On this episode of the California Underground, we discuss California's recent "creative" attempts to combat ICE including cookies, bans from future employment, and punishing corporations who do business with ICE. Also, we discuss San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan jumping into the race. Does he see an opening with so many lackluster Democrats? All that and more on this episode of the California Underground. Are you a Californian who feels isolated and alone in your political views in a deep blue state? Feel like you can’t talk about insane taxes, an overbearing government, and radical social experiments without getting a side eye? Then join us on the California Underground Podcast, the most trusted podcast on all things California politics.Original air date 2.3.26*The California Underground Podcast is dedicated to discussing California politics from a place of sanity and rationality.*Check out our full site for more information about the show at www.californiaunderground.liveFor more in depth California political news coverage, make sure to subscribe to our Substack at https://caunderground.substack.com Check out our sponsor for this episode, StopBox, by going to www.stopbox.com/californiaunderground to get 10% off your orderFollow California Underground on Social Media Instagram: www.instagram.com/californiaunderground X: https://twitter.com/CAUndergoundTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@californiaunderground?_t=8o6HWHcJ1CM&_r=1YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj8SabIcF4AKqEVFsLmo1jA Read about our Privacy Policy: https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/privacy-policy/
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California is coming up with all sorts of creative ways to combat
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ice, including baking cookies and not letting them be future
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law enforcement, all sorts of different ways.
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We're going to discuss whether that is legal or not.
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Also, we're going to talk about San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan, who
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jumped into the race because we don't have enough Democrats
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running for governor right now, so he decided he's going to jump
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in as well. All that and more on tonight's
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episode of The California Underground, starting right now.
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What's going on, everybody? Thanks for tuning in to another
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episode of California Underground.
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We got ton to talk about, especially with all this stuff
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going on with ICE. A new gubernatorial candidate, a
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new fighter or player has entered the arena before.
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We have to hop into everything. We got a lot to cover tonight.
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Start a little late. Sorry for the technical
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difficulties. Thank you everyone for showing
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up and tuning in live. Wherever you are from California
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or wherever you're watching, maybe across the country.
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Let us know where you are. I'll be observing the chat.
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But first, let me bring in my trusty Co host, the best, the
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fastest researcher in the West. Camille, What's going on,
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Camille? We got through the technical
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difficulties. We're here, we're live,
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everyone's hanging out. This is very exciting.
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Hi everybody. Thanks for being here.
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If you're a first time listener, let us know and thank you for
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anyone who's coming back for the 2nd, 3rd or 50th time.
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Absolutely. The regulars that we love to
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see. All right, we did start a little
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late, so I do want to get started right away with our
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stories. We were talking about before, we
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could have covered all the heavy stuff in the protests and stuff
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like that. But there's a video coming out
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tomorrow on the channel discussing more the heavy stuff
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about the ICE protests and all that.
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And we thought it'd be fun to kind of discuss these creative
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ways that California is trying to combat ice.
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And some of them are illegal. Some of them are, you know, kind
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of interesting baking cookies and stuff like that.
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And we're going to break them down.
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We're also going to be talking about school walk outs.
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Do you want your kid to be told to walk out and protest?
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Let us know in the chat your thoughts about teachers making
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that decision for your child, whether you want them deciding
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what they should go out and protest.
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Let's hop into that first story right now about some ice
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cookies. Morning.
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Sunday. Today is our last day of the big
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ice push. We are filling trays.
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We have as much as we can have today.
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Reminder that we are closed tomorrow and Tuesday.
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Say hi, guys. I don't know why people want to
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hang out here. It's a cool place.
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We got some gluten free today. We have some cookie cakes.
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Ice cream is up and running. Lucas slinging cookies.
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Michelle's slinging cookies, right?
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Come in and see us. I don't know what we'll have
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today, but we won't see you tomorrow.
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We won't see you Tuesday. That's what this is to tell you.
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Hi, guys. Hi, everybody.
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Thanks for following us. Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
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The early bird gets the Buckeyes cookies and all these folks are
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our favorite early birds. So no to tomorrow, no to
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Tuesday. We will have some on Wednesday.
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Not nearly the same quantity, mostly because I need to sleep.
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I have not slept since Wednesday because we have been trying to
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crank out as much of these cookies as possible in support.
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Remember that all the money from the sales goes to the Women's
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Foundation of Minnesota for their Rapid Immigrant Response
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Fund. So every dollar is worth it,
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which is why we have been sacrificing sleep for it.
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But I'm starting to think my kids think they're orphans.
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So we've, I've got to go back to normal functionality.
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So the production will slow down greatly, but we will still have
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them. So pop in if you're lucky, you
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know? Hi guys.
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Thanks everyone for joining us. Oh.
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All right, I think we get the point.
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So this bakery and Altadena baked cookies with F Ice over
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it, they sold out within 12 minutes.
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I will say this, I'm going to give her credit.
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At least she's putting her money where her mouth is and she's
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donated to an actual 'cause that she believes in which you're
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free to do. It's the United States of
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America. You can do that and bake and
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give away your profits. That's that's the beauty of the
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free market and businesses. You can take your profits and
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send them off to any charity you want, but it is, you know, just
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the sign of Los Angeles and their attitude towards ice.
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I don't know if this is going to combat ice.
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I don't know if this, I mean, people don't like ice in Los
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Angeles. So it she's better than the
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people like Billie Eilish who virtue signal at the Grammys
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about being on stolen land and stuff like that.
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At least she's doing like she's working hard and she's giving
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her money away to charity as opposed to Billie Eilish who's
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talking about stolen land and then not giving the land back
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that she actually has her $7 mansion on.
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So what were your thoughts when you watched this Baker baking
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her F ice cookies? I had very similar thoughts.
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It's it's a free country and she believes in this cause actually
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I did check out that nonprofit and I didn't find anything I
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didn't thoroughly check about, but I didn't find anything shady
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because they barely bring in an income.
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And so they it's going to be really hard for them to pay
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themselves, you know, huge salaries as a nonprofit when
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they barely brought in any money.
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And I don't, I don't actually know what they're doing in
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Minnesota. But again, you know, she
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believes in this cause and she found a way that she could
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support it. And again, I give her credit for
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that because when people really do stand behind their passions,
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she's not doing something dangerous.
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She's not out there. Well, I don't know, maybe when
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she's not at the cookie shop, she's maybe doing nefarious
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stuff. But like, as far as this video
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is concerned, what she's doing is she seems to own a bakery and
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she's like, hey, I can actually send a message and send some
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money. And you know, good, good for
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her. Whether or not you agree with
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her, 'cause good for her for standing behind it and doing
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something about it. I do think it's silly.
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I am not offended by the F word, but at the same time, I just
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kind of when I see people do stuff like that as you roll my
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eyes because I just think it's just immature.
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It's it's my opinion when you like make those statements
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behind closed doors with your friends and stuff and that's
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fine. But then I feel like like
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literally putting on this cookie and then advertising it and
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probably going viral over it. Just as like, I don't know, it's
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not classy to me. And not that everything has to
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be classy, but it's not classy to me.
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I just kind of go whatever. But again, free nation.
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And that is the one of the beauties of our free nation is
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she gets to do that. So I would be interested real
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quick. I'd be interested to get her
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opinion if somebody was a Baker and they baked cookies that said
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like FBLM, like what would her be her response to that?
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Would she be like, I don't know, And, and all the proceeds went
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to like some nonprofit that benefited like police and law
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enforcement or something like that.
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I wonder what her response would be then, if she would be as
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tolerant if somebody baked FBLM cookies, because it always seems
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to go one way. Oh, it's, you know, we're
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fighting against the machine. We're so rebellious.
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We're baking these cookies and we're so we're, we're so radical
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and stuff like that. And then if you did it on the
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other side, they'd probably like want to burn down your bakery
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and destroy you and docks you and cancel you and stuff like
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that. So, you know, it's, it's just, I
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would imagine I'm not putting words in this lady's mouth.
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Maybe she'd be fine with it. But I, I have a good suspicion
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that if that were the case, she'd be one of the first people
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throwing rocks in this person's bakery and saying this is
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unacceptable, this is racist, this is, you know, this is
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fascism, blah, blah, blah. Like the whole commentary about
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it. So, yeah, sorry I jumped in
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there. You had another thought.
