Don't Vote for Me, Vote for Us - Elaine Culotti Gubernatorial Candidate

Don't Vote for Me, Vote for Us - Elaine Culotti Gubernatorial Candidate

In this episode of the California Underground podcast, Elaine Culotti shares her unconventional journey and bold vision for California, emphasizing the need to rethink the state's political and economic systems.


She advocates for no-party preference candidacy, fiscal responsibility, and grassroots campaigns to bring real change.


Key Topics:

  • The rise of no-party preference candidates and what it means for California politics
  • Why California’s political establishment is broken and how to fix it
  • Reorganization of cities and counties through Chapter 9 bankruptcy to cut costs and improve accountability
  • The influence of billionaires, NGOs, and special interests on California’s governance
  • Countering unfunded mandates like sanctuary city policies and high-density housing regulations
  • The importance of economic development and creating 2 million jobs to revitalize the state
  • How to leverage small, clean campaigns with grassroots donations instead of big-money influence
  • The concept of building a "Great American Credit Union" and alternative funding models
  • Addressing California’s housing crisis by reducing red tape and enabling entrepreneurs
  • Restoring water infrastructure and resource management for sustainable growth
  • The call for a political revolution and genuine leadership

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Original air date 3.10.26


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California has never had a governor who's ran as no party

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preference. But tonight, our guest, Elaine

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Colotti, farmer, real estate developer, Palisades fire

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survivor and now candidate for governor, who says she's asking

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you not to vote for her, but to vote for us.

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We're going to talk about her entire platform, what she plans

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to do if she becomes governor. And we're going to get started

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with that on tonight's episode, The California Underground,

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starting right now. What's going on everybody?

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Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California

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Underground. We have a great guest tonight,

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another camp for governor. We have more candidates.

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We're going to have tons of candidates all over 2026.

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So without further ado, let's bring in, First off, my trusty

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Co host, the best of fastest researcher in the West.

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And then we'll also bring in our guest, Elaine Colotti.

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Elaine, welcome to the show. How are you?

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Oh my God, it's so excited to be here.

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I love what you guys are doing. How about this?

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How about having a platform for candidates and no party

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preference? I just want to.

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Say. Two people jumped the line

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today. James Woods jumped the line.

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He said he's not going to be a Republican anymore.

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He's no party preference. And Kevin Kiley jumped the line.

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He's not going to be a Republican anymore.

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He's going to be a no party preference.

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We're seeing a trend. We're seeing a trend.

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Well, that's I think you'd appreciate my mug that I

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designed. It says political affiliation,

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Democrat, Republican, and it's checked.

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It says tear it all down and start all over.

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So that's sort of our feeling on this show as we've become like,

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I love it, like we can't take it.

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We're just like we're. I have always said burn it down

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but now I feel like that's I'm being insensitive to people.

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That's OK that. Was always my thing.

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I was just like, burn it down, but I didn't mean literally.

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So yeah, let the let the bridge. What?

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Let the bridge burning behind me light my way ahead.

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Exactly. Elaine, welcome to the show.

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Why don't you take a minute to introduce yourself to all our

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viewers who are on tonight and anybody who has a question for

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Elaine, make sure you drop it in the chat.

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I'll be watching. So, Elaine, let us know who you

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are. Hi everybody.

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My name is Elaine Colotti. I'm a Pacific Palisades resident

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and business owner and I also have a farm in Fallbrook in San

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Diego County. I've been here since 1991.

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I've raised all my kids here. I'm an entrepreneur, I am a

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developer. Some of you may know me from

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Undercover Billionaire where I went to Fresno and turned

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something out of nothing. It's a it's a great reality

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television show on Bravo. And I got pretty fed up during

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the fires, which, you know, I'm not the only one.

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However, I am the only one from the fires running for Governor

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of California. I've spent quite a bit of time

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in business and business development and I look at

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California as a really bad failed business.

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I also spent last year traveling from Humboldt County to Chula

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Vista filming a show called Mayors Matter, interviewing

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mayors across California. And I think I got a pretty good

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idea, literally from 52 mayors, what needs to change in

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California. And to be quite frank, although

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we don't have any money, which we can talk about a little later

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in the chat, I think that we have a really good starting

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place with the communities that are operating well and the

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people that are willing to keep that going.

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That's that's more than 50% of California.

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Yeah, I guess that's a we'll just jump right in with the no

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party preference. I, I, I think there is more and

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more people who are getting fed up with kind of the two party

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system and sort of the political I'm, I hate political tribalism.

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And sometimes even our own followers or listeners lash out

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at us and they're like, oh, you said something bad about Trump.

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How dare you? You must hate America.

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Bah, Bah, Bah, like you must love the liberals.

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And it's like, if you critique the Republicans, you're a

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socialist leftist. But if you're critiquing, you

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know, the leftist, then they think you're a fascist.

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And so I think there's a lot of people who are just throwing up

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their hands and going like, forget both sides.

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You're both so tribalistic. We just need, we need solutions.

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We need like actual solutions. We need adults in the room who

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are like, let's just get down to brass tacks of what's going on

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here. So explain your decision to go

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no party preference as opposed to jumping in on either of the

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two sides. OK, so 41% of Californians are

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actually no party preference, which is pretty high. 51% of

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Californians are women and I think women are best represented

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at no party preference because unfortunately, like everybody's

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got different needs. It's like saying that farmers

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are better represented by Democrats than Republicans.

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It's just not true. The farmers are actually very

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conservative and much better representative by Republicans.

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What happened with me is my party kind of left me and it, it

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actually started probably in 2016.

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I was pretty disillusioned with the Benghazi thing and Hillary

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Clinton. And then I wasn't enamored with

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Trump by any means, but I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

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And I all my neighbors in, in, in the Palisades and, and people

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were mad at me because I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

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I just thought, God, that's so crazy.

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Like, I thought who you voted for was kind of private and, you

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know, it was your personal business.

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And it just became clear to me that politics does divide people

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a lot more than people believe that it does, that people like

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to think they have autonomy and agency from it, but they really

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don't. Marriages break up over it.

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And so I can't imagine how California can mend and, you

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know, and become unified again if I'm a Republican or a

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Democrat at this point, because I don't really, they don't

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represent me in polarity at all. In fact, even if you take the

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horseshoe method, I know a lot of people talk about the

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horseshoe method where it's broader on the top and it really

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left, left and right, right on the bottom, or where the

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horseshoe is the closest. There's so much more similar to

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each other at that point than they are to the general mass.

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I just fit in in terms of issues.

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I'm fiscally extremely conservative.

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I can balance a checkbook. I have.

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I've signed the front of a check for 35 years.

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I don't, you know, my payroll is really high.

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I have had to manage and negotiate high level deals.

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And, you know, I'm not, I don't do well when there's no fiscal

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responsibility. And the Democrats and the

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Democratic Party have kind of always had a larger massing of,

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of, of government. They believe in bigger

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government, which is actually quite interesting because the

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reason they believe in government is for the management

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of social issues rather than the management of fiscal issues.

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And I don't actually disagree with that.

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I do think it would be better if certain things were handled by,

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you know, government on the social side.

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But you have to have good outcomes if you're going to do

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that. We don't have good outcomes

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anymore because we've kind of lost the plot.

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Instead of really focusing on solving homeless problems, for

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example, the Democrats don't actually do that as a democratic

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governmental body, but rather they hire an NGO or a group in

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the middle to do it. And then they don't manage it

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because the management part is the fiscal responsibility part.

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So we've got the swath in the middle that is eating up all of

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our funding. And this is not new news to

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anybody. If you you know, at least less

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you're living under a rock, you know that, you know, they're

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dozing things and busting up things and running around trying

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to figure out where the money went.

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And that's because the Democratic Party and the

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Republican Party on both sides of the aisle have allowed these

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non governmental agencies to operate without oversight.

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And, you know, they've done it legally.

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And you know what, what concerns me the most about that is we'll

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probably never recover that money and probably no one will

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be held accountable. And that is really, really

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tremendous. But that's, it's possible.

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That's what at least that's what we're so far seeing.

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They make some token arrests, you know, to make you feel

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better about it. But at the end of the day, the

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money's gone. What is it, $11 billion or

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something like that is gone in in Minnesota, out of the

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country? Minnesota is probably pale in

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comparison to what's going on here in California.

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We had Herb Morgan last on Herb Morgan last night.

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I could keep saying Herb Morgan, Herb Morgan on last night or

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last week and Erb Morgan. I love.

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Him, Erb, Morgan, he's a smart guy.

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He was great and he took a position that frankly, if I, we

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said to him on the show last week, if you told us what was

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state controller and you stopped us at a cocktail party before

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last week, we would have been able to give you an answer.

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And we follow this, we follow politics pretty close.

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But his point is that so much money is going to these NGOs and

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to these non governmental organizations and it's just a

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black hole of it's not the government handling it.

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It's just we're going to contract this out.

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We're going to farm this out to these NGOs.

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And then the end result is you get Alexander Souffer in LA who

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has a $5 home in Brentwood, flies private, he has

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a Range Rover. He's given himself, you know, 6

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figure, huge salaries and then he's feeding instant ramen.

