Ep. 266: Trump Assassination Attempt

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[00:00:28] into another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I'm your host Phil. As always with me my trusty cohost, the best and fastest researcher in the West and a good friend of the show is joining us tonight. Zach, welcome back. Zach, good to see you again.

[00:00:42] Thank you for being here. Always good to have you. Thank you. We know you're very opinionated so we figured we'd get you on tonight's episode because I think there's a lot to talk about. I mean,

[00:00:55] we should just jump right into it. There is a new ordinance in Newport Beach about garbage cans and when they should come in whether it's six or eight PM. Like for real? I mean, there's nothing else going in politics right now. Is there anything else news wise?

[00:01:09] Okay, I feel like we're gonna brought my son in for this episode and he's like an expert on these things. All garbage cans being brought in. I guess that's a big deal. All laws with garbage. No, obviously we're gonna be talking about what's been happening this weekend, the

[00:01:26] assassination attempt on Trump, what's going on at the RNC, JD Vance, rumors that Biden is stepping down literally happening while we're like streaming live. Like we're just I'm like updating Twitter all the time. But before we get started, Zach, how you been?

[00:01:45] Good. Yeah, it's it's been, you know, I every election cycle, especially presidential ones, I always prep myself mentally for like the October surprise, right? What's going to happen that defines the rest of our election talk?

[00:02:02] And to be honest, I did not think something this intense and high level would happen so early in the year. So I think that's caught me off guard when I normally start thinking about things. And so it's it throws a huge curveball into really

[00:02:21] how to process this election for myself. So a year ago, you didn't have attempted assassination and Biden possibly withdrawing on your bingo card. I can't say I mean, the Biden part there was concerns. But that's always been in the back of everyone's mind. That's to be clear.

[00:02:40] But this is for both of these headlines to be within the same week, I think is extraordinary for this country. And I don't I don't I think a lot of us are still memeing about it and laughing about it and kind of trying to make sense of it.

[00:02:55] But it's the gravity of where we're headed right now and where we're at as a country is like actually historical, not no under under statement on that. Well, let's just jump right into that. Like the first topic, obviously the topic of today's name show

[00:03:13] is the assassination attempt, which I did not ever think in my lifetime, I would ever see an assassination attempt on a president, a former president, a presidential candidate. It was actually Camille who texted me and alerted me that something was even going on.

[00:03:30] And first place I checked was X. I didn't actually go to the news. I actually checked out and I was like, wow, actually there's video. This is happening. I put on Fox and I was sitting there in the living room

[00:03:42] and I don't know how you guys reacted to it. But when I was sitting there, I was watching it and it took a while for me to process that it actually happened. Say like it was one of those things where you're watching it and you see him duck,

[00:03:56] you see him get up with the blood on his face and you're like, wow. And then it like the more we watched him, then it started to sink in like, oh my gosh, like he he was a millimeter away from being assassinated.

[00:04:11] So it took me a while to kind of process it. How about you guys? Yeah, well, same, same, like even when I texted it to you, I'm like, is this true? And I had checked like before I texted you, I don't like to like,

[00:04:23] you know, get us all excited about things. And I think I even texted you possibly or I don't remember, but it was like question mark or something like that because I'm sitting there and ask first place I went,

[00:04:33] you know, well, I brought it on X and I'm scrolling X like to try to confirm this is true. And it was like, I'm like texting and I'm like, but did it happen? And I'm like watching the video is just like, is this real? Is this a joke?

[00:04:45] Was it just like firecrackers? You know, like I didn't know it's not what they're called the little, the little mini ones, you know, like or like the poppers like someone's just being a dumbass, you know, it's far my mouth.

[00:05:01] Like that's what literally when I was like sitting there just like, is this is this real? Is this happening? Is this but it's going on? Yeah, same. Yeah. Something along the same lines is when I saw,

[00:05:13] you know, I thought of the Reagan situation where he says, you know, oh, you missed. I thought it was like something exterior like a like you said, I thought it was balloons or some kind of thing.

[00:05:25] And then when you see him get up and there's blood splattered on his face like that and his ear is all red. I mean, I think that that really was a level of cognitive dissonance. Yeah, it was it's surreal to see it happen as it did.

[00:05:42] And obviously the people started thinking about like, well, what happened here? How could this even possibly happen? Like how did this guy even get this close to even do this? Like and I always thought, well, we had the assassination of JFK.

[00:05:59] We had the assassination of, you know, Bobby Cain Jr. or Bobby Cain, not Bobby Cain Jr. is running right now. And then we had the assassination attempt on Reagan. You started that. Well, at this point, Secret Service probably knows how to prevent assassinations.

[00:06:17] So I guess to me it seemed like an implausible idea that like we've been through this before. How are you not prepared for the possibility of someone trying to assassinate a presidential candidate or a president?

[00:06:30] And I willing to believe that there have been other would be assassination attempts, but the Secret Service actually got bored of it and was able to prevent it and kept it quiet.

[00:06:41] Because, you know, like they used to not want to be like sparking fear in society and events and everything. And so they would like, you know, we've had attempted terrorist attacks or they've been able to forward terrorist attacks and whatnot.

[00:06:56] So it wouldn't have surprised me if there have been prior would be attempts. And so they were able to stop. So yes, it is like, like I kind of joked about the bingo card wasn't on my bingo card for my life.

[00:07:11] No. And I think I think the more in a lot of videos are still coming out. I mean, I think what is still, I mean, that's not even been a week. And I think a lot of people are still uploading their videos, their angles, their perspectives.

