In this episode of the California Underground Podcast, hosts Phil and Camille discuss various political topics, including Trump's recent visit to California, Gavin Newsom's political strategies, and Scott Wiener's controversial new bill. They delve into the implications of misinformation in politics, the importance of local elections, and the potential consequences of federal intervention in state matters. The conversation highlights the challenges and absurdities of California politics, emphasizing the need for accountability and informed discourse.
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Original air date 1.28.25
Chapters
03:37 Trump's Visit to California
06:24 Gavin Newsom's Political Maneuvering
12:34 Confrontation and Public Engagement
18:19 Trump vs. Biden: A Contrast in Leadership
25:28 Scott Wiener's Controversial Bill
36:22 Legal Implications and Political Theater
36:50 Understanding Tort Law and Causation
41:53 The Absurdity of New Climate Change Legislation
46:50 Political Ambitions and Legislative Madness
50:09 Trump's Military Claims and California Water Issues
01:02:35 The Reality Behind Water Management in California
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[00:00:27] What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I'm your host, Phil. And as always with me, my trusty cohost, the best and fastest researcher in the West. Camille, how are you doing on this chilly Southern California evening? And before anybody says anything, yes, 50 degrees is cold for us Southern Californians. We're very soft. So I don't want to hear it.
[00:00:53] Anything below 70. I'm like, I'm skinny. All right. I like I have no muscle or fat. I'm always cold. No, but you know what? It was actually a beautiful day. I left my house today. And as I was driving, it was, there was clouds, but there was very blue skies and the trees are like green and golden.
[00:01:13] And I live in a pretty city. It's clean. And I was like, oh, it's such a pretty day. But then I couldn't wait to come home and snuggle back under my heated blanket on my comfortable sofa. And that's exactly what is. I'm not on my sofa, but I have my heated blanket on me. And last podcast, I was just complaining about all things of being a female. Like, I hate my looks today. My hair is better. I'm warm. I'm having a much better day. How are you? How are you?
[00:01:42] Good. Outside of it being cold and, you know, now they've added rain on top of it. Are you guys getting rain? It's been like on and off. Not like a lot of rain, but I feel like we talked about rain the last episode. We did. It's so rare to talk about, to talk about rain. We have to talk about it. What happens? It is. Yeah, it's such a rare thing.
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[00:02:55] So, so, uh, cause I always have my, I like warm myself with my little paper cup and people are probably like, she's destroying the environment. Anyway, I didn't even know that was a, I thought that was just actually like one of your mugs. That's like actually ceramic. Um, all right. So tonight's episode is going to be about Trump visiting California. Some other things as well. We're gonna talk a little bit about Trump visiting California. Cause I know we kind of covered that in different videos.
[00:03:25] This weekend with Karen Bass and all that, you can go check it out on, uh, you on, well, if you're watching this on YouTube, you can go watch it here on YouTube. But if you're listening on audio, you can go check it out on YouTube. Uh, so I don't want to go too far into that stuff. There is a bill that our favorite legislator, Scott Wiener introduced, which is very dystopian and incredibly, um, jarring. I mean, it's amazing that this guy is a legislator and what he introduces. I mean, you just shake your head.
[00:03:55] You're like, this is insane. This is going to get laughed out of court, but it's good headlines for him. Hopefully these things get passed and it's just, yeah. Yeah. And then we're like, how do these things get passed? Well, you know, because you got to worry about who's in Sacramento. And on that note, I tweeted this morning about, um, this whole Trump sent in the military.
[00:04:17] So, um, for those of you who don't know, I'm, I'm an early riser. So I go to bed early. And because when you have to get up super early as I do, uh, your bedtime is akin to, uh, an old retiree. So I'm like in bed by like nine o'clock. Um, sometimes messages come through from Camille about stuff that is happening.
[00:04:38] Let's be, let's be real. I'm pretty obnoxious. So I wake up to stuff, uh, regarding like what's going on in the world or what's breaking or like maybe there's social media stuff that's happening. And, um, uh, this was one thing I got up and saw, I was like, huh? Like, what is this? Is this really happening? And of course all the like conservative influencers like jumped all over it and they all made reels about it and they all talked about it.
[00:05:04] And a quick Google search shows that none of this ever happened, but they were cheering it on. And I did text you just kidding. It's a lot. I did. Yes, you did. So you prefaced it with like, Hey, this is a big thing.
[00:05:17] And then all of a sudden you're like, nevermind. This is a lie. And I was like, okay, why is it a lie? And we're going to talk about that, uh, later in the show. And I, I got some thoughts. I know I'm going to get pushback and people are probably going to be like, you know, Phil, why would you say that? You know, you're not like a true conservative or whatever. I have a lot of pushback because I shared it, my Instagram stories and people weren't rude or anything, but they were just like, well, actually, let's just talk about that when we talk about this. So we'll move on.
[00:05:46] Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we got a bunch of stuff to talk about. Um, but first off our cringe moment of the week, uh, I picked this one mostly because as a practicing Catholic, um, this one stuck out to me. I forget someone sent this to me. One of the followers on Instagram sent this to me. I was like, this is an old video from way back in the early two thousands.
[00:06:09] We go in the way back machine to when Gavin Newsom was still a slick haired mayor of San Francisco rising up that political ladder. Um, and this was on the subject of gay marriage. I think this was like around the time prop eight was, which was like 2008, seven. Yeah. Right. So when prop eight was passed, was it passed or it shot down? I think it was past.
[00:06:35] I thought it didn't pass, but then we ended up, gosh, what was it? Pretty sure it didn't pass, but then California ended up legalizing gay marriage later. Like not too much later. Well, it was Obergefell.
[00:06:55] Okay. In my defense, while I was paying attention at the time, I had multiple babies in that time. Like my kids, there is less than six years between four of them. And so I was like, I had, I remember when this was happening. That's how I kind of know when it was happening because I had a two and a half year old, a baby baby. And I was pregnant with number three. Like, okay. I was busy.
[00:07:24] I was busy being a mom. You weren't really following Gavin Newsom. I was like following politics and I'd get very angry at politics, but I also had to like go be a mom to toddlers and newborns. So more important stuff than, than following Gavin Newsom. So yeah, this video is from around that time when I guess prop eight was a big deal being the mayor of San Francisco. He was, I guess he has the claim to fame that he was the first person to
[00:07:54] oversee or conduct a ceremony for a gay marriage in San Francisco in city hall, like in the country or something like that. So At least in California, I don't know if it was true across the country, but at least in California, he was the first one to do it because why pass up a good political opportunity? Gavin Newsom is very good at finding the good political opportunity. So I'm going to look at on that presidential resume. Not in, I don't think in the red States or the swing States that and a whole bunch of other things. So let's watch the video.