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That's a governmental problem of like accountability and

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leadership. I think of you can't just throw

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money at these NGOs and say, here, take it, here's billions

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of dollars, you do the best you can with it.

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Like, I think that's a governmental breakdown, right?

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It's a it's also a culture that's developed and it's a

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favor paying mechanism because as you can imagine, which is

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another perfect reason for MPP is Democrats and Republicans

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have massive funding compared to the middle.

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An average Democratic governors race in California is going to

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cost $200 million and and no party preference is going to

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cost $10 million. Why?

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It's the same damn race. But at the end of the day,

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there's all these people that are involved in these big, huge

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races that, you know, the governor's grift, right?

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They're like, if you're going to run for governor, you know, you

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should fully expect to have to spend this much.

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And then they raise those funds from all of the big people that

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are now operating NGOs. You know, they're large pharma,

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they're large lobby companies. They're the Trial Lawyers

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Association. It's the, I could just go on and

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on. It's farming, agriculture, a big

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AG and then you have all the unions.

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I mean Steiger just bought a bunch of unions with financing.

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It's crazy to me that you can buy your way into the governor's

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office and the only way out of that is to be in the middle.

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And then if in you're in the middle like I am, you know,

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you're trying to self fund and you're doing like door knocking

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and you're doing basically, it's better to get $1001.00 donations

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than it is one $1000 donation because you're working on

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engagement. And if you do that and you kiss

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a lot of babies and knock a lot of doors, people get to know

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you. But it's a clean campaign is my

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point. It's a clean campaign.

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I I'd rather do that and lose than take a bunch of money from

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a bunch of people and make a pay back.

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A bunch of people win and have like no autonomy and no agency

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to and that's what we keep. People can't say that I'd rather

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take a bath and hand my 5% or 10% that I get if I win to a

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candidate that has has agency. But if you don't have like her,

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what Herb is saying is absolutely true, right?

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When I, when I started thinking about what I could do, the first

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thing I looked into is can you bankrupt a state so that you can

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reorganize it, but you cannot. So states are sovereign.

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So my first 100 days in office, I can't bankrupt California,

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right? Everybody's like, that's really

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bad. Your bonds will be like, wait a

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second. If you're being ripped off and

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you know you're being ripped off, but you can't shut down all

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of those pay holes in the boat, then you can't get you can't get

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in front of the laws. And the only way to do it is

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bankruptcy and reorganization. So you can file.

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And there is actually Chapter 9 for cities.

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It's a municipality Chapter 9 bankruptcy plan.

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And you can go to Karen Bass and sit down and say, hey, hi, I'm

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the new governor. Hopefully, you know, she's

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becomes the mayor. Who knows who it's going to be.

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I hope not Nithya Rahman. I just want to say that, guys,

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if you're not paying attention, Nithya Rahman is a democratic

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socialist. So Karen Bass is like a

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Republican compared to her. So let's say I sit down with

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Karen Bass and I say, hey, Karen, you know, look, here's

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where we are. If we bankrupt LA, we could cut

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all of these NGOs out under reorganization, and we'll pay

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the bills that we have to pay. And then we can do

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investigations and we can figure out where all the money's going.

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And if they're good and they're working, they'll be reinstated.

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If they're not, we'll get rid of them.

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That is a meaningful plan, and that is something that Herb

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Morgan can execute. But you have to have a governor

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that's willing to do it, and nobody on the Democratic side

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right now is willing to do it. That would never happen.

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Would Steve and Chad Bianco be willing to do it?

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Probably because some of the groups that are funding them

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would allow and some of them wouldn't.

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I mean, it comes down to whether or not when you're in the

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governor's office, if you have agency, that's really what it

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comes down to. And if you're going to be bought

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and sold, you're going to have a really hard time saying that you

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have agency in the governor's office with a straight face.

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So NPP starts to be very powerful to the public when

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they're fed up about what that actually means.

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Yes, it's self funded. Yes, it's a lot of work, but

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it's a lot of work for a very short period of time.

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You're going to know if you can get an NPP in office by the

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primary. That is realistically, well,

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about 1.5 million votes. I need 1.5 million people to

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vote for me to be in the primary.

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And if I get in the primary, I will win the general election

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because then all the sudden you lose.

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Like whoever didn't get in, whatever Democrat or Republican

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didn't get in, they're going to see me as the best way forward

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because I'm a moderate and a real moderate.

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Like walk the walk, talk, the talk.

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That's my my action. So I feel like the NPP is super

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powerful, not just for me, but also for the people of

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California that are really truly fed up, like willing to vote

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out, willing to take a stance. It's not about whether people

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can say that what it is now about, which is tough.

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And I'm asking all of you to please spread this word.

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I mean, really, do you have to get engaged?

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You have to actually go to the voting poll and vote.

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This is the thing. If you don't do that, then you

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never you're not going to change anything.

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And historically in primaries, only about 7 million people vote

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across the entire state. So in in a general election for

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that, that which will be after the primary.

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So the November election, it will be closer to 11 million

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people. But by then the bed is kind of

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made. You know what I mean?

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You've already got two people that you might not want.

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Yeah. And so it's really important in

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this new election that's coming up in June.

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You're talking about like 85 days away or something that if

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you really want meaningful change, go to the voting poll.

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Vote for who you want. It might not be me.

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That's fine. You're not voting for me anyway.

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You're voting for us. That's my whole point.

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But go to the voting poll. 100% yeah.

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We do try to so, so many people show up to the polls in November

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and they're like, I don't like these two options.

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Why are these my two options? Because you ignored the primary.

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Yes, yes, exactly. We say it all the time, yeah.

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We just got to push it, push it, push it to go.

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And like, I'm Elaine Colotti, see me, see me, see me, you

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know, vote for me because what I am is I'm the next step in

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change. I'm cut.

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I, I, the 1st order of business is to fly to DC and sit on the

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steps of the White House and beg Donald Trump to come help us

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federally. We have no federal conversation

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whatsoever because of Gavin Newsom.

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This is not democratic. This is literally an inability

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to communicate. Bury whatever, bury your hatchet

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on behalf of California and represent California federally.

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We, the job of the governor is to have a federal relationship.

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It's the one of three tent poles of Sacramento.

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Sacramento's responsibilities are, let me make them really

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clear. So people don't, you know, a lot

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of people don't understand Sacramento's job is to keep

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Californians safe. That safe bucket is everything.

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That's your Police Department, fire department, your EMT's get

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cleaning up your homeless, making sure your streets are

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safe at night, safe during the day.

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That the borders that are in your cities, that the city

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borders that are not federal borders, that those are being

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kept safe, that you're you're controlling migrant populations,

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that you're doing all the things that you need to do to keep your

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city safe. Sacramento is wholly responsible

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for that. They are supposed to fund it so

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that the cities can operate in the same fashion that Sacramento

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lays out, number one. Number two, they are responsible

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for economic development. Economic development is bringing

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money into the state any way you can.

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The Lieutenant governor's job almost exclusively.

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Who, by the way, is Eleni Kunalakis, who has brought no

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business into our state in seven years.

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That is her job, economic development.

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She has to be supported by the governor's office for the

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federal side while she works with the state to bring economic

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development into the state. Why?

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So that you have enough money going into your general fund to

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pay your bills. We have not done that.

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We have driven business out of the state.

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You know, all of the sayings like Gavin Newsom is the

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greatest economic development governor for other states or

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U-Haul. We are the greatest, you know,

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U-Haul advertiser. We have taken the general fund

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from three $110 billion down to 265 billion.

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And I'll get into mansion tax in a minute because a lot of people

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have like a lot to say about it, but so do I.

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But that loss of money, that loss of nearly 35 to $45 billion

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annually, OK, is incredible because it's just from bad

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business decisions that money walked.

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So that's the second thing that Sacramento is responsible for

00:17:33
and has completely failed at. The third thing that Sacramento

00:17:36
is supposed to do is have a relationship with the DC office

00:17:41
and the federal money and Donald Trump so that when we get in a

00:17:44
predicament like that, fires that we are not left hung out to

00:17:47
dry, OK? We are left hung out to dry.

00:17:51
Moreover, his priority was making knee pads to go to Davos.

00:17:54
This is not a business strategy. So that's my my position as

00:18:00
governor. So those are the three primary

00:18:01
tent holes. The rest of the power needs to

00:18:03
go back to all the cities. Also, they have not corrected a

00:18:08
lot of things that would help cities.

00:18:10
Like there's this thing called Bradley Burns tax.

00:18:14
This is just something dumb and soul fixable.

00:18:17
So Bradley Burns tax is origin tax.

00:18:20
So let's say you want to buy a lawn mower and mow your lawn

00:18:24
tomorrow. You go to Home Depot and you're

00:18:26
going to buy a lawn mower. It's $179 and you decide, oh,

00:18:29
I'm going to get it. I'm here in Home Depot.

00:18:32
I'm already there. And your phone pings you.

