Ep. 273: California to Give Illegal Immigrants $0 Down, Home Loans

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on everybody? Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California Underground

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Podcast. I am your host, Phil, and as always with me, my trusty co-host, the best, the

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: fastest researcher in the West. Camille, how are you doing today, Camille?

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Good, good. I'm moving to Switzerland.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what we've decided after the topic of today's show and the stupidity of Sacramento

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: politicians. We're just gonna, we I think we're gonna move to Scotland. Scotland is

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: lovely.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_06]: For vacation.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Could do that. Yeah. I'm sure there'll be people who like don't go to Europe. But you

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: know, Scotland is beautiful. And Scotland. And they actually just booted out their woke

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Prime Minister. So good on Scotland. But that's not the point of tonight's episode.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Not the point of tonight. But as we were discussing our topic via text and kind of

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_06]: the updates, that's when I was like, Well, I'm moving to Switzerland. And you're

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_06]: like, Yeah, we're moving to Scotland.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We just we were done. We're trying to do our best here. But tonight's episode,

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: which actually is like perfectly timed. And we were talking about this before

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: we like hopped on. Me personally, I know it's made national news when my dad in New

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Jersey, text me about how much would $150,000 down payment in California get you.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when I was like, this is made national news. Now, this is a big story.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So what we're going to talk about in a minute or so is this bill AB 1840, which

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: opens up, I'm not gonna you know, we're gonna get into the fact checking, we're

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna make sure we get down to the brass tacks. And we're gonna read the

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: bill, we're gonna, you know, fact check everything so that you know exactly all

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the facts. And we're not approaching this from a purely emotional and kind of

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: red meat, stay in a, you know, standpoint, which has never been our show

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway, we're never that type of show. But we're going to look at it in about

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: a minute or so. And we're going to talk about it, we're going to talk

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: about what this means and what, where it's going, what it could mean and the

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: results of it. And sort of the lunacy of it and any other policies. But

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: before we get started, we started a new trend last week. And we're gonna keep

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: trying it until viewers tell us to stop. Until people start sending rage

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: mail, like email and DMS and stuff like stop doing this. Last week, we debuted

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: the cringy Kamala moment of the week. We have kind of expanded it to include

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: cringy material in general and politics. So to start off,

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to say something about this because we have a lot of discussions

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_06]: that are not on here about some very cringe things that happen on both

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_06]: sides. And I feel like I feel like people would actually want to hear that.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But maybe we should charge like $5 a month and you get California

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: underground, underground. Like we share some of these, it's a total

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_06]: gossip, but it's absolutely the cringiest things happening. So

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_06]: California, I don't know after hours. Yes, something like that. Like,

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how's the work, sub stack or whatever. I don't know. But

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_06]: like, I totally think people in the comments, you should tell us would you

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_06]: willing to pay for that like extra extra insider info of like, the stuff

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_06]: that we really gossip about?

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, carry on really kind of trash talk about. So this week's

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: installment of cringy moments in politics has something to do with

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala Harris, but it actually features one of our own politicians

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: from right here in California. So we're tying it all together. It's

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: California politicians. It's Kamala Harris. It happened at the DNC last

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: week. Now I thought this was actually pretty interesting. It's

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: California Lieutenant Governor. And I'm going to butcher her name.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say Elena, Kona, Kona lockers. I'm assuming

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: that's Greek. Apologies to anyone who's Greek out there and I

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: can't say your last name. She got invited to go speak at the DNC

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: but noodles did not which is why I'm wearing my noodles shirt

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: today he got dissed. He was not invited to speak a lot of other

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: people were invited to speak Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton. You

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: know, they dragged up everybody Joe Biden spoke, the Obama's

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: came out Oprah, but Gavin Newsom rising star in the

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Democratic Party, womp womp was not invited to speak. But his

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: lieutenant governor was so she came out and gave a quick

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: little like three minute like pump up speech for everybody.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, there's a point in it. I'm just going to give

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: a little hint of what to listen for regarding what makes this so

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: cringy is just listen for the topic of birthdays. That's all

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say just listen for the topic of birthdays,

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: regarding this video. And yeah, we're gonna watch it.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I can personally attack is a leader.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't even close.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think nobody knows who she is here.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's just like,

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: when we were both young women trying to navigate the halls of

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: power. I worked in housing. She had just been elected

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_03]: district attorney. We got frequent lunches together and

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: she was funny and fun. She was also a great mentor. Once I

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: told her about a professional experience of being minimized

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: because I was a woman. She put her fork down and said,

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Eleni never let anybody make you feel small.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: She slammed her fork down.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw her put that creed into action. When Wall Street

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: foreclosed on millions of homes, Washington wisdom was that

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: $4 billion was the best you could do. Other attorneys

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: general agree. But because Kamala Harris grew up in a

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: middle class home, she knew that wasn't enough for all the

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: working families who got screwed over. So she put her foot

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_03]: down and refused to settle for less. Kamala Harris won $20

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: billion from the big banks for California homeowners because

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: she cares. She cares so much that if you're lucky enough to

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: be her friend, she calls you on her birthday and sometimes

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: she says,

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So she Kamala Harris, if you're lucky enough to be Kamala

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Harris's friend, she will call you on her birthday. Just just

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to let you know, hey, it's my birthday. Is there something

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you should be saying to me right now? Maybe you should be

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: wishing me something right now. Did you is a card in the

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: mail?

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you post a story about me?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_06]: About this video?