[00:08:22] Uh, we'll, we'll give our comments. It's a short little video. So I'm a practicing Catholic. I got married in the church two plus years. I don't see what we're doing in terms of advancing the bond of love and monogamy and extending that to families, families of same sex in any way, shape or form takes away anything from the church or the sanctity of the union that my wife and I have. I would just like to ask the mayor as a practicing Catholic. Do you believe the Bible is the word of God?
[00:08:51] Look, pastor, I'm not going to get in a theological debate with you. No, that's not a theological debate. That's just a straight question. Do you believe the Bible is the authoritative word of God? Yeah, I, uh, with respect, I guess I do. Now the response. Well, then the Bible says when God created man, he said one man, one woman cleaved together for life. That's a family. Jesus in the new Testament reaffirms that all the writers of the old and the new Testament affirm it.
[00:09:16] Adultery, bestiality, homosexuality was punishable by death according to the old Testament law because it was so serious in those early years because it literally shattered the hope of civilization. The new Testament offers us, of course, grace. Those sins are sins. They are forgivable. Jesus died to redeem us from those sins. We're all sinners. You don't want to categorize. What does the state have to do with it? The point at this juncture is, well, he's representing the state. He's coming back and saying, I'm a Catholic and I'm a Catholic.
[00:09:44] And somehow this fits into my Catholicism. And I'm saying, well, what's your authority? All right. Um, so there's Gavin Newsom, a Catholic for gay marriage. Now we're not talking about gay marriage or anything like that, but, uh, the point of this video really for me is he's, I guess you can call him a Joe Biden Democrat.
[00:10:05] Um, in the sense of, as long as it fits my, a Joe Biden Catholic. Yeah. Thank you. A Joe Biden Catholic who is whatever fits my narrative, but I'm still somehow a practicing and devout Catholic. Um, and I'm still full of it in the sense that I got married in the church. I imagine this was to Kimberly go for it. Go go foil at the time. Like, why can't I say her name? Go foil.
[00:10:30] I can't say it. Kimberly. I'm like, Kimberly, Kimberly. Yeah. The, his previous wife. Um, and you know, it's the, something weird was about him, like rolling his eyes to like a lot of that stuff that when I watched the video, I was like, well, that's kind of off putting.
[00:10:51] Like the pastor's going off on stuff, you know, this and the Bible doesn't allow bestiality and adultery. And he's just kind of sitting there like rolling his eyes, like, and it's like, are you really a practicing Catholic? Or did you just say it? I think he's just trying to say that to make some sort of point of like, well, I'm a practicing guy. Like I'm for gay marriage.
[00:11:12] And it's like, that doesn't excuse. Like the, the religion's actual stance on it just because you are. And I know he's trying to make it sound to people in California, like, oh, it's okay if I'm Catholic and I vote for this, but he's full of it. And I think he's just, you know, constant. I haven't heard him say he's been a practicing Catholic and I don't know how many years. Uh, I didn't even know he was Catholic until someone sent me that video. So I was pretty shocked by it. Any thoughts on it?
[00:11:41] Yes. Um, like you said, we're not here to, you know, debate gay marriage whatsoever, but it was more like when he was asked, do you believe in the Bible? And then he's like, I'm not here to debate theology. Let's that's I'm Christian non-denominational. You're Christian Catholic. You and I have some disagreements on how that means that we, you know, practice our Christianity.
[00:12:08] Christianity. But if someone's like, do you believe in the Bible? You're like, yeah, I do. I'm a devout Catholic. I believe in the Bible. So when asked me, do you believe in the Bible? Yes, I do. I'm a Christian. I believe in the Bible.
[00:12:21] That is, it's not a hard question. It's not hard to answer that. Now you and I and Gavin could have different interpretations. Like, like he said, I'm not here to debate theology. And obviously that's why there's different denominations of Christianity, because a lot often are, there are little like nuances of theology.
[00:12:43] But the way that he acts so bothered and offended to even discuss is like, how do you say, I'm a devout Catholic, I'm a I'm a practicing Catholic, and then just be like, but don't bring up the Bible to me. That's what's weird.
[00:12:56] Yeah. Well, I think the pastor put him in his place. And that's really the point of this is that the pastor put him in his place of like, you say you're a practicing Catholic, yet you kind of shrug your shoulders about the Bible being the word of God. And therefore, you don't really listen to the word of God. So therefore, you're not really, are you really a practicing Catholic?
[00:13:18] So, but this is when confronted with almost anything. You know, even like the, we've obviously been talking about the fires recently, that's been the biggest news of California. And there's all kinds of bad news in California all the time. And whenever he's confronted with, did you do X, Y, and Z? Didn't you said this? He gets he does that he like kind of stands back and throws up his hands. Look, I'm not here to debate. And you know, he has all the hand motions. I'm not here to discuss and we're going to discuss it.
[00:13:48] I'm not here to discuss and we're going to find out, but there's never a direct answer from him with anything. And it's like, if, if he did it, if he said, I'm not practicing anything, I don't subscribe to any religion, none of us are going to be like, Ooh, it's just like, okay, cool. That's, that's you, Gavin. You do you, Gavin. Like, but then when he's like, I am this, I am practicing this. I just don't do anything to actually practice it. I am the governor of California, but I don't actually govern.
[00:14:17] Uh, I am a solve homelessness, but I don't do anything to solve homelessness. It's just like, okay, who and what are you? Exactly. Stand for what you do. Um, I don't know if you saw that video that was going around. It was pretty popular in social media of the guy who's like imitating Gavin with the hands. And I was like, this guy. Yeah. And it was like, so perfect how he did like the hands and like did this and this, and then he did this.
[00:14:42] And all kinds of things. The hand motions are completely exaggerated, but I love that. They got worse and worse to the point where he slapped the guy. Look, I am the governor of California. Like it's just. It was just, that's, that's Gavin in a nutshell. I was like, I'm glad someone saw the hand motion. We've made mention of the hand motions on this show plenty of times. Um, and the dancing that he did about. That video was interesting because that is a much younger Newsom from like 20-ish years ago.
