Ep. 282: Trump Wins Big and Other Election Results

[00:00:06] If you're a California conservative, a libertarian, a moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just the sane person, this is the political podcast for you. It's the California Underground Podcast.

[00:00:27] What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I am your host, Phil. And as always with me, my trusty co-host, the best, the fastest researcher in the West, Camille. How are you doing, Camille?

[00:00:39] I lost all my rights.

[00:00:41] Well, I was half expecting you to show up in your handmaidens' tail costume, as is now required under the new Trump administration that you have to turn in.

[00:00:51] It's until January.

[00:00:51] You know.

[00:00:53] But you still got time.

[00:00:54] But as far as conflicted, like was I going to wear my weeping red cloak or was I going to shave my head and wear a blue bracelet? But then my husband didn't direct me either way, so I just, I didn't change anything. I'm waiting for him to tell me what to do from now on.

[00:01:07] It's probably smart in the new world we live in now in America that you should just wait until your husband tells you what to do. That way you can just, you know, use that excuse all the time.

[00:01:18] Yeah.

[00:01:19] But anyway, of course, we're talking about the fact that last week was an enormous red wave and this was an actual red wave.

[00:01:26] An actual red wave.

[00:01:28] Not like a hyped up red wave.

[00:01:30] Not like a, we think it's going to be a red wave.

[00:01:33] It was an actual red wave.

[00:01:35] And obviously we're tongue in cheek.

[00:01:37] We're making fun of the people who think that like Trump is taking away their rights immediately because that's how the U.S. government works is once you're elected president, you're immediately the president.

[00:01:47] I think if you think that's what happens, maybe you shouldn't vote.

[00:01:51] Also, I mean, we can dive into it.

[00:01:51] What rights is he taking away?

[00:01:53] Well, supposedly everything.

[00:01:55] Supposedly women won't be able to do anything or drive or make decisions for themselves.

[00:02:00] So yeah, that's the big news.

[00:02:01] Obviously, we're not going to beat around the bush here.

[00:02:04] Huge win last week.

[00:02:05] We're also going to talk about what happened here in California, which was very exciting is that California also got a big splash of a red wave here up and down through the counties.

[00:02:17] A lot of counties that were originally blue have now been flipped to red.

[00:02:21] Trump has done really well in California, increasing his support in California.

[00:02:27] We have local races.

[00:02:29] We have propositions.

[00:02:30] We got a lot to talk about tonight.

[00:02:32] So but before we do, we do have a cringe moment of the week.

[00:02:38] So there was a lot of cringe moments.

[00:02:43] It was sharing.

[00:02:45] There were many.

[00:02:46] Yeah, it was.

[00:02:48] It's tough because I've been watching videos of complications of everybody freaking out on social media about what has happened.

[00:02:54] And but I think this one is the best because it's just so smug that I'm like, yeah, I got to we got to watch this one.

[00:03:03] So.

[00:03:04] All right.

[00:03:05] Oh, and we need to do our little stinger.

[00:03:07] One last time.

[00:03:08] It's on your laptop and it's then therefore up here in this cloud that exists above us.

[00:03:16] Right.

[00:03:17] It's up.

[00:03:18] Yeah, it's up there in that cloud, Kamala.

[00:03:21] She'll now she'll have time on her hands to worry about what's going on up in that cloud.

[00:03:26] So this was a professor of poli sci.

[00:03:33] If she's yeah, she's like an actual professor and she posted this video is actually a professor.

[00:03:39] I feel like she's claiming to be a professor, but that doesn't matter.

[00:03:43] She definitely teaches or as a teacher's aid or she's something at a university.

[00:03:47] She she is something that makes her gives her the false moral support superiority that she thinks she can talk down to people about her predictions.

[00:03:58] So if you've seen this, you get to watch it.

[00:04:01] Enjoy it again with us.

[00:04:01] If not, well, then enjoy this cringe moment of the week.

[00:04:05] Almost 5 p.m.

[00:04:06] Eastern time and I've been tracking everything that's been going on across the country today.

[00:04:11] And my most important encounter was when I went out to get my champagne.

[00:04:20] I was talking to the guy in the store, of course, asking him, did he vote?

[00:04:25] And he said he did early voting and he asked me if I early voted.

[00:04:30] And he asked me, you know, why I was getting the champagne.

[00:04:34] And I said, because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight.

[00:04:38] And he just looked at me with kind of like a smirk on his face.

[00:04:41] And I said, you know, she's she's going to win this.

[00:04:45] Right.

[00:04:45] And he says, oh, well, it's very, very close.

[00:04:47] And I said, no, it's not.

[00:04:49] He says, well, what do you mean?

[00:04:50] I said, no, it's not.

[00:04:51] The women of America are making their voices heard.

[00:04:55] Reproductive rights is what it all comes down to.

[00:04:58] And the women are voting in numbers relative to men that are unbelievable.

[00:05:03] She's won this.

[00:05:04] And I said to him, she's going to take every one of the swing states plus a plus Iowa.

[00:05:09] And he said, oh, but the numbers are so close.

[00:05:11] I said, I'm a political analyst.

[00:05:13] I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.

[00:05:16] She's taking this election.

[00:05:18] I said to him, you realize.

[00:05:20] And he didn't tell me who he voted for.

[00:05:22] But of course I knew.

[00:05:23] And I said, you do realize you wasted your vote.

[00:05:26] Right.

[00:05:29] And I didn't care.

[00:05:31] I walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home.

[00:05:38] Bye bye.

[00:05:39] Bye bye.

[00:05:41] So, as you know, Kamala Harris did not win the election.

[00:05:47] As the numbers stand right now, there were 18 million fewer votes than in 2020.

[00:05:54] And as I have said all along, you have to have a huge, huge turnout.

[00:06:00] And it goes to the Dems.

[00:06:02] And we didn't have it.

[00:06:07] There is one fundamental thing that you cannot account for when you're using data to project, to predict or project the outcome of an election.

[00:06:19] The prediction is you can't factor in the impact of racism or the existence of racism and misogyny.

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:29] So there you go.

[00:06:30] A big prediction from her falls flat.

[00:06:35] This is political analyst and former poli sci professor, Dr. Arlene.

[00:06:39] So she was actually a professor of political science.

[00:06:44] And her projection was that Kamala was going to win every single swing state plus Iowa.

[00:06:50] And she could have not been more wrong.

[00:06:53] Instead, we all know what happened is Trump won every single swing state.

[00:06:57] And he won Iowa.

[00:07:01] I look, I don't want to pat myself on the back.

[00:07:04] Because we can get into our predictions and where we right or where we wrong.

[00:07:10] I had predicted that Trump was going to win by 311 electoral votes.

[00:07:17] Now, I had a couple states off.

[00:07:20] I picked Virginia.

[00:07:22] I didn't pick Michigan.

[00:07:23] But either way, it was one electoral vote.

[00:07:25] Iowa.

[00:07:26] I did pick Iowa.

[00:07:28] I didn't think, I didn't think Iowa was actually in play.

[00:07:31] And for some reason, people thought Iowa was, there was that one seltzer poll that came out and everyone was going, oh, she's, she's up by three in Iowa.

[00:07:40] It's in play.

[00:07:41] And then he won by like 12 or 14 points anyway.

[00:07:44] So it didn't, it wasn't even really that close.

[00:07:48] But yeah, I don't want to pat myself on the back and say like, yeah, I predict, but it just feels like the more I see these people who predicted that Kamala was going to win.

[00:07:58] And I think that's going to win by like a landslide.

[00:08:00] I just wonder like what world are you living in that you thought Kamala Harris was going to win by a landslide and take every single swing state plus Iowa.

[00:08:11] Like I, I just want to know like where you're getting your information from because you've clearly been listening to the wrong information to be that astoundingly wrong.

[00:08:23] Um, what are your thoughts?

[00:08:26] Yes.

[00:08:26] So you all along, you kept saying over 300, he's going to get over 300 electoral votes.

[00:08:32] Um, he's going to take Iowa.

[00:08:36] I felt like Trump would win, but I did not predict any sort of landslide.

[00:08:41] I thought it would be very close.

[00:08:42] I thought election night was going to be like, cause on the lead and now Trump is in the lead.

[00:08:46] And I, you know, like that's how I thought it was going to go.

[00:08:48] And I was clearly very wrong about that, but there's a few things that I think that, okay.

[00:08:56] I don't know how people thought Kamala was going to win because I mean, here we are in California, which is even though it went more red is still she, uh, Harris did win California.

[00:09:09] But yet you and I have witnessed on many occasions, all these Trump rallies and Trump trains and Trump this and Trump that.

[00:09:19] And that's not, that was never happening for Harris.

[00:09:21] There was, there was, I mean, there was rallies, but these like massive, the boat parades and the constant, uh, you know, caravans and everything like that was not happening.

[00:09:33] Also.

[00:09:35] I feel like the left hates Musk so much that a lot of them were staying off of Twitter.

[00:09:39] And I think we were seeing real news.

[00:09:42] They were paying attention to, and this is not, I'm not saying this in a judgmental manner, but.

[00:09:47] If you're paying attention to mainstream media and you were not on X, you were very behind in what was going on.

[00:09:55] Very behind.

[00:09:57] Like.

[00:09:58] There's a lot of information out there.

[00:10:01] That is not on the mainstream media.

[00:10:04] Yeah.

[00:10:05] And so it was like.

[00:10:06] Yeah.

[00:10:06] We were seeing all these favorable Trump things.

[00:10:09] And therefore we were making our predictions based off of like, this is going on here, here, here, all across the nation.

[00:10:17] And it's not happening for Harris, or at least not on the sitting anywhere near the same level as it was for Trump.

[00:10:23] Yeah.

[00:10:24] There's the scientific, which is you can look at the numbers.

[00:10:27] You can look at polls.

[00:10:29] You can look at aggregate polls and all that stuff.