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she is. I think I'm pretty sure she has announced

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: she is going to run in 2026. I think she's officially put in

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: papers.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_06]: So I've tried to figure out if there's like, if this is

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of like her introduction to everyone like, Hey, I know

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: you don't know who I am because why would you but I'm

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_06]: the lieutenant governor of California. And then she

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: speaks as though she's reading a children's story to

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_06]: like a group of kindergartens. And then she's down her

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_06]: fork. Sorry, the rejection is very like, you know, like the

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_06]: way that you would read a kid's story and then baby

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_06]: bunny said to mommy bunny.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, then what happened? And then she called her you on her

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: birthday, just to remind you it's her birthday.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she meant on your birthday.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she probably meant on your birthday, but the way it

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: came out is just like on her birthday, she'll call you

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like, Oh, lucky me. She'll call me on her birthday.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to start doing that as Kamala Harris leads the

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: way like I'm gonna start calling other people on my

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: birthday. So there was a couple of there was something

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: else that we were talking about right before.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless, this will be the last nice thing. And then I

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: promise we're going to get into the show people are

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: probably like, I want to hear about legal aliens getting

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: free money.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: They left with us started saying that we should charge

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_06]: for our gossip. They're like, they were like, No,

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: now we're out.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So today happened in in Sacramento. This was Josh

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Hoover, a former guest of the show. They were

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: protesting plastic grocery bags. There was a rally at

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: California Capitol. And they had a blow up turtle, which I

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: guess is to signify saved the turtles. And the turtle if

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you look really closely as being powered by a gas

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: generator.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a plastic, it's a big old plastic.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big old plastic turtle powered by a gas

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: generator. So for all those environmentalists who are

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to make a point, you failed on a bunch of

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so on to the more serious topic of tonight,

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: California giving or wanting to give illegal aliens $150,000

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: as starter or zero down home loans to buy a house in

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: California. So let's give a little bit of a

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: background here what this is. So I know the

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: national news has probably picked up the story is

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: very salacious.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's give you a little background. So there is this

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: program, and it's called the California dream for all,

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: which has already been in effect for only one year.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It was initially conceived as focusing on higher

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: cost parts of the state where it's especially hard

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to use existing down payment programs. And that

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: was not an unequivocal success. So they started

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: this program where you can apply and includes a

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: requirement that at least one home buyer in each

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: transaction be a first generation home buyer,

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: defined as someone who has never owned a home

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and whose parents also did not own a home or

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: someone who grew up in foster care. The state

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: also lowered the income eligibility threshold from

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: 150% of the area median income to 120%, a

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: number that ranges from $95,000 a year in

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Fresno County to about $215,000 in Santa Clara

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: County. So the goal of it was that they were

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: going to give out these loans and I put loans

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: in quotes because it's not well, it's a loan

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: that you have to pay back to the state

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: eventually. But it's not like a loan that you

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: have to like pay monthly kind of there's Yeah,

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like it's it depends on whether you sell

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the house at like a markup and you can then

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: you have to pay the state back if I think if

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: you sell at a loss, you don't have to pay

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: back the state or if you hold on to it forever.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't figured that part out yet. What

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: happens if you just hold on to it forever and

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: put it in a trust and keep handing it down to

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: your kids? Will the state ever get paid back?

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows? I mean, politicians don't think

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that far ahead. They just think about the

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: immediate news headline. So that has already

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: been in effect. That's the program that has

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: been in effect here in California. It was a

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: rousing success when it first was implemented.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What was it like 80,000 people applied for

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the first year and only 1700?

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, 1700. So we're like basically via lottery

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_06]: we're lucky enough to snap those loans.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Not great odds. But it was obviously

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: enormous or popular because if you can get

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: $150,000 as someone who is went to go look

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to buy a house in the past couple years

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: $150,000 down payment can really help with

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: those monthly payments in the mortgage

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and buying a house in California. I mean, if

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: you think about some people are playing like

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 3% down. If you're putting 150 down,

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that's pretty good on it. You know,

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that's almost 10, 20% on a lot of stuff.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a big chunk of change. So this

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: new bill that has been making its way

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: through the California legislature, which is

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: now being kind of noticed by everybody in

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: the national news, it's been slowly making

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: its way through and now all of a sudden

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: everyone's starting to pay attention to it.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's AB 1840 home purchase assistance

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: program eligibility. It was amended by

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the Senate and was advanced by the

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Senate. It says existing law establishes

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the California Housing Finance Agency

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: in the Department of Housing and

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Community Development and authorizes

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the agency to among other things, make

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: loans to finance affordable housing,

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: including residential structures, housing

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: developments, multifamily rental housing,

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: special needs housing and other forms of

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: housing as specified. Okay, so that's

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: everything we already know. That's the

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: California dream for all. But here is

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: where the controversy comes in. They

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: amended it to say this bill would specify

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that applicant who meets all other

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: requirements for a loan under the

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: program. So that's everything we talked

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: about like income requirement, first

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: generation and everything like that. But

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: not limited to any requirements imposed

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: on the agency administering the program

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: by specified entities and who is

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: otherwise eligible under applicable

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: federal and state law shall not be

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: disqualified solely based on the

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: applicant's immigration status. So

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: that's new. That's what they're

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: adding. Yes. So to answer the

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: question, is California given home

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: loans to illegal immigrants? Possibly, I

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: say possibly because we'll get to that

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: in a little bit. foreshadowing. So

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: that is making its way through right

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: now. We need special effects. I

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: forgot the stinger for the I forgot

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: the stinger for the cringy moment. But