[00:15:11] And while he's still Newsom, he's a little less polished, you know, which of course he's had years of experience now. But it was like, even though he was still Newsom and he was still not going to answer questions directly. It was like, oh, that's, that's a young Newsom who's still learning the ropes of his, he's, he's, you know, he's still learning his hand motions in that video. He's still learning his, his pose and. He's not as confident on his feet. It didn't seem like.
[00:15:39] So, um, so speaking of Newsom, uh, last week was the big trip for president Trump out to Southern California. Um, visited the Palisades. He met Gavin Newsom on the tarmac. They shook hands and talked a little bit. Uh, Gavin then departed and then didn't go with Trump to go look at the Palisades. We'll look at the damage. Something about security.
[00:16:05] Like he couldn't, they, they couldn't go to the presser together because of security, which is kind of odd considering the president of the United States was at this presser. So why are you worried about security? You'd think they have the best security in the world there for the president of the United States. Not to mention the mayor of LA was there. Several congressmen were there. Uh, and Congresswoman, young Kim was there. Um, and then assembly members were there. So there were a lot of important people there.
[00:16:35] So security blaming it on like, Oh, it's two last minute. We can't do security was kind of a, an odd excuse. I just don't think he wanted to go. Newsom can snap. Like, first of all, he probably has 24 seven security anyway, but don't you think he can like snap his fingers and be like, I'm going there. And the people are at the ready. I mean, with how many people that they employ, you would think at any moment's notice, it's like, here's where we're headed. And there's a team. So the other one's a little weird.
[00:17:03] It's a weird, it's a lame excuse for him not to show up. I just don't think he wanted to confront people. And there were people there who were part of the community who were calling out like mayor Karen Bass. Um, there was a congressman there who was pushing back on stuff there. I think it was funny how they were like, so outnumbered because Trump invited, obviously all the like Republican assembly members and Republican congressmen and stuff like that.
[00:17:30] And then it was Karen Bass and this other Democrat who represents the district. And, um, they were completely outmatched. A lot of people were kind of yelling and calling him out and questioning. I don't, I, I don't think Gavin likes being approached by people. And we've seen numerous videos. The most recent was definitely that one where the lady kind of came up to him and was crying and he was doing the whole, oh, I'm on the phone with the White House. And then she's like, well, tell them we need help. And he's like, well, I'm trying to get cell service to call the White House.
[00:18:00] And it's like, so are you on the phone with the White House? Are you not on the phone with the White House? Which one is it? Um, he doesn't like being approached. Like when he does his walks through homeless encampments or bad parts of town, people kind of run up to him or like, hey, Gavin, like, why aren't you fixing this? And he doesn't say anything. He never responds to him. It's, it's odd for a guy. And we all know he's going to run for president in 2028.
[00:18:23] It's odd for a guy who wants to run for president is not very friendly with the public. Like he kind of shuns the public and doesn't talk to them or engage with them and say what you will about like Trump. Like he is always talking to people. Like he's always going out there and talking to people, shaking hands and stuff. Um, so maybe that's one area he's not as polished as he should be.
[00:18:48] If he's planning to run for president, he just doesn't like being confronted by people, which is why I think he used the excuse of, oh, I can't go because of security details. But, um, uh, what do you think? I feel like we need to, this is one of those things that we need to research and go back and like, look at videos of, was he always like this? Or is it just as his failures have clearly, you know, come to light?
[00:19:12] Is he starting to be more because he doesn't want to be confronted with all of his issues, just like he avoided the state of the state last year? Did he, did he just do a prerecorded one last year? Or was that this year? I don't know. He was supposed to do one this year because he was going to do the whole Trump proving. Yeah, he was late because of Jimmy Carter. And then the wildfires. Okay. Okay. Those are, those are actual, I feel like those are real excuses, but, but now anyway.
[00:19:41] Um, yeah, I do wonder if this is, and that's another reason why like people, you know, people tell you and I like, oh, you should run for office. Or we're like, no, we shouldn't run for office. Like just because we have our beliefs doesn't make us qualified to actually be in office. But also I know for me, I don't necessarily like being approached. I do. I like talking to people. I don't want anyone to think like, don't approach me.
[00:20:07] I don't mean it like that, but I am actually a shy introvert. And so as much as I run my mouth, I do feel awkward in public. And I would then, people would look at me and they'd be like, wow, she's like a rude city council woman. You know, she doesn't want to talk to people, but I don't think that's the case with Gavin. I think, I mean, he's been in the spotlight for almost three decades.
[00:20:32] And I do wonder if as his policies like have progressively been worse and now they're coming to light. I do wonder if he's just hiding. Like you said, he's just running away. Doesn't want to be approached. What does it want to be confronted? It has nothing to do with this personality rather his failures. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's when you can't control it as well.
[00:20:58] Like he's very friendly and can glad hand when it suits him and he's at a friendly event. But out and about, I mean, he's like, you know, there's a lot of problems California has. And when he's out and about people want to confront him about it. Like you're walking through a homeless encampment in the Tenderloin or something. There's going to be someone confronting you and being like, you know, what are you doing about this?
[00:21:25] Like this area is falling apart and he just has nothing to say. Same thing with the fires. Like this woman is clearly in a state. She's clearly distraught and she's running up to him and he's lying about being on the phone with the White House and then trying to get cell service to be on the phone with the White House. So he's and he's like just trying to run away. Like he's using an excuse of like, oh, I'm on the phone with the White House. I can't talk to you right now.
[00:21:52] So that's why I don't think he wanted to go. And this kind of leads me to my next point about the whole trip. Obviously, we did a video. I did a video on Karen Bass and what happened there. She got like called out by Trump. Like they went to the mat, the two of them.
[00:22:09] And so he probably just didn't want to get in a tough with Trump on TV, which oddly enough would have been a good political opportunity for him to get in a tough with President Trump on live TV. Maybe he just wasn't confident. I don't know. It's just he I think he he's a big fan of like he he's good in controlled situations of where he can control it. Yeah. I don't think he wanted to go to an event where there were citizens who were pissed off at him.
[00:22:39] He didn't know what was happening. He was greatly outnumbered. He had to face like all these Republicans. I don't know. I think he just he chickened out, to be completely honest for anything else, for a lack of anything else. I think he just completely chickened out to even be there. I agree. So and going off about the Karen Bass thing, I think for a lot of people. It it might have been cathartic for what President Trump did.
[00:23:08] And I think it was him showing up in the presser and all that calling out California. It was very cathartic for a lot of people who are frustrated with California and just him being on the ground. And what a difference it was from. I mean, it's crazy to think it's only been like, oh, eight days since President Trump has been inaugurated. Does it not feel like it feels like it's been like three months already? It's like so far, it's it's like six months long.
