In this episode of the California Underground, Phil and Camille discuss the thwarted New Year's Eve terrorist attack by the Turtle Island Liberation Front, a radical group with anti-government and anti-capitalist views. They explore the group's motivations, the FBI's involvement, and the broader implications of domestic terrorism. The conversation also touches on California's political landscape, including potential 2028 presidential candidates Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris, and the state's unique cultural traits. The hosts end on a lighter note, discussing California stereotypes and lifestyle habits.
Original air date 12.16.25
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Are we hurtling towards a Gavin versus Kamala face off in 2028
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for the Democratic nominee? Also, the FBI thwarted a New
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Year's Eve attack that was planned to happen here in
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Southern California. And also to end on a light note,
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this evening we're going to talk about what do Californians do
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with all of their spare time because they did a study and
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found out all that and more on tonight's episode of the
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California Underground, starting right now.
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What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of the California Underground.
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I am your host, Phil. Tonight is the last night of
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the, well, last show of the year for us us.
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We got a lot to talk about, including a terrorist attack
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that was thwarted by the FBI and Gavin and Newsom and Gavin
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Newsom and Kamala might be facing off and we'll see how
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that goes. California versus California.
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But before we again, if you're tuning in live, make sure you
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And as always, joining me, my trusty Co host, the best, the
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fastest researcher in the West, Camille.
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What's going on, Camille? Not much getting ready for
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Christmas. It doesn't look like it behind
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me but there's like 7 boxes where I'm still trying to find
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my stockings. So really quick question for you
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and the chat. Yep.
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Holiday foods, do you guys have a favorite that you like make
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every year? Do you have like a family meal?
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You and your wife do something? And also the questions for you
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guys in the chat share, give us ideas.
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I'm not really foodie, but I actually do love food.
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But you know, I'm always open to new things.
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So Phil, you and then anyone in the chat.
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That's tough. We may have to come back to it
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at the end of the show. I'll think about.
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It you did start making eggnog a couple weeks ago, so I.
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Did I made boozy eggnog? It's been aging.
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It has three types of alcohol, bourbon, rum and Brandy, and
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it's delicious. We made a whole bunch of it and
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we've been given out to people and people love it so.
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But Speaking of Christmas fried. Eggnog.
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OK, sorry. Continue.
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Someone said rib eye. Rib eye is a great choice for
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any time of day or any occasion. That's a good one.
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Big announcement for Christmas because we will be taking these
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next two weeks off because of the holidays.
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We won't be back until 2026. That's why I said this is our
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last episode or last show of the year.
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He threw a little Christmas present for everybody in the
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chat. I pin the link if you go there.
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We're giving away two weeks free to the members only Telegram.
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So that way you can keep up with us.
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Camille and I will still be posting plenty of California
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news and thoughts. We have been posting stuff that
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may be cultural as well, like national politics.
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Like we're just like I threw we, we're discussing the what was
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the story today about Trump and his chief of staff kind of
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throwing everybody under the bus.
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That was the story, you know, stories about Candace Owens and
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all that crazy stuff. So the stuff we don't get to
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hear on the show, we're doing a lot of that in the telegram.
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It'll give you 2 weeks. I don't think it requires you to
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So that way we stay connected. There'll still be content being
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posted on the YouTube channel. We just won't be doing the live
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show for the next couple weeks. So it's pretty usual for a lot
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of places anyway. So it looks like the chat
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greetings from San Diego. What's up?
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San Diego E Lake, California, Let us know in the chat.
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We love to hear wherever you're tuning in from, California or
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the rest of the country or the world possibly.
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So all right, let's get into our first story of the night.
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This kind of came out of nowhere.
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This story broke a couple of days ago.
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There was a terrorist plot, a domestic terrorist plot by a far
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left radical group where we're going to discuss, we're going to
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inform you everybody, everything about them and who they are.
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They're the Turtle Island Liberation Front, both for
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short. They were thwarted because they
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planned a huge attack on Southern California.
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So it was parts of LA, parts of Orange County for New Year's
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Eve. So they were planning this big
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tack. And the FBII know, whatever you
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think about Bondi or Cash Patel, about the Epstein files, well,
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they did get this right. So they did get this right, and
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they did thwart this. So let's watch that video right
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now and we'll discuss afterwards and dive into who these people
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are and, well, how kooky they really are.
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A terror takedown. Prosecutors have charged four
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members of an alleged extremist group accused of plotting New
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Year's Eve bombings in California.
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Eyewitness News reporter Carlos Grande is live in Westwood with
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new details from this morning's news conference.
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Carlos. Well, that's right.
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Federal authorities say they stopped the New Year's Eve
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terror plot involving Southern California, and four people are
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now under arrest. The FBI says the suspects had a
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plan to carry out simultaneous bombings on New Year's Eve using
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backpacks rigged with improvised explosive devices.
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Now, here you see some surveillance video.
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Officials say it's the suspects as they plan to build and test
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the bombs. This was in Lucerne Valley.
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And shortly after this video was taken, the suspects were
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arrested. Now, they're allegedly part of a
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group called the Turtle Island Liberation Front, and they're
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identified as Audrey Carroll, Zachary Page, Tina Ley, and
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Dante Gaffield. Officials would not release any
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information about the target locations, only saying that they
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are logistics companies engaged in Interstate and commerce.
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Now, investigators are also looking into online activity
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connected to the case. An Instagram account known as
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the Turtle Liberation publicly posted content advocating
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violence against U.S. officials. And according to the FBI, a
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recent post called for a revolution and urged reporters
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to organize and be ready. Officials say they also find
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items that said death to America and Long live Palestine.
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These bombs were to blow up at the same time on midnight this
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New Year's Eve. The plan stated that the IDs
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would be complex pipe bombs. It included instructions on how
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to manufacture the bombs and contain guidance on how to avoid
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leaving evidence behind that could be traced back to them.
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Now, officials say there are more members to this group, but
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they believe they have arrested all of those who were
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specifically involved in this New Year's Eve plot.
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The suspects are expected to make their first appearance in
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court sometime this afternoon. Reporting live from Westwood,
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I'm Carlos Grande, ABC7 Eyewitness News.
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All right, so there is this domestic terror plot for New
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Year's Eve. And, you know, this is kind of
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crazy. This is happening.
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They're not connected as far as we know.
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They're not connected to what happened in Bondi Beach, which
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was also a terrible terrorist attack.
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Rise of terrorist attacks recently.
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Not not a trend that yeah, I'm not a fan of terrorist attacks
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coming back. Like maybe I'm nostalgic for
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like Avicii levels coming back in style, but like, not
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terrorist attacks. So I'm going to pull up this
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article because goes into a little bit more about this
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group. So let's pull this up right now.
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Sorry it takes a little second here and all right, so this is
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from the New York Post. What is Turtle Island Liberation
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Front, the extremist anti government group whose offshoot
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planned a New Year's Eve terror attack.
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Let's see, this is a video. We're going to get into that in
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a little bit. The Turtle Island Liberation
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Front, a little known quote, pro Palestine, anti law enforcement
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and anti government extremist group has quietly been raising
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funds and resources to usher in a revolutionary change in
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government. I bet you're going to find out
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who's been giving these people money because if you're funding
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these people and it turns out they're domestic terrorists, I
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don't think the FBI is going to take too kindly to it,
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especially Bill Asailley, who is the US attorney, pseudo US
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attorney. He's not technically the US
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attorney. He's the highest ranking
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prosecutor in the federal prosecutor's office in the
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Central District. Quote.
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Tilf also calls for the working class to rise up and fight back
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against capitalism and FBI affidavit noted.
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Moreover, Tilf advocates that liberalism and peaceful protests
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will be the downfall of those who believe is enough, and that
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direct action is the only way. What does Turtle Island come
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from? In case you're wondering, what
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the hell does Turtle Island mean?
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It's an indigenous term, particularly among the.
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I am going to butcher the heck out of this name, so apologies
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to whoever these tribes are. ABI and Khoden Sauni.
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I think that sounds pretty close for the continent of North
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America. It stems from tales about the
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continent being built on the back of a giant turtle.
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There's one of their posts right there.
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Resistance is the deepest form of love.
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That name, which predates the US, dovetails with the extremist
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groups goals of eliminate America, which it feels is
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illegitimate. Tilf has taken the concept to
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the extreme while mixing a push for decolonization of North
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America and of Israel. So not just North America.
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Its members have used phrases such as from Turtle Island to
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Palestine, occupation is a crime to convey that mix.
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When we say death to America and call for end to colonization, it
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doesn't mean the displacement or harm of non indigenous citizens.
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And then talks about how they shout out death to ice.
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Here's the people again. Members of the splinter group
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handed an 8 page memo on Operation Midnight Sun.
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I feel like these people are like Larping to be terrorists to
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be completely honest. I was going to say that because
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I don't want to take this lightly, but when I was reading
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this article I do feel I like it.
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To me just sounds like teenagers who were asked to like write the
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plot to a terrorist attack movie and this is what they came up
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with. Right.