[00:07:25] And I think, you know, and I made an ex host about this. I think for the first time in a while, and there may be different reasons or different conclusions. But I think for the first time in a while, Republicans, Democrats,

[00:07:41] independents, no party, a lot of people are questioning this event, whether it's the security measures, whether it's the reactions, whether it's the people in the crowds. There's there's a lot of collective questioning of how could this have happened?

[00:07:56] Like, like Phil said, how could we have allowed such negligence on some very clear parameters that were just left kind of to be. And I really think more questions need to come from this. It shouldn't be just, oh, well, he's alive. It's fine. He's good. It's all right.

[00:08:15] Let's just move on. Like, no, this was an immense failure in our government and services it provides. And we should all be concerned on how this gets resolved or what the conclusion is. Yeah, I feel like it's with Secret Service, as with like, as you mentioned,

[00:08:32] other federal agencies or any federal law enforcement, we hear of like the almost like mere calamity. A lot of times we're like, Oh, this person got this close, but you know, federal agents stopped him. And then we're like, Oh, okay, well they got.

[00:08:47] And then we kind of think, Well, how did they even get that close? To think that someone got that close, got up on the roof, pulled out a firearm and shot at a former president slash presidential candidate. You go, that's not just a little oopsie like, Oh, we

[00:09:02] caught it before it got bad. That's like, wow, we missed everything we were supposed to do. How did this happen? And that's the question I think a lot of people are going to want answered

[00:09:14] over the next coming months is like, how did he even get this bad? How did this guy who is not obviously a professional hit man, he's just like young kid, scramble up on a roof and take shots at the former president. And the longer

[00:09:32] the Secret Service, the head of the Secret Service right now, she kind of clams up and doesn't say anything. It makes it look a lot worse rather than just being like, you know what? We screwed up. It was our bad. Like we are going to add like additional

[00:09:46] security that the longer you don't say anything, the worse it's going to get. Yeah. Like you put on X that day about the silence from President Biden. And it was like hours before he even said anything. Right. And he should have been making it, you know, an immediate

[00:10:08] statement. Right. And there were I'm even good old noodles put out a thing a tweet right away and said like, we never condone political violence. Every prominent Democrat you knew put out a tweet

[00:10:21] that said like, we do not condone political violence. We settle our differences at the ballot box. And then it was just hour after hour and wasn't till like two and a half three hours later that

[00:10:32] Joe Biden ramble or, you know, shuffled out from behind a screen, went to his little podium, mumbled something about he's getting information and then he shuffled back off and you go, Oh, cool. Thanks, bro. Thanks for the update on like what just happened. You don't seem that

[00:10:47] rattled about it. Like someone else died there. Yeah. It wasn't just it was someone died. Recognize that like someone actually lost their life because of this and then I mean a

[00:11:04] young 20 year old kid also lost their life, which I get that he was the evil one in this situation but 20 is so young and I'm just like, as a mom I'm like what happened to him to make him

[00:11:14] get to that point and that makes me sad. You know, it's a very sad situation. I don't it's a miracle. It's great. It's wonderful that Trump was okay and it was just this year but two people died

[00:11:26] that day and one was very young and again like what happened to him to even put him to that point. Someone else was an innocent bystander and then and then Biden just basically did

[00:11:38] his best to not say make America great again. Make America something something like he like stuttered over that. Yeah, it was almost like there was no there was no urgency or anger in his

[00:11:52] like no emotion at all. Like you should think like if this is happening in America where they're taking shots at a presidential I mean this is stuff that like happens in like Latin America Mexico or something like that where they're sort of assassinating political candidates because they

[00:12:07] don't like them to have no emotion at all to be like I'm talking to federal agencies. I'll get back to you and I know okay bye. It's like good to know you're handling the situation

[00:12:22] which doesn't help his overall like credibility of being able to handle any situation. We'll talk about that later but it's not capable to have emotion about it though. Like I'm not even looking

[00:12:32] at this as like Biden is evil and probably wanted Trump dead. I wouldn't accuse him of that because that's not fair of me to say but I don't think he had the mental capacity to be like wait this is a

[00:12:44] sad situation. I need to say something about this emotional situation. I need to show emotion about this and that shows where Biden is at mentally in my opinion. Yeah and it's not

[00:12:53] to and it's not and you're not even like poking fun at Biden. I mean I watched my grandmother pass away from dementia after eight years of battling it and I watched how it onset and I

[00:13:06] watched how certain things of her character began to fall off like emotional that emotional IQ and as a president you want your president to have some level of emotional IQ. Yeah. If they're getting shot at. Yeah the other thing that I think in God forbid we don't

[00:13:27] it's tough to think about this how close we were to a completely different timeline in this country. I mean we're a millimeter away from thankfully here we have the RNC going on this week. It's

[00:13:42] a triumphant return for Donald Trump. There's a lot of energy of thankfulness of excitement in the RNC right now because he survived and he came back from this but if it went the other

[00:13:54] way and they had the RNC this week I can't even imagine what America would be like right now if that were the case. What do you guys think? Do you think there'd be riots? It might be the one time

[00:14:05] I think conservatives actually do start rioting and I think that would be the final straw for a lot of I mean think about there's tens of millions of people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020. What was the final count like 80 or 70 plus million? Yeah 74 or 5 something like that.

[00:14:22] Yeah something like 70 you know tens of millions of people vote for Donald Trump and then if you even take the small minority of that who are that passionate and you just assassinated their political candidate for 2024 I don't want to think about what would have happened and the

[00:14:41] unrest that probably would have happened. I think this probably would have snapped a lot of people and been like you know what we're not the people who usually protest in riot and get upset about this stuff. That might have been the final straw for a lot of people.