[00:23:38] It's it's crazy to think just like two weeks ago. Then President Biden was visiting California, getting a debrief with Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass. And you look at the difference between him who had nothing to say. I don't think he knew what was going on or where he was. I don't think he cared where he was. And then you see President Trump who comes out. We do a very good ice cream. Salt and straw is very good. Handles very good.
[00:24:07] Lots of options. A lot of good options. But yeah, I think it was a good. It's completely different. I think President Trump tapped into that anger and frustration that a lot of people had about the water, about permitting. He kind of called out Karen Bass about permitting and about how long it's going to take. It's going to take like a week. And then there's all these rules. And like I'll go into it real quick. Like if you look at the executive order, it's not as fast as she claims it's going to be.
[00:24:36] She's like, oh, they'll get started right away. They can start cleaning out. As long as you abide by like this water act and this environmental thing and this toxic thing and all that stuff. It just like it's not as fast. But I think it was cathartic for a lot of people, for lack of a better term, for people who are frustrated. And President Trump showing up and just kind of being like their voice of being angry at L.A. and the officials.
[00:25:05] And then kind of also like boosting up the firefighters who actually were fighting the fires. He did. He treaded that line pretty carefully of going after those in charge and then also boosting up the people who were actually out there doing the work. So we'll see what else comes at this. Well, actually, there is something that comes with this. We'll talk about it in a little bit. Any more thoughts on Trump's visit to California? No, but I appreciate it.
[00:25:35] I mean, it was literally his first week in office. And while he was signing 600,000 executive orders, he took the time to, you know, go visit North Carolina and come here. And I appreciate that he's showing by action that he does care about these areas. He does care about the people. So I do appreciate that. It is quite the change to go from President Biden, who you didn't know.
[00:26:02] You forgot he was president sometimes because he never showed up to President Trump, who one minute I'm watching the news. He's in North Carolina giving a press conference talking to people. So the next he's here in California. And you're like, whoa, like this guy. And then the next day is in Vegas. So he's like all over the place. And he even do like that same day that morning. I he delivered the speech for the March of Life. Then he was in North Carolina. Then he was in California literally same day.
[00:26:31] It was a lot. I'm like, man, this guy has more energy than I do. And then what was kind of gross to me is that the March for Life thing is that I guess a bunch of prod boys went to the March for Life. But people instead of being like, oh, good, they're pro life. Yay. It was, oh, look, the prod boy is going to hear Trump speak. And that's how they spun that.
[00:26:54] And I was just like, it was just was reminiscent of the Super Bowl a couple years ago when Rihanna showed up very pregnant. And then people were like, her show was so demonic and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, actually, this is like the most modest halftime show we've had at the Super Bowl in a decade. And this was an opportunity for us to be look at look at her. She's this very accomplished singer entertainer. And she's not letting a pregnancy stop her.
[00:27:23] She's like, like, it was like we could have had the opportunity to be like pro life. Rihanna, yay. You know, look, she's she's showing women can still have their career and babies, too. You know, and and so then they took that moment to be like, oh, the sick prod boys are pro life. Like, is that supposed to be a bad thing? Like, how dare they be pro life? But instead, it was fun. Like, see, they're, you know, showing up to their king to hear him speak.
[00:27:51] And just just a lot of nonsense. I don't know who's going to win the Super Bowl. And frankly, I can't stand either team. I can't stand the Chiefs because they get all the calls in the world. And as a New York fan, I hate Philadelphia. So can't stand either.
[00:28:13] I can guarantee I don't know who's going to win, but I can guarantee the next morning there will be plenty of clicks and reels about claiming that the halftime show is demonic. I didn't even realize because I'm not a sports person. I didn't even realize that I was talking about that and that. Oh, yeah, we've got the Super Bowl coming. Super Bowl is coming up. You make that connection.
[00:28:36] I can guarantee you on February 10th, the next day, a bunch of conservative influencers will claim that it was demonic. Yes. Whether it was or not, but they'll find something. So this is true. Maybe that might be the cringe moment of the week. How funny. We didn't mean to talk about the Super Bowl, but. We did not need that. This is why you do it live. It's good sometimes. Just even performing at the halftime show.
[00:29:06] Legit don't know. I have no idea who is performing at the halftime show. If someone's in the comments and wants to tell us. If someone's in the comments and wants to tell us who's performing at the halftime show. Probably not the whole show, but now I'm curious. I don't know. It's funny how it went from like we were joking. How, oh, they keep showing all these old acts like Rolling Stones, The Who, Paul McCartney. And you're like, oh, it's all for these old boomers. And all of a sudden it switched to like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. And you're like, wait a second.
[00:29:36] Are we the old people now? That's classic rock. That's, they consider that classic rock now. Classic. It's 30 years old, if not more. Stop. All right. Anyway, speaking of things that are older than 30 years old. Scott Weiner, our favorite legislator. And we say that with a whole bunch of sarcasm. Introduced a bill called Senate Bill 222.
[00:30:02] Because never let a crisis go to waste and use it to grandstand to make headlines in Scott Weiner's defense. It's called the Affordable Insurance and Climate Recovery Act. So this is from the California Globe. Scott Weiner has a surprise waiting in his bag of tricks. That sounds disgusting. What do you think? I don't think the writer should have never put bag of tricks and Scott Weiner in the same sentence. Don't put those things together.
[00:30:32] I did not read it that way when I actually like read the article. But hearing it out loud, I'm like, oh boy. Oh boy. It goes out to say he wants you to be distracted by the big oil boogeyman instead of focusing on irresponsible lawmakers who have been passing ridiculous, ruinous laws for years. These climate-driven disasters, these climate-fueled disasters, according to Senator Weiner, are causing all kinds of harm in our state. Quote, who pays for them? He asked.
[00:31:01] It's us, taxpayers and insurance policyholders. Scott Weiner goes out. Are we supposed to be worried about taxpayers paying things? Is that suddenly a concern? Yeah. All of a sudden, now it's we got to protect the taxpayers so they pay for the stuff that we want. It goes on to say the fossil fuel industry is fueling climate change. They, the fossil fuel industry, knew it was leading to disaster for decades and have incapacitated lawmakers.
[00:31:29] Senator Weiner says his bill SB-222 will ensure that the fossil fuel industry and those harmed by climate change disasters will be made whole. Uh, weiner's new bill will hold big oil responsible for natural disasters in California and in doing so will allow insurance companies and victims of fires, floods, rain, and sleet, wind events, mudslides, and earthquakes to sue fossil fuel companies for damages. What the? What the?