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Four members of the Order of the Black Lotus Hutry, Elaine
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Carroll, Zachary Aaron Page, Dante Garfield and Tina Ley,
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were charged with possession of an unregistered destructive
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device and conspiracy. And there's a fifth suspect who
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has not yet been identified. Both Carol and Page have been
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contemplating follow up attacks such as target targeting
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents with pipe
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bombs, hoping it would, quote, make some of them out and scare
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the rest, would take some of them out and scare the rest for
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the complaint. Quote, I kind of had this
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notebook where I wrote down multiple plans that never
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happened or got delayed. So it's like my terrorist diary
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LMAOI have to get rid of that. Wrote in a signal exchange with
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the FBI source. So it sounds like someone was
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working on the inside for the FBI with this.
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What are your initial thoughts of this before we go check them
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out first hand? Of thoughts one there there is a
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part of me that kind of wishes I didn't know this I think because
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Orange County is relatively safe whatever like nothing big ever
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happens here and which maybe because they keep stopping it
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but like I I like my safe Orange County bubble, you know and so
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now it's like I know that this could have possibly happened and
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I'm very grateful it was stopped but there is this part of me
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that's like maybe I maybe I like to not knowing about it.
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This group confuses me like we just discussed like you said,
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they they seem like they're just Larping like it.
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It really does feel like some role-playing game where because
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part of it feels so amateurish, but they were serious.
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I mean there's a video of them out like testing things in the
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desert and stuff, but I'm confused at their all their
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beliefs because it just feels like they just hate everyone.
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They're anti government and you and I get that, but we're not
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like we're not kill the government, we're just sort of
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fired the government. It's less because they have less
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of them. We don't want to hurt anybody.
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But then they're anti capitalism and capitalism is often the left
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is like the enemy of the government.
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And so I like who whose side are you on here?
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Nobody. They're just they just seem
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angry and they just want to take ever wanted anything down.
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So those are my initial thoughts.
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They're like if you put into AI like create the most radical
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leftist like this is what it feels like.
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Like it feels like they they want destruction to Israel and
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America and their reasoning is because of colonization and they
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want to decolonize America and because this is stolen land.
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And like they, you know, they're the people who are like we have
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to acknowledge we're standing on stolen land, which always makes
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me laugh. The whole stolen land idea.
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Yes. So that it does feel kind of
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amateurish. It doesn't seem like they are
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these high like highly sophisticated terrorists.
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It doesn't this is probably something the FBI easily cracked
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in on. Just goes to show you that feds
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are everywhere, which is kind of scary is that they snuck into
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this group and infiltrated this group, but somehow there was an
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informant on the inside. So I want to go to the actual
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source material for them so we can get a better idea straight
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from their mouth about what they believe.
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And we're going to watch some of the videos and then we'll
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comment on them as well. So this is from the Turtle
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Island Liberation Front, LA. Here's a video right here.
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Let's see what she has to say. This lovely young lady with
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whatever this thing is on her head.
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People are learning Palestine is the true name of Israel, right?
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Israel that is, was a nation in 19 6 by the Zionists.
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It's the same with Turtle Island.
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That was what the original tribes on the Americas before it
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was called America. It was known as Turtle Island
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because believe it or not, if you look at the map rather calm
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down the bottom up that map of the Americas, it looks like a
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turtle. And so that's what the natives
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called it was Turtle Island. So that's the decolonized.
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Name of. The Americas and Turtle Island
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is looking for reparations and land back for these indigenous
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groups in which the land was observed many people.
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Think it's. So far removed.
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But I have many comrades who are Native American and have stories
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of just their great grandmother, just their great grandmother,
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residential schools. It's still impacting the most
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recent generations. OK, it's not.
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That was a whole bunch of gobbledygook that I didn't
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really understand. Did the Native Americans have
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drones so they were able to see that it was shaped like a
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turtle? Yeah, I don't.
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That was a good question. Like, how did the Native
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Americans know that North America was shaped like AI?
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Guess they mapped it. I don't know.
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Maybe they mapped it out by SAP. But did all Native Americans
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understand SAP? I don't know.
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I don't know how they got to the old Turtle Island thing.
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I am no history expert, especially of Native Americans,
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but they had their tribes throughout the Americas.
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But as far as I know, most of them were enemies and kind of
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kept their distance. And so I've tried to picture
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them all coming together to create this map.
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Not the point of the subject, but this Turtle Island thing.
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It just feels like one of those kind of like wives tales, this
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that's been passed down maybe or wasn't even passed down, just
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kind of came about at some point because they're like, This is
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why? And I'm like, they didn't and
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they didn't have like aerial views, no, a few 100 years ago.
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And I don't know the history of Native Americans, whether they
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were sailing around the entire continent of North America to
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know how to map all of North America.
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So I let us. Know on the chat cuz maybe I
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just asked a really dumb question.
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Maybe people in the chat know how they understood it was
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Turtle Island, but there was so many things in there.
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Like her points are all over the place again, to the point that
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like, these are radicals who are basically like AI parody spoofs
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of a radical leftist. Is it?
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They jump from like Native Americans to comrades to free
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Palestine, to Israel, to death to Israel, to all of this stuff.
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And it's like, these are real people.
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These are real people who thankfully were not successful
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in bombing any of these places or hurting anybody, but they're
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they've been radicalized somehow by these these groups.
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This is a larger organization, the Turtle Island, whatever you
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call it, Liberation Front. This is just the LA chapter,
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what we're looking at right now. So this is the group that has
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been thwarted. So there's some more videos on
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there as well. This is another, I don't know
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what this is. This is gosh, I'm sorry about
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that. If they hurt you, they hurt me
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too. Our destinies are intertwined.
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Liberation for one must mean liberation for all.
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The empire must fall in from within the belly of the beast.
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We must be the ones to dismantle it.
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Revolution is the only way. Stop peaceful protesting.
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Rise up, fight back. We are outnumbered.
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They are organized. And be ready again.
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With AI, you don't have to, you don't have to have these types
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of like drawings. You can get like AI to draw
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these drawings. So that is some I don't know, I
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mean. Special.
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It's special. Here's a picture of them
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protesting. Maybe not.
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There was a good picture of them so you can see right here.
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Death to ice. I think it has.
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That's Trump in the background, something in Arabic.
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The funniest thing I do want to show about this is if you look
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at the comments. The comments are cracking me up.
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Are you in jail now? Lock them up.
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This is the good fellas. Get where they're laughing at
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him. Why don't you all move to the
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Eastern hemisphere instead of continuing to live on?
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Quote stolen land. Have fun in fed prison.
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Delulu of the 1st order. Bring back mental institutions.
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This one of $0.50 laughing and driving off.
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Wow, the insanity is real. This is not the engagement I
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think they were planning when they opened this account.
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Oh here's your question. Do the natives have a satellite
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that allowed them to look at the continent upside down?
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Is there a is there any reply that tells us literally what I
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was thinking? That's just one of the many
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things she said which is absurdly wrong or a lie.
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As a native, this is generalized information that is not true.
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It's misleading overall. We are not grouped with
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Palestine whatsoever. Some tribes called North
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America. Turtle Island is not because of
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the shape. But the story of how the land
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formed, which was on the back of a turtle, he held the world up
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so that he could live on this land.
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This is summarized because I'm not going to sit here and tell
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you the whole story. In addition, only a few tribes
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carried these stories. Most did not, such as my people,
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which is the three different nations of people.
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We all had different stories on how North America was created,
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some of them sharing similar stories and some very different.
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There you go. So it has nothing to do with
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them knowing that it's looks like an island.
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It's just they believed that they that's how the world was
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formed was on the back of an island.
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The 10 teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle eyes don't lie.
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She's a turtle. All right, there was another
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video I wanted to show as well. Let's see if I can find is
00:20:58
there. I don't know, I think that was
00:21:00
the best video we had. Oh, here we go.
00:21:02
This one is real cringe so buckle up.
00:21:33
OK, tough guys. You know what's?
00:21:36
Really thought about that is you know that when whoever created
00:21:39
that, they were like, oh, that's fun.
00:21:41
Yeah, it's fine. We totally, we killed it, guys.
00:21:44
We nailed it again with a little bit of gumshay and a little bit
00:21:48
of work. You your your content doesn't
00:21:51
have to look this bad like it was created in the 90s.
00:21:54
Like you could do good content if you actually took the time to
00:21:59
do it. Call to action.
00:22:01
The bloody war criminals known as the Albit Systems are
00:22:04
planning to install their AI into the Koreatown neighborhoods
00:22:07
of Los Angeles. We cannot allow this.
00:22:09
Join us in protest against these genocide monsters.
00:22:12
Air block with Ohio, Is that the thing on their head?
00:22:16
I guess CAFE and if you have one and bring Palestinian flags.
00:22:21
December 3rd, 19 or December 3rd, 9:00 AM.
00:22:25
All right, they just wake up angry.
00:22:27
They literally are like, today we're going to protest this.
00:22:32
We're going to protest this. On Twitter and I don't like it.
00:22:34
So, you know, show up. Yeah, it also the this always
00:22:41
makes me laugh because she was holding in the first video, that
00:22:45
Lady was holding the Mexican flag.
00:22:49
And anybody who knows like Californian history knows that
00:22:51
they always say, oh, it's stolen land.
00:22:53
California has stolen land from Mexico.
00:22:56
No, there was a war. There was a conflict.