[00:10:31] But there's also this like qualitative aspect of looking at a presidential election and go, this person has it, this go around, you know, it just to your point.

[00:10:44] Like there's, there was more enthusiasm.

[00:10:46] There was more excitement.

[00:10:47] There was more people doing stuff for Trump, just organically, like having these boat parades, like having these demonstrations.

[00:10:56] And a lot of Kamala stuff felt very well now with all the numbers coming out.

[00:11:03] Now we know for sure that a lot of this was fake and that a lot of it was just paid off and like mass produced.

[00:11:11] Um, you can just tell there was like a different energy behind Trump, this go around.

[00:11:17] And it was one of those things where I don't know how to describe it or put your finger on it, but you could just feel like the energy was behind him.

[00:11:24] It was really his election to lose and going into the final two weeks.

[00:11:29] It just felt like he, he had all the momentum.

[00:11:32] Like he was doing these podcasts, which I think he should thank his son, Baron Trump, who got him on these podcasts to begin with.

[00:11:39] I think it was Baron Trump who originally told him like, Hey, you have to go do this Nelk boys podcast.

[00:11:44] If you want to reach like younger men that led to more comedian podcasts and then eventually Joe Rogan.

[00:11:50] And that kind of like created this momentum behind him where people were starting to tune in and get excited about him.

[00:11:57] Um, and you just felt that going into the election.

[00:12:01] And Kamala just felt like she was sputtering out to the finish line.

[00:12:05] It didn't matter whether Beyonce showed up or Oprah showed up for a million dollars.

[00:12:11] Um, allegedly, I'm sorry.

[00:12:13] Her.

[00:12:14] That's absolutely on the FEC financials.

[00:12:16] Well, I'm sorry to be clear.

[00:12:20] It's her production company, not Oprah who got paid directly.

[00:12:24] She was being very coy about that.

[00:12:26] Um, which we all know, like she gets paid from her production company.

[00:12:31] So obviously she got paid a million dollars.

[00:12:33] Um, but there, there was just the more it's interesting and we'll see this more as like the weeks unravel, like how fake the Kamala Harris campaign really was.

[00:12:43] Like there were just, there was nothing organic about what was happening with her campaign.

[00:12:48] Everything was at like AstroTurf, all of her support, all the people coming out to support her, all the endorsements and stuff like that.

[00:12:56] But yeah, coming into the election night, it just felt like there was more energy behind the Trump campaign.

[00:13:04] So, and it was interesting that like he jumped out to the lead, like in every state that he won and he never looked back.

[00:13:12] Like that was it.

[00:13:12] Like he just, he straight up just like every swing state.

[00:13:16] He just went ahead and then he just stayed ahead and it, it didn't, he never looked back.

[00:13:21] Um, Pennsylvania, I was actually doing a, uh, segment on NBC last week, NBC seven.

[00:13:30] We were talking about the local elections and my, like I had my phone in my, my suit jacket pocket.

[00:13:37] And I felt it like buzzing, like crazy with all these text messages.

[00:13:41] And after the segment, I pull it out and I'm like, what the heck's going on?

[00:13:44] And then I see that he had, he had won Pennsylvania.

[00:13:46] And that's when I was like, oh, it's over.

[00:13:47] Like now once he won Pennsylvania, like this is, this is not, there's no path for victory for Kamala Harris at this point.

[00:13:54] Yeah.

[00:13:54] I found a group chat with my sisters and my parents.

[00:13:57] We were just like waiting on Pennsylvania.

[00:14:00] And we're like, whoever tanks Pennsylvania is it.

[00:14:02] It's it.

[00:14:02] And we're like, oh my God, he just took it.

[00:14:05] So like, we're like, it's Trump is our president.

[00:14:08] It all happened so fast.

[00:14:11] It was almost unbelievable.

[00:14:14] You also predicted that though.

[00:14:15] You were like, I think we'll know on election night or within like the middle of the night.

[00:14:20] 24 hours.

[00:14:21] And I was like, oh, it's no, we're, we're going through nonsense again.

[00:14:25] Like, cause I also thought it was going to be close.

[00:14:28] I was like, we're gonna be recounting.

[00:14:29] There's going to be like, there's just no way.

[00:14:32] Yeah.

[00:14:33] I, I, that was a prediction I had.

[00:14:35] I said, we'll know late into the night.

[00:14:37] Like we knew, I think he came out 11.

[00:14:41] Our time like 1145 our time.

[00:14:44] Um, which is like two o'clock in the morning on the East coast.

[00:14:47] Um, funny enough, my parents were still up watching.

[00:14:50] Uh, but yeah, I, it felt almost odd.

[00:14:55] Like I had to pinch myself cause it felt so easy as opposed to 2020.

[00:15:01] Like 2020 was such a nightmare of a mess of like these ballots and where did they come from?

[00:15:06] And all the questions surrounding like, you know, midnight drops and statistically this doesn't make any sense.

[00:15:12] And then all of a sudden to just have a clean election where he got ahead, he won the States.

[00:15:18] They called the States.

[00:15:19] They didn't like drag it out.

[00:15:21] MSNBC was pretty funny though, because like most of the networks had called Pennsylvania.

[00:15:26] And then it wasn't, wasn't until like a half an hour, 40 minutes later, they finally called.

[00:15:29] They were like, not going to refresh.

[00:15:31] They were like, no, we're going to, we're not going to launch this moment for as long as we can.

[00:15:37] Yes.

[00:15:38] It did feel surreal.

[00:15:39] Like I, I don't know about you and I'm certainly not going to speak for you.

[00:15:43] I have never been MAGA.

[00:15:45] Like just going to put it out there.

[00:15:47] I've never been like, I love Trump.

[00:15:50] Admittedly.

[00:15:52] Now this election, you know, I didn't really want to say beforehand who I was voting for.

[00:15:57] And especially on this show, it's like, we don't want to endorse anybody.

[00:16:01] I was struggling with abstaining.

[00:16:03] I mean, it's California.

[00:16:04] It doesn't matter.

[00:16:05] Abstaining voting for Trump.

[00:16:08] I was not going to vote for Harris.

[00:16:10] There was no way I was going to vote for Harris whatsoever.

[00:16:12] Not, not happening.

[00:16:14] I knew that.

[00:16:15] But I just did not.

[00:16:17] We, and I don't think we talked about it two weeks ago.

[00:16:19] I did not see us taking the Senate.

[00:16:23] And so when all of a sudden it was like, it looked like we're taking, we're keeping the

[00:16:27] house and we're taking the Senate.

[00:16:29] And then Trump won.

[00:16:30] I was just like, is this real life right now?

[00:16:33] Is this real?

[00:16:34] Like, and I mean, you and I, and like our group texts with other people, we were all kind of like that.

[00:16:39] I think for like two or three days where we're like, I still, I'm afraid to go to sleep and wake up.

[00:16:44] And it's, it's taken, you know, they took it from us.

[00:16:48] Yeah.

[00:16:49] I think a lot of people had that feeling of like, it was so, it was so overwhelming that night that you're like, and then the news kept coming about like how poorly Kamala did that.

[00:17:03] You're like, this is better than it.

[00:17:05] And then when we could have expected, like she did not gain any ground.

[00:17:09] She did not do better than Joe Biden in any county in America.

[00:17:13] It was just like such a, a solid beating that, you know, it was, it was just undisputed at the end of the day.

[00:17:22] You're just like, this is clearly a mandate Senate looked like it, you know, they were already predicting they were going to win the Senate.

[00:17:28] The house came down to a couple seats out here in California, but they still got the house.

[00:17:34] So it's just, and 300 electoral votes and 5 million more popular votes, which I don't know if we predicted who was going to win the popular vote on our election prediction.

[00:17:44] But I, I, I had a good feeling he would win the popular vote.

[00:17:51] It's just, it, I don't think you can get more of a mandate than this right now.

[00:17:57] Like this is like, you've checked all the boxes for a mandate.

[00:18:00] You've solidly beat your opponent.

[00:18:04] Um, you got the popular vote.

[00:18:06] You picked up all the seats that you needed to get into Congress.

[00:18:10] Um, and you know, the first hundred days are going to be like a flurry of activity already.

[00:18:16] We're seeing all these appointments and we're seeing people who are getting picked.

[00:18:20] You know, some I'm, I'm happy about some.

[00:18:23] I'm not too crazy about some.

[00:18:25] I'm like, eh, there was one guy, um, Steve Benson, whose name was floated out on Bloomberg today.

[00:18:32] Uh, I don't know where his name came from, but he used to work for George Soros.

[00:18:38] So throwing that out there.

[00:18:39] If, if Trump ends up picking him, uh, I am going to be very dismayed about the course of where this administration goes.

[00:18:46] Um, Pete Hegseth, who is a Fox news host is now the secretary of defense.

[00:18:53] I'm not quite sure about that.

[00:18:55] I thought maybe he has military experience.

[00:18:57] He does.

[00:18:59] Um, well, like two tours in Iraq, I think so.

[00:19:03] So, um, but you know, the one thing I'll say that I I've really enjoyed watching.

[00:19:09] That I've noticed with Trump's appointments is there a lot of young appointments like they're all in their forties.

[00:19:16] So it's very interesting that he's picking a lot of younger, uh, appointments probably not like the so-called deep state.

[00:19:24] So far.

[00:19:25] Right.

[00:19:26] Yeah.

[00:19:26] And I know the secretary of state has been floated out there for Marco Rubio is pushed back on Marco Rubio.

[00:19:31] It hasn't been confirmed yet.

[00:19:33] Um, we have the back and uh, Elon, um, who had been announced.

[00:19:39] We haven't found out what Tulsi might be doing in the administration.

[00:19:42] I think she'll probably get a seat, but regardless, um, it was overwhelming and, and he gained in areas that were, I don't think people were expecting.

[00:19:54] And, and it was, it was the most fun not watching Fox news who were about ready to pop champagne and celebrate, but like switching back and forth between CNN and like MSNBC.