[00:31:57] As a political friend asked, quote, will they hold a press conference tomorrow to sue C's candy for obesity? Exactly. Uh, in response to Senator Weiner's announcement on Monday, the Western States Petroleum Association released a statement, quote, it's a shame that Senator Scott Weiner and Senator Sasha Renee, Renee Perez said, see the Los Angeles fire as nothing more than a political opportunity. We need real solutions to help victims in the wake of this tragedy, not theatrics.
[00:32:26] Voters are tired of this approach. Everyday consumers, including Senator Weiner, rely on and choose to use gasoline-powered cars and purchase products made from fossil fuels. Our economy depends on oil and gas, even as California looks to reduce its carbon footprint. Uh, the announcement of today's proposal and the latest installment of an ongoing effort to scapegoat our industry and thousands of hardworking women and men who keep California running for political gain while complex problems continue to go unsolved.
[00:32:53] So, um, right. There is a video. Are you ready for the video of him explaining? Yeah, I can't wait to hear him speak. I know he's your favorite and you love to hear him speak. So this is Senator Scott Weiner explaining his bill SB 222. We understand this bill is meant to improve insurance affordability by putting much of the costs on fossil fuel companies.
[00:33:22] Can you go over how that would exactly work? What the bill will do is it'll allow people who are harmed, uh, to, um, uh, to be able to sue fossil fuel companies to recover, uh, for the harm caused to them.
[00:33:37] And so that it doesn't, uh, the increased costs doesn't get entirely passed along to insurance policyholders. So that's the gist of the bill. Okay.
[00:33:57] And logistically wise, I mean, as you mentioned, the problem here, so many homeowners have either been dropped or had their plans not renewed, pushing them into the state's fair plan, which is really kind of the last resort insure. But it's also expensive. How is this bill going to work alongside that? Is this going to subsidize what the state doesn't want to pay?
[00:34:17] Um, it will, the bill also, uh, will require an evaluation for whether the benefits of the fair plan suing the oil industry outweigh the costs. And if that evaluation shows that it makes sense, uh, for the fair plan, uh, to sue, then the fair plan will be required to sue. Uh, because again, even when the, if the fair plan runs out of money, uh, the money then comes, um, effectively from policyholders and increased premiums, uh, for all of us.
[00:34:47] Uh, and so, uh, you know, this is just, this is about bringing the oil industry to the table, uh, to participate in these massive costs, not just from the LA wildfires. These are unprecedented costs from the LA wildfires, just a complete catastrophe. But we're, we've seen other wildfires in California in the last few months fueled by climate change. We've seen, uh, uh, supercharged storms causing massive damage.
[00:35:14] Uh, so this is an ongoing issue and we have to grapple with it and the oil industry has to be part of the solution. Yeah, you're right. It seems like every year California has some kind of devastating wildfire. If this bill is passed, Senator, how can fire victims actually start using this new bill to their advantage? Would it, would this be able to benefit the victims of this latest wildfire?
[00:35:36] Um, so, uh, uh, yes, um, there's a three-year statute of limitations in the bill, meaning that if, if you're harmed and it's a climate, uh, fuel disaster, uh, you have three years to file suit. Um, and so, uh, if the bill passes, and let me be clear, this is going to be a really hard bill to pass. Uh, the oil is extremely powerful and has unending resources.
[00:36:03] Uh, and is really good at manipulating the politics of these issues. But if it passes, um, then we believe that, uh, that, that there's a very good argument that the, that the folks being harmed now, uh, will be able to sue. California state Senator Scott Wiener. Thank you so much, Senator. And just for context, that is CBS national news.
[00:36:26] So, uh, he got his moment to shine on national news, not unlike local CBS eight or something like that, like actual CBS news nationally. Uh, there's so much to unpack with all of this.
[00:36:39] Um, first off, um, as an attorney myself, this is one of the most ridiculous legal premises I can think of when I read this bill, because, all right, let me just say, like, I'm not a personal injury attorney, but it's, it's, you know, we, we've covered personal injury and torts and stuff like that in law school. I worked for whatever.
[00:37:04] I understand the basic logistics of how do you prove an injury if you've been injured or harmed by someone. So usually when you do that, you have to go to court and say, I've been harmed. And then the court wants to know, okay, who harmed you? And you say that person over there harmed me and they go, how did they harm you?
[00:37:29] And usually it's, uh, well, I was in my car and I got hit or I was on my bicycle and someone ran me over or someone was negligent. And they left like a manhole cover open. And I fell in the manhole cover. Like you have to prove like somebody did something that harmed you.
[00:37:47] There has to be this causal connection of like, whether it's proximate cause or direct cause or something like that, an actual injury and actual damages. Here, Scott Weiner has thrown hundreds and hundreds of years, centuries of jurisprudence and legal ideas on torts dating all the way back to like English law out the window to say, I don't like oil companies.
[00:38:17] It's their fault that there was a wildfire in Los Angeles. Therefore, we're going to be able to sue them. Why? Because I don't like them. And I think they caused climate change. Well, how can you prove that they cause climate change? Because they did. Because I said so. There is no causal link between the wildfire directly being the responsibility of oil companies. And I don't care. You could be the best attorney in the world.
[00:38:46] You're not going to be able to prove that in court that this oil company that you are suing directly caused a wildfire or a mudslide. Like now he's saying mudslides and rain, like everything under the sun. Earthquakes. Earthquakes is wild. Earthquakes. Yeah. The oil companies are responsible for earthquakes. They're just responsible for all weather. Earthquakes. So when I hear this, I'm like, this is absolutely not even drilling here.
[00:39:15] We barely have any refineries or any drills open. Like they've taken all the drills offline. I think we have something like, I think I did the math once. And I'd like to say it's around, we have 25 that are basically sitting there doing nothing. We do have a ton of oil in California that we could drill for. And it could be done under the supervision of like the California Labor Department to make sure that everyone.
[00:39:44] You probably have this info on the Calipublican page. I probably, yeah. Slight plug for Calipublican caucus. Calipublicancaucus.org. Right. Calipublicancaucus.org. Go check it out. Yeah. I remember when we were writing the Calipublican platform, I looked up how many oil wells we had. But we don't even drill for it anymore. Oil companies refine oil.
[00:40:08] But basically, again, your point is perfectly valid as to what is it the oil company is doing here in California that makes it subject to jurisdiction here in California. They're not drilling. They're refining. They may be transporting some oil. But what is it that they're doing that causes these things?