[00:14:53] What do you guys think? I think so like I don't you would I kind of joke about ultra freaking what do they call it the ultra freaking MAGA people or like freaking MAGA people yeah okay like

[00:15:03] I think we'd see a whole new level of what ultra freaking MAGA means by a small minority for sure. I definitely think Republicans would fracture. I think there'd be a lot of Republicans that

[00:15:15] come out and say we're not like that we're not going to replicate what we just spent three years calling out. Sure but I also think like you guys said there's also this side of his base

[00:15:29] that will have easily seen that as the last straw and I don't really know what that means but it's not positive and it's it's a collective reaction that I'm so thankful we're not in but you're

[00:15:44] right we were so close to I mean a very strange scary weird unstable timeline. Yeah it's kind of great crazy to think about that. Thankfully we don't have to think about

[00:16:00] what would that would have been like we dodged that by a millimeter I mean the videos you see like the one from CP3 meme who was actually there watching and they have the side profile like

[00:16:13] you know with the bullseye and like as he turned and you see like as the as he turned the bull's eye was like first it was here and then because he turned it went right by you're like man that is

[00:16:26] unbelievable that he turned right at that moment and this is why I want to talk about this because this is absolute lunacy the people who say this was staged and people were saying this like

[00:16:38] I was on Twitter and following and people were like minutes after we're saying this was staged and I was just like you have to be all sorts of dilulu to think that this was somehow staged

[00:16:51] Donald Trump would pay a marksman to go to this rally somehow get past the secret service if I guess in their mind the secret service was in on it and then trust that he was going to hit

[00:17:08] the tip of his ear from I don't know how far away what was it 130 or 400 feet or something like that 130 meters something about you're trusting that that marksman can nick your ear and not miss

[00:17:26] by that much because of wind or anything else and just blow your head off like that's like that liberals became conspiracy theorists yeah yeah yeah that joy read I think I think that's her name is all over X and all over her socials like it's like it's beyond

[00:17:46] the questions that need to be had it's more it's like it's coming to a conclusion that he was hit by glass that this is all staged it's fake it's like and this like that person didn't

[00:17:58] lose his life that firefighter like is that supposed to be fake that didn't really happen well I've seen people respond to that and they say you know oh Trump doesn't care about

[00:18:07] that person they would go to any length to stage that and it's like that's a why like that's such a wild thing to say I felt like it's a sick thing to say yeah it's it's it's but again that captures

[00:18:25] what led somebody to do this in the first place true that kind of delusion really right and um gosh I was gonna say something but I completely forgot now darn it somebody say something

[00:18:41] well some of the uh I don't recall names but some Democrat politicians have made comments you know on their social media about next time he won't they won't miss too bad he missed stuff like that

[00:18:57] and can you imagine if any if this had been Biden or some prominent Democrat and anybody on the right made comments like that can you even imagine what would happen I remember what I was gonna say now

[00:19:12] okay what would be the motive for Donald Trump to stage something this crazy after the debate in two weeks of non-stop news about how Biden is incapable of being president what would be his motivation like he's surging in the polls like Biden is basically being shoved out

[00:19:34] the door because he can't do anything like what would be his motive he's already leading in all the swing states and all the polls like what would be his motive to stage something so dangerous

[00:19:46] and ridiculous like he doesn't have to do anything he's he's winning by most measures he's winning they're predicting CNN's already predicting yeah he could possibly win like 330 electoral votes which probably the biggest electoral victory we've seen since Ronald Reagan I would have to say

[00:20:04] like for a Republican like that might be the biggest Republican electoral win so like why would he need to stage something so incredible when he's already winning by so much it doesn't it

[00:20:16] doesn't add up but this just shows how people are so like they're so wrapped up and they're absolute hatred for Donald Trump that they they don't see reason they can't see past that fact and they just

[00:20:27] are like they'll believe any dumb conspiracy theory they'll believe anything and they'll parrot the same thing over and over again it was staged it was he did this because he wanted to get more popular and even it so it's like people just forgot how to do critical thinking

[00:20:42] all together yeah yeah well years ago critical thinking definitely went out the door but speaking of conspiracy theories what are your guys's thoughts about on the opposite side what conspiracy theories that people have been pushing out there about this assassination

[00:21:00] attempt sorry what what do you mean well there's a lot of people who were saying oh you know the CIA was in on it the Secret Service was in on it like this was you know like there's two

[00:21:12] sizes it's staged it's set up right yeah right okay determined thank you for clarifying yeah Zach did a better job setting it up than I did well I can't oh I'm sorry I can't always be perfect and but that's why we brought Zach on

[00:21:31] two rabbit holes you can head down and I think both of them can be abusive and kind of miss the questions but yeah the other side is this was a a organized purposeful

[00:21:46] you know mishap to allow the the the the soup to bake the right way so where it's like oh damn he just you know he hit all the right angles and just went past us and and but you know but truly

[00:22:05] it was all coordinated they ignored the public calling for like there's a man with a gun on the roof which did happen right so there's there's merit to these questions about like this isn't

[00:22:16] seem like how Secret Service would react to you telling them that their person of protection is has a gun facing or pointed at them on a roof across the courtyard like that just doesn't add up

[00:22:29] why there wasn't an immediate response so then I think that adds to where people are like oh no they they they totally set them up okay I'll flip side no sorry finish your thought I was just gonna say

