Ep. 280: Democrats Get Desperate (And Cringey)

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a California conservative, a libertarian, a moderate Democrat, believe in common sense, or just a sane person, this is the political podcast for you. It's the California Underground Podcast.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the California Underground Podcast. I keep trying different emphasis on different syllables to see how that sounds and just try to go back to the syllables, syllables on the wrong, you know, the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable. You never heard that before?

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'm sorry.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I keep trying that to see which one sounds the best and I haven't made my mind up yet. But anyway, I'm your host, Phil. And as always with me, my trusty co host the best and fastest researcher in the West and we have breaking news that let me just put this out there. I don't call her the best and fastest researcher in the West for nothing. It's not just a nickname that I came up with.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it's because she is the best and fastest researcher in the West. Today, Camille sends me something that one of our favorite politicians last night. It was you last night. So last night. So my days roll together. They're just like 24 hour periods.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that are one of our favorite politicians called the Maya is being sued for harassment. Um, as I understand it, it's harassment related to plants like he didn't like where plants were going.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. Okay. So I found the lawsuit sent it to you last night, not even 24 hours ago. I think it was like eight o'clock last night. Um, Amy Riker, who I think her Instagram handle is at Amy for San Diego.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm hmm. She, she, she lives down there. She, uh, she went to the courthouse today to check it out and she got the deets. So you definitely have to go. She made a real about this and she's going to be exposing the whole thing. So I don't want to, uh, take that from her, but he's being sued. This is the big thing, which she already put out. He's being sued by neighbors who live behind him.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, they, I believe live in two separate HOAs and Carl and his husband don't like the plants that these neighbors are planting or something. And I, and from what I know, these neighbors are like on a hill behind him. And, um, hence the two separate HOAs. So Carl has been harassing them and their gardeners over planting these plants. And there's like saying you can't, they're like hanging over the fence or something and being like, you can't allegedly, this is all in the lawsuits.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you can't plant these plants and all this stuff. And, um, the thing is, the big, big deal about this is that this month, this is a brand new lawsuit this month, October, 2024.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Carl DeMaio was served by a sheriff's deputy, this lawsuit at his home in district seven, 75, right? That's where he's running in snow. He's running in 75, but he lives in district assembly district 76, where he claims he doesn't live anymore.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And then he moved because he rented that room from an Airbnb in district 75, where he's running, but he was served at his home that he claims he doesn't live in this month. And this is a recent, this is recent events. The neighbors like filed.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: This is, this isn't something that happened last year. And they just filed. This is in recent days, weeks, months.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And he, there's an incriminating. And again, Amy has put this out there email against himself where it flat out comes from Carl. And he's like, we're trying to be friendly neighbors, neighbors in this district. That is not the district you're running in, which is totally illegal.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And so believe me, I'm going to be making a bunch of phone calls and complaints tomorrow. Cause he literally by his own words, this is where I live. You're my neighbor.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: You're doing X, Y, and Z, but at the address that he claims, you know, longer lives in because he's running in a district. He doesn't live in, which is illegal. And so you are so corrupt Carl DeMaio.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So you're so corrupt. Anyway, carry on.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I wanted to start the show off with that because for people who listen to the podcast and wonder why I call you the best and fastest researcher in the West.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: This is one reason, because if you don't think Camille's looking, Camille's looking and she can find stuff.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So to all those out there, be careful. Camille's looking and she will get to the bottom of it.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so that was breaking news as of today. Uh, we'll see what happens. Um, in other news, I will be returning to the NBC seven San Diego election live stream.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's their live stream. Um, I will be on basically the whole night. I will be on from eight to 10 30.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, talking about the election results as they're coming in. So if you are in San Diego and you, I mean, I, it's a live stream. You can tune in anywhere.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but that's where I'll be election night. There won't be any podcast that night, obviously because of that. And because of what's going on in the election, we're not doing like an election live stream.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. We want to make sure all your last minute voters vote. So we don't want you here.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Don't, don't, if you're tuning in at six o'clock on election night and you haven't voted, then I don't know what to tell you.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, wait, hold on. I want to go back to it because you said it's NBC.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: NBC seven. Um, it's their live stream. If, if I remember from the last time it's their live stream.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think it's like their live news. I can get more clarification, but I remember it was just

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: like, I think it's not cable. It's, it's internet. Yeah. So if you go to like NBC seven, San Diego.com

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever, they'll have the stream. Um, and we'll post it. Obviously we'll post all the information about NBC and, and all that stuff.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, tune, tune in there. Um, I'll be joined by James Canning. I was in on his podcast, uh, flack talk a couple months back. He'll be returning as well.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, I'm excited. It'll be fun to be in a newsroom on election night to see how this all kind of unfolds.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, on, on the topic of election news as well. Next week will be our final episode before the election. We're going to be having an election prediction episode. Uh, our good buddy, Zach is going to be joining us. Um, love hearing his commentary and opinions. We're going to kind of go through and look at our crystal ball and we're going to make our predictions. Like that's literally what we're going to do. We're going to be like, Hey, we believe prop. So-and-so is going to pass.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We believe, you know, president Trump's going to win by a bajillion votes, like stuff like that. So that's basically what next week's episode is. We're going to make predictions one week before we'll see how close we are. Um, and how right we are. And, um, whoever's the most right. I don't, I don't know. You get a gift card to McDonald's or something. So anyway,

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh,

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I've made trouble be there. I'm just kidding.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, maybe Trump will be handing out fries in a, yeah. Can we just talk about that before we get, get started with this? The fact that like, I think you sent me the, the thing that like the things that like, people were like, Oh my God, it was, it was staged. And like the left was making a big deal about how it was so staged. And Oh my gosh. And like, he didn't actually show up in work. It's like, well, yeah, of course not. They've, there's been three assassination attempts on this guy. Do you think they're just going to let anybody drive through?