[00:20:06] So MSNBC was like in shock.

[00:20:12] They were, they couldn't believe what they were seeing.

[00:20:16] They couldn't believe the numbers that he was putting up, like the demographics.

[00:20:20] So was that professor.

[00:20:22] Clearly.

[00:20:23] Party.

[00:20:24] But I think that.

[00:20:27] And I said this to my wife, I said, this is like, you watch MSNBC.

[00:20:31] And I watched it for a couple of days afterwards.

[00:20:33] Cause I was like, I gotta see like how they're going to talk about this.

[00:20:36] Cause they're, they're just so apocalyptic about this.

[00:20:40] Apocalyptic about this.

[00:20:42] That, um, it's gotta be, it's just going to be fun to watch.

[00:20:48] And you watch what they're saying and you go, this is how people believe the stuff that's out there about Trump.

[00:20:57] Because on day one, I put on MSNBC and it said that the cry on at the bottom said, you know, America braces for authoritarian administration.

[00:21:12] And you look at it and go, what?

[00:21:14] Like an authoritarian administration.

[00:21:18] Like this is what you're pushing out to your viewers in like bold red color.

[00:21:23] Like, oh my gosh, this is so scary.

[00:21:26] And you watch MSNBC and you go, this is how people like that professor end up so deluded as to what's going on in the real world.

[00:21:34] They just don't understand.

[00:21:35] And they get shocked when they're like, what do you mean all these people voted against our party?

[00:21:39] And, um, you know, they, they don't like the idea of transgender rights or what do you mean that transgender rights are not at the top of their ticket or something like that?

[00:21:50] That's most important to them.

[00:21:52] Um, so it is similar.

[00:21:55] I took a screenshot and I, now I don't have it pulled up, but they had something similar.

[00:21:59] And I, and that's why I took the screenshot because it was so like, I can't, you know, America is bracing itself for, for whatever Trump has coming.

[00:22:10] Mm hmm.

[00:22:11] And didn't we all live through his last presidency?

[00:22:16] Mm hmm.

[00:22:17] That's where I'm confused.

[00:22:20] Like genuinely confused.

[00:22:22] Um, he appointed a conservative, you know, Supreme Court justice.

[00:22:27] And then of course, 2021, right.

[00:22:31] Was when they overturned a Roe v. Wade and gave it back to the States.

[00:22:35] But like, that's, that's how it's going to stay.

[00:22:38] He's not.

[00:22:39] He, and, and there was another cringe video that I had sent you where the woman, I don't know what the context was.

[00:22:45] I don't know what her point was, but she was like, thanks to my family.

[00:22:48] I'm spending Thanksgiving alone at home here with just my dog and my 17 year old daughter, who now I have to put her, I have to make her get an IUD.

[00:22:58] Thanks to Trump.

[00:22:59] And I'm thinking.

[00:23:01] I'm confused here.

[00:23:02] So you all freaking out that he was going to ban contraception, but now you're talking about, you're going to take her to get an IUD.

[00:23:10] Because I don't know, you're afraid she's going to get raped or she is sexually active.

[00:23:18] But you were just going to have her have an abortion.

[00:23:20] Should she end up pregnant?

[00:23:22] Like, I'm just, I'm baffled by this.

[00:23:24] And it's so it's like, if you were so afraid of that before, why didn't you have her on some form of birth control?

[00:23:29] If you like you either know she's sexually active or possibly is going to get raped, then why were you not taking like Trump winning didn't take away anything?

[00:23:40] No, it didn't.

[00:23:42] Especially here in California.

[00:23:43] Well, you had sent that video about Katie Porter and Katie Porter, who is likely going to run for governor in two years because for some reason she's popular with her whiteboard.

[00:23:54] I don't get it.

[00:23:55] But she went on a local news with Alex Michelson, right, whatever news network that is.

[00:24:01] And she had to tell this story about how her daughter came home crying and she was afraid that, you know, she gets 12 year old daughter if she if she gets pregnant or she gets raped and she ends up pregnant.

[00:24:13] Like, what's she going to do in Trump's America and she won't be able to get an abortion and you look at you're just like, well, first off, you're in California.

[00:24:21] So there is nothing changed with the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

[00:24:25] Like, you are probably in one of the most progressive or liberal abortion states.

[00:24:32] So there's no concern there.

[00:24:34] Like, you're as long as you're in California, you're fine.

[00:24:36] Um, but it's just this fear mongering of like, yeah, Trump is somehow going to overturn overturning Roe v. Wade and make it the opposite of what Roe v. Wade like it's going to be like, you know, the photo negative of Roe v. Wade.

[00:24:54] We're literally a sanctuary state for abortion.

[00:24:57] Yeah, California has said like, we're not going to listen to anything about her, which not that this is about me, but I was horrified as as the mom of I have a just turned 13 year old and almost 17 year old and a 15 and a half year old daughters.

[00:25:10] And I was absolutely horrified if that conversation is even true, because that is on her.

[00:25:16] That is somehow some way she has led her daughter to believe those things.

[00:25:20] And even if her daughter's being told different at school, she should be the one having these conversations with her daughter.

[00:25:26] And if that's her, her stance is like, if you get pregnant, it's okay.

[00:25:30] We can have an, you know, we'll take you to have an abortion.

[00:25:32] Then she should have been having these conversations with their daughter and like letting her know it's, it's fine.

[00:25:38] This isn't going to happen.

[00:25:39] But also, as I mentioned in my tweet, Katie Porter is soft on crime.

[00:25:44] Like she votes for soft on crime policies and can't and politicians.

[00:25:48] And so I, that's where I will never understand the mentality of if my daughter gets pregnant by a rapist, she needs to have an abortion, but the rapist should walk free.

[00:26:02] I will, I, I will never understand that mindset.

[00:26:06] Yeah.

[00:26:07] It's, um, it's pretty crazy that they're just, I, I, I, I'm, we, I don't want to get down this like rabbit hole about abortion, but like the, the logical leap from like, like, well, if my daughter is sexually active, then the only way to prevent a pregnancy is an abortion.

[00:26:29] It's like, hold on.

[00:26:31] Hold on.

[00:26:31] I feel like there's some steps in between, um, between like what happens and like, you know what I mean?

[00:26:40] Like, why is it the first form of birth control has to be an abortion?

[00:26:46] Right.

[00:26:47] There's preventative measures, many.

[00:26:49] So there's, there's a lot of preventative measures.

[00:26:53] So it's like, it just seems like, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's an odd argument to make.

[00:26:59] And especially here in California where there's that nothing has changed when Roe v. Wade, I, we enshrined it.

[00:27:05] Didn't we enshrine it in our constitution that it's like now abortion is enshrined in the constitution.

[00:27:10] Yes.

[00:27:11] Um, I was just, yeah, like, I don't want to go down this beating of abortion either.

[00:27:15] Like I'm not even here to argue right or wrong with it, but that's just, she just, Katie Porter just wanted to start the conversation of women's rights because liberals really have no other logical thing to run on.

[00:27:29] And so she's obviously going to run for governor or who knows what, but likely governor.

[00:27:34] So she just basically went on the issue is shows and wanted to, you know, cry about women's rights so that she can now run on this issue.

[00:27:42] And people will be like, yes, yes.

[00:27:44] Trump took away our rights.

[00:27:45] Thank you for standing up for us.

[00:27:47] And yeah.

[00:27:49] Um, well, I guess at the end of the day, and that's the funniest thing is people who didn't understand what was important is that at the end of the day,

[00:28:02] can't pay your rent and buy groceries with abortions.

[00:28:05] Sorry.

[00:28:06] That's the bottom line.

[00:28:07] And it's, it's always been the economy.

[00:28:09] It's James Carville's always says the economy, stupid.

[00:28:12] Um, so, and it's, it was interesting to see that people who voted for Trump, like in Arizona also voted for that amendment to their constitution to allow abortion.

[00:28:24] So it is effectively, I don't, it maybe effectively this abortion issue is kind of like, there's no nothing left to get out of it for the left.

[00:28:35] And the Republicans have kind of said, okay, well, our goals, our goals done.

[00:28:39] We did this.

[00:28:40] Uh, we overturned Roe v. Wade, went back to the States.

[00:28:42] Now the States get to decide.

[00:28:43] And that's been J.D. Vance's position.

[00:28:45] That's been Trump's position with, they don't want a national ban.

[00:28:49] Um, so yeah, it's, it's interesting to see if maybe that is, is over.

[00:28:54] Um, Oh, thank you to AM body in the chat.

[00:28:58] I, I think my volume got a little bit better.

[00:29:00] I turned it up a little bit.

[00:29:02] Um, so yeah, Trump one big, and I think that's the main message here, but we do have a lot of other stuff to get to, you know, this is a California political podcast.

[00:29:12] So we do want to talk about Trump for a little bit.

[00:29:14] The big thing with Trump though, is obviously the swing to the right here in California.

[00:29:19] And I think a lot of people were shocked at how much ground he picked up.

[00:29:25] Now it says 12 points.

[00:29:27] It's, it's kind of fluctuated a little bit as more votes come in, but regardless, the numbers are really, really, sorry.

[00:29:35] You know, I'm not like, you're just ignoring me.

[00:29:38] You're just like, I'm just like, keep talking.

[00:29:40] I'm playing games right now.

[00:29:42] You're playing solitaire or something or candy crush.

[00:29:45] Um, yeah, I think the, the fact that there was such a, and this is why we keep saying like, you cannot give up on California.

[00:29:56] People who keep saying California is lost.

[00:29:59] It's gone forever.

[00:30:00] Forget it.

[00:30:01] Like it's deep blue.

[00:30:02] It's never coming back.

[00:30:03] Like this election proved that California there, there are people here and it's prime for a comeback.

[00:30:11] Like there are people, you can change voters minds, good policy ideas and good messaging works in California.