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway, so right now it's in

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: progress as of 819 introduced first

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: committee review first chamber now has

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to go back through second committee

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: review second chamber. So it's got some

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: steps to go through but the fact that

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it's making its way through the

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: legislature, obviously is raising

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_06]: eyebrows assembly snow and senate.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's had a good run so far.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: For I feel like we need to do like

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a schoolhouse rocks episode where like

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: we explained like how does a bill

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: become a law in California. So this is

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: from zero hedge which is sort of a

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: night I guess you could say it's a

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: national news. You know, it's very

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: popular zero hedge. I like zero

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: hedge. I like reading the economic

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: news on zero hedge. And I saw this

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think I saw this last week

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's when I sent it to you

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and so okay, this is gonna be this

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: week's episode. Zero hedge says

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: progressive lawmakers in California have

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: pushed forward a bill that prioritizes

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: illegal aliens over veterans and

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: hardworking citizens by offering them

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: zero down payment loans through the

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: state's first time homebuyer program.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This outrageous legislation is a slap

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: in the face to California citizens

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: who are already struggling under

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: failed by dynamics, which has

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: triggered an inflation storm

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: nationwide. Quote, the social and

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: economic benefits of homeownership

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: should be available to everyone as

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: such the California dream for all

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: program should be available to all

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: wrote assembly member member Joaquin

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Rambola, Democrat from Fresno, who's

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the lead author of assembly bill 1840.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Rambola said, quote, when

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: undocumented individuals are excluded

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: from such programs, they miss out on

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a crucial method of securing financial

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: security and personal stability for

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: themselves and their families.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: State Senator Brian Dolly, friend of

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the show called AB 1840 quote an

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: insult to California citizens who are

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: being left behind and priced out of

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: home ownership, adding I'm all for

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: helping first time home buyers, but

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: give priority to those who are here

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: in our state legally.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Supervisor Jim Desmond, another

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: friend of the show quote, our state

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: is already facing a housing crisis,

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: adding more strain through AB 1840

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is not the approach. Desmond warned

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: quote, California cannot afford to

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: continue rewarding illegal

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: immigration while neglecting its

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: fiscal responsibilities to its citizen.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This bill will worsen the

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: state's deficit and increase the

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: tax burden on hardworking Californians.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So any thoughts right off

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the bat about this bill?

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So I have questions, but I'm going to

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_06]: reserve my questions because maybe

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_06]: you'll answer them as we go.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Or maybe I'll come up with

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: more questions.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. Okay. There was a video.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if I could pull this up.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We love our videos.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_06]: When they work.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: When they work, talk amongst yourselves.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, hold on.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So talk about Elena Kunalakis.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that how you pronounce her name?

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. This is from CBS eight San Diego.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So this was local news and

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: this came out just recently.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: A proposed bill working its

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: way through Sacramento could make

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: it easier for undocumented immigrants

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to purchase a home in California.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's called AB 1840.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: AB 1840 adds specific

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: warning to the California

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: dream for all program, which is

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: the state's down payment

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: assistance program.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The warning would make

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: undocumented immigrants able

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: to apply for this money.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I spoke with the author of

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: the bill and the

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: politician against it.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_07]: We said it was a dream for

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_07]: all that that's what we meant.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Assemblyman Dr.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Joaquina Rambula from Fresno

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: is the author of AB 1840.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: The bill says that applicants

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: of the state's dream for all

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: program should not be disqualified

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: based on their immigration status.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: The dream for all program

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: is a down payment assistance program

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: for low to moderate income

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: aspiring homeowners.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Those selected get a 20%

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: down payment on a home

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: that has to be paid back plus

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: interest if the homeowner sells it.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_07]: For many people who have been here

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_07]: for years, if not decades,

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_07]: because we have a broken

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_07]: immigration system who have

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_07]: been paying taxes and doing

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_07]: their hard work as well of building

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_07]: up a credit score that we need to

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_07]: figure out how to open doors for all

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_07]: people to realize that dream of homeownership.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_07]: We shouldn't move people to

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_07]: the front of the line.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_07]: They haven't paid their dues.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: El Cajon Mayor Bill Wells,

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: who's also running for Congress,

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_04]: says he disagrees with AB 1840.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He says the money for

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: the California Dream for All Act

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: should only go to legal U.S.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_04]: citizens and veterans assistance programs.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_08]: They should be first in line

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_08]: to buy homes and to get assistance.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Not people that work for this country,

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and you know, in fact,

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_08]: some that come from countries that

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_08]: that are young men and women

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_08]: were actually fighting against.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Assemblyman Arambula says the money

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_04]: in the Dream for All program

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_04]: should be available to everyone

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_04]: who qualifies, which means they have

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_04]: to have a Social Security

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: number or an I-10 number.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He says there are already programs

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_04]: for veterans and more in the work.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_07]: We're passing housing bonds

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_07]: that ultimately will allow us

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_07]: to bring resources specifically

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_07]: for our veterans and look forward

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_07]: to the opportunity to make sure

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_07]: that we're able to walk

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_07]: and chew gum at the same time.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't understand why

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_08]: we're letting people that have lived

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_08]: here all their lives and sometimes

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_08]: for generations,

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_08]: twist in the wind and not be able

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: to afford their own home.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So if passed and signed by the governor,

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: AB 1840 could go into effect

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: in January of 2025.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting, he said the point about,

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: well, you need a Social Security

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: number and you need an I-T number.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Both those numbers require

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: you to apply and they require you

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: to file proof of certain things

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that require you to follow laws

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of getting

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: a Social Security number.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not an easy process

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: to get a Social Security number.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to go through

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the whole immigration process.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds like he's backtracking

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: or he's trying to cover his tracks

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: in the sense of, well,

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you have to have a Social Security number

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and you have to have an I-T number.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, OK, so it's not truly

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: for undocumented, but he's trying

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: to also say it's for undocumented,

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: which doesn't make sense

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: because you can't be undocumented

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and also possess those numbers.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_06]: That was one of my questions.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Because, yes, that doesn't make

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_06]: sense to me.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't understand the process.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was looking up.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like what qualifies you

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_06]: as undocumented?