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That random McDonald's and be like, yeah, let's get you point blank in front of the former president. Who's running for president.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Like super Trump hater drives through the drive through there's Trump. They like call their buddy. Who's like Unabomber 2.0 or something. And all of a sudden he shows up like that. But of course, that's not how it happened, but it happens on the left to you guys. Like I had my liberal friends posting this all like, Oh my God, see, see Trump, whatever. And I'm like, yeah,

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Doug, what's his face. Didn't just show up to somebody's house to knock on doors for Kamala. And they come out wearing Kamala, like campaign shirts. Like that did not just randomly happen. You guys, I'm sorry. It's all, it's all staged. It's all staged. It's all staged for videos.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all staged. Of course. Yeah. Like people are not like showing up, but like when she showed up at that, uh, gas station in Pennsylvania, like.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: With the Doritos. Yeah. Oh, Doritos. She was all about, Oh Matt Doritos.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like try to try to be like, I'm one of you. I'm just, I'm one of you. I'm just buying Doritos for my road trip.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I love my Doritos. Um, but anyway, speaking of cringy moments, that's sort of the point of tonight's episode.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We've been doing these like weekly little snippets. Um, but it seems recently as the election has drawn near and as probably bad news has happened to several, uh, Democrat candidates,

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: they've gotten a little desperate, um, and they've gotten desperate for attention.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, just a, you know, I think we've talked about this on the show before.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a candidate out there, social media does not determine whether you win or lose an election.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Just gonna throw that out there. You know, there's a lot of people who think, you know, if you have hundreds of thousands of followers, you'll win an election.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not so true. Um,

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to make other side calls. It's about hundreds of thousands of followers, but then I just decided this is the only comment I'm going to make on it.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Let's go on.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, people think that social media, I think candidates take social media a little too seriously, um, that it's going to turn the tide somehow for them.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, when in reality it still comes down to like hard work and getting out there and door knocking and texting and getting people out to vote.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so tonight there's a bunch of videos we're going to do specifically focusing on George Gascon, who is running to try and be reelected as Los Angeles district attorney.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll cut right to the chase. He's losing very badly, which is why he's making these really cringy and desperate videos.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he's not the only one. There are Democrats who are making a ton of cringy, desperate videos.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it seems to be a new trend of them making these desperate kind of cringy videos.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like they're trying.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny how Democrats originally were like, Oh, they're the party of cool.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, Oh, they get it, man. And like, yeah, Barack Obama figured out how to use Facebook back in the day.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And it helped him win in 2008.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: He was also younger.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a lot younger. Yeah. I mean, now he's, you know, how many years later is it now?

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost 20 years later.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I'll two term presidency later. He's much older and much more gray, but it's like, it used to be Democrats for the, the, the cool.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We get it, man. Like we get social media, like you boomer Republicans. You don't get it.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we know how to make internet memes. And like you, you're just a bunch of old grandpas, like pounding on big Facebook buttons or whatever.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, now Democrats, I think are coming off as like, they're the boomers in the sense of like, they're trying to jump on trends that like it, when you do it, it's cringe.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like when you do this trend, it's, it's not cool. It's, it's definitely lame.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, they like Obama, like you mentioned. So he was at the height of the height, but like social media was, was new and he was younger and they definitely did learn to take advantage of it.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And so they were, they were kind of setting the trends in that sense. And certainly they're still setting some of the trends, but, but these politicians have aged and have stayed on social media.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And now we just see them doing these things. And you're like, like we're growing up too. And we're learning to like, I mean, you know, I was just texting you and our friend on another group text.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I was admitting there was things that I was being, it wasn't on social media, but being very petty about that, that I was kind of ashamed to admit, but I'm pretty real with you.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So like, it's like, they put it on social media is kind of the difference. Like I share it with two friends. Like I'm like, here's where my heart is at today.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I know this is so bad and so immature, but they're like 10, 15 years older than me. And they're like putting it on social media and you're like, Oh, this is so bad.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, that's a good point. Like they are all, you know, they're not these in George Gascon by no means is like a young, exciting candidate of life.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_07]: That's true. He's trying to be, as we'll see.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to be. I mean, at this point he's got two weeks to go and he's losing badly. Um, so why not, why not make weird TikTok cringy videos and see if that somehow sways the election in Los Angeles?

