In this episode of the California Underground podcast, Elaine Culotti shares her unconventional journey and bold vision for California, emphasizing the need to rethink the state's political and economic systems.
She advocates for no-party preference candidacy, fiscal responsibility, and grassroots campaigns to bring real change.
Key Topics:
- The rise of no-party preference candidates and what it means for California politics
- Why Californiaβs political establishment is broken and how to fix it
- Reorganization of cities and counties through Chapter 9 bankruptcy to cut costs and improve accountability
- The influence of billionaires, NGOs, and special interests on Californiaβs governance
- Countering unfunded mandates like sanctuary city policies and high-density housing regulations
- The importance of economic development and creating 2 million jobs to revitalize the state
- How to leverage small, clean campaigns with grassroots donations instead of big-money influence
- The concept of building a "Great American Credit Union" and alternative funding models
- Addressing Californiaβs housing crisis by reducing red tape and enabling entrepreneurs
- Restoring water infrastructure and resource management for sustainable growth
- The call for a political revolution and genuine leadership
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California has never had a governor who's ran as no party
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preference. But tonight, our guest, Elaine
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Colotti, farmer, real estate developer, Palisades fire
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survivor and now candidate for governor, who says she's asking
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you not to vote for her, but to vote for us.
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We're going to talk about her entire platform, what she plans
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to do if she becomes governor. And we're going to get started
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with that on tonight's episode, The California Underground,
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starting right now. What's going on everybody?
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Thanks for tuning into another episode of the California
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Underground. We have a great guest tonight,
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another camp for governor. We have more candidates.
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We're going to have tons of candidates all over 2026.
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So without further ado, let's bring in, First off, my trusty
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Co host, the best of fastest researcher in the West.
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And then we'll also bring in our guest, Elaine Colotti.
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Elaine, welcome to the show. How are you?
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Oh my God, it's so excited to be here.
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I love what you guys are doing. How about this?
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How about having a platform for candidates and no party
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preference? I just want to.
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Say. Two people jumped the line
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today. James Woods jumped the line.
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He said he's not going to be a Republican anymore.
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He's no party preference. And Kevin Kiley jumped the line.
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He's not going to be a Republican anymore.
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He's going to be a no party preference.
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We're seeing a trend. We're seeing a trend.
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Well, that's I think you'd appreciate my mug that I
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designed. It says political affiliation,
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Democrat, Republican, and it's checked.
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It says tear it all down and start all over.
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So that's sort of our feeling on this show as we've become like,
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I love it, like we can't take it.
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We're just like we're. I have always said burn it down
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but now I feel like that's I'm being insensitive to people.
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That's OK that. Was always my thing.
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I was just like, burn it down, but I didn't mean literally.
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So yeah, let the let the bridge. What?
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Let the bridge burning behind me light my way ahead.
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Exactly. Elaine, welcome to the show.
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Why don't you take a minute to introduce yourself to all our
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viewers who are on tonight and anybody who has a question for
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Elaine, make sure you drop it in the chat.
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I'll be watching. So, Elaine, let us know who you
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are. Hi everybody.
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My name is Elaine Colotti. I'm a Pacific Palisades resident
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and business owner and I also have a farm in Fallbrook in San
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Diego County. I've been here since 1991.
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I've raised all my kids here. I'm an entrepreneur, I am a
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developer. Some of you may know me from
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Undercover Billionaire where I went to Fresno and turned
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something out of nothing. It's a it's a great reality
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television show on Bravo. And I got pretty fed up during
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the fires, which, you know, I'm not the only one.
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However, I am the only one from the fires running for Governor
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of California. I've spent quite a bit of time
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in business and business development and I look at
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California as a really bad failed business.
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I also spent last year traveling from Humboldt County to Chula
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Vista filming a show called Mayors Matter, interviewing
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mayors across California. And I think I got a pretty good
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idea, literally from 52 mayors, what needs to change in
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California. And to be quite frank, although
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we don't have any money, which we can talk about a little later
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in the chat, I think that we have a really good starting
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place with the communities that are operating well and the
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people that are willing to keep that going.
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That's that's more than 50% of California.
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Yeah, I guess that's a we'll just jump right in with the no
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party preference. I, I, I think there is more and
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more people who are getting fed up with kind of the two party
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system and sort of the political I'm, I hate political tribalism.
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And sometimes even our own followers or listeners lash out
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at us and they're like, oh, you said something bad about Trump.
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How dare you? You must hate America.
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Bah, Bah, Bah, like you must love the liberals.
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And it's like, if you critique the Republicans, you're a
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socialist leftist. But if you're critiquing, you
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know, the leftist, then they think you're a fascist.
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And so I think there's a lot of people who are just throwing up
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their hands and going like, forget both sides.
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You're both so tribalistic. We just need, we need solutions.
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We need like actual solutions. We need adults in the room who
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are like, let's just get down to brass tacks of what's going on
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here. So explain your decision to go
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no party preference as opposed to jumping in on either of the
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two sides. OK, so 41% of Californians are
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actually no party preference, which is pretty high. 51% of
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Californians are women and I think women are best represented
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at no party preference because unfortunately, like everybody's
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got different needs. It's like saying that farmers
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are better represented by Democrats than Republicans.
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It's just not true. The farmers are actually very
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conservative and much better representative by Republicans.
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What happened with me is my party kind of left me and it, it
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actually started probably in 2016.
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I was pretty disillusioned with the Benghazi thing and Hillary
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Clinton. And then I wasn't enamored with
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Trump by any means, but I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
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And I all my neighbors in, in, in the Palisades and, and people
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were mad at me because I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
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I just thought, God, that's so crazy.
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Like, I thought who you voted for was kind of private and, you
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know, it was your personal business.
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And it just became clear to me that politics does divide people
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a lot more than people believe that it does, that people like
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to think they have autonomy and agency from it, but they really
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don't. Marriages break up over it.
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And so I can't imagine how California can mend and, you
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know, and become unified again if I'm a Republican or a
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Democrat at this point, because I don't really, they don't
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represent me in polarity at all. In fact, even if you take the
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horseshoe method, I know a lot of people talk about the
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horseshoe method where it's broader on the top and it really
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left, left and right, right on the bottom, or where the
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horseshoe is the closest. There's so much more similar to
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each other at that point than they are to the general mass.
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I just fit in in terms of issues.
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I'm fiscally extremely conservative.
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I can balance a checkbook. I have.
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I've signed the front of a check for 35 years.
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I don't, you know, my payroll is really high.
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I have had to manage and negotiate high level deals.
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And, you know, I'm not, I don't do well when there's no fiscal
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responsibility. And the Democrats and the
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Democratic Party have kind of always had a larger massing of,
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of, of government. They believe in bigger
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government, which is actually quite interesting because the
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reason they believe in government is for the management
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of social issues rather than the management of fiscal issues.
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And I don't actually disagree with that.
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I do think it would be better if certain things were handled by,
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you know, government on the social side.
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But you have to have good outcomes if you're going to do
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that. We don't have good outcomes
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anymore because we've kind of lost the plot.
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Instead of really focusing on solving homeless problems, for
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example, the Democrats don't actually do that as a democratic
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governmental body, but rather they hire an NGO or a group in
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the middle to do it. And then they don't manage it
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because the management part is the fiscal responsibility part.
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So we've got the swath in the middle that is eating up all of
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our funding. And this is not new news to
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anybody. If you you know, at least less
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you're living under a rock, you know that, you know, they're
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dozing things and busting up things and running around trying
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to figure out where the money went.
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And that's because the Democratic Party and the
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Republican Party on both sides of the aisle have allowed these
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non governmental agencies to operate without oversight.
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And, you know, they've done it legally.
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And you know what, what concerns me the most about that is we'll
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probably never recover that money and probably no one will
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be held accountable. And that is really, really
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tremendous. But that's, it's possible.
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That's what at least that's what we're so far seeing.
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They make some token arrests, you know, to make you feel
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better about it. But at the end of the day, the
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money's gone. What is it, $11 billion or
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something like that is gone in in Minnesota, out of the
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country? Minnesota is probably pale in
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comparison to what's going on here in California.
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We had Herb Morgan last on Herb Morgan last night.
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I could keep saying Herb Morgan, Herb Morgan on last night or
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last week and Erb Morgan. I love.
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Him, Erb, Morgan, he's a smart guy.
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He was great and he took a position that frankly, if I, we
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said to him on the show last week, if you told us what was
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state controller and you stopped us at a cocktail party before
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last week, we would have been able to give you an answer.
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And we follow this, we follow politics pretty close.
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But his point is that so much money is going to these NGOs and
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to these non governmental organizations and it's just a
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black hole of it's not the government handling it.
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It's just we're going to contract this out.
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We're going to farm this out to these NGOs.
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And then the end result is you get Alexander Souffer in LA who
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has a $5 home in Brentwood, flies private, he has
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a Range Rover. He's given himself, you know, 6
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figure, huge salaries and then he's feeding instant ramen.
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That's a governmental problem of like accountability and
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leadership. I think of you can't just throw
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money at these NGOs and say, here, take it, here's billions
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of dollars, you do the best you can with it.