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Oh, it I was just going to say I I've actually been craving
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cookies all day, probably because that video, although I
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don't like icing and those cookies look disgusting to me.
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And that is not that has nothing to do with the message on them.
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I just I don't want any cookies loaded with icing ever.
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And my family went out to dinner like without me because I, you
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know, I was preparing for tonight and they went to this,
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this like kind of high end food court place that has a bunch of
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different, you know, all the, all the different like eateries
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and bakeries and everything. And I was like, bring me back
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cookies and they forgot to bring me back cookies.
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And then I just watched the video again and I really want
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some fruit and cookies without. My soccer book cookies, but I
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try to stay away from cookies after I went carnivore.
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So all right there, there is another video, one of our
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favorite assemblyman who still lives in his mom's basement.
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I don't know if he still does, but I like to pretend he still
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lives in his mom's basement because he's like 22 years old.
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Assemblyman Lee went on Ashley Zavala show and had this to say.
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His idea of how he's going to combat ice in his creative way.
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To curb our corporate friends from not doing business with ICE
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very simply, very simply stated is this bill does one thing.
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It says that if your corporation with contracts with ICE, the
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department homes and Homeland Security, then you will not
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benefit from California tax breaks.
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This is a choice. Either corporation can do
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business with the people of California and do all the
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amazing things that are doing or they can aid and abet ISIS reign
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of terror. They have a choice and there are
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many companies ranging from Armories, Ammunition, Palantir,
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private detention facilities that are partnering and and
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actually getting lots of profits from these ICE contracts.
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Of course, as you've seen, Congress had authorized lots of
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money towards ICE and lots of companies are in line to try to
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suckle off of that and gain more profits from this.
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But we try to make it clear in California is that we don't want
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our companies, our corporations to be aiding and abetting.
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And if you do, then do it in your own dime.
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And hopefully this will force the choice that many of the
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employees of those companies and consumers of the companies will
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say, well, we don't really want to be affiliated with ICE.
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So it's better that we keep our tax breaks then keep our
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contract with ICE. Can I say something?
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Yeah, go ahead. I I got a lot to say.
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Go ahead. Yeah, So what he the the
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statement right there when he just said go ahead, but do it on
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your own dime is the most hypocritical statement coming
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from an Assembly member who is quite literally talking about
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not wanting to give tax breaks and incentives to a corporation.
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So in other words, we want your Dimes so that we can do stuff on
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your Dimes, but you do this on your own dime.
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The government does nothing on their own dime because all their
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Dimes are from us. And so I just like, I didn't
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catch this, that the first time I've watched this video and all
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of a sudden I got a little bit angry.
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Like I'm not an angry person. I feel like I come out here and
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I say, I think I just need a better vocabulary.
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So angry is just my best word to describe.
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But it, it's like a trigger word or something.
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I don't know. I just got triggered and I'm
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just like, shut up. And I just want to like shake
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his shoulders. It's just one of those things
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where I want to be like, do you hear yourself?
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Do you know what you're saying? That's all.
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No. Excellent point.
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How much of this immigration situation, this confrontation
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with the federal government over what happened in Minneapolis,
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over what has happened in Los Angeles, how much of that is
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going to suck up the oxygen, do you think, from your
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perspective, when it comes to lawmaking and the use of
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taxpayer dollars at the Capitol? I think it's going to be a
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matter of high importance. It's going to take up a lot of
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attention in all the positive ways.
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I think last year in 2025, when we had no extent that ICE would
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be kidnapping babies and using them as bait or murdering people
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in the street. Of course, there's nine people
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so far that we've known have been murdered by ICE already.
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Even back then in 2025, we were on the defensive.
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We created a legal defense fund for immigrants.
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We created a fund for our Department of Justice to sue the
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Trump administration. And they're on like lawsuit 54
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right now to make sure we have ways to defend our freedoms and
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also to claw back the money that we're owed.
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So we're on the defensive in 2026, I think we're going to
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offense. We're going to see a lot more
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legislation aimed at curbing the behavior of ICE, holding the
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federal government accountable, and in my case, making sure that
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corporations aren't in bed with ICE.
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Dear Alex Lee, please name one baby that was ripped off the
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streets by ice. We are ruled by children.
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You said he's like 22. Like I said, he's.
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Actually, 20, that's like a comment on the fact that he's so
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young and also the fact that he he has no idea what the hell
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he's doing. First off, I want to go back to
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his whole idea of like, we're going to tax the corporation or
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we're going to cut the tax breaks for corporate.
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That's not how it works. That's not how this works.
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You don't get to use taxes as a cudgel to punish people and tax
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breaks discriminatorily. You can't do that.
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You can't. That's not legal to all of a
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sudden cut out these tax breaks of who and who cannot do this.
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I'm sorry. And it's just like Assemblyman
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Lee reminds me almost of an adult version of the kid who
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runs for like school president, Like the kid who's like, oh,
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we're going to have free pizza every Friday and we're going to
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get an 1/2 an hour more for recess.
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Because I think it's wonderful. It's all great, but it's not
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realistic. Like, none of it's realistic.
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Everything he comes up with is not realistic.
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That proposal about corporations to me just comes off as such a
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sound clip that will never go anywhere.
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It'll die in committee because even most probably the majority
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of experienced legislators will look at this and go, you can't
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get this through and it'll get struck down in court
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immediately. But we're we're like run by
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children. It's so crazy that that
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Sacramento, this is what they focus on, is these sort of
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issues that don't help the everyday Californian.
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And by everyday California, I mean the people who are here,
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who are working, who just want to get out.
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They want to provide for their family.
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They want to do all these things.
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And they're dealing with the high cost of electricity because
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you allow public monopolies to do whatever the heck they want.
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The high cost of gas, the high cost of everything under the sun
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from food, everything. Would an electricity company
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that provides electricity to a hotel where ICE stays at be
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exempt from tax incentives because they were technically
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supporting ICE? Yeah.
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I mean, that's a great point. How far does this?
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Go. If there's a ICE building that
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they use SDG and E, and all of a sudden it's like, Oh well, hold
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on, SDG and E works with ICE, so there goes their tax breaks or
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PG&E and PG&E dumps a ton of money into Democratic
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politicians, including Gavin Newsom.
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Are they going to have a little bit of an issue with losing tax
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breaks 'cause they work with the federal government and they work
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with ICE like these are? CNTMC, because they sell
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vehicles to these federal agencies, you know, they're
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souped up SUVs that are all like bulletproof or whatever.
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They tend to be Yukons or Chevrolet Suburbans, Tahoes,
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stuff like that. Like so are how far does this
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go? The, the batteries that are in
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these cars, the, the company that sold the battery or they
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now like Alex Lee, shut up. I'm old enough to be his mom.
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If he really is 22, like he's not much older than my son.
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Yeah, these are half baked ideas.
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I, I, him and Scott Weiner are the two who come up with these
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like just for show virtue signalling laws that nine times
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out of 10, thankfully don't go anywhere.
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I mean, he's Assemblyman Lee's also a big fan of like social
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housing, that ugly sort of like communist style housing where
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big Gray buildings and everyone lives really affordably.
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He's a big fan of that. So whenever anything comes out
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of Assemblyman Lee's mouth, I'm just like, dude, how are you
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even in a position of power? How are you deciding laws for
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the rest of us when you have like a, a barely a freshman
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college education on the world? Like you just don't understand
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economics. You don't understand the real
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world. I don't think he ever had a real
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job before he went to be an Assemblyman.
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And I want to laugh at Assemblyman Lee, but this video
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makes me angry because it just shows you who were kind of ruled
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over by like, I'm sorry to say, there's nothing better to say,
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but like idiots like Assemblyman Lee, so and I say idiot because
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it's an idiotic take. And then the whole thing about,
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you know, the inflammatory language of their kidnapping
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babies. Like where is that claim coming
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that they're kidnapping babies and using them as bait?
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For. For what I bet, like I wish you
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could grok people in real time when they're given an interview
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or like AI like Fact Check someone in as they're talking
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like there's AAI just fact checking them in the background.