00:18:34
It's Amazon Prime. It's $159 on Amazon Prime and

00:18:38
it'll be delivered tomorrow morning when you were planning

00:18:40
on mowing your lawn. Chances are you buy an extension

00:18:42
cord and, I don't know, some batteries, and you leave Home

00:18:45
Depot in the morning. Your lawnmower arrives, you fire

00:18:47
that thing up, you mow your lawn, and you don't think any

00:18:50
more about it. But what really happened is Home

00:18:53
Depot lost the sale, your town lost the sales tax, Amazon drove

00:18:58
all over your roads and left their big cardboard box there,

00:19:01
and you mowed your lawn. Bradley Burns Tax is the tax

00:19:04
that returns 1% of all sales in California back to their origin.

00:19:12
So that is where your 1 to 1.75% tax comes back into your town.

00:19:18
You know it does. It fixes your potholes, it does

00:19:20
your Christmas lights program. It cleans up your streets.

00:19:23
That's what that money is for. It's for your community.

00:19:25
That's why you have sales tax come back.

00:19:27
Bradley Burns Guess what? California is keeping it on

00:19:32
online sales, 100% of it. And so now towns that lose all

00:19:38
of their sales to online don't get their Bradley Burns tax.

00:19:41
And the worst part is if you try to figure out how much it is and

00:19:45
what the metric is, it lies to you.

00:19:48
Nobody really wants you to know this.

00:19:49
So I ask everyone that's listening the question, how much

00:19:53
do you consume online versus going into a store?

00:19:57
Because most people have told me it's over 50%.

00:20:00
Some people say it's 8090%. Sacramento will tell you that

00:20:05
it's only 28%, which is metrically impossible.

00:20:10
So now you're taking away somewhere in the neighborhood of

00:20:15
20 million, $40 million a year from towns for programs

00:20:20
for their towns. And when it came up in 2019,

00:20:25
Gavin Newsom vetoed it because he said it was too much trouble

00:20:27
for Amazon, never mind that they're delivering to those

00:20:31
towns already. So for me, Bradley Burns is

00:20:34
crucial. It's a crucial tax.

00:20:36
Also, there's another thing called tort tax, which most

00:20:40
people don't know about. Tort tax is a hidden tax that's

00:20:43
in your insurance premiums. It comes from trial attorneys

00:20:48
who sue so much and get so many people to join lawsuits.

00:20:53
In California, that cost every single household an additional

00:20:57
$3000 a year on insurance and in expensive neighborhoods it's up

00:21:02
to 9000. So Beverly Hills, Brentwood,

00:21:04
Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Irvine, Manhattan Beach, San

00:21:08
Diego, La Jolla, all those places, 9000 a year, you pay

00:21:12
extra in insurance premiums on tort tax.

00:21:15
And this is from trial attorneys that don't want to have trial

00:21:19
reform or tort reform, which we need in California.

00:21:23
My first day in office, I would do it, which is one of the

00:21:26
primary reasons I cannot get any help from trial attorneys

00:21:30
because that to them is the worst thing possible.

00:21:33
So let me tell you how important it is. 50% of the four million

00:21:37
businesses that are in California are in litigation.

00:21:39
Statistically, if you open a business in California, you

00:21:42
stand a 90% chance of litigation.

00:21:44
And these litigation claims are things like trip and fall and

00:21:47
racist racial discrimination and DEI stuff.

00:21:50
They're not because you did something wrong so terrible to

00:21:54
somebody, but rather a bucket of industrial law warfare has taken

00:21:58
up all of our economic development space and it's gone

00:22:02
unchecked because trial attorneys are very powerful and

00:22:06
they fund Democrats. Trial attorneys are very

00:22:08
powerful and they fund Republicans, but they don't fund

00:22:12
NPP baby. And you want to get rid of them,

00:22:15
You have to really make an effort.

00:22:18
Well, there is that I think there's a proposition or

00:22:20
something coming down where they're trying to put a cap on

00:22:23
Uber accidents and that's something that obviously the

00:22:25
trial attorneys are pushing back on.

00:22:28
I'm an attorney myself. I'm not a trial attorney, so it

00:22:30
doesn't hurt me. There was a question by a

00:22:35
skeptic and out you said let let you have it like all the hard

00:22:39
questions. So I want to let me see if I can

00:22:42
pull this up. Someone said, and this is just

00:22:46
their phrasing, they said, so her big plan is to bankrupt

00:22:50
cities. I explain that a little bit more

00:22:53
because I think, again, if you're reaching the skeptics,

00:22:57
they may hear that and just go, I'm out, I don't get it, but

00:23:00
explain that. And then somebody else, I don't

00:23:03
want to miss this, had a question about immigration and

00:23:06
sanctuary state policies. OK, so first of all, let's do

00:23:12
the bankrupt cities. Wow there for whoever asked that

00:23:20
question and this is for everybody to understand.

00:23:24
California's business plan currently is as follows. 40

00:23:28
million people in California per the censuses records.

00:23:34
Historically they they're estimating it's around

00:23:36
40 and a half million people pay taxes ready 17 and a

00:23:41
half million. So much less than half pay

00:23:44
taxes. Of the 17 and a half million,

00:23:50
$122 billion that comes out of the general fund or into the

00:23:56
general fund each year comes from 200 guys.

00:24:01
Now I told you earlier in the podcast, it's $265 billion going

00:24:06
into the general fund. So let me be very clear, $122

00:24:13
billion a year is going bye bye over mansion tax, OK, It's

00:24:18
vacating. This morning's Hoover report

00:24:21
says 30% has left. My calculations is it's close.

00:24:25
Just coming up on 47%. I'm calculating everybody that's

00:24:29
leaving that would be $88 billion if it gets to 50

00:24:34
eventually 122 billion. These are the billionaires that

00:24:37
are leaving in light of the idea that there's going to be some

00:24:41
sort of government official going through their underwear

00:24:43
drawer. Now, people have criticized me

00:24:47
because I'm absolutely against billionaires tax.

00:24:49
Why am I against it? What's a stupid business plan

00:24:52
#147% of our general fund comes from one group of guys, 1

00:24:58
customer, the billionaire class. Imagine taking your business

00:25:01
plan into the open market and saying hi Bank of America, I'd

00:25:05
like to borrow whatever to start up my business and 47% of my

00:25:09
revenue comes from 1 customer that I have pissed off and they

00:25:12
are leaving. So to be clear, we're already

00:25:16
broke with 265 billion. When I get into office, I will

00:25:20
be $122 billion in the arrears on top of that.

00:25:25
So there won't be enough money to go around for all these

00:25:28
cities to keep funding things that they are funding, like $24

00:25:32
billion a year in homelessness. And the best possible, least

00:25:37
drastic, most harmless, fastest and swiftest way is actually

00:25:42
reorganization city by city, starting with the biggest cities

00:25:47
that are in the worst trouble and suffering the most.

00:25:50
Los Angeles being my example of Chapter 9.

00:25:52
Chapter 9 is a reorganization of your spending, which is

00:25:57
important if you, the mayor, Karen Bass, are spending all the

00:26:02
money that comes in or Sacramento's money that's

00:26:04
supposed to be coming to you is going to middle men.

00:26:06
And you can't do anything about it when you know darn well you

00:26:09
don't have enough money to pay your firefighters, OK, clearly,

00:26:13
because they didn't show up in the Palisades.

00:26:15
So the problem is this. A city like LA has 12 safety

00:26:21
officers, OK, 12. That includes fire police and

00:26:25
EMT. And you have 4 million people in

00:26:28
LA. So when you call 911, you have a

00:26:32
one in 33 percent, 3300% chance. That's how many people are 3300

00:26:38
people under one safety officer coming to your rescue.

00:26:41
And normally, by the way, they come in a set of two because

00:26:44
they don't like to travel alone. So it's usually 2 cops or two

00:26:47
firemen or three firemen. So just multiply that because

00:26:51
there are 3300 people in LA per safety officer.

00:26:55
Now if you go to Sunnyvale, it's only 300.

00:26:59
Why? Because it's better run,

00:27:00
smaller, more money and less Ng OS and less stealing because

00:27:04
it's not so big. So anybody that questions what a

00:27:08
bankruptcy in Chapter 9 could do for a city like LA, it would be

00:27:13
a miracle worker. And I'm believing Herb Morgan

00:27:16
would be right on it because people like that understand that

00:27:19
finance is absolute finance, finite science.

00:27:25
It's a science. It's math.

00:27:26
If there's not enough money to pay the bills, don't write the

00:27:29
check. Next was your other question,

00:27:32
which weirdly goes right into this question, Immigration,

00:27:35
sanctuary cities and unfunded mandates.

00:27:40
OK. Our whole state is made-up of

00:27:43
this thing called unfunded mandates, which people don't

00:27:46
really understand how terrible this is, and the opposite is

00:27:51
completely true of what people think.

00:27:54
It is not the onus of the city to pay for an unfunded mandate.

00:27:59
The simple fact is the state is broke and they don't have the

00:28:02
funding for the mandate. So they don't have the funding.

00:28:05
It's unfunded by Sacramento. In fact, they have a program in

00:28:10
place to pay back the unfunded mandates to the city, but they

00:28:13
never do it. It's a 15 year waiting list.