[00:22:41] I think ultimately it's gross incompetence and negligence and a lack of like crossing you know crossing T's and dotting I's but okay yes I agree with you there because I feel like if this was

[00:22:58] really intentionally set up they would have had more than one gunman to make sure the job got done you would not half ask this serious attempt to get rid of trauma yeah my friend again

[00:23:12] yeah then you see things oh sorry I was just gonna say you see things on the on the internet talking about the water tower I don't know if you've guys seen yeah I haven't seen the water

[00:23:23] gosh I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet there's a water tower theory that is another can of of speculation about the water tower that was off to a different angle which is what they're

[00:23:35] mapping the bullets from hitting them people in the back if you know people are drawing lines all over the place there is video of a black like figure near the top of the water tower

[00:23:49] as the shots go off and that black oh gosh there after so it's like people are like second shooter or was it the actual shooter and that kid was the the fall guy that you know had a bling that's

[00:24:01] her yeah had like maybe blank bullets and shots so it popped off but it was just like he's just the throwaway I don't know it's a rabbit hole that again not enough I mean I've been provided

[00:24:13] I enjoy a good conspiracy theory I like reading them because it's almost like reading like you know political fanfic of like what actually happened but I agree with you I think it is

[00:24:27] as of right now everything that we know I think it is and I'm saying this as of right now on what is it July 18 2024 so people don't come back at me and they're like oh you were wrong

[00:24:37] and blah blah blah you said this you're an idiot as of right now I I tend to agree with you it is gross incompetence it just looks like they didn't know what they were doing they didn't put people

[00:24:48] you know they're they're lame excuse of well it was the roof was too slopey like that's why we couldn't put people on there it's like okay I think that was her trying to like cover her

[00:24:58] own ass and be like oh that's why we did it and again if she had just come out and said like nope it was you know complete we botched it like we should have done better we're going to do better we're

[00:25:10] gonna add more we're gonna do an interim like the fact that she's stonewalling everybody adds fuel to that fire for people who were like oh they were in on it they were there was this

[00:25:21] this was all part of the plan um you know they couldn't jail them they couldn't indict them and all that stuff and now the last thing is they're going to try and kill them

[00:25:31] I think it's more when a lot of this stuff happens my initial reaction is there's just bad people in the world like there's bad in in you know evil people in the world they exist they are wild cards out there they're like neutrons just bouncing around amongst us

[00:25:53] this kid I mean if you're being told that Donald Trump is literally a threat to the way of American life and whether this country continues on or not and you repeat that for eight plus years

[00:26:07] somebody sooner or later is going to lose it who's unstable and go I'm going to take it upon myself to do something about this right like he he probably thought he was being a vigilante you know

[00:26:21] right so and I mean after the Biden debate if he's watching the news and he's a political guy he's probably sitting there going you know Biden's done Trump's surgeon in the polls everyone's saying Trump's going to win by a landslide now I have to do something radical we

[00:26:36] can't let Trump back in there because maybe he listens to you know whatever media whatever podcast or something that's telling them like what an existential threat Donald Trump is and then as

[00:26:46] I'm going to go I got to do something about this so I think that's most likely for me right now based on the evidence is gross incompetence kid who was screwed up who got kind of just radicalized

[00:26:59] um also according to Joy Reed uh if you are a white guy who buys 50 rounds of ammo all at once you are subject to a federal investigation please don't look at my past purchases when I go pick

[00:27:13] up ammo as a white guy who like how does a white guy get away with buying 50 rounds of ammo the fact she added in a white guy she's like and all the girls like they went to Anna Navarro

[00:27:27] who is supposedly a Republican they look at her and she's just like no that's that's wrong 50 rounds of ammo and you're like who if you knew what people really bought when they go to like to go pick up

[00:27:39] ammo 50 rounds is like oh I'm gonna bop in for a quick range session and get that over with and and I'm done like people don't just go so he bought one box wow he bought one box of ammo crazy

[00:27:52] yeah little things are scary those little like those little comments of like oh he should have been like that's where we start to get into just really I don't know I get really worried about that kind

[00:28:03] of well the government should know all that and if it's concerning to them they should like because he's white he's white yeah wow what what if it was a Latino guy who walked in and bought 50 rounds of ammo do they have to investigate him because he bought 50 rounds

[00:28:19] or is it just because it's a white guy who bought 50 rounds of ammo apparently was a white guy because she added white guys like Joy Reid who doesn't obviously has no concept of like guns and ammo

[00:28:33] but she needed to make sure that we knew like white guy suspicious which okay that guy was suspicious but no like not to leap in how how dare they not investigate the white guys buying ammo

[00:28:56] well I do want to get to the other topic so I don't know if you guys have any final thoughts about the assassination attempt as of right now I'm interested it seems like to me every day

[00:29:06] there's more videos and more stuff that comes out yeah more grassroots stuff that's being put up on X and stuff like that so you know every day I wake up there's more videos there's more angles and stuff

[00:29:16] like that so I'm not even a weekend like thank god that Trump did survive he wasn't seriously injured and I would say the same thing about Biden or any democrat politician I think you know

[00:29:32] you know yes I own guns and more than 50 rounds of ammo but at least I'm not a white guy I'm a white girl but no for real like that's sick and that's sad and like can you imagine I don't Biden's how old 80

[00:29:48] something like if that was Biden and he had been shot and it did kill him what a sad sad way to go you live your whole life and that's like no like he should just you know not now I'm not promoting his