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I think more people probably viewed this because they're making fun of them. Like of how.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. This particular video, like I can see how somebody could make a really good point and you're like, Oh, that's a really good point. I'm going to share this with my friends, but this is not that. And it, it's a, I'm going to share this with people because this is so cringe that I need other people to cringe with me.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. There's a guy running in Canada and I don't know how elections work in Canada. I imagine everything's like all ballots are delivered on like moose back or something.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm sure. I don't, I have no idea how stuff works in Canada. I mean, whatever. Do you like engrave your vote with like maple syrup? Who knows? Whatever. Um, but like, there's this guy running against Justin Trudeau and he's a conservative and he, he's very, he's very well-spoken. He's great at debate. Like he's very good at like confronting the media.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's basically like Canada's JD Vance. Like he's just very good at like handling the media and speaking public speaking.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, clips of him go viral because you look and you go, wow, this guy's making like a great point. Like that's a great politician. I want to vote for that guy.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That might be an example. Like good content for a politician is I'm proving my point. And I'm also showing you like, this is what I stand for. And it, it goes viral and people all in the comments are like, this guy's amazing. We love him. We need him for Canada. Um, but dancing.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not so much. I think one thing, another thing is that the fact that we've had a new cringe moment to play on this show every single week is not a good sign for Democrats that we've been able to find a cringe moment every single week.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. But that just seems.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Conservatives do this cringe.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've said.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure there's conservative.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. Okay. So, and I don't know if it's just conservatives, but because I follow so many, I see this.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of people who are in the comments where something will happen.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they, they share it on social media and they're like, boom, Trump just won the election.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's, and there's been so many of these moments in the last few months where they're like, boom, election just won.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And then the news is reporting that like Harris and Trump are in a dead heat right now, or it's like Trump takes the lead in one poll.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Harris takes the lead in another poll or same poll that felt like week to week, day to day, whatever.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And it, I, I think whoever wins and we'll get into that, you know, our predictions next week, but I think whoever wins, I don't think this is going to be a landslide win in the presidential election.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's going to be very close.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Could be wrong.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'll get into that next week, obviously, but I just, I don't think that these little, these moments were like, boom, election lost, boom, election one.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Please stop doing that.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Please.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I, the worst offender.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There was one I was, I thought I was going to screen share, like screenshot and share it to you.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, it was Benny Johnson, Benny Johnson.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just say this.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he's listening because whatever.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's too busy stealing other people's content and reposting it as his own.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Sounds familiar.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds familiar.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What you mean?

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You mean that's accepted in conservative influencer circles is stealing other people's content and reposting as your own.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We're really going off on a tangent.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like a real relaxed mishmash episode.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I just got to get off my chest.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I posted this before.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Benny Johnson drives me freaking nuts with his like over the top hyperbolic statements.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: There was one where he's like, oh, it's over in all caps and exclamation points.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, I don't think it's over because you found this one clip that like conservatives are going to latch on to.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, go ahead.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was just going to say like, just because like you, we like conservatives might find that clip interesting.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean it's making the rounds on the other side.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's like, you may think it's over because of it, but it's not over.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And like every day.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know why I follow him anymore.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He drives me nuts so much.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe because I look at like what he does.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that's not what you should do.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But like every morning he starts his show and it's like, it's so over the top hyperbolic.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, you were going to say something.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't follow him.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's probably one of the reasons.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And, but, um, sometimes I see stuff that gets reposted and, you know, and has that, oh my God, election over with 600 exclamation points, all red and alarms and, you know, all the things.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And I will actually like what was posted.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Like whatever the content was, I'm like, oh, I like that.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was a good point, but I won't reshare it because one, it's him and two, his whole, like just madness over it.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I'm like, that's actually embarrassing.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't want to be a part of that.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to share it.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And you are absolutely right that that same clip I'll see, like my friends on the left post it and they have a totally different take on it.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're very like, their take isn't like, oh my gosh, I never considered this point.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very like, oh my gosh, this is so bad because X, Y, and Z.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And so, yeah, if you're only listening to echo chambers and I'm not saying go and follow Benny Johnson or don't listen to them, but if you're only listening to that, then certainly you're going to think that like Trump is winning this by a landslide and conservatives are just out there making the most excellent points ever.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But social media is, it's not.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There is some stuff that he, he shares and even like I've seen in the comments where people are like, uh, what, what, where in the video did that happen?

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That you said this was going to happen.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And like people are like, and we need context.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And again, both sides do this, but I just like to point out that we're not here to just always bash Democrats.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we're about to, like we're going to dunk on all of them.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So there to start off to kind of ease into the cringe.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to watch this old video of Kamala Harris from, I think, a couple of years back.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you get the intro first?

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we get the intro to it first?

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is it?

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You let you used to play an intro to our cringe moment.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't played.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like stinger for the whole like night right now is like, you had a busy couple of weeks.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why I'm here.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's pull this up.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to ease into it and then we're going to show some more cringy videos, uh, as we go.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll talk about, uh, George Gascon and everything that's happening with him in that race.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, this is from California globe.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, California globe for organizing and compiling all these.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You guys.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready to start?

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Go.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So I may not always be fast to take my parents advice, but what is the best advice your parents

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: have given you that perhaps you can share with us today?

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, one of the most important pieces of advice that I can offer you guys, and I want

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_06]: you to really remember this, never let anybody tell you who you are.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_06]: You tell them who you are.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Never let anybody suggest to you that you are what they think you should be.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You tell them who you are and who you know you are and what you intend to be.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Got that?

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I got more advice.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So what is the most surprising thing you found about being vice president?

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stop right there because, um, if you, if you're watching the video, you

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: can see the title of that.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is from the telegraph.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It says Kamala Harris mocked for NASA video with paid child actors.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You can clearly without that title, you could clearly tell they are paid child actors.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that line she delivered was so unnatural and nothing against his look.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, she's a child actor.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it just sounds so unnatural the way she said that.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Haters are going to say this was staged.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It was.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It was absolutely staged.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was in theater in high school and one of the things that we did at some point was

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_05]: performed kids books for kids elementary schools.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And we were like taught to really put the emphasis on the last word of that sentence.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I forget what that sentence was, but like whatever it was, what other advice do you have for us?