00:28:16
It's almost $2 billion and you're not getting your money if

00:28:19
you're a city and you have a mandate that you fulfilled

00:28:22
because it was mandated and the promise was you were going to

00:28:25
get paid. And not only that, you as a city

00:28:28
cannot charge interest to Sacramento on the 15 year wait.

00:28:32
Also there's like 7 guys that they pay $100 a day that decide

00:28:34
who's who gets the money back. It's the biggest sham there is.

00:28:38
And sanctuary cities are an unfunded mandate.

00:28:41
So you're mandating cities to harbor people, which Swalwell

00:28:47
called for, and I'm quoting him now, to hide illegal immigrants

00:28:51
from ICE, which is calling on California citizens to break the

00:28:56
law on a mandate that was put upon them.

00:29:00
And it is unfunded, funded, and they don't have the money to

00:29:03
actually harbor those people. So we can't operate like this.

00:29:08
It's like, all I'm saying is we can't operate like this.

00:29:09
And if you don't believe me, Fact Check me.

00:29:11
You know who's on here? Camille, She's an incredible

00:29:14
fact checker. She can Fact Check every single

00:29:15
thing. These are really hardcore issues

00:29:18
that nobody wants to tell the truth about.

00:29:20
No, Swalwell says, oh, definitely go in there and get,

00:29:23
you know, harbor those criminals and take them away, hide them

00:29:26
from ICE. What are It's not only illegal,

00:29:30
you're asking American citizens and California residents and

00:29:34
citizens to break the law, and he's running for governor.

00:29:40
Yeah, it's it's kind of like it's more important to them for

00:29:45
virtue signaling rather than the reality of the situation, which

00:29:49
is you can't afford it. It doesn't make sense.

00:29:52
You're asking people to break the law.

00:29:53
I, I do like the LAPD chief who every time some radical City

00:30:00
Council member demands that he start informing immigrants or

00:30:05
the city. But anyway, I was saying how a

00:30:09
lot of the cities now it, it's almost like they're virtue

00:30:11
signalling or this is just a California policy of the virtue

00:30:14
signal without thinking about the adult reality of like, we

00:30:19
can't go, you can't pay for it or you're asking people to break

00:30:23
the law. And I was saying about the LAPD

00:30:26
chief who keeps getting grilled by City Council members, leftist

00:30:30
City Council members who were saying, will you vow or promise

00:30:34
that you're going to let us know when Ice is in the area so we

00:30:38
can start alerting people to hide from ice?

00:30:41
And his dry answer is, you want me to, as the LAPD chief, alert

00:30:48
you to break the law Like that's you're asking me as an L, It's

00:30:54
he's one of the few adults in LA at this point.

00:30:56
But it does seem like it's just this.

00:31:00
It's more important. To virtue signal what, whether

00:31:03
you can pay for it or whether it makes any sense.

00:31:07
And I think that's what frustrates so many people is

00:31:09
that it's, it's just like just enough with the the goofiness,

00:31:13
enough with the stupidity, enough with the virtue

00:31:15
signalling. Like we have to be adults and we

00:31:18
have to look at what we can spend and what we can do.

00:31:21
And the reality is politicians in California are just, they're

00:31:24
selling you a bill of goods they can't do, they can't follow

00:31:28
through on. And it, I think that's what

00:31:30
frustrates so many people. So that was my point was that

00:31:33
the, the virtue signalling overtakes common sense and

00:31:37
reality here in California. And that's really the

00:31:39
frustrating thing is when it it falls back and it hurts people

00:31:44
in cities and across the state, right?

00:31:47
I also think that it it, I'm not sure, you know, where people get

00:31:55
the information that they truly believe in, where they form

00:31:57
their opinions. Like, is it something that, you

00:32:00
know, you formed when you were in college?

00:32:02
And so like the college, if you went to a liberal college, then

00:32:06
you have like this idea that, you know, we're going to accept

00:32:09
everybody even when they're not accepting of you.

00:32:11
Like when do you recognize that someone's not actually accepting

00:32:14
of you and who you are, but we're you're still going to

00:32:16
accept them no matter what and what they're doing.

00:32:18
Like the harmony, the harmony is exactly like, it's a back and

00:32:22
forth. It's never flow.

00:32:23
There's always going to be compromised.

00:32:25
And what I find about, you know, these insane empathy plays that

00:32:31
are, you know, not functional like they, it's the idea that,

00:32:36
for example, you're being humane by letting people sleep on the

00:32:38
street, you know, that are hunched over on fentanyl and

00:32:41
you're just going to step over them when you go into a store

00:32:44
because you don't want to move them and, and, and they're like

00:32:46
laying in their own feces. And that's somehow being, you

00:32:50
know, empathetic. OK, we've lost the plot if

00:32:54
that's what we think is empathetic.

00:32:55
It's not empathetic, but it's very you just have to sometimes

00:32:59
just do things. You just have to lead by example

00:33:02
because talking isn't solving the problem.

00:33:05
For example, if I was the governor and I cleaned up

00:33:07
homelessness, no matter how I got there, people would say, oh,

00:33:10
my God, she was like, she did it.

00:33:12
How? I don't know how she did it.

00:33:14
People don't want to know how you're going to do it.

00:33:15
People don't want to know that you need 3 lines.

00:33:17
You know you need a line for completely crazy.

00:33:19
You need a line for people that have drug and alcohol problems

00:33:22
and you need a line for people that are just down and out on

00:33:24
their luck and basically need a bath and a job application.

00:33:27
You know, it's just people don't understand that if you're out of

00:33:30
your mind, you're always going to be out of your mind.

00:33:31
But get a get a hospital bed, get them in a hospital bed,

00:33:34
medicate them and do whatever you need to do.

00:33:35
Call their next to Ken and if they don't have it

00:33:37
institutionalized them. But it is not the responsibility

00:33:40
of every Californian when we have no money to feed our own

00:33:43
kids or to get get our own kids into college or pay our property

00:33:46
taxes or get our roads fixed or anything.

00:33:49
It's like the whole theory of the airlines, Every one of you

00:33:53
has flown like we get on a plane.

00:33:55
They're like, put the oxygen mask on yourself first before

00:33:59
you assist others, because if you're dead, you're no good to

00:34:02
anyone else. And it's just we, this idea that

00:34:05
we can take care of everybody at our own demise, where we have no

00:34:10
money left and we have no willpower to do it.

00:34:14
We're completely and totally deflated from the oligarchy of

00:34:19
the Democratic Party and the funding behind it, the machine

00:34:23
behind it, how they try to drown out anybody with a voice that

00:34:27
descends them. I really feel like you just have

00:34:31
to have hard conversations with people and you have to have

00:34:33
comments. I'm a mom like I would never let

00:34:35
my kids. It's like my line is would I let

00:34:37
my kid do that? No, I would not.

00:34:39
You know, that's my line. Just no.

00:34:42
It's just a straight no for me. And you are not going to harbor

00:34:44
criminals. I'm sorry.

00:34:46
I'm not going to like put people at risk.

00:34:48
And moreover, if Sacramento cannot pay for it is not man,

00:34:52
you don't mandate it. It's ridiculous.

00:34:55
So I'm against unfunded mandates.

00:34:58
And as governor, there will be not be man.

00:35:00
There's no mandating unless you have the money to pay for it and

00:35:03
it is a state emergency and it is agreed on.

00:35:06
But first of all, another thing that people don't understand

00:35:09
about unfunded mandates is that mayors and City Council don't

00:35:12
have any choice. So they get the unfunded

00:35:15
mandate. I, I did this interview with the

00:35:17
mayor of Burbank, who by the way is amazing, a Democrat, very

00:35:20
strong Democrat too. Had a ribbon cutting for the

00:35:23
studios that they were opening. OK, never mind.

00:35:26
Like in the backyard, SB-79 is putting in high density housing

00:35:30
in single family residential neighborhoods.

00:35:32
And she's freaking out about it because her Burbank residents

00:35:35
don't want that. And she's like, we, you know,

00:35:37
we're it's just a pissing match between the mayor and the City

00:35:41
Council and all the residents that voted them in and trusted

00:35:44
them. And mayors across California,

00:35:47
you know, are the with the small towns is who they go to and

00:35:50
they're like mayor so and so like, what's going on?

00:35:52
Why are they building an apartment, you know, in my in my

00:35:54
yard? And it's not their choice.

00:35:57
And so we have to stop Sacramento from passing like

00:36:01
literally probably the worst five bills in American history.

00:36:04
We're all passed in California in the last five years.

00:36:07
I mean, ask a Democrat. Go out.

00:36:09
Ask your best Democrat, biggest Democrat friend.

00:36:11
Say to your biggest and best Democrat friend, do you think

00:36:15
it's OK for kids in school to be in a situation where they might

00:36:21
want to change their gender and, and they're wearing lipstick and

00:36:25
they changed their name and whatever.

00:36:27
And there is a rule or a law that says that the school does

00:36:31
not have to tell the parent. Just ask any Democrat.

00:36:35
And if you find me a yes, bring that person to me.