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Like, I think that's a governmental breakdown, right?
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It's a it's also a culture that's developed and it's a
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favor paying mechanism because as you can imagine, which is
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another perfect reason for MPP is Democrats and Republicans
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have massive funding compared to the middle.
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An average Democratic governors race in California is going to
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cost $200 million and and no party preference is going to
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cost $10 million. Why?
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It's the same damn race. But at the end of the day,
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there's all these people that are involved in these big, huge
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races that, you know, the governor's grift, right?
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They're like, if you're going to run for governor, you know, you
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should fully expect to have to spend this much.
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And then they raise those funds from all of the big people that
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are now operating NGOs. You know, they're large pharma,
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they're large lobby companies. They're the Trial Lawyers
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Association. It's the, I could just go on and
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on. It's farming, agriculture, a big
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AG and then you have all the unions.
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I mean Steiger just bought a bunch of unions with financing.
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It's crazy to me that you can buy your way into the governor's
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office and the only way out of that is to be in the middle.
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And then if in you're in the middle like I am, you know,
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you're trying to self fund and you're doing like door knocking
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and you're doing basically, it's better to get $1001.00 donations
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than it is one $1000 donation because you're working on
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engagement. And if you do that and you kiss
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a lot of babies and knock a lot of doors, people get to know
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you. But it's a clean campaign is my
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point. It's a clean campaign.
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I I'd rather do that and lose than take a bunch of money from
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a bunch of people and make a pay back.
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A bunch of people win and have like no autonomy and no agency
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to and that's what we keep. People can't say that I'd rather
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take a bath and hand my 5% or 10% that I get if I win to a
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candidate that has has agency. But if you don't have like her,
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what Herb is saying is absolutely true, right?
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When I, when I started thinking about what I could do, the first
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thing I looked into is can you bankrupt a state so that you can
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reorganize it, but you cannot. So states are sovereign.
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So my first 100 days in office, I can't bankrupt California,
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right? Everybody's like, that's really
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bad. Your bonds will be like, wait a
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second. If you're being ripped off and
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you know you're being ripped off, but you can't shut down all
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of those pay holes in the boat, then you can't get you can't get
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in front of the laws. And the only way to do it is
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bankruptcy and reorganization. So you can file.
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And there is actually Chapter 9 for cities.
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It's a municipality Chapter 9 bankruptcy plan.
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And you can go to Karen Bass and sit down and say, hey, hi, I'm
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the new governor. Hopefully, you know, she's
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becomes the mayor. Who knows who it's going to be.
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I hope not Nithya Rahman. I just want to say that, guys,
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if you're not paying attention, Nithya Rahman is a democratic
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socialist. So Karen Bass is like a
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Republican compared to her. So let's say I sit down with
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Karen Bass and I say, hey, Karen, you know, look, here's
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where we are. If we bankrupt LA, we could cut
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all of these NGOs out under reorganization, and we'll pay
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the bills that we have to pay. And then we can do
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investigations and we can figure out where all the money's going.
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And if they're good and they're working, they'll be reinstated.
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If they're not, we'll get rid of them.
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That is a meaningful plan, and that is something that Herb
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Morgan can execute. But you have to have a governor
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that's willing to do it, and nobody on the Democratic side
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right now is willing to do it. That would never happen.
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Would Steve and Chad Bianco be willing to do it?
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Probably because some of the groups that are funding them
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would allow and some of them wouldn't.
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I mean, it comes down to whether or not when you're in the
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governor's office, if you have agency, that's really what it
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comes down to. And if you're going to be bought
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and sold, you're going to have a really hard time saying that you
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have agency in the governor's office with a straight face.
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So NPP starts to be very powerful to the public when
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they're fed up about what that actually means.
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Yes, it's self funded. Yes, it's a lot of work, but
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it's a lot of work for a very short period of time.
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You're going to know if you can get an NPP in office by the
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primary. That is realistically, well,
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about 1.5 million votes. I need 1.5 million people to
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vote for me to be in the primary.
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And if I get in the primary, I will win the general election
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because then all the sudden you lose.
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Like whoever didn't get in, whatever Democrat or Republican
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didn't get in, they're going to see me as the best way forward
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because I'm a moderate and a real moderate.
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Like walk the walk, talk, the talk.
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That's my my action. So I feel like the NPP is super
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powerful, not just for me, but also for the people of
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California that are really truly fed up, like willing to vote
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out, willing to take a stance. It's not about whether people
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can say that what it is now about, which is tough.
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And I'm asking all of you to please spread this word.
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I mean, really, do you have to get engaged?
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You have to actually go to the voting poll and vote.
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This is the thing. If you don't do that, then you
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never you're not going to change anything.
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And historically in primaries, only about 7 million people vote
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across the entire state. So in in a general election for
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that, that which will be after the primary.
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So the November election, it will be closer to 11 million
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people. But by then the bed is kind of
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made. You know what I mean?
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You've already got two people that you might not want.
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Yeah. And so it's really important in
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this new election that's coming up in June.
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You're talking about like 85 days away or something that if
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you really want meaningful change, go to the voting poll.
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Vote for who you want. It might not be me.
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That's fine. You're not voting for me anyway.
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You're voting for us. That's my whole point.
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But go to the voting poll. 100% yeah.
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We do try to so, so many people show up to the polls in November
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and they're like, I don't like these two options.
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Why are these my two options? Because you ignored the primary.
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Yes, yes, exactly. We say it all the time, yeah.
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We just got to push it, push it, push it to go.
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And like, I'm Elaine Colotti, see me, see me, see me, you
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know, vote for me because what I am is I'm the next step in
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change. I'm cut.
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I, I, the 1st order of business is to fly to DC and sit on the
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steps of the White House and beg Donald Trump to come help us
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federally. We have no federal conversation
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whatsoever because of Gavin Newsom.
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This is not democratic. This is literally an inability
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to communicate. Bury whatever, bury your hatchet
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on behalf of California and represent California federally.
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We, the job of the governor is to have a federal relationship.
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It's the one of three tent poles of Sacramento.
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Sacramento's responsibilities are, let me make them really
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clear. So people don't, you know, a lot
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of people don't understand Sacramento's job is to keep
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Californians safe. That safe bucket is everything.
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That's your Police Department, fire department, your EMT's get
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cleaning up your homeless, making sure your streets are
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safe at night, safe during the day.
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That the borders that are in your cities, that the city
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borders that are not federal borders, that those are being
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kept safe, that you're you're controlling migrant populations,
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that you're doing all the things that you need to do to keep your
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city safe. Sacramento is wholly responsible
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for that. They are supposed to fund it so
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that the cities can operate in the same fashion that Sacramento
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lays out, number one. Number two, they are responsible
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for economic development. Economic development is bringing
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money into the state any way you can.
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The Lieutenant governor's job almost exclusively.
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Who, by the way, is Eleni Kunalakis, who has brought no
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business into our state in seven years.
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That is her job, economic development.
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She has to be supported by the governor's office for the
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federal side while she works with the state to bring economic
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development into the state. Why?
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So that you have enough money going into your general fund to
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pay your bills. We have not done that.
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We have driven business out of the state.
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You know, all of the sayings like Gavin Newsom is the
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greatest economic development governor for other states or
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U-Haul. We are the greatest, you know,
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U-Haul advertiser. We have taken the general fund
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from three $110 billion down to 265 billion.
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And I'll get into mansion tax in a minute because a lot of people
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have like a lot to say about it, but so do I.
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But that loss of money, that loss of nearly 35 to $45 billion
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annually, OK, is incredible because it's just from bad
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business decisions that money walked.
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So that's the second thing that Sacramento is responsible for
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and has completely failed at. The third thing that Sacramento
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is supposed to do is have a relationship with the DC office
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and the federal money and Donald Trump so that when we get in a
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predicament like that, fires that we are not left hung out to
00:17:47
dry, OK? We are left hung out to dry.
00:17:51
Moreover, his priority was making knee pads to go to Davos.
00:17:54
This is not a business strategy. So that's my my position as
00:18:00
governor. So those are the three primary
00:18:01
tent holes. The rest of the power needs to
00:18:03
go back to all the cities. Also, they have not corrected a
00:18:08
lot of things that would help cities.
00:18:10
Like there's this thing called Bradley Burns tax.
00:18:14
This is just something dumb and soul fixable.
00:18:17
So Bradley Burns tax is origin tax.
00:18:20
So let's say you want to buy a lawn mower and mow your lawn
00:18:24
tomorrow. You go to Home Depot and you're
00:18:26
going to buy a lawn mower. It's $179 and you decide, oh,
00:18:29
I'm going to get it. I'm here in Home Depot.
00:18:32
I'm already there. And your phone pings you.