00:22:59
America won. And then we even paid $15
00:23:04
million for California. Now, maybe that was a bargain
00:23:07
and maybe Mexico should have bargained better for all the
00:23:10
land that they gave up. Stolen, though, is quite a
00:23:14
stretch when you win a war. Offered citizenship to them.
00:23:18
Yeah, So it, it wasn't stolen in the sense that Americans just
00:23:22
showed up and were like, it's ours now.
00:23:25
So yeah, it's ours now. Sorry.
00:23:27
Mexico. Like there was a conflict and
00:23:29
they they couldn't keep up with it.
00:23:31
The the Mexican economy was worried.
00:23:34
They couldn't keep up with the war because it was costing them
00:23:36
too much money to fight America. And they surrendered.
00:23:40
That's the Treaty of Guadalupe. I believe it is.
00:23:44
My history is correct. So all right, so that's the
00:23:47
Turtle Island Liberation Front. I don't know if people feel
00:23:51
better knowing that, like that's who was behind this or worse,
00:23:56
like, I don't know. Let me know in the chat if you
00:23:57
feel like they probably would have never gotten anything off
00:24:01
the ground based on their Instagram and their stories and
00:24:04
how they think. Maybe that helps you sleep
00:24:06
better at night knowing these like Larping far leftists don't
00:24:11
really have a clue. They're not well organized.
00:24:13
It is kind of scary, though, that the FBI did have to go in
00:24:17
and thwart them and and stop them from planting bombs in
00:24:20
Southern California because it would be a tragedy if even,
00:24:24
like, one life was harmed because of these crazies.
00:24:28
And yeah. So what are your thoughts on the
00:24:33
Turtle Island Liberation Front? Do you think they're going to
00:24:35
rise to the level of like Antifa in terms of influence in
00:24:39
America, or do you think this is the this is a fraternal island
00:24:42
Liberation Front? Possibly ended here.
00:24:46
I do think if if they had been able to carry out anything, it
00:24:50
would have been like I'm sure some things would have gone not
00:24:54
you say the word better in the sense of better as far as
00:24:57
accomplishing what they wanted to accomplish.
00:24:58
I feel like it would have been so chaotic that they would have
00:25:01
had like a few duds, but then a few successes.
00:25:03
So, you know, of course I'm grateful.
00:25:06
I OK, I think I'm becoming like a conspiracy theorist and I
00:25:11
apologize for my voice. My sinuses are always jacked up.
00:25:15
There is a part of me that's like what?
00:25:19
And I don't do this. OK, I but I'm doing it.
00:25:23
What is the FBI tried to distract us from that?
00:25:26
They're bringing this up because again, this feels so amateurish
00:25:30
to me that I feel like they're giving us like they're trying to
00:25:33
give us something on a plate. Like look, we're doing things,
00:25:36
we're accomplishing things, but I'm like, what is actually going
00:25:39
on that you're not in the background and behind the scenes
00:25:43
bigger groups that you're like not able to figure out or
00:25:48
whatever. If I'm sorry if I'm not making
00:25:50
sense, I just feel like like they wanted to give us a little
00:25:54
cookie to like appease us of like see we do things.
00:26:01
Actually someone brought this up.
00:26:02
This is interesting fact that I learned when I visited Mexico
00:26:07
City is that there were U.S. troops who made it all the way
00:26:11
to to Mexico City and there is a castle in Mexico City.
00:26:18
Fun fact, there was a castle because there was a Emperor of
00:26:22
Mexico for a little bit. He was actually Austrian.
00:26:24
They brought him in and it was the idea of it was Napoleon's,
00:26:31
not the original Napoleon. Like Napoleon's great nephew
00:26:35
sent an Austrian to Mexico to try and influence Mexico to be a
00:26:39
part of like the French Empire. And there was a castle.
00:26:44
And then the US troops made it all the way down to this castle.
00:26:47
It wasn't for the emperor anymore.
00:26:49
It was like a training base for troops at that time.
00:26:51
It's kind of like their West Point.
00:26:53
But I, I had never heard of that.
00:26:55
And I was surprised when I toured that castle and they
00:26:58
talked about the story about how U.S. troops showed up and
00:27:01
actually attacked the castle. I was like, wow, I didn't know
00:27:04
U.S. troops actually made it all the way Mexico City.
00:27:06
My understanding was the fight, the fight was basically right
00:27:10
around Texas, not anywhere close to Mexico City.
00:27:13
But yeah, they made it all the way to, to all the way down to
00:27:16
Mexico City. I yeah, your conspiracy theory
00:27:22
might be well founded. Maybe they're just trying to
00:27:25
show that they're doing something.
00:27:27
I mean, stuff like this, conspiracy theories, terrorist
00:27:29
groups, it's always a nice big win.
00:27:31
It's a good press conference to show that you're on the case
00:27:36
does make you feel a little bit better, especially with how much
00:27:39
people have not been trusting Pam Bondi, Cash Patel.
00:27:43
I wouldn't say Bill Acaley. I think Bill Acaley has been
00:27:45
doing like a rock star job up in LA, like just absolutely
00:27:48
exposing so much corruption when it comes to homelessness and the
00:27:52
the funds and all the corruption that's going on up there.
00:27:57
So it maybe it's just nice that they're, they got a little win
00:28:00
and FBI was all excited that they want to tell everybody they
00:28:02
got this win. Of course there's a lot of other
00:28:05
things going on out there in the world that I'm sure the FBI is
00:28:08
is involved in. But it is, it is nice, I think
00:28:13
maybe a little bit comforting to know that the FBI is on this
00:28:15
stuff and they are still looking out for terrorism.
00:28:17
Another thing that was interesting was I don't know if
00:28:21
this is connected to, there was an executive order signed by
00:28:25
President Trump earlier this year where he labeled groups
00:28:28
like Antifa domestic terrorists. So once you label them domestic
00:28:33
terrorists, then all of a sudden that expands the power of the
00:28:37
law enforcement that can go after these groups and how they
00:28:40
can kind of infiltrate and break up these groups.
00:28:43
So I, I wonder if that was part of this was this executive order
00:28:48
that kind of expanded the power of the FBI to go out and find
00:28:52
these domestic terrorist groups, infiltrate them, break them up
00:28:55
and kind of crack down on them. So who knows, maybe that
00:29:00
executive order ended up working in the end, maybe not for
00:29:03
Antifa, but Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:29:07
It's too long of a name. I'm sorry, you know, for
00:29:09
marketing purposes. It's too long of a it's too
00:29:11
confusing. People are like, what the hell
00:29:13
is Turtle Island? I don't get it.
00:29:15
So maybe this is the end of Turtle Island Liberation Front.
00:29:20
Maybe, maybe it isn't. Maybe this is just the
00:29:23
beginning. Maybe this is the best
00:29:24
recruiting tool they could get is these people will be martyrs
00:29:27
and martyrs in the sense they'll go to prison and they'll be like
00:29:31
jailed martyrs. Hopefully not other type of
00:29:34
martyrs, but maybe more people will join and they'll be more
00:29:38
stories. Hopefully not.
00:29:39
I really hope there isn't. So, any other thoughts on Turtle
00:29:43
Island Liberation Front before we move on to our next story?
00:29:47
Yeah, real quick. Sure.
00:29:49
Going back to Palestine, Yeah. You know, right now the big
00:29:52
thing is free Palestine, but there's so many these, you know,
00:29:58
alleged bomb threats, these terrorist groups, rallies,
00:30:02
putting a lot of violence over the free Palestine thing.
00:30:07
And I've just going back to like 25 years ago ish when the big
00:30:12
thing was free to bet, but I don't remember everyone getting
00:30:15
violent over it. I also don't know that they were
00:30:17
really freed to bet. My sister was living in Tibet at
00:30:21
the time. So this is kind of like not, not
00:30:24
that it makes me an expert, but I was paying attention to it
00:30:26
because it was a big deal and my sister lived there.
00:30:32
I just wonder why the Palestine thing has become so violent and
00:30:36
polarizing. Tibet was like a huge deal, but
00:30:42
people didn't get violent over it, or at least it's not here as
00:30:45
far as I know. We weren't having these like
00:30:47
mass shootings and threats and bombings and like separation of
00:30:51
people over Tibet. So it's just kind of the the
00:30:54
difference is interesting to me. It's like I said, it's like if
00:31:01
you put into AIA radical leftist, this is what you would
00:31:06
get. You'd get someone who's free
00:31:07
Palestine, decolonized, stolen land, holding a Palestine and a
00:31:12
Mexican flag, all that stuff. And it's true.
00:31:17
These are real people. This is not AI.
00:31:19
So we'll keep an eye on the Turtle Island Liberation Front
00:31:23
and see if they come back around.
00:31:26
But for now, you can sleep easy. The Turtle Island Liberation
00:31:31
Front has been thwarted for now. So all right, next story.
00:31:37
If Gavin Newsom thought he was going to skate to being the
00:31:41
Democratic nominee, our old friend Kamala Harris might say
00:31:48
not so fast. You think you just fell out of a
00:31:52
coconut tree? Yep, she might say.
00:31:57
Not so fast, Gavin. I'm thinking about running.