00:36:40
Yeah, well, that law thankfully got blocked by the Supreme Court

00:36:44
this week. So.

00:36:45
But it is a crazy law that it it did bring up a lot of parental

00:36:49
issues and parental rights issues.

00:36:50
And I think that was something that was a sticking point for a

00:36:52
lot of people in California was parents who had gone along with

00:36:56
this virtue signaling for a while.

00:36:58
All of a sudden it got to the point where, oh wait, now the

00:37:01
schools are going to Co parent with me on what my kids and

00:37:07
they're going to hide stuff from like what what I should know

00:37:10
about my kid. I think that was a big line in

00:37:12
the sand. Two comments I want to bring up

00:37:14
from the chat. Someone did say this is

00:37:17
fascinating, I've never heard a lot of this and F Swalwell and

00:37:22
then someone asked, we can broaden this question.

00:37:26
How would you handle L as housing?

00:37:28
You can talk about California housing in general.

00:37:31
They also ask, can you say hi to their cat Dawn?

00:37:34
Hi to your cat Dawn. Yeah, that's what they ask.

00:37:37
Can you say hi to their cat Dawn?

00:37:39
I'm wondering if I'm being punked.

00:37:40
Hi Cat Dawn. I'm just wondering what it says

00:37:42
when you say it fast. Is that like, is that like a

00:37:44
Bart Simpson joke? But I'm OK.

00:37:49
With that, like it, you know, I want people to, you know, the

00:37:52
best, the best position in the world is to be underestimated.

00:37:55
Hence the blonde hair. So OK, California housing, which

00:38:00
is actually my bucket. Like I probably know less about

00:38:03
Chapter 9 than I do about housing.

00:38:05
I know a lot about housing. I've been a builder for a long

00:38:07
time and I want to tell everybody in the entire state

00:38:14
that SB-79 is a land grab. It's nothing short of a land

00:38:18
grab. SB-79 is the high density

00:38:21
housing bill and the idea was and it was presented in early

00:38:26
25. It was passed in July of 25.

00:38:30
Is this Scott Weiner? Yes, here's how it was sold.

00:38:34
OK, Scott Weiner has so many bad bills.

00:38:36
This is how it was sold. Hi, Democrats.

00:38:40
We were thinking, wouldn't it be great if we could put some high

00:38:42
density housing around, you know, the airport and the train

00:38:46
stations and the big bus terminals.

00:38:48
It's kind of like a, a transit district area, you know, some of

00:38:52
those big warehouses. And what could happen then is it

00:38:55
would be easier for people to get on and off of their, you

00:38:58
know, transportation for work. And wouldn't that be great?

00:39:01
And Democrats said, well, that's a good idea.

00:39:04
They'll clean up the bus area. It'll clean up the airport area

00:39:07
to clean up the train station area.

00:39:09
And it passed, of course, because that's how bills are

00:39:12
sold in California. So then the fires came and that

00:39:18
was like 6 months later and they're busy out there,

00:39:21
Sacramento's busy out there putting SB-79 all around where

00:39:24
transit districts are going at unfunded mandates.

00:39:28
OK, going to the city and saying, hey, right here next to

00:39:31
your train station, we'd like you to put, you know, these high

00:39:35
rise apartment buildings in. And if you don't do it by a

00:39:38
certain date and make it happen, we'll send someone to do it for

00:39:41
you, OK? That's how they do it.

00:39:44
On October the 8th of 2025, Coastal Commission held a quiet

00:39:51
meeting with Wolfgang Puck and Frank Gehry's development group

00:39:55
for Sunset and PCH. The development group that had

00:39:59
been working to build a Wolfgang Puck restaurant complex with

00:40:04
shops and all kinds of stuff at Sunset and PCH with Frank

00:40:08
Gehry's design, who's recently passed away.

00:40:11
But was it's all Frank Gehry and it's beautiful and it was

00:40:14
floated all around the Palisades.

00:40:16
As this new development and people finally said yes to this

00:40:20
after many years of planning, great parking, ocean views

00:40:25
tremendous. And on October the 8th of 2025,

00:40:30
in a quiet meeting, because the mailers went to all the burned

00:40:33
out houses, they passed their development with a small change.

00:40:40
They added a transit district and I would say a blanking

00:40:45
transit district, but I won't do that on your podcast.

00:40:48
They took away 244 parking spaces and said we really love

00:40:52
your design, but we're going to put a giant bus terminal here so

00:40:56
we can implement SB-79 in the burned neighborhood of the

00:40:59
Pacific Palisades at Sunset PCH. So as Sacramento does, they

00:41:05
ripped the rug on the whole concept.

00:41:07
And now what they're doing is if they want to put developments in

00:41:11
certain areas that they're big funding developers want, they

00:41:14
identify them and figure out a way to get a transit district in

00:41:18
backwards so that they can convert your single family

00:41:21
residential housing into high density housing, which is

00:41:27
bullshit. And not only that, it's a lie.

00:41:30
And it is ripping the rug and it is baiting and switching.

00:41:34
It is everything that you could possibly imagine because it's an

00:41:37
unfunded mandate. So they get to jump the Rubicon.

00:41:40
They don't have to go through all the city hearings.

00:41:42
They go around City Council. It has to be stopped.

00:41:46
And that was not the spirit in which it was developed, but it

00:41:50
is the spirit in which it is being implemented.

00:41:53
It is a land grab and everyone should fight it and everyone

00:41:56
should be against it. In fact, I'm not sure it's

00:41:59
constitutional to convert R1 zoning to multifamily.

00:42:04
Because if you own your property and your real property, I'm

00:42:08
quite sure if the trial attorneys of California would

00:42:11
get it together and start looking at the slander of title

00:42:15
and other ways they might figure out that one of our

00:42:17
constitutional rights is the right to own property.

00:42:21
And the only pedigree and title to your property is your deed in

00:42:24
your zoning. OK.

00:42:26
And so if you take the deed and the zoning away, it's like

00:42:29
taking the Corvette logo or the Bentley logo or the Rolls Royce

00:42:34
logo off of the car and just slapping whatever you want to

00:42:37
slap on there. How about an apartment right

00:42:40
next to you? How about it?

00:42:42
And it's that's what they're doing with SB-79.

00:42:45
This is the unfunded mandate situation.

00:42:47
And for housing, we don't need it.

00:42:50
It's nonsense. We don't need it.

00:42:53
We need low income housing, but we don't need it on the beach.

00:42:56
We need low income housing. And all of these developments

00:42:59
that these people in cities across California have spent so

00:43:04
much time entitling and trying to get built and they get stuck.

00:43:08
They get stuck by EPA, Sequa, Coastal Commission, you name it.

00:43:11
If you'd let them build and get them through the process, we

00:43:14
would never have a housing shortage case.

00:43:16
The point would be Chula Vista. Chula Vista has one of the best.

00:43:20
I mean, it's amazing what they've done down there and

00:43:22
they're always developing and building homes.

00:43:24
But because of the pollution down there and EPA, they've been

00:43:27
stopped. And it's, it's an impossible

00:43:29
situation if you have so much red tape that you can't build,

00:43:32
you can't build anything in California without spending 30

00:43:35
to 40% of the money that you have allocated to build on the

00:43:39
red tape and the time waiting in the interest while you wait.

00:43:42
So you have to eliminate that before you have any real

00:43:44
building plan. And I don't see anybody that's

00:43:47
put that into place. I, I've said on this program so

00:43:52
many times that the one thing government has to do when it

00:43:55
comes to housing is get the hell out of the way.

00:43:57
And it I, I repeat it ad nauseam because you have all these

00:44:01
politicians who try and come up with these crafty ways to

00:44:06
incentivize or go to housing or build affordable housing here,

00:44:11
build high density housing along transit.

00:44:14
In, in reality, that's not what Californians want.

00:44:17
When people say like we want affordable housing, they're not

00:44:20
talking about, oh, I want AI want a one bedroom apartment

00:44:24
above the subway or the train or the bus station.

00:44:28
I think people in California are thinking, I want the American

00:44:32
dream of I want the white picket fence.

00:44:35
I want a house with a backyard where I can raise my family in a

00:44:38
nice suburb or something like that.

00:44:40
That's what I think people want when they say we want affordable

00:44:44
housing. And it it's just California

00:44:47
can't accept the fact that they've bungled up and ruined

00:44:51
the housing industry with all these regulations, with Sequa

00:44:55
and all these zoning issues for so many decades.

00:44:58
And the one thing politicians never do is they never want to

00:45:01
admit that they're wrong. So they never want to go back

00:45:03
and say, hey, guys, we were wrong.

00:45:04
This was a bad policy. Let's go back and fix this.

00:45:08
So they start to like chip at the edges.

00:45:10
It's like they kind of like they create an exemption here for

00:45:13
sequel or they create an exemption here for this zone.

00:45:16
And then at the end of the day, it it's just like just scrap the

00:45:18
whole thing. Just start over.

00:45:19
It's OK, you can start over. You don't have to hold on to

00:45:22
sequel like it's the Holy Grail or something like you can, you

00:45:26
can scrap it and start all over at you can scrap it and just not

00:45:29
do anything. You don't have to do anything.