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Maybe that's not a great thing because in all of our, you know,
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everyone would be being fact checked, all of our thoughts
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would be rewatched so. Like we're live, this is
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unedited and sometimes we might blur something out and it comes
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out totally wrong like this. Little and then we'll be
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backtracked. How we felt and people are like,
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well, they're like checking it where we're like, I didn't even
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mean that. Like, yeah, I, I especially, I
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say terrible things sometimes that literally like because I
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just twisted it came out of my mouth before it, you know, was
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in my head. I have said some terrible things
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to my daughters by mistake. One really quick example,
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because I do, I talk faster than I think.
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And I, I said to my daughter once get a different face.
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And that's not what I meant at all.
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I never meant to tell my daughter to get a different
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face. It just came out when I was
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like, I don't even remember. I was, she was making a face.
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I, it doesn't matter. But I said that.
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I did say that, and I 100% didn't mean that.
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There's that, yeah. All right, the final story that
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I want to pull this up right now, it's not a video, does it
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of. Ice not the not of the evening.
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No, no, we still got for a. 2nd and I was like what time is it?
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That's it. We're we've been on for 20
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minutes. We're we're doing this whole new
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thing. We're only going to be on tour
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for 20 minutes at a time. Instead of doing hour long
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shows, we're just going to do a bunch of small 20 minute shows.
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All right, so this is California bill bans ICE agents from
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teaching, policing jobs. AB 1627 will permanently ban
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former ICE agents from serving as police officers or teachers
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in California. The disqualified
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disqualification applies to anyone employed by ICE during
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the second Trump administration, specifically from September 2025
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to January 2029. So basically this whole term,
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what we know, Anna Marie Avia Frias, Democrat from Martinez,
00:20:53
introduced Assembly Bill 1627 as the misconduct ends Law
00:20:59
Enforcement Trust Act Melt ice again, we are ruled by children.
00:21:08
The fact that some one of her aides probably sat down and
00:21:11
said, oh, if we name it this, we can call it the Melt Ice Act
00:21:17
Adorable. The bill will permanently
00:21:19
disqualify anyone who worked for US Immigration and Customs
00:21:22
Enforcement ICE between September 1st, 2025 and January
00:21:25
20th, 2029 from holding jobs in California law enforcement or
00:21:28
public education. The ban also extends beyond ICE
00:21:32
to include former employees of the Alabama and Georgia
00:21:35
Department of Corrections served between 2020 and 2026.
00:21:42
Don't know what that's all about.
00:21:43
That's I I'm still scratching my head.
00:21:46
Why they California? Like.
00:21:49
California's just like, sure, let's just throw in Alabama and
00:21:52
Georgia because. I need a minute to just like.
00:21:57
Just process it. I need AI, need a minute to
00:22:00
defrost. Sorry, I'll see myself out.
00:22:04
Additionally, legal experts are questioning whether the state
00:22:06
can legally enforce a lifetime ban on a specific class of
00:22:09
former federal employees without violating federal labor
00:22:12
protections or constitutional due process.
00:22:16
Yeah, so that is that's the MELT ICE Act.
00:22:24
I I think I told you both of these.
00:22:27
Maybe it was something else. I don't know.
00:22:28
These just feel like SNL skits. The especially so this one is
00:22:35
only like from this date, like from when Trump's presidency.
00:22:41
It you don't like it doesn't matter what ICE did under Biden.
00:22:45
If you worked if you know for ICE under Biden and then you
00:22:48
quit and you maybe became a gym teacher or something at a public
00:22:52
school, it's they're like, that's fine.
00:22:55
You were you were under an OK administration.
00:22:57
But you know, if you worked for ICE under the Trump
00:23:00
administration, then then we're you're just not hireable.
00:23:04
And the Alabama thing, I didn't even look up that.
00:23:07
I don't know what that's going on there.
00:23:08
That's really, really random. And this so dumb.
00:23:12
Like you, you can hate ICE, you can disagree with ICE, you can
00:23:17
want to abolish ICE. That's fine.
00:23:20
You're free to totally hold those opinions.
00:23:22
But I don't understand this attitude of like, if you do XY
00:23:29
and Z, we're going to punish you this way.
00:23:31
And what if you did work for ICE under a former administration
00:23:36
And then you were like, you know what, I saw some things and I
00:23:39
completely disagree with what ICE did.
00:23:41
And you quit and you just like got some, maybe you went back to
00:23:45
school because you actually wanted to become a teacher, you
00:23:47
know, in a, in a public school setting.
00:23:49
And and you were like, ice is disgusting.
00:23:53
And I hate this. And I mean, I'm going to do
00:23:55
something that really matters and I'm going to teach.
00:23:58
And then they're like, oh, sorry, no, you I mean, obviously
00:24:03
it doesn't apply to these people that were under the former
00:24:05
administration, but what if it happened last year?
00:24:08
And they're just like, no, you're not.
00:24:11
You're not allowed to change, you're not allowed to grow.
00:24:14
And I'm not saying that people who worked for ICE need to
00:24:19
change and grow, and I'm not saying they're not.
00:24:21
What I am saying is that you're literally just like putting
00:24:25
someone in this box forever and you're holding someone to who
00:24:28
they were in a past, whatever. And you're just like now, OK, I
00:24:34
agree that there's like disgusting things like child
00:24:36
molesters need to not be working in like child molesters need to
00:24:38
actually just go away forever. And I like stay out of society,
00:24:43
but like working for ICE, you're working for the government and
00:24:48
then the government is like, no, you can't work for this, the
00:24:51
California government. You can't work for this federal
00:24:52
corporation because of our new bill and or this federal agency,
00:24:56
which public schools are, they receive federal funds.
00:25:00
I don't get that. I don't get how they can even
00:25:02
say that. And I, I'm OK, first of all,
00:25:05
this probably won't pass. Second, all, if it does, I'm
00:25:08
sure it'll be challenged in court.
00:25:09
Third of all, if it does pass and all that, Trump will be
00:25:12
like, OK, fine, no federal funds for you.
00:25:17
Yeah. That's what he does.
00:25:18
That's usually his response to a lot of stuff is if you disagree
00:25:22
with me on this, I'm going to pull federal funds.
00:25:25
Someone in the chat had a better name for it.
00:25:28
Why not call it the Heat Miser Act for those who are fans of
00:25:34
Frank and Bass Christmas specials, the old Heat Miser.
00:25:37
Wish I had a clip of that to show everyone, but yeah, the
00:25:41
melt Ice act legally, from my professional opinion, probably
00:25:47
won't stand a snowball's chance in in hell.
00:25:51
Well, we're just. On it with the puns.
00:25:52
We're on the puns of melting ice and snowballs and heat miser and
00:25:55
stuff like that. So I don't think it's going to
00:25:59
pass. Or even if it does pass, it'll
00:26:01
get challenged immediately because you can't discriminate
00:26:04
based on certain job classification.
00:26:05
I mean, could you imagine if like they were like, hey, if you
00:26:08
were ever, you know, like a school teacher, we don't want
00:26:13
you to be, I don't know anything like we don't want you to be a
00:26:16
chef or a cook or something like that.
00:26:18
Like you can't do that. You can't tell people what they
00:26:20
can and cannot be. So yeah, that's the melt ice
00:26:26
act. Now before we did hop on about
00:26:29
1/2 an hour before I got Camille all riled up because it's one of
00:26:32
her favorite topics about schools and public schools.
00:26:37
If you didn't know this, they are organizing in schools to
00:26:43
have all these walk outs and protests and there were a bunch
00:26:46
here in California. I want to pull up some of the
00:26:50
stuff that we can see. Let me pull this up.
00:26:54
I'm just going to pull it. Public education.
00:26:57
I'm sorry. What we do have a shirt on our
00:27:00
website, California underground dot live.
00:27:01
You can go check it out. Defund public education.
00:27:04
We're a fan of school choice over here.
00:27:06
Camille is a fan of school choice and home schooling.
00:27:10
All right, I want to show some of these videos, so let's see.
00:27:16
Pull this up. This is on X.
00:27:19
So this was what it looked like when they let people out of
00:27:25
Stockton. So.