[00:30:18] And that's what we've been saying for a long time is that you just have to actually do it.

[00:30:24] And you have to stop pretending like California doesn't exist and actually go on offense.

[00:30:30] Now I think there's a possibility and I would urge president Trump, not that he's listening to this anyway, but, uh, like show up in California, show up and do a rally in San Francisco.

[00:30:48] Like make people remember that we're still out here and there's lots of people out here or do it in the inland empire somewhere like you did previously.

[00:30:59] But there is a chance that if you can start pushing the needle a little bit, and this is what we talk about with this progress to purple kind of idea.

[00:31:07] It helps change the culture and the voting demographic here in California that can potentially swing so much of California back towards the middle.

[00:31:17] Um, it makes an enormous difference.

[00:31:20] And I hope that people see this and don't go, oh, well, look at that.

[00:31:26] Like California actually is turning a little red or more red than it used to be.

[00:31:32] And don't just forget about us out here, like go on offense, give us a handout here.

[00:31:38] We could use it and great things could happen out here.

[00:31:42] So that was probably the biggest, most exciting thing to me was seeing just the, the ramifications of like his policies and his messaging resonating with people and turning California more red.

[00:31:53] Yes.

[00:31:53] And speaking of showing up a month, five weeks ago, something like that.

[00:31:58] We had Jeff Gonzalez, who's running for assembly 36 district in it's Riverside County slash Imperial County.

[00:32:08] And I had mentioned that on another podcast, like he's everywhere.

[00:32:13] He was constantly showing up and he's leading the polls right now.

[00:32:18] And I, no offense to him, but I think he was like little unknown.

[00:32:22] I don't think he had a ton of volunteers.

[00:32:25] It's a very, Riverside's a big County.

[00:32:28] It Imperial County is very broken up and separated.

[00:32:30] So I think it would be harder for him to like, have these, you know, you have to town hall to town hall where all these people are going to show up.

[00:32:38] Like he would have, he had to really like work it in all the different areas.

[00:32:41] He had to work hard for it, but he is so far leading the polls and, and he showed up.

[00:32:48] I mean, he, and he continually showed up, he kept showing up and it, it worked.

[00:32:53] It's working.

[00:32:54] That race hasn't officially been called yet, but at least not in my last check a couple hours ago.

[00:33:01] Yeah.

[00:33:02] He's he's holding on.

[00:33:05] So the last time I checked, which was today and let me double check right now.

[00:33:09] I, well, nothing new has happened.

[00:33:11] Uh, we're supposed to update it six.

[00:33:13] I don't know about Imperial County, but then I don't think Riverside actually updated.

[00:33:19] Let me see.

[00:33:20] So it looks like he's still up by over 2000 votes, 51 to 49%.

[00:33:26] He's still up by two points.

[00:33:27] Okay.

[00:33:28] So, and this is a seat that like, it was Democrat.

[00:33:33] It's a chance to flip it.

[00:33:35] And there was another one.

[00:33:37] It was red prior to that.

[00:33:38] And then we lost it.

[00:33:39] And now he's.

[00:33:40] Yeah.

[00:33:40] Now he's getting it back.

[00:33:42] Um, what was it?

[00:33:44] Who is the other Leticia Castillo?

[00:33:46] What district was she running in?

[00:33:47] Also Riverside and she at the last, uh, update.

[00:33:52] So they were supposed to update the 14th update is the last one, but that was updated, I think

[00:33:56] yesterday.

[00:33:58] And there's supposed to be a 15th update that was due at six, which it's not, it's not up

[00:34:03] there yet, but maybe tonight, but she was leading.

[00:34:06] So the, this is the ramifications of like, not forgetting about California and like show

[00:34:14] up, just show up, show up and make your appearance known and talk to people, uh, here in San Diego

[00:34:21] County locally.

[00:34:37] And that, and that, if you're, if you are part of the GOP in California or any of these

[00:34:49] counties, you should be looking at that.

[00:34:50] And that, if you're, if you're part of the GOP in California or any of these counties, you

[00:34:51] should be looking at that.

[00:34:52] And going, okay, this is something we can work with and not fumble the ball here.

[00:34:58] Like there is an opportunity here.

[00:35:01] And, and it's basically like Trump has given you this on a silver platter for you to go

[00:35:06] in and go, okay, we can take these policies and this messaging and go forward with it.

[00:35:12] Um, I'm pulling up what I sent you on whatever I need to find it about.

[00:35:19] There was actually a, a flip of like more Christians voting.

[00:35:27] Well, let me see.

[00:35:28] You had sent me something that, uh, for the first time in how many years Trump won the

[00:35:33] Catholic vote.

[00:35:35] Something like that, which was a big deal.

[00:35:37] Yeah.

[00:35:38] I remember the graph you sent me and it showed like the breakdown of religion, how much Trump

[00:35:42] won versus Kamala.

[00:35:44] Um, but yeah, I, I think that might've been Jersey was another one.

[00:35:50] Uh, my old home state of New Jersey, which was Biden won that by 12 points in 2020.

[00:35:57] Uh, Kamala only won it by five points, which I think by the next time Scott Pressler has already

[00:36:05] said he's going to go out there and start registering more Republicans.

[00:36:08] Uh, Jersey could be in play, which take that off the board.

[00:36:12] And, and this is, this is kind of reminiscent of what Howard Dean had done.

[00:36:19] And like Obama picked up back in the early two thousands was this 50 state strategy of

[00:36:25] like, you have to be on offense everywhere.

[00:36:27] And that's how Dems picked up some of these states that were reliably red, like a Colorado.

[00:36:33] Now it's reliably blue is because you went on offense.

[00:36:37] And a lot of these states that Republicans were like, Whoa, wait a second.

[00:36:39] Like now you're going on offense in this state.

[00:36:41] That doesn't make any sense.

[00:36:42] Um, but that's a 50 state strategy of like campaign in New York.

[00:36:47] You know, the there's, I saw a map of what happened in New York city.

[00:36:51] There was a lot of red outside of Manhattan, like South Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, uh, Staten

[00:37:00] Island, like outside of Manhattan, there was a lot of red surrounding Manhattan.

[00:37:05] So this is like, it just goes to show you like, just cause you think like it's dark blue doesn't

[00:37:11] mean you can't change things.

[00:37:13] And California, boy, do we ever need like any glimmer of hope that like things can turn

[00:37:19] around here.

[00:37:20] I hope people run with it.

[00:37:22] Feeling like we were drowning.

[00:37:24] Yeah.

[00:37:25] It felt like, and you know, we, we've been doing this podcast for several years.

[00:37:29] I've been doing it since 2018 years.

[00:37:30] A lot of people were like, why even bother?

[00:37:32] Like California is lost.

[00:37:33] Forget it.

[00:37:34] Um, but elections like this make you feel like maybe something's changing out here in California.

[00:37:41] Maybe we can take advantage of it.

[00:37:43] Um, and I'm, of course I'm no political, you know, professional analyst, whatever.

[00:37:50] Not like Dr. Arlene.

[00:37:52] Yeah.

[00:37:52] No, I'll be Dr. Arlene.

[00:37:53] I can't.

[00:37:54] I am definitely not her, but to go into like, there's so many, you know, Harris lost because

[00:38:01] Taylor Swift endorsed her, that her, her campaign.

[00:38:04] She lost because like, there's so many things like that.

[00:38:07] I think people just got absolutely tired of the extremism.

[00:38:11] Honestly, I just, I think we had to see, I don't believe that we should go extreme one

[00:38:18] way or the other.

[00:38:19] And, and we went so far extreme left.

[00:38:21] And I think, I generally think people like, like, what are we doing?

[00:38:25] This is not, it's not for me.

[00:38:27] This is, this is actually affecting me.

[00:38:29] This is actually hurting me.

[00:38:30] Um, they were like, we need change.

[00:38:34] Yeah.

[00:38:35] I think that's a perfect segue into here in California.

[00:38:39] Um, and I said this on NBC prop 36 passing by the margin.

[00:38:44] It did might've been the most consequential, uh, ballot issue this election for California.

[00:38:53] Yeah.

[00:38:54] And I think that was a huge win, huge win for us.

[00:38:58] I wasn't expecting it to win by that much.

[00:39:00] I thought it was going to win by like 20 or 30.

[00:39:02] And I was like, okay, 20 or 30.

[00:39:04] That's pretty good.

[00:39:05] But let me, I want to double check.

[00:39:07] What was it?

[00:39:08] Um, prop 36 right now it's 69 to 31.

[00:39:14] That is unbelievable to win by that much.

[00:39:19] And like it, that was the most consequential thing on the ballot because I think it said

[00:39:25] to the people in power, like Gavin Newsom and the Democrats in Sacramento, we are tired

[00:39:31] of this soft on crime, progressive criminal justice system.

[00:39:36] And we are wholly rebuking it and telling you to get your act together.

[00:39:41] And it's not just this election.

[00:39:44] I think obviously Gavin Newsom, his ego was hurt.

[00:39:48] He said something at a press conference about, I saw the numbers and I couldn't believe what

[00:39:52] state I was in.

[00:39:54] And it's like, well, the state's horrible.

[00:39:57] It's in it's in the state is in bad condition crime wise.

[00:40:00] Um, and he took it personally.

[00:40:03] I think he took her personally cause he supported prop 47 Kamala Harris.

[00:40:07] Wouldn't tell anybody what she voted on prop 36.

[00:40:09] I think by her not telling anybody, she probably probably told us all what she probably voted.

[00:40:15] Um, but I think it shows that we are not going to take it anymore.

[00:40:21] And in terms of this Uber left progressive soft on crime, George Gascon was soundly defeated.

[00:40:29] It wasn't like even close with it.

[00:40:32] I mean, if you had said a former Republican is going to win district attorney of Los Angeles

[00:40:37] County, it's just like what in Pamela price was recalled up in Alameda County, London breed

[00:40:46] lost London breed lost.