00:32:01
That's been happening this past week, Axios reported.
00:32:05
I think, like PBS has reported, that there are rumors that
00:32:09
Kamala now is considering a 2028 run, which might throw a little
00:32:14
wrench in Gavin's road, maybe make it a little bit more bumpy.
00:32:19
I, I still imagine Gavin would win, but might make it a little
00:32:22
bit more bumpy if Kamala is in the race.
00:32:25
So here's a clip from a local news source who does this
00:32:28
polling. And we're going to watch it and
00:32:31
then we'll we'll talk about it. If you were Kamala Harris's
00:32:36
advisor, having she having run in 2020, dropping out early,
00:32:41
then last year that didn't go well.
00:32:44
Is this something she's possibly pushing or are people saying you
00:32:48
can run and win? Well, I would always be wary if
00:32:53
I was heard of taking advice from me, but I would say, look,
00:32:57
you know, I tend to think this is being driven by her.
00:33:01
I really doubt that there's too many people that are strongly
00:33:04
encouraging her one way or the other.
00:33:06
I know many people who do know her well.
00:33:08
And you know, she does. She plays a lot of things very
00:33:10
close to the vest. I would tend to think this is
00:33:12
something that the sting of last year in particular has not worn
00:33:17
off. And so I would be very surprised
00:33:19
if this wasn't being something driven by her.
00:33:23
Based on that poll right there, that's the most recent one from
00:33:25
September, she would have a Gavin Newsom problem.
00:33:28
As it sits right now, they're going to have to work that out.
00:33:31
And and you would think that Newsom is moving in that
00:33:33
direction, which takes me to my next question for you, the
00:33:37
latest Emerson College poll, if Newsom becomes the nominee.
00:33:42
And he seems to be kind of moving in that direction even
00:33:45
more. I want to pause here because we
00:33:48
always say this on this show, three years from now is like an
00:33:54
eternity in politics and people love a comeback story.
00:33:59
I mean, you had President Trump, who lost the presidential
00:34:03
election, came back and won handedly the next time Ronald
00:34:08
Reagan when he first tried to run for president, didn't do so
00:34:10
well. So people love a comeback story.
00:34:14
And three years in our short attention span with all of the
00:34:17
news that we're inundated with, is not crazy to think people
00:34:22
will forget this sting. And also there might be enough
00:34:26
people who go. You know what?
00:34:28
She wasn't given a fair shake. She was thrown in.
00:34:30
She had 100 days to run a campaign against President
00:34:33
Trump, who already had set everything up.
00:34:36
So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that she
00:34:40
thinks she can run So. Right.
00:34:44
We love a town. Sorry, like to to your point, we
00:34:48
love a downfall and we love a comeback.
00:34:51
We do and totally are related. But the judgement all the right.
00:34:54
Sounds like he could be Senator Scott Waiter's father.
00:34:59
I haven't noticed that. Now you're going to make me
00:35:00
think, but I could be. Notice.
00:35:03
Getting out in front nationally if he were to get the nomination
00:35:07
and he's comfortably ahead of Harris right now.
00:35:09
Nobody else seems to be close. A matchup with Gavin Newsom
00:35:14
versus JD Vance. Vance at 46, Newsom 45%.
00:35:18
This poll is is fresh from Emerson.
00:35:21
Anything you can take from that or the fact that they're that
00:35:24
close means what? It's really hard to determine
00:35:28
exactly what that means, you know, because I, I think at this
00:35:31
point, obviously everything is still very speculative as to,
00:35:35
you know, who would be in this race.
00:35:37
You know, I think what it really shows is, OK, so the power of
00:35:41
incumbency is is really strong. Now I can't unhear it.
00:35:45
That it sounds like Scott Weiner's dad, Yeah.
00:35:49
It's really strong here, but Gavin has made tremendous
00:35:52
strides in the last few months. This anti Trump trolling thing
00:35:56
he's done has shown a lot of younger people in particular
00:35:59
that he'll fight. And it's the thing that we've
00:36:03
seen, you know, in in New York City with, with Mandani and, and
00:36:08
I think, you know, a lot of younger people are really drawn
00:36:11
to somebody who will stand up to things that they're seeing from
00:36:14
this administration. So I think really what that poll
00:36:17
shows me is that Gavin has has gone from being, you know,
00:36:21
really hurt by that ridiculous podcast he started earlier this
00:36:24
year to to really rebounding and becoming a very strong favorite.
00:36:28
And again, it's very early. His ridiculous podcast that he
00:36:33
started this year did it. Did it?
00:36:36
Go anywhere. We know someone who started a
00:36:39
podcast, so they came out fighting.
00:36:42
They came out here, as we always say, podcasting ain't easy.
00:36:45
And the hardest thing about podcasting is being absolutely
00:36:48
consistent. Well, I did look it up last week
00:36:50
when we were chatting on the show.
00:36:52
And he did do something not too long ago, like a week or so ago.
00:36:55
So he's still doing it every once in a while.
00:36:58
But it's not as like news catching as like when he sat
00:37:01
down with Charlie Kirk or Steve Bannon.
00:37:03
It's more now he's like interviewing like Hillary
00:37:06
Clinton or Bill Clinton and people like that.
00:37:08
Like I thought it was supposed. To be the people that disagreed
00:37:12
with but OK. That's what I I thought it was.
00:37:14
You know, what does he always say?
00:37:15
An open hand, not a closed face. That was his whole thing of
00:37:17
like, I want to sit there and talk to people who I disagree
00:37:20
with. And the past couple, half a
00:37:23
dozen or so, have been all people that he absolutely agrees
00:37:26
with. OK, So a couple of things to
00:37:30
take from that. Like I said, it is very early.
00:37:32
I agree with that gentleman Scott Weiner supposed dad, which
00:37:35
was saying that because it sounds like him, it is very,
00:37:39
very early. A lot of things can change.
00:37:41
I know we've said on this show, I personally believe that Trump
00:37:45
has had a rough first year back in office.
00:37:48
It's been a little rough. The economy has kind of been
00:37:50
slow. People are getting really upset
00:37:52
about affordability. I did hear that he is going to
00:37:55
give a national address tomorrow night at 8:00 PM Eastern Time.
00:38:00
So there's that. But things could turn around
00:38:04
very quickly. Like the economy can all all of
00:38:06
a sudden start booming. All of a sudden things start
00:38:08
looking better. Then all of a sudden this
00:38:11
administration and this platform looks way more, you know, I
00:38:15
guess more palpable to the more people.
00:38:18
And it's it's a winning platform.
00:38:21
So it is it is very early. And this is something that I
00:38:25
think that maybe pollsters like him are not really seeing is
00:38:31
you've said this as well. Trump's not running in 2028,
00:38:35
even though he he jokes about he's going to run for a third
00:38:38
term. He's not running in 2028.
00:38:41
It looks like right now. It's probably going to be JD
00:38:43
Vance. I would imagine maybe Marco
00:38:46
Rubio throws this hat in the ring.
00:38:47
But either way, you're not running against Trump.
00:38:49
So you can do all these kind of cringy X posts and videos and
00:38:55
stuff like that and mimic and imitate Trump all you want, but
00:38:59
you're not running against them in 2028.
00:39:01
And you know you're going to have to do a hard pivot against
00:39:04
either Marco Rubio and JD Vance. And to their credit, Marco Rubio
00:39:10
is very intelligent, very good on his feet, very smart.
00:39:13
So is JD Vance, Like, they are both not Donald Trump in the
00:39:17
sense of their style, their finesse.
00:39:19
Like I always say, JD Vance is the more palpable version of
00:39:23
MAGA that people, you know, independents, maybe moderates,
00:39:27
kind of look at and go, OK, like, I like that version of
00:39:30
MAGA. When I hear JD Vance explain
00:39:32
MAGA and America First, it makes more sense to me and I'm in
00:39:36
favor of it rather than Donald Trump, who could be a little bit
00:39:38
bombastic. So you're not running against
00:39:40
Donald Trump and Kamala, who knows?
00:39:45
She'll slowly start to gather her sport.
00:39:49
There's some articles that I do want to talk about.
00:39:51
Is there anything you want to add before we jump into some of
00:39:53
these articles? In particular, no.
00:39:58
OK, then we will just jump right in.
00:40:02
Let's see. All right, so this is from the
00:40:05
Gateway Pundit report. Kamala Harris playing another
00:40:09
presidential campaign. I like the first line of
00:40:13
humiliation of 2024 presidential campaign clearly wasn't enough
00:40:16
for Kamala Harris. Who lost in the landslide to
00:40:19
Donald Trump has reportedly made clear to potential 2028 rivals
00:40:23
that she's working to keep another White House campaign
00:40:25
viable. Despite worries from party
00:40:27
leaders and donors that she can't win, Harris remains,
00:40:31
excuse me, at the AT or near the top of 2028 Democratic primary
00:40:37
polls. She also has strong support
00:40:39
amongst black voters, the most critical voting bloc in most
00:40:42
recent Democratic presidential primaries.
00:40:45
Which you know, if there's, if you're talking about places like
00:40:49
South Carolina, very important. That's one of the early states.
00:40:53
So getting South Carolina always seems to be like a bellwether
00:40:56
for a candidate, whether they can reach out and get that vote.