00:18:34
It's Amazon Prime. It's $159 on Amazon Prime and
00:18:38
it'll be delivered tomorrow morning when you were planning
00:18:40
on mowing your lawn. Chances are you buy an extension
00:18:42
cord and, I don't know, some batteries, and you leave Home
00:18:45
Depot in the morning. Your lawnmower arrives, you fire
00:18:47
that thing up, you mow your lawn, and you don't think any
00:18:50
more about it. But what really happened is Home
00:18:53
Depot lost the sale, your town lost the sales tax, Amazon drove
00:18:58
all over your roads and left their big cardboard box there,
00:19:01
and you mowed your lawn. Bradley Burns Tax is the tax
00:19:04
that returns 1% of all sales in California back to their origin.
00:19:12
So that is where your 1 to 1.75% tax comes back into your town.
00:19:18
You know it does. It fixes your potholes, it does
00:19:20
your Christmas lights program. It cleans up your streets.
00:19:23
That's what that money is for. It's for your community.
00:19:25
That's why you have sales tax come back.
00:19:27
Bradley Burns Guess what? California is keeping it on
00:19:32
online sales, 100% of it. And so now towns that lose all
00:19:38
of their sales to online don't get their Bradley Burns tax.
00:19:41
And the worst part is if you try to figure out how much it is and
00:19:45
what the metric is, it lies to you.
00:19:48
Nobody really wants you to know this.
00:19:49
So I ask everyone that's listening the question, how much
00:19:53
do you consume online versus going into a store?
00:19:57
Because most people have told me it's over 50%.
00:20:00
Some people say it's 8090%. Sacramento will tell you that
00:20:05
it's only 28%, which is metrically impossible.
00:20:10
So now you're taking away somewhere in the neighborhood of
00:20:15
20 million, $40 million a year from towns for programs
00:20:20
for their towns. And when it came up in 2019,
00:20:25
Gavin Newsom vetoed it because he said it was too much trouble
00:20:27
for Amazon, never mind that they're delivering to those
00:20:31
towns already. So for me, Bradley Burns is
00:20:34
crucial. It's a crucial tax.
00:20:36
Also, there's another thing called tort tax, which most
00:20:40
people don't know about. Tort tax is a hidden tax that's
00:20:43
in your insurance premiums. It comes from trial attorneys
00:20:48
who sue so much and get so many people to join lawsuits.
00:20:53
In California, that cost every single household an additional
00:20:57
$3000 a year on insurance and in expensive neighborhoods it's up
00:21:02
to 9000. So Beverly Hills, Brentwood,
00:21:04
Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Irvine, Manhattan Beach, San
00:21:08
Diego, La Jolla, all those places, 9000 a year, you pay
00:21:12
extra in insurance premiums on tort tax.
00:21:15
And this is from trial attorneys that don't want to have trial
00:21:19
reform or tort reform, which we need in California.
00:21:23
My first day in office, I would do it, which is one of the
00:21:26
primary reasons I cannot get any help from trial attorneys
00:21:30
because that to them is the worst thing possible.
00:21:33
So let me tell you how important it is. 50% of the four million
00:21:37
businesses that are in California are in litigation.
00:21:39
Statistically, if you open a business in California, you
00:21:42
stand a 90% chance of litigation.
00:21:44
And these litigation claims are things like trip and fall and
00:21:47
racist racial discrimination and DEI stuff.
00:21:50
They're not because you did something wrong so terrible to
00:21:54
somebody, but rather a bucket of industrial law warfare has taken
00:21:58
up all of our economic development space and it's gone
00:22:02
unchecked because trial attorneys are very powerful and
00:22:06
they fund Democrats. Trial attorneys are very
00:22:08
powerful and they fund Republicans, but they don't fund
00:22:12
NPP baby. And you want to get rid of them,
00:22:15
You have to really make an effort.
00:22:18
Well, there is that I think there's a proposition or
00:22:20
something coming down where they're trying to put a cap on
00:22:23
Uber accidents and that's something that obviously the
00:22:25
trial attorneys are pushing back on.
00:22:28
I'm an attorney myself. I'm not a trial attorney, so it
00:22:30
doesn't hurt me. There was a question by a
00:22:35
skeptic and out you said let let you have it like all the hard
00:22:39
questions. So I want to let me see if I can
00:22:42
pull this up. Someone said, and this is just
00:22:46
their phrasing, they said, so her big plan is to bankrupt
00:22:50
cities. I explain that a little bit more
00:22:53
because I think, again, if you're reaching the skeptics,
00:22:57
they may hear that and just go, I'm out, I don't get it, but
00:23:00
explain that. And then somebody else, I don't
00:23:03
want to miss this, had a question about immigration and
00:23:06
sanctuary state policies. OK, so first of all, let's do
00:23:12
the bankrupt cities. Wow there for whoever asked that
00:23:20
question and this is for everybody to understand.
00:23:24
California's business plan currently is as follows. 40
00:23:28
million people in California per the censuses records.
00:23:34
Historically they they're estimating it's around
00:23:36
40 and a half million people pay taxes ready 17 and a
00:23:41
half million. So much less than half pay
00:23:44
taxes. Of the 17 and a half million,
00:23:50
$122 billion that comes out of the general fund or into the
00:23:56
general fund each year comes from 200 guys.
00:24:01
Now I told you earlier in the podcast, it's $265 billion going
00:24:06
into the general fund. So let me be very clear, $122
00:24:13
billion a year is going bye bye over mansion tax, OK, It's
00:24:18
vacating. This morning's Hoover report
00:24:21
says 30% has left. My calculations is it's close.
00:24:25
Just coming up on 47%. I'm calculating everybody that's
00:24:29
leaving that would be $88 billion if it gets to 50
00:24:34
eventually 122 billion. These are the billionaires that
00:24:37
are leaving in light of the idea that there's going to be some
00:24:41
sort of government official going through their underwear
00:24:43
drawer. Now, people have criticized me
00:24:47
because I'm absolutely against billionaires tax.
00:24:49
Why am I against it? What's a stupid business plan
00:24:52
#147% of our general fund comes from one group of guys, 1
00:24:58
customer, the billionaire class. Imagine taking your business
00:25:01
plan into the open market and saying hi Bank of America, I'd
00:25:05
like to borrow whatever to start up my business and 47% of my
00:25:09
revenue comes from 1 customer that I have pissed off and they
00:25:12
are leaving. So to be clear, we're already
00:25:16
broke with 265 billion. When I get into office, I will
00:25:20
be $122 billion in the arrears on top of that.
00:25:25
So there won't be enough money to go around for all these
00:25:28
cities to keep funding things that they are funding, like $24
00:25:32
billion a year in homelessness. And the best possible, least
00:25:37
drastic, most harmless, fastest and swiftest way is actually
00:25:42
reorganization city by city, starting with the biggest cities
00:25:47
that are in the worst trouble and suffering the most.
00:25:50
Los Angeles being my example of Chapter 9.
00:25:52
Chapter 9 is a reorganization of your spending, which is
00:25:57
important if you, the mayor, Karen Bass, are spending all the
00:26:02
money that comes in or Sacramento's money that's
00:26:04
supposed to be coming to you is going to middle men.
00:26:06
And you can't do anything about it when you know darn well you
00:26:09
don't have enough money to pay your firefighters, OK, clearly,
00:26:13
because they didn't show up in the Palisades.
00:26:15
So the problem is this. A city like LA has 12 safety
00:26:21
officers, OK, 12. That includes fire police and
00:26:25
EMT. And you have 4 million people in
00:26:28
LA. So when you call 911, you have a
00:26:32
one in 33 percent, 3300% chance. That's how many people are 3300
00:26:38
people under one safety officer coming to your rescue.
00:26:41
And normally, by the way, they come in a set of two because
00:26:44
they don't like to travel alone. So it's usually 2 cops or two
00:26:47
firemen or three firemen. So just multiply that because
00:26:51
there are 3300 people in LA per safety officer.
00:26:55
Now if you go to Sunnyvale, it's only 300.
00:26:59
Why? Because it's better run,
00:27:00
smaller, more money and less Ng OS and less stealing because
00:27:04
it's not so big. So anybody that questions what a
00:27:08
bankruptcy in Chapter 9 could do for a city like LA, it would be
00:27:13
a miracle worker. And I'm believing Herb Morgan
00:27:16
would be right on it because people like that understand that
00:27:19
finance is absolute finance, finite science.
00:27:25
It's a science. It's math.
00:27:26
If there's not enough money to pay the bills, don't write the
00:27:29
check. Next was your other question,
00:27:32
which weirdly goes right into this question, Immigration,
00:27:35
sanctuary cities and unfunded mandates.
00:27:40
OK. Our whole state is made-up of
00:27:43
this thing called unfunded mandates, which people don't
00:27:46
really understand how terrible this is, and the opposite is
00:27:51
completely true of what people think.
00:27:54
It is not the onus of the city to pay for an unfunded mandate.
00:27:59
The simple fact is the state is broke and they don't have the
00:28:02
funding for the mandate. So they don't have the funding.
00:28:05
It's unfunded by Sacramento. In fact, they have a program in
00:28:10
place to pay back the unfunded mandates to the city, but they
00:28:13
never do it. It's a 15 year waiting list.