[00:40:33] So legally, I look at this and just go, this is an insane law to think that you can just go, I don't like you. I'm going to blame everything. Every natural disaster is going to be the fault of the oil company. So I feel like, first of all, this probably won't pass because it's so ridiculously absurd. But then again, California is ridiculously absurd.
[00:40:58] But I feel like this is like the equivalent of a Tesla owner getting drunk. Like they go out one night, they get really drunk. They drive their Tesla home on the way home. They crash into their neighbor's house. It starts an electric fire and the neighbor sues the electric company. Yeah, it's it's you harmed me. Electricity harmed me. Therefore, I'm going to go after the electricity company. Mm hmm.
[00:41:29] That is what we call in the legal world. That's an intervening cause. When something else gets involved and causes you harm. But anyway, that's not the point of tonight. Should I go over torts? But as I had to give it my legal opinion of like, this is absolutely insane. You can't do this. I don't know how you even will find them responsible. So then this bill throwing in the anybody who like.
[00:41:57] You know, you can also sue if they somehow shared disinformation or something about what climate change. I don't even I didn't fully understand what. Yeah. You sent this to me like a couple hours ago because this had not even been published. Like I was trying to find the actual text of this bill. And I couldn't yesterday and it was just published today. So this is brand new information. Literally, this is hot off the presses. You're watching this live like this was a couple hours ago.
[00:42:27] So he slipped this in there into SB 222. It says responsible party means a firm, corporation, company, partnership, society, joint stock company, or any other entity or association that engaged in misleading and deceptive practices, including intentional lies or the provision of misinformation or disinformation about the connection between its fossil fuel products and climate change and extreme weather.
[00:42:57] So to define a. So this is the responsible party. So this is what his bill is saying. You are responsible and therefore we can sue you is even if you've engaged in what they call misinformation. So not only do we have a huge legal issue with you can't call you can't prove causation of how you actually how they actually cause this.
[00:43:26] Now you have a First Amendment argument in there as well. So this thing is just fraught with like constitutional issues, legal issues, due process issues like this is just absolutely a pipe dream. And I mean, he was he was smart in being on CBS News to be like, well, it's gonna be really hard to pass. He's already he already knows this is not going to pass.
[00:43:51] And, you know, for all we we attack Newsom on, I will probably bet good money that Newsom will veto this. This will not become a law because this is just absolutely insane. Unless less he's like under investigation after all this for for other policies that are actually responsible for these fires. In which case, like, yes, the oil companies. Yes. Look at the oil companies and I'm signing this bill. Right.
[00:44:21] Don't forget, just a couple of weeks ago before the wildfires, wasn't he doing the whole special session on oil companies and price gouging or something like you had that whole thing? He loves his special legislative sessions. Last week has been a really long year, Phil. I have no idea what happened. It's been a long time. So that's Scott Wiener's bill. And that's why we call him our favorite legislator, because he gives us a ton of content to talk about.
[00:44:48] So misinformation is you sent that to me. I'm like, that is insane. Because when I read that, I was just like, what is this is the same California Democrats who like wanted to shut you up online. This was, you know, the same California Democrats down here in San Diego County that passed a resolution about misinformation, like COVID misinformation that you shouldn't listen to people.
[00:45:16] It was it was like a stance they took about misinformation. Like they were obsessed with COVID misinformation, which funny enough, all the stuff that they pushed ended up being misinformation. But now they love controlling speech. They love controlling dissenters.
[00:45:34] So does that mean like if you are someone who posts on social media about like whether or not climate change is real or the effects of climate change or the effect of humans, humans on climate change or what's the truth about climate change or the history of climate change? Does that mean you could be responsible? Like, are you considered one of those people who like you're spreading misinformation about climate change?
[00:46:03] Therefore, you could be responsible. What if you have a big social media following and you're here in California and then all of a sudden you post something about climate change? You're like, oh, you're responsible. You spread misinformation. So, yeah, I actually thought about that. Like, what if you work when you're literally like working at the AM PM at a Chevron gas station and you post on X about something or and then they're like, oh, this is disinformation or misinformation.
[00:46:31] Are you now like the people can see you because you you work for one of these corporations and you're lies? How deep? How far does this go? Does Scott Wiener think these things through before he authors these crazy bills? I do still appreciate the car. You don't have to prove your car was locked when it was broken into. It made sense.
[00:47:00] What about, you know what they say about broken clocks? They're right twice a day. So I don't I don't I honestly don't think Scott Wiener thought this through and just did this because it was a great way to grab headlines and get on CBS News. But that's it does feel like that because. If Pelosi, if she ever retires, I think Wiener is going to run. He's going for her spot. And she kind of talked about that last term.
[00:47:29] And so he was going to run for her seat. Then she decided to run again. So he decided to run again. But I think he's termed out after this or at least will be soon. And so, yeah, he's obviously thinking forward about, well, got to start getting national attention because I'm probably running for Congress soon enough. You know, it's the sad thing is that. Yeah. And this is really, again, a problem.
[00:47:51] Why we need to focus again on local politicians and Sacramento and our local stuff and who your state senator is and your assemblyman, which will lead perfectly into our next segment in a second. Stuff that like Scott Wiener puts out. It's usually so all the crazy stuff that like people laugh at California about. Now, I guarantee 80 to 90 percent comes from Scott Wiener or other Bay Area politicians.
[00:48:18] It's always these policies that like make headline news. And then you get people who are like, oh, how stupid is California? Like, oh, look at them. They're so stupid. Like, that's California for you. And you're like, no, like we're not all like this. We're not all crazies. The Oklahoma Midwest accent. Well, that's that's what I think. It's people in those deep red states in the Midwest who are like, oh, that's California for you. You know, doing that crazy stuff.
[00:48:49] I'm fixing to just forget about California. Like that's. Yeah. Why don't I? I just can't wait till it falls into the ocean. You know what I mean? All right. No offense to anybody in the Midwest. We love you. You are sounding like my ex brother-in-law. And that's that's fine. People see this news come out of California and they're like, right, like California is just so darn weird. And it's like that's one guy.
[00:49:18] It's one guy out of 40 plus million people. It's like how non-Christians look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Like God hates gays and kill the military and all that. Like, no, that's not true. That's that's not Christianity. That's not God. That's you guys are some weird, freaky coal. No. And but a lot of people see that and be like, see Christianity. And it's like, no, no, no. It's it's like, yeah, not everybody in California is Scott Wiener or a Scott Wiener fan.