[00:40:49] Uh, these are a lot of things that people are just across the board and up and down the

[00:40:54] state are saying no more to like far left progressivism.

[00:40:59] Even in San Francisco, farther progressivism is not as vogue as it used to be.

[00:41:04] It's not such a winning thing.

[00:41:05] And I know Scott Wiener's crying on Twitter about it for the past week or so.

[00:41:10] Um, but I think prop 36,

[00:41:12] he was reelected of course.

[00:41:15] Well, no shocker there.

[00:41:17] Um, but I think prop 36 sends a huge message to those in power in Sacramento.

[00:41:24] And it says, we're not listening to the progressive is progressivism anymore.

[00:41:29] Um, it also says to anybody who wants to run for these seats, assembly state Senate stuff

[00:41:34] like that.

[00:41:35] They're going to look at what, how you are on crime.

[00:41:37] If you're soft on crime, they're going to be like, Nope, sorry, you're out.

[00:41:41] And it's going to force politicians to get tough on crime.

[00:41:44] It's going to force a lot of politicians to moderate their positions.

[00:41:47] I think this is honestly, that's the biggest win for California is outside of the obviously

[00:41:54] flipping how many more counties to red.

[00:41:56] I think this winning by an absolute landslide, decisive victory.

[00:42:01] It is probably the biggest win for Californians in this election cycle.

[00:42:06] What are your thoughts?

[00:42:08] I have an unpopular opinion.

[00:42:10] Okay.

[00:42:11] Um, I, I know everyone's talking about how Gavin Newsom is going to basically be the

[00:42:14] leader of the democratic party now.

[00:42:16] And, um, you know, Harris is California, but she hugely lost the election and Gavin Newsom

[00:42:24] was so against prop 36 and tried to, he fought to get it off the ballot.

[00:42:30] He kept saying, we're going to come up with our own solution.

[00:42:31] This isn't a solution.

[00:42:33] This isn't good.

[00:42:34] Then he kind of just bailed and like, you know, whatever happened to him for a few months.

[00:42:38] But, um, I think that the passing of prop 36 actually shows how little influence he and

[00:42:46] Harris have any more within the state.

[00:42:49] I think.

[00:42:50] And I know that he, you know, they tried to recall him again and that hasn't gone anywhere.

[00:42:57] But, um, well, we didn't like flip the majority of assembly seats this time around.

[00:43:04] Um, there's hope for next time as long as we keep up this momentum.

[00:43:07] But I think it, I don't think that California is going to get a Republican governor in 2026.

[00:43:15] I just, I don't believe that even if we have great candidates running, I don't think California

[00:43:19] will go that far in two years, but there is hope that as long as we keep up this momentum,

[00:43:24] that we will be able to, uh, you know, stop the super majority in the assembly.

[00:43:32] And anyway, that's just my opinion on their influence.

[00:43:35] I think it's fading.

[00:43:37] I would agree.

[00:43:38] I think, um, which for him is probably devastating considering he's licking his chops to run in

[00:43:46] 2028.

[00:43:48] Um, and it kind of, again, it goes to the ego.

[00:43:52] He thinks he's fantastic and wonderful and everything he does is just the most amazing thing ever.

[00:43:57] Um, but it does to your point about, will there be, you know, where are we going to flip it

[00:44:04] to a Republican governor in the next couple?

[00:44:06] Probably not.

[00:44:07] Probably not.

[00:44:08] It's going to be a lot closer.

[00:44:10] I mean, look at Brian Dolly.

[00:44:11] Brian Dolly did the best of any Republican governor since Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[00:44:14] So it shows like he picked up ground where other Republicans had it.

[00:44:19] Now, if you get like a, a sheriff Bianco or someone like that, who's very popular, who's

[00:44:24] got momentum and stuff like that, I always think like you have to be bold here in California

[00:44:32] and you can't kind of, you can't be wishy washy about your policy, but you got to go on

[00:44:38] there and be bold.

[00:44:40] And if you're going to run for a big office like governor or Senator, which was my biggest

[00:44:46] critique about Steve Garvey is like technically what a loser he was, was because he won the

[00:44:51] primary and then he just gave up on campaigning.

[00:44:53] But okay.

[00:44:54] So maybe you don't have a chance to win.

[00:44:56] You do have a big platform though.

[00:44:58] You're running for Senate of the United States of America.

[00:45:01] Just like if you're going to run for governor of California, you better use that platform

[00:45:06] to push policies and reach voters.

[00:45:09] And you may not win this election, but if you pick up five points or more this election,

[00:45:17] then the next person in the next election cycle picks up more.

[00:45:22] Maybe you help those down ballots.

[00:45:24] Maybe you help break the super majority.

[00:45:26] So, you know, it's really about like, it's just a matter of effort and it, it's tough to

[00:45:33] ask people to dedicate so much of their life and hard work and sacrifice and put themselves

[00:45:40] through that stuff to essentially accept that they're, they're probably going to lose.

[00:45:46] But it's for the, like the better, the greater good down the line, but it has to be done.

[00:45:51] Like it has to be done where it's like somebody has to kind of take the ball and move it down

[00:45:56] the field a little bit more.

[00:45:57] And then the next person takes the ball, moves it down the field a little bit more.

[00:46:00] And before you know it, like, you know, 10 years from now you go, whoa, all of a sudden

[00:46:05] it's a balanced legislature.

[00:46:07] Things are starting to calm down.

[00:46:09] Who knows?

[00:46:10] Like, and then you look back and go, remember when California was a deep blue state and now it's

[00:46:14] purple state, like now it's a battleground state.

[00:46:18] Who knows?

[00:46:18] But you gotta, you gotta put in the effort.

[00:46:20] You gotta be a little bit aggressive about it.

[00:46:22] So I agree.

[00:46:22] Um, speaking of other propositions just to give everyone a rundown.

[00:46:27] So prop 36, as we said, is probably the most consequential other ones that failed were rent

[00:46:33] control, which I think we had predicted rent control, uh, would fail.

[00:46:38] So, so far regarding our predictions, we were all right.

[00:46:42] I think that Trump was going to win.

[00:46:45] I was more right than everybody else.

[00:46:46] I just want to point that out.

[00:46:48] Um, prop 36, prop 36.

[00:46:52] We were right about that.

[00:46:53] It would win or would pass prop 33.

[00:46:56] We had predicted that it would not pass and it did not pass prop six, which I can't, I

[00:47:04] think we said it would not pass.

[00:47:06] And as people came out and analyzed it, I was reading an article about this, what we

[00:47:12] brought up, which is that it kind of was confusing prop six and the idea of like voting on involuntary

[00:47:18] servitude or, or slavery in the state kind of confused people to be like, why are we voting

[00:47:23] on this?

[00:47:24] I don't get this.

[00:47:24] So that failed.

[00:47:26] Um, prop five had, had also lost, which is lowering the voter threshold for approving

[00:47:33] bonds.

[00:47:33] I don't remember what we predicted for that.

[00:47:35] So, but in other yeses constitutional right to marriage did pass.

[00:47:40] I think we expect that would pass, um, raises minimum wage did not pass.

[00:47:47] Uh, 35, which I, you and I, we, we discussed it and we still kind of were, I still don't

[00:47:55] understand it.

[00:47:56] I voted no passed by, by a large margin.

[00:47:59] So which one that was something to do with pharmacy payments.

[00:48:05] Well, maybe I don't remember.

[00:48:07] Uh, prop 34 restricts spending on prescription revenues that, that barely passed 50.8% to

[00:48:15] 49.2%.

[00:48:18] So that barely passed.

[00:48:20] Um, what were the other ones?

[00:48:22] I was the provides permanent funding for medical.

[00:48:26] That's the one that like, Oh, that was the medical tax is going to go specifically for

[00:48:31] medical.

[00:48:31] It won't go into the general fund.

[00:48:32] And that did not pass.

[00:48:34] That did pass.

[00:48:35] Oh, it did pass.

[00:48:36] Okay.

[00:48:37] It passed by a large margin.

[00:48:38] I have somewhat breaking news.

[00:48:41] Okay.

[00:48:42] Um, district congressional district 47 here in orange County, which was Katie Porter's

[00:48:47] she's currently that's her seat and Dave men versus Scott ball.

[00:48:53] That has been an extremely close race, but decision desk headquarters has just come out

[00:48:58] and predicting that Dave men is the winner of that seat.

[00:49:03] Hmm.

[00:49:03] He's a Democrat.

[00:49:04] Hmm.

[00:49:05] Yeah, that was, that's a, that's a winnable seat lost, um, to a Democrat, especially, uh,

[00:49:11] Dave men, uh, as a completely unrelated side note, uh, don't drink and drive.

[00:49:17] Don't leave.

[00:49:17] Yeah.

[00:49:18] I wanted to, I didn't want to say that in case he was the one, but I thought he was the

[00:49:21] one that was drinking and driving.

[00:49:23] And one of them, he was the one.

[00:49:25] Yeah.

[00:49:26] He, but he wasn't the one who said, well, what did he say?

[00:49:30] Who was the one who blaming like their seatbelt or something?

[00:49:34] That's what it was.

[00:49:35] Or they were asleep.

[00:49:35] I forget.

[00:49:37] Um, someone sneezed.

[00:49:39] Someone sneezed.

[00:49:39] That's what it was.

[00:49:40] I forget who it was when they ran into a tree.

[00:49:43] That's why they just completely plowed through five cars.

[00:49:47] I think that was something.

[00:49:49] I don't, I don't want to misname anyone, but I think that was a Wendy Carrillo.

[00:49:53] It sounds, it does sound familiar.

[00:49:54] I think it's a Wendy Carrillo.

[00:49:55] I apologize if that's not.

[00:49:57] Wendy Carrillo is going to contact the podcast and I'll be like, it was not me.

[00:50:01] I apologize if that was not, it was not me who did the drinking and driving and blamed

[00:50:07] it on sneezing.