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But then as I'm reading all this,

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, but then you're documented

[00:22:40] like.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I right.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're you're in

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Alpine, the author of this,

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pretty sure he said

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Pacific Lee and not specifically

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_06]: and not annoyed me.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, nobody said that a lot

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: of these Sacramento

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: politicians were very smart.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They just happen to get elected.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that stuck out at me

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: as if they are trying to

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: assuage people of, you know,

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: now that people have figured it out.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Look, if you read that bluntly,

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: if you look at it

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and let's go back to it

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and I want to read it one more time.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It says you shall not be disqualified

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: solely based on the applicant's

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: immigration status.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Plain reading and I'm going to put

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: my little lawyer hat on right now.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Plain reading.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: If I was reading that

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and I had to argue that in court means.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't be disqualified

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: based on your immigration status,

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: whether that's legal, illegal,

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: whether you're green card H1B,

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, like or your work visa,

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: student visa, all that stuff.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So basically any immigration

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: status would fall under this,

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: which would include

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: undocumented or illegal.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a back away

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and say, oh, now you need an IT number

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: or you need social security number.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Then you're not completely undocumented.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There is documentation of you somewhere.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to get that number somehow.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The immigration department

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't just hand those out.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry for being dumb.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_06]: If you get a green card,

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_06]: do you have a social security number?

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you get a tax ID number.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, it's technically

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_06]: an easy sure that undocumented

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_06]: immigrant could be an expired

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_06]: green card or visa holder.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So if they maybe did have some documents,

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_06]: but then it expired, at least that was from.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I said, I was like looking this up

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_06]: because I was trying to figure out

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_06]: when I was reading this whole thing

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_06]: and walked the you know,

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I watched that video

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_06]: because you would send it to me.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, wait, documents.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, and I got all confused.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So I did start looking up

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_06]: what qualifies someone as being

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_06]: an undocumented immigrant

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_06]: and expiration status does count.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm wondering if that's.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I think it just means

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: any sort of any status,

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: whether you're expired,

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: whether your green cards expire,

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: whether your visa is expired,

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: whether you're legally or illegally.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The plain reading is that it applies

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: to literally anybody,

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: regardless of immigration status,

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: which would open it up to OK,

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: if you qualify.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you meet those other qualifications

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: of your first generation home buyer,

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: you meet this income level and everything,

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: then you would qualify.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's, you know, yes.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to be overwhelmed

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: with people who are applying

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: who are legal?

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that this has been added

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to a law,

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think is concerning to a lot of people.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why it's getting

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: national news is because

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: people are sitting here going,

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: what is California doing

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: that they're handing out home loans

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: to people who could be illegal immigrants?

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's where

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the frustration is coming in.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, right.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, obviously, because like we talked about,

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_06]: like we have our veterans and stuff

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_06]: and we do have so many homeless veterans

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_06]: and why are we helping

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_06]: those people before we help our own?

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But I have questions on the status here of

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_06]: how long do these people

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: have to have been in California?

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what kind of established residency

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: do they have to have?

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Because now does this mean

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_06]: that we're going to have an influx

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_06]: of illegal undocumented immigrants

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_06]: coming from other states

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_06]: who are like, oh, I can finally own a home.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go to California and apply or

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_06]: which will get to that.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like if they have to be here

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_06]: for a year or whatever,

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll get to, you know, that part

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_06]: down the road because of things,

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_06]: things that have progressed today.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, I genuinely wonder,

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_06]: like, can now can they just start

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_06]: coming in to New York or whatever?

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And then they come to California

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_06]: because they're like, well,

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I can finally own a home.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But how long do they have to have been here

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_06]: or working here or I have questions about that?

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we are kind of going back

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and forth about this before the show.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is probably the biggest concern

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: for a lot of people.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking at the macro side of it is

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: it's the it's the idea that it's a beacon

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to those who do want to come illegally.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you come to California,

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you're going to get preferential or

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: or equal treatment as those who are citizens.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not necessarily preferential

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: because we're going to look at

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: another article in a second

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: that shows it's not preferential treatment.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that you're

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be treated as a citizen,

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: meaning you don't have to go

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: through the rigmarole

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: of actually becoming a citizen.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You can show up and regardless

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: of immigration status.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the bigger concern

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: is it sends out this message of like,

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: well, if you show up in California,

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a lot of programs

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: that can help you.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of politicians

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: who are very sympathetic towards you.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you go to California

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's a sanctuary state

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and they won't work with federal government,

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: they won't report you.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that does send out

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a big kind of beacon

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: to everyone around the world

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: that just come to California

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and you'll get all access

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: to all these programs,

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: which is probably the most concerning.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Food assistance, housing assistance,

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_06]: medical free abortions.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Your kids can all be in school.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_06]: You get if you're pregnant,

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_06]: you get free maternity care,

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_06]: including postpartum care.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_06]: So now free money

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_06]: on a down payment on home, kind of.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a possibility.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a possibility.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: How many people who are out there

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: looking for a home,

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: myself included,

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: would take $150,000

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: if you got to pay it back

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: when you sold the home later

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in California?