00:45:32
I, I just, I'm always flabbergasted that especially

00:45:36
with Democrats, it's not surprising with Democrats that

00:45:39
they always think that government has to be the

00:45:41
solution as opposed to maybe government's the whole problem

00:45:45
here. And we just need to get the hell

00:45:46
out of the way and let people build housing, Let people build

00:45:50
those single family homes because that's what people in

00:45:52
California want, Like they want those single family homes.

00:45:56
Well, they never think about like if you build it, they will

00:45:59
come. OK, so let's say they build the

00:46:00
high destiny housing. They fill it up with people and

00:46:03
children, but they don't have, we still, you know, haven't

00:46:06
built any water infrastructure even though we've had the funds

00:46:10
and it was passed like what, 1215 years ago or something

00:46:13
where we, we passed laws for that.

00:46:15
So we're not holding the water. And then we're constantly like,

00:46:18
oh, we fill up with water, but then we're in a drought 6 months

00:46:20
later because the state did nothing to save your water.

00:46:23
And they schools are failing and they don't even have the space

00:46:26
to build another school. It sounds like a bunch of

00:46:29
teachers are starting to kind of check out of the system.

00:46:32
And I've like been hearing reports of they're possibly

00:46:34
leaving. And so we don't even have the

00:46:36
school to, you know, educate the kids that are going to come live

00:46:40
in these high density housing places.

00:46:42
And again, like the water and then the roads and then they're

00:46:47
not repairing the roads and then they don't have parking for the

00:46:49
cars. And so that's why they're trying

00:46:51
to push us into public transit. Nobody wants to use public

00:46:53
transit because it's dirty and it's not safe.

00:46:56
And then they keep want to throw the funds at that.

00:46:57
And it's just like this whole domino effect of their really

00:47:00
bad decisions that they never, ever think past the one thing.

00:47:04
It's very frustrating. Again, earlier when we started

00:47:08
the conversation, we talked about Mayors Matter and how I've

00:47:11
gone to many, many cities across California, including Yorba

00:47:15
Linda. And there are lots of cities

00:47:18
that have really good urban planning.

00:47:21
And as long as they're not these unfunded mandates that upset

00:47:25
their urban planning, they're actually really well planned.

00:47:27
And some of them are 30 year plans, like, you know, Chula

00:47:29
Vista is a 30 year plan. And so if you take a 30 year

00:47:33
plan, you've planned structurally for the right

00:47:35
amount of water, drainage, utilities, sewage ingress,

00:47:39
egress, fire department, firemen, fire, fire hydrants,

00:47:44
fire department turnarounds and the right amount of schools, the

00:47:49
right amount of parking. So that's a really good, really

00:47:52
good urban planner will like lay out a city.

00:47:55
And then if you create another group of houses that you create

00:47:59
another scenario for that what happens with something like SP79

00:48:03
is you come in and you sort of upset the apple cart.

00:48:05
You're like, OK, we're going to add like 500 residents to your,

00:48:09
you know, 1500 residential plan. So we're going to increase it

00:48:13
by, you know, 20 foot percent or 25% that without increasing any

00:48:18
of the utility for that and without any increase for schools

00:48:21
or fire or whatever. And that's what happened in LA

00:48:23
And that's why you have the situation where you don't have

00:48:26
nearly enough safety officers or you have really bad streets.

00:48:28
I mean, look at our roads. It's the Pacific Palisades.

00:48:31
To be clear, you need a four wheel drive vehicle to drive

00:48:34
around. So it's not like you just have

00:48:36
to put the houses back. There's literally the roads are

00:48:39
are so bad. You can't drive anything up here

00:48:41
unless you're fully prepared to lose a tire.

00:48:44
I, the, the way that you fix that right is you, first of all,

00:48:52
you can't do anything without money.

00:48:55
Like let's be realistic. Nothing happens without money.

00:48:59
And so going back to the beginning, if we lose 122

00:49:03
billion in the, in the general fund, which is clearly happening

00:49:07
and we're not going to do anything to stop it because

00:49:09
Steiger and, and, and swallow and all those guys are like, tax

00:49:13
the billionaires. I don't know.

00:49:14
I don't know how they're employed.

00:49:16
I mean, most of those guys have paid their way, so I'm surprised

00:49:18
they're not still employed, but whatever.

00:49:20
It doesn't. We need to create something

00:49:23
different. We need a Better Business plan.

00:49:24
My idea is really solid. I have this inkling that

00:49:30
Californians want to do a lot more than they're given the

00:49:36
opportunity to do. I feel like Californians want to

00:49:39
work. I feel like Californians want to

00:49:41
have businesses. I feel like they want to own

00:49:44
homes and I feel like they want to have their power taken back.

00:49:48
And so I've been racking my brain on what would work for me.

00:49:54
So what is interesting is a several years ago, I was on a

00:49:58
job site of my own job set, but there was a guy there and he was

00:50:00
talking to my pool contractor and he owned or he worked at a

00:50:04
credit union. And he said to me, oh, are you

00:50:08
running the job? And I said, yes, he goes, I'm

00:50:09
looking for my pool contractor. I'm so and so from such and such

00:50:12
a bank, Premier America. It's a credit union.

00:50:15
He went over and he talked to the pool guy and he came back

00:50:17
and he gave me his card and he said, if you want to have, you

00:50:19
know, payroll or you want, if you need any banking needs,

00:50:21
please call me. And I have a big Bank of

00:50:24
America, Wells Fargo. I'm like, you know, private

00:50:27
banking, like living the life of Riley, big contractor.

00:50:31
And I'm like, I have a bank at a credit union.

00:50:34
Anyway. During COVID, Wells Fargo was

00:50:40
making my payroll guys stand out outside in the line.

00:50:43
And then after COVID, they still made them stand out in the line.

00:50:47
They didn't like them cashing checks in Brentwood.

00:50:51
And I got so pissed off, I drove over to Premier America and I

00:50:55
opened up a construction bank account at Premier America and I

00:50:59
decided I would make it a credit union, which I'd never done.

00:51:02
In a credit union, you're a member, and members of credit

00:51:05
unions have power. And not many private credit

00:51:10
unions exist. Like the Police Department has a

00:51:12
credit union, the fire department has a credit union,

00:51:14
there's teachers credit unions, there's nursing credit unions,

00:51:17
But generally Californians don't have their own credit union.

00:51:21
So I was like, we should have this Great American credit

00:51:24
union, the great credit union, California's greatest credit

00:51:27
union. And we get the billionaires that

00:51:30
are leaving the state to fund it in partnership with SBA.

00:51:35
Because they figured out that if we had taken the $122 billion

00:51:39
that comes in from those billionaires and invested in

00:51:44
California the following way, let's say we gave 244

00:51:49
businesses $500 each as a startup, we would have employed

00:51:56
over 2 million people. And those jobs would still be

00:52:00
existing today, probably 15 years, and all that money would

00:52:05
still be coming in. And no one would be able to

00:52:08
break it up on a business plan because instead of having it be

00:52:13
200 guys, it would be 244 businesses and 2 million

00:52:18
employees. And the problem is we've lost

00:52:22
the idea that we need a business plan in California.

00:52:25
We just wing it. And so I will form this credit

00:52:29
union with all these guys that are leaving and the SBA.

00:52:33
I've already met with SBA wants to be here.

00:52:35
Remember, Donald Trump is running around all over the

00:52:38
world saying I'm the greatest businessman ever.

00:52:41
I've got $18 trillion coming into the United States.

00:52:44
Not one penny of it is coming to California.

00:52:47
Not one penny. We are out of the conversation.

00:52:50
So we have no money coming in federally because there's no

00:52:53
business deals that are happening in California.

00:52:55
So the 18 trillion that's coming, that's going to make

00:52:57
America great again and it's going to be oh, so great is not

00:53:00
coming here. So we have to think of something

00:53:02
quick. And I think that the Great

00:53:05
American Credit Union is going to be born whether I'm governor

00:53:09
or not, I'm going to work on it because California's need the

00:53:12
opportunity to be able to borrow money and have businesses.

00:53:15
And two things have to happen. You have to have SBA willing to

00:53:19
do it and you have to get rid of all the red tape so they can

00:53:21
open businesses and trial lawyers have to stop creating

00:53:24
lawsuits in every single business that's open so that

00:53:26
they can keep those businesses open.

00:53:29
By the way, I think Blue played Oyster closed up on Ocean Ave.

00:53:32
I don't know if you guys caught that story doing like 12 million

00:53:35
a year. She closed because she.

00:53:37
Was I did hear. That yeah, she's like, I just

00:53:39
can't deal with it anymore. I don't want to like, move

00:53:41
homeless people every morning and and fight lawsuits because

00:53:45
somebody didn't want to work on Friday when they were on the

00:53:47
schedule. And they said that the reason

00:53:48
that I made them work on Friday was because they were, you know,

00:53:51
they were a single mom or whatever.

00:53:54
I discriminated against them. You know, I just, if people

00:53:57
can't, it's just not fair. And so we have to toughen up

00:54:00
California. We got to toughen.