00:27:43
All right, that looks like a very peaceful protest, doesn't
00:27:46
it? Stockton Just for just for
00:27:51
educational purposes. Stockton I think has a 24%
00:27:55
reading proficiency. Stockton Public Unified.
00:27:57
So good job. Stockton.
00:27:59
I don't know if you should be more focused on protests and
00:28:02
letting kids out to protest or teaching them how to read
00:28:04
correctly. So Stockton, I don't know if
00:28:06
you're in any place to be doing this.
00:28:09
This was in Texas. So they let this out and then
00:28:11
they start beating the crap out of a teacher.
00:28:15
So things are going really well over there.
00:28:18
This is example of more kids. These are high school kids in
00:28:22
Los Angeles. Campbell Hall High students in
00:28:25
Los Angeles walk out to protest ice.
00:28:28
This is from our friend Amy Reichardt.
00:28:30
So let's see community update. I want to see what it says.
00:28:34
Deer Castle Park High community. We'd like to inform you that
00:28:36
some of our students are participating today in a student
00:28:38
LED peaceful protest during the school day.
00:28:41
Student participation is voluntary.
00:28:43
School administration, campus supervision are actively
00:28:46
monitoring the situation of taking appropriate measures to
00:28:48
ensure student safety and maintaining orderly campus
00:28:51
environment. Instructions continue as
00:28:53
scheduled for students who remain in class.
00:28:54
Now, if you're in school, do you think you're going to be the one
00:28:58
narc who doesn't end up going here because there's so much
00:29:01
peer pressure? I remember what it was like in
00:29:03
high school. There's a lot of peer pressure
00:29:05
to kind of follow the crowd and do what everyone else is doing.
00:29:09
So I can't imagine there's going to be a lot of kids who stay
00:29:11
behind. But kudos to the kids who do
00:29:13
stay behind. And this is what they're
00:29:16
engaging in. This is the peaceful protesting
00:29:18
that these students are engaging in.
00:29:20
So Huntington Beach, here we go. Parents take their kids out to
00:29:25
school and line the streets to protest.
00:29:28
That's the vaccine mandate. So yeah, that's gives you an
00:29:32
idea. This was a couple days ago.
00:29:36
Catholic California high school students walked out of class to
00:29:38
protest ice carrying F Trump and F ice signs.
00:29:42
Teachers are poorly playing to resign out to school.
00:29:44
Sacred Heart Anthem promoted the walkout and more students.
00:29:50
More students, you start to get the idea this is Brentwood, CA
00:29:54
stage to walk out to protest ice more and that's Stockton again.
00:29:59
Santa Ana High School students walk out demanding ice out.
00:30:04
Palm Desert High School. I mean, it's kind of crazy that
00:30:07
there's so many schools organized this and did this.
00:30:13
Where is this? Summit High School in Fontana,
00:30:15
CA? It just goes on and on and on.
00:30:19
And this is really, I think that might be the perfect place and
00:30:22
teachers should teach not push politics, which I really agree.
00:30:26
I, I think there is no reason for these teachers to be pushing
00:30:31
this on students. I think it should stay out of
00:30:34
it. There's not much else you can
00:30:38
say it. It's frustrating because a lot
00:30:40
of these schools in California public schools by no means are
00:30:44
doing fantastic. I see.
00:30:46
The last time I was like 49th, 45th or something in education
00:30:50
in the entire country with the amount of money we spend on
00:30:53
education. And we should be worried about
00:30:57
actually teaching the, the children, not indoctrinating
00:31:00
them with these ideologies and forcing them out into the, the
00:31:04
street. Because a lot of these kids
00:31:07
maybe didn't want to go, maybe just ended up going, maybe it
00:31:10
was peer pressure. Maybe they felt like they had to
00:31:11
go. Their teachers were in on it.
00:31:13
I mean, imagine if a teacher is in support of this and you know,
00:31:19
you, you don't want to upset your teacher because you're
00:31:21
worried they may look at you differently.
00:31:23
So you go anyway. Like there's a lot a high school
00:31:26
kid is peer pressured into. And that's why I say they're
00:31:31
forced to do this. There's probably a good amount
00:31:34
of kids who are forced to do this and forced to accept this.
00:31:37
And yeah, those are my thoughts. Let me see if I can find some
00:31:41
more videos. I want to hear your thoughts
00:31:43
while I look up some more videos.
00:31:46
These past six years have 100% shown us education is not about
00:31:50
education, it's about indoctrination.
00:31:52
If you don't get that, if you don't see that now I I don't
00:31:56
know what to tell you. And I'm not saying that your
00:31:58
child doesn't go to a good school or that they're not
00:32:00
learning something, but 100% it has always been about, oh,
00:32:03
education is so important. Education is so important.
00:32:06
Like we've all heard that all of our lives.
00:32:08
Oh, education, education, education.
00:32:10
And then this is like between the COVID lockdowns and keeping
00:32:14
kids actually out of school and then the ridiculous online
00:32:17
learning that they went through and the mandates of the COVID
00:32:20
shots. And then all the just like
00:32:21
separation and walk, you know, one way down a grocery store
00:32:25
aisle and, you know, do your job to help others get vaccinated.
00:32:30
Don't kill grandma. And now this like we need to
00:32:34
walk out and protest ice and hold these stupid signs and make
00:32:37
a statement that F Trump and like, you know, screw our
00:32:41
government, which, OK, I totally with the screw the government,
00:32:44
but not on the same lines that they are not defending Trump,
00:32:48
but it's 100% indoctrination. And I, I feel like I've been
00:32:56
like, like, it's not up to me to choose what, what you do for
00:32:59
your children. And, and I'm not saying this in
00:33:03
any like superiority complex. It was just that there was so
00:33:06
much of this that I saw the writing on the wall, which is
00:33:08
why I chose to homeschool my kids from the beginning.
00:33:10
My kids have never been in a regular school setting.
00:33:12
I've graduated to my third graduates this year.
00:33:16
These are the things that I saw coming in, in a sense.
00:33:21
And I was like, I will never put my kids through that.
00:33:23
When my niece, who is a few years older, like she's in her
00:33:28
20s, a few years old with my kids, when she was in
00:33:30
kindergarten, my sister had her in a local homeschool program.
00:33:33
It was through this public school district, but it was like
00:33:36
she was homeschooling her. And so she had a lot of control
00:33:40
over what was being taught. But they asked the
00:33:43
kindergartners, OK, like, what 5-6 year olds to do, like write
00:33:47
a paragraph about. I think it was the year that I'm
00:33:50
probably going to Nancy Pelosi and then one other Barbara
00:33:53
Boxer. So who were like a both elected
00:33:57
in California and they were like, write a paragraph of why
00:33:59
this is the year of the women. And I was like, Oh, hell no, I'm
00:34:02
never putting my kids in public school.
00:34:04
I had a my son was like 2 at the time.
00:34:07
And I was like, not, I'm not doing that.
00:34:09
I'm not going there. I'm not like, no, and I'm sorry,
00:34:16
again, not a spirity thing here, but I'm just, I'm so grateful
00:34:21
that I had that that kind of like foresight of this is 100%
00:34:26
indoctrination. And my family being like my, my
00:34:29
parents, my sisters and a bunch of my nieces and nephews.
00:34:32
We have this giant group text that they were all texting on
00:34:35
just a few minutes before I hopped on here, none of them
00:34:38
knowing that we were going to be discussing ice tonight and they
00:34:41
were talking about what they're seeing at their schools.
00:34:44
And my sister works at an elementary school and she said
00:34:48
she couldn't believe what the sign said, which she didn't say
00:34:52
what they said, but she was like, no elementary school
00:34:55
student has any business holding up a sign that said what it
00:34:58
said. She's like, I just couldn't
00:34:59
believe it. I'm like, tell me I want, I want
00:35:01
to know. But she didn't because there's
00:35:02
like younger kids on the group text.
00:35:04
She wasn't saying I'll have to ask her later on our like adult
00:35:08
group text. But it's I think we talked about
00:35:13
the teachers unions. They're totally behind this.
00:35:17
That's a fact down with the teachers unions defund the
00:35:20
teachers unions to fund to fund public education school choice.
00:35:26
I'm sorry, I'm totally ranting and I don't mean to offend
00:35:28
anybody whose kids are in public school.