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably a lot because

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: the way housing prices

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: go up in California,

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you're like, I mean,

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll still make money on my house.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking that

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_06]: it was like the down payment

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_06]: we put on our current house

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_06]: and what it's worth.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_06]: it's still walk away

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_06]: with a lot of money.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to like

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't say that.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, you guys.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't say that like,

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, me and my house.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It just means we

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_06]: we've owned the house

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_06]: for several years now.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_06]: We bought low low

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_06]: interest rate and all that.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just thinking

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah, that unfortunately

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_06]: that 150 sadly

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_06]: because California is

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: that's that's why so many people

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: are looking for homes.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: California is out of control.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, housing prices right now.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, we would

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_06]: we would walk away still with

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_06]: a sizable

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_06]: amount of equity.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And so which actually leads me

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_06]: to my other question.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Or more of a statement.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is taxpayer funded,

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_06]: of course, the government

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_06]: doesn't have its own money.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything is taxpayer funded.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think there's interest.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_06]: They have to pay it back

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_06]: with interest.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So the government

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_06]: is going to earn the interest

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_06]: on your tax dollars once again.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like student loans.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they make money on student

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: loans which are funded

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: with taxpayer money.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's one

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: of the biggest crimes

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: is that the government

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: makes money on money.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They loan to people for education.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's a whole another episode.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean,

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: governments got to get there.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if anybody

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: who's watched

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: one of my favorite movies

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Godfather Part Two,

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a good scene

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: where the black hand

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: gets in the car

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: with Robert De Niro

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and he says something about like,

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: oh, you know, I just give me

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit every week

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: so I can wet my beak.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's always

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what makes me

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: think about the government

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: is like they're always

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to figure out

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: just a little bit

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to wet my beak.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like,

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, the same, you know,

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: organized crime in the government.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Potato potato.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: PolitiFact knowing

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that this was

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: getting more exposure

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and getting, you know,

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: getting the rounds

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: on national news

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and getting more eyeballs

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: decided they were going to step in

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were going to

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: add their fact check

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: because that's what PolitiFact does

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: is they like to add

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: their little fact checks.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So they wanted to do

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: they want to miss this was March 5th, 2024.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually an old fact check.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It says only immigrants

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: in the country illegally

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: are eligible for an interest

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: free California

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: housing loan program.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They have rated that false.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the claim

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: because this was from a March 5th, 2024 video.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who actually posted that video.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact check is this

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: California's Dream for All program,

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: which has been in place for one year

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: talking about the down payment.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The proposed legislation

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: would not give the loans

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: exclusively to immigrants

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: in the country illegally.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Californians who meet

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: certain income limits

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: are also eligible for the program.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Assembly Bill 1840,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: introduced in January,

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: would codify into law

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: that an applicant under the program

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: shall not be disqualified.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So only based on the applicant's

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: immigration status.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: PolitiFact by trying to fact check

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: that statement,

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: admitted that yes, indeedy

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that it will be for those

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: who are here illegally.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So they fact check themselves

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that it is here.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It is for people here illegally.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's what they wanted to do,

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but just in case you're wondering,

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that was PolitiFact.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: There was something else.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_01]: One more thing.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What time are we at?

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: 6.35.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, we had some other things

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that we want to run over,

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: so I want to make sure

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: we get to those as well.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So now that we've gone over

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the entire program

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and everything that's kind of,

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, everything that entails,

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: here is the big reveal

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that we've been teasing

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: regarding what's going on

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: with this bill.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And just to show you,

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_01]: since the theme has been

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: cringy politicians

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: who don't know what they're doing,

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: this was literally shared

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: not that long ago,

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: 1.52 p.m. today

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: by Ashley Zavala,

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: great reporter.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Update after the California

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Senate advanced bill

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: allowing undocumented immigrants

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: to apply for states

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: first time home buyers program.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The California Department

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: of Finance confirms

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the program has no money to give.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Lawmakers did not appropriate

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: any funds for it this year.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So after all that hubble,

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Baloo,

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: draw the hubble,

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Baloo.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day,

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: politicians just forgot

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to put money in that fund anyway,

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: so nobody is getting money.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So moral of the story is

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: now nobody gets it, you know,

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: not illegal immigrants,

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: not citizens, nobody,

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_01]: nobody's getting it.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So they just forgot

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to put money in the whole fund.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how popular

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and important this program is.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, that was breaking news

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: as of today.

[00:34:07] Thoughts?

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Just I mean,

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_06]: as we were talking about

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_06]: before we hopped on

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and as we often say,

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_06]: they don't think about they just

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_06]: they come up with an idea

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and never think about

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_06]: how is this going to be tomorrow,

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_06]: next week, next year,

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_06]: 10 years, 20 years.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_06]: They don't think about these things.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_06]: They literally there are so many,

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_06]: so many bills that are passed

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and authored where they just don't stop

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_06]: to think about how is this

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_06]: actually going to play out

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_06]: in the real world?