00:54:01
We got to tighten our belt. I mean, it's not a weight loss

00:54:04
program, but it will remind you, tighten your belt, grow some

00:54:07
grit, you know, get some gifts, get down and get back to work.

00:54:11
If California works its way out of this thing, we'll be so much

00:54:14
better off in the long run. I mean, we won't be, we won't be

00:54:17
owned by, we're owned right now. We're owned by all of the

00:54:21
Democratic lobby people that are paying for them to be in office.

00:54:26
They own us. They don't just own the

00:54:28
Democrats guys. They own you.

00:54:30
They own you If the trial lawyers are paying them, the

00:54:33
trial lawyers own you. And if they, if you're not sure

00:54:37
about that, go out and ask about the 50% of businesses being in

00:54:41
lawsuits. Get like real clear, real fast.

00:54:44
They own you. And the only way to do it is to

00:54:47
just not take the money to say like, you know what?

00:54:50
I'd rather starve, thank you very much, because that's where

00:54:52
I'm at. I'd rather starve than take this

00:54:55
money. It's just like it's dirty and it

00:54:58
takes our power away. We're, we come, we're serfs, you

00:55:03
know, we're just slaves to it all.

00:55:05
And the way to do it is just just say no to it.

00:55:07
Just say I'm not doing it. I'm a true Californian.

00:55:10
I don't, I'm not afraid of hard work as long as I can, you know,

00:55:13
go to the beach and walk my dog and and go to the farmers market

00:55:17
and figure I'll be fine, thank you very much.

00:55:19
I don't need your money and your your legal power and your thumb

00:55:23
on me. Yeah, someone asked.

00:55:28
Did you talk to Irvine Mayor Larry Agron and your mayor?

00:55:31
I did, I did. He taught me the greatest thing,

00:55:36
he said. Elaine, it's not like governing.

00:55:42
Governing is not like running a company.

00:55:45
It's very different. Half of it is corporate, like

00:55:49
you are running a company, but the other half, the governing of

00:55:52
people, it's like being a best friend and really listening and

00:55:56
really doing your best to keep as many people in agreement with

00:56:01
you as possible. He really taught me a lot and I

00:56:04
have it all on tape because I interviewed him.

00:56:08
So are you for or against the billionaires tax that they're

00:56:11
trying to get on the ballot? I, I'm against it because,

00:56:17
because it's, it's too big of a blow to our, it's too big of a

00:56:24
blow to our economic development and our, our, our general fund.

00:56:30
If they, if they leave, which they're going to do, we

00:56:32
seriously won't be able to keep the lights on.

00:56:34
OK. So it's not possible.

00:56:36
It's not sustainable. We'll have to borrow money

00:56:38
federally, which we don't. So whoever the new governor is,

00:56:40
is in big trouble. That's what I'm saying.

00:56:42
Like you need a real macro economics governor that can

00:56:46
really think their way out of this.

00:56:48
So I'm against it. But in the long run, this is a

00:56:51
reminder, it's a wake up call for everybody.

00:56:54
We're dependent on these guys because the because

00:56:58
unfortunately, Sacramento has let this happen like they've let

00:57:02
us slip into the mouth of the shark, right?

00:57:04
And to get out of it, it's not so easy as just pulling back.

00:57:09
You know, you might have to kill the shark and gut it and come

00:57:12
out the other other side. I have a feeling we're in that

00:57:15
we're that far into it. I don't think it's actually even

00:57:19
going to pass, but because it's retroactive, it there's, it's

00:57:24
for they're leaving anyway because billionaires are smart

00:57:27
people, right? Their investment strategies are

00:57:29
between 9 and 26%. When we invested our, when Gavin

00:57:33
Newsom invested our retirement fund, we lost $71.

00:57:36
Like there's no investment strategy in in the Great

00:57:40
American credit Union idea, right?

00:57:42
I would utilize the billionaire's tax base to invest

00:57:45
$100 billion in their investment strategies so that we could have

00:57:49
dividend paying stock for once. How about that?

00:57:51
I mean, most Californians don't even know what that means, but

00:57:54
it literally you could have dividend paying stock if you're

00:57:57
properly invested in infrastructure, but we're not.

00:58:00
I mean, ironically, California is not going to fall into the

00:58:03
ocean because of earthquakes. It's going to fall into the

00:58:05
ocean because of lack of care for the infrastructure.

00:58:08
Complete and utter neglect, planned obsolescence.

00:58:12
Let it fall in and we'll buy it all back for nothing.

00:58:15
So I see your question, what is it?

00:58:19
No, I was, I was just going to, you can finish your point

00:58:22
because I had another point that I wanted to kind of sum up or or

00:58:26
everything you're talking about. OK, so wait, I could go on for

00:58:31
hours, OK. No, my point was I, I agree with

00:58:37
you. I, I think Californians and for

00:58:40
some reason Newsom's running around now, he must be listening

00:58:43
to this podcast because I say this all the time, is that we,

00:58:47
we need to get out of this scarcity mindset in California

00:58:52
and go. We need to have an abundance

00:58:54
mindset. And an abundance mindset is we

00:58:56
need to get rid of government regulations.

00:58:58
We need to allow people to open businesses.

00:59:00
We need to allow the entrepreneurs to do what they

00:59:03
need to do to create jobs, to create economic activity, to

00:59:06
bring that revenue into the state, into local cities, into

00:59:10
counties. That's how you kind of, it's

00:59:13
that old adage of a rising tide lifts all boats.

00:59:17
And there's so much opportunity in California between, you know,

00:59:21
our university system and the amount of, you know, brain power

00:59:26
we have of smart people here. We have Silicon Valley.

00:59:29
We have enormous natural resources that for some reason

00:59:33
we just neglect because we're so, you know, so beholden to the

00:59:38
idea of bowing at the altar of the Church of Climate Change

00:59:42
that will import oil from the Bahamas in China and everywhere

00:59:45
else. Yet we we're sitting on billions

00:59:48
of, of barrels of oil here in California that we could create

00:59:52
a booming oil industry, great blue collar jobs.

00:59:55
We could be creating this industry that helps so many

00:59:58
people. It's just like we need to throw

01:00:01
off these shackles of, of over government regulation and create

01:00:06
more of an abundance and more opportunity.

01:00:09
That's what I've always been saying.

01:00:10
So when you say something like that, it resonates with me

01:00:13
because I go, yeah, we need to throw off these shackles.

01:00:16
Like we're serfs and they're our Lords and they're lording over

01:00:20
us. There's so much potential here

01:00:23
and and we just feels like it's so tamped down by everything

01:00:28
from Sacramento. Sacramento is has strip mined

01:00:32
the entire municipal system. I mean, it's mind boggling.

01:00:38
First of all, there are just five 550 employees in

01:00:42
California that worked directly for the state, 225 during

01:00:45
Sacramento and then another 225 for the rest of the state.

01:00:49
And there's mayors across our state that make $800 a month.

01:00:53
But Sacramento takes the lying share of the fees.

01:00:55
I mean, if I was governor, I would cut Sacramento in half

01:00:57
maybe maybe even more than in half.

01:01:01
It's just not necessary. It's very, very fat with APH and

01:01:06
not functioning it. It needs to be, there needs to

01:01:10
be more hands on communication between Sacramento and the

01:01:16
cities for what they need. Like I don't want to hear from

01:01:19
mayors when I talk to them that when the phone rings from

01:01:21
Sacramento, they're like afraid to answer.

01:01:22
They're just like, oh God, you know, this is shouldn't be

01:01:26
happening. It should be the mayor of

01:01:27
Stockton was like, the only reason people came is because

01:01:30
there was a shooting. Like, meanwhile, you know, I

01:01:32
don't have a deep water port where I could have the biggest

01:01:34
shipyard in the country, literally.

01:01:37
And we don't have water. You talk about water, There's a

01:01:40
guy by the name of Ed Ring who is a policy writer for water,

01:01:44
who has written some of the most magical water policy that could

01:01:47
all be implemented, including dredging the Stockton boat, you

01:01:50
know, deep water port. And these policy ideas are not

01:01:54
just implementable, they save California.

01:01:57
But there's too many people involved in the other side of

01:02:02
the coin, which is to not let the water flow flow freely.

01:02:07
And they are again, lobbyists and special interest nonprofit

01:02:12
and NGOs on the sides of the parties, funding the parties to

01:02:17
to maintain this power. And we have been deluded into

01:02:22
thinking that the Republicans and the Democrats are somehow

01:02:26
omniscient and going to solve all these problems when right

01:02:29
before our eyes they are failing.

01:02:32
And it's they can't get along. They've completely lost the

01:02:36
plot. And you need a revolution.

01:02:38
You honestly need a revolution. I call for a revolution.

01:02:41
I'll probably get in trouble for that.

01:02:42
But you just need like to get behind somebody with common

01:02:45
interests like that just says, I see a way out of this.

01:02:48
Let's just keep walking until we get there.

01:02:51
Like, don't get distracted. Do not get distracted by

01:02:54
transit. Transit children.