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Like that kind of thing that is 100% something that they teach you.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And not that I'm like some, like this, like right here.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The surprising thing you found about being vice president.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Vice president.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like that, that girl, all she's thinking right now is I need to nail this so that I can get the

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Kellogg's commercial next week.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Or my parents are going to be very upset if I flub this up because we were paid to be here.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_05]: They're my managers and they're counting on me to make it.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They've, they've put a second mortgage on the house for my acting lessons.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So I could make it.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oof.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep going.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_06]: There have been a lot of things because I've never been vice president before.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So there are, there are many new things, but I'll tell you one of the things that I'm

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_06]: really excited about.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And one of the reasons for our visit and the time we're going to spend time together today

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_06]: is the space council.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_06]: My mom was a scientist.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So she would take us.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Grew up in a middle-class household.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Like on the weekends and after school, because she had to work long hours.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And I just love the idea of exploring the unknown.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And then there's other things that we just haven't figured out or discovered yet to think

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_06]: about.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_06]: How much space.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Exploring the unknown.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Can we send her to space?

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: She makes it.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: She, she's wants to do that.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: She wants to explore the unknown.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: She can come back in a few years and tell us everything she learned.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: She'd sit down with these kids who are hopefully further advanced in their acting careers.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully some of them made it.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if, if any of you were high school theater kids, you know that like one out of

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe all of you went on to theater school and then that one person didn't make it in theater.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's tough to make it in theater.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It's out there that we still have to learn.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I love that.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I'm very excited about the space council.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to learn so much.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_06]: As we increasingly, I think are curious and interested in the potential for the discoveries and

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: the work we can do in space.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's one of the things I'm most excited about.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_06]: But the other, you guys are going to see, you're going to literally see the craters on

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_06]: the moon with your own eyes.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_06]: With your own eyes.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm telling you, it is going to be unbelievable.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's one of the things we can do here too, which makes it so exciting.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: As opposed to not seeing the craters with your own naked eyes.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: When you look up at the moon.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_05]: As opposed to somebody else's eyes.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting is looking up at the moon and seeing it with your own eyes.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I took an excellent photo of a full moon several years ago because I did photography and I had

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: an amazing lens, an amazing lens.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And I, I'm very proud of that photo actually because you get to see pretty detail of the craters

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_05]: with your own eyes.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: With your own eyes.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Not somebody else's eyes.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's Kamala Harris from a couple of years ago.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And I imagine it's probably just a couple of years ago because the kids aren't wearing masks.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So I imagine that we're probably past COVID at that point, or at least.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Past being super cautious, cautious at COVID.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And that, that's just us in like easing into the cringe.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a lot of cringe on this episode.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So just, just buckle up and just enjoy the ride with us about the cringe.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: This is another video that you've probably seen from governor Whitmer.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Who I'm sure will probably be running for president in 2028.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Along with Gavin Newsom.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll all be trying to run.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Prediction.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a, yeah, it's a soft election prediction.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Paul's not going to make it.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_05]: She's not going to.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So this was, I, I don't understand the context of this one.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But, so she's staying here in her Harris waltz hat, her camo hat.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: While she's.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, doesn't this feel like it's about to be an SNL skit, but it's not.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's looked like it could have been an SNL skit.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the look on her face is like, this is, it kind of looked like an office bit.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it turned into something so much weirder that I don't understand what the point of this was.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are Doritos, right?

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Doritos.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Doritos.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't get it.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to say, I don't get it.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there, is there a trend happening?

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that like a thing that like people are feeding each other?

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Doritos?

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't get it.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't get it.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I've heard different things than I thought.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I never really like went down this struggle of that one.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But I thought they were mocking Catholic.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you call it?

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Catholic.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're taking communion.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_05]: For those of you who don't know.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Catholicism just now.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I literally, that word escaped me.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But that's what I had heard was that they were kind of making a mockery of that.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know if that's true.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so like the tweet that this is from.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's be clear what's happening in this video.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Governor Whitmer of Michigan is pretending to give communion to a leftist podcaster on

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: her knees using a Dorito as the Eucharist while wearing a Harris Walsh hat.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if that's what she said.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It comes off that way.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: For those of you who don't know about Catholics, that is like an old school way of taking

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: communion.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: There's people who get down like on their knees and the priest will actually put the

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: host on their tongue.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not really done too much anymore.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, it's more of an old school thing.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if that's what she was going for.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't understand it.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know that.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the fact that they would know that.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I doubt.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They know that.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's, I'm not really sure what the point of it is.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it doesn't do any, does it move the needle that she's feeding this girl, this influencer

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Doritos?