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, in this instance, it turns out

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_06]: they, you know,

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_06]: started this program last year.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_06]: They want to add on to the program.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_06]: But oops, we forgot to budget

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_06]: for the program.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know,

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_06]: we're in a deficit,

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_06]: so it's not like they're

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_06]: they're like, oh, well,

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_06]: you know, we'll just skirt

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_06]: a billion dollars over here.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's just sorry, everyone,

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_06]: for getting your hopes up.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Virtue signaling.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, it accomplished the goal

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: of virtue signaling that they care

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: about the undocumented.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of day,

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: no one gets any money.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So after all that

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and everyone's all freaked out

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_01]: that this is going to happen.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's not to say

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that it won't happen in the future.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So if this law does eventually

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_01]: go through the legislature

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and it does get signed,

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it will go into effect January,

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_01]: which means that when the program

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: does have money again,

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: that.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: This could go into effect,

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: but as of like right now,

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: that, you know,

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not happening this year,

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: is not probably having next year

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: their expected shortfalls

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: for next year.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So California is going to be

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: reeling for a little bit financially.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think next year

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: is going to look any better

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: because they're making up

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_01]: so much from this year.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And this might be one

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: of those programs

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: that just kind of goes

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: by the wayside because it sounds great

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and it sounds great

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: when you have a hundred

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: billion dollars surplus

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and you can put, you know,

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: five hundred million dollars

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: towards it or three hundred million.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But when you're strapped for cash

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and you have an enormous budget

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: deficit and you're upside

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_01]: down on your budget.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Things like this don't make the cut.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it becomes the essentials

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and becomes the first responders

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: in schools and stuff like that,

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: not handing out big checks

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: for people to buy a home.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Moral of the story for this year.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I know everyone's getting

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: all upset about it

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: for this year.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing's happening, but I

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying don't get upset

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: about this law like I think

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: we've already covered the idea

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: of like this law is a virtue signal

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: more than anything,

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a signal to people

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: who want to come here

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that if you come to California,

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: we're going to take care of you

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: regardless of immigration status.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Get upset about that.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's something

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can rightfully

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: get upset about is that California

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: is including people

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: who have questionable

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: immigration status alongside citizens

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: who are taxpaying citizens.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know there's a whole argument

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: that people someone's going to comment.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, illegal immigrants,

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: they do contribute at the tax base.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, OK, we know.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, every citizen

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_01]: still has to pay taxes regardless.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: There was another sent.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, did you?

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Minutes ago when I was alluding to,

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_06]: well, how long do you have to be

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_06]: a California resident and stuff?

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_06]: This is what I was alluding to

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_06]: is that there's no money

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_06]: in the program right now

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_06]: and probably not next year.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But if this program is

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_06]: if this bill actually goes through

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_06]: our our people in other states,

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_06]: illegal immigrants

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_06]: going to start thinking, OK, well,

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I can go establish

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_06]: residency in California now.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And then when they are able

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_06]: to financially open up

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_06]: the program again, I can apply.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And so.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not I don't want to be like,

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_06]: we don't want you.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's not

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_06]: something I'm applying here.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_06]: But we have house

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_06]: like we have housing crisis,

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_06]: we have out of control prices

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_06]: and we have homeless people

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_06]: all over our streets

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_06]: up and down the state right now.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's just so it's

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_06]: California's madness.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we keep trying to be like,

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, come here, come here, come here.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Eventually, we've already run out of money

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_06]: and eventually we're not going to have

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_06]: space. It's just crazy.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is again,

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_06]: just not thinking forward now.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: it sounds great

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in a political snippet

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're running for office

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_01]: or eventually when Gavin

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Newsom runs for president,

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: it sounds great to say

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I did this program

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and we were the first

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: in the nation to do this.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can, you know,

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: virtue signal and pander for votes.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's one of those

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that California does this a lot

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: where they'll pass these feel good bills

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and it looks great on paper

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and it everyone gets to cheer

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and say it's a wonderful thing.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But when they get down

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to like the brass tacks

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and you look under the hood,

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: it's it's really ugly underneath

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and it doesn't make any sense.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think we'll just get an apology

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and maybe a statue of a house?

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe they'll get a little

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: like figurine like a Monopoly house

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: mail to them.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were talking about that

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of the budget deficit

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and like reparation bills.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they a lot of them got axed.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Any of them that had any sort

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: of financial implication,

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: they all got axed.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But the one that made it through

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: was that we're going

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: to do a public apology

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think they're

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: going to build a statue.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So yay for reparations.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: In a move by Democrats

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: who are moving more towards

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: the middle in California

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Senator Janet Nguyen,

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: you sent this to me.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: She said I spoke out today

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: on the Senate floor

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: against AB 1840 assistance

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: for first time home buyers.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Veterans are beneficiaries

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: of this program and it

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: will be rating their fund.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I will always look out

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: for our veterans and military.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_06]: She is not a Democrat.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not a Democrat. Sorry.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a Republican.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes more sense.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Apologies to Senator Januin.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, she's she came out

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: on the floor and talked out

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: against it.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But there is a follow up story

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that doesn't really have to do

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: with this home.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of ties into this

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: whole home buyer thing

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and what's going on with

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the undocumented citizens here.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: This story came out recently.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This is actually yesterday.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: The story came out on Politico.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Gavin Newsom to weigh

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_01]: first in nation policy

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: on hiring undocumented

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_01]: college students.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: California lawmakers passed

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_01]: first in the nation

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: legislation on Monday

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that would require public

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: universities to hire

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_01]: undocumented students

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: who lack work permits,

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: sending Governor Gavin Newsom

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a politically dicey proposal

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: during an election year.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: David Alvarez,

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: a San Diego area Democrat,

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: introduced assembly bill 2586

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in February in response

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to the University of California's

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_01]: decision to reject

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: a similar proposal.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The UC cited legal