00:28:16
It's almost $2 billion and you're not getting your money if
00:28:19
you're a city and you have a mandate that you fulfilled
00:28:22
because it was mandated and the promise was you were going to
00:28:25
get paid. And not only that, you as a city
00:28:28
cannot charge interest to Sacramento on the 15 year wait.
00:28:32
Also there's like 7 guys that they pay $100 a day that decide
00:28:34
who's who gets the money back. It's the biggest sham there is.
00:28:38
And sanctuary cities are an unfunded mandate.
00:28:41
So you're mandating cities to harbor people, which Swalwell
00:28:47
called for, and I'm quoting him now, to hide illegal immigrants
00:28:51
from ICE, which is calling on California citizens to break the
00:28:56
law on a mandate that was put upon them.
00:29:00
And it is unfunded, funded, and they don't have the money to
00:29:03
actually harbor those people. So we can't operate like this.
00:29:08
It's like, all I'm saying is we can't operate like this.
00:29:09
And if you don't believe me, Fact Check me.
00:29:11
You know who's on here? Camille, She's an incredible
00:29:14
fact checker. She can Fact Check every single
00:29:15
thing. These are really hardcore issues
00:29:18
that nobody wants to tell the truth about.
00:29:20
No, Swalwell says, oh, definitely go in there and get,
00:29:23
you know, harbor those criminals and take them away, hide them
00:29:26
from ICE. What are It's not only illegal,
00:29:30
you're asking American citizens and California residents and
00:29:34
citizens to break the law, and he's running for governor.
00:29:40
Yeah, it's it's kind of like it's more important to them for
00:29:45
virtue signaling rather than the reality of the situation, which
00:29:49
is you can't afford it. It doesn't make sense.
00:29:52
You're asking people to break the law.
00:29:53
I, I do like the LAPD chief who every time some radical City
00:30:00
Council member demands that he start informing immigrants or
00:30:05
the city. But anyway, I was saying how a
00:30:09
lot of the cities now it, it's almost like they're virtue
00:30:11
signalling or this is just a California policy of the virtue
00:30:14
signal without thinking about the adult reality of like, we
00:30:19
can't go, you can't pay for it or you're asking people to break
00:30:23
the law. And I was saying about the LAPD
00:30:26
chief who keeps getting grilled by City Council members, leftist
00:30:30
City Council members who were saying, will you vow or promise
00:30:34
that you're going to let us know when Ice is in the area so we
00:30:38
can start alerting people to hide from ice?
00:30:41
And his dry answer is, you want me to, as the LAPD chief, alert
00:30:48
you to break the law Like that's you're asking me as an L, It's
00:30:54
he's one of the few adults in LA at this point.
00:30:56
But it does seem like it's just this.
00:31:00
It's more important. To virtue signal what, whether
00:31:03
you can pay for it or whether it makes any sense.
00:31:07
And I think that's what frustrates so many people is
00:31:09
that it's, it's just like just enough with the the goofiness,
00:31:13
enough with the stupidity, enough with the virtue
00:31:15
signalling. Like we have to be adults and we
00:31:18
have to look at what we can spend and what we can do.
00:31:21
And the reality is politicians in California are just, they're
00:31:24
selling you a bill of goods they can't do, they can't follow
00:31:28
through on. And it, I think that's what
00:31:30
frustrates so many people. So that was my point was that
00:31:33
the, the virtue signalling overtakes common sense and
00:31:37
reality here in California. And that's really the
00:31:39
frustrating thing is when it it falls back and it hurts people
00:31:44
in cities and across the state, right?
00:31:47
I also think that it it, I'm not sure, you know, where people get
00:31:55
the information that they truly believe in, where they form
00:31:57
their opinions. Like, is it something that, you
00:32:00
know, you formed when you were in college?
00:32:02
And so like the college, if you went to a liberal college, then
00:32:06
you have like this idea that, you know, we're going to accept
00:32:09
everybody even when they're not accepting of you.
00:32:11
Like when do you recognize that someone's not actually accepting
00:32:14
of you and who you are, but we're you're still going to
00:32:16
accept them no matter what and what they're doing.
00:32:18
Like the harmony, the harmony is exactly like, it's a back and
00:32:22
forth. It's never flow.
00:32:23
There's always going to be compromised.
00:32:25
And what I find about, you know, these insane empathy plays that
00:32:31
are, you know, not functional like they, it's the idea that,
00:32:36
for example, you're being humane by letting people sleep on the
00:32:38
street, you know, that are hunched over on fentanyl and
00:32:41
you're just going to step over them when you go into a store
00:32:44
because you don't want to move them and, and, and they're like
00:32:46
laying in their own feces. And that's somehow being, you
00:32:50
know, empathetic. OK, we've lost the plot if
00:32:54
that's what we think is empathetic.
00:32:55
It's not empathetic, but it's very you just have to sometimes
00:32:59
just do things. You just have to lead by example
00:33:02
because talking isn't solving the problem.
00:33:05
For example, if I was the governor and I cleaned up
00:33:07
homelessness, no matter how I got there, people would say, oh,
00:33:10
my God, she was like, she did it.
00:33:12
How? I don't know how she did it.
00:33:14
People don't want to know how you're going to do it.
00:33:15
People don't want to know that you need 3 lines.
00:33:17
You know you need a line for completely crazy.
00:33:19
You need a line for people that have drug and alcohol problems
00:33:22
and you need a line for people that are just down and out on
00:33:24
their luck and basically need a bath and a job application.
00:33:27
You know, it's just people don't understand that if you're out of
00:33:30
your mind, you're always going to be out of your mind.
00:33:31
But get a get a hospital bed, get them in a hospital bed,
00:33:34
medicate them and do whatever you need to do.
00:33:35
Call their next to Ken and if they don't have it
00:33:37
institutionalized them. But it is not the responsibility
00:33:40
of every Californian when we have no money to feed our own
00:33:43
kids or to get get our own kids into college or pay our property
00:33:46
taxes or get our roads fixed or anything.
00:33:49
It's like the whole theory of the airlines, Every one of you
00:33:53
has flown like we get on a plane.
00:33:55
They're like, put the oxygen mask on yourself first before
00:33:59
you assist others, because if you're dead, you're no good to
00:34:02
anyone else. And it's just we, this idea that
00:34:05
we can take care of everybody at our own demise, where we have no
00:34:10
money left and we have no willpower to do it.
00:34:14
We're completely and totally deflated from the oligarchy of
00:34:19
the Democratic Party and the funding behind it, the machine
00:34:23
behind it, how they try to drown out anybody with a voice that
00:34:27
descends them. I really feel like you just have
00:34:31
to have hard conversations with people and you have to have
00:34:33
comments. I'm a mom like I would never let
00:34:35
my kids. It's like my line is would I let
00:34:37
my kid do that? No, I would not.
00:34:39
You know, that's my line. Just no.
00:34:42
It's just a straight no for me. And you are not going to harbor
00:34:44
criminals. I'm sorry.
00:34:46
I'm not going to like put people at risk.
00:34:48
And moreover, if Sacramento cannot pay for it is not man,
00:34:52
you don't mandate it. It's ridiculous.
00:34:55
So I'm against unfunded mandates.
00:34:58
And as governor, there will be not be man.
00:35:00
There's no mandating unless you have the money to pay for it and
00:35:03
it is a state emergency and it is agreed on.
00:35:06
But first of all, another thing that people don't understand
00:35:09
about unfunded mandates is that mayors and City Council don't
00:35:12
have any choice. So they get the unfunded
00:35:15
mandate. I, I did this interview with the
00:35:17
mayor of Burbank, who by the way is amazing, a Democrat, very
00:35:20
strong Democrat too. Had a ribbon cutting for the
00:35:23
studios that they were opening. OK, never mind.
00:35:26
Like in the backyard, SB-79 is putting in high density housing
00:35:30
in single family residential neighborhoods.
00:35:32
And she's freaking out about it because her Burbank residents
00:35:35
don't want that. And she's like, we, you know,
00:35:37
we're it's just a pissing match between the mayor and the City
00:35:41
Council and all the residents that voted them in and trusted
00:35:44
them. And mayors across California,
00:35:47
you know, are the with the small towns is who they go to and
00:35:50
they're like mayor so and so like, what's going on?
00:35:52
Why are they building an apartment, you know, in my in my
00:35:54
yard? And it's not their choice.
00:35:57
And so we have to stop Sacramento from passing like
00:36:01
literally probably the worst five bills in American history.
00:36:04
We're all passed in California in the last five years.
00:36:07
I mean, ask a Democrat. Go out.
00:36:09
Ask your best Democrat, biggest Democrat friend.
00:36:11
Say to your biggest and best Democrat friend, do you think
00:36:15
it's OK for kids in school to be in a situation where they might
00:36:21
want to change their gender and, and they're wearing lipstick and
00:36:25
they changed their name and whatever.
00:36:27
And there is a rule or a law that says that the school does
00:36:31
not have to tell the parent. Just ask any Democrat.
00:36:35
And if you find me a yes, bring that person to me.
00:36:40
Yeah, well, that law thankfully got blocked by the Supreme Court
00:36:44
this week. So.