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know if anybody's in the chat and can explain what the heck is going on.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I I'd be more than happy to understand.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Research this.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get to the bottom.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I was, I was on to other topics.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: After the Carl DeMaio breaking news, you're like, you're like, I need to look at something

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: simpler.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I actually, you know, so on Tuesdays, I like to stay close to home because I'm like, okay,

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I have the podcast tonight at six.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I'd have to do my makeup, but also what if there's last minute research?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I'll kind of like, I'm like, I don't go out.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But then this morning I told my husband, I'm like, all right, I don't have to really do

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: any research for this.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We're just kind of doing a mashup of a few new things.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I brought all the articles so we can go out today.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So we went to lunch.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so see, I did take a break.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, all right, Carl DeMaio.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going down.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Check that off.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to take a little break and head in and out.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Fully prepared for the podcast.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Not to be outdone.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Stephen Colbert also joined in on this.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I need to know what this trend is.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be a trend or something.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Allen from the bear.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Good first season.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Not great.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Second season.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't really excited about the second season.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That has nothing to do with politics.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Now to the man of the hour, George Gascon.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's sort of us easing into Democrats being cringy.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And now we have the man himself, George Gascon, who has decided I'm just going to go for it and make really weird TikTok videos.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Because why not at this point?

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me pull this one up.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: This is tough to pull these videos up.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They're tough to watch.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They are tough to watch.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're also tough to pull up because they're on TikTok.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the first one.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And it says, I'm working late cause.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm a DA George Gascon 2024.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I imagine the comments are.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm white so I can say this.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But how white is this?

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty bad.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was off key and everything.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm praying for you.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There's actually a lot of people supporting him.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They must have just had all their stuff pushed to the top.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, that was his first one.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's now move on to the next one.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So he has now taken to Tiki Talk to see if that can change.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He had so much support.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_05]: He tried to do it again.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He thought, hey, I got all these comments.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not?

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's nothing more than I want from my district attorney, it's someone who knows that I do a Tiki Talk dance.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is his next one that he did.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Also completely off.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's play it.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to play that again because there's a whole bunch of stuff at the end.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I pay attention to things most people ignore.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Women's reproductive rights, environmental justice, police accountability, hate crimes, labor wage theft, and death penalty.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I see, you know, rising crime rates are definitely not something he's paying attention to on that list.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And it got a whopping 1,700 likes.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So not, you know, for someone of his stature, not like the biggest.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, this is important to note, he has a whopping 2,000 followers on TikTok.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So 1,700 ratio is actually decent, but that didn't get him.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Like nobody was like, oh, I'm going to follow this guy now because he just did the worst TikTok dance ever in TikTok history.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But also, whoever, whatever staffer is like encouraging him to do this needs to be fired immediately.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know who decided like, let's, this looks good.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he doesn't look cool at all.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look like he's with it.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it just, it comes off so absolutely cringe.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the article goes on to say he only has, well, as of the time it had, he has 2,000 followers.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Nathan Hawkman.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawkman.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We had to practice his name.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawkman, who was running against him.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He has 9,000 followers.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Neither of these men are like social media personalities anyway.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you would have to hire a social media like marketer.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Like a real one, a professional one, not just the person that serves you coffee.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Not the person who's like.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_05]: If social media was what you wanted to focus on, which is what just a few minutes ago, it's just not reality.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, and there's certainly something to social media.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think candidates should have social media profiles, but it's, it's just not reality.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't translate to, to votes.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it doesn't end up.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not translating a lot of votes when you only have 2,000 followers.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just put it that way in a County of Los Angeles.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think you're tipping the scales that much.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, the reason why George Gascon is getting absolutely so desperate to make these really, really cringy Tik TOK videos is because he's losing by a lot.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He used to be the DA of district attorney.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a article Politico just came out yesterday.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it says George Gascon has spent four years as LA's preeminent lightning rod drawing endless heat over his progressive overhaul of the county's district attorney office.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But his reelection bid has felt less like an ideological brawl than a route.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Public polling puts Gascon 30 points behind his challenger, Nathan Hawkman, a Republican turned independent, former federal prosecutor.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The slew of high wattage democratic politicians and funders who clamored to back his 2020 bid for district attorney from vice president Kamala Harris to George Soros are nowhere to be found.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither campaign has shown an appetite to cast the contest as a high stakes, broader referendum on criminal justice reform that would surely launch a thousand think pieces pondering the fate of the movement nationwide.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that's probably bad when prominent Democrats abandon you and you're the district attorney of Los Angeles showing that, uh, they don't believe they don't want to wade into this.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like this whole crime issue, obviously not working out in Democrats favor.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's definitely hurt.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kamala Harris, because they've hammered her on what happened in 2020 with George Floyd and all that stuff.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think they're, they want to wade into this and be like, oh yeah, we totally support progressive DAs because right now crime is a hot button issue.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it's going well for the Democrats.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But Gascon's widely anticipated loss could still leave a lasting imprint on the public safety debate, particularly as he appears on the same ballot as a state initiative that would increase penalty.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: For certain drug and theft crimes together, those races along with the second Bay Area progressive prosecutor in two years to face a recall would mark a notable rollback of the reforms.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: California voters embraced over the last decade at a time when crime consistently ranks as a top issue in the presidential election.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Prominent California Democrats, Governor Gavin Newsom, then Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and national party figures Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren endorsed his campaign with the aid of a super PAC.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Seated by the country's most prominent criminal justice reform advocates, Gascon one-handedly over Lacey, a fellow Democrat.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He instituted sweeping changes in the nation's most populous county, largely ending cash bail, banning his prosecutors from seeking the death penalty and rejecting the use of many sentencing enhancements.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Those shifts coupled with the nationwide crime spike of the pandemic era led to immediate backlash.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Another central part of his message has been going after Hawkman as a con, a covert Republican ill-fitted for deep blue Los Angeles, emphasizing how his challenger only recently left the GOP after running as the party's nominee for attorney general two years ago.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Hawkman anticipated Gascon's partisan jabs and worked hard to neutralize them.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He endorsed Harris, secured endorsements for local Democrats and aligned himself with the hard middle instead of Matt of Gascon's only hope from the beginning of this, given his job approval, personal unfavorability.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The perceptions of crime was to tribute tribalize the race turning into Democrat versus Republican thing that would have required a whole bunch of resources in a county that is bigger than 40 states.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So George Gascon.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely at this point, if the polls hold is not going to be the Los Angeles district attorney.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: After next year.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he would be.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Chesa Bodine was recalled in San Francisco, which was, I think, very radical.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked about this before, how there's been more and more moderate votes happening in San Francisco.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's been city measures that have increased police power in San Francisco.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01]: What did they they turn down something else that was really middle of the road?