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: risk to the system and students,

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: but was also privately pressured

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: by the Biden administration

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: not to move forward with the idea

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: during his reelection campaign

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in which border security

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_01]: was a major vulnerability.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So all those out there,

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: just remember your political pawns.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And when it's an election year,

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: they don't give a crap about you

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_01]: or they do give a crap about you.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But if it hurts their chances

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: of getting reelected,

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: then they don't give a crap about you.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Just to show that

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: the Biden administration

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: really cares about the undocumented

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: citizens here in America.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The legislation would apply

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: to the nation's largest

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: four year university system,

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: the 23 campus California

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: State University,

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: as well as the largest

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: higher education system in the country.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The California community colleges,

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they still debate about

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_01]: whether it would apply to the UC,

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: which has constitutional

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_01]: autonomy from the legislature.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So I learned that.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: California officials have this year

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: continued to press

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: for undocumented people

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to have greater access

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: to government programs and services,

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: including to state supported home loans,

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: even as some national Democrat

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: some some national Democrats

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: have shifted rightward on immigration.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The UC hasn't formally

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: formally oppose the idea,

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: but has in legislative hearings

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and advocacy letters

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: argue that the law could make

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: both students and university employers

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: criminally liable for participating

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: in an illegal employment arrangement

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: campaign led by student

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: activists and law professors at the UC

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and elsewhere counters

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: that federal law banning

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the hiring of undocumented people

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't apply to state government

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: government employees

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: such as universities.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And Newsom has until the end

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: of September to act on the bill.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he signs it?

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I have no idea.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a tough one.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's still

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_06]: what is that like 35 days away?

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a lot of days in the political world.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot can happen

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_06]: between now and then.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Depending on how the wind's blowing

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: September, you know,

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a presidential year.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Border issue is a huge,

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: huge issue that a lot of voters

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: are voting on.

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the top three issues

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: immigration essay economy

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: is another one.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: does Gavin Newsom

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: put his neck out there

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and sign something that will

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: most likely get national news

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and just paint Democrats

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_01]: in a bad light

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to border security?

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Considering that the Biden

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: administration already pushed back on it,

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: saying don't sign this,

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: especially in an election year.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they didn't have in their nominees,

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_06]: so maybe he's going to retaliate

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_06]: and sign it.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't read that,

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: get a chance to read

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: the article you sent me.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is really

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: this is odd how

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: how Gavin Newsom has really been

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of cast aside.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I know we're getting off topic,

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's been weird

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: how Gavin Newsom really got cast aside

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: after Biden dropped out.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It's is it like Kamala's

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: taking revenge on Gavin Newsom

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: for being a good surrogate

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: for Joe Biden?

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't get it

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_01]: because that's what I want.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're supposed

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: to be doing, right?

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they were all propping

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Biden up until the debate

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and, you know, until the morning of

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: literally the Sunday morning

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: talk shows of when he dropped out

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: by an ex post.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was saying

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: he's our nominee.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get, you know,

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: just accept it.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Get in line.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be our nominee.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: he drops out.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_06]: So that all said he was the hero

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_06]: for stepping aside

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_06]: for the good of the nation.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of a sudden he's

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_01]: he's a patriot and a hero

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: for stepping aside and let me

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I know it's great.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_06]: This is totally off topic,

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_06]: but patriot American flags.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And what was the other

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_06]: word that are often

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_06]: when you when someone

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_06]: like describes himself

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_06]: as a patriot or flies

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_06]: the American flag,

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_06]: they're like, oh yeah,

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_06]: they're Republican.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_06]: But suddenly, oh, and freedom.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Suddenly those things

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_06]: were being, you know, chanted

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_06]: and tons of American flags

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and stuff at the DNC

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and there, you know,

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_06]: we're patriots.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_06]: We're for freedom.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_06]: The American flag.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, wait, what?

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_06]: What is this,

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_06]: the DNC or the RNC?

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so confused.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I have it.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Axios said it,

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_06]: but I haven't confirmed.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess Kamala is saying that they

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_06]: she wants to build a border

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_06]: wall now or something.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't get that.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, off topic.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And I wasn't able to like

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_06]: actually confirm that this is.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Her stance,

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just that she wants to spend

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_01]: hundreds of millions of dollars

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: fixing parts of the wall.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So acknowledging that walls

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: do indeed work well,

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: they saw how well walls

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: worked at the DNC

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: when they kept a lot of people

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: out without ID.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's funny

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: how all of a sudden at the DNC

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: when all the national eyes

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: are on the DNC,

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: all of a sudden they're all rara.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Wave your flag.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: No protesters, anything like that.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All the protesters were outside

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: outside the fence.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're all of a sudden

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: very patriotic and they love America.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's why I have no idea

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_06]: what Gavin's going to do.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Not that I would know anyway, but

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_06]: what to predict anymore

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_06]: because every day things change

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_06]: and I'm like, what?

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_06]: What's happening?

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I yeah, it's it's.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're really off

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the topic of the AB 18 for you.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's basically all

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: we had to say about it.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We're now just chatting

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: about the presidential election.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean,

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_01]: so much crazy stuff has happened

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: even in the last week

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_01]: you had the DNC

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and then all of a sudden

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: to take the wind out

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of Kamala's sails.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even watch her speech.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: To be honest,

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to sit through it.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to enjoy

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: my Thursday night rather than

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: sit through listening to her.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_01]: the next day it's like

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: RFK comes out and

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that totally takes

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: the wind out of Kamala's sails

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and like just kills

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the momentum from the DNC.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It was interesting.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was telling

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I told you

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: how I was watching CNN at work

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_01]: just because it's.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the least triggering,

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not because I watch CNN

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: just because people

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: think it's the least triggering.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to watch

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Fox News at work

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_01]: because then people will go by

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're like, oh, yeah,

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: this guy watches Fox News.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what that means?