[00:49:48] Christians are not. There's always some. Yes. But it's not. They're not. God hates gays in the military. Like, no, that's. Final point on Scott Wiener, which leads us into our next point about. That's a weird transition from Scott Wiener to Trump. No, there's there's a. There's a method to my madness. I swear there's a method to my madness. I'm very curious to hear how you just.
[00:50:12] So as I was alluding to at the beginning of the show, you had sent me the news that supposedly Trump had sent in the military to open the water in California and it made social media go nuts. Okay. Wait, I have to say.
[00:50:32] Going back to the Bible, that post literally made me think of the whole like Moses when they the Israelites needed water and he like took his staff and like hit the rock or whatever. And like. Water split out. I was. And I just want to say real quick, I'm not comparing Trump to Moses, but that's just the thought that entered my head when I read this truth social post.
[00:51:25] Yeah. trust trump and it's like i think maybe he embellished a little bit i don't know why he said that he did send the military huge believe me we said in the military it was huge it was an invasion like you've never seen before we invaded the water um he does embellish a little bit i don't know why he said the military showed up military didn't show up there's no reports that
[00:51:53] the military showed up sorry because i interrupted you right when you were about to so read do you have it in front of you do i have his post in front of me i could get his post in front of me do you want me to read his post i want you to read his post okay so that we have full context of what we're talking about okay you can see i gotta pull this out you can just pull my text message if i
[00:52:17] can just pull up my profile on x uh okay uh this is from donald trump on real or true social he said the united states military just entered the great state of california and under emergencies powers turned on the water flowing abundantly from pacific northwest and beyond the days of putting
[00:52:42] fake environmental argument over the people are over enjoy the water california exclamation exclamation exclamation point and that was his whole post again i don't know why he said the united states military just entered the great state of california there were some people who were like this is trump crossing the rubicon this is it this is him declaring that he's he's not taking it anymore
[00:53:07] some people will say this is a lie because california is not great uh yeah all right people so here's here's my rationale and again i'm going to get pushback on this but you know what if if there's nothing else you can learn from this show is that we are not rah-rah cheerleaders for one side or the other um this is why we we call a show like equal opportunity political commentator
[00:53:34] we we talk about both sides i don't like this and this did not sit well with me um i know people were cheering this on and they were like this is amazing we love that trump is doing this and then i said like look there's no reporting of this and people were like well how do you know there's no reporting of this like what if they're covering this up because it's such a great win and i'm like
[00:54:00] if this happened like if this really happened and trump sent in the military to open water in california like just turn on the spigot it would be wall-to-wall coverage on every news station in the world because it would be so outlandish and crazy for him to do such a thing
[00:54:26] that people would just be screaming from the rooftops all day long about how trump has really become a dictator he's now using the military to do whatever he wants and trample on states rights and don't you think gavin newsom would be out there at a podium or something screaming about trump is invading states rights and this is our jurisdiction this is our right to water like this would have been wall-to-wall coverage of trump being a dictator all day long
[00:54:52] trump's wall trump's wall-to-wall coverage and you didn't hear anything there was nothing like i watched the news today nothing there was some talk about i guess federal funds and medicaid and stuff like that got shut off um but this this there was no talk about this so that's how i know it didn't happen for sure because if it did happen they would have been reporting on it all the time
[00:55:19] but my post that i wrote was this is the problem when you worry more about who's in the white house and not in your state house trump is not king i'm sorry trump is not king you did not elect him to be a king you don't want him to be julius caesar and take over as emperor of the united states
[00:55:43] and i i don't like this argument and there are some people who will push back and say you know that that's a weak argument bro like you can't you can't say that argument i don't like when your guy gets into office and greatly expands executive power because 10 times out of 10 the next person who comes in if they're not on your team guess what they're going to use that executive power and it just becomes an
[00:56:11] arms race of like who's using executive power more like who can stretch executive power more and more to the brink so i'm not a fan of this and again like trump can't solve everything in california i know a lot of people think he can i know they think he can come here and do a lot of things everyone's everyone attacks him on our our post on instagram like trump go fix this they said this therefore go fix it
[00:56:38] yeah trump's gonna fix it trump's gonna fix this he's gonna get you know they're gonna they're gonna look into this i'm like okay but there's only so much the federal government and the executive branch can do regarding california and it's it's a short-sighted look of how to fix california um in the sense of like having trump try and do all this stuff which he probably legally can or cannot
[00:57:06] do like sending military into turn on water which i don't think he has legal authority to even do we talk about well you you can get your or finish your point but can we talk about what actually happened with the water yeah uh yeah i was just gonna finish my point which is uh what he can or cannot do is only going to be for the next four years to fix california we're gonna have to really
[00:57:30] buckle down and actually focus on local elections and focus on those who are in sacramento and focus on those who are in city and i know we harp on this all the time but it is so damn important otherwise you know there's not going to be a president king who's going to come in here and fix california willy-nilly and it's kind of like his whole thing his whole thing where he came out and
[00:57:57] said well i'll give you federal aid for the wildfires um but you have to pass voting voter id and i'm like that's just like not even a non-starter like davin can't do that with a stroke of a pen like he can't just make voter id happen like it has to go through the legislature but anyway that's my rant and um
[00:58:21] yeah say no to king trump so into all kings you raise very valid points and i do agree with you i did post that post last night on instagram i sent it to you on text i sent it to my family chat which like being my my parents and my sisters we have our text message and i sent it to them and i i waited i don't even know exactly how long but i waited a bit because i i kept going to x i kept
[00:58:46] going to other news sites to see like where where is this being covered but then i still shared it and i shared my opinion of like i i forget exactly what i said because i ended up deleting it and i'll explain that too but um i was just like i know that this is going to be challenged because this is when i okay i was believing this actually happened so i'm like i know this will be challenged and people will say trump doesn't have the right to this but i have been saying for years i wish someone would
[00:59:12] come in and literally physically overthrow newson because he's you know gotten so out of control and so um and i have said that for years i'm like where are the actual men that just go and like pick newson up and be like you don't you don't live here anymore like you know and and i know that that's wrong too because people voted for him and all that but um and now i know that i'm gonna get pushed back for this because it's gonna be like you know the election was stolen whatever that's neither here
[00:59:38] nor there um then of course it was a long after that i found out it wasn't true and so then i ran and wrote a correction i'm like this is a lie i don't even know why he said this because it's so far out there from the truth that like and i don't know that i think that trump just sat down and made up a story but was he fed just like was he confused fed wrong information i don't even know what happened but