[00:50:08] Um, but anyway, well, Dave men just goes to show you.

[00:50:12] Yeah.

[00:50:13] And that's weird in orange County that they just can't get their, their stuff together.

[00:50:18] Um, young Kim, I know she won pretty early on.

[00:50:22] I mean, she's my, my representative.

[00:50:25] She's your representative.

[00:50:26] Okay.

[00:50:26] Um, I think we got swept down here in San Diego.

[00:50:30] Yeah.

[00:50:30] Let's talk about that.

[00:50:31] Cause we had a few predictions and I think we were right.

[00:50:34] Yeah.

[00:50:34] Like every single one of them.

[00:50:37] Yes, we did predict that Todd Gloria would win.

[00:50:40] He did win by a resounding margin.

[00:50:42] Um, it was head, but last I checked, Werner has not conceded because he's waiting for updates,

[00:50:48] but the numbers aren't.

[00:50:50] I don't think you're not going to make up nine points.

[00:50:52] Uh, so that was a pretty decisive race.

[00:50:55] We had predicted Gloria would win.

[00:50:57] Unfortunately, Carl DeMaio did win over Andrew Hayes.

[00:51:02] Um, we, that one, it was hard for us to predict that he would win.

[00:51:07] That was the most hurtful thing that's happened.

[00:51:08] And he won by a lot too, which is, he won by a lot, which is sad to see that that many

[00:51:16] people ended up voting for him.

[00:51:17] I hope that Andrew Hayes will stay in politics and fight because I think Andrew Hayes is such

[00:51:22] an intelligent man.

[00:51:23] Yeah.

[00:51:24] I think he will.

[00:51:26] I don't think he's going to go anywhere.

[00:51:27] Uh, Tara Lawson Reamer won for county supervisor, um, against Faulkner.

[00:51:35] I will stand by this, that I think Richard Bailey was the correct choice for that district.

[00:51:40] I think he would have done a little bit better, but you know that the local party had different

[00:51:44] plans and, um, here we are.

[00:51:47] We have Todd Gloria back as mayor and Tara Lawson Reamer has been, will likely be the next chair

[00:51:53] of the San Diego County sport of supervisors.

[00:51:55] So not good things.

[00:51:57] We did not see a red wave down here in San Diego.

[00:52:00] We, I don't think we saw anything conservative wise down here in San Diego.

[00:52:04] Uh, measure G failed, which was the countywide sales tax.

[00:52:08] I know that.

[00:52:09] That's good.

[00:52:11] Um, yeah, that was, that is pretty good.

[00:52:13] Um, I haven't checked on measure E, which is the city.

[00:52:16] It was losing barely.

[00:52:19] Um, with clean sweep Democrats of all the congressional seats, Sarah Jacobs won by like,

[00:52:25] a ton over Bill Wells, which is, is disappointing.

[00:52:28] Uh, Matt Gunderson lost in a close race with, uh, Josh live in.

[00:52:33] Now we have, they called that one because he's partial orange County and he's way ahead

[00:52:37] in orange County.

[00:52:38] I thought he had declared victory that night.

[00:52:42] Like, which I was like, Oh, okay.

[00:52:44] So we're just going to declare victory.

[00:52:46] Even though he caught up, what district was that?

[00:52:48] 49.

[00:52:49] Right.

[00:52:50] I can't remember.

[00:52:51] I can.

[00:52:52] Yeah.

[00:52:53] They, they called that race.

[00:52:54] Mike, Mike Levin, not Josh Levin.

[00:52:57] Oh, it's not really 52 to 48.

[00:52:59] So it wasn't really that close.

[00:53:02] Um, in orange County and Matt Gunderson was, he had 55.68% versus 44 point, whatever percent.

[00:53:12] Yeah.

[00:53:13] So he was, yeah, he was leading in orange County, but his district crossed county lines.

[00:53:19] Well, still a lot of work to do.

[00:53:21] You know, uh, still was down, but now she's up in the latest update.

[00:53:26] That's where it's hanging on 45.

[00:53:28] She was hanging on by a thread there for a little bit.

[00:53:31] Um, but a lot of work to do, which is crazy because the California GOP, if you know anything

[00:53:36] about the inside baseball, the California GOP, they rarely ever care about anything but

[00:53:41] congressional seats.

[00:53:42] So the fact that this is literally their number one thing that they raise money for and

[00:53:46] help with is congressional seats.

[00:53:49] And they just did not do a good job.

[00:53:51] It's almost like they could spend their time and energy on something more important, like

[00:53:55] the state legislature for example.

[00:53:58] But what do I know?

[00:53:59] I'm not the head of the California GOP.

[00:54:01] We previously had Denise Aguilar on the podcast and she was running in San Joaquin County

[00:54:08] for assembly.

[00:54:10] I don't believe she won.

[00:54:13] No, she did not win.

[00:54:15] Um, it's tough keeping between the assembly districts and the congressional districts.

[00:54:21] So yeah, I think, I think we, did we clean sweep all of our predictions?

[00:54:26] I think we clean sweep.

[00:54:27] I think we predicted everything.

[00:54:29] Maybe our numbers were a little off here and there, but I think we basically predicted

[00:54:34] everything.

[00:54:34] I think it's just with the props we were kind of maybe the most, like we didn't really,

[00:54:39] I mean, we're right about 36, but I think with the propositions we were kind of iffy

[00:54:43] on.

[00:54:44] Cause you just never know with California how those people are.

[00:54:47] Yeah.

[00:54:47] People show up.

[00:54:48] Yeah.

[00:54:48] You know, I mean, and like the last, remember prop one with that prop one this year, right?

[00:54:56] It was with the, um, the homeless bond.

[00:55:00] And it wasn't that one.

[00:55:02] So they didn't call that one for a while because it was so close and it, and it kept changing.

[00:55:07] It was like, yes, it was ahead.

[00:55:09] No, it was ahead.

[00:55:10] And so like propositions.

[00:55:13] Propositions are weird.

[00:55:14] Never known.

[00:55:15] Um, I still believe if prop one was on this ballot for the November election, I think it

[00:55:20] would have failed by a lot more or by a lot.

[00:55:23] It would have, it did not fail, but it would have failed by a lot.

[00:55:26] I think it would have failed by 10 points or more.

[00:55:28] Um, but that's probably why they rushed it to get it on the primary ballot is cause they

[00:55:33] knew they had to squeak it through one way or another.

[00:55:36] All right.

[00:55:37] So, uh, there's two more things I want to get to before we end this, but there's a lot we

[00:55:42] had to cover.

[00:55:42] So, uh, where does poor Kamala Harris go now that her political career is basically ending

[00:55:50] in less than two months?

[00:55:54] Well, the new rumor, and I'm not confirming this rumor is people have said she should run

[00:56:02] for governor of California.

[00:56:03] There's been articles written.

[00:56:05] This was a mercury news article, which was written back in May saying that she should run

[00:56:12] for governor.

[00:56:13] Um, she would probably be the most prominent name.

[00:56:16] She probably have the biggest cache of out of anyone running.

[00:56:19] I mean, I think you put Kamala Harris up against Rob Bonta, Katie Porter.

[00:56:25] Um, we're some other people.

[00:56:26] Let's not forget that, that she's 20 million in debt in her campaign right now.

[00:56:31] Yeah.

[00:56:32] They'll figure that out.

[00:56:33] We were talking about that.

[00:56:34] I was like, I don't understand how that like your $20 million in debt and you just walk

[00:56:38] away from it and you're like that.

[00:56:39] Okay.

[00:56:40] I'm good.

[00:56:41] I ran for president.

[00:56:42] I'm $20 million in debt.

[00:56:44] Well, they can still like, she, she could still solicit donations to cover the debt.

[00:56:49] Yeah.

[00:56:50] So, which is what she's doing now to solicit for recounting purposes.

[00:56:54] Um, I was, I had, I had heard that was a possibility.

[00:56:59] I saw that that was actually true.

[00:57:01] They pulled up her webpage that quietly she is asking for donations to, uh, support recounts

[00:57:08] in certain battlegrounds.

[00:57:09] I would absolutely understand that.

[00:57:10] I would, if it were a close election, I'd be like, yeah, I get that.

[00:57:15] But this is not.

[00:57:17] Yeah.

[00:57:17] You're not.

[00:57:18] This was the land that you correctly predicted.

[00:57:22] You're not.

[00:57:23] It's not like it came down to one state and you're like, okay, well let's recount this

[00:57:28] one state.

[00:57:28] Cause it was so close.

[00:57:29] It was like, it was not close.

[00:57:31] You could knock one of these swing states off and it'd be like, okay, he's still going

[00:57:36] to be president.

[00:57:37] Congratulations.

[00:57:38] Um, but yeah, so that's, that's the rumor right now, whether she runs or not, I, I don't

[00:57:45] know if she'd be super pop.

[00:57:46] She might be super popular here.

[00:57:48] Um, she didn't have, she did open a few years ago, a campaign to run for 2026 governor

[00:57:55] in California.

[00:57:55] And I actually remember I posted it on my Instagram stories and then you reposted it.

[00:58:04] But then by the time you reposted it and I, I actually just checked my stories the other

[00:58:08] day, cause I was trying to find it.

[00:58:10] I ended up deleting it because I realized she had terminated the account.

[00:58:14] And then I told you that like, and I can not that anyone's questioning, but I can literally

[00:58:18] find it and post the screenshot of that conversation that we had where I said, I'm pretty sure she

[00:58:22] terminated it.

[00:58:23] And you were like, oh, okay.

[00:58:25] But she can reopen that campaign at any point.

[00:58:28] So there's already an existing campaign for her to run for governor of California in 2026.

[00:58:34] Um, the other names include Lieutenant Governor Elena Kounalakis.

[00:58:41] Right.

[00:58:42] She filed a while ago, former state Senate president, Tony Atkins.