00:35:30
And I'm sure that many of you have amazing kids who have done
00:35:33
amazing things in public school. And I'm I just good, good on
00:35:36
them, good for you. But as this like for me, I guess
00:35:42
I feel like, oh, I'm so glad I got two kids out of this.
00:35:45
And then my younger 2 are in high school and it's like, I
00:35:48
think they're going to be OK, but it's just going to get worse
00:35:52
from here. And that's, I guess, the
00:35:55
concern. So I did find some parent
00:36:00
reaction. So like I said, some parents are
00:36:02
not happy about this. As I can see in the chat, people
00:36:05
are also very not happy about this if this were their kids.
00:36:09
Apologies if there is explicit language, but we're all adults
00:36:13
here so we can handle it. But here's this first guy
00:36:16
school. Just brought him to a protest.
00:36:20
So he's currently at a fucking protest.
00:36:23
I'm fitting to go rage. Who the fuck said you could
00:36:27
bring my child to a protest? Any of our kids to a protest?
00:36:32
They see what's happening today. Bringing kids out there now
00:36:36
purposely in schools. Washington state send this out.
00:36:40
Washington state sending their kids to protest.
00:36:46
I'll see you soon. Let me give you a little rundown
00:36:48
on the way there. White Center, we call out here,
00:36:52
Rat City. If anybody from Washington state
00:36:55
knows this, this Rat City is not in the area bring kids, let
00:36:58
alone bring kids to a protest in this piece of shit city.
00:37:02
If anybody knows White Center you know Rat City is dangerous.
00:37:06
All right, so that's one this guy also had.
00:37:10
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, a lot of these protests
00:37:14
get out of hand. Not all of them, but we, we're
00:37:16
like seeing, you know, it's, you can't, you can't deny this.
00:37:19
A lot of these protests are getting out of hand.
00:37:20
People are getting shot, stabbed, killed, punched, beat
00:37:24
up, you know? So Can you imagine the lawsuits
00:37:30
that these schools could have if they did without the parents
00:37:35
permission, take some of these minors to a protest?
00:37:39
And then if something gets out of hand and some of them get
00:37:41
hurt, injured, killed like that, that's just a dumb move on the
00:37:49
school's part for that reason. I did see videos of they were
00:37:56
taking like little kids out, like little kids, like grade
00:38:00
school kids out in San Francisco, and they're walking
00:38:03
down the street and was like 40 kids, 3540 kids and only like
00:38:07
two or three teachers walking down the street.
00:38:09
And that is not enough chaperones to be monitoring.
00:38:12
Like what happens if one little kid just wanders off and you
00:38:15
don't notice it? Well, it happens.
00:38:17
If Wayne Little crashes again, that's been going on like
00:38:20
crashes into them. Yeah, but I mean, that could
00:38:24
happen. And then the school is going to
00:38:25
be seeing a huge, huge lawsuit and all these public schools
00:38:31
with our tax dollars will have to defend it.
00:38:32
So this is another parent right here who obviously upset I.
00:38:37
Just dropped my girls off at school.
00:38:38
Let me tell you what the fuck they won't be doing today.
00:38:42
A lunchtime rebellion. Half these kids don't even know
00:38:44
what the fuck they're walking out for.
00:38:46
Walk outs just don't happen. This shit gets encouraged, they
00:38:49
get quietly greenlit by adults who should know better and loop
00:38:52
in the ones who just take their kids out to fucking protest.
00:38:55
And you wonder why your fucking kid comes back with a fat ass
00:38:57
knot on their head. It's because of your stupidity,
00:39:00
goofy bitch. If this shit was about skipping
00:39:02
school for literally anything else, consequences, rules, write
00:39:06
ups, detention, the whole fucking playbook.
00:39:08
But slap a political label on it and suddenly has let the kids
00:39:12
express themselves. Some of these fucking adults are
00:39:15
the same ones who just swear they're just facilitators.
00:39:17
Not if you're hurting kids into political theater.
00:39:21
You're not facilitating. But.
00:39:22
You're indoctrinating it. What?
00:39:27
Why did he drop his kids off at school?
00:39:29
He's now he's like, I just dropped my kids off and this is
00:39:33
what's happening. OK, Don't drop your kids off.
00:39:36
Figure it out. I understand that maybe like you
00:39:38
and your wife or maybe your single dad or whatever and you
00:39:42
work and you're like, what I'm going to do with my kids.
00:39:44
But if you feel so passionately about this not being a safe
00:39:49
environment or a good environment for your kids to be
00:39:51
at, then don't drop them off. Like now I'm kind of angry at
00:39:54
this guy. Like you see that there's a huge
00:39:57
problem here, but instead of taking responsibility for it and
00:39:59
saying I'm not. Put my kids in school today
00:40:02
because XY and Z may happen. May likely happen right now.
00:40:07
But OK then Sir, you need to now take your kids out and figure it
00:40:12
out. Yeah, somebody just said I would
00:40:14
take my kids out of any school for their safety and stop them
00:40:17
from indoctrination. So as in the chat right now,
00:40:21
it's OK if the kids, you know, miss a day of school and you and
00:40:26
they, you know, you can fight that.
00:40:28
But there was another video. So so this was posted as it's
00:40:33
hey, to your point, like these kids are in danger.
00:40:38
After being encouraged to protest ICE by facility teacher,
00:40:40
student at Fremont High School runs in front of car during
00:40:43
walkout and struck and injured by SUV.
00:40:47
Wait for real? Yeah, this is as of like
00:40:51
yesterday, February 2nd this happened.
00:40:53
That's so sad. So this is.
00:40:55
This is what happens, and it's because of.
00:40:58
That's really sad. This is where the indoctrination
00:41:03
and the the teachers, and I say this because there's a, there's
00:41:07
a good amount of teachers who are really, really good.
00:41:09
There's a lot of teachers who really care about teaching.
00:41:11
And I don't want to indict all teachers, but there's a few bad
00:41:15
apples in public school who ruin it for the rest of the public
00:41:19
school educators because they feel like it's their job that
00:41:23
they're with your kids 6-7 hours a day or 8 hours a day, however
00:41:27
long it is that they have to teach you because they believe
00:41:32
what we're teachers. We're molding young minds.
00:41:34
I have to teach you the correct way to think, which is my way of
00:41:38
thinking. And then these kids can't read
00:41:41
or do math. It's, it's gotten out of hand
00:41:46
with how self-righteous and important some teachers have
00:41:50
gotten that they believe they have to do this.
00:41:54
They have to make it a big thing.
00:41:55
They have to be all proud. And I can guarantee you there's
00:41:58
probably, if you looked hard enough, I'm sure there's plenty
00:42:01
of social media posts of teachers who are proud of their
00:42:05
students and taking pictures of their students and being like,
00:42:07
look, I got all my students out to protest ice and I'm such a,
00:42:10
I'm such a white savior and stuff like that.
00:42:13
It, it, it's mind boggling that they don't think farther than I
00:42:19
just want to get these virtue signaling points.
00:42:21
It's almost like Assemblyman Lee, like they think the virtue
00:42:25
signal and then they don't think of the reality and the real
00:42:28
world consequences after the virtue signal.
00:42:32
So, and, and unfortunately this kid got hurt, they went out and,
00:42:36
and you're there's not enough adults, there's not enough
00:42:39
chaperones, there's not enough people to watch these kids and
00:42:42
make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to be
00:42:44
doing and that they're safe. So then these kids get all
00:42:48
ramped up, they get all hyped up and then they're making dumb
00:42:51
mistakes like they're getting hit by an SUV.
00:42:53
So how's the school going to explain to those parents?
00:42:56
Oh, we let your kid out of school for a protest and then he
00:42:59
got hit by an SUV? And what if he had I?
00:43:02
Just really sad about that. That's.
00:43:05
Heartbreaking. If you get hit that hard by an
00:43:07
SUV, you break your leg, maybe you have a life injury that you
00:43:12
can't play sports anymore or something like that.
00:43:14
Like that's, well, that's heartbreaking that you did that
00:43:16
to that kid only because you want to feel good about yourself
00:43:22
and virtue signal and be part of this woke crowd of, you know,
00:43:29
self-righteous people who think you're so amazing.