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, I can't believe that actually got turned down in San Francisco.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I just go welfare.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the it was welfare that you had to get drug tested for welfare now in San Francisco.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And you were thinking San Francisco that like that's a Republican idea.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Now they're doing that in San Francisco.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Chesa Bodine was recalled.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that's been a Republican idea since I was like born.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a Republican idea forever.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Should be drug tested?

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's always come out to be like, why?

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, it's so racist to believe that they have to be drug tested for welfare.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, now it's now it's actual ordinance in San Francisco.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So Pamela Price is Alameda County.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: She's also facing a recall.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's the girl up in Oakland?

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it the mayor?

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Who's I forget?

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The mayor.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: The mayor.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And like she's under FBI investigation, right?

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She's facing a recall.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And it just came out Libby Sheffer, the former Oakland mayor, actually endorsed the recall.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Recently.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, OK.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So lots of Uber progressives getting recalled up and down the state right now here in California.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So when people say there's no hope for California, sometimes you got to look at the tea leaves

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and the silver lining and say, like, these progressives are being recalled up and down.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Gascon's not being recalled.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to lose his election handedly.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is interesting how crime is has become so bad in California, in Uber progressive California,

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that it is now deciding these elections by large landslide and percentage points.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's I you know, you'd think you wouldn't see the day.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of people are really fed up with how bad crime has gotten in California,

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: especially people like George Gascon, who's basically turned L.A. into like a war zone.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's basic things you have to do as a district attorney.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Sentencing people for committing crimes is part of it.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Sentencing people based on the severity of their crime is part of it.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And George Gascon, for some reason, didn't want to do any of that.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Bail reform, getting rid of sentence enhancements.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of that ended up in obviously crime taking over Los Angeles and now he's paying for it.

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So what are your thoughts?

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I just I know I'm no shame to anybody.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I know so many people have left California like that's no secret.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_05]: We know like, you know, plenty of people, but that's been a thing the last few years.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like it's like the overly strict parents who just they push and push like this strictness,

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_05]: which is not California is not strict, but like but like they push so far and so far of all these weird, lenient, crazy things that we allow.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And like so when kids get out of that really strict home and they like finally leave home, they go to college or whatever.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_05]: All of a sudden, all their morals that they've been taught, like just go out the window.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_05]: They're like do everything that they were never allowed to do.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And they go so far the opposite.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like that's kind of what we're seeing now in California is where we've let so many things just cross the lines and run wild and rampant.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And now people are like, hold on, hold on.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_05]: This is not what I thought was going to happen.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_05]: This is not what I wanted.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And now they actually want change.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I think we're actually seeing that now that like, hey, I don't I don't want this.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't even want to blame it on a political party.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't want to say this left leaning DA, but I don't want this DA who just doesn't want to enforce things.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't you know, we want law and order.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Law and order is a good thing.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And I had a question for you related to this.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: What's my question?

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, do you think Nathan Hockman?

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_05]: He was registered Republican, re registered as independent.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think that helped his race?

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Or do you think Gascon's popularity was just going so far down that they're like, please, anybody but Gascon?

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably a combination of both.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Gascon was incredibly weak.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I read that he only got 25% of the vote in the primary, which for an incumbent is like really bad.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so the fact that he didn't really do well right out of the gate, I think he was he's incredibly unpopular.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And there definitely was an opportunity for someone like Hawkman to come in.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And if they're saying it is true that he was able to buttress their attacks before they happened, maybe he was smart enough to be like, look, I'm going to turn independent.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to endorse Kamala Harris.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I'm going to get local Democrats to to get behind me.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And this kind of reminds me of like what we talked to Jeff Gonzalez about a couple weeks back about how there are Democrats.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, before everybody gets their pitchforks and, you know, torches out, there are Democrats in California who are more middle of the road and they're afraid to speak up.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But they've see an avenue to work with certain Republicans on issues and crime is one of them.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think crime is definitely something that probably local politicians in Los Angeles County are looking at someone to say, look, I'm going to support the guy who's going to be tough on crime.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I can put that on my my ballot or on my resume of saying like I was become a partisan issue.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of weird that crime has become partisan.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've gotten to the point in California where being tough on crime is now partisan as opposed to and there are definitely arguments to be made about the severity of punishments, prison population and stuff like that.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to really get down into the nitty gritty arguments.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But to make it partisan in terms of Democrat versus Republican and how they tackle crime is kind of crazy.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously in California, I think they've they've shown that the Democratic way of handling crime in California is not popular.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably why like Kamala Harris has not come out to endorse George Gascon.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And like they're basically just they've abandoned him.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're like, you're going to lose.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want any part of you.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You're toxic.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want anything.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Your tick tocks are really cringy.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to be seen with you.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Has she endorsed anybody in California?