00:41:00
After lying low the first part of this year, then embarking on
00:41:03
2024 focused book tour, Harris made several moves this week
00:41:06
that many Democrats see as beginnings of a 2028 campaign.
00:41:10
They went to the DNC and there's an article about that as well.
00:41:15
Let me pull that up. California's role in shaping the
00:41:22
fate of the Democratic Party and combating Trump on full display.
00:41:24
So there was a meeting recently of the DNC California pause.
00:41:30
We weren't invited, so we didn't get the invitation.
00:41:33
That would have been fun though. California policies on divisive
00:41:36
issues such as providing expanded access to government
00:41:39
sponsored healthcare, aiding undocumented immigrants, and
00:41:41
supporting LGBTQ plus rights continually serve as a Rorschach
00:41:45
test for the nation's polarized electorate, providing comfort to
00:41:48
progressives and ammunition for Republican attack ads.
00:41:51
This cracked me up. Quote, California is like your
00:41:55
cool cousin that comes for the holidays who is intriguing and
00:41:59
glamorous but who might not fit in with the family year round,
00:42:02
said Elizabeth Ashford, a veteran Democratic strategist
00:42:06
who worked for Governor Jerry Brown and Arnold Schwarzenegger
00:42:09
and Harris when she was the state's attorney general.
00:42:13
I think if you have to describe yourself as the cool cousin,
00:42:17
you're not the cool cousin. But I think that's what a lot of
00:42:21
people on the left think they are.
00:42:23
They think they're the cool cousin that is so cultured and
00:42:27
so wonderful that they don't they don't fit in with the rest
00:42:30
of your stodgy, old bigoted family.
00:42:33
They're the cool we do. Have a lot of arrogance here,
00:42:35
California, we we like forget that the rest of the United
00:42:38
States exists and everything, you know, even when we get rain,
00:42:43
we act like we're the first state to experience rain.
00:42:47
It's just. We do live in our little bubble.
00:42:50
We do live in our little bubble where we think everything
00:42:52
revolves around us. Trump chief among them.
00:42:56
Paint this state as a dystopian hellhole, litter with homeless
00:42:59
encampments and lawlessness and plagued by high taxes and even
00:43:02
higher cost of living. All true things.
00:43:06
Let's see. It goes on to talk about Newsom
00:43:09
with champion Proposition 50. Best in that victory when he
00:43:12
strode through the hotel's corridors at the DNC meeting
00:43:14
that date the day before, stopping every few feet to talk
00:43:18
to committee members, shake their hands and take selfies.
00:43:22
Quote, There's a sense of optimism here, Newsome said.
00:43:27
Article goes on. Quote, I'm a very proud
00:43:29
California. It's a state that's just not
00:43:30
about growth. It's about inclusion, the
00:43:32
governor said before ticking off a list of California
00:43:35
initiatives, including low priced insulin, which we had to
00:43:38
spend a whole bunch of money on higher minimum wages, which is
00:43:42
killing jobs. Quote, So much of the policy
00:43:45
that's coming out of the state of California promotes not just
00:43:47
promise, but policy direction that I think is really important
00:43:50
for our party. So two of them facing off at the
00:43:55
DNC meeting talking about their positions.
00:44:00
So what are your thoughts? I check out what's going on in
00:44:03
the chat. By the way, Chad, thank you for
00:44:05
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and New Year's. So anyway, your thoughts?
00:44:27
You and I love California like we both live here.
00:44:30
We we do love it. And but we get so tired of the I
00:44:33
hope California falls off into the ocean, that whole narrative,
00:44:37
because we know that there is so many great things, but Gavin
00:44:42
Newsom and Kamala Harris haven't really done anything positive
00:44:46
for California. Yeah, California is is wonderful
00:44:52
despite what they've done to it. It's not going to stay wonderful
00:44:55
if we continue to give them a political office.
00:45:00
And I don't want to go off on a tangent on why we shouldn't
00:45:03
elect them, but I just feel like neither of them should be
00:45:07
elected. Not both of them, in my eyes,
00:45:09
are such failures. And, and yeah, we, we
00:45:14
California, we do try to act like we are the cool kid.
00:45:17
I have three sisters and two of them live here.
00:45:20
One of them lives in Oklahoma. And we're always like, why, Why
00:45:22
do you live there? California's way better.
00:45:25
And you know, they're, they're so much good about California.
00:45:30
But we need we need better leadership, better legislators,
00:45:35
and we definitely need a better president.
00:45:38
And I'm not even going to sit here and defend Donald Trump.
00:45:41
But going forward, we need somebody who really has shown
00:45:45
true leadership, has done positive things.
00:45:48
And I, Kamala and Gavin are just not it in my opinion.
00:45:53
But I guess I wouldn't mind seeing them fight.
00:45:56
Like I feel like there must be behind the scenes beef if
00:45:59
they're both willing to go up against each other because
00:46:01
typically we know somebody will step out and say, no, I'm going
00:46:06
to support this person. I'm going to support this
00:46:08
person. And so it's interesting that,
00:46:09
you know, Gavin was the the number one Democrat nominee.
00:46:15
It's not that he's officially nominated, but you know, he was
00:46:17
in the lead. And now Kabala Harris has
00:46:19
started talking about it. And it seems like her polling is
00:46:22
slightly higher than new Subs. And so I I don't know that they
00:46:26
would run on the same ticket, though they can't right it.
00:46:29
Could there's something about the electors I can't remember
00:46:33
technically? Like if you're an elector, you
00:46:35
can't cast a vote for a vice president.
00:46:37
If you're an elector, you can't cast a vote for the vice
00:46:40
president and president if you're from that state.
00:46:43
So I don't yeah, it's, it's some archaic rule about they can't
00:46:48
run from the same state. But I, I don't know why you'd
00:46:50
want to. I mean, California has enough
00:46:54
ammunition for attack ads anyway.
00:46:57
I imagine 2 Californians is already more than enough.
00:47:01
So they they'd probably pander and go get someone from like the
00:47:05
Midwest or somebody like from the Rust Belt, whether it's Josh
00:47:08
Shapiro or somebody like that, Who knows, Josh Shapiro might
00:47:11
run as well. You know, there's, I think
00:47:13
there's still a slew of like these moderate Democrats in
00:47:17
these red states that are governors who are probably going
00:47:21
to jump in and run because they're going to show I can be a
00:47:24
blue governor in a red state, reach across common sense, blah,
00:47:28
blah, blah, all that stuff. There's still a lot of people
00:47:31
who haven't jumped in. I mean, they keep showing AOC,
00:47:33
like AOC hasn't said anything about wanting to run.
00:47:36
Pete Buttigieg just said nothing about wanting to run.
00:47:38
They're just kind of pulling names and pulling people like,
00:47:40
well, who's the best so far of these people?
00:47:45
So it, it really is like, again, none of these people have
00:47:48
declared it's way too early for them to declare that they're
00:47:51
running for president. And I don't think outside of
00:47:56
Kamala Harris whispers that she might run for president, nobody
00:47:59
has said they're going to run for president.
00:48:02
You can kind of tell they're all running for president.
00:48:06
So there is a a story that I want to share as well about
00:48:12
because that that commentator talked about, whoa, Gavin
00:48:15
Newsom. Newsom is surging and all of a
00:48:18
sudden he surged so much recently in the past couple
00:48:22
months, There was a new survey from the Public Policy Institute
00:48:26
of California finds that both the governor, a likely
00:48:28
presidential candidate and a heavily Democratic legislature
00:48:31
surged to majority support in the final months of this year.
00:48:34
Politico finally reports this is from California Globe, quote.
00:48:38
The approval jump comes after Newsome and fellow Democrats
00:48:41
championed a gerrymandered new House map explicitly to counter
00:48:44
Trump in next year's midterms. They claim that his favorability
00:48:49
rating jumped 10 percentage points over the course of the
00:48:52
year, from 46% in June to 4646 to 56 this month.
00:48:57
The legislators standing improved by eight points in the
00:48:59
same time period, reaching a 53% majority.
00:49:02
Well this is all California, so 53 is kind of sad for a state
00:49:06
that's super majority Democrat. While the media is slobbering
00:49:12
all over the latest PPIC polls showing 56% approval for Gavin
00:49:16
Newsom, A10 percentage point increase, they neglect to tell
00:49:18
the full story that this is polling is meant to shape public
00:49:21
opinion and not report it. The ten point increase is from
00:49:25
June's 46%, but what about October?
00:49:28
Newsom's approval was only 54%. Media is conspicuously omitting
00:49:33
this figure. So in reality, he's had a
00:49:35
marginal 2% jump since the last poll.
00:49:38
And every one of these PPIC polls they survey at least 64%
00:49:42
Democrats surging, surging, surging 2%.
00:49:47
It's at least 64% Democrats, 32 to 35% Republicans oversampling
00:49:54
Democrats to Republican. It's a 2% bump over the past
00:49:58
month or so, so not as huge of a jump.
00:50:04
And here are the top issues chosen when asked about
00:50:07
California. Cost of living, economy, housing
00:50:09
costs, government in general, problems with elected officials,
00:50:11
political parties. About 7 in 10 Californians, 71%,
00:50:16
think the state will have bad economic times in the next 12
00:50:18
months. Economic pessimism is
00:50:20
widespread, with more than six in 10 across parties regions
00:50:22
demographic group expecting bad economic times.