00:43:33
Yeah. I think any parents who or or
00:43:36
any teachers who organized this and were part of this, I don't
00:43:40
know. I know there's a shortage of
00:43:42
teachers, but they should be fired if you're telling kids to
00:43:46
go and protest and you're indoctrinating them with
00:43:48
politics and putting them in danger.
00:43:50
So it'd be the same if take politics out of it like that guy
00:43:55
said, because you slapped politics on it.
00:43:58
Now it's OK to take your kids out and put them in danger and
00:44:01
put them in these situations that could harm them.
00:44:03
But once you all, once you say we're protesting ice, then it's
00:44:06
fine. It's everything's OK.
00:44:08
We look past all the safety concerns and stuff like that.
00:44:10
So it's it's frustrating. Thanks for going to be all riled
00:44:16
up. I knew I'd get you all riled.
00:44:19
I was watching this. It was on the news.
00:44:21
I watched another great creator decoy voice was talking about
00:44:24
this today and I was like, oh, this is a good story for us to
00:44:26
cover tonight. I don't know if you have any
00:44:29
more thoughts about any of this, any of the the school stuff.
00:44:34
Used. Even I'll take an ice cookie at
00:44:38
this point just to feel better. Yeah, yeah, I could just scrape
00:44:42
off the frosting. Someone said hold on, chats
00:44:47
going so wild. I'm trying to keep up with all
00:44:49
your chats. So I said we should be able to
00:44:54
trust our institutions. Now we have to play defense
00:44:56
against them, right? Let's see take the school's
00:45:02
funding, they have to go. They make it in our area close
00:45:05
to 200 a year, put them out of work.
00:45:09
So a lot of people upset in the chat.
00:45:15
Let's say somebody said my daughter teaches 4th grade and
00:45:19
California has crazy students that speak zero English that are
00:45:21
violent and abusive to other students. 30 plus students in a
00:45:24
class including autistic etcetera.
00:45:26
See that This is why we're fans of school choice.
00:45:30
School choice will will fix this because a lot of studies have
00:45:34
shown those who benefit the most from school choice, inner city
00:45:40
minorities studies have been done over and over again that
00:45:45
you get a lot of these, you know, kids are in inner cities,
00:45:48
you get them to get to better schools, changes their life.
00:45:53
All right, next story is a little bit of a lighter story.
00:45:57
I know we got everyone all riled up.
00:45:58
Everyone's blood pressure is going through the roof right
00:46:01
now. Last story of the night, We have
00:46:05
a new player in the game for a gubernatorial race.
00:46:09
And you and I had kind of had our eye on him for a while.
00:46:14
And I think you even showed me like an old text of like, hey,
00:46:17
we should keep an eye on this guy.
00:46:18
And this was like 3 or 4 months ago.
00:46:21
That was like almost a year ago. It was almost a year ago that I
00:46:24
was like, we should keep an eye on this guy was.
00:46:25
Marching, 2025. And I was like this.
00:46:28
On the back for this one. And I was like, we should keep
00:46:33
an eye on this guy. I think he's going to run for
00:46:34
governor. I think he's making the move,
00:46:36
no? I said, I said what I what I did
00:46:39
say is like, I think we need to keep an eye on the San Jose
00:46:43
mayor. He's becoming more moderate,
00:46:46
which likely means he's gearing up to run for a higher office.
00:46:50
So I've, you know, halfway there.
00:46:52
Halfway there. Yeah, something like that.
00:46:54
All right, well, you don't know we're talking about we're
00:46:56
talking about San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan, Democrat.
00:47:00
So let's watch the story right now about that.
00:47:03
The growing crowd of people running for a California
00:47:05
governor now includes San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan.
00:47:08
The mayor Mahan made that announcement public this
00:47:11
morning. Just wrapping up the press
00:47:12
conference now answering questions, NBC Bay Area's Tom
00:47:16
Jensen is there. And Tom, I know the mayor has
00:47:18
chosen to make this announcement over the low income housing
00:47:21
community. This is where he's held some
00:47:23
events in the past, as well as with some of his now opponents.
00:47:30
That's right. Good morning.
00:47:31
Yes, the mayor just made that announcement here at the Evans
00:47:34
Lane emergency interim housing community, a project that the
00:47:38
mayor has talked about a lot. Affordable housing has been a
00:47:42
top priority for Mayor Mahan since he first took office in
00:47:45
2022 and then was re elected in 2024.
00:47:49
A former teacher and the son of a teacher and mail carrier, he
00:47:53
was introduced by a former student today.
00:47:54
Mahan has positioned himself as someone who understands the
00:47:58
struggles facing working families and he's says his wife
00:48:01
to help him bring him to this decision.
00:48:04
He said he's brought down crime and homelessness since taking
00:48:08
office and says that she convinced him that he is
00:48:11
perfectly positioned and qualified to lead the state.
00:48:15
And my wife, Sylvia, said something I almost couldn't
00:48:18
believe. She looked at me and she said, I
00:48:23
think our state needs you. And then she said something even
00:48:28
harder to hear that she was willing to sacrifice time with
00:48:33
me and our family today for a better future for us all
00:48:38
tomorrow because she believed I could help our kids, help San
00:48:43
Jose, and help California. The mayor hosted Democrat and
00:48:50
Republican candidates for governor, including here on
00:48:52
Evans Ave. at the housing community.
00:48:54
Former Congressman Katie Porter has shown strong early polling
00:48:58
in the race as a candidate. Other notable Democrats include
00:49:01
Castro Valley Congressman Eric Swalwell and billionaire
00:49:04
politician and entrepreneur and environment environmentalist Tom
00:49:08
Steyer among others, along with three Republicans.
00:49:11
So we now have 9 names in for throwing their their names in
00:49:17
for the gubernatorial race and we are still more than just a
00:49:20
little more than nine months away from the November 3rd
00:49:23
general election. We're live in San Jose.
00:49:26
Tom Jensen, NBC Bay Area News. OK, let me pull this article up
00:49:33
about Matt Mahan SO. Disappointed that that reporter
00:49:38
mentioned the general but not the primaries because you know,
00:49:41
the primaries come first and are very important.
00:49:43
Don't sleep on the primaries, guys.
00:49:45
Yeah, we always say like, people are like, why are we always
00:49:47
stuck with bad choices? Well, because you didn't show up
00:49:49
to the primary. And if you don't show up to the
00:49:51
primary, they're going to pick the candidates for you.
00:49:57
I saw in the chat that there's a debate going on right now.
00:49:59
The debates are really hard to watch.
00:50:01
I tried to watch the one. Is it the one tonight?
00:50:05
It's the one that we were looking at, Fox.
00:50:07
News 1. But didn't that start at 5:30?
00:50:09
Is that still going? I think, yeah, that was too
00:50:12
long. We'll probably clip and give our
00:50:15
thoughts on the debate. 2 1/2 hours is too long for us to but.
00:50:19
I want to hear like, I mean, we'll continue with the podcast,
00:50:22
but if you guys want to put in comments, if you're watching the
00:50:24
debate, throw in any opinions in there cuz yeah, let us know.
00:50:27
Curious. All right, he went on to say.
00:50:31
I think the state's at an inflection point, May and said
00:50:33
Wednesday while standing on the Embarcadero.
00:50:35
As mayor of a big city, one of the largest cities in the state,
00:50:37
I'm closer to the problems we face and the solutions to those
00:50:40
problems. Past three years I've been mayor
00:50:42
become a model for how we start to move the needle on issues
00:50:45
that many people thought were intractable.
00:50:50
As mayor, Man has pushed for stricter rules on unsheltered
00:50:53
homelessness, is an advocate for interim shelter sites and often
00:50:56
rails against state regulations he says stymie housing
00:50:58
production. He's considered an ally to
00:51:01
business interests and, like San Francisco's mayor, has largely
00:51:04
stayed out of national political conversations.
00:51:07
He's instead argued that his energy should be spent on
00:51:09
combating local issues. Wow, what a novel idea.
00:51:14
Way to get our attention. Wow, just talking about local
00:51:18
stuff. Who would have thought if you
00:51:20
just talk about local stuff people will like that.