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I like I use it

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_06]: work instead of work.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kidding.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kidding.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I have it on in the background.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, I had put it on.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I had put it on.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I was watching it

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: because I didn't want to

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: listen to it on the computer

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was watching it on TV.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then as soon as he went

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: into the whole thing

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: about how the DNC is rigged

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: in the media and censorship

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that stuff,

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: all of a sudden CNN goes, OK, well,

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: that's RFK giving his

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: his speech that he's dropping out

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: of there, suspending his campaign.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to go to break right now

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and we'll see you on the other side.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But then you flip over Fox News

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were still brought

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: they broadcast the entire thing.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the huge obviously,

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, unveiling having him

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: at the rally later on,

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: which made it look like a,

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, a rock star,

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: like an 80s rock star coming out.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it has a big effect.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I I thought about it more later on

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and I thought to myself,

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, actually,

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: this is really quite a brilliant

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_01]: move that he did.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, is the way he said, OK,

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pull my name

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: from all the battleground states

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and throw my support behind Trump.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Great, because these states

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: are two, three points

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and that makes a big difference

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: if RFK is throwing the support

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: behind Trump and a lot of those states.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But by staying on the ballot

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: in blue states or like decisively

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: red or blue states like California.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it gives people the ability

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to vote a protest vote

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: against the Democratic establishment,

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: which I think is really kind of cool

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're a Democrat out there

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and you hate what's happening

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're like I I was an RFK supporter.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he should have been the nominee.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate what the Democrats are doing.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You could vote a lot for.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: People could vote a lot for RFK

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and really send a message

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: to the Democratic establishment,

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: not that they're going to change,

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but it'd be a protest vote.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was actually

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty brilliant on his part

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: to keep his name on those

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_01]: in those states

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: just to kind of send a message.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And then speaking of how he just stole

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_06]: the media, basically, like every,

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_06]: you know, Kamala,

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_06]: she had her speech Thursday night

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and then all of a sudden Friday,

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: everything was RFK.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So he's not on the ticket.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's it's Trump advance.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But I have noticed amongst

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_06]: like Democrat influencers,

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_06]: legislators, politicians

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and my Democrat friends.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Their whole fight online

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_06]: is against RFK right now.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not even against Trump.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like technically

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_06]: RFK is not on the Trump ticket.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's just it's kind of funny

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_06]: how like it's less attacks on Trump.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I feel like

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_06]: they're like spending their time,

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_06]: like I even notice

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_06]: like Scott Weiner

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_06]: keeps going after RFK

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's like he's kind of on the ticket,

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_06]: but not really like.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think everybody knows that

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's thrown his support behind Trump

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and he will likely

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: be in the administration

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: if Trump is elected.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're kind of voting for

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: RFK to be in the White House

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: one way or the other.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure like Tulsi Gabbard came out.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: She's also going to be in it.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody just commented,

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: just discovered your channel.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting channel.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Fiercely independent.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I am a no party preference voter

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: looking at alternative

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: California political media.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that would be us.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to do a show

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: breaking down the ballot

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: propositions for November 2024?

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we actually did one.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't we do one last week?

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, really did last week.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we're going to 32 and two.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: we're going to break down all of them.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get through all of them

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: little by little

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: before the November election.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So you are well informed about

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: what is going on with every proposition.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Any other thoughts on AB 1840

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: or anything like that

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: before we sign off for the night?

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so yeah, basically

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: here's the the long and short of it.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of summarize.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Does it allow for home

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: loans to illegal immigrants?

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there money for it?

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So will anybody be getting that money

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: this year or next year?

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean that they can't in the future.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean that you

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: shouldn't be paying attention

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and you should be looking out

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_01]: for stuff like this, along with

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: like the other bills that are passing.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, keep an eye on this.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And like I always say, if you

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: if you I think it's like 50 calls

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and then a legislator pays attention,

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: which is not really that many calls,

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: to be completely honest.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: If there is a bill that bugs you.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Organize 50 people to call the legislator,

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: your local legislator's office,

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and tell them like we don't support this.

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They might change their tune

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and people in Sacramento,

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: they cave to political pressure pretty quickly.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't like this bill,

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: call up your local legislator right now.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Let him know that you

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: don't support AB 1840 anyway.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we will be back next week.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Continuing along with election coverage,

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: presidential election coverage,

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: what's going on in California?

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Propositions or your propositions coming up.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We should probably be doing

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: a legislative roundup coming up,

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: because I think next week is the final week

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to get all the bills

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: going to Gavin Newsom.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Do they have to the end of

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_06]: September to sign them, though?

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they have to get them in

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and then he has like

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: a certain turnaround time to sign them.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is coming up.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Next week is the final week

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: for all those crazy bills.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a good idea to a legislative

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: roundup episode next week,

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: just kind of throwing that out there.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little teaser for next week.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe there's like 990 right now.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to go through 990,

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: but we will go through the highlights.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We will do our best

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to go through the highlights.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_06]: We're not going to go through 90.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we might not even get through 10.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway,

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: so stay tuned throughout

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[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: we will see you on the next one.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Have a good night, everybody.

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