00:50:26
This is more poll results. Nearly all Californians see
00:50:28
housing cost and availability as a problem.
00:50:32
The view is housing affordability is a big problems
00:50:33
widely held by 6 to 10 or more across parties, regions and
00:50:37
demographic groups. More than four in 10
00:50:40
Californians say the cost of housing places a financial
00:50:42
strain on them and their families. 25 say by a lot, 20%
00:50:46
say by a little. So even though he's surging in
00:50:51
the polls, the reality is, is Californians are still very,
00:50:56
very concerned about where the state is going.
00:50:57
And a majority of Californians are very worried about where the
00:51:01
the state is going, especially economic wise. 7 out of 10
00:51:04
believe that it's headed in the wrong direction.
00:51:07
So I, I mean, people are going to like Gavin Newsom.
00:51:12
If you hate Trump and you like that he's pushing back against
00:51:17
Trump, but these are still issues that he's going to have
00:51:21
to deal with when he runs to be president.
00:51:23
He's going to have to run with bad, a bad economy,
00:51:27
unaffordability. And especially now when the
00:51:29
Democrats are pushing this affordability thing.
00:51:33
This is the whole new like attack line by Democrats is
00:51:37
affordability. Gavin Newsom's the worst person
00:51:40
to add advertise anything about affordability because nothing in
00:51:43
California is really affordable. Everything keeps getting raised,
00:51:47
you know to pick up your garbage SDG and EI saw is going to raise
00:51:50
your rate in the next year. It it's just nothing's
00:51:54
affordable. So the underlying metrics and
00:51:57
polling of Californians is not boding well for Gavin Newsom and
00:52:01
for that fact, Kamala Harris, who is also a Californian.
00:52:04
So sure, they'll say Gavin Newsom surged in the polling and
00:52:09
they're all fawning over this new rise of Gavin Newsom.
00:52:13
It's still super, super early and he could burn himself out
00:52:16
really quickly. Something else could happen.
00:52:18
I saw someone in the chat say he's still got one year left to
00:52:21
ruin California. So as if he hasn't done a good
00:52:25
enough job now he's really going to kind of bury it.
00:52:30
A lot can happen. So there's a lot that can happen
00:52:33
between now and then. Somebody said they were checked.
00:52:38
Are getting more and more exaggerated.
00:52:40
You know, we went from it was like this to now it's this.
00:52:44
Just now they're getting wider. It'll be really fun to watch.
00:52:48
He's doing Toca moves. It's crazy.
00:52:50
Someone checked in from Monterey, CA What's up Monterey?
00:52:53
That's way up there in N California.
00:52:55
Monterey's beautiful, someone said.
00:52:58
I don't know what's wrong with you young people.
00:53:00
You think you just fell out of a coconut tree.
00:53:01
Yep, that's the sound we just played.
00:53:04
So. That's exactly.
00:53:06
So it looks like right now in this moment, we are facing and
00:53:12
Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris Democratic primary showdown.
00:53:17
I don't know she she dropped out in the last primary.
00:53:20
She had to run in. She didn't get one primary vote.
00:53:25
I'll be interested to see if she does a little bit better this
00:53:28
time around. I don't know.
00:53:29
But either way, people who might be donating to Gavin Newsom if
00:53:34
they're more inclined to donate to Kamala Harris might make
00:53:37
things a little bit harder. But Gavin Newsom has no problem
00:53:39
finding money wherever he needs to.
00:53:41
So any thoughts before we go on to the next topic?
00:53:46
I know we're we're getting close on the hour so.
00:53:50
OK, All right, Last story, which little bit lighter note to end
00:53:56
the year on because this is the last show.
00:53:58
And again, if you just join the show, click the link above.
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So please make sure you go check that out and consider staying
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around after the two weeks. So I came across this article.
00:54:17
It's not really political, but again, let's end the year on a
00:54:21
kind of lighter note. Let me pull this up real quick.
00:54:24
Where is it? I should have had this ready
00:54:28
beforehand. Here we go.
00:54:32
This is from the San Francisco Chronicle.
00:54:34
California stereotypes are real, and this extremely detailed data
00:54:37
proves it. So this is a fun little graph of
00:54:41
what Californians do every minute of their day.
00:54:46
They spend most of their time sleeping and a whole bunch of
00:54:51
that. We're going to go through them a
00:54:52
little, little by little. So just let me know when you
00:54:55
want to stop if you have any questions.
00:54:58
Let's see a question that you can.
00:55:00
I'm going to ask now, but I want you to answer after because
00:55:04
you're a California transplant. So I want to know if this was
00:55:08
cut, This is the multiple part question.
00:55:11
Was this true of you before? Is it true of you now?
00:55:15
Has it become more like like do you again, this isn't as they
00:55:20
even mentioned this article. It's certainly not perfect.
00:55:23
And you know, it was 3000 people out of 40 million people in
00:55:26
California. But I want to know if you've
00:55:30
seen yourself fitting more into this, what they what they say.
00:55:34
So you, you know, you go through it and then answer that after
00:55:36
the fact, OK. That's a good question.
00:55:40
Let's see, this is a comparison. Californians do more of personal
00:55:45
care such as sleeping, education, eating and drinking,
00:55:48
household activities, sports, exercise and recreation,
00:55:52
consumer purchases, caring for and helping household members,
00:55:55
telephone calls and traveling, professional personal care
00:55:59
services. They do less of this is
00:56:01
interesting volunteer activities.
00:56:03
So for as virtuous as Californians pretend that they
00:56:06
are, because they're so virtuous, they actually don't do
00:56:11
a lot of volunteer activities, which kind of makes sense for
00:56:14
California the way the government's set up.
00:56:16
They just want the government to take care of everybody.
00:56:18
So I'm surprised, that's not surprising that they don't do a
00:56:21
lot of volunteer activities. Religious and spiritual
00:56:24
activities they do less of than the rest of the United States.
00:56:27
Caring for and helping non household members.
00:56:30
Top three things. Californians are not as
00:56:33
religious, they are not as caring for people who are not
00:56:36
family members and they don't volunteer a lot so.
00:56:42
We sound awesome. See, we're selfish, we're
00:56:44
arrogant, We're at our. Level, you said, you said that
00:56:48
before about how we kind of think everything revolves around
00:56:51
us and that kind of proves it, that we're kind of selfish.
00:56:54
These Californians, as I said, Californians love to sleep.
00:56:59
We spend roughly 7 more minutes sleeping per day than the rest
00:57:02
of the country. Gain an average of more than 9
00:57:03
hours daily. 9 hours. Who's sleeping now?
00:57:09
9 hours is a ton of I. I would feel sick after 9 hours.
00:57:12
Like if I sleep close to 8 hours, I feel groggy the next
00:57:15
day. Which suggests the meditation
00:57:18
and melatonin gummies that many of us love are working.
00:57:22
That's a lot of time it. Let us know in the chat you
00:57:24
sleep anywhere close to 9 hours. I'm a horrible sleeper.
00:57:28
Horrible, always have been. Magnesium does help, but I
00:57:33
actually I was at my hair appointment today and I texted
00:57:36
my husband I'm like hey, I actually slept for like 4 hours
00:57:39
straight last night. Like for me, that is the world's
00:57:43
biggest deal, so. I am a you know, I'm a stickler
00:57:48
about my sleep. I try to get at least 7 hours.
00:57:53
If Cole is like 7 1/2 every night during the week, 9 is a
00:57:59
ton of sleep. I want to know what these people
00:58:01
are doing with their lives that they get 9 hours of sleep.
00:58:05
Yeah. Helpful behind the scenes would
00:58:07
would Phil, would I jump off? Like with the podcast ends,
00:58:10
we're both still on video screen, but he's like, well,
00:58:12
gotta go to bed. I'm like bye.
00:58:15
Yeah, I'm an early rise here. So he's.
00:58:17
Like, oh. It's past my bedtime.
00:58:19
Yeah, and I do this for you folks.
00:58:22
I stay up past my bedtime to do this podcast.
00:58:25
The Californians work less and shop more.
00:58:28
They spend about 8% more time shopping than others, not
00:58:31
including groceries, food, and gas, though we also spend
00:58:35
slightly more time on those tasks as well.
00:58:36
The bottom line? We're prepared to shop till we
00:58:39
drop. What are we buying?
00:58:41
What do you call buying? Tell me what you're buying.
00:58:44
Probably Amazon. Yeah.
00:58:46
What doodads? I mean, I bought it every day.
00:58:53
Someone says my wife gets 9A night.
00:58:54
Well, lucky her nine hours is great.
00:58:58
Californians aren't hunting, they're hiking.
00:59:00
With plenty of hiking trails and grassy parks at our doorstep,
00:59:03
not to mention the unbeatled California sunshine, it's no
00:59:05
wonder we're all about an active lifestyle.
00:59:07
While we spend on average roughly half a minute less
00:59:10
hunting than our peers, that's not surprising for a state that
00:59:13
hits the Second Amendment and guns.