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's a very broad question that I don't actually expect you to know.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But if you know of anyone off the top of your head, because I'm almost wondering if she's like wanting to just kind of stay out of California, like separate herself from the mess that's become.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually know.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't even think she's endorsed like Adam Schiff for like senator.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly, I don't even know.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I researched this one.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's probably the biggest statewide election we have going is the Senate this year.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: She hasn't come out in favor or against Prop 36.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So technically, she's a resident.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a resident.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, she can vote on Prop 36.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: She can vote on all the propositions.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: She can vote on all these all these candidates and stuff.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She yeah.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she is kind of really stayed out of California.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's probably because they know that if she's seen in California going buddy, buddy with far left Democrats or progressives.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That it's going to be fodder for the Trump team to be like, oh, look at her palling around with super progressive Adam Schiff or palling around with George Gascon.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, is that what you want in the White House?

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're going to pounce on that.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of funny.

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone who's so proud of being from California who got her start in California has basically abandoned California and doesn't want anything to do with California, which.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of shows you the state California politics are in right now, like how bad it is that the person running for president from California is like, no, I'm not going to even dip my toes in to what's going on in California.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's an excellent point.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if she has endorsed anybody.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But now I wish I hadn't thought to look that up.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it, it, it is interesting.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there was an opportunity.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe him turning independent helped, uh, because he's not Republican.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he went out and endorsed Kamala Harris, but there are inroads.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if we're going to get down to the brass tacks, I think there are inroads for maybe right leaning moderates to kind of take these offices from Uber progressives.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe change some things like, and we've always talked about this on the show.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not about flipping California to red overnight because, you know, Trump's running for president.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be to change California.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like, we have to go from deep blue to purple.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's the progression.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to go like in the next several election cycles, we got to go purple where it's, you know, we're not deep blue anymore.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of a mix.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that's, I would take purple California over deep blue California right now, any day of the week.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think it was assemblyman, Bill Asalie when he was on our show.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he said, and I agree with him that it's, it's not even about flipping the assembly to red.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just about breaking the supermajority because he doesn't believe that we should have an extreme one way or the other.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not even looking for it to go red.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_05]: There needs to be a balance and there should, there should be a balance.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And then people have to learn to compromise and really work for the people.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, that's such an important point that we hammer home all the time because it is, it is so crucial.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: If you can break the supermajority in Sacramento, it changes the game plan completely.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And you'll ask any assemblyman, any state Senator, if you can break the supermajority, whoo, that changes a lot of things.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like now they can't ram things through.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They can't get their crazy ideas through.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they have to start compromising and they have to start working with some Republicans on the other side, or maybe moderate Democrats on the other side.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they have to start working with other people and they're not going to, you know, Scott Weiner is not going to get his wishlist granted every single year for whatever weird law he wants to.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, put out there like, you know, free banana hammocks for everybody who moves to San Francisco or something.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, anyway, but speaking of crime being a rising issue in not only California, but in America recently, the FBI quietly revises its coverup of increasing violent crime.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't know, the FBI reports all their statistics, which a lot of politicians then run off of and say, look, no crimes actually gone down during the Biden administration.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but quietly in the past couple of weeks, uh, the FBI updated.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is sort of like when we were going over unemployment numbers in California and how they would say like, oh, we added 80,000 jobs.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And then like a month later, like, just kidding.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We actually lost 800 jobs.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoopsie.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they mismanaged these numbers.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, the, the claim says manage the 24 billion homeless.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just, yeah, we're just, wow.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't, we certainly Corian Newsom, we don't need any sort of accountability or bill that would require the governor's office to report to the assembly.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be work that it would just be too much work for him to do that.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, uh, the FBI claims that serious violent crime has fallen by 5.8% since Biden took office.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The national crime victimization survey numbers show that the total violent crime has risen by 55.4%.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Rapes are up by 42% robbery by 63 aggravated assault by 55% all during Biden's term.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_05]: These are not small numbers.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: These are huge numbers.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that they said it fell by 5.8 and then nope, actually violent crime went up by 55%.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: That's huge.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a 50 point swing.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: In the opposite direction.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it says since the.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not even pretending to act shocked here because I actually didn't read this article.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I sent it to you and read the headline.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You sent it to me and you're like, we should talk about this on the show.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I went through and highlighted.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I was prepared.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Camille was, uh, you know, out, out to lunch.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like in my head, they like, maybe I glanced at it and was like, oh, violent crime.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, there was 50 additional violent crimes, not 55%.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, this is, I'm literally not pretending to be shocked right now.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm actually shocked.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Not that I couldn't be shocked after I told you I was in theater in high school.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: If it, if it was, if you were acting shocked, it was still better than those paid child actors.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We just saw.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, that's a pretty low bar, but you're welcome.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'm at a stop.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Since the NCVS started, the largest previous increase over three years was 27% in 2006.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So the increase under Biden was slightly more than twice as large.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That is so bad.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_05]: This, and this is, you're talking nationally, right?