00:51:22
His term in San Jose runs until 2028 after he handedly won re
00:51:26
election 2024. Now this is really the
00:51:27
interesting part why I thought he was gearing up for being
00:51:31
governor 2024. Mahan A supported Prop 36, a
00:51:36
successful ballot initiative that's stiffened, stiffened, not
00:51:39
stiffened, stiffened penalties for theft and drug crimes.
00:51:42
The measure was opposed by Newsom, creating a lasting
00:51:45
fissure between the two elected officials that for months had
00:51:47
fueled rumors that Mahan was testing the waters for a run for
00:51:50
governor. Was I one of those rumors?
00:51:53
Who knows? Last year, Mahan's critiques of
00:51:56
leadership in Sacramento intensified as he pushed back on
00:51:59
Newsome's call for a special legislative session to fight
00:52:01
Trump and called out the governor over a social media
00:52:03
tactics, among other dust UPS. Mayan said he would like to make
00:52:07
sure Prop 36 rules are implemented across the state,
00:52:10
pointing to San Diego's locality has successfully done so.
00:52:14
So you have a Democratic candidate who is positioned
00:52:19
himself as I guess a more moderate, business friendly
00:52:22
Democrat. Somebody actually just said, OK,
00:52:26
I'm back. I can't stomach another minute
00:52:28
of that debate. So Bianco did in tonight's
00:52:33
debate. OK, so now we're getting people
00:52:35
coming back. I appreciate that.
00:52:36
Thank you everyone for coming back.
00:52:37
Who checked over there and came back.
00:52:39
I just. Send you all away, I just.
00:52:42
Yeah, don't. Sorry.
00:52:45
You know. Start talking to you after this
00:52:47
No, I'm just kidding I'm. Going to get a story.
00:52:49
Don't tell people to go away from the show and leave us.
00:52:53
I didn't. I meant like those who watch the
00:52:56
debate. In the show, This is why no one
00:52:59
watches live TV anymore because it it's all just out later like
00:53:03
you know that's why I'm not worried about missing stuff
00:53:05
It'll be on YouTube tomorrow I can just watch it and take notes
00:53:08
tomorrow for. People that left, well, they'll
00:53:10
just watch us or listen to us on Spotify tomorrow.
00:53:13
Right. But you don't get the ability to
00:53:17
chat with us live because we're looking at the chat and we're
00:53:20
putting your chat on screen and we're interacting with you.
00:53:22
If you're not here live, you don't get that benefit.
00:53:26
So yeah, he positions himself more as a moderate Democrat,
00:53:29
business friendly favor of Prop 36.
00:53:34
That was the big thing. I think when he first came out
00:53:36
and vehemently supported Prop 36 and was against Newsom being
00:53:42
opposed to it. I was like, interesting, Why is
00:53:44
he coming out and saying this? Maybe because it makes sense,
00:53:47
like we actually need Prop 36, but also I think because he was
00:53:52
testing the waters on what a more moderate law and order
00:53:56
business friendly Democrat would look like in California.
00:54:00
And also the fact that he pushed back on Prop 50.
00:54:03
So he's in support of Prop 36 and he pushed back on Prop 50.
00:54:06
He didn't like either of those things and he doesn't like
00:54:08
Newsome shenanigans in a circus. So people, when I had posted
00:54:13
this on social media, most of the comments I got from people
00:54:17
were he's the most rational Democrat out of all of them.
00:54:21
I was like. Seems to be.
00:54:23
He seems to be the most, yeah, he seems to be the most
00:54:27
rational, probably the most palpable.
00:54:29
I think he probably appeals to a lot of independents because he's
00:54:33
sort of right down the middle. He's enough left-leaning that a
00:54:37
lot of independents who traditionally break more for
00:54:40
Democrats here in California, he could kind of scoop them up.
00:54:46
And the state is probably looking for someone who's a
00:54:48
little bit more business friendly.
00:54:50
So I think he sees that center lane.
00:54:52
And also the truth of it is like just the rest of the Democrats
00:54:56
just are not that impressive. Like they're just not that good.
00:54:59
I think he sat back and said nobody's blowing anybody away.
00:55:03
Like the the competition is just wide open right now, especially
00:55:08
when you have people like Katie Porter who sunk her whole
00:55:13
campaign just based on this video.
00:55:15
If everyone remembers this one. State could lose.
00:55:21
You're out of my fucking shot. I wanted to tell you that That's
00:55:24
actually. Incorrect.
00:55:26
We are going to have to put a big explicit warning on this
00:55:30
episode. I apologize if everyone, if you
00:55:32
are sensitive to if you're sensitive to bad language,
00:55:36
people are probably like what happened to California
00:55:38
underground. There was so many F bombs.
00:55:44
So I that's what I think. What?
00:55:46
Why? What are your thoughts on why
00:55:48
you think he jumped into the race right now?
00:55:52
You know, after Katie Porter totally would those that came
00:55:55
out as well as that whole interview with the why, why do I
00:56:01
need Trump supporters and all that.
00:56:05
I think it was quite clear there wasn't a strong Democrat
00:56:08
frontrunner. And then the polls, I know, you
00:56:12
know, the polls just go back and forth, but it seems that with
00:56:16
the majority of the polls that are not just Republican or right
00:56:19
wing polls, Onco and Hilton are always the top 2.
00:56:23
They kind of like keep like ones on top the other second.
00:56:26
Like they, you know, but it seems like they're they're
00:56:29
always the top 2 and the top two from the primaries go to the
00:56:34
general. So I think Democrats probably
00:56:37
were kind of scrambling like what?
00:56:40
Who was it that dropped out of the race and give gave his bear
00:56:43
pin to swallow and he was like not even pulling in the race.
00:56:47
And it was like, see, yeah, like, see, I didn't remember.
00:56:50
It was so like, oh, you're. Running who wanted to to pay us
00:56:54
to wear his merch and do a post on it.
00:56:57
That's how he was getting more influence and I don't.
00:57:01
Hear via Ragosa like I know he's running and I I have my thoughts
00:57:07
about that. Like maybe he can run.
00:57:08
But after four months of communicating with his alleged
00:57:11
calms director, you guys, my gosh, that a whole other episode
00:57:17
could be created from that back and forth.
00:57:19
I think it's his team is probably why he's not really
00:57:23
like out there. You know, he has a big name, but
00:57:27
I don't see him doing anything. So anyway, all that to say, I
00:57:31
don't think the Democrats had a strong frontrunner.
00:57:34
I don't know if anyone besides his wife actually asked him to
00:57:38
step in. Mahan, I'm talking about, or if,
00:57:42
you know, some Democrats were like, hey, you're, you're in a
00:57:46
pretty good position, let's get you in.
00:57:49
I don't know, I have no idea what really happened there.
00:57:51
Doesn't matter. Like we mentioned, seems to be
00:57:55
more moderate. He does seem to get stuff done.
00:57:58
I'm not saying he's going to be a great governor or anything
00:58:01
like that, but I think he has a good chance of making it to the
00:58:05
top two in the primary, making it to the general.
00:58:08
And I had another thought. I'm losing my train of thought
00:58:14
on what that was. Well, let's look at right now
00:58:17
while you're trying to remember your thought, this was from Real
00:58:21
Clear Polling 2026 California Governor open primary.
00:58:25
So these are the standings as of right now, 15% to Bianco, 13% to
00:58:31
Hilton's. People are making a lot of hay
00:58:34
out of the fact that the top 2 are Republicans, followed by
00:58:39
Swalwell, Porter, Steyr, Becerra.
00:58:41
Man, I think is too new to be included in any of this.
00:58:46
So that gives you an idea. Porter still hanging around
00:58:49
there. Swalwell, the top, the top
00:58:52
Democrat as of right now Becerra, who's pulling at just
00:58:56
4.5%. Tom Steyer.
00:58:58
I guess billions of dollars don't translate to support and
00:59:03
fancy campaign ads. So that's that's the lay of the
00:59:08
land as of right now. But I will say this as exciting
00:59:13
as it is, it's two top Democrat or two top Republicans.
00:59:18
I will caution people that the reason that they're probably are
00:59:22
two top Republicans because there's only two Republicans
00:59:26
really in the race. Yeah, there's other like small
00:59:29
name Republicans who aren't even worth mentioning.