00:59:15
We make that up by spending almost a whole minute more
00:59:18
hiking than the rest of the country and almost 3 minutes
00:59:21
more walking. Well, that also makes sense.
00:59:24
I I think that makes sense because it's nice and people can
00:59:27
walk all year round, so why not? Yeah, that's true.
00:59:31
Of the Californians polled around 1:00 and 5:00 logged,
00:59:33
playing a sport or exercising in their day, four percentage
00:59:36
points more than outside the state, 4.14.1 percentage points
00:59:42
higher for walking, weight lifting .8%.
00:59:45
So other things that we don't do as much boating, golfing,
00:59:49
playing soccer, that's surprising.
00:59:52
Fishing and fishing seems like that'd be a great hobby to do
00:59:56
here in California. There's so many beautiful places
00:59:58
to go fishing. But guess we don't like fishing.
01:00:03
My dad is a like deep sea fisherman but they tend to go to
01:00:08
Mexico like by by now. My uncle passed earlier this
01:00:13
year but he owned a fishing boat for like a giant fishing boat
01:00:17
forever and so my dad would always go fishing on it like
01:00:21
several times a year and take a bunch of my nephews he didn't
01:00:24
hit. I mentioned I have all sisters,
01:00:27
not that we're not allowed to fish, but my dad is very old
01:00:29
fashioned and he won't fish with women.
01:00:32
So he'll take now that he has like a bunch of grandsons, he'll
01:00:35
take the ball deep sea fishing and any son in
01:00:53
I don't think they had to say where they're fishing.
01:00:56
Yeah, so I know a lot of people, I mean, here in Southern
01:01:00
California, makes sense to go down to Mexico.
01:01:02
I mean, it's just Baja seafood is is pretty damn good seafood.
01:01:06
So I imagine there's a lot of people who go down there to
01:01:08
Mexico. Somebody said I would think the
01:01:11
hiking would be significantly more while hunting would be much
01:01:14
lower. Yeah, actually, that's a good
01:01:16
point. I would think hiking would be
01:01:18
way higher since so many people can do it around the clock, like
01:01:24
all all year round. But.
01:01:26
We have a lot of place, you know, there's beach hiking and
01:01:28
then there's mountain and even desert.
01:01:31
Like we have so many blood just here in Orange County.
01:01:34
We have so many places that are great for hiking.
01:01:39
And I know a lot of people who enjoy that.
01:01:41
Like I said, I don't. But yeah, you would think there
01:01:44
would be more because I feel like people actually come here
01:01:46
to hike. Like I feel like a lot of people
01:01:48
visit California and they're like, oh, I'm going to, you
01:01:50
know, go visit here, here, here. We're going to hike.
01:01:53
Like, why would you come here to hike?
01:01:56
Not a hiker but but yeah. I would think.
01:01:59
I agree with that statement. Californians hate doing nothing.
01:02:03
We can't just sit still. On average, we spend a little
01:02:05
more than a minute less relaxing and thinking per day than the
01:02:08
rest of the country. Instead of sitting idle, we tend
01:02:10
to fill our free time with social activities and the arts
01:02:15
or asleep. Californians on average spend
01:02:17
more time than those outside the state visiting museums, going to
01:02:20
movies, listening to music and attending or hosting parties.
01:02:24
OK, yeah, that's, I mean, there's something.
01:02:28
Maybe I'll get to this afterwards and I'll.
01:02:30
I'll explain my take on this. So this is attending, hosting
01:02:36
parties, listening to, playing music, attending museums,
01:02:38
attending movies. Can't remember the last time I
01:02:40
actually went and saw a movie because there's just been
01:02:42
nothing good to see. I think the last movie, Gosh,
01:02:46
what was the last movie I actually saw?
01:02:47
Was it like a Spider Man movie or something?
01:02:50
I can't even remember socializing and communicating
01:02:53
with others. Not as much as the relaxing and
01:02:57
thinking we do. Less than the rest of the
01:02:59
country. Less TV and religion.
01:03:01
More education. For a group that prides
01:03:03
ourselves on physical appearance, it seems that we
01:03:05
care just as much about what's on the inside.
01:03:07
Californians log about 9 minutes more of education related
01:03:10
activities such as taking classes, doing research, or
01:03:12
completing homework and the rest of the United States and our
01:03:15
carve out time for this appears that Californians opt to
01:03:18
minimize other hobbies. On average, Californians spent
01:03:20
18 minutes less watching television and movies per day
01:03:24
and two minutes less on religious activities.
01:03:26
However, that time may be made-up for by staring at a
01:03:29
different screen, as we spent around 4 minutes more a day
01:03:32
using computer for leisure. I feel like there's a lot of
01:03:36
people though, a lot of people are paying attention on their
01:03:38
computer, on their phones. They're not really paying
01:03:40
attention to. They're not sitting down and
01:03:42
watching TV. Like does anybody sit down and
01:03:46
watch, you know, in the track and let me know, does anybody
01:03:50
actually sit down and go, well, this show is on at 8.
01:03:54
I have to get in front of the TV by 8:00.
01:03:57
Does anybody do that anymore or do they just wait for it to come
01:03:59
out on streaming the next day or something?
01:04:01
I can't realize time I watched like a live TV event outside of
01:04:06
sports like the World Series or Super Bowl or something like
01:04:09
that. I don't, you know, I don't.
01:04:11
Even when I watch TV, I'm not paying attention to it.
01:04:16
It's background noise. Like, I don't know, I, I can
01:04:23
kind of get into a series, but I'm really only halfway into it
01:04:28
and scrolling my phone or literally reading political
01:04:32
news, reading political news on X while there's like ATV show
01:04:36
playing and I'll, I'll kind of catch something going on in the
01:04:39
TV show. Yeah, so.
01:04:42
Like you, I can't remember the last time I saw a movie in
01:04:45
theaters. Like it's been years.
01:04:49
OK, I honestly can't remember the last movie, and I can't
01:04:53
remember the last time I sat down for a live TV event outside
01:04:56
of sports that you had to watch at that time that you can stream
01:04:59
elsewhere. Like all the shows I know are
01:05:01
all streaming. Like Stranger Things are
01:05:03
streaming, Like all the shows come out, they're on streaming.
01:05:06
Right, I bought it on Netflix. Sorry.
01:05:08
Go on with your answers. Someone said, not me, I watch
01:05:11
YouTube almost exclusively. Yeah.
01:05:13
I mean, stuff on demand is the way to go for people now.
01:05:16
So to answer your question, as a transplant who's been here for
01:05:21
11 years now in California, plus the four I was in college, so 15
01:05:25
years of my life had been spent in California, would I say I've
01:05:29
adapted more of these activities?
01:05:33
I would, I would think so. I think the attending museums,
01:05:39
places like that, I think, and this is just my personal view is
01:05:46
people are more likely to go out and do things like go to
01:05:50
museums, go to art exhibits, go to places where they have to get
01:05:53
out of the house because there's good weather all year round.
01:05:58
So it, it's when you're somewhere like the East Coast,
01:06:03
like right now, and it's 19° and there's a wind chill, the last
01:06:07
thing you want to do is bundle up and go to a museum and walk
01:06:11
around in a big heavy winter coat and walk around a museum.
01:06:13
Nobody wants to do that. So I think maybe that has
01:06:16
something to do with it is that you can go to a museum all year
01:06:19
round. It's nice.
01:06:20
And you're like, oh, it's a beautiful day, let's go do
01:06:23
something. The activities, I would believe
01:06:26
exercise, personal care, taking care of yourself as well.
01:06:29
That's like a California cultural thing.
01:06:31
I think of like being healthy, making sure you're eating the
01:06:35
right foods, making sure it's organic, it's not full of
01:06:39
pesticides, stuff like that. I think that's a California
01:06:41
thing as well that most of the country probably doesn't really
01:06:46
adhere to as much as here in California.
01:06:49
So back to the. Weather we also can grow so much
01:06:52
more than a, you know, because year round we can grow things.
01:06:55
Yes, they have greenhouses, but you know, we actually have the
01:06:59
ability to grow these things. And so I think you even have a
01:07:03
little vegetable garden or garden or something.
01:07:06
I know I have a bunch of fruit trees.
01:07:07
It's like we can literally walk into our backyards and get fresh
01:07:10
ingredients and fresh foods, you know, craving something and you
01:07:14
just walked and feed out back and you're eating it.
01:07:17
Or, you know, someone who has an avocado tree or a lemon tree or
01:07:20
something like that. Yeah, it's or, or you're in a
01:07:24
place where they have farmers markets literally year round.
01:07:27
So it's like you have no excuse not to go get fresh produce from
01:07:32
a farmer that is close by. So yeah, they that's as well
01:07:38
good weather. Culturally it's we are very
01:07:41
abundant. We're very lucky to have access
01:07:43
to a lot of good produce. The health conscious thing I
01:07:48
could see it's, it's, I think that's also a weather thing as
01:07:51
well. I honestly think that this
01:07:55
sounds really vain, but I think when you live in a place where
01:07:59
the weather is nice all year round, you can't escape.