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Not California, but national.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_05]: This is national.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the FBI's national crime statistics is that violent crime is up 55% during Biden's term.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like a lot of Republicans have been saying it's not, it's not actually down.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: They're not including this or this and these statistics or whatever.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And so if you include that, it's actually up.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I never like that, that kind of stuff is still over my head.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't go look into it.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It was just like, yeah, okay.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_05]: We're always going to argue.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But whenever they share that, that's like something that then I see like my left friends go fact check.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's the, you know, fact check.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And so it's like, this has been one of those things that they've been using against us of like, see, you guys just make up stuff.

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_05]: You make up stuff.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_05]: No, actually your side somehow made up a whole bunch of numbers that are extremely different than reality.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Not a little bit different.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't like, holy moly.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm still pretending to be shocked.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, double digits for any of this is astounding.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even single digits for any of this stuff is astounding.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, rapes are up by 42%.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Robbery is 63%.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's huge and disgusting.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the fact that this is what our country is going through is unbelievable.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It does talk about California says California's violent crime rate increased by 5.7% from 468 crimes per 100,000 residents in 2021 to 495.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_01]: In 2022, the Public Policy Institute of California reported recently, while the rates for robbery, theft with force and aggravated assault increased by 9.9% and 5.2% respectively.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Homicides reversed a 2.1% and 6.1% and 6.1%.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yay!

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: With a 0.1% decrease.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But they don't want you to own a gun, people.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't know.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want you carrying.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want you going out in public.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Here are you protecting yourself.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm sure those numbers will be revised at some point.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Quietly and like add a few percentages.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Quietly.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And to kind of put a bow on all of this, yes, Prop 36 is on the ballot.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So, probably perfect time between George Gascon and this news breaking.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Prop 36 is on the ballot.

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And just to reiterate, just so if you don't know what Prop 36 is, supports making changes to Prop 47, approved in 2014, including classifying certain drug offenses as treatment-mandated felonies, increasing penalties for certain drug crimes by increasing sentence lengths and level of crime, requiring courts to warn individuals convicted of distributing illegal drugs of their potential future criminal liability if they distribute deadly drugs like fentanyl, heroin, and cocaine, and methamphetamine.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And increasing sentences for theft based on the value of the property stolen.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So, that would be what Prop 36 does.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Crime.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes on Prop 36, even though we don't tell you how to vote.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we went over it last week.

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a yes for Prop 36 for me.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That is an easy yes for me.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So, just think of it this way.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, while crime is up by 55% across the country and 6% here in California, George Gascon is making TikTok videos.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So, if that gives you, if you're in the LA area and you're watching George Gascon do cringy TikTok videos, just think of how serious he is taking.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I pay attention to things that most people ignore.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't pay attention to the stuff that people, he should be paying attention to.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, violent crime.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Last story, and speaking of Los Angeles, Los Angeles Times won't endorse for president.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So, this came out, and this is an article you sent me.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The owner of Los Angeles Times has blocked the paper from endorsing a candidate for president this year.

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, the LA Times published its electoral endorsements for the 2024 election.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_01]: While the paper noted in its first line that it is, quote, no exaggeration to say this may be the most consequential election in a generation, end quote.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the only mention of the presidential race in its endorsements.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The paper's editorial board, which has endorsed Democratic candidates in every presidential race since it first endorsed, then-Senator Barack Obama in 2008, was preparing to do so once again this election.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But according to two people familiar with the situation, executive editor Terry Tang told editorial board staff earlier this month that the paper would not be endorsing a candidate in the presidential election cycle this year.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: A decision that came from the paper's owner, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a doctor who made his fortune in the healthcare industry.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And the paper did not explain its decision.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So, LA Times, just like Kamala's not endorsing anybody in California, LA Times has not endorsed Kamala Harris.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's the first Democrat presidential candidate to not be endorsed since ever, basically, since 2008.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't say 2008 was forever ago.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I said 2008.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw something.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I saw, speaking of the ticky-tock, I saw one that was like,

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the music you listen to now, or the music you listened to in the early 2000s,

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: was like the music your parents listened to in the 80s when you were growing up.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Like the oldest channels.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, why would you say that?

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I still think like 2000s music was like 10 years ago.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So, we kind of took a wild road to get there.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Democrats are getting desperate.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They are making cringy videos to try and get people to pay attention to them.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's working.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_01]: George Gascon, likely to not be reelected as district attorney while LA's on fire with violent crime.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So, moral of the story, Democrats got desperate and they're making these cringy videos to try and make people pay attention to them.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it's working.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think hopefully society has gotten past that.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Where like your cringy TikTok videos or social media videos aren't going to determine how I vote because I want to live in a safe city.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I want affordability.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, basic necessities of life.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we expect out of our politicians.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Not whatever that dance was.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So, any thoughts?

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No thoughts.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, on that note, thanks for tuning in, everybody.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Next week, we will be back with our election predictions.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: The last podcast before the election.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Very exciting.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's probably very nervous.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And Zach will be joining us.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So, that should be a fun episode.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to go through races and predict and talk about them.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So, make sure you tune into that.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If nothing else, you can see what our predictions are.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: See if we were right or wrong.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe rub it in our face.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe you can say we were right all along.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It will be a lot of fun.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, obviously, election night.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There will be no podcast.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I will be on NBC7 most of the night.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So, check that out.

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[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Because a lot of people don't talk about California politics enough.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And they talk about weird, cringy TikTok videos.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So, on that note, we'll see you on the next one.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Later.

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