[00:30:02] death but I hope for him that when he does die that he literally just gets to peacefully fall asleep one night and in this mansion in Delaware I don't want I don't want anyone shot I don't want

[00:30:15] anyone to go through some torturous awful death ever that you know no one deserves that well there's five feet from the world to deserve that but not not our American politicians like

[00:30:25] I would not I would be having the same conversation if it were Biden yeah very very to be clear about that this is not all Republicans upset that they're candidate and this like this is this is a conversation

[00:30:39] that should be had as Americans and strictly as Americans and I think that looking at yeah this was Biden we should be just as outraged if there's an Nancy Pelosi just as outraged like

[00:30:51] that taking bullet shots on our our elected officials should be some 18th century third world stuff not yeah not just imagine hating someone's politics so much that you're like this is what

[00:31:06] they deserve no yeah crazy um last thing on this before we move on uh how badass was that photo though that he got getting up because so that actually says a lot about his mental clarity

[00:31:23] yeah I mean the fact that he got up on dry land or something but yeah I if I were shot at I I don't think I'd I would be able to stand up and think in the moment like oh I should let all my supporters

[00:31:36] know I'm okay I probably I would have not responded that way I probably would have no idea if I was okay I feel like it'd be to a hospital I don't know I don't know what's what's happening like

[00:31:51] yeah that was a very human human like testimony of fight or flight yeah and I think him exhibiting the fight literally after in that situation I mean that you had hard Democrats on social media being

[00:32:08] like it's a pretty badass thing like there's like almost undenying like that kind of reaction to death facing death and being able to understand your moment what's happening and then look back to the

[00:32:22] crowd that you were just speaking almost died in front of and tell them you know like that's a that's a split second kind of testimony a little bit of someone's resilience as a you know just

[00:32:32] that human American spirit and I think undeniably a Democrats a lot of Democrats saw that picture and probably a little inspired by it because of what it symbolically was representing after an attempted

[00:32:46] assassination on a US former president so I think like it's been said that picture will be in the history books to our great great great great great great great great like that'll be one

[00:32:55] for the books yeah it'll be up there with like you know Truman holding up the Dewey Beach Truman it'll be like that it'll be like those political pictures of when we were watching it on

[00:33:07] Saturday and we saw that picture my wife commented who is an independent she's no Trump or or maga person she looked at that picture with his fist up and everything and she goes that's it

[00:33:18] that's the election he won the election how do you not look at that picture and go like that's the most badass thing I've ever seen and yeah that wins the election for him I was

[00:33:29] like okay well an independent is saying that how many other independents are looking at it going like yeah that's that's pretty badass that's the president we want we're gonna discuss did that win the

[00:33:40] election or is that kind of segue into what's going on with Biden yeah we can segue into it I don't know what you guys want to talk about next we have a couple topics they're all kind of mashed together so I wanted to give you a quick update

[00:33:57] since I've been refreshing ex Robert Costa says sources close to president Biden tell me tonight they're furious that while the president is trying to recover from COVID and I have no idea how to

[00:34:09] say this name a pressure campaign keeps picking up speed lots of anger towards some donors for talking of money drying up if he doesn't quit so conflicting reports on whether Biden

[00:34:23] is dropping out or not there's we before we all hopped on there was the newsmax report that he is dropping out this weekend looks like people are saying not so fast like that's not the official

[00:34:34] report I would like to go on the record and say Biden did not kill himself yeah okay I mean they've been pressuring to him to get out they know they're losing all this and I'm not I'm

[00:34:45] not saying he's faking COVID but are they faking COVID are they keeping him under wraps and then he I mean it would kind of they'd be shooting themselves in the foot not to make a shooting

[00:34:59] reference but to say that COVID killed him given that they were the ones that also said if you get the vaccinations you won't get COVID you won't die of COVID you'll be safe from COVID

[00:35:11] you know but it's it's just there was what was it like I'm not dropping out a time in if it turns out that Kamala Harris can beat Trump in the polls then maybe then I might drop out it's going to

[00:35:25] take a medical condition for me to drop out I have COVID and then the Washington Post drops the article that Obama is meeting with people telling Biden now to drop out I don't know

[00:35:36] if you guys saw that but I think I've heard by that Obama saying something but yeah Obama's changed his tone and I think that to me that to me is the is the if Obama saying it's over for you it's

[00:35:50] probably over for you and I hear Nancy is also trying to talk with him so if these you know in Schumer if these level of Democrats are in his ear it's really going to create a weird divide

[00:36:05] at that level of the Democrat Party where now Biden has to either say screw you I'm going to the finish line and fumble the bag all the way to November or is he going to bow out and then I guess the

[00:36:21] assumption is Kamala takes the reins and then picks up Gavin I don't so it's drastic and there's got to be a like a musical chairs that happens because I can't see them sticking with

[00:36:38] Biden to an almost certain defeat so I don't know that's my take well and if he drops out then they're going to have to admit he's not even capable of finishing his presidency for this term

[00:36:55] I just wanted to share this because this is the timeline we are in right now is a Hulk Hogan just spoke at the RNC oh he's still around yep he spoke tonight and he did his famous

[00:37:06] Hulk Hogan ripping off shirt off of course sorry go ahead no I feel like I'm kind of getting conspiracy theory around here too but if they can basically get Biden so sick that then he dies of said

[00:37:20] sickness Kamala Harris can become the first female president and of color and then they get that win and then they get to call her the incumbent president and all the things and like they could see the they got a desperately recover somehow because everyone knows this has become