00:59:33
We all know who they are. Maybe you and I know who they
00:59:36
are, but other people don't know who they are care.
00:59:40
So that's really it's only two really legitimate Republicans
00:59:43
and the rest are all the Democrats.
00:59:44
So they're probably splitting the vote right now.
00:59:47
So that leaves the Republicans to suck up a lot of the votes.
00:59:50
Keep in mind the actual candidate, and I joke, it's not
00:59:56
really a candidate, the one that's winning right now is none
00:59:59
of the above with like 40% of the vote or polling support.
01:00:02
So if that shows you that people are just not really sure about
01:00:08
what's going on now that none of the above is going to move, it
01:00:13
is still very early. We're still in the very early
01:00:15
process of the gubernatorial race.
01:00:18
But it does show that like, people aren't really crazy about
01:00:22
a lot of the choices. If none of the above is the one
01:00:27
that's winning, probably not a good sign for the rest of the
01:00:29
gubernatorial candidates. So Matt Mahan, I'll be
01:00:33
interested to see where he comes in.
01:00:36
I don't think he was part of tonight's debate.
01:00:39
I imagine he'll probably be a part of future debates based on
01:00:43
what people are saying in the chat.
01:00:45
It's like maybe tonight's debate wasn't the best reason, or maybe
01:00:49
this isn't one we need to clip and talk about because there's
01:00:51
not a lot of people there. Bianco's not there, Swallow on
01:00:55
Porter. Porter I guess didn't have her
01:00:58
whiteboard in time or something so that.
01:01:02
Would have made it totally interesting.
01:01:03
Like if we actually had like those 4 Hilton, Bianco, Porter
01:01:08
Swallow, like I would have been like, Oh yeah.
01:01:11
I mean, I don't think it would have changed my opinion on any
01:01:14
of them, but I would have been all into the and it like the
01:01:19
mudslinging has kind of started. Like I saw a tweet by Steve
01:01:22
Hilton of Sheriff Bianco took the knee for BLM and then lied
01:01:27
about it. He doesn't he shouldn't run this
01:01:29
state kind of thing. And which that was my thought.
01:01:32
Matt Mahan, while he was pro Prop 36 against Prop 50, he
01:01:40
there was a tweet that said that he came out and said that he
01:01:42
thinks that Newsom has done an amazing job of running the
01:01:45
state. So there is that, like, OK, he
01:01:48
might be more moderate, but he still thinks that Newsom did a
01:01:51
good job and that's concerning. Yeah, he'd still toe in the
01:01:54
party line, so that is concerning you're.
01:01:57
Working for that Newsom endorsement I guess.
01:02:01
Yeah, I don't even know how valuable A Newsom endorsement
01:02:04
is. If you're running as a Democrat.
01:02:06
At this point, I'd want a clean break.
01:02:09
If people are curious why the state of the race is like this,
01:02:14
well, Gavin Newsom's turned out, so he's not running.
01:02:17
So 8 years we haven't had a open race.
01:02:20
And I guess even when Newsom ran in 2018, it was pretty pretty
01:02:25
much it was going to be Newsome. I think we all knew it was going
01:02:27
to be Newsome that like Via Ragosa was running again.
01:02:30
He's like the perennial runner for everything.
01:02:33
There were some other people running, but we all kind of knew
01:02:36
it was going to be Newsome at the end of the day.
01:02:38
So we haven't had like a truly open primary with new people in
01:02:43
almost a decade. And it was like, Jerry Brown
01:02:47
ran. I got Jerry Brown said, served 2
01:02:50
terms. And then my gosh, how far are we
01:02:53
going back? Like, Jerry Brown was basically
01:02:55
the presumptive nominee, right? After Schwarzenegger.
01:03:00
Jerry Brown was right after Schwarzenegger.
01:03:02
So it was Schwarzenegger, Jerry Brown for two terms and now
01:03:04
Newsom for two terms. We haven't had a truly open
01:03:07
debate for almost probably over 20 years.
01:03:11
Like that's kind of crazy. I think is like it's been 2
01:03:13
decades. We haven't had like a truly open
01:03:16
gubernatorial. It's kind of been like the
01:03:18
anointed royal families just kind of kept taking over outside
01:03:21
of Schwarzenegger who got in there.
01:03:25
But it's a, it's interesting to see all these Democrats fight
01:03:28
amongst each other. Eric Swalwell, I don't even know
01:03:30
if he legally even lives here. I think there's a court filing.
01:03:33
They're going to determine whether he can even run.
01:03:35
Katie Porter, who we show that video.
01:03:37
She's not very nice to her employees.
01:03:40
I don't know if people are fine with supporting an abusive boss.
01:03:45
Maybe they can come up with pins that say abusive bosses for
01:03:48
Katie Porter or something like that.
01:03:50
Tom Steyer, A billionaire who hates billionaires.
01:03:53
Sell those. That would be funny.
01:03:55
Yeah, we can be like abusive bosses for Porter 2026, they're
01:04:00
still. Our ideas?
01:04:02
Don't steal our ideas. Copyrights right now.
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Time time stamp this Pizzero's in the middle of a campaign
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scandal. Campaign fund scandal with
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Newsome's former chief of staff. Lot of issues.
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I don't really want to go down the rabbit hole about Steve Hill
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and the news that his name popped up in the Epstein files.
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I don't even know, like, really what that's all about.
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So yeah. I think we need to like, wait on
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the story to kind of unfold. Yeah, everyone's got their.
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The point I'm making is everyone's got their blemishes,
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which is probably why no one's running away with this.
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Like people have said in the chat, Bianco Neil to BLM,
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whatever that story is, whether it was tricked into it or
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something like that, everyone seems to be coming with their
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their blemishes and that's why no one's running away with it.
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Maybe that's why Matt Mahan jumped in because he's like, all
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these candidates have big flaws that I can exploit.
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And everyone is jumping on Steve Hilton right now with the whole
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Epstein things. Xavier Becerra jumped all over
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Steve Hilton about the Epstein stuff.
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But for those of you don't know, the story is, as I understand
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it, Hilton was mentioned because somebody wanted to set up or
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somebody of Epstein wanted to set up a meet up with David
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Cameron, who's Hilton worked for.
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And that was basically it. Like Hilton didn't reach out to
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Epstein. It was like he was mentioned in
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these sort of stories. So, all right, anything else on
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Matt Mayhem before we finish up for the night?
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Let's see if there's any other comments.
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I just thought it was funny that he was reading his speech.
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And I don't have a problem with him reading his speech, but he
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needed to read the story of his wife telling him he should run
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and why? Like, I was like, you don't
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remember that story as it unfolded in your actual life.
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You need to read it. Yeah, it's like.
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And then my wife said to me, hold on.
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Lost my place, she said. Honey, I think.
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Wait, what? What did you say to Noah?
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That's not really how it went. You all watched it, but that's
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how it felt. And we got our first negative
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comment of the night. Somebody said we're boring.
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I'm sorry, Steven, I'm sorry we're boring you.
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Well, the great thing about a free country is the great thing
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about a free country and YouTube is you don't have to be here.
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So all right, thank you everyone for tuning in for another
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episode. We'll be back live as always.
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Steve, thanks for tuning in. You, even you, Steve, who
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thought we were born. Thank you for the view and the
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comment you can get. All the engagement helps.
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All of it helps in the algorithm.
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That's all I got to say. So thanks, Steve.
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All right, we're going to be back next week.
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We have a guest. We have a state senator coming
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up next week, right? Marie Alvarado Hill.
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Yes, she's coming on. So we have another guest.
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We're going to have a ton of guests in 2026.
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I feel like we got a ton of people who are going to come on.
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We are working on some big names.
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Not going to say who, but we are working on some names.
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Emails have been put out, feelers have been put out.
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So we're working on it. So but we don't want to put the
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car before the hort cart before the horse.
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See, I can't even talk anymore. Maybe Steve's right.
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Maybe we're maybe we're we're boring.
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Somebody said not boring for us. Oh, thank you, Leslie.
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Thank you, Leslie. Thank you everyone.
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We'll see you on the next one. Make sure as always, best thing
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