[00:58:46] Um, San Diego, right?

[00:58:49] That she is San Diego.

[00:58:50] Um, and when she announced she wants to make everyone know that she would be the first, uh,

[00:58:56] possibly gay governor, which if you saw this last election, I don't know if you want to

[00:59:01] run on that anymore just because I don't think people really care that much about that sort

[00:59:05] of thing.

[00:59:06] Um, former state controller, Betty Yee, who I don't think that's super popular.

[00:59:12] Um, also she's been like embroidered in scandal for like not handling her job.

[00:59:18] Right.

[00:59:18] But Tony Thurman, who we knew school superintendent, uh, attorney general Rob Bonta, former attorney

[00:59:24] general and current federal health and human services secretary.

[00:59:28] Was he trying to sue Trump right for the next couple of years?

[00:59:31] Yep.

[00:59:32] Tackling the important issues.

[00:59:33] Uh, that's why he's probably doing it.

[00:59:35] Cause he wants to increase his profile for the governor's race.

[00:59:38] Uh, Xavier Bacera and Sheriff Chad Bianco.

[00:59:43] He was former what Xavier.

[00:59:46] He was something.

[00:59:48] He was our former attorney general.

[00:59:50] Okay.

[00:59:51] Yeah.

[00:59:52] And then I didn't know this, but when she ran for attorney general in 2010, before the jungle

[00:59:59] primary jungle system, uh, she would nearly lost to Republican Steve Cooley.

[01:00:05] Then the Los Angeles district attorney, he almost upset her despite the Democrats, huge

[01:00:10] voter registration advance.

[01:00:11] She won by just 6,000 votes out of 9.6 million cast.

[01:00:14] Wow.

[01:00:15] Okay.

[01:00:16] So even.

[01:00:18] See, in the elections, they really do matter.

[01:00:20] They do make a difference.

[01:00:22] Um, then she went to Senate seat and she got, still got only 39% of the primary vote

[01:00:28] before easing through the runoff with 61%, which is still an underwhelming performance.

[01:00:33] So she's not even that entirely popular here in California, even though she's won those seats.

[01:00:39] She did not have rousing support.

[01:00:42] So far the majority of people that have filed are Democrat.

[01:00:45] Yeah.

[01:00:46] I mean, it's just like a huge Democratic field and you know, Sheriff Bianco is, um, obviously

[01:00:52] the front runner for the Republican.

[01:00:55] Okay.

[01:00:55] So I wanted to get to this.

[01:00:56] Is this officially filed?

[01:00:58] He hasn't officially filed, but I think it's basically in the bag that he is going to.

[01:01:03] All right.

[01:01:05] Next part of, and we're going to end on this.

[01:01:09] Um, who's ready to make way too early presidential predictions for 2028.

[01:01:17] Sure.

[01:01:17] I'll, I'll throw some, do they have, wait, are you wanting to talk about what's like, who's

[01:01:26] going to run or?

[01:01:28] Right.

[01:01:29] So I would, I, okay.

[01:01:32] So I would assume, and this is why it's way too early.

[01:01:37] I think if everything goes well with the Trump administration, J.D. Vance would likely be the

[01:01:43] number one contender.

[01:01:44] It doesn't mean he's not going to go through a primary.

[01:01:47] Um, but I would say J.D. Vance, he's the young guy.

[01:01:52] He's the up and comer.

[01:01:53] Um, if he does well, Trump is happy with him and then supports him.

[01:01:58] I could totally see him being the Republican nominee in 2028.

[01:02:02] I agree.

[01:02:04] On the other side, I think, uh, Gavin Newsom will probably be able to squeak through the

[01:02:12] Democratic primary because of the fact that one, I've said this before, he is a, a really

[01:02:18] good politician.

[01:02:20] He's very smart.

[01:02:21] Do not underestimate him.

[01:02:23] He knows how to raise a ton of money.

[01:02:26] That is very clear.

[01:02:28] And that is important when you're running a presidential election is raising a ton of

[01:02:31] money.

[01:02:32] Um, and I think as sexist as it sounds, I think the Democrats coalesce behind a dude again in

[01:02:41] 2028, whether it's Newsom or Josh Shapiro, but I think they, they go back to the white dude

[01:02:48] and see if that works and try that out in 2028.

[01:02:54] So do you think his running would be a female?

[01:02:57] Oh, absolutely.

[01:02:58] I think is his female.

[01:03:00] He would absolutely have a, I don't think it would be Harris.

[01:03:04] It would probably be, it could be governor Whitmer.

[01:03:07] That's what, that would be my one.

[01:03:09] Number one.

[01:03:10] That's what I thought.

[01:03:11] I think he would need a governor Whitmer.

[01:03:13] If he wants to flip a Michigan back.

[01:03:16] Now, what we have on the screen is my old prediction.

[01:03:18] So don't look at that as like, I should probably, I should reset.

[01:03:24] I'm going to reset the map.

[01:03:25] So this is actually how it went down.

[01:03:28] Um, so we're going to reset it to what it actually says.

[01:03:32] Uh, so this is the map as of 2024.

[01:03:36] So we're, we're, we're going to play assuming that it's Newsome versus JD Vance.

[01:03:41] Right.

[01:03:41] We'll just go ahead and say.

[01:03:43] You didn't name him.

[01:03:45] JD Vance is running mate and I'm just going to throw, I think it'll be Tulsi.

[01:03:49] I would agree with you.

[01:03:50] I was going to say it's going to be Tulsi Gabbard as well.

[01:03:52] So we didn't even talk about this beforehand.

[01:03:55] I had no idea you're going to do this and yet we completely agree with who we think is running.

[01:03:59] That's well, that's why it's more fun this way is because, uh, we, we didn't plan this.

[01:04:05] This was not scripted.

[01:04:06] All right.

[01:04:07] So this is the 2024 map electoral map.

[01:04:10] Uh, we can go ahead.

[01:04:12] I think we can say Washington, Oregon, California will obviously go to the Democrats.

[01:04:16] Uh, Nevada, Colorado.

[01:04:18] I mean, all these States in between, let's, let me just like take all this out.

[01:04:22] Can I do that?

[01:04:24] Okay.

[01:04:25] So I'm taking all these out.

[01:04:27] Uh, these are all the red States.

[01:04:29] Obviously we'll continue to be red.

[01:04:31] Let's say Wisconsin.

[01:04:33] That's a toss up state, Illinois.

[01:04:36] I think, I think Illinois will stay the same.

[01:04:39] Uh, Pennsylvania.

[01:04:40] I mean, you can say Ohio.

[01:04:43] Um, are we ready to say New Jersey is a toss up state by 2020?

[01:04:48] I don't know.

[01:04:49] I don't know.

[01:04:51] I don't, I mean, I, you, you would know more than me.

[01:04:55] I'm going to put Virginia in there as well.

[01:04:57] We'll say North Carolina.

[01:04:58] Oh, you're going with Virginia again, huh?

[01:05:00] I think Virginia was very close.

[01:05:02] I think they made a Florida.

[01:05:03] I'm not even going to put in like the toss up category anymore.

[01:05:06] I think that Florida is deep bread at this point.

[01:05:09] He won by like 16 points.

[01:05:10] It's not even close.

[01:05:12] Um, so yeah, that's the map as of right now.

[01:05:15] I think we, with the current, uh, let's say it's tiny.

[01:05:21] Did you take Pennsylvania out or yes, Pennsylvania?

[01:05:25] I took out.

[01:05:27] Um, so Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota,

[01:05:35] the blue wall through in Jersey as a toss up.

[01:05:38] It was only five points.

[01:05:39] You can pick it up.

[01:05:40] Um, California, Oregon, Washington, obviously Colorado, New Mexico, and then the swing states

[01:05:46] out here.

[01:05:47] Oh, I don't know why Utah is red.

[01:05:48] Um, Nevada and Arizona.

[01:05:50] So assuming that like, if you're going off of the current map and you flip all the states

[01:05:56] back to toss up Republican J.D. Vance would already have a 202 to 189 advantage.

[01:06:04] So let's work westward to eastward.

[01:06:09] Wait, hold on.

[01:06:09] Scroll the map up or down or whatever.

[01:06:12] Cause I actually can't see the count.

[01:06:14] Okay.

[01:06:14] There you go.

[01:06:15] The count wasn't on the screen.

[01:06:16] There you go.

[01:06:17] So assume this is J.D. Vance and this would be Gavin Newsom.

[01:06:22] Um, okay.

[01:06:23] Moving west to east.

[01:06:27] Where do you think?

[01:06:28] Who do you think wins Nevada?

[01:06:29] J.D. Vance or Gavin Newsom?

[01:06:31] I saw some tweets today that Nevada's actually, um, annoyed with some policies like what's going

[01:06:38] on with gas here because on the border it's affecting gas prices in, in Nevada.

[01:06:45] And so it's, I mean, that's only the border, but maybe people are going to start to get fed

[01:06:50] up enough.

[01:06:52] Yeah.

[01:06:53] But I don't know.

[01:06:53] I think Nevada might still go blue.

[01:06:55] You think it will go blue?

[01:06:57] What?

[01:06:58] Even though it went red this time.

[01:07:00] Yeah.

[01:07:01] It's hard to, I get.

[01:07:02] Would you like to say it leans a certain way?

[01:07:04] I think, okay.

[01:07:05] That, you know, that is hard to say because of course we have no idea how this is going

[01:07:09] to go the next four years.

[01:07:11] True.

[01:07:12] But that's why these are way too early.

[01:07:13] That's why we're playing this game.

[01:07:14] Way too early presidential predictions.

[01:07:17] Like, okay.

[01:07:18] I confidently feel like Arizona is going to stay red.

[01:07:21] Okay.

[01:07:22] I don't, I don't confidently have an answer for Nevada.

[01:07:25] What do you think?

[01:07:26] Uh, I think Nevada has been trending more red.

[01:07:31] Um, they have a Republican governor.

