will
00:52:27
get there naturally on our own. We, we will.
00:52:30
And, and so I agreed, like trying to enforce this.
00:52:34
It's just like, come on, government, back off.
00:52:37
Like, don't tell me what to drive.
00:52:39
Just seriously, just leave me alone.
00:52:41
And, and so we are very like, we always preach about like local
00:52:45
elections, the local matters, like let all these things.
00:52:49
But now it is funny on this issue, we're sort of like, yes,
00:52:53
the, the federal government, let's let them come in and
00:52:55
overturn this and see what happens.
00:52:59
But that, I mean, that is why I guess we have a federal
00:53:02
government. Like I know we're both fans of
00:53:03
the Constitution as much as we want the smaller government
00:53:06
where we love the Constitution. You know, we're very pro United
00:53:09
States, we're very pro local government, but our when it
00:53:14
comes to California, our local government's insane.
00:53:16
So. Yeah, Like, yeah, we do preach a
00:53:21
lot about local government, but this is also why we have a
00:53:27
system of federalism of like, you know, it's like layers of a
00:53:30
cake is so there's checks and balances of like, one state
00:53:34
can't go like, way too deep off, you know, far off the end.
00:53:38
Like somebody has to be able to put their foot down and be like,
00:53:40
Nope, wait, that's too crazy. That's against the Constitution
00:53:43
or that's against our laws. Can't do that.
00:53:45
It's going to hurt people. I mean, otherwise there wouldn't
00:53:48
really be a sense of national unity if there wasn't one
00:53:52
overriding, like government to governmental authority.
00:53:57
But yeah, I mean, look, I'm a fan of like the free market does
00:54:00
what the free market does. I know people are going to say,
00:54:02
well, you know, Tesla didn't get popular because of the free
00:54:04
market. Tesla was given tax credits and
00:54:07
and it was given sort of leeway because the federal government
00:54:11
got out of the way of Tesla and let it do its thing.
00:54:15
And now it's wildly successful. And Tesla, I would say, changed
00:54:20
the game for electric cars where people were more interested in
00:54:22
electric cars. I feel like electric cars before
00:54:24
Tesla were like really dumb looking.
00:54:27
Like they were all kind of like, I'm trying to remember like the
00:54:31
electric cars before, like the Nissan Leaf, I think was like
00:54:34
something like that. It just looked like goofy.
00:54:35
It looked like a clown car. But then like Tesla came out and
00:54:38
was like, Hey, here's a really nice looking sedan and people
00:54:41
were like, whoa, that's what electric cars going to look
00:54:43
like. But my point is, is that the
00:54:45
free market, like somebody came in, Elon Musk came in and said,
00:54:49
Hey, I'm going to build a car that people want to drive.
00:54:52
Sooner or later. I'm going to make it more
00:54:53
affordable for BL drive. Oh, by the way, I'm also going
00:54:56
to put up like Tesla charging stations all over the place.
00:55:00
So they're like gas stations and it's easy to supercharge your
00:55:03
Tesla like when you go eat lunch somewhere or like you go
00:55:06
shopping. So like the, the market created
00:55:09
these incentives for people to buy, but when you force people
00:55:14
and the government goes, Oh no, you got to, you have to get into
00:55:16
electric cars, I feel like the result is never as good as they
00:55:20
expect it to be. Like it always ends up being
00:55:24
the, the it's not as good because people aren't voting
00:55:26
with their dollars. They're forced into it instead.
00:55:29
And it's kind of like when something by the government is
00:55:32
forced down your throat, The person who is providing that
00:55:35
service usually ends up not carrying too much.
00:55:40
It's kind of like we talked about the monopoly with like
00:55:42
garbage companies. Like at the end of the day, like
00:55:45
when somebody has a monopoly granted by the government, do
00:55:48
they really care or like, do they really provide the best
00:55:51
service in the world? I wouldn't think so.
00:55:53
Kind of like. Colleges.
00:55:56
Kind of like colleges. Yeah, when they're when, you
00:55:59
know, they think that they have a monopoly.
00:56:01
I should say you. Know college loans are an actual
00:56:06
example when they provide all of the college loans and then you
00:56:11
know they're backed up by the federal government.
00:56:13
Of course the university is like why charge $15 a year?
00:56:18
Let's charge 70. Federal government's paying for
00:56:21
it anyway, who cares? I mean we want to talk about
00:56:24
price inflation due to what the government does.
00:56:30
I've been getting 2 car tested for 30.
00:56:32
Somebody said I've been getting 2 car tested for 30 years.
00:56:35
Never a failure. Lots of time and money wasted.
00:56:38
Not really sure with that. OK.
00:56:41
But yeah, that's basically where we're at right now is it's not
00:56:47
over. I mean, it's it's over in the
00:56:49
sense of like is done for now, but I bet it's going to get held
00:56:55
up in court. So don't celebrate quite yet.
00:56:59
I know the the the headlines are going to flash across.
00:57:01
Everyone's going to celebrate and say this is a big win, could
00:57:05
be a good win. We don't know if it's going to
00:57:08
be a good win yet, so hold on to your hats because who knows
00:57:12
where it's going to go from here.
00:57:15
All right, any other there was another topic we could get.
00:57:19
Well, I think we'll get into it next week.
00:57:21
I want we were you sent me the thing about the CIF, the
00:57:24
California, what was it the California Institute or
00:57:28
something about? I know I say you that, but I
00:57:31
didn't even go into that. But yeah, we'll just discuss it
00:57:33
another time. It was the California, Oh, I
00:57:37
have it up here. The California Interscholastic
00:57:43
Federation on Tuesday announced a pilot entry process for the
00:57:48
upcoming track and field championship, allowing A
00:57:50
biological female student athlete to compete who may
00:57:53
otherwise been displaced from gaining entry to the competition
00:57:56
by a trans athlete. So here we are again, federal
00:58:00
versus state, federal versus state power.
00:58:03
So. They're talking about
00:58:05
introducing like a men's, women's and transgender
00:58:08
division. Is that?
00:58:11
I yeah, I have to look at it a little bit more, but it was like
00:58:13
they're going to award winners based on your gender anyway.
00:58:17
So like even if they compete in the same I don't it's confusing
00:58:22
to me. We'll.
00:58:24
Look into it. We'll look into it next week.
00:58:26
I think that's a, that's a good segue and like teaser for next
00:58:29
week, because we'll look into this whole issue for next week,
00:58:32
the California Interscalactic Federation, whatever rule.
00:58:36
And basically President Trump came out and said, OK, you're
00:58:39
going to violate Title 9. I think we're going to start
00:58:42
cutting federal funding. So, you know, the the fight
00:58:46
between the federal government and California continues.
00:58:49
So with that, any other final thoughts or comments?
00:58:53
I. Don't think so.
00:58:56
OK, we covered a lot of wonky stuff tonight.
00:58:58
I'm sorry guys, we covered a lot of wonky stuff.
00:59:00
That's why I threw the Charlie Brown clip in there and try and
00:59:02
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