00:36:45
But it is a crazy law that it it did bring up a lot of parental
00:36:49
issues and parental rights issues.
00:36:50
And I think that was something that was a sticking point for a
00:36:52
lot of people in California was parents who had gone along with
00:36:56
this virtue signaling for a while.
00:36:58
All of a sudden it got to the point where, oh wait, now the
00:37:01
schools are going to Co parent with me on what my kids and
00:37:07
they're going to hide stuff from like what what I should know
00:37:10
about my kid. I think that was a big line in
00:37:12
the sand. Two comments I want to bring up
00:37:14
from the chat. Someone did say this is
00:37:17
fascinating, I've never heard a lot of this and F Swalwell and
00:37:22
then someone asked, we can broaden this question.
00:37:26
How would you handle L as housing?
00:37:28
You can talk about California housing in general.
00:37:31
They also ask, can you say hi to their cat Dawn?
00:37:34
Hi to your cat Dawn. Yeah, that's what they ask.
00:37:37
Can you say hi to their cat Dawn?
00:37:39
I'm wondering if I'm being punked.
00:37:40
Hi Cat Dawn. I'm just wondering what it says
00:37:42
when you say it fast. Is that like, is that like a
00:37:44
Bart Simpson joke? But I'm OK.
00:37:49
With that, like it, you know, I want people to, you know, the
00:37:52
best, the best position in the world is to be underestimated.
00:37:55
Hence the blonde hair. So OK, California housing, which
00:38:00
is actually my bucket. Like I probably know less about
00:38:03
Chapter 9 than I do about housing.
00:38:05
I know a lot about housing. I've been a builder for a long
00:38:07
time and I want to tell everybody in the entire state
00:38:14
that SB-79 is a land grab. It's nothing short of a land
00:38:18
grab. SB-79 is the high density
00:38:21
housing bill and the idea was and it was presented in early
00:38:26
25. It was passed in July of 25.
00:38:30
Is this Scott Weiner? Yes, here's how it was sold.
00:38:34
OK, Scott Weiner has so many bad bills.
00:38:36
This is how it was sold. Hi, Democrats.
00:38:40
We were thinking, wouldn't it be great if we could put some high
00:38:42
density housing around, you know, the airport and the train
00:38:46
stations and the big bus terminals.
00:38:48
It's kind of like a, a transit district area, you know, some of
00:38:52
those big warehouses. And what could happen then is it
00:38:55
would be easier for people to get on and off of their, you
00:38:58
know, transportation for work. And wouldn't that be great?
00:39:01
And Democrats said, well, that's a good idea.
00:39:04
They'll clean up the bus area. It'll clean up the airport area
00:39:07
to clean up the train station area.
00:39:09
And it passed, of course, because that's how bills are
00:39:12
sold in California. So then the fires came and that
00:39:18
was like 6 months later and they're busy out there,
00:39:21
Sacramento's busy out there putting SB-79 all around where
00:39:24
transit districts are going at unfunded mandates.
00:39:28
OK, going to the city and saying, hey, right here next to
00:39:31
your train station, we'd like you to put, you know, these high
00:39:35
rise apartment buildings in. And if you don't do it by a
00:39:38
certain date and make it happen, we'll send someone to do it for
00:39:41
you, OK? That's how they do it.
00:39:44
On October the 8th of 2025, Coastal Commission held a quiet
00:39:51
meeting with Wolfgang Puck and Frank Gehry's development group
00:39:55
for Sunset and PCH. The development group that had
00:39:59
been working to build a Wolfgang Puck restaurant complex with
00:40:04
shops and all kinds of stuff at Sunset and PCH with Frank
00:40:08
Gehry's design, who's recently passed away.
00:40:11
But was it's all Frank Gehry and it's beautiful and it was
00:40:14
floated all around the Palisades.
00:40:16
As this new development and people finally said yes to this
00:40:20
after many years of planning, great parking, ocean views
00:40:25
tremendous. And on October the 8th of 2025,
00:40:30
in a quiet meeting, because the mailers went to all the burned
00:40:33
out houses, they passed their development with a small change.
00:40:40
They added a transit district and I would say a blanking
00:40:45
transit district, but I won't do that on your podcast.
00:40:48
They took away 244 parking spaces and said we really love
00:40:52
your design, but we're going to put a giant bus terminal here so
00:40:56
we can implement SB-79 in the burned neighborhood of the
00:40:59
Pacific Palisades at Sunset PCH. So as Sacramento does, they
00:41:05
ripped the rug on the whole concept.
00:41:07
And now what they're doing is if they want to put developments in
00:41:11
certain areas that they're big funding developers want, they
00:41:14
identify them and figure out a way to get a transit district in
00:41:18
backwards so that they can convert your single family
00:41:21
residential housing into high density housing, which is
00:41:27
bullshit. And not only that, it's a lie.
00:41:30
And it is ripping the rug and it is baiting and switching.
00:41:34
It is everything that you could possibly imagine because it's an
00:41:37
unfunded mandate. So they get to jump the Rubicon.
00:41:40
They don't have to go through all the city hearings.
00:41:42
They go around City Council. It has to be stopped.
00:41:46
And that was not the spirit in which it was developed, but it
00:41:50
is the spirit in which it is being implemented.
00:41:53
It is a land grab and everyone should fight it and everyone
00:41:56
should be against it. In fact, I'm not sure it's
00:41:59
constitutional to convert R1 zoning to multifamily.
00:42:04
Because if you own your property and your real property, I'm
00:42:08
quite sure if the trial attorneys of California would
00:42:11
get it together and start looking at the slander of title
00:42:15
and other ways they might figure out that one of our
00:42:17
constitutional rights is the right to own property.
00:42:21
And the only pedigree and title to your property is your deed in
00:42:24
your zoning. OK.
00:42:26
And so if you take the deed and the zoning away, it's like
00:42:29
taking the Corvette logo or the Bentley logo or the Rolls Royce
00:42:34
logo off of the car and just slapping whatever you want to
00:42:37
slap on there. How about an apartment right
00:42:40
next to you? How about it?
00:42:42
And it's that's what they're doing with SB-79.
00:42:45
This is the unfunded mandate situation.
00:42:47
And for housing, we don't need it.
00:42:50
It's nonsense. We don't need it.
00:42:53
We need low income housing, but we don't need it on the beach.
00:42:56
We need low income housing. And all of these developments
00:42:59
that these people in cities across California have spent so
00:43:04
much time entitling and trying to get built and they get stuck.
00:43:08
They get stuck by EPA, Sequa, Coastal Commission, you name it.
00:43:11
If you'd let them build and get them through the process, we
00:43:14
would never have a housing shortage case.
00:43:16
The point would be Chula Vista. Chula Vista has one of the best.
00:43:20
I mean, it's amazing what they've done down there and
00:43:22
they're always developing and building homes.
00:43:24
But because of the pollution down there and EPA, they've been
00:43:27
stopped. And it's, it's an impossible
00:43:29
situation if you have so much red tape that you can't build,
00:43:32
you can't build anything in California without spending 30
00:43:35
to 40% of the money that you have allocated to build on the
00:43:39
red tape and the time waiting in the interest while you wait.
00:43:42
So you have to eliminate that before you have any real
00:43:44
building plan. And I don't see anybody that's
00:43:47
put that into place. I, I've said on this program so
00:43:52
many times that the one thing government has to do when it
00:43:55
comes to housing is get the hell out of the way.
00:43:57
And it I, I repeat it ad nauseam because you have all these
00:44:01
politicians who try and come up with these crafty ways to
00:44:06
incentivize or go to housing or build affordable housing here,
00:44:11
build high density housing along transit.
00:44:14
In, in reality, that's not what Californians want.
00:44:17
When people say like we want affordable housing, they're not
00:44:20
talking about, oh, I want AI want a one bedroom apartment
00:44:24
above the subway or the train or the bus station.
00:44:28
I think people in California are thinking, I want the American
00:44:32
dream of I want the white picket fence.
00:44:35
I want a house with a backyard where I can raise my family in a
00:44:38
nice suburb or something like that.
00:44:40
That's what I think people want when they say we want affordable
00:44:44
housing. And it it's just California
00:44:47
can't accept the fact that they've bungled up and ruined
00:44:51
the housing industry with all these regulations, with Sequa
00:44:55
and all these zoning issues for so many decades.
00:44:58
And the one thing politicians never do is they never want to
00:45:01
admit that they're wrong. So they never want to go back
00:45:03
and say, hey, guys, we were wrong.
00:45:04
This was a bad policy. Let's go back and fix this.
00:45:08
So they start to like chip at the edges.
00:45:10
It's like they kind of like they create an exemption here for
00:45:13
sequel or they create an exemption here for this zone.
00:45:16
And then at the end of the day, it it's just like just scrap the
00:45:18
whole thing. Just start over.
00:45:19
It's OK, you can start over. You don't have to hold on to
00:45:22
sequel like it's the Holy Grail or something like you can, you
00:45:26
can scrap it and start all over at you can scrap it and just not
00:45:29
do anything. You don't have to do anything.