01:02:56
Do not do not get distracted by hiding immigrants.

01:02:59
These are small sections of a very, very big problem.

01:03:03
There's no money because there's nobody earning money, because

01:03:07
there's not enough jobs, because we've allowed two hundred guys

01:03:11
to pay half the money. Half, 5047%.

01:03:15
So California is going to have 17 and a half million taxpayers

01:03:21
that are going to be paying less than half of what we need into

01:03:25
the general fund. Less than half of what?

01:03:29
We need we got to make up for. We got.

01:03:31
To make up for it somewhere. We got to fill it, 2 million

01:03:33
jobs. My goal would be 2 million jobs

01:03:35
by the end of my term, 2 million jobs.

01:03:37
And I would start on the very first day and SBA is standing at

01:03:41
the door knocking and they have SBA LA, they have SBA San Diego,

01:03:45
they have and that's federal funding.

01:03:47
And all you need is a business plan.

01:03:50
And if you have a credit union and you have advisors that can

01:03:53
help you write a business plan, help you find a location, if you

01:03:56
have a real estate division, if you have like kind lending where

01:03:59
you can, you know, kind lending is a great aggregator of Fannie

01:04:02
Mae and and Freddie Mac loans. And you could get your first

01:04:05
time time homebuyers deal done and you have your bank

01:04:08
supporting you on your payment plan and your down payment.

01:04:11
I mean, think of all the things you could do if you just worked

01:04:14
as a unit instead of without agency, which is what we're

01:04:19
doing. We're operating like, oh God,

01:04:21
who's going to save us? Nobody, OK, Nobody on the

01:04:25
Democrats and nobody on the Republicans is going to come and

01:04:27
save you. Or you want oil and gas back,

01:04:30
You got to go find somebody that wants to do it.

01:04:32
You got to get rid of the red tape for them, and you got to

01:04:34
bring them in. Valero paid a billion dollars to

01:04:37
leave. Like we need to intersect that

01:04:40
now. Go to Valero, lobby them, gives

01:04:42
a billion dollars back, we'll get it approved.

01:04:45
We can't, we cannot rebuild a refinery.

01:04:47
Once they leave and they shut it down.

01:04:49
It's like moving the Titanic. If they empty the pipeline, it

01:04:52
breaks. They have to put a new one.

01:04:54
Why is fuel oil bubbling up a Newport Beach?

01:04:57
I mean, it's trying to get out and they won't do anything about

01:04:59
it. It's insane to me.

01:05:02
What are we afraid of? Oil.

01:05:03
Wasn't the Beverly Hillbillies about that?

01:05:05
Like oil Gold. That is black gold, Remember

01:05:09
that? Was it what the Beverly

01:05:10
Hillbillies was about? That's literally the premise of

01:05:13
the show, is that they moved to Beverly.

01:05:14
Yeah, they, they discovered you can look at old pictures of LA

01:05:18
and Hunting Beach and see the oil rigs like LA was made.

01:05:23
I know people in LA don't want to hear this.

01:05:24
All the people who go to, you know, no offense to anyone who

01:05:28
goes to Erawan and stuff like that, The people who think

01:05:30
they're big climate activists. LA was built on oil money.

01:05:35
You know, the Gettys, all of that.

01:05:36
Like that's what made LA all brought in all the money.

01:05:39
Hollywood, the glitz, the glamour, all that.

01:05:41
That was oil money. It was oil was everywhere in LA.

01:05:45
Go look it up. Just Google Los Angeles oil

01:05:48
wells, like historical photos. We are coming up on the hour.

01:05:53
And like you said, we could probably talk for a long, long

01:05:55
time, but she has to come. Back from Part 2 for sure.

01:05:58
You have to come back from Part 2, if that's OK with you.

01:06:03
Couple questions before we leave.

01:06:05
A couple of people are already asking where can they get

01:06:07
involved and volunteer for your campaign.

01:06:10
And I guess this can wrap up with sort of your closing

01:06:14
statement, where can people go find you, like support you and

01:06:18
all that stuff? So I recently changed my

01:06:22
Instagram from lipstick farmer. By the way, I'm a farmer to

01:06:28
Culotti CULOTTI, Culotti for governor.com and you can reach

01:06:34
me there and there's you can also go on to the website.

01:06:37
You can donate. Like I said, I don't care if

01:06:38
it's a dollar because it's all about engagement.

01:06:42
You can also DM me on on Instagram.

01:06:45
You can still find me on Lipstick farmer on Instagram,

01:06:47
but my followers are, are on Culotti for governor.

01:06:52
And yeah, I'm in. But most of the time I'm in the

01:06:55
Palisades. A lot of times I'm in San Diego

01:06:57
County. Anybody that wants to host a

01:06:59
party or town hall, I don't care if it's five people or 50 people

01:07:02
or 500 or 5000. I like to meet people and shake

01:07:05
hands and talk to people in the face so I can see what you need.

01:07:09
And I if I don't know it, I'll earn it.

01:07:12
I mean, you know, I'm, I'm pretty quick study, I'm really

01:07:16
kind of a problem solver and I'd love to have a huge coalition so

01:07:22
that everyone can, can be part of it.

01:07:24
And, and so you're not really voting for me at all.

01:07:26
It has nothing to do with me, but rather it's all about us and

01:07:28
California and 1 California uniting California.

01:07:32
California needs to get out from underneath these people.

01:07:34
They're killing us. It's like we're, we're, we're in

01:07:36
deep shit. We got it.

01:07:38
We got to move, we got to get, we got to get mobilized.

01:07:42
Yeah, that's for sure. We need to get people and across

01:07:46
spectrums. That's why I think you know it.

01:07:49
It's got to stop being the tribalistic whatever team red or

01:07:53
team blue, it's it's we've got to be adults and go what fixes

01:07:57
this state. That's the most important thing.

01:07:59
Let's stop pretending we it's all about the scorecard and

01:08:03
who's winning and is it red team or blue team or something like

01:08:05
that. So Elaine, it was amazing having

01:08:09
you on. I think we could probably have a

01:08:10
Part 2 and probably a part three with conversations.

01:08:13
And you're in San Diego County. So I think maybe we should

01:08:16
organize like an in person podcast.

01:08:18
I think that would be a lot of fun.

01:08:19
Oh my God, that'd be amazing. You could come to, you guys

01:08:21
could come to the ranch. It'd be fun if you could.

01:08:23
I have a huge farm and, you know, we farm raw vegetables and

01:08:26
we do CSA, about two or three thousand, I think, boxes a month

01:08:31
for the schools. And I'm, I'm in trouble in San

01:08:34
Diego. I have a violation because my

01:08:35
sign's too big and because we sometimes sell goat milk, I'm

01:08:39
always in trouble, which is crazy, right?

01:08:41
Yeah, goat. Yeah, well, we have we sell goat

01:08:44
milk. Yeah, we have goat sheep.

01:08:49
There's lots of lots of different like like not very

01:08:51
much of anything like like I think I have like 40 chickens

01:08:53
maybe. But it's, it's the point is

01:08:56
like, I have a farm stand and it's really funny how San Diego

01:09:00
County are always on me about the sign and like, you know, I'm

01:09:03
like, don't you guys have like bigger fish to fry than some

01:09:06
farm stand in Fallbrook? Like literally, are you kidding

01:09:09
me? I guess not, no.

01:09:12
In San Diego, kind of. They're they're obsessed with

01:09:13
some weird things. Yeah.

01:09:15
And I've never tried goat milk. I hear good things about goat

01:09:17
milk. I've tried raw milk, big raw

01:09:19
milk fan, but goat milk have not tried goat milk.

01:09:22
So yeah, maybe that could be the in person podcast.

01:09:25
We'll come up to the the ranch and have an in person.

01:09:27
Oh my God. I would love to entertain you.

01:09:29
We could actually have a big audience and we could play some

01:09:31
music. I'll get Tim Hockenberry going

01:09:32
and making some noise. It'll be.

01:09:34
Fun. There we go.

01:09:34
Yeah, that that'll be fun. We can have a longer podcast, do

01:09:37
it in person and listeners will. Cuddle your chickens.

01:09:40
Oh, Oh my gosh. I'll you can take home a little

01:09:42
baby chick coming. No, I can't.

01:09:45
If we do it soon. If we do it soon.

01:09:49
Camille, Camille had chickens, unfortunately, but sensitive

01:09:54
topic for Camille We we, we know about her chickens, but she's

01:09:58
been a chicken mom for a while, so she just lost her chickens.

01:10:01
So I'm. Sorry.

01:10:03
You're you're bribing her with baby chicks so she might

01:10:05
actually come all the way down from Orange Cat to her.

01:10:07
Baby chick. Don't tell me I could take a

01:10:08
chick because I'll take 50 chicks so.

01:10:11
Yeah, I think you should. So Elaine, thank you again so

01:10:15
much like everyone go check her out Kalati for governor on

01:10:20
Instagram. You can also just Google it, get

01:10:22
her website and all that stuff. And with that, thank you for

01:10:27
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01:10:41
Later. Take it easy.

01:10:42
Thank you.