[01:07:34] I think they just instituted state, uh, voter ID laws.

[01:07:39] Um, I think you, for a second.

[01:07:42] So you're talking about Nevada.

[01:07:44] Um, I just want to say sometimes they're just not that into you.

[01:07:47] Yeah.

[01:07:48] Like I don't think it's controversial that they voted for Trump, but didn't vote for

[01:07:51] her.

[01:07:51] I just, I don't see that as any weird fraud or controversy.

[01:07:56] I just think she's somewhat popular, but not that anyway.

[01:08:01] Sorry.

[01:08:01] Go back to your Nevada.

[01:08:02] Um, I think Nevada stays red if you know, the Trump administration does well for them.

[01:08:10] Uh, like the economy, uh, state voter ID, I think just passed.

[01:08:14] I think to your point, if Gavin Newsom is running, that might be a detriment because I think there's

[01:08:21] a lot of people in Nevada who do not like the fact that there has been an influx of Californians

[01:08:26] and that policy into Nevada.

[01:08:28] Okay.

[01:08:29] So I think it might have the opposite kind of like with Arizona.

[01:08:31] I think it might have the opposite effect of like, I don't want Gavin Newsom as president

[01:08:35] because I've seen what his policies leaking across our border has done for us.

[01:08:41] Good point.

[01:08:42] So I think he, I think he, he can hold on to Nevada.

[01:08:48] All right.

[01:08:49] Minnesota.

[01:08:50] Blue.

[01:08:51] I would agree with you.

[01:08:52] I think Minnesota stays blue.

[01:08:53] I don't think it's, it's going to change.

[01:08:56] I get a little closer.

[01:08:58] Wisconsin is tough because it was very, very close and it's sort of.

[01:09:03] Just leave that as a toss up.

[01:09:06] Could leave that as a toss up.

[01:09:08] Uh, Michigan, which again, if it's a governor Whitmer is his VP, does she carry the state?

[01:09:15] So if we assume that it's governor Whitmer and she carries the state, we can say Michigan will go to Newsom.

[01:09:23] Um, Ohio.

[01:09:26] I Vance isn't losing Ohio.

[01:09:27] He's from Ohio.

[01:09:28] Uh, it's been consistently read to pass couple elections.

[01:09:32] Great.

[01:09:33] Uh, let's do some of these other ones.

[01:09:35] Virginia.

[01:09:37] Very close this time around.

[01:09:39] Um, but I think Newsom will be able to get the, the suburban suburbanites out up in Fairfax County.

[01:09:46] So I think that goes blue.

[01:09:47] Okay.

[01:09:49] North Carolina.

[01:09:50] What do you think?

[01:09:52] Blue.

[01:09:53] You think North Carolina flips to blue?

[01:09:55] Okay.

[01:09:55] I, you can put whatever you want.

[01:09:58] I just, a lot of these, the coastal, you know, the cities, the counties, the states, they tend to stay or go blue.

[01:10:08] I don't know.

[01:10:10] But then again, Newsom, he's popular and he's also a disaster.

[01:10:15] I would say a state like North Carolina.

[01:10:20] And while he's a good politician, he's very charismatic.

[01:10:24] I think the don't California, my insert state is going to hurt.

[01:10:30] Yeah.

[01:10:30] Their governor is, is Democrat.

[01:10:32] Correct.

[01:10:33] Yeah.

[01:10:34] I think, well, I would think that's probably due to the fact that Mark Robinson was such a horrible candidate.

[01:10:40] Like it came out, he was on Ashley Madison and like doing weird sexual stuff.

[01:10:45] Like, I think that just destroyed him.

[01:10:47] Um, I think if they get a better governor in four years, like a gubernatorial, they could win North Carolina.

[01:10:53] I mean, there's a Republican governor in Virginia, so it is possible.

[01:10:56] I think North Carolina stays red.

[01:10:59] It's been red the past couple of election cycles.

[01:11:01] It was called pretty early on election night.

[01:11:04] It wasn't really close.

[01:11:06] Georgia, Georgia could be interesting because of Fulton County.

[01:11:11] A lot of, you know, there's a lot of Hollywood, you know, has moved out to Georgia.

[01:11:17] A lot of filming industry has moved out to Georgia.

[01:11:20] I think I would probably keep it red.

[01:11:22] You keep it red.

[01:11:23] Okay.

[01:11:23] I think I would.

[01:11:25] That is if JD Vance could.

[01:11:26] What would you say?

[01:11:28] I think it, it, if he can hold on to the Trump coalition and keep the numbers that Trump has had, which is he won 25% of male black voters.

[01:11:37] I think he can win Georgia because that's what you need to, to win Georgia.

[01:11:43] Um, all right.

[01:11:44] New Jersey within five points.

[01:11:47] That one's tough.

[01:11:47] I'm gonna let you call that 100%.

[01:11:50] I don't know.

[01:11:50] That's your state.

[01:11:51] You have people there, you know?

[01:11:54] Yeah.

[01:11:55] I w I want to be hopeful and say it's going to turn red, but I might be more realistic and say that it stays blue.

[01:12:03] Okay.

[01:12:03] So it's pretty close right now.

[01:12:04] Two 41 to two 68.

[01:12:06] This is a nail biter.

[01:12:08] It comes down to these two Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

[01:12:13] I'm calling Pennsylvania is red.

[01:12:15] I think it'll stay red.

[01:12:17] I agree with you.

[01:12:18] I think Scott Pressley did a good job increasing voter registration out there.

[01:12:23] It's right next to Ohio.

[01:12:26] You know, J.D. Vance is that Midwest type of guy.

[01:12:30] Um, I think it stays red.

[01:12:32] So technically at this point, Vance is one.

[01:12:36] We don't care about Wisconsin doesn't matter at this point.

[01:12:39] So.

[01:12:39] It doesn't even matter.

[01:12:40] We've just, we've just decided right here, right now, 20, 28, Wisconsin.

[01:12:44] Yeah.

[01:12:45] We're just going to call it.

[01:12:46] Um, and then, uh, I mean, Wisconsin is going to be close.

[01:12:50] It's could, it's really a, it literally is a toss up by a percentage point or not.

[01:12:55] You can say it's red two 97.

[01:12:58] So Newsome does a little bit better than Harris would do, but I, uh, they honestly, they probably

[01:13:05] should have run them.

[01:13:05] They probably should have honestly, they were running Harris was probably why they lost.

[01:13:10] Yeah.

[01:13:12] Um, he could flip a Michigan if he does governor Whitmer.

[01:13:17] So yeah.

[01:13:19] And that's it.

[01:13:21] Maybe even this year.

[01:13:22] Sorry.

[01:13:23] Um, if he had, if they had propped him up and kept Kamal as VP probably would have, I

[01:13:30] don't know.

[01:13:30] I don't know that they would have won, but I think they would have fared way better.

[01:13:33] Probably.

[01:13:34] I think he, she, he's a little bit more charismatic and, and, um, honestly likable than Kamala Harris,

[01:13:41] but that's probably why they wanted to save someone like him for 2028.

[01:13:45] So he could actually have a real campaign where he starts in 2027 and does the primary.

[01:13:51] It doesn't feel like they just were kind of like, we're going to run a campaign, but we

[01:13:55] know Trump is going to win.

[01:13:57] I don't know.

[01:13:58] Yeah.

[01:13:59] That's it felt like that to me.

[01:14:00] Well, I mean, not to pat myself on the back again, but that was my prediction was that

[01:14:05] she was the sacrificial lamb that they just kind of said.

[01:14:08] You definitely.

[01:14:10] We need to, we need to run somebody.

[01:14:13] We need to get somebody excited about what's going on, on these down ballots.

[01:14:17] Kamala at least does that.

[01:14:19] She'll probably get slaughtered in the electoral college.

[01:14:22] Who cares?

[01:14:24] But it didn't, it backfired anyway because Republicans took the Senate and the house.

[01:14:29] They may have taken the house.

[01:14:31] They may have taken the house.

[01:14:33] Yeah.

[01:14:33] I mean, I don't think that I don't, I haven't seen it officially called.

[01:14:37] Have you seen it?

[01:14:39] Yeah.

[01:14:39] I've seen it called in a couple of places.

[01:14:41] They said that Republicans have won the house.

[01:14:43] I saw it yesterday.

[01:14:44] They had officially called it.

[01:14:45] Well, I've seen, I know like real clear politics definitely had us, but which this is silly

[01:14:52] as much as I, at the beginning of this podcast went off about mainstream media.

[01:14:56] I haven't seen it on mainstream media.

[01:14:58] And so I'm kind of waiting for that.

[01:15:00] Like, okay, mainstream media called it.

[01:15:02] Ignore me.

[01:15:03] Take don't nobody pay attention to the fact that I just said that I don't want to give them

[01:15:06] any credit.

[01:15:06] All right.

[01:15:07] So that's been our election results show a little bit longer than normal, but we did

[01:15:11] have a lot to get to.

[01:15:13] Um, all right.

[01:15:15] So that's it on to 20, 28 or on to 2026 already.

[01:15:21] We'll be looking at 2026 for the next big election here in California and across the country.

[01:15:26] Um, yeah.

[01:15:27] Take a break during the holidays, but come January 1st, we're all back to work.

[01:15:31] It's all back to work.

[01:15:32] Who's going to announce who's going to run stuff starts moving along until 2026.

[01:15:39] The just never stops.

[01:15:40] But anyway, any final thoughts before we log off for the night?

[01:15:45] No, we should.

[01:15:46] We've gone a little long.

[01:15:47] I appreciate everyone who stuck with us.

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[01:16:28] fraudulent politicians, we're, we're pretty much there.

[01:16:33] So yeah, we're pretty ahead of the curve on, on predicting those two.

[01:16:37] So, um, I'm still waiting for Alex Jones prediction that masks are coming back to airplanes.

[01:16:43] That was like two years ago.

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