[00:37:42] a sad joke for him I think the the bigger question is if you are Gavin Newsom right now and you know we all we've talked about it on this show like plenty of times again bringing it back to California right we do talk about California politics on here

[00:37:59] that's usually what we talk about but we couldn't ignore this story this week if you're Gavin Newsom and you saw the debate and you saw how bad Biden did and then you see this attempted assassination attempt of Trump and then you see his poll numbers

[00:38:15] surging in all the swing states do you kind of go yeah I think I'll keep my powder dry for 2028 like maybe it's not the best thing to run right now because it looks like it's

[00:38:29] going to be Trump and I don't know how anybody gets into the race in August and wins the presidency that quickly like that would be a pretty monumental feat to jump in around August and win in four months and become president of the United States so

[00:38:48] that's sort of where I'm at is like I don't know even know who'd want to jump they I mean probably be Kamala Kamala would probably take his stand up and be like oh I'll run against

[00:38:56] Trump I think she'll get slaughtered worse than Biden would to be honest I think her poll numbers are way worse against Trump California primary yeah I that's how bad she was like she didn't

[00:39:08] even win her own state and like I saw polls this morning where she was down by like 11 or 12 points in like Pennsylvania against Trump it's like there's no path forward for Kamala to win

[00:39:20] but she might be the sacrificial lamb of like she gets to run against Trump as a presidential candidate but they all know she's gonna lose and they're just gonna have to eat it for four years until

[00:39:32] Newsom's ready to run in 2028 so sounds very yeah that's how they look at these things they look multiple years down the road and figure out how to position and play the next chapter and I think they've probably agreed this chapter is over on Gavin he probably a couple

[00:39:48] things that I noticed okay one he probably recognizes that this country is in a very bad state of course he doesn't really care that state isn't a bad state but whoever gets this next presidency has

[00:40:03] they have to clean up a lot of mess that's happened in four years and and so I feel like even if Trump wins and he does a lot of things like people are still gonna have very negative

[00:40:13] reactions to him because there's so much and he can you really accomplish that much in four years I'm sure you can accomplish a lot but there's a whole lot and I think Gavin

[00:40:23] wouldn't want that I don't I think he doesn't want his presidency to be like a possible look at like people being negative because in the first four years he didn't clean up you know and undo

[00:40:35] everything that Biden has done but then also Bill was it the last episode or two weeks before that we were talking about the recent bills that had passed and we were saying Gavin didn't

[00:40:45] actually sign anything too crazy this time because of you know his presidential sites but then the following week Biden was absolutely adamant that he was not stepping down not stepping down not

[00:40:57] stepping down he's gonna run and then all of a sudden and I know we're not discussing those bills tonight but all of a sudden Gavin started signing a couple crazy things that were like

[00:41:06] what are you doing? Yeah maybe once you saw that path closed he was like uh yeah I can sign these bills now. He's like okay I get to kind of go back to focusing on being crazy in California

[00:41:16] because I'm not going to get this presidency for 2024 like he probably is like okay I got a couple years before I have to tone it down again. Yeah and I just want to pick up like what Zach said

[00:41:29] is so important about like how parties look at this stuff I know every election they say this is the most consequential election of our lifetime like literally the sky will fall. I mean that's what they said about 2020 we're all still here barely you know getting by and stuff

[00:41:48] like that. Yeah we're all hanging on but America's still here like we haven't completely crumbled yet but yeah I think people have to realize political parties look at these things

[00:42:00] not in like a one year or a two year they're looking at a lot of this over like 10 years or 15 years. Like they're looking at projections for 10 or 15 years of like you know if we lose

[00:42:15] this term yeah okay you know it's Trump's four years he's Don he can't run again who do they have behind him we like our bench better than their bench like we think they do you know how many

[00:42:28] internal polls of like well how does Gavin Newsom stack up against JD Vance in Pennsylvania how does Gavin Newsom stack up against Marco Rubio like it's like they're doing these polls all the time so they

[00:42:40] know they have way more data than you or I have about like the future of these parties so they they're probably looking at it as like if we throw the white flag on this year and just go

[00:42:53] all right Trump will get in he'll do his four years we'll all you know say he's literally Hitler for four years and then in four years we'll roll out two fresh new candidates like yeah that's what's

[00:43:04] gonna happen. And Newsom's young. This is my thought. Like he's young. He's not going anywhere so you know there's a lot of young Democrats who are itching to probably run for president Governor Whitmer I'm sure is itching to run for president Newsom's itching to run for

[00:43:18] president you know if Kamala loses maybe she's itching to run for president again you know and there's a lot of young Republicans who might be trying to take up Trump's mantle in four years and get Trump's blessing to run so you know it's

[00:43:36] interesting to see how politicians play this out knowing that they might lose save your powder keep your powder dry for the next four years and just be ready in 2028 I know speaking before we talk about the RNC and JD Vance there was a topic YouTube brought up

[00:43:54] that I actually did not really have any strong feelings about but I think you guys have strong feelings about it so I'm going to let you guys run with it. I feel like you're so pathetic because

[00:44:03] I was literally just like when are we gonna have to get to talk about that. Matt Walsh got roasted on X for calling out Amber Rose because she spoke at the RNC and everybody that is anybody was calling him out being like this is the wrong take so

[00:44:22] I'll let you guys run with it. I know you guys had some quite you had thoughts about it so Zach start I don't I don't know what your thoughts are you didn't say then it was just

[00:44:32] I know just my reaction yeah I want to know. I think this is the purity test of what it means to be a Republican and what Republicanism covers is the single biggest shot in our foot we do as