00:45:32
I, I just, I'm always flabbergasted that especially
00:45:36
with Democrats, it's not surprising with Democrats that
00:45:39
they always think that government has to be the
00:45:41
solution as opposed to maybe government's the whole problem
00:45:45
here. And we just need to get the hell
00:45:46
out of the way and let people build housing, Let people build
00:45:50
those single family homes because that's what people in
00:45:52
California want, Like they want those single family homes.
00:45:56
Well, they never think about like if you build it, they will
00:45:59
come. OK, so let's say they build the
00:46:00
high destiny housing. They fill it up with people and
00:46:03
children, but they don't have, we still, you know, haven't
00:46:06
built any water infrastructure even though we've had the funds
00:46:10
and it was passed like what, 1215 years ago or something
00:46:13
where we, we passed laws for that.
00:46:15
So we're not holding the water. And then we're constantly like,
00:46:18
oh, we fill up with water, but then we're in a drought 6 months
00:46:20
later because the state did nothing to save your water.
00:46:23
And they schools are failing and they don't even have the space
00:46:26
to build another school. It sounds like a bunch of
00:46:29
teachers are starting to kind of check out of the system.
00:46:32
And I've like been hearing reports of they're possibly
00:46:34
leaving. And so we don't even have the
00:46:36
school to, you know, educate the kids that are going to come live
00:46:40
in these high density housing places.
00:46:42
And again, like the water and then the roads and then they're
00:46:47
not repairing the roads and then they don't have parking for the
00:46:49
cars. And so that's why they're trying
00:46:51
to push us into public transit. Nobody wants to use public
00:46:53
transit because it's dirty and it's not safe.
00:46:56
And then they keep want to throw the funds at that.
00:46:57
And it's just like this whole domino effect of their really
00:47:00
bad decisions that they never, ever think past the one thing.
00:47:04
It's very frustrating. Again, earlier when we started
00:47:08
the conversation, we talked about Mayors Matter and how I've
00:47:11
gone to many, many cities across California, including Yorba
00:47:15
Linda. And there are lots of cities
00:47:18
that have really good urban planning.
00:47:21
And as long as they're not these unfunded mandates that upset
00:47:25
their urban planning, they're actually really well planned.
00:47:27
And some of them are 30 year plans, like, you know, Chula
00:47:29
Vista is a 30 year plan. And so if you take a 30 year
00:47:33
plan, you've planned structurally for the right
00:47:35
amount of water, drainage, utilities, sewage ingress,
00:47:39
egress, fire department, firemen, fire, fire hydrants,
00:47:44
fire department turnarounds and the right amount of schools, the
00:47:49
right amount of parking. So that's a really good, really
00:47:52
good urban planner will like lay out a city.
00:47:55
And then if you create another group of houses that you create
00:47:59
another scenario for that what happens with something like SP79
00:48:03
is you come in and you sort of upset the apple cart.
00:48:05
You're like, OK, we're going to add like 500 residents to your,
00:48:09
you know, 1500 residential plan. So we're going to increase it
00:48:13
by, you know, 20 foot percent or 25% that without increasing any
00:48:18
of the utility for that and without any increase for schools
00:48:21
or fire or whatever. And that's what happened in LA
00:48:23
And that's why you have the situation where you don't have
00:48:26
nearly enough safety officers or you have really bad streets.
00:48:28
I mean, look at our roads. It's the Pacific Palisades.
00:48:31
To be clear, you need a four wheel drive vehicle to drive
00:48:34
around. So it's not like you just have
00:48:36
to put the houses back. There's literally the roads are
00:48:39
are so bad. You can't drive anything up here
00:48:41
unless you're fully prepared to lose a tire.
00:48:44
I, the, the way that you fix that right is you, first of all,
00:48:52
you can't do anything without money.
00:48:55
Like let's be realistic. Nothing happens without money.
00:48:59
And so going back to the beginning, if we lose 122
00:49:03
billion in the, in the general fund, which is clearly happening
00:49:07
and we're not going to do anything to stop it because
00:49:09
Steiger and, and, and swallow and all those guys are like, tax
00:49:13
the billionaires. I don't know.
00:49:14
I don't know how they're employed.
00:49:16
I mean, most of those guys have paid their way, so I'm surprised
00:49:18
they're not still employed, but whatever.
00:49:20
It doesn't. We need to create something
00:49:23
different. We need a Better Business plan.
00:49:24
My idea is really solid. I have this inkling that
00:49:30
Californians want to do a lot more than they're given the
00:49:36
opportunity to do. I feel like Californians want to
00:49:39
work. I feel like Californians want to
00:49:41
have businesses. I feel like they want to own
00:49:44
homes and I feel like they want to have their power taken back.
00:49:48
And so I've been racking my brain on what would work for me.
00:49:54
So what is interesting is a several years ago, I was on a
00:49:58
job site of my own job set, but there was a guy there and he was
00:50:00
talking to my pool contractor and he owned or he worked at a
00:50:04
credit union. And he said to me, oh, are you
00:50:08
running the job? And I said, yes, he goes, I'm
00:50:09
looking for my pool contractor. I'm so and so from such and such
00:50:12
a bank, Premier America. It's a credit union.
00:50:15
He went over and he talked to the pool guy and he came back
00:50:17
and he gave me his card and he said, if you want to have, you
00:50:19
know, payroll or you want, if you need any banking needs,
00:50:21
please call me. And I have a big Bank of
00:50:24
America, Wells Fargo. I'm like, you know, private
00:50:27
banking, like living the life of Riley, big contractor.
00:50:31
And I'm like, I have a bank at a credit union.
00:50:34
Anyway. During COVID, Wells Fargo was
00:50:40
making my payroll guys stand out outside in the line.
00:50:43
And then after COVID, they still made them stand out in the line.
00:50:47
They didn't like them cashing checks in Brentwood.
00:50:51
And I got so pissed off, I drove over to Premier America and I
00:50:55
opened up a construction bank account at Premier America and I
00:50:59
decided I would make it a credit union, which I'd never done.
00:51:02
In a credit union, you're a member, and members of credit
00:51:05
unions have power. And not many private credit
00:51:10
unions exist. Like the Police Department has a
00:51:12
credit union, the fire department has a credit union,
00:51:14
there's teachers credit unions, there's nursing credit unions,
00:51:17
But generally Californians don't have their own credit union.
00:51:21
So I was like, we should have this Great American credit
00:51:24
union, the great credit union, California's greatest credit
00:51:27
union. And we get the billionaires that
00:51:30
are leaving the state to fund it in partnership with SBA.
00:51:35
Because they figured out that if we had taken the $122 billion
00:51:39
that comes in from those billionaires and invested in
00:51:44
California the following way, let's say we gave 244
00:51:49
businesses $500 each as a startup, we would have employed
00:51:56
over 2 million people. And those jobs would still be
00:52:00
existing today, probably 15 years, and all that money would
00:52:05
still be coming in. And no one would be able to
00:52:08
break it up on a business plan because instead of having it be
00:52:13
200 guys, it would be 244 businesses and 2 million
00:52:18
employees. And the problem is we've lost
00:52:22
the idea that we need a business plan in California.
00:52:25
We just wing it. And so I will form this credit
00:52:29
union with all these guys that are leaving and the SBA.
00:52:33
I've already met with SBA wants to be here.
00:52:35
Remember, Donald Trump is running around all over the
00:52:38
world saying I'm the greatest businessman ever.
00:52:41
I've got $18 trillion coming into the United States.
00:52:44
Not one penny of it is coming to California.
00:52:47
Not one penny. We are out of the conversation.
00:52:50
So we have no money coming in federally because there's no
00:52:53
business deals that are happening in California.
00:52:55
So the 18 trillion that's coming, that's going to make
00:52:57
America great again and it's going to be oh, so great is not
00:53:00
coming here. So we have to think of something
00:53:02
quick. And I think that the Great
00:53:05
American Credit Union is going to be born whether I'm governor
00:53:09
or not, I'm going to work on it because California's need the
00:53:12
opportunity to be able to borrow money and have businesses.
00:53:15
And two things have to happen. You have to have SBA willing to
00:53:19
do it and you have to get rid of all the red tape so they can
00:53:21
open businesses and trial lawyers have to stop creating
00:53:24
lawsuits in every single business that's open so that
00:53:26
they can keep those businesses open.
00:53:29
By the way, I think Blue played Oyster closed up on Ocean Ave.
00:53:32
I don't know if you guys caught that story doing like 12 million
00:53:35
a year. She closed because she.
00:53:37
Was I did hear. That yeah, she's like, I just
00:53:39
can't deal with it anymore. I don't want to like, move
00:53:41
homeless people every morning and and fight lawsuits because
00:53:45
somebody didn't want to work on Friday when they were on the
00:53:47
schedule. And they said that the reason
00:53:48
that I made them work on Friday was because they were, you know,
00:53:51
they were a single mom or whatever.
00:53:54
I discriminated against them. You know, I just, if people
00:53:57
can't, it's just not fair. And so we have to toughen up
00:54:00
California. We got to toughen.