[01:00:04] i was just like this is a lie and and trump and true social whoever posts for him his administration should be held accountable for this because you know this happened and i ended up deleting my prior story not because i was ashamed that i said something wrong because when i say something wrong i do try to go back and like correct be like hey i was wrong this is wrong information but people you know might read
[01:00:29] the story and then not read the next story and kind of like then they go with it they repost it before the next one and so i just didn't want to be responsible for more sharing of this completely that's not even like misinformation it was just story it was a fairy tale so i ended up deleting that post um that story because of that so in case anyone who follows me because a lot of people did respond like to the story oh my gosh like this is crazy but good for him for coming and doing this because it
[01:00:59] was necessary stuff like that then when i shared the correction i was like this is a lie and trump needs to be held accountable for it um i did get like people like wow why what but i did get a lot of like no it's california they're the liars newsom lied the so-and-so i don't trust these departments they lied they lied and i and i my response was like don't you think if this actually happened the
[01:01:23] media would be all over this like this would be the biggest story there were i mean on the ground reporters helicopters flying above to see all the things and newsom would be there with a slick back hair at 4 a.m like on this you know and like you said nobody not a peep anywhere and so um yeah that didn't happen and i do think that we should people should be like not that that's the
[01:01:51] most pressing thing in america but i think that we should be holding trump accountable to this because if this continues what a disaster to have all these random stories of things that never happen and that would be a big story a huge story you know so yeah um i i completely agree it's um it's sloppy
[01:02:13] on his part to to put something like that out that is so fantastical um i get i agree with you i don't know why he put that out i don't know why he said he sent in the military to open the water and enjoy california it just like so what happened was it came this water pump came back online after maintenance
[01:02:38] so then it started pumping water again yes that's why it happened so that was the true story the true story is that it was under maintenance and the maintenance was done and they brought it back and they like put it back online so that's why the water started again and i believe it was a little pump and it was down for three days yeah and so it wasn't they didn't advertise it well because right now everyone that the big thing in california obviously back to the fires that we've been talking
[01:03:04] about for weeks and there's this big thing of why wasn't there water in the hydrants why was the reservoir empty how why haven't we captured water and so i can see why they wouldn't want to make this huge ordeal out of like hey we're shutting down this pump for like maybe they didn't even know how long but like we have to do maintenance on it and maybe that was even scheduled maintenance like for all we know this is like an annual thing or biannual thing or whatever it was scheduled and they just like turned it off fixed it you know like as they do and then they turn it back on
[01:03:34] quietly but somehow somewhere the story was picked up as if it was something dramatic and and and it wasn't and i could see how they wouldn't want to make it like hey we're shutting down this pump because then i would be like oh my god another year you guys are responsible for this so they just kind of quietly like went in we're like okay we're gonna do our maintenance you do it's done turn it back on and all of a sudden the troops have been sent in like oh my okay yeah it's it's a bad commentary
[01:04:03] on how sensational social media can get because people picked up the story and ran with it it's a bad commentary on sloppy messaging out of the trump white house only eight days in which is an issue and people are going to jump on that um i was hoping that what's her name suzy wiles who's this new chief of staff she'd be on this a little bit better and kind of keep a you know keep it under
[01:04:31] control a little bit more um yeah this was really out of left field and again i i i just find it completely ironic that there's people who are cheering this on believing it actually happened or when they believed it actually happened who were cheering on the use of military to do domestic
[01:04:53] things um which is a latin term posse comitas which is basically like you can't use the military to do domestic policies unless it's authorized so like this is something they're trying to do with like the alien and invade or like the alien act or something um that they can use the military for
[01:05:17] domestic purposes or to do law enforcement so i it just sets a bad precedent in my mind i'm sorry you can't be someone who talks about the constitution all the time and then cheer on something like this which is probably is not legal it shouldn't be done by the executive branch to use the military to just do whatever they need to do um our country was not founded on the military just doing whatever it
[01:05:45] needs to do within our borders um so it was also founded on the president's having as much control as they've given over yeah over the years yeah agreed and it's just an expansion of the federal government which should terrify a lot of people it didn't happen i know it didn't happen so point to that but people who are cheering this on because it's their team it kind of weakens your
[01:06:14] own argument about whether or not you really believe in the constitution united states and liberty and federalism and anything like that so that's my point say no to king trump um i don't know how to really kind of descend off of that point for california and on that point and fiend and scene um all right any other thoughts on king trump sending in troops to take over
[01:06:41] california no but i just think because i just feel like god is thinks he's king too and so i feel like there's just like this is a kingdom versus kingdom thing well it didn't happen yeah so well i mean power starts to corrupt people and people grab onto more power yeah it does it does raise a point about so trump said it or at least someone on his true social said it but trump said
[01:07:06] it and therefore he believes this is okay i i don't know like that's that's weird and worrisome does that make sense yeah if that's something he thinks he can do is use the military for all this stuff uh that is a little worrisome um so uh someone who brought up in the comments in business when you're in a position of power you can make moves that are questionable knowing that'll promote
[01:07:35] moves from your opponents that will initiate talks and possibly come to a solution so i i kind of commented on that in the video about karen bass about how trump negotiates and this is like art of the deal thing where he came in knowing the voter id was not going to happen but at least he comes in with the high anchor claim and then goes like okay i'm gonna say voter id but i'm gonna back off voter id
[01:08:01] and then we're gonna do the other things that i want i understand that like you can have audacious and outlandish positions right in the beginning of a negotiation i don't know about throwing the fact that troops showed up in california um well yeah it would have been a completely different post if he had said california has this pump offline and if they don't get it online i'm sending in troops
[01:08:28] that's a different post yeah right then saying something happened that didn't happen right so all right well on that note i don't know where else to go like i said yeah yeah i don't know i think i think we covered tonight's topics yeah i think that was about it um there was an article i wanted to cover about the three ways trump can help with wildfires and it all has to do with like dei
[01:08:55] and like defunding dei and requiring so that's stuff that like he can do like that is within his purview is this article talks about you can um he can go in and like require that they stop pushing dei um and hiring and dei policies and stuff like that or he'll cut federal funding which he can do
[01:09:18] like from fema so um that's basically it it really had a lot to do with that was it i thought it had a lot more substance it was literally just you know threatened that you're gonna get rid of federal funding if you don't get rid of dei so anyway all right on that note uh make sure any other comments
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