[00:44:49] a party because if we keep trying to cookie cutter what a Republican is supposed to be how they're supposed to arrive at this perspective how they're supposed to behave in their private life

[00:45:00] for their public life like if we keep creating all these parameters of this perfect person no one's gonna even pretend to be a part of that that group and so Amber Rose who clearly is not a

[00:45:13] traditional Republican does not do traditional Republican things comes out and speaks on a story that she has of an of a journey of her coming to a realization after doing her own independent reading and not depending on the outside world to inform her um leading her to

[00:45:32] where she's at like we should be embracing that I mean even just publicly strategically you know culturally like we should be this is what it means to expand and open the tent if a bunch of only fan girls want to vote Republican because they're inspired by whatever

[00:45:48] we should embrace that it doesn't that doesn't tear away from what Republicans stand for right just because someone arrives at being a Republican or wanting to vote for them I just think it's the wrong play at a point in a time where the party is evolving and

[00:46:05] shifting society is evolving and shifting and to be relevant you need to adapt and adopt so that's kind of my winded answer but yeah I feel the same she's very influential she has millions

[00:46:18] of followers um and she has you know come out and basically said the Democrat party isn't for me because you know and I've arrived at this because of x y and z and it's very possible

[00:46:30] that there are other like only fans girls who have kind of felt the same way and but didn't know where to go with that like and they were like oh she's doing it maybe maybe she's there's

[00:46:43] something to this um his tweet you know now I'm paraphrasing but it was something like a woman with a face tattoo self-proclaimed slut okay if we're gonna do this whole parody test

[00:46:55] matt walsh and I like matt walsh for the most part he actually says a lot of no nonsense stuff but if we're gonna do this parody test how many baby mom is this trump have

[00:47:04] then trump should not be our like pleading republican nominee um and and then I don't understand you know there's a lot of um christian conservative influencers who believe that the

[00:47:18] republican party needs to be christian and and I don't I don't get that in the sense of like okay if if we're going to be a christian party we're not we shouldn't be you know like it's just

[00:47:31] these are stances on these issues but if we're if we're gonna say that if we're gonna be like I'm a christian and a republican party needs to be christian and therefore this this this and this

[00:47:40] then they need to kind of go back to their bibles and realize that Jesus died on the cross for every single person and and that he's like you can seek salvation at any point in your life

[00:47:53] after anything you've done and he will still forgive you and so how dare matt walsh get up and be like oh this woman isn't good enough for the republican party and the republican party

[00:48:02] needs to be christian like that doesn't even add up all that doesn't make sense so I yeah I was very disappointed and i'm glad there was backlash all that and he's still kind of standing his ground

[00:48:13] and doubling down but now this one was an L for matt walsh and not good for the republican party not a good look at all no I well just do uh some uh responses of big names so Scott Pressler says matt

[00:48:30] this is completely the wrong take amber roses even offered to do a voter registration event with me and philly you do where she's from which is a big deal if you can chip away at philadelphia which

[00:48:41] is a stronghold for democrats her speech was vulnerable and relatable to a lot of folks especially women we embrace and welcome the real amber rose uh our good friend brandon tatum said

[00:48:52] you should probably speak with her before making an ignorant post like this I've spoken with her she since denounced publicly many of her old ideas people change not everyone has the same road to

[00:49:02] truth you of all people should understand that um and this one I thought was actually really interesting marjorie taylor green uh actually I take that back that was a parody post um

[00:49:16] I thought it was I was like oh look she even commented but even I got wait wait what did it wasn't marjorie taylor green it wasn't marjorie taylor great it was just it was a parody it was a

[00:49:26] parody account my bad uh this is from the quartering that says the fact that this tweet exists proves she's moving the needle she's not popular in fishing or beard oil circles but to ignore her influence with other circles you may not be familiar with with is a folly

[00:49:40] all are welcome on the trump train so yeah same thing no yeah I think like that's something that you know if you're you can't be both you can't say you're the big tent republicans and and we're

[00:49:54] going to take all these voters and then all of a sudden be a gatekeeper and be like no you're not welcome and you're not christian enough or you're not conservative enough and like you know

[00:50:05] we deal with that on this show like people are like oh why are you calling out republicans you're not conservative enough for you to you have the right ideas so I mean the gatekeeping

[00:50:14] needs to stop if you're gonna really expand the party to dominate elections for the foreseeable future otherwise you're just going to be irrelevant so yeah what is the right you can't sit with this

[00:50:26] attitude yeah the me sorry I keep interrupting you go ahead here I'm just gonna say what she demonstrated in being vulnerable on such a massive stage about her political which for most

[00:50:40] people is pretty personal for their political journey to be able to come out there and be sort of that pillar of that change like that's the lens we should be looking at not going after her past and

[00:50:52] going through her tweets or doing whatever people are trying to do like this is not how we grow like you said this is not practicing what we're preaching about being in a bigger tent and

[00:51:02] opening it up so yeah that's I'm glad there was some words to be said about that because it was different for the RNC but it was the right move for the RNC to start doing do do we not always say

[00:51:18] like the RNC is just like they're doing nothing they're staying with their old ways they're not bringing in new people and it's like and then they literally did in one of the biggest

[00:51:30] ways possible and in fact like you said that she was willing to be open about it because so many people are private about it and she's obviously a huge name and she got up there knowing that she

[00:51:41] could lose her base completely you know and that it could run her and but it was she was so passionate about it it was something that to her was such a big deal that yeah that she was like