00:54:01
We got to tighten our belt. I mean, it's not a weight loss
00:54:04
program, but it will remind you, tighten your belt, grow some
00:54:07
grit, you know, get some gifts, get down and get back to work.
00:54:11
If California works its way out of this thing, we'll be so much
00:54:14
better off in the long run. I mean, we won't be, we won't be
00:54:17
owned by, we're owned right now. We're owned by all of the
00:54:21
Democratic lobby people that are paying for them to be in office.
00:54:26
They own us. They don't just own the
00:54:28
Democrats guys. They own you.
00:54:30
They own you If the trial lawyers are paying them, the
00:54:33
trial lawyers own you. And if they, if you're not sure
00:54:37
about that, go out and ask about the 50% of businesses being in
00:54:41
lawsuits. Get like real clear, real fast.
00:54:44
They own you. And the only way to do it is to
00:54:47
just not take the money to say like, you know what?
00:54:50
I'd rather starve, thank you very much, because that's where
00:54:52
I'm at. I'd rather starve than take this
00:54:55
money. It's just like it's dirty and it
00:54:58
takes our power away. We're, we come, we're serfs, you
00:55:03
know, we're just slaves to it all.
00:55:05
And the way to do it is just just say no to it.
00:55:07
Just say I'm not doing it. I'm a true Californian.
00:55:10
I don't, I'm not afraid of hard work as long as I can, you know,
00:55:13
go to the beach and walk my dog and and go to the farmers market
00:55:17
and figure I'll be fine, thank you very much.
00:55:19
I don't need your money and your your legal power and your thumb
00:55:23
on me. Yeah, someone asked.
00:55:28
Did you talk to Irvine Mayor Larry Agron and your mayor?
00:55:31
I did, I did. He taught me the greatest thing,
00:55:36
he said. Elaine, it's not like governing.
00:55:42
Governing is not like running a company.
00:55:45
It's very different. Half of it is corporate, like
00:55:49
you are running a company, but the other half, the governing of
00:55:52
people, it's like being a best friend and really listening and
00:55:56
really doing your best to keep as many people in agreement with
00:56:01
you as possible. He really taught me a lot and I
00:56:04
have it all on tape because I interviewed him.
00:56:08
So are you for or against the billionaires tax that they're
00:56:11
trying to get on the ballot? I, I'm against it because,
00:56:17
because it's, it's too big of a blow to our, it's too big of a
00:56:24
blow to our economic development and our, our, our general fund.
00:56:30
If they, if they leave, which they're going to do, we
00:56:32
seriously won't be able to keep the lights on.
00:56:34
OK. So it's not possible.
00:56:36
It's not sustainable. We'll have to borrow money
00:56:38
federally, which we don't. So whoever the new governor is,
00:56:40
is in big trouble. That's what I'm saying.
00:56:42
Like you need a real macro economics governor that can
00:56:46
really think their way out of this.
00:56:48
So I'm against it. But in the long run, this is a
00:56:51
reminder, it's a wake up call for everybody.
00:56:54
We're dependent on these guys because the because
00:56:58
unfortunately, Sacramento has let this happen like they've let
00:57:02
us slip into the mouth of the shark, right?
00:57:04
And to get out of it, it's not so easy as just pulling back.
00:57:09
You know, you might have to kill the shark and gut it and come
00:57:12
out the other other side. I have a feeling we're in that
00:57:15
we're that far into it. I don't think it's actually even
00:57:19
going to pass, but because it's retroactive, it there's, it's
00:57:24
for they're leaving anyway because billionaires are smart
00:57:27
people, right? Their investment strategies are
00:57:29
between 9 and 26%. When we invested our, when Gavin
00:57:33
Newsom invested our retirement fund, we lost $71.
00:57:36
Like there's no investment strategy in in the Great
00:57:40
American credit Union idea, right?
00:57:42
I would utilize the billionaire's tax base to invest
00:57:45
$100 billion in their investment strategies so that we could have
00:57:49
dividend paying stock for once. How about that?
00:57:51
I mean, most Californians don't even know what that means, but
00:57:54
it literally you could have dividend paying stock if you're
00:57:57
properly invested in infrastructure, but we're not.
00:58:00
I mean, ironically, California is not going to fall into the
00:58:03
ocean because of earthquakes. It's going to fall into the
00:58:05
ocean because of lack of care for the infrastructure.
00:58:08
Complete and utter neglect, planned obsolescence.
00:58:12
Let it fall in and we'll buy it all back for nothing.
00:58:15
So I see your question, what is it?
00:58:19
No, I was, I was just going to, you can finish your point
00:58:22
because I had another point that I wanted to kind of sum up or or
00:58:26
everything you're talking about. OK, so wait, I could go on for
00:58:31
hours, OK. No, my point was I, I agree with
00:58:37
you. I, I think Californians and for
00:58:40
some reason Newsom's running around now, he must be listening
00:58:43
to this podcast because I say this all the time, is that we,
00:58:47
we need to get out of this scarcity mindset in California
00:58:52
and go. We need to have an abundance
00:58:54
mindset. And an abundance mindset is we
00:58:56
need to get rid of government regulations.
00:58:58
We need to allow people to open businesses.
00:59:00
We need to allow the entrepreneurs to do what they
00:59:03
need to do to create jobs, to create economic activity, to
00:59:06
bring that revenue into the state, into local cities, into
00:59:10
counties. That's how you kind of, it's
00:59:13
that old adage of a rising tide lifts all boats.
00:59:17
And there's so much opportunity in California between, you know,
00:59:21
our university system and the amount of, you know, brain power
00:59:26
we have of smart people here. We have Silicon Valley.
00:59:29
We have enormous natural resources that for some reason
00:59:33
we just neglect because we're so, you know, so beholden to the
00:59:38
idea of bowing at the altar of the Church of Climate Change
00:59:42
that will import oil from the Bahamas in China and everywhere
00:59:45
else. Yet we we're sitting on billions
00:59:48
of, of barrels of oil here in California that we could create
00:59:52
a booming oil industry, great blue collar jobs.
00:59:55
We could be creating this industry that helps so many
00:59:58
people. It's just like we need to throw
01:00:01
off these shackles of, of over government regulation and create
01:00:06
more of an abundance and more opportunity.
01:00:09
That's what I've always been saying.
01:00:10
So when you say something like that, it resonates with me
01:00:13
because I go, yeah, we need to throw off these shackles.
01:00:16
Like we're serfs and they're our Lords and they're lording over
01:00:20
us. There's so much potential here
01:00:23
and and we just feels like it's so tamped down by everything
01:00:28
from Sacramento. Sacramento is has strip mined
01:00:32
the entire municipal system. I mean, it's mind boggling.
01:00:38
First of all, there are just five 550 employees in
01:00:42
California that worked directly for the state, 225 during
01:00:45
Sacramento and then another 225 for the rest of the state.
01:00:49
And there's mayors across our state that make $800 a month.
01:00:53
But Sacramento takes the lying share of the fees.
01:00:55
I mean, if I was governor, I would cut Sacramento in half
01:00:57
maybe maybe even more than in half.
01:01:01
It's just not necessary. It's very, very fat with APH and
01:01:06
not functioning it. It needs to be, there needs to
01:01:10
be more hands on communication between Sacramento and the
01:01:16
cities for what they need. Like I don't want to hear from
01:01:19
mayors when I talk to them that when the phone rings from
01:01:21
Sacramento, they're like afraid to answer.
01:01:22
They're just like, oh God, you know, this is shouldn't be
01:01:26
happening. It should be the mayor of
01:01:27
Stockton was like, the only reason people came is because
01:01:30
there was a shooting. Like, meanwhile, you know, I
01:01:32
don't have a deep water port where I could have the biggest
01:01:34
shipyard in the country, literally.
01:01:37
And we don't have water. You talk about water, There's a
01:01:40
guy by the name of Ed Ring who is a policy writer for water,
01:01:44
who has written some of the most magical water policy that could
01:01:47
all be implemented, including dredging the Stockton boat, you
01:01:50
know, deep water port. And these policy ideas are not
01:01:54
just implementable, they save California.
01:01:57
But there's too many people involved in the other side of
01:02:02
the coin, which is to not let the water flow flow freely.
01:02:07
And they are again, lobbyists and special interest nonprofit
01:02:12
and NGOs on the sides of the parties, funding the parties to
01:02:17
to maintain this power. And we have been deluded into
01:02:22
thinking that the Republicans and the Democrats are somehow
01:02:26
omniscient and going to solve all these problems when right
01:02:29
before our eyes they are failing.
01:02:32
And it's they can't get along. They've completely lost the
01:02:36
plot. And you need a revolution.
01:02:38
You honestly need a revolution. I call for a revolution.
01:02:41
I'll probably get in trouble for that.
01:02:42
But you just need like to get behind somebody with common
01:02:45
interests like that just says, I see a way out of this.
01:02:48
Let's just keep walking until we get there.
01:02:51
Like, don't get distracted. Do not get distracted by
01:02:54
transit. Transit children.
01:02:56
Do not do not get distracted by hiding immigrants.