01:08:03
Like we used to joke on the East Coast is you could put on like
01:08:06
your little winter pudge because you could wear a sweater, you
01:08:09
could wear a jacket. Like you could cover it up a
01:08:12
little bit. And then like as the weather got
01:08:13
warmer, you could get back to working out and look better.
01:08:17
I think here when it's especially in places like San
01:08:19
Diego, it's 70° all year round. You kind of have to look good
01:08:24
all year round. You have an incentive to look
01:08:26
good year all round because there's nowhere like you're not
01:08:29
wearing big heavy winter jackets.
01:08:31
It's not the winter where people don't care our.
01:08:34
Weather is good in the 70s and I'm wearing this sweater which
01:08:37
like the stud has been down but I'm actually really warm.
01:08:42
I'm sitting here in a sweater and like, the high today was 68.
01:08:45
So, you know, joke's on me. I guess I've adapted to San
01:08:49
Diego weather. So yeah, I think culturally, the
01:08:53
weather, all that stuff that contributes to why Californians
01:08:57
are the way they are religious, I'm not surprised that they we
01:09:00
don't spend as much time on religion as possible.
01:09:02
More people go to college and education, although I think I
01:09:07
think religion is on its way back.
01:09:10
I think there's a trend of people coming back to religion,
01:09:13
especially after COVID. I know we're kind of overtime
01:09:16
right now. People who are still hanging out
01:09:17
with us right now, you, you're the real ones.
01:09:19
You hang out until the end. You love hearing us chit chat
01:09:21
about this stuff. At my local parish, there were
01:09:28
about 12 or 13 new catechumens who are want to enter the
01:09:32
Catholic Church. So I was like, that's good.
01:09:35
It seems like the numbers are going in a in the right
01:09:38
direction. And it also seems like a lot of
01:09:40
people in their 20s are coming into the Catholic Church.
01:09:43
So I think there's going to be a boom.
01:09:45
And this is actually worldwide, there is a boom in people going
01:09:49
back to the Catholic Church and finding religion again.
01:09:52
This isn't a whole thing about Catholicism.
01:09:54
That's not the point of this, but it's the last show of the
01:09:56
year, So what the heck. So who knows, maybe religions on
01:10:00
its way back in California, maybe more people are going back
01:10:03
into church and going back to whatever they choose.
01:10:06
And that's a good thing for Californians.
01:10:08
So, but I'm not surprised, I'm not surprised that those results
01:10:14
that we are very vain. A lot of people, someone made a
01:10:20
great comment that they farm, we farm our altruism out to the
01:10:24
government because we believe the government can do
01:10:26
everything. We don't want to help homeless
01:10:28
people. Let you know, let the government
01:10:29
help homeless people, right? Let the let the government help
01:10:32
the poor. We don't want to help the poor
01:10:34
specifically. It's almost like California
01:10:36
doesn't believe in private charity.
01:10:38
They just believe the government should take care of everything
01:10:41
kind of goes. To the fact that if we're like
01:10:43
less people are going to church, they're not learning that as
01:10:47
like a moral ground that it's, it's our responsibility, not the
01:10:50
governor's, not the government's, It's, it's you
01:10:53
know, we're supposed to have the personal responsibility of
01:10:55
caring for the poor and the widows and the orphans.
01:10:59
Instead, we've given that over to the government.
01:11:02
We're like, no, you go ahead and rob me of however much you think
01:11:06
you need to pay yourself 1st and then take care of the poor, the
01:11:11
needy. Yeah, in my parish particularly,
01:11:18
there's plenty of opportunities to be charitable, whether it's
01:11:20
volunteer activities, which Californians supposedly don't
01:11:23
do, whether it's to donate to local homeless shelters who need
01:11:27
stuff around Christmas time, blankets, gloves, sleeping bags,
01:11:31
all that stuff. Maybe we haven't.
01:11:34
Mandated enough Enough mandatory volunteer hours to our high
01:11:38
school students. Maybe because.
01:11:42
Maybe that's a part of their graduation requirement is that
01:11:44
they have to get so many hours of all mandatory volunteer hours
01:11:48
a year. Isn't that nationwide?
01:11:50
I don't remember because I thought Bill Clinton proposed
01:11:52
that, but maybe we need more. Wasn't part of my high school,
01:11:56
but I went to a private high school so we didn't have to
01:11:58
listen to whatever the government said.
01:12:01
OK. Someone said chose God over the
01:12:03
vaccine in 2022 and only grew closer to God after losing my
01:12:06
career for not getting the vaccine.
01:12:09
I think a lot of people did come back to church because of COVID
01:12:12
and all of that. I think that people wanted to
01:12:15
get back to something real and a higher power.
01:12:18
So I would, I'm not surprised that there's probably more
01:12:23
people going back to religion after COVID, especially here in
01:12:26
California when they tried to take literally everything from
01:12:29
you, whether it's your family, your social life, your job, your
01:12:32
career, everything. They try to take everything from
01:12:34
you. And then you said they felt
01:12:36
empty. So yeah, you were, you were
01:12:37
seeking something more. You wanted to be a part of
01:12:39
something. Someone commented the mayoral
01:12:43
race in LA is going to be interesting in 26.
01:12:45
That is going to be interesting. Karen Bass is running again.
01:12:48
She's already announced her RE election.
01:12:51
We'll definitely talk about that.
01:12:52
Definitely. Going to be talking about, we
01:12:54
got a lot to talk about in 26. I mean we could take a minute
01:12:57
and look forward to 26 before we finish out this last show of the
01:13:00
year. Also remember, if you haven't
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01:13:11
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01:13:13
I'm just kidding. Camille's going to be looking.
01:13:15
She's going to be like, I want to see all you people in the
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chat in there, so I'm going to. Block you from this show.
01:13:20
I'm going to be like you didn't join our telegram within 24
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hours, just blocked. Very much kidding. 26 We got a
01:13:30
lot to talk about obviously the gubernatorial race, which is
01:13:32
going to be exciting LA mayoral race, there's gonna be a ton of
01:13:36
propositions I did see a report I had I didn't verify it whether
01:13:42
I think the voter ID got enough signatures to get on the ballot
01:13:46
I. Haven't heard that yet.
01:13:48
I know it's close, or like last I saw it was very close.
01:13:52
I saw some PO. I didn't verify whether or not
01:13:54
that was true, but I did see that they hit their number.
01:13:58
The idea is you want to go past that number so in case there's
01:14:01
duplicates or things they throw out.
01:14:02
But I think as of now, I think they've reached the number for
01:14:05
voter ID to be on the ballot for next year.
01:14:08
And that is something that when polled, Californians across
01:14:12
party lines are actually in favor of voter ID.
01:14:15
So it will be interesting to see how that comes out to see if it.
01:14:20
Passes and then if they even implement it because, you know,
01:14:25
cough cough Prop 36. Prop 36, it'll be interesting.
01:14:29
They'll be like, Oh, well, you guys didn't include financing
01:14:31
it, so we're just not going to fund it and we hate you, so
01:14:34
we're not going to do it, sorry. We hate.
01:14:38
You, we hate you. That's how I feel about
01:14:40
Sacramento and Gavin Newsom, Pelia, like that.
01:14:42
Pretty much most politicians in the state, I feel like they're
01:14:45
just like, we hate you. So shut up.
01:14:48
You know? You know you did your nice
01:14:49
little proposition. That's cute, but we hate you,
01:14:54
all right? Any other final thoughts before
01:14:56
we sign off for 2025? Just, you know, thank you once
01:15:01
again, everyone for being here and with another year, can't
01:15:05
believe we're covered up on another year over and we'll have
01:15:09
a, you know, next year, big election year.
01:15:11
We'll have a lot happening. We'll have a lot to discuss and
01:15:14
hopefully get a lot of great guests on Joy the Telegram,
01:15:18
because we absolutely want to keep in touch with you guys over
01:15:20
the just next two weeks. You know, we're on Instagram as
01:15:24
well. Of course, we're on X all the
01:15:27
things. And I hope that everyone has
01:15:29
happy holidays. I, I Merry Christmas too, But I
01:15:33
know a lot of you, I know there's, there's Hanukkah and
01:15:36
then when I say holidays, of course, there's New Year's Eve
01:15:37
and all that. And so, you know, be safe, have
01:15:40
fun. I hope that you guys all have a
01:15:43
a great ending and beginning of a new year.
01:15:46
Yeah, yeah, 26 is going to be crazy.
01:15:48
It's going to be a lot. I'm sure we'll we might end up
01:15:51
at one of the conventions and might do a new live stream like
01:15:55
we've done in the past. Yes, we will get a lot of the
01:15:58
gubernatorial candidates on. A lot of people have been asking
01:16:00
like Chad Bianco. Yes, Chad Bianco will likely be
01:16:03
on the show next year. He was a guest previously, so I
01:16:06
don't see why he wouldn't come on again.
01:16:08
Steve Hilton will probably come on again.
01:16:10
Other people who are running Assembly people, it's not just
01:16:13
the governor. Remember, there's Assemblyman,
01:16:14
state senators, stuff like that. Also very important that we need
01:16:18
to talk to a lot of people running for different positions.
01:16:21
So we will do our best. It's going to be a crazy hectic
01:16:24
2026. I'm looking forward to it being
01:16:26
a great big year. So I guess with that, thanks to
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