[00:51:53] hey you know here's here's what happened with me and yeah I just thank you Amber Rose yeah you are welcome all are welcome all are welcome to um all right real quick because I know President Trump is

[00:52:10] probably going to be hopping on the RNC stage very shortly if he hasn't already so I don't want to keep everyone from that um JD Vance yay or nay thoughts I have some fun facts for you

[00:52:22] if you want to learn about him I feel like I'm still neutral because I don't know a lot about him I like I've read somewhat of his journey speaking of journeys and I like where he's come from

[00:52:34] and the transformations that he's made and but I am still learning about well would you like to hear some facts about JD Vance well I want I want Zach's opinion it's why okay well I didn't

[00:52:47] know if Zach want me to say the facts and then he could give his opinion okay I'll say real quick yeah why don't you do that yeah okay uh he's 39 years old so he's a year only a year older than me

[00:52:59] which makes me feel like that's pretty cool a VP who is my age uh he's Catholic uh he was raised Protestant but then converted to Catholicism nice best-selling author Hillbilly Elegy which then was turned into a movie on Netflix uh his grandparents were Democrats uh his grandparents

[00:53:22] were pro-union Democrats based on FDR he used to be a CNN contributor um he wants abortion left to the states um and he's critical of Ukraine aid so there we go there's like 38 other facts but I

[00:53:39] figured for the show yeah I actually have a few of those articles pulled up Zach thoughts yeah so I think bias you know in a biased way I like that he's young I like that the Republican side of politics

[00:53:53] is beginning to not just lip service the youth they're actually bringing them to the table and this is a monumentous way of doing that um because Democrats let's I mean to be clear they've been doing that they've been doing that actually pretty effectively getting the youth pipeline

[00:54:08] into the decision-making whereas Republicans as we said have have played gatekeeper to our detriment and this is a move that I think shakes the whole conversation for con for for young Republicans moving forward on on our importance our relevance in our contributions to this to this

[00:54:31] discussion and I think he um and like you said Camille I'm also still trying to figure him out and learn about him and understand his story I know he was raised by you know a single parent

[00:54:42] I as well so I relate to those different struggles that you know he's endured in his life and um you know I'm I'm optimistic I may and I think Camille you sort of alluded to this but I actually

[00:54:56] and of course he's getting a lot of crap from multiple angles on the things he has said in the past but I like genuinely like that he's been that critical of Trump because if Trump can and I'm

[00:55:08] sure he's not unaware of these criticisms or these pushbacks that JD Vance has quite passionately provided in the past for him to bring him into the circle of discussion I think that shows that

[00:55:23] another angle that you're not getting a yes man you're getting somebody that's been quite open about telling Trump to stuff it and you know and I think having them in a in a working together

[00:55:34] environment is going to provide probably I would say better results for Trump to act on because it's going to have not just yeah do it do what you want do whatever you want and I think

[00:55:44] I think he will provide that generational perspective but also that like maybe maybe think differently and I think that's what Republicans in general need but Trump can benefit hugely from that's a good point I don't again I don't know much about him I like his story I

[00:56:03] know he went to Yale Law School and was like the editor of Law Review which if you don't know about law schools like being editor of the law review is like basically you're like the smartest

[00:56:12] person and most qualified person in Yale Law School wasn't a editor of the Harvard I think he was also oh gosh it's a conspiracy theory it's another editor of Yale Law it's Skolin

[00:56:24] Bones all over again now we started a conspiracy theory um yeah I like that it's he that like Zach said they are trending younger in terms of I don't know if you know who the milk boys are

[00:56:38] they're like a comedy group um they had an interview today with Kimberly Guilfoyle like and they were just outspoken like we are gonna go like hard on like getting 18 year olds registered to vote and like we're pushing people to like support Donald Trump and I'm like

[00:56:57] you got the milk boys like like that's a like you're talking about that generational like culture tapping into the culture like that's and they made a good point where they were saying all those kids who are 14 in 2020 will follow us they're now all 18 so like it's a generate

[00:57:17] so they're actually doing it um so I from what I like I mean I like him so far but he's a vice presidential candidate so you know if people think it moves the needle one way or the other I don't even think vice presidential candidates really move the

[00:57:33] needle that one much one way or another I just think he'd probably be a good vice president in the White House so um any other final thoughts before we sign off for

[00:57:45] the night um because I know I think President Trump is on right now so I don't want to take up too much of your time any other final thoughts on everything we discussed

[00:57:55] but this could probably be probably be like five episodes so this is uh five episodes and and all that this has happened in one week and there's 110 days left for this election or something anything can happen yeah this could be crazy um and we'll promise we'll talk about

[00:58:13] that Newport Beach ordinance about garbage cans on our next show um I have to find out all this information now tune in next time about the Newport Beach garbage can ordinance when we talk

[00:58:22] about California politics again um all right before we sign off Zach where can people find you and follow you and get more of your insight like yeah I'm always accessible I'm very engaged

[00:58:33] in my local community here in San Diego I have my username right here at Zach Giannino it's just my name first last on every social media outlet uh so yeah please feel free to message

[00:58:45] interact um and if you want to get more involved I'm your guy so I will help you do that and thank you again for letting me come on here and share some perspectives and um kind of hash these things

[00:58:56] out it's very therapeutic actually in it well that's one reason we do the podcast it's very therapeutic for us to talk about this stuff but yeah always a pleasure having you on Zach we love

[00:59:06] having you on here you're a great guest so look forward to having you back soon um and like we end every show uh make sure you like share subscribe review comment helps with the algorithm

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