01:02:59
These are small sections of a very, very big problem.
01:03:03
There's no money because there's nobody earning money, because
01:03:07
there's not enough jobs, because we've allowed two hundred guys
01:03:11
to pay half the money. Half, 5047%.
01:03:15
So California is going to have 17 and a half million taxpayers
01:03:21
that are going to be paying less than half of what we need into
01:03:25
the general fund. Less than half of what?
01:03:29
We need we got to make up for. We got.
01:03:31
To make up for it somewhere. We got to fill it, 2 million
01:03:33
jobs. My goal would be 2 million jobs
01:03:35
by the end of my term, 2 million jobs.
01:03:37
And I would start on the very first day and SBA is standing at
01:03:41
the door knocking and they have SBA LA, they have SBA San Diego,
01:03:45
they have and that's federal funding.
01:03:47
And all you need is a business plan.
01:03:50
And if you have a credit union and you have advisors that can
01:03:53
help you write a business plan, help you find a location, if you
01:03:56
have a real estate division, if you have like kind lending where
01:03:59
you can, you know, kind lending is a great aggregator of Fannie
01:04:02
Mae and and Freddie Mac loans. And you could get your first
01:04:05
time time homebuyers deal done and you have your bank
01:04:08
supporting you on your payment plan and your down payment.
01:04:11
I mean, think of all the things you could do if you just worked
01:04:14
as a unit instead of without agency, which is what we're
01:04:19
doing. We're operating like, oh God,
01:04:21
who's going to save us? Nobody, OK, Nobody on the
01:04:25
Democrats and nobody on the Republicans is going to come and
01:04:27
save you. Or you want oil and gas back,
01:04:30
You got to go find somebody that wants to do it.
01:04:32
You got to get rid of the red tape for them, and you got to
01:04:34
bring them in. Valero paid a billion dollars to
01:04:37
leave. Like we need to intersect that
01:04:40
now. Go to Valero, lobby them, gives
01:04:42
a billion dollars back, we'll get it approved.
01:04:45
We can't, we cannot rebuild a refinery.
01:04:47
Once they leave and they shut it down.
01:04:49
It's like moving the Titanic. If they empty the pipeline, it
01:04:52
breaks. They have to put a new one.
01:04:54
Why is fuel oil bubbling up a Newport Beach?
01:04:57
I mean, it's trying to get out and they won't do anything about
01:04:59
it. It's insane to me.
01:05:02
What are we afraid of? Oil.
01:05:03
Wasn't the Beverly Hillbillies about that?
01:05:05
Like oil Gold. That is black gold, Remember
01:05:09
that? Was it what the Beverly
01:05:10
Hillbillies was about? That's literally the premise of
01:05:13
the show, is that they moved to Beverly.
01:05:14
Yeah, they, they discovered you can look at old pictures of LA
01:05:18
and Hunting Beach and see the oil rigs like LA was made.
01:05:23
I know people in LA don't want to hear this.
01:05:24
All the people who go to, you know, no offense to anyone who
01:05:28
goes to Erawan and stuff like that, The people who think
01:05:30
they're big climate activists. LA was built on oil money.
01:05:35
You know, the Gettys, all of that.
01:05:36
Like that's what made LA all brought in all the money.
01:05:39
Hollywood, the glitz, the glamour, all that.
01:05:41
That was oil money. It was oil was everywhere in LA.
01:05:45
Go look it up. Just Google Los Angeles oil
01:05:48
wells, like historical photos. We are coming up on the hour.
01:05:53
And like you said, we could probably talk for a long, long
01:05:55
time, but she has to come. Back from Part 2 for sure.
01:05:58
You have to come back from Part 2, if that's OK with you.
01:06:03
Couple questions before we leave.
01:06:05
A couple of people are already asking where can they get
01:06:07
involved and volunteer for your campaign.
01:06:10
And I guess this can wrap up with sort of your closing
01:06:14
statement, where can people go find you, like support you and
01:06:18
all that stuff? So I recently changed my
01:06:22
Instagram from lipstick farmer. By the way, I'm a farmer to
01:06:28
Culotti CULOTTI, Culotti for governor.com and you can reach
01:06:34
me there and there's you can also go on to the website.
01:06:37
You can donate. Like I said, I don't care if
01:06:38
it's a dollar because it's all about engagement.
01:06:42
You can also DM me on on Instagram.
01:06:45
You can still find me on Lipstick farmer on Instagram,
01:06:47
but my followers are, are on Culotti for governor.
01:06:52
And yeah, I'm in. But most of the time I'm in the
01:06:55
Palisades. A lot of times I'm in San Diego
01:06:57
County. Anybody that wants to host a
01:06:59
party or town hall, I don't care if it's five people or 50 people
01:07:02
or 500 or 5000. I like to meet people and shake
01:07:05
hands and talk to people in the face so I can see what you need.
01:07:09
And I if I don't know it, I'll earn it.
01:07:12
I mean, you know, I'm, I'm pretty quick study, I'm really
01:07:16
kind of a problem solver and I'd love to have a huge coalition so
01:07:22
that everyone can, can be part of it.
01:07:24
And, and so you're not really voting for me at all.
01:07:26
It has nothing to do with me, but rather it's all about us and
01:07:28
California and 1 California uniting California.
01:07:32
California needs to get out from underneath these people.
01:07:34
They're killing us. It's like we're, we're, we're in
01:07:36
deep shit. We got it.
01:07:38
We got to move, we got to get, we got to get mobilized.
01:07:42
Yeah, that's for sure. We need to get people and across
01:07:46
spectrums. That's why I think you know it.
01:07:49
It's got to stop being the tribalistic whatever team red or
01:07:53
team blue, it's it's we've got to be adults and go what fixes
01:07:57
this state. That's the most important thing.
01:07:59
Let's stop pretending we it's all about the scorecard and
01:08:03
who's winning and is it red team or blue team or something like
01:08:05
that. So Elaine, it was amazing having
01:08:09
you on. I think we could probably have a
01:08:10
Part 2 and probably a part three with conversations.
01:08:13
And you're in San Diego County. So I think maybe we should
01:08:16
organize like an in person podcast.
01:08:18
I think that would be a lot of fun.
01:08:19
Oh my God, that'd be amazing. You could come to, you guys
01:08:21
could come to the ranch. It'd be fun if you could.
01:08:23
I have a huge farm and, you know, we farm raw vegetables and
01:08:26
we do CSA, about two or three thousand, I think, boxes a month
01:08:31
for the schools. And I'm, I'm in trouble in San
01:08:34
Diego. I have a violation because my
01:08:35
sign's too big and because we sometimes sell goat milk, I'm
01:08:39
always in trouble, which is crazy, right?
01:08:41
Yeah, goat. Yeah, well, we have we sell goat
01:08:44
milk. Yeah, we have goat sheep.
01:08:49
There's lots of lots of different like like not very
01:08:51
much of anything like like I think I have like 40 chickens
01:08:53
maybe. But it's, it's the point is
01:08:56
like, I have a farm stand and it's really funny how San Diego
01:09:00
County are always on me about the sign and like, you know, I'm
01:09:03
like, don't you guys have like bigger fish to fry than some
01:09:06
farm stand in Fallbrook? Like literally, are you kidding
01:09:09
me? I guess not, no.
01:09:12
In San Diego, kind of. They're they're obsessed with
01:09:13
some weird things. Yeah.
01:09:15
And I've never tried goat milk. I hear good things about goat
01:09:17
milk. I've tried raw milk, big raw
01:09:19
milk fan, but goat milk have not tried goat milk.
01:09:22
So yeah, maybe that could be the in person podcast.
01:09:25
We'll come up to the the ranch and have an in person.
01:09:27
Oh my God. I would love to entertain you.
01:09:29
We could actually have a big audience and we could play some
01:09:31
music. I'll get Tim Hockenberry going
01:09:32
and making some noise. It'll be.
01:09:34
Fun. There we go.
01:09:34
Yeah, that that'll be fun. We can have a longer podcast, do
01:09:37
it in person and listeners will. Cuddle your chickens.
01:09:40
Oh, Oh my gosh. I'll you can take home a little
01:09:42
baby chick coming. No, I can't.
01:09:45
If we do it soon. If we do it soon.
01:09:49
Camille, Camille had chickens, unfortunately, but sensitive
01:09:54
topic for Camille We we, we know about her chickens, but she's
01:09:58
been a chicken mom for a while, so she just lost her chickens.
01:10:01
So I'm. Sorry.
01:10:03
You're you're bribing her with baby chicks so she might
01:10:05
actually come all the way down from Orange Cat to her.
01:10:07
Baby chick. Don't tell me I could take a
01:10:08
chick because I'll take 50 chicks so.
01:10:11
Yeah, I think you should. So Elaine, thank you again so
01:10:15
much like everyone go check her out Kalati for governor on
01:10:20
Instagram. You can also just Google it, get
01:10:22
her website and all that stuff. And with that, thank you for
01:10:27
everyone for tuning in. Make sure you like share,
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01:10:41